@@jackschofield5475 A song by an Artist named Jim Croce in 1973 called "You Don't mess around with Jim" The chorus goes You don't tug on Superman's Cape You don't Spit into the wind You don't pull the mask off the old Lone Ranger and You don't mess around with Jim.
I think juggernaut meant, Hyperion was talking out loud to himself about something he wants to do spitting in(to) the wind To be doing something totally pointless, fruitless, or futile; to be wasting one's time doing something that will not or cannot come to pass.
@@davidhatcher7016 Well! I'm not an avid Man-Thing reader, but he's done a lot of cameos, so I've seen him in action a couple times. I believe that our mystical Florida Man is an empath: he can sense the emotions of others as if they were his own - and fear is his least favourite. Whenever someone nearby starts getting scared, he responds by lashing out at the source of the fear, corroding them with his weird magicks.
So I reread this maybe 5 times or so... and I'm finally understanding something. Hyperion wasn't begging for them to stop beating him... though sad to have him begging for any kind of mercy, still, he wasn't begging for them to stop beating on him, he was begging because of the Argonite entering his spinal column. its one thing to have pain, it's another for it to be at your spine! That's like pain times 10 or maybe 20 from my anatomy and physiology class.
The power levels/strength of super heroes/villains in comics have always been depicted very inconsistently. The writers keep on being inconsistent again and again and the fans keep on arguing/trolling one another regarding who is more/less powerful than whom.
so true. but this fantasy world is more important than reality to fan boys . BTW hulk is real, I saw him smashing several cars in time square last week.
Yes, silly us for caring about consistency. "They fucked up before, so its ok to keep fucking up" What a wonderful motto. That doesn't take stakes from the story at all.
most of you guys are right juggernaut can take a god-awful amount of punishment. he's very durable even without the force field. you guys have to realize Hyperion is Marvel Comics version of Superman. he punched Jugs in his head with out his helmet and hurt his hand. that by itself is Amazing & show's you how durable and strong Juggernaut really is.
lot of dumb comments. "Juggernaut is immune to physical damage". If Hulk was hitting him they wouldn't be saying that. Just don't like the Superman clone doing it.
@@germanpenn he cant really be hurt physically but Odin can because of the Odin force which is a magic energy source and juggernaut is weak to magic and sorcery
To clarify, in this run, Juggernaut was depowered by Cyttotak. It happened after the Marvel event Fear Itself, where the Juggernaut was enhanced by a magic hammer from the Serpent (Odin's brother). For having served another entity, the Juggernaut was depowered by Cyttorak. Having said this, he still put a good fight to Hyperion. Edit: I was wrong. Although the Juggernaut was depowered by Cyttorak, it was because the Uni Power had possessed the Juggernaut, turning him momentarily in Captain Universe. By Fear Itself, the Juggernaut was already depowered.
actually, was right before Fear Itself. He was depowered because he used the Uni-power to do good. After Fear Itself, he was no longer Juggernaut. Colossus was.
This is bollocks. NOTHING can harm the Juggernaut. That's his whole power, there is NO physical force that can hurt him, PERIOD. Mental powers, or some magical effects can, but there is no physical power that can harm him. So, Hyperion breaking his leg, or bruising his face... can't happen. Whoever wrote this doesn't know the characters.
I've been reading about the Juggernaut since he first appeared in comics. Any time he's been disabled by physical means, it's been because of something limiting his powers, or because the writers don't know any better.
STNeish “because the writer” wow, okay First of all you can’t even accept inconsistencies And second there’s plenty of panel that showing juggy have limit (even cytorrak itsefl) You can easily find veteran comics through comicvine and youtube Unless you’re just bigot troll who wondering through cyber.
giveagoodsong Cain was always strong an old comic even shows plain human Cain choking hulk out in the ocean. As much as I hate myself for even bringing this comic up cause its fucking terrible but during the xmen fight with hulk he was regular Cain and you see he's just as big as hulk was.
Actually there is beings/artifects such as the power stone,living tribunal,hotu,one above all powerfull enough to harm juggernaut with physical attacks at his full power even kill him with a single punch
@@tinogonzalez5275 Obviously yes, back in the 90s there was a comic where Cain Marko's mind was controlled by the evil essence of a universe called Trion, the entity tapped into "the full power" of the Cyttorak Gem, which is just 1/8 of Cyttorak's physical aspect.... that is to say a fraction of a limitless universe compressed into an object. And with that power Juggernaut was able first of all, punch a hole through reality with physical force, that feat alone is greater than World Breaker Hulk, why would you ask? well the only event able to rip a hole through space-time is the singularity inside a black hole, how do black holes form? When a start at least 20 times the mass of the sun explodes... So... destroying a planet doesn't even compare to that. But it doesn't end there, Juggernaut was able to shatter dimensional barriers to escape the multiverse and get into the extra-dimensional plane where the Trion Universe was, and then he almost destroyed the entirety of that Universe when Cain Marko snapped out of the evil essence mind control releasing a burst of energy that ripped a giant hole in the space-continuum of that reality growing exponentially big, and the only reason that universe didn't die, was because the X-Men managed to heal the damage by channeling magical energies.
Exactly. That's why DC fans thinks Juggernaut isn't so powerful. People usually don't know Juggernaut very well or don't know how his powers works or even don't read the story to understand the situation. When Juggernaut is 100% he can activate his force field and almost literally nothing can hurt him. He can make powerful attacks that almost literally nothing and no one can stop them. So, I never saw he lost a fight when he is 100%, unless when people use telepathy (since telepathy is his weakness) or use his own strength against him to banish him from the place of the fight.
Yeah, his powers derive from the omnipotent Cyttorak, a God type entity whose power are even used by other seemily God like entities, Dormammu, Zom, and the Vishanti.
musiq002003 Anyone can correct me but as a Tool of Destruction and Cytorrak the Juggernaut must be dedicated to destroying. Wanting to reform and be a Tool for good Cain Marko lost a portion of his power. They were really good comics.
Even Cyttorak mentioned that if Juggernaut completely obeys him then he will eventually get more powerful he will literally become The Unstoppable Juggernaut fr though... Writers just need Juggy always and makes him weaker or dumb in fights.
Hyperion is insanely strong ive never seen anyone rarley be able to do this much damge to juggernaut to almost bully him but then juggernaut is also insanely strong for fighting as hard as he did actually juggernaut wasnt defeated here either juggernaut gave the last hard hits fight wasnt finished but who knows how long juggernaut can keep going with someone like Hyperion seems like juggernauts can go on forever. Hyperion actually kicked him hard enough to break his leg he had him bruised he still got up and continued to fight.
They only won cause Ghost got the controller to release the Argonite which is Hyperion's kryptonite into his body and they beat the shit out of him then lol this is King Hyperion too who went through multiple realities killing avengers and heroes of each reality and took on and beat two other Hyperions at once this Hyperion was a beast.
@@ragnarokpxn5196 KingHyperion is fodder he only killed weaker alternate versions of hero’s when he actually faces hero’s from this universe he isn’t that strong. He got absolutely destroyed by Blue Marvel and in this video was barely winning against a weakened Juggernaut
Hyperion did a lot of damage to Juggernaut and he didn't recover right away (usually instantaneous but longer for select injuries). Onslaught did worse to Juggy..
The writer decides who'd win, different writer, different winner. Unless there's an editorial mandate to stick with power levels you could easily see "Black Widow kills the marvel universe." Power level inconsistencies is why I stopped collecting comics.
Not a big fan of Juggernaut, but this is bs. That guy can best Hulk, Thor and other Marvel powerhouses with ease. He is virtualy invulnerable to *any* form of physical harm.
Juggernaught is suppose to be resistant to any physical attack. I wish the comic book writers remembered that. Some people punch him and nothing happens others do and hurt him. I do not know what is misunderstood with the term INVULNERABLE TO X.
Exactly. That's why DC fans thinks Juggernaut isn't so powerful. People usually don't know Juggernaut very well or don't know how his powers works or even don't read the story to understand the situation. When Juggernaut is 100% he can activate his force field and almost literally nothing can hurt him. He can make powerful attacks that almost literally nothing and no one can stop them. So, I never saw he lost a fight when he is 100%, unless when people use telepathy (since telepathy is his weakness) or use his own strength against him to banish him from the place of the fight.
This Juggernaut is powered by a weaker Cyttorak from another universe, and was continuously getting weaker the power up was temporary. No where near as strong as standard Juggernaut.
Did the juggernaut suddenly lose most of his power? Nothing can stop the juggernaut, its not just a running thing, that's a stupid notion from a bad X-Men movie. The jugermaut has gone toe to toe with thor and the hulk, even shrugged off direct hits from thors hammer. What the hall has happened with todays comic writers? Its like they have never read marvel comics ever. The juggernaut is invulnerable to physical force, heat, energy, and hulk level strength. This was just terrible writing.
TheBrismoore he's depowered since he used the uni force in a spiderman comic and when he was chosen to be a serpent hammer wielder by odins brother. Cyttarak wasn't happy so he took his power and gave it to colossus so this is just cain Marko and no the suit isn't cyttaraks it's his. If you need some more explaining Cain Marko without the gem has even choked out hulk without his armor just plain human Cain.
I think jugs was holding back i mean if his head his hard enough that when hyperion punches 3 times his hand breaks i think a jug who wanted to kill him would kill him
This was Hyperion from the Exiles comics. Not the 616 version. In his universe he killed all the super being on Earth by himself, then did it to another universe after he got recruited. I’m glad he got what was coming to him.
Tank Elite No juggernaut has never fought Gladiator in the comics. And cartoons just like comic book movies is not the same as comic because as has been stated that is a different Earth. Like this fight happens in the main marvel universe which is earth 616
You are absolutely right! However a fully power juggernaut couldn’t be Gladiator! Even though Thanos was weak G gave him the business! I don’t think Juggernaut would had lasted against a weak Thanos!
Lol, you can tell that this was published in 2011. Super skimpy female superhero costumes and the use of words like mongoloid would not fly in the current comic book world.
people overreacting to juggernaut. he held his own with no helmet and for having no powers. this is hyperion for godsakes, hes like fuckin sentry and blue marvel.
Juggs is honestly a stupidly overpowered character. Who thought "gee, let's make a character that honestly can't be stopped, or hurt and let's basically give him zero weaknesses"? What's even the point of having him in the comics if he's so ridiculously over powered?
Good to see they didn’t Nerf the juggernaut in this one. Poor guy is always getting the shaft. Based off of feats he’s probably the most invulnerable being on earth
If anyone thinks Hyperion can beat Juggernaut they do not understand one thing: Juggernaut can not be hurt physically. Magically or through telekinesis. But by pure physical damage no!
im guessing the guy he was fighting was strong enough to brake it down/go threw it much like the hulk has 1 shotted juggs before or in wwh when we can see the hulk punching jugss and his helmet crushes in.
how do you know?it seem like an excuse jugg fans use when he gets his ass kicked, was Hyperion full power?we never seem a full power hulk because there is no limit and like i said we can see the hulk smashing in a full powered juggs helmet that supposed to be indestructible an immune to physical damage. should be proof that some people can cut threw or are strong enough to "over power" juggs force field and inflect physical damage to him. no clue weather "solo power" or "Gama power" like the hulk has is the reason or its just pure strength either way it happens. remember the power of juggs is limited its limited by who ever empowers him.
mmeatheaddd I know cause around this time I was buying the comics. I just remember Cain being so weak he was put on as a member of the Thunderbolts. Also around this time Collossus was getting the power of the Juggernaut. Cain Marko went to help his brother by trying to fight World War Hulk and immediately got destroyed by the Hulk which confused him, he even said somethings not right. Cyttorak told Cain that he would only make him full power again if he goes back to his evil ways. That’s when he re-emerge as full power Juggernaut vs World War Hulk and was doing well. I got a feeling no matter how much I try to explain this to you, you won’t believe it. Lol
yea, jugs dosnt even look like this anymore. hes a silver metallic looking being now with all his weakness removed. At this point in the comics he wasn't even technically "the juggernaut".. Cyttorak had taken his full power.
All these butthurt fanboys saying that Juggernaut wasnt at full power, thats the point of the Juggernaut! He is nothing without Cyttorak, a magical entity! Full power Juggernaut can only occur in some instances, Cain Marko, is just a normal being, Juggernaut is the avatar, so yeah, he got beat up right now and there was nothing he could do about it. Many people argue who the stronger of the two between the Hulk and the Juggernaut, i would say hands down the Hulk, and with perfect reasoning if we are to assume both of their most powerful forms.
It's sad how many commenting don't grasp how reduced Cain was at this time. WTF do you think he'd even BE on the Thunderbolts if he weren't reduced enough to be roped into it?
Its just so hard to say whos tougher when it comes to juggernaut .hyperion. Hurt his hand in one of the punches he vave to juggernaut but not all of them.its hard anything related to juggernaut cause he has that hax of being impervious to pain or unstoppable but at the same time he does get hurt in a way with really strong people not enough. I seen a crossover comic of superman punching juggernaut supposedly one shotting juggernaut but it was alittle weird i have yet to see juggernaut actually be put down in a punching fight and not just being removed in a different way cause they cant beat him in a fist fight
@@nathanalexandre9043 "I appear to have enraged the Juggernaut", "I don't give a toss". Sounds frumpy in my head. All we needed was a "pip pip" or "cheerio" and it would have been perfect.
Ugh Hyperion is literally everything I can’t stand about Superman! He’s supposed to be this indestructible being who can never be stopped by anyone or anything, until of course he’s weakened by some Space Rock (And even without the Argonite Juggernaut still managed landing some good punches on him). Everyone’s supposed to love him, and see him as the greatest hero because nothing can ever stop him, when literally every character in the Marvel Universe is better than him and beats his Superman wanna be ass into the GROUND! He deserves to lay there in defeat, crying & moaning like the pathetic bitch he is, I hate him so much and I’m so glad he lost!
@@natesmashed He had hair when he was introduced as a character but quickly changed to the bald look.i guess to distinguish him from the other Hyperions he would later fight.
Ryan Reynolds is a fake marvel fan and just watched the movies and didn't read the comics or at least watch the 90's cartoon. how the hell did juggernaut gat captured in deadpool 2 and have power dampening collar device stop him from rampaging since it only stops mutant.powers? juggernaut is not a mutant. and we have a scene with deadpool saying he is juggernauts favorite fan claiming he read the comics. Ryan Reynolds is a fake marvel fan.
Well it is both ways really, cyttorak bestows his power, "from this place goes a human juggernaut" and so on.. cain marko was depowered for some time and Colossus was given the powers of juggernaut by cyttorak. Juggernaut(cain marko) got them back in xmen #19.. just google colossus juggernaut or something like that and you will find all kinds of info on it
Not heroes, that's the point. Thunderbolts is the Marvel version of the Suicide Squad. All villains, so fighting fair really isn't in the playbook. Especially not when dealing with someone that powerful that could take any of them one-on-one in the first place.
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i like it when magneto and juggernaut are good guys
Juggernaut's god halves his strength an durability when he does good
@@tnbn55 well everybody has standars even evil gods.
"I spit in the wind too." I wonder how many comic book fans not in their 50s actually got that reference.
Where is yeh reference from?
@@jackschofield5475 A song by an Artist named Jim Croce in 1973 called "You Don't mess around with Jim" The chorus goes
You don't tug on Superman's Cape
You don't Spit into the wind
You don't pull the mask off the old Lone Ranger
and You don't mess around with Jim.
@@weekendwarrior8385 Duh duh dee dee dee deety dee dee dee
I guess he pulls on Supermans cape too. Which is a reference of Hyperion being the Marvels version of Superman
I think juggernaut meant, Hyperion was talking out loud to himself about something he wants to do
spitting in(to) the wind
To be doing something totally pointless, fruitless, or futile; to be wasting one's time doing something that will not or cannot come to pass.
Those who know fear......burn at the touch of...THE MAN-THING!
Why?
They made Juggernaut way to weak in this fight and in the end they made Hyperion look like a bitch
He absolutely is one
@@davidhatcher7016 Well! I'm not an avid Man-Thing reader, but he's done a lot of cameos, so I've seen him in action a couple times.
I believe that our mystical Florida Man is an empath: he can sense the emotions of others as if they were his own - and fear is his least favourite. Whenever someone nearby starts getting scared, he responds by lashing out at the source of the fear, corroding them with his weird magicks.
So I reread this maybe 5 times or so... and I'm finally understanding something. Hyperion wasn't begging for them to stop beating him... though sad to have him begging for any kind of mercy, still, he wasn't begging for them to stop beating on him, he was begging because of the Argonite entering his spinal column. its one thing to have pain, it's another for it to be at your spine! That's like pain times 10 or maybe 20 from my anatomy and physiology class.
he literrally says "it hurts," right after he asks them to stop it. It's not cause some pseudosocial reason, its because of pain.
The power levels/strength of super heroes/villains in comics have always been depicted very inconsistently. The writers keep on being inconsistent again and again and the fans keep on arguing/trolling one another regarding who is more/less powerful than whom.
True, they tend to forget that this fiction who only exist to entertain.
so true. but this fantasy world is more important than reality to fan boys . BTW hulk is real, I saw him smashing several cars in time square last week.
Yes, silly us for caring about consistency.
"They fucked up before, so its ok to keep fucking up"
What a wonderful motto. That doesn't take stakes from the story at all.
@@denkerbosu3551 agreed.
Why is that a problem?
I knew Hyperion was going to whoop juggernauts ass
most of you guys are right juggernaut can take a god-awful amount of punishment. he's very durable even without the force field. you guys have to realize Hyperion is Marvel Comics version of Superman. he punched Jugs in his head with out his helmet and hurt his hand. that by itself is Amazing & show's you how durable and strong Juggernaut really is.
lot of dumb comments. "Juggernaut is immune to physical damage". If Hulk was hitting him they wouldn't be saying that. Just don't like the Superman clone doing it.
@@RickySpanish12344 I couldn't agree more. Odin and many many other high-tier characters would physically wreck Juggs.
@@germanpenn he cant really be hurt physically but Odin can because of the Odin force which is a magic energy source and juggernaut is weak to magic and sorcery
@@RickySpanish12344 you need magic to fuck with the juggernaut or something close or similar to his power.
Juggernaut wasn't at full power here in this fight either though. Cyttorak wasn't happy with him during this time and wasn't amping him as before.
Hyperion got his ass beat 😂
Ik bro couldn't go toe to toe wit jugg, so he had to spam Lazer
While I am a minor Juggernaut fan I have to say Juggernaut, while not serving Cyttorak did have dem hands.
"Dontchu know who eyy am?"
*"IMM THE JUGGERNAUT, BITCHH!"*
Havent bought a comic in over 25yr. That was an awesome story line. Thank you
To clarify, in this run, Juggernaut was depowered by Cyttotak. It happened after the Marvel event Fear Itself, where the Juggernaut was enhanced by a magic hammer from the Serpent (Odin's brother).
For having served another entity, the Juggernaut was depowered by Cyttorak.
Having said this, he still put a good fight to Hyperion.
Edit: I was wrong. Although the Juggernaut was depowered by Cyttorak, it was because the Uni Power had possessed the Juggernaut, turning him momentarily in Captain Universe.
By Fear Itself, the Juggernaut was already depowered.
Alemag Juggernaut has the durability and strength like Hulk
actually, was right before Fear Itself. He was depowered because he used the Uni-power to do good. After Fear Itself, he was no longer Juggernaut. Colossus was.
Not enhanced, he was taken over by the power of Cul and enslaved by the hammer.
I would've imagine if he hadn't depowered him, that would give Hyperion a challenge against the Juggernaut.
@@juliofranciscogomezstoppel1860 you are completely right. I stand corrected.
They make Hyperion look too overpowered but juggernaut could of dealt a lot better
This is a stronger version of Hyperion his name is King Hyperion and this Juggernaut was weakened
I love evil Hyperion, and I also love poetic justice...great ending
it sdoesn't end there. hyperion got resurrected by the "burn" because he is fuggin hyperion !
Awesome! Juggernaut should’ve been able to fight him without help though. Thanks for sharing these!
I believe Juggernaut was severely depowered in this which is why he breaks easy and has slow regeneration.
This is bollocks. NOTHING can harm the Juggernaut. That's his whole power, there is NO physical force that can hurt him, PERIOD. Mental powers, or some magical effects can, but there is no physical power that can harm him. So, Hyperion breaking his leg, or bruising his face... can't happen. Whoever wrote this doesn't know the characters.
Magic affects Juggernaut.
He was nerfed here for standing up to Cytorrak. 100% power Juggy would wreck Hyperion.
Nothing can hurt him? Do you read all comic that have juggy in its panels??
I've been reading about the Juggernaut since he first appeared in comics. Any time he's been disabled by physical means, it's been because of something limiting his powers, or because the writers don't know any better.
STNeish “because the writer” wow, okay
First of all you can’t even accept inconsistencies
And second there’s plenty of panel that showing juggy have limit (even cytorrak itsefl)
You can easily find veteran comics through comicvine and youtube
Unless you’re just bigot troll who wondering through cyber.
Cain Marko must be operating on 0.31% of Cyttorrak’s power. Hyperion wouldn’t stand a chance against him.
Not only would the juggernaut be invincible but that invincibility Extens to his costume which is a Intercal part of his power.
giveagoodsong Cain was always strong an old comic even shows plain human Cain choking hulk out in the ocean. As much as I hate myself for even bringing this comic up cause its fucking terrible but during the xmen fight with hulk he was regular Cain and you see he's just as big as hulk was.
Actually there is beings/artifects such as the power stone,living tribunal,hotu,one above all powerfull enough to harm juggernaut with physical attacks at his full power even kill him with a single punch
So that means juggernaut using all of cyttorraks power could beat world breaker hulk or hulk in control all raged out?
@@tinogonzalez5275 Obviously yes, back in the 90s there was a comic where Cain Marko's mind was controlled by the evil essence of a universe called Trion, the entity tapped into "the full power" of the Cyttorak Gem, which is just 1/8 of Cyttorak's physical aspect.... that is to say a fraction of a limitless universe compressed into an object. And with that power Juggernaut was able first of all, punch a hole through reality with physical force, that feat alone is greater than World Breaker Hulk, why would you ask? well the only event able to rip a hole through space-time is the singularity inside a black hole, how do black holes form? When a start at least 20 times the mass of the sun explodes... So... destroying a planet doesn't even compare to that. But it doesn't end there, Juggernaut was able to shatter dimensional barriers to escape the multiverse and get into the extra-dimensional plane where the Trion Universe was, and then he almost destroyed the entirety of that Universe when Cain Marko snapped out of the evil essence mind control releasing a burst of energy that ripped a giant hole in the space-continuum of that reality growing exponentially big, and the only reason that universe didn't die, was because the X-Men managed to heal the damage by channeling magical energies.
Hyperion was always a bit of a jerk in this iteration. Nice to see him get his comeuppance.
Because this was an alternate Hyperion who was evil.
If only juggernaut was at full power
It takes sky father level or higher to beat the strongest version of the juggernaut.They don't write him that way for a reason.
Exactly. That's why DC fans thinks Juggernaut isn't so powerful. People usually don't know Juggernaut very well or don't know how his powers works or even don't read the story to understand the situation. When Juggernaut is 100% he can activate his force field and almost literally nothing can hurt him. He can make powerful attacks that almost literally nothing and no one can stop them. So, I never saw he lost a fight when he is 100%, unless when people use telepathy (since telepathy is his weakness) or use his own strength against him to banish him from the place of the fight.
Yeah, his powers derive from the omnipotent Cyttorak, a God type entity whose power are even used by other seemily God like entities, Dormammu, Zom, and the Vishanti.
Why isn’t he a full power
musiq002003 Anyone can correct me but as a Tool of Destruction and Cytorrak the Juggernaut must be dedicated to destroying. Wanting to reform and be a Tool for good Cain Marko lost a portion of his power. They were really good comics.
Months later a comic comes out and sais juggernaut hasn't been going all out for a while and I'm glad it did.
I find it hard to believe that someone as powerful as the Juggernaut has no neck.
Wow, that was awesome.
So satisfying to see hyperion get his ass kicked
Wow, guess I'm going to pick up this comic. Didn't know man-thing was a member of the team!
Even Cyttorak mentioned that if Juggernaut completely obeys him then he will eventually get more powerful he will literally become The Unstoppable Juggernaut fr though... Writers just need Juggy always and makes him weaker or dumb in fights.
his Achilles' heel
Did man-thing just kill Hyperion?
Hyperion was weakened and showed fear lol
Hyperion is insanely strong ive never seen anyone rarley be able to do this much damge to juggernaut to almost bully him but then juggernaut is also insanely strong for fighting as hard as he did actually juggernaut wasnt defeated here either juggernaut gave the last hard hits fight wasnt finished but who knows how long juggernaut can keep going with someone like Hyperion seems like juggernauts can go on forever. Hyperion actually kicked him hard enough to break his leg he had him bruised he still got up and continued to fight.
They only won cause Ghost got the controller to release the Argonite which is Hyperion's kryptonite into his body and they beat the shit out of him then lol this is King Hyperion too who went through multiple realities killing avengers and heroes of each reality and took on and beat two other Hyperions at once this Hyperion was a beast.
@@ragnarokpxn5196 KingHyperion is fodder he only killed weaker alternate versions of hero’s when he actually faces hero’s from this universe he isn’t that strong. He got absolutely destroyed by Blue Marvel and in this video was barely winning against a weakened Juggernaut
Hyperion did a lot of damage to Juggernaut and he didn't recover right away (usually instantaneous but longer for select injuries). Onslaught did worse to Juggy..
The writer decides who'd win, different writer, different winner. Unless there's an editorial mandate to stick with power levels you could easily see "Black Widow kills the marvel universe." Power level inconsistencies is why I stopped collecting comics.
Not a big fan of Juggernaut, but this is bs. That guy can best Hulk, Thor and other Marvel powerhouses with ease. He is virtualy invulnerable to *any* form of physical harm.
Hyperion can best Hulk and Thor.
Except Argonite, what a bitch!
Lol juggernaut played him.
Hyperion hurt his own hand
Yeah
the power levels/strengths in comics are based on the writers favoritism
Juggernaught is suppose to be resistant to any physical attack. I wish the comic book writers remembered that. Some people punch him and nothing happens others do and hurt him. I do not know what is misunderstood with the term INVULNERABLE TO X.
Mark Hovsepian he’s not at full power
Just seems when ever Juggs attacks the big boys he is ALWAYS overpowered. I guess the Bands of Cytorak wernt on that day lol.
Mark Hovsepian remember Collosus became the Juggernaut around this time.
cain wasn't really the juggernaut at this point in time, cyttorak had taken his power
Mark Hovsepian resistant=\=immune! Hyperion has sufficient strength to hurt him! Just saying.
Sad people still thank juggernaut wasn't at full power but assumed Hyperion was lol
Was he not? Im just curious not trying to argue.
He went full power when he went up against World War Hulk. Wasn’t full power with the Thunderbolts.
Exactly. That's why DC fans thinks Juggernaut isn't so powerful. People usually don't know Juggernaut very well or don't know how his powers works or even don't read the story to understand the situation. When Juggernaut is 100% he can activate his force field and almost literally nothing can hurt him. He can make powerful attacks that almost literally nothing and no one can stop them. So, I never saw he lost a fight when he is 100%, unless when people use telepathy (since telepathy is his weakness) or use his own strength against him to banish him from the place of the fight.
This Juggernaut is powered by a weaker Cyttorak from another universe, and was continuously getting weaker the power up was temporary. No where near as strong as standard Juggernaut.
venom vs juggernaut who wins?
Did the juggernaut suddenly lose most of his power? Nothing can stop the juggernaut, its not just a running thing, that's a stupid notion from a bad X-Men movie. The jugermaut has gone toe to toe with thor and the hulk, even shrugged off direct hits from thors hammer. What the hall has happened with todays comic writers? Its like they have never read marvel comics ever. The juggernaut is invulnerable to physical force, heat, energy, and hulk level strength. This was just terrible writing.
TheBrismoore he's depowered since he used the uni force in a spiderman comic and when he was chosen to be a serpent hammer wielder by odins brother. Cyttarak wasn't happy so he took his power and gave it to colossus so this is just cain Marko and no the suit isn't cyttaraks it's his. If you need some more explaining Cain Marko without the gem has even choked out hulk without his armor just plain human Cain.
the writers depower him till they came out with new comic book called Amazing X men #19 and in this comic hes like op now
TheBrismoore
Hyperion was taking easy on him. Cry some more when you think about that.
I think jugs was holding back i mean if his head his hard enough that when hyperion punches 3 times his hand breaks i think a jug who wanted to kill him would kill him
How was it possible to put this device on the Juggernaut? If he has a force field and is still invulnerable? 🤔
Hyperion deserves a live action movie!
If I'm correct then this is king Hyperion from Exiles right?
@Lord Jay
Yes this is King Hyperion.
It seems Juggernaut gets OP or NERFed as a single comic story requires...
I hate it
I'm so glad there is no more hyperion Blue Marvel ended that BASTARD
How did he die?
Actually he's still kicking
Nah he gone
No, that's how he ended up on The Thunderbolts team. He was defeated and then imprisoned.
@@adamblackfoot46 Doubtful. He regenerated from being seemingly dead before. All he needs is sunlight.
praise to juggernaut he survived against the marvel's superman and make him bleed something the hulk couldn't accomplish himself
This was Hyperion from the Exiles comics. Not the 616 version. In his universe he killed all the super being on Earth by himself, then did it to another universe after he got recruited. I’m glad he got what was coming to him.
Juggernaut couldn’t beat Gladiator at full power and Hyperion has the same powers
Tank Elite cartoons don't count
How U figure comic books and cartoons are pretty much the same!
Besides Gladiator best Juggernaut in the comics as well look it up
Tank Elite No juggernaut has never fought Gladiator in the comics. And cartoons just like comic book movies is not the same as comic because as has been stated that is a different Earth. Like this fight happens in the main marvel universe which is earth 616
You are absolutely right! However a fully power juggernaut couldn’t be Gladiator! Even though Thanos was weak G gave him the business! I don’t think Juggernaut would had lasted against a weak Thanos!
Evil Hyperion...not the real one.
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That's a crappily drawn comic
Yup
Tom Martin I agree
Lol, you can tell that this was published in 2011. Super skimpy female superhero costumes and the use of words like mongoloid would not fly in the current comic book world.
people overreacting to juggernaut. he held his own with no helmet and for having no powers. this is hyperion for godsakes, hes like fuckin sentry and blue marvel.
Juggs is honestly a stupidly overpowered character. Who thought "gee, let's make a character that honestly can't be stopped, or hurt and let's basically give him zero weaknesses"? What's even the point of having him in the comics if he's so ridiculously over powered?
These debates because fans don't like the outcomes of certain fights are HILARIOUS.
Good to see they didn’t Nerf the juggernaut in this one. Poor guy is always getting the shaft. Based off of feats he’s probably the most invulnerable being on earth
If anyone thinks Hyperion can beat Juggernaut they do not understand one thing: Juggernaut can not be hurt physically. Magically or through telekinesis. But by pure physical damage no!
Wait, so Im confused. I am not that familiar with comics in general but I thought Juggernaut was a bad guy. He seemed kind of like a good guy here.
Make this comic a real movie. MCU & Sony take my money. Hire also that Netflix luke cage cast
Well what happened to Juggernaut's force-field? Anyway, thanks again Banner.
im guessing the guy he was fighting was strong enough to brake it down/go threw it
much like the hulk has 1 shotted juggs before or in wwh when we can see the hulk punching jugss and his helmet crushes in.
This isn’t full power Juggernaut
how do you know?it seem like an excuse jugg fans use when he gets his ass kicked, was Hyperion full power?we never seem a full power hulk because there is no limit and like i said we can see the hulk smashing in a full powered juggs helmet that supposed to be indestructible an immune to physical damage. should be proof that some people can cut threw or are strong enough to "over power" juggs force field and inflect physical damage to him. no clue weather "solo power" or "Gama power" like the hulk has is the reason or its just pure strength either way it happens. remember the power of juggs is limited its limited by who ever empowers him.
mmeatheaddd I know cause around this time I was buying the comics. I just remember Cain being so weak he was put on as a member of the Thunderbolts. Also around this time Collossus was getting the power of the Juggernaut. Cain Marko went to help his brother by trying to fight World War Hulk and immediately got destroyed by the Hulk which confused him, he even said somethings not right. Cyttorak told Cain that he would only make him full power again if he goes back to his evil ways. That’s when he re-emerge as full power Juggernaut vs World War Hulk and was doing well. I got a feeling no matter how much I try to explain this to you, you won’t believe it. Lol
yea, jugs dosnt even look like this anymore. hes a silver metallic looking being now with all his weakness removed. At this point in the comics he wasn't even technically "the juggernaut".. Cyttorak had taken his full power.
What's that music in the back, I kinda like it, it's not bad
Cool music.
I think you and me are the only ones who have commented on the music
I am beginning to think writers are confusing the Crimson BANDS of Cytorak to BANDaids.
What's brown and sounds like a bell? Dung. What's brown and shaped like a bell? Coincidence? I think not.
Vinnie Jones Juggernaut would’ve fucked this guy up.
Some people still think the Juggernaut is a mutant. smh
The Hyperion that Juggernaut fought in this comic was King Hyperion, who is arguably the most powerful incarnation of Hyperion.
Nope that wasn’t king Hyperion lol
@@FlingJuan8 yes it was
they really need to stop nerfing juggernaut
I loved Parker run on thunderbolts, and all stories he did on Marvel. So sad he go for DC.
Isn't this the king hyperion version who is extremely powerful and a weaker version of jugs?
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All these butthurt fanboys saying that Juggernaut wasnt at full power, thats the point of the Juggernaut! He is nothing without Cyttorak, a magical entity! Full power Juggernaut can only occur in some instances, Cain Marko, is just a normal being, Juggernaut is the avatar, so yeah, he got beat up right now and there was nothing he could do about it. Many people argue who the stronger of the two between the Hulk and the Juggernaut, i would say hands down the Hulk, and with perfect reasoning if we are to assume both of their most powerful forms.
Hyperion was way too weakened here, he should've been able todefeat them all
It's sad how many commenting don't grasp how reduced Cain was at this time. WTF do you think he'd even BE on the Thunderbolts if he weren't reduced enough to be roped into it?
yeah and to add to that, he wasn't beaten that bad. compared to hyperion at the end lol.
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Ghost being an actual legend, yeah I caught that.
Banner, how many pages do you have?
Every time Juggernaut gets beat, his fangirls have a 1001 excuses on why he lost.
I actually thought juggernaut was gonna die. Would have sucked if he did
Juggernaut is no match for hyperion
Did Jugs have the Crystal of Cyttorack removed from him when this battle happened?
Collins Roberto Kaie Garcia Herman yes he is weakened here
@@Derg2003 oh, had to be.
If you dont own the rights, why are you violating the copyright law? You have to pay them for this!
I'm the Juggernaut bitch can't be beaten by physical force
This is probably one of the best written stories ive ever seen. Shows you dont need a ton of famous stars to roll out the red carpet.
Its just so hard to say whos tougher when it comes to juggernaut .hyperion. Hurt his hand in one of the punches he vave to juggernaut but not all of them.its hard anything related to juggernaut cause he has that hax of being impervious to pain or unstoppable but at the same time he does get hurt in a way with really strong people not enough.
I seen a crossover comic of superman punching juggernaut supposedly one shotting juggernaut but it was alittle weird i have yet to see juggernaut actually be put down in a punching fight and not just being removed in a different way cause they cant beat him in a fist fight
Superman vs Juggernaut would be like a pro heavyweight boxer fighting a 10 year old disabled kid in a wheelchair .
@@Dr.Westside lol
@@Dr.Westside if superman is putting some effort then yeah.cause every now and then superman lets some people hit him some what
Wait...when did Hyperion start talking like a frumpy Brit?
That's not a frumpy brit.
@@nathanalexandre9043 "I appear to have enraged the Juggernaut", "I don't give a toss". Sounds frumpy in my head. All we needed was a "pip pip" or "cheerio" and it would have been perfect.
Ugh Hyperion is literally everything I can’t stand about Superman! He’s supposed to be this indestructible being who can never be stopped by anyone or anything, until of course he’s weakened by some Space Rock (And even without the Argonite Juggernaut still managed landing some good punches on him). Everyone’s supposed to love him, and see him as the greatest hero because nothing can ever stop him, when literally every character in the Marvel Universe is better than him and beats his Superman wanna be ass into the GROUND! He deserves to lay there in defeat, crying & moaning like the pathetic bitch he is, I hate him so much and I’m so glad he lost!
What universe is this cause I thought Hyperion was a hero
This is King Hyperion, read Exiles
was this hyperion or king hyperion the evil universe buster that is much more powerful?
It was King Hyperion.
@@abraxis20 just a question but wasn't King Hyperion bald and defeated nearly everyone in his universe (including Galactus) off panel?
@@natesmashed He had hair when he was introduced as a character but quickly changed to the bald look.i guess to distinguish him from the other Hyperions he would later fight.
I'm Juggernaut
Wait wait wait this happened really?
J Double C not canon
brothers of wrath yes it is this happened in 616, you wish it wasn't canon that's a different story.
Make jason aaron watch this
did Hyperion die
I sure hope so!
So now marvel has three Superman copy cats? Hyperion Gladiator and Century
Sentry.
At full power juggernaut would pick his teeth with Hyperion and anyone else he unstoppable
Queria ter visto o Caim matar essa imitação fajuto de superman!
Juggernaut beat hyperion
Hyperion vs superman = draw
juggernaut can beat sups?
Ryan Reynolds is a fake marvel fan and just watched the movies and didn't read the comics or at least watch the 90's cartoon. how the hell did juggernaut gat captured in deadpool 2 and have power dampening collar device stop him from rampaging since it only stops mutant.powers? juggernaut is not a mutant. and we have a scene with deadpool saying he is juggernauts favorite fan claiming he read the comics. Ryan Reynolds is a fake marvel fan.
That was the script given to him smh
Your argument: *Ryan Reynolds is human, he's not the real deadpool*
lol 616 likes.
Why is Cain Marko so ugly in this comic?
Wasn't Hyperion a good guy?
Yeah but this Hyperion is called King Hyperion
Hyperion reminds me of homelander haha
Is Jug at full power in this? Also can some explain to me how his powers wax and wain.
This was around the time when cyttorak had taken his power. Colossus was the juggernaut around this time
kylongrifle so juggernaut is a title not a being?
Well it is both ways really, cyttorak bestows his power, "from this place goes a human juggernaut" and so on.. cain marko was depowered for some time and Colossus was given the powers of juggernaut by cyttorak. Juggernaut(cain marko) got them back in xmen #19.. just google colossus juggernaut or something like that and you will find all kinds of info on it
*Juggs Never Wins..*
Lame. They had to cheat and then after that gang up on him?!?! What kind of heroes are these?
Not heroes, that's the point. Thunderbolts is the Marvel version of the Suicide Squad. All villains, so fighting fair really isn't in the playbook. Especially not when dealing with someone that powerful that could take any of them one-on-one in the first place.
@@weekendwarrior8385 Thanks for clearing that up. Hyperion is one of my favorite characters. Was that the real version of him or the clone?
Juggernaut the best!!!! Ever...!!!!