Max Baer "Tender Hearted Tiger" Documentary (Restoration)

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  • Опубликовано: 19 ноя 2024

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  • @Ma007rk
    @Ma007rk 8 лет назад +30

    Seems like a helluva nice guy. We need more people like him in this world.

  • @halpritzker564
    @halpritzker564 8 лет назад +12

    Hal Pritzker
    Thank goodness for film/recordings. Generations removed from Max's time, we can see what a personable, heroic-looking, thoroughly likeable man he was. Too bad he came along too soon...and left the same way. He should have lived well into the 1980's..or even '90's. And we would have been the better for it.

  • @garymorris1856
    @garymorris1856 4 года назад +10

    I grew up in Omaha, Nebraska, and not everyone knows that Max Baer is our native son. However, those of us who know Max was born here are proud of it. Also, I say it was a disgrace the way in which he was portrayed in the Cinderella Man, very unfair.

  • @MacLeodRoy
    @MacLeodRoy 7 лет назад +26

    There are several comments already eluding to this but Max Schmelling was not a Nazi and was even believed to have saved two Jewish children at his own risk. Otherwise, well done showcase of one of the most underrated personalities in boxing history: Max Baer.

    • @charleybarley939
      @charleybarley939 3 года назад

      Well for not being a Nazi, Schmeling certainly never missed a publicity shot with Hitler. He even gave the Nazi salute in the ring in 1935 (when he didn't have to). Go to Getty Images and do a name search. Rather astonishing images.

    • @MacLeodRoy
      @MacLeodRoy 3 года назад

      @@charleybarley939 It's been well publicized that Max Baer was not a Nazi. He certainly was used by Hitler and the Nazi party for the purpose of propaganda. He refused to terminate the contract of his Jewish promoter. I'm sure Oscar Schindler could be found doing a salute from time to time but that didn't make him a Nazi through and through.

    • @charleybarley939
      @charleybarley939 3 года назад +1

      @@MacLeodRoy I understand where you are coming from, but some of S's behavior I do find rather "cringeworthy" to use a modern term. For example, on April 20 of 1938, the New York Post reported that Hitler "hosted" Schmeling "as a guest, and they saw together a film of the Schmeling-Dudas fight." The Post took that from an AP story. I know that S. may have been "used by Hitler," but 1938 was pretty late in the day (Nuremberg Laws had been in effect for 3 years) for sitting around chummily watching movies with Hitler. Sure, he was not a Nazi, but most Nazis could never even think of going to the movies with Hitler. So what does that make him? One could argue that S. was oblivious to Hitler's prejudice. But on November 8, 1935, the Jewish Standard reported that the cousin of Schmeling's own (Jewish) manager, Joe Jacobs, a champion German fighter by the name of Eric Seelig, had been stripped of all his titles by the Nazis because he was Jewish. These are historical questions as well as moral ones. All very interesting for the history of boxing.

    • @MacLeodRoy
      @MacLeodRoy 3 года назад +2

      @@charleybarley939 I think it's hard to judge someone for not standing up to a dictator. We can all claim we would have done different and the result may have been death and perhaps WE WOULD have been willing to face that possibility. I doubt that Schmeling was oblivious to his prejudices and sure, had he openly rejected Hitler he would have gone down a hero without question but just because he didn't risk his death on multiple occasions doesn't make him the enemy. It's more than likely he was just afraid. If you want to argue that's no excuse then so be it. If it is true that he saved two Jewish boys (hiding them in his apartment) which seems to be the case then he is, if nothing else, at least a more complex figure than he has often been portrayed.

    • @charleybarley939
      @charleybarley939 3 года назад

      @@MacLeodRoy A very interesting discussion. Thanks.

  • @STLTHYHD
    @STLTHYHD 11 лет назад +25

    Im related to Max Baer, hes my great great great uncle, thats why i looked up this video,

    • @RedcoatsReturn
      @RedcoatsReturn 6 лет назад +7

      SKiiLERHD You got good genes in your family, Max was a great man!

    • @kingwamarada3451
      @kingwamarada3451 4 года назад +5

      He was a great lineal and wba heavyweight champions

  • @jerryb19531953
    @jerryb19531953 6 лет назад +7

    Never knew this about max Baer. My father saw him fight and said he had one of the most devastating right hand ever. His charitable work I never knew about until this video. He was a good man more so out of the ring.

  • @timklein3962
    @timklein3962 8 лет назад +14

    Great guy all around; and one of the best built for his time; looked like a bodybuilder; and one of the greatest punchers ever !!

  • @MrEdium
    @MrEdium 7 лет назад +11

    He was Ali before Ali. His outside persona was Hilarious ! Between Max Baer, Willie Pep & Ali you would die... of laughter ! Max Baer was so funny but as "The Sweat Scientist of Boxing" Mr Burt "Sugar" once said, if I had to choose "The Hardest Puncher in Boxing" title it would be between Mr Max Baer & Mr Earnie Shavers it would be Earnie Shavers. I found this curious, "Sugar" didn't mention the heavy punchers of the day. No. he went to a boxer of the past, & of all the boxers of the past, he choose Max Baer ! Not Joe Louis, Rocky Marciano, Sonny Liston, Frazier, Foreman, Norton, Tyson, No ! Max Baer !!! Wow ! Amazing. What a fighter Max Baer must have been !

  • @davidlawrence3645
    @davidlawrence3645 4 года назад +1

    I scrolled down to the comments section to correct the narrative about Max Schmelling, and am so pleased to find that so many well-informed viewers have already done this. He was definitely not a Nazi. He was an elegant and civilized man. He was also a very good writer as anyone who has ever read his autobiography would attest. He used no ghost writer, but penned it himself, and lived so long (99) that he updated the book with a postcript that he added in his mid-80's.

  • @powerboatguy2308
    @powerboatguy2308 4 года назад +7

    His son Max Jr was interviewed recently and was mad at Ron Howard for making his father look bad in the movie Cinderella Man.

    • @garymorris1856
      @garymorris1856 4 года назад +4

      Max Baer Jr. had every right to be unhappy with Opie. The portrayal of Max in the Cinderella Man was a disgrace and very unfair.

    • @frankpaya690
      @frankpaya690 3 года назад +2

      @@garymorris1856 My personal impression was that Ron Howard took the character Max Bayer senior played in the movie The harder They Fall and made the portrayal of the real max Bayer like that character "buddy brannon"
      From the 1956, last Humphrey Bogart movie: The Harder They Fall.

    • @garymorris1856
      @garymorris1856 3 года назад +3

      @@frankpaya690 Possibly. However, I believe it is much simpler than this. It appears to me that Howard was just lazy and adopted the very convenient scenario of good vs evil. He depicted Braddock as good, so he needed a a heavy and this was Baer. It would have been very easy to do even the slightest research to know that Baer was nothing like the character depicted in the movie. Howard probably even knew that he was characterizing Baer unfairly, but didn't give a damn.

  • @ericrecano8557
    @ericrecano8557 Год назад +1

    I already knew Maxie was nothing like he was portrayed in Cinderella man as I like following old school prize fighters. This was a great documentary on Baer-thank you!

    • @ericrecano8557
      @ericrecano8557 Год назад

      There is an error in this documentary though. Max Schmelling was not a Nazi-by most accounts he was a amazing human being and became great friends with Joe Louis and even paid for his funeral and risked his life to aid holacaust victims

  • @SuperAram111
    @SuperAram111 10 лет назад +11

    max could not use the right against louis. he fought him totally different than he ever fought before because of it. I always believed had max had the real right hand that nite it would have been maybe a better fight. You could hit Joe Louis with a right. Louis could dish it out with both hands and Max took it as best he could. But lets face it. After the killing fights he was never the same.

  • @Jiltedin2007
    @Jiltedin2007 8 лет назад +7

    Jethro's Father looked more and more like him. I could see the resemblance, along with the personality that definitely resembles him.
    In case anyone never knew. Boxing Champion Max Baer is The Father of Jethro Clampett(Max Baer, Jr.).

    • @Jiltedin2007
      @Jiltedin2007 8 лет назад +4

      Check that: Jethro Bodine, not Jethro Clampett.

  • @andy29375
    @andy29375 3 года назад +5

    I nearly threw my monitor screen out the window when they started calling Max Schmeling a Nazi and ‘the arrogant Schmeling’😡😡
    Schmeling wasn’t remotely Nazi!! He even put himself at great personal risk protecting people that Hitler persecuted. He was one of the most decent and courageous champions to ever hold the Title! It was a horrible horrible way to label Schmeling!! He was a legend!!

    • @frankpaya690
      @frankpaya690 3 года назад +3

      That's how it usually is, people hear somebody referred to as "something" like a "Nazi"
      and they don't do any investigating, they just pass along the hear-say.

    • @garymorris1856
      @garymorris1856 3 года назад +3

      I agree. It is very unfair to call Schmeling a Nazi.

  • @donnellvickers4955
    @donnellvickers4955 6 лет назад +4

    WOW WHAT A VIDEO NICELY RESTORED.

    • @frankpaya690
      @frankpaya690 3 года назад

      How politically correctness has changed how we refer to people, you can't call bums, BUMS anymore, you got to call them homeless and you can't say somebody's on the "Dole"

  • @LeanestBeef
    @LeanestBeef 4 года назад +4

    I honestly hate how the movie cinderella man painted such a kind man

  • @clarencewright9841
    @clarencewright9841 4 года назад +4

    He could have stopped Joe Louis when he exploded on him, But Joe was not not having it he was on top of his game at that time, two of the greatest fighters ever lived, JOE and MAX

  • @RedcoatsReturn
    @RedcoatsReturn 6 лет назад +5

    I think Max was great!

  • @tc19948
    @tc19948 11 лет назад +2

    He was in a movie called "The Prizefighter and the Lady", in which several boxers and wrestlers from the 30s and before made guest appearances. Well worth catching, predates his comedies with "Slapsie" Maxey Rosenbloom, (I think).

  • @getredytagetredy
    @getredytagetredy 8 лет назад +13

    Max Schmelling was not a Nazi...He did not like the Nazi's and his personality was one of kindness and compassion even though Zionist media portrayed him as one...

  • @buddyvilla7393
    @buddyvilla7393 Год назад +1

    It’s hard to believe but Max Schmeling survived this beating and only lived another 72 years dying in 2005 at the age of 99. Much closer to the real life Max Baer than the way he was portrayed in Ron Howard’s 2005 film Cinderella Man He was portrayed as a sadistic psychotic monster. Max was a friendly affable love able goofball. Max never insulted Jim Braddock and his wife Mar in a nightclub. As noted Max Baer paid for Primo Carnera s hospital bills every damn penny. Carneras leg was In traction for two weeks. I always wondered what kind of career Max would or could have had if Maxs punches landed Frankie Campbell in the hospital instead of the cemetery. The chronology is a bit off Max fought Tony Galento 1940-41. And Max fought Joe Louis in 1935 as noted in the film. Madcap Maxie would fight another six years retiring in 1941 after his second fight with a younger California Adonis Lou Nova. Nova became the only man to defeat Max Baer twice.

  • @timjones2750
    @timjones2750 9 лет назад +8

    Died at such a young age for a man so fit.

    • @underzog
      @underzog 6 лет назад +5

      Max Baertook up smoking after killing Frank Campbell.

    • @beatlejim64
      @beatlejim64 5 лет назад +1

      Age 50 in 1959...

    • @carolbell8008
      @carolbell8008 3 года назад

      Yes, the really Good go toung.

    • @carolbell8008
      @carolbell8008 3 года назад

      Young!! ♥️

  • @Igor-ps5cd
    @Igor-ps5cd 3 года назад +2

    Extraordinary and fascinating man,real inspirativno.

  • @prac2
    @prac2 3 года назад +3

    Apparently schmeling was a nice guy too. He paid for Joe Lewis (sp) funeral after the IRS totally ruined his life

  • @chunkyscotty
    @chunkyscotty 12 лет назад +2

    Really nice documentary, thanks for restoring.

  • @benjaminnavarro4324
    @benjaminnavarro4324 4 года назад +4

    I liked both Baer and schmelling! Schmelling not a nazi, he helped pay for Joe louis funeral and a pallbearer! Baer portrayed badly in "Cinderella Man". His portrayal in the movie made me mad!

    • @seanmoore4248
      @seanmoore4248 4 года назад +3

      To be fair. The American public had no Idea that schmeling was a Nazi in name only, as many Germans were, and actually helped smuggle Jewish people out of Germany.

  • @sunheart72
    @sunheart72 12 лет назад +2

    beautiful doc ....thanks for sharing and restoring

  • @terrygribb9185
    @terrygribb9185 4 года назад +2

    My favourite fighter of all time

  • @RSTI191
    @RSTI191 3 года назад

    Wow, I had no idea.
    What a great post.
    THANK YOU

  • @ItsFrankiesGal
    @ItsFrankiesGal 12 лет назад +2

    Interesting, where did you obtain this film ? I paid the San Francisco Film Archives quite a bit of money to have it converted from 16mm film to DVD.

  • @w8r1
    @w8r1 9 лет назад +4

    7:22 7 right hooks?! before that I only saw Cleveland Williams shooting 5 left ones in a row.

    • @frankpaya690
      @frankpaya690 3 года назад

      In one of the Sunny Liston fights, the second one I think.
      But it wasn't enough to put Liston down.
      Those two fights with Cleveland Williams Plus when he fought against Marty Marshall in 1954 with a broken jaw, proved Liston could take it as well as dish it out,
      Unlike some of the made- up "beasts" since,
      that bite ears and quit on their stool, rather than continuing on against an opponent they're losing To.

  • @igolfjtweetler4097
    @igolfjtweetler4097 7 лет назад +3

    He was a nice guy, got a bit of a raw deal that movie.

  • @bjornsundberg1947
    @bjornsundberg1947 2 года назад

    A really nice guy. I'm surprised hearing him talk so distinctively and being so eloquent. Nowadays you can hardly hear or understand what popular American sportsmen are saying. Baer on the contrary had the charm and the voice of a Hollywood actor.

  • @carolbell8008
    @carolbell8008 3 года назад +1

    Men of this generation were tough as nails. Max Baer was a great Champion!! 🌺🎶

  • @zgomer1
    @zgomer1 10 лет назад +2

    Thanks for the great video...

  • @thomaschuning49
    @thomaschuning49 Год назад

    I'm glad that you're having stories about Maxie was I think a good good guy

  • @throwball2248
    @throwball2248 3 месяца назад

    What a man especially in the time of the great depression a generous man and what a personality RIP

  • @esausjudeannephew6317
    @esausjudeannephew6317 4 года назад +1

    Beautiful Guy

  • @trentcleghorn6840
    @trentcleghorn6840 6 лет назад +2

    The way Max PUNCH is he related to Wilder?

  • @kingwamarada3451
    @kingwamarada3451 4 года назад +2

    Max Baer was a true American hero(🇺🇸) He savagely battered the Italian pride(🇮🇹) Primo Carnera and so by doing that America had once again returned the lineal heavyweight title back home

  • @EdgardoCostaMadeira
    @EdgardoCostaMadeira 11 лет назад +5

    Schmeling was not a nazi.

    • @icewaterslim7260
      @icewaterslim7260 4 года назад

      Not only did the dumb asses get that wrong but the Schmeling / Baer fight was three years before the first Schmeling / Louis first fight. I swear, some of the ignoramus's that do these things are too lazy to complete the basic necessary research. Or, like Ron Howard, they just pull fabrications out of their ass.

    • @josephshields2922
      @josephshields2922 3 года назад +2

      @@icewaterslim7260 They also said Galento v Baer (1940) came before Louis v. Baer(1935) and Max retired after Louis but he went 22-4 after fighting Louis. Could be this Doc got screwed up during the restoration. How could a Documentary be so wrong?

  • @josephgeorge1009
    @josephgeorge1009 12 лет назад

    Thanks for restoring love it.

  • @thomaschuning49
    @thomaschuning49 Год назад

    Are about Max Baer when I was in junior high so him and Rocky Marciano are my two favorite fighters first time I read the story about Baer I like him a lot

  • @TheDharuma
    @TheDharuma Год назад

    I believe he is rated #22 by Ring Magazine 100 hardest punchers of all time. Rest in Love Champ. Aloha.

  • @windstorm1000
    @windstorm1000 12 лет назад +1

    look a the shoulders on that guy. a nice person all around I hear--in a rather brutal sport. wonder how he reconciled it all---

  • @frankpaya690
    @frankpaya690 2 года назад

    After losing his title to James Braddock, Max said:
    Jim can use the title- he has three kids, I don't know how many I have. That last comment cost Baer a radio show that he had at the time.

  • @paullav6651
    @paullav6651 7 лет назад +1

    best backhanded fighter in history

  • @georgehakimian5949
    @georgehakimian5949 2 года назад

    I talked to some old times who told me that if Max Bear took boxing seriously, he could have beaten anybody.

  • @anthonyjones2489
    @anthonyjones2489 6 лет назад

    Lovely movie marred by some bad research on the fight front. Schmeling's win over Louis came after his loss to Baer. The Louis fight was his first after losing to Braddock and Galento came around the end of his career. Great quote after he quit on one knee after taking a four round beating from the young Louis - "If the fans want to see an execution they'll have to pay more than ten bucks a seat!"

  • @carolbell8008
    @carolbell8008 3 года назад

    Armstrong was my great uncle. All of the champions of that time knew that Max was a good man and boxer.

  • @clivechambers6624
    @clivechambers6624 2 года назад

    One of the biggest insults to boxing was the ludicrous portrayal of James J Braddock and Max Baer.
    RUclips's revival of this documentary is the true picture and can be backed up with the many newspaper articles and biographies written of Baer. What is worst is the way it provoked the fertile imaginations of Bud Schulberg ("The harder they fall") and the producers of "Cinderealla Man".
    What was done to Baer's reputation and stature in "Cinderella Man" should have led to successful litigation against the film's producers.

  • @MrMarketingpro
    @MrMarketingpro 7 лет назад +1

    The best book about Max Baer is "Max Baer and Barney Ross: Jewish Heroes
    of Boxing." Read it and enjoy some of the most exciting bouts of the
    1930s.

  • @spoose1
    @spoose1 11 лет назад +1

    but idk how i would verify this

  • @thomaschuning49
    @thomaschuning49 Год назад

    But that the Glen tofigh happened after the Lewis fight he he didn't throw his right that much if you noticed when he he in the fourth he takes a knee but he gets right back up after the 10 count

  • @kailashpatirai
    @kailashpatirai 4 года назад +1

    beloved tender hearted Bear is more correct

  • @rosewoodsteel6656
    @rosewoodsteel6656 Год назад

    It's a shame that Hollywood slandered Max in the "Cinderella Man". Anything for a buck..

  • @donnellvickers4955
    @donnellvickers4955 6 лет назад +1

    max bare was great and he dad a DEVASTATING RIGHT HAND HE KILLED A MAN IN THE RING ONCE I LIKE THE A LOT HE WAS WAY BEFORE MY TIME BUT I ADMIRE HIM AND HE HAD A BEAUTIFUL HEART.

  • @kerryschallon8879
    @kerryschallon8879 4 года назад +1

    Schmeling wasn't a Nazi...

  • @germanfreighttrain3911
    @germanfreighttrain3911 2 года назад

    miss u max

  • @johntate5722
    @johntate5722 9 лет назад

    Yes Edgardo is right - this documentary is good, has great clippings and footage but they way they describe the Schmeling - Louis - Baer situations is right off - Schmelings victory over Louis never happened till 1936 (3 yrs after the meeting betwn Baer & Schmeling) ..and as Edgardo says Schmeling NOT a Nazi...he was indifferent to Hitler and had a Jewish trainer whom he did not want to give up after being advised to do so. The "drama" described here is invented. However all these men - Schmeling, Baer & Louis all great men. Max Baer was a tremendous athlete and ideally should have had a great post-career life - he would've been great in the modern media.John Tate Liverpool UK

    • @johntate5722
      @johntate5722 9 лет назад

      +John Tate Also need to add that Tommy H got this right as well

  • @spoose1
    @spoose1 11 лет назад

    @STLTHYHD supposedly im related too my dads family always said we were

  • @josephshields2922
    @josephshields2922 3 года назад

    This documentary is Bogus! Max fought Louis in 1935 in a title elinination to see who got to fight Braddock. That is why Max didn't get a rematch with Braddock.. He didn't Galento iuntil1940! He did not retire after the Louis fight. He was 22-4 in his comeback bid. He beat Galento in rd 7 and was supposed to Fight Louis in Sept (See Lou costello interview) but for some reason fought Pat cominsky instead. He retired after a loss to Lou NOVA. I'd love to know why Louis backed out of the rematch? How can they have made a "Documentar" with such sequenchial errors? He did not fight Galento before Louis, Joe was 5 years earlier. See Box Rec or Wikpedia.Is it possible they screwed it up in the restoration?

  • @roccodinosantino1474
    @roccodinosantino1474 2 года назад

    Max Bare was a palooka he couldn't even hold his title one fight

  • @alexanderkarl4025
    @alexanderkarl4025 3 года назад

    The movie has Max all wrong

  • @dougm1971
    @dougm1971 12 лет назад

    fook me !!....thank you...a lot !!

  • @jameshash9112
    @jameshash9112 4 года назад

    This thing historically is horrible! It's as if Ron Howard or Michael Moore--Both never let the truth get in the way of their telling a story their way!--made it. First, Baer barely had Jewish Affiliation. His Great-Grandfather was Jewish, but the family weren't practicing in the faith. Max only did it to drum up publicity with the New York fight crowd. (In fact, his co-manager Jack Demsey himself had more Jewish "blood" in his family than Baer!) Second, Baer fought Schmelling (1933) before Carnera (1934) for the title & then, came the Braddock & Louis losses in 1935. He didn't fight Galento until AFTER Tony fought Louis for the world's title in 1939. Max Schmelling was never a member of the Nazi party and hated politics. (Primo Carnera, I recall, was an honorary member of some organization in Fascist Italy, but Italy wasn't a "bad guy" to Americans until they declared war on the USA in World War II.) The extreme injustice done to Max Baer's reputation was when Ron Howard took the "Buddy Brannen" film role from the 1956 movie THE HARDER THEY FALL and made it Max's REAL personality. Baer only fought for the money and because he was a great right hand puncher. This "documentary" should come with a disclaimer!

    • @josephshields2922
      @josephshields2922 3 года назад

      They also have Max fighting Galento before Louis!

  • @anthonyclark6771
    @anthonyclark6771 2 года назад

    He really was a one of a kid his . His Hollywood good looks, along with his giant heart and comedic ways his life was cut short and he was before my time.But the movie Cinderella Man couldn't have been further than the truth. And being in Hollywood n pictures Ron Howard ought to be ashamed of himself. For making such a lopsided false to the true character of Max Baer. I truly hope you regrets that although he probably doesn't he strikes me as being all about money but he ought to be ashamed of himself for that movie not taking nothing away from James Braddock but Max bear was nothing like he was betrayed that movie.

  • @pokohalen2
    @pokohalen2 3 года назад

    Wow In Cinderella Man they made him out to be this arrogant psychopath. They totally sabotaged his image. What a nice human being he was.

  • @simongrinham7243
    @simongrinham7243 4 года назад

    He wasn't a nazi

  • @steveeisenhowereisenhower7130
    @steveeisenhowereisenhower7130 3 года назад

    Max wasn't one of the greatest heavyweights, it's silly to say that.