Yuri Ovchinnikov - 1973 World Figure Skating Championships LP
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- Опубликовано: 17 дек 2018
- The undisputed king of jumping in the early 70's, Yuri Ovchinnikov never won a World medal, largely due to figures and the fact that as Soviet number 3, he maybe didn't have the political push his team mates did. But here is is skating up a storm to West Side Story in Bratislava almost jumping out of the rink!
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Я училась тогда в 7 классе и Овчинников был моим любимым фигуристом и всегда "болела" за него. Не пропускала ни одного его выступления! Господи,где это время ! У меня был альбом с фотографиями из журналов и газет с фигуристами.
Тогда все этим занимались. У моей подруги он до сих пор сохранился.
А не было 8лет и я тоже тех фигуристов помню. Юрия так особенно!
О да мне было в 1978 году 8 лет и вот до сих пор Юрий Овчинников пусть для меня но он Легенда...
У него уникальные природные данные и огромное трудолюбие. Любимый обаятельный фигурист.
Мой любимый фигурист!!! Лёгкий, а прыжки фантастические...
Рано он родился. Его бы сейчас сюда телепортировать. Он проигрывал в обязательных, но прыжки до потолка и артистизм с обоянием невероятны.
Да ,чуть технику крутки изменить, 4ой Аксель по силе был бы. А четверные как орехи бы щёлкал.
Его выступление под музыку Баха просто обворожительно - глаз не оторвать!
Вы про другое выступление?
Ого, какая высота прыжка и пролетность. Четверные прыгать. Жалко, что и тройных почти нет. Очень одаренный фигурист. И в катании, и в прыжках.
Тогда только они появлялись. Техника была ещее не отработана.
@@user-hf9uu5um9h , да, понятно это. Говорю о природном таланте.
время другое было
Я считал, что у него самые высокие прыжки в истории, мог скрутить даже четверной Аксель по высоте и пролетности хватало. Технику крутки изменить и все. А уж пройной без проблем бы мог.
Обожаю Овчинникова! ❤Всегда за него болела. Очень музыкальный, очень артистичный, а ещё очень милый и симпатичный! Его произвольные программы и показательные выступления были просто супер!!! 👍🏻😍⛸
Такой он миниатюрный, легкий ветерок... А прыжки.. Так это что то.. Слов нет! Дениса Тен напоминает 🙏Царствие небесное нашему Казахстанскому мальчику! А Юрику подольше оставаться на плаву ✊✊✊💖👍🙏💥🔥🌹🌹🌹
а может Тен его все -таки ?
Легкость катания необыкновенная,прыжки выше бортика. И при всем том настоящее мужское катание. Изумительный фигурист. Помню с детства.
Лучший!!! 6.0!!!
Юрий,гениус!
У Юрия Овчиннинкова были очень высокие прыжки!..жаль,что так мало было различных 3ных..много конкретно в этой программе незаконченных.. А стиль катания очень элегантный!! 👍🏼
Один из любимых моих фигуристов.Талант!!
Thank you Floskate for this rarity. Bring back huge open axels, crosscuts and aesthetically pleasing footwork!
Finally, competition video of our great Yuri. Jumps really so high! Thank you so much for video.
Wonderful!
мой любимчик в те годы! обожала! везде писала- Юрочка чемпион! тогда он стал чемпионом СССР! школа его подводила....а сейчас ее убрали. очень обидно, что не раньше!
This performance shows why all of the crap that announcers talk about quad jumps doesn't amount to a hill of beans! Skating with heart soul and rhythm is so much more of a pleasure to watch!!
Yuri is a great man. He always stood by everyone who worked hard at skating. A true hero!
Thank you for sharing your video!
Art and class!
В то время, наверное, ещё не было "цветочных" девочек!..фигуристы сами собирали со льда цветы и подарки!))
И это было приятно видеть и тем кто бросал цветы кумирам-- знак внимания !
Классика фигурного катания!
А где же самая классная программа - где он катается под музыку Баха?...
Thanks so much for posting this. Love, love, LOVE these old clips of unsung heroes!!! For some reason, I always thought Ovchinnikov was a Tchaikovskaya skater because of his raw masculine style and (sometimes) wild technique, and it is interesting to see that Igor Moskvin was responsible for this one-of-a-kind talent. I thought Igor Bobrin was the only top make skater Mr. Moskvin produced and, now that I know, his jumps DO remind me of those by Bobrin, with landings with the right arm in front and somewhat untidy legs--and, most notably, the effective use of a series of non-scoring jumps (like inside-Axels, 1-ft Axels, 1.5 toes, etc.)
I love e these clips myself thanks for posting
В настоящее время такой АКСЕЛЬ смотрится как бабочка. У многих спортсменов виден запас на большее. Его данные позволили бы прыгать и четвёртые. Но в те годы подготовка была другая. Когда сейчас в 7 лет уже примеряют, а то прыгают тройные, тогда только перекидные. Тем более когда он только начинал учиться кататься подготовка была ещё очень консервативная. И, мягкие руки и пластичный корпус украсили бы выступление. Но таковы были требования, явно сдерживающие способных представителей этого вида спорта.
Incredible! Great basic skating in between the jump elements as well, its surprising he struggled so much in figures... Or maybe the judges just buried him in figures for political reasons! A lot of his skating makes me think of Robin Cousins.
Actually, I thought the same thing too. Those long arms and legs...
Chetverukhin, Yuri's teammate won the free skating in this competition. I was actually searching for his performance when I stumbled on this delight. Ondrej Nepela won the competition with 2nd place in the short and free, because he was first place in figures. Yuri was 3rd place in the free skating with this performance.
It is a shame the open Axel is not done anymore. Robin Cousins is the last skater I remember doing beautiful open axels in competition, but there were probably many others. It was a staple in the 50s and 60s. That and the waltz jump can look so good when floated high off the ice in good form, as the Axel is done here. Back in the '70s, a friend of mine in Europe could do the most beautiful and high waltz jumps I'd ever seen, covering a lot of distance, but he never did it in competition because it was just not done.
Although his landings are not perfectly smooth, Yuri had about as high a triple jump as you'll see today, and higher than the average of the top 10 men in the world today. He flings himself into the air with such abandon. As a kid, when I saw skating like this on TV, it made me want to jump and fly just like that. Then you get on skates and doing it presents a whole different set of difficulties. Even leaving the ice for a half jump is filled with peril.
At least Yuri made it into a competition or two. Some skaters who started figures in their teens, particularly mid or late-teens, had bad figures because they didn't start figures as children, and couldn't qualify for competition no matter how brilliant their free skating was. Their option was to skate with a show.
I don't know what Yuri's story was about figures. Sometimes people were just bad at them because they hated them. According to my coach anyway, there was a young woman considered the best compulsory figure skater in the world around the early 1970s, had the same coach as Trixi, but she lacked athleticism and struggled with a double Salchow, so she couldn't compete. It was then that I accepted there was not necessarily much of a relationship between skaters who were good in figures and skaters who were good in free.
Еще один гений фигурного катания прошлых лет ....
thank you so much for posting this! those axels!!! people like you posting these great classic programs are my source for figure skating enjoyment now. my belief is that figure skating really only exists in a few instances at the elite level anymore, mostly Yuzaru, they should just go ahead and call it Ice Gymnastics now....more quads and 3le-3le combinations are not what fans want....apologies for the soap box rant....
У него почти никогда не было медалей, но он такой пластичный...
Потому что были проблемы с так называемой школой - рисованием фигур, был такой первый вид соревнований у одиночников, по ТВ не показывали. В этом виде также была проблема у Толляра Кренстона. Овчинников в то время был единственный из наших, кто прыгал с ходу без подготовки и очень высоко, как американцы и канадцы. Спасибо, что выложили видео, было очень интересно посмотреть и вспомнить, тогда мне было одиннадцать лет, но впечатления от фигурки остались на всю жизнь.
Тройных прыжков тоже почти не было у него..хотя стиль катания был очень даже элегантным!))
@@whitecat3923 при таком ярком и артистичном катании можно и без тройных! Юрий блестящий фигурист!
Бронза на Евро была, ну и отдельные медали вручали по программам золото заПП брал. Эта пресловутая школа фигур. Не в то время родился
@@user-xj6nv4px3b 🤝👌👏👍
Площадь катка маленькая что ли была? Ну как на арене в цирке смотрится. Прекрасные высокие, мощные прыжки!
Очень низко камера установлена и очень крупный план - получается "оптический обман" малой площадки.
За океаном катки меньше, чем в Европе.
Какое великолепное катание, сейчас бы его!
Встретила его как-то в булочной, в Ленинграде, видимо, жил недалеко, не помню, в каком я классе училась, 9-10 наверное. Он оказался ниже меня ростом, намного ниже 1,70-ти, некрупный, легкий. Такая знаменитость! Тогда все фигуристов знали.
Couldn’t he fly!!! Another great posting, thanks so much! (Side note, they were determined to fit in the whole musical score, weren’ they?)
True but it's such great music !!
It looks like his arms will break if he raises them over his shoulders. and so he doesn’t. Every friggin song from West Side Story including “I feel pretty”. AMAZING jumps though.
При такой высоте прыжка 1,5 аксель как насмешка, мог бы прыгать хорошие тройные запросто и плюс его артистичность
А где он сейчас?
@@user-qg2jn1vj3x Жив-здоров! Ему около 50-55.
Друг Бобрина и Бестемьяновой
@@user-od9ke3pv5o , ну что вы )) Ему уже 70.
@@user-qg2jn1vj3x Юрий Львович Овчинников (родился 3 июня 1950 в Ленинграде) - советский фигурист (одиночное катание). Мастер спорта СССР международного класса. Чемпион СССР 1975 года и бронзовый призёр чемпионата Европы по фигурному катанию 1975 года. В 2010-2020 гг. - советник исполнительного директора Олимпийского комитета России[1]. В 2013-2018 гг. возглавлял Ассоциацию профессиональных тренеров России[2].
Hey flo, do you know if there is any video of Yuri's skating in the 1976 Olympics? He came in 8th and 7th in the SP and FS respectively.
Like everything, I have a personal anecdote about the search for old skating videos. Around 1975, I traveled a couple hundred miles to NYC to buy Harlick skates and one of the things I wanted to do was go to the new Museum of Broadcasting and see video of Janet Lynn skating in competition, especially in the US Nationals or any of her World competitions. So I went to the new Museum of Broadcasting, all excited, thinking they'd have this fantastic collection of old skating, like all the videos that were ever broadcast on American TV stations, like ABC, and that I'd get to see Janet skate again.
So I paid my $6 or whatever, and looked in the card catalog and all they had was about half a dozen skating videos at most, and only one was of Janet, but as a professional and something I remembered wasn't all that great. I ended up watching Peggy Fleming's Grenoble skate, which they'd showed dozens of times before, including after her Olympics. They would only allow you to order two videos.
I asked them why they wouldn't have footage of Janet Lynn, and they told me the tapes they used for US Nationals and other events, they used over again for other things. Now I just checked that info on the Internet and, indeed, the video tapes that TV stations used cost $300 a reel and they did tape over a lot of things.
So are all these hundreds of old skating videos on the Internet taken from events that were filmed? Or did they sometimes film and TV broadcast at the same time? I know I have seen some clips from US Nationals that were taken on film, by people who had a home movie cameras that could also record sound.
You would think that by the 1960s, skating at the Olympics would be considered to be important enough that every participant would be filmed, and film can last a long time whereas video degrades, as far as I know.
Да , сейчас бы он был чемпионом вовсех чемпионатах
His clothes look modern as nowadays. No Jumping Jack- Dress with yellow napkins .
Советское катание!
Почему не был обласкан судьями?
Молодец
Как сейчас фигурное катание ушло далеко от того
In 5 minutes he never raised his arms over his head. Cross overs and jumps. Snore galore but I was a juvenile skater back then so... I’m glad we got some art a few years later with Toller Cranston and John Curry.
I think judging these old gems based on today's standards would only cause frustrations. Virtually none of the male skaters "danced" in the 1970s, and some male skaters have later reported that their coaches wouldn't even allow them to face the palms of their hands up while skating! Those were different times, and I enjoy viewing these old clips with such contextual information in mind.
[And I am hoping that, in a few years, we will be looking back at the performances today and thinking, "Wow, the ISU actually used to encourage these busy choreographies without long gliding edges! How crazy was that!!!"]
@@nondescriptnyc Oh I'm not judging by any standards of todays skating. I started skating in 1970. My first competition was in 1974. I was commenting on the fact of the style. It was macho in rigidity but the jumping by Ovchinikov was outstanding. To skate to West Side Story and have your arms never go above your head is just-well-worth commenting on. AT the same time, as I mentioned, skaters like John Curry, Robin Cousins and Toller Cranston, opened the doors, at that time for what we now have as "today's standard" of GOE's or Grade Of Execution.
@@nondescriptnyc
There were professional skaters in the old days, some with a background in dance, such as Billy Chapel, who danced on the ice, ignoring the palms-down, arms level rules of too many male amateur skaters at the time. Yeah, palms down, flat hand, fingers together. Not a bad guideline for beginners to feel stable and balanced, but too rigid for anyone past a few years of skating, or for anyone who felt they wanted to express themselves to music.
This reminds me of how John Curry's father wouldn't allow him to take ballet, but would allow skating because it was a sport. It was outdoorsy, just like hunting but with no animal slaughter. So there was this whole masculinity sports baggage attached, complete with some straight men in the sport who hated being mistaken for gay just because they were skaters.
The palms down thing and scarecrow arms could have also been partly a holdover from figures. My second coach was a revolutionary. His background was in ballet, but he taught basic skating from a set of positions which involved tension, direction of motion, with a lot of exercises like rotating the arms many times in opposite directions, 360 degrees, in preparation for part of the motion the arms do for a flip jump. His whole thing was that if skaters practiced moving their arms in various motions, learning to do it just as a dancer does, that would help them look good on the ice.
But back to the figures in figure skating...there was a pathological pseudoscience around how compulsory figures built the necessary skills for free skating, and that they were absolutely essential if a skater was to attain good edge, good balance, control of jumps, spins and turns, discipline, success later in the life, mental stability, whatever. Most of it was baloney. It was accepted as factual.
There were even people who got hung up on the name, "figure skating," like they had to perpetuate the practice of figures because they were in the name!
But the inordinate amount of time that had to be spent mastering figures thwarted the artistic development of amateur skating, particularly for men. Professional show skating was different. That was more anything goes.
Speaking of arms, what do you think of the habit 99.9% of skaters have of bobbing their arms up and down while doing back crossovers?
Yuri doing it looks kind of natural, whereas some skaters do it and it drives me crazy. Even Cranston and Curry did it, while amateurs anyway. I learned to skate in the 1970s without bobbing my arms on crossovers.
I don't mean a skater should skate with the arms perfectly rigid, or attempt to attain zero movement. But instead of flapping them up and down, you can hold your arms a little more still, keep the range of motion down, or maybe open one arm a few inches while skating backward, starting at the elbow, to the wrist and hand, in a flowing movement that looks natural, not like a repetitive tic.
Skaters develop the habit of bobbing their arms in practice. Maybe it helps to loosen up the arms when warming up, or it's something you do when you're happy, and it may even help other skaters see you better on the ice to avoid collusion. But if a skater is going to do that all the time, it's pretty hard to eliminate it when skating a program in competition under pressure.
To be fair, Toller had enough personality for 3 people.
Yuri's skating reminds me of Hoffman and Cousins.
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он умер?
Нет, живой, тренирует, в России.
@@user-mr2xc8hf4g где?!