SLIP TEST - Volvo V60 Cross Country AWD & Volkswagen Passat Alltrack 4Motion
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Volvo V60 CC D4 AWD (2010)
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Volkswagen Passat 2.0 TDI DSG Alltrack 4Motion (2014)
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The two cars have almost the same system mechanically speaking. The difference is the electronic management of the traction control. And once again, I find Volvo's settings to be much more refined and efficient.
Te dwa auta przebiły większość SUV-ów typu crv 4gen czy wiele wiele innych które testowałeś. Dobrze przemyślana elektronika która rozdziela moment na koło które ma przyczepność i autko wyjeżdża z rolek nawet w opcji gdy na asfalcie stoi jedno tylne koło!
volvo was very smooth and fast :)
On the Passat you can see the wheel with traction spining on the tarmac multiple times. Clearly it needs some fresh tires. The AWD seems to be fine and enough torque is transfered.
This is a suspension problem. The majority of weight is transferred through wheels that are on the rollers. So the last wheel doesn't exert sufficient force on the ground. If it was on a flat surface, there would not be a problem.
@SiempreConTrasto It's Alltrack, it has enough suspension travel for these rollers. Better tyres would solve the problem, like in many other tests we did.
The tests where the Volvo was done, is even in ground. The ground where the Passat is being tested doesnt look as even as the one with the volvo. Therefor I find this alittle uneven.
Since when in certain positions the car is slightly higher off ground and cant get any traction on the left back wheel. But otherwise impressed by the Volvo. Fun to watch!
There problem was rather with Passat tyres than the ground. Both cars did very well. Thanks!
Volvo ❤
I thought both cars were good enough, but the Volvo looks much better so I would get the Volvo.
Премиум есть премиум. Вольво подтверждает весьма неплохую настройку электроники. Но и Фольц тоже неплох.
Great video! Would it be possible to test some time the latest 6th generation Haldex? It is for sure in Skoda octavia scout (2020) and in Volkswagen Golf Alltrack (2021). Thanks!
Thanks! If we only find these cars we will test them for sure 🙂
ave you ever wondered when doing single tire with grip (eg only front R), if there is a difference if it were the other wheel with grip? eg try it on - only R front, then only L front. as these engines are usually transverse mount, the front wheels are not driven the same like a longitudinal mounted or boxer engine.
We did try a few times to test L/R configuration and there was no difference. Finally we decides that driver's side will be the one to fight in three rollers test.
@@4x4.tests.on.rollers thank you that's very good to know
The system is the same. I think the biggest difference is in wheel size. Because Volvo has bigger wheels, his job is much easier to climb over that rollers. You can see that Passat has good torque send to that one wheel, but with his smaller tires, his job is more dificult.
System is not the same. Both are haldex but control software is individual. Wheel size difference is marginal here. Passat had problems due to worn out tyres which were slipping on pavement.
Even if Volvo tyre size diameter is larger, this is actually a disadvantage as this means it delivers less torque to the road, all things being equal. The closer to the axle the tyre thread is, the more torque is delivered.
Looks like the Passat tyres are either over inflated or just warn out.
There must be something wrong with the VW tires. You cannot slip in that weather condition + type of the surface
They were worn out.
wheels receive brake even with ESP OFF, right?
Yes. But engine is less restricted.
@@martinsvensson6884 ok. Thank you
How does the 2007 passat compare to the 2014?
Unfortunately we didn't test 2007.
Does the Passat have the 4th generation of Haldex?
Yes.
Volvo has haldex 5 and passat 4, right?
Not sure if it's 5th on Volvo. Originally it had 4th, I don't know if they switched to 5th later on.
@@4x4.tests.on.rollers yes, it's 5 in the latest p3 platform and 5 in the SPA.
Nie wiem czy mi się tak zdaje ale passat w trybie off road gorzej działa na rolkach niż w normalnym trybie
A wogole ten tryb off road to jest blokada centralna
Nie znam szczegółów działania trybu offroad, może właśnie ten tryb pozwala na więcej "mielenia" kołami.
@@4x4.tests.on.rollers hehehe dokładnie w końcu off road
@@cygmen7636 Temat do weryfikacji 🙂
Does Haldex AWD has overheat protection?
Yes it does.
@@4x4.tests.on.rollers Does that mean if really overheat, the clutch pack will disconnect?
@@suyuanxie8022 I think it will be disconnected just before overheat. So there is no real overheat, just higher temperature.
@@4x4.tests.on.rollers Alright. But Torsen Center diff seems never overheat, right?
@@suyuanxie8022 Right, it's entirely mechanical, no clutches.
The bigger wheels of the Volvo helps to get out of the rolls
The difference on rollers may be about 1 mm.
OFF OFF ROAD?
XD
Get test Passat b8 Alltrack
All up to volunteers.
Volvo wygrało bez problemu 🤷
Volvo seems good but in real conditions sucks
how come?
Where did yu get that from?
@@martinsvensson6884real life, if u don't believe me watch tests from suv battle battle on yt, they're well done
@@g.d.m.1195 SUV Battle channel does great tests but they are offroad tests, putting a lot of stress on the entire cars, not only on the awd systems. These cars are not designed for that. And that's very different from driving in slippery conditions.
@@g.d.m.1195 And I still dont believe you... I watch that channel also and have seen no indication that Volvos AWD system sucks in real life...
I've seen a test of the XC90 there where it struggled a bit in parts of the course because it had the smallest engine of the bunch which seemed to have problems overcoming the brakes in extreme conditions..
Disappointed by the vw...