Michael Malice: Totalitarianism and Anarchy | Lex Fridman Podcast

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  • Опубликовано: 6 июн 2024
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    OUTLINE:
    0:00 - Introduction
    0:32 - Animal Farm
    3:34 - Emma Goldman
    6:39 - Albert Camus
    8:09 - How to be a hero in Nazi Germany
    15:15 - Camus on Existentialism vs Nihilism
    21:17 - Cynicism is a lie
    26:24 - Nazi invasion of the Soviet Union
    46:43 - Lex and Michael argue: can most people think on their own?
    58:21 - How Lex and Michael use Twitter
    1:07:43 - Life is beautiful
    1:10:46 - Returning to Ukraine
    1:12:39 - Michael is now an underwear model
    1:16:45 - The Anarchist Handbook
    1:18:32 - Tolstoy was an anarchist
    1:31:14 - Anarchy debate between Lex and Michael
    2:00:22 - Why Michael doesn't vote
    2:17:37 - Austin and New York
    2:26:13 - Alex Jones
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Комментарии • 6 тыс.

  • @lexfridman
    @lexfridman  2 года назад +891

    Here are the timestamps. Please check out our sponsors to support this podcast.
    0:00 - Introduction & sponsor mentions:
    - Gala Games: gala.games/lex
    - Indeed: indeed.com/lex to get $75 credit
    - BetterHelp: betterhelp.com/lex to get 10% off
    - MasterClass: masterclass.com/lex to get 15% off
    0:32 - Animal Farm
    3:34 - Emma Goldman
    6:39 - Albert Camus
    8:09 - How to be a hero in Nazi Germany
    15:15 - Camus on Existentialism vs Nihilism
    21:17 - Cynicism is a lie
    26:24 - Nazi invasion of the Soviet Union
    46:43 - Lex and Michael argue: can most people think on their own?
    58:21 - How Lex and Michael use Twitter
    1:07:43 - Life is beautiful
    1:10:46 - Returning to Ukraine
    1:12:39 - Michael is now an underwear model
    1:16:45 - The Anarchist Handbook
    1:18:32 - Tolstoy was an anarchist
    1:31:14 - Anarchy debate between Lex and Michael
    2:00:22 - Why Michael doesn't vote
    2:17:37 - Austin and New York
    2:26:13 - Alex Jones

    • @cuzimaluzer777
      @cuzimaluzer777 2 года назад +21

      Omg that thumbnail is AMAZING

    • @bennyyoungblood
      @bennyyoungblood 2 года назад +1

      @@cuzimaluzer777 ain't it

    • @bezoznaught5261
      @bezoznaught5261 2 года назад +22

      I was actually hoping the whole show was going to be Michael being Lex, interviewing Lex being Michael XD

    • @adeshmishra1671
      @adeshmishra1671 2 года назад +6

      First video in which the purpose of life is not mentioned..

    • @jaseboon6282
      @jaseboon6282 2 года назад +1

      I'm Boxer sadly

  • @strawmanfallacy
    @strawmanfallacy 2 года назад +5309

    This is the best podcast intro ever.

    • @sultanofswingdrift3021
      @sultanofswingdrift3021 2 года назад +86

      I haven't laughed like this in a long time, thank you both crazy humas

    • @DarkSlushie
      @DarkSlushie 2 года назад +42

      He forgot the quick mention of our sponsors though.

    • @roymakescomics
      @roymakescomics 2 года назад +14

      Definitely not the first, certainly the best.

    • @red-stapler574
      @red-stapler574 2 года назад +25

      Anar-cast broke me.

    • @SolarHeavy
      @SolarHeavy 2 года назад +2

      so great lmao

  • @austinfry3096
    @austinfry3096 2 года назад +4694

    I feel like I finally watched enough of Lex's podcasts that I unlocked new skins...

  • @MFnDahk
    @MFnDahk Год назад +227

    Lex and malice still make one of the best shows I've ever seen. Stay healthy, we need more like yall.

    • @swapticsounds
      @swapticsounds Год назад

      Humoristic highlight of this episode: Lex: "Don´t make me put on this hat again" :D
      As a left but non-fundamentalist anarchist, I felt similarly, or at least, I loved that joke. When the concept of the state gets strawmanned too much I feel the urge to defend something what I actually don´ wanna defend but have differenciated debate about it. (Like the polarised debates as well, when presented with humor, as it is done here)
      I go with Schmachtenberger´s replies to Lex` questions regarding to that topic complex:
      Do I criticize the current parlamentary democracy model? Can I imagine it better? Yes.
      Do I want the state to end abruptly and being replaced by the structural power of private companies? No.
      Do I have trust that private companies will become smaller and fairer as soon as they are not backed up by the state anymore? No.
      Would I trust privately payed security services and private arbitral tribunals to be more neutral as current police and judiciary?
      Absolutely not.

    • @MFnDahk
      @MFnDahk Год назад +4

      @@rocketBTW if you didn't enjoy these 2 then it's definitely a you thing, no matter what your mom tells you.

    • @Dustin-ux6fl
      @Dustin-ux6fl 10 месяцев назад

      ​@@rocketBTWwhat's your taste then? Rachel Maddow?

  • @stevebuffinton1094
    @stevebuffinton1094 2 года назад +47

    25 min in and I've only been listening to this. When I sat down and looked at the screen and seen their outfits I cracked up with a giddy happiness. Such deep conversation paired with the silliness of these two men is fantastic. And I'm not trying to cast disparaging comments on their heritage in that statement. Being deep, silly, and honoring their heritage was done quite brilliantly. Love it, love these two.

  • @willy8s
    @willy8s 2 года назад +2043

    Michael's impression captures Lex's inflection so well, yet overall it's so distinctly Michael.

    • @anonony9081
      @anonony9081 2 года назад +70

      "Anarcast"

    • @dominicklittle9828
      @dominicklittle9828 2 года назад +8

      That’s what I was gunna say, I want to see him try to go full lex tho. That would be awesome to have malice host the show even tho he pretty much does without realizing it

    • @harrysachs2274
      @harrysachs2274 2 года назад +25

      "Simpleton" lol.

    • @erkkiboy
      @erkkiboy 2 года назад +8

      Laughing so hard at the intro 😊

    • @tomn4295
      @tomn4295 2 года назад +1

      I love his impressions in his audio book of "the new right".

  • @KevinSmith-gw5rk
    @KevinSmith-gw5rk 2 года назад +1382

    Lex: “It was a joke”
    Michael: “It was a failure”
    Lex: “There is no triumph without failure”
    Love you guys

    • @greendholia5206
      @greendholia5206 2 года назад +2

      timestamp?

    • @rayuk3939
      @rayuk3939 2 года назад +6

      15:02

    • @moonbear894
      @moonbear894 2 года назад +2

      @@greendholia5206 @14:50

    • @rossherrington3185
      @rossherrington3185 2 года назад +46

      And the joke Was funny!

    • @rivera2030
      @rivera2030 2 года назад +16

      That exchange is so typical of people that are really friends, especially men.

  • @jdwar11
    @jdwar11 Год назад +27

    These two gentlemen had one of the best conversations I have ever seen or heard. I like to try and hold any comments until the very end during either of these guys talks so I can really focus and think about what they are actually saying and let it sink in. I am now watching this for the third time in it’s entirety and just blown away with these two.

  • @John_Notmylastname
    @John_Notmylastname Год назад +24

    I love Lex’s ability to let things sit and be quiet without inserting courtesies mindlessly. Let the moment play out.

  • @AliBooondok
    @AliBooondok 2 года назад +1098

    The beginning is fucking the best thing that ever has happened.

    • @colbybohannan3394
      @colbybohannan3394 2 года назад +7

      No, it’s not.

    • @yog-sothoth37
      @yog-sothoth37 2 года назад +1

      @WorldFlex extremely bad sarcasm and hyperbole * It's disgusting, I agree

    • @cozy4920
      @cozy4920 2 года назад +1

      @WorldFlex that’s just how we were raised 🤷🏻‍♂️ thank the parents of your generation

    • @MicahMicahel
      @MicahMicahel 2 года назад +4

      @@cozy4920 I think it's because you grow up in social media. We never had the self awareness your generations do, so we were able to be more sincere.

    • @Pow3llMorgan
      @Pow3llMorgan 2 года назад +4

      @@eliyahfeld Millenials is a pretty large grouping and constitute people from ages 25 to 40. I would probably be willing to bet they are the largest audience to this podcast. I'm pretty much in the center of the Millenial generation (born '89) and I've been following Lex's podcast keenly since its beginning.

  • @wuvs2spooge
    @wuvs2spooge 2 года назад +1155

    Michael: *crying*
    Lex: "You appear to have sprung a leak, here is an absorbent square of paper"

  • @artigraphmultimedia1489
    @artigraphmultimedia1489 Год назад +17

    Absolutely Riveting. Conversation on human capacity for good, evil, banality, and cruelty.
    ""That mediocre person with a little bit of power ... "
    The courage to be weird, heroism with and without martyrdom..
    I will hit you up payday Lex.
    Thank you Thank you ❤️🙏

  • @JoelNTerry
    @JoelNTerry 2 года назад +33

    Wow, really uplifting stuff from Micheal, usually I love him for his humour and amazing sense of humour but this conversation I found him to be absolutely inspiring and so helpful...Incredible!

  • @MeticulousTechTV
    @MeticulousTechTV 2 года назад +457

    I've watched lots of interviews with Michael, and no one quite tempers the troll side of him like Lex does. As a result, his brilliance really shines in these conversations without his obnoxious side overwhelming the conversation. These conversations are the best of Michael and in some ways also the best of Lex, great stuff!

    • @inthefade
      @inthefade 2 года назад +44

      Lex also isn't afraid to play along. Just check out the costumes. He is indeed a great foil for Malice, bringing out the best in him. I wouldn't call it tempering, and I absolutely love Michael's trolling, but there is definitely something fantastic about the way these guys interact.

    • @phobletera
      @phobletera 2 года назад +5

      It makes Michael too dangerous too soon.

    • @VorpalDerringer
      @VorpalDerringer 2 года назад +1

      I do like the troll side of Malice, but that is good news, I will make time to listen.

    • @MmeO
      @MmeO 2 года назад +20

      Lex brought out a side of Michael I have never seen - his discussion about his grandfather and what his Russian family endured during WW2 - soul crushing.

    • @thomasgregson13
      @thomasgregson13 2 года назад +6

      100% agreed !

  • @ChrisWillx
    @ChrisWillx 2 года назад +1301

    My ears are burning 💜 Big love boys x

    • @kennelson5096
      @kennelson5096 2 года назад +7

      Thank Mr. Malice next time you speak for another subscriber to your podcast. Cheers.

    • @0fuxTaken
      @0fuxTaken 2 года назад +32

      Chris, when are you going to play dressup with Michael? 😁

    • @S3aCa1mRa1n
      @S3aCa1mRa1n 2 года назад +8

      Oh shiiit modern wisdom 😀

    • @2CSST2
      @2CSST2 2 года назад +1

      Holy crap I hope you could get some water and relieve yourself! Please next time you don't need to comment it on youtube, it's dangerous take care not to burn alive :O

    • @kellanaldous7092
      @kellanaldous7092 2 года назад +14

      My dyslexia read that as "love big boys"

  • @58frascatti
    @58frascatti Год назад +4

    Most powerful thing I’ve seen in many years. Gilbert Allardyce, my 1st year history prof in 1968, brought me to the same mental and emotional place. I’ve been a student of history ever since. I’m 78 now, and have viewed the world through the same lens ever since. I’ve been accused of being callous, hard nosed, etc. But the fact is, through years of ups and downs, I’ve never come anywhere near the horrors others have endured. Arendt’s “Origins of Totalitarianism “ made it clear to me how fragile our cushy lives actually are. I see clearly how my country (🇨🇦) is careening into authoritarianism but I have no power to change it’s course. Malice offers the solace of small, personal acts of kindness and humanity. Lines like “…til human voices wake us and we drown”, and “slouching toward Bethlehem “ are more and more meaningful. Meanwhile, spring is on its way, and I consider it my duty to savour each moment.

  • @jyotiprakashpanda4717
    @jyotiprakashpanda4717 Год назад +58

    The moment when Michael asks if he can swear and Lex goes, "Fuck Yes", is podcasting gold. Wow.

    • @skinksinthecity
      @skinksinthecity Год назад

      Lol, agreed. Awesome episode & I most definitely will watch this again.. Malice is a Legend to me, & Lex is incredible as an interviewer/journalist & I am hooked.👍

    • @reveilleamerica3589
      @reveilleamerica3589 Год назад

      Kim Jon ill is a son of a bitch
      Got the blue balls,crabs,
      And the seven year itch

    • @deepakx7
      @deepakx7 Год назад +1

      yeah it gave me nerd chills

    • @afox3096
      @afox3096 Год назад

      Have

  • @itsmorgan10
    @itsmorgan10 2 года назад +437

    Michael doing the intro....
    I can already tell I'm going to enjoy this one.

    • @Menaceblue3
      @Menaceblue3 2 года назад +5

      When Michael dressed in the white suit, black shirt getup a while back, that was peak humor
      Now there's Lex playing into the joke as well....
      I can't even....😆😂🤣

    • @philthedrill2244
      @philthedrill2244 2 года назад +4

      "Michael is a simpleton" 😂😂😂

  • @TANGOSVC
    @TANGOSVC 2 года назад +759

    I wish Lex to wear a full adidas tracksuit to his podcast.

    • @samanthaqiu3416
      @samanthaqiu3416 2 года назад +59

      full slav ancap mode

    • @jesuud6870
      @jesuud6870 2 года назад +13

      🤣🤣🤣🤣 I would love that

    • @Myohomoto
      @Myohomoto 2 года назад +30

      Full Gopnik

    • @akbrooks70
      @akbrooks70 2 года назад +36

      I grew up with this guy, his dad immigrated from Yugoslavia and ended up owning a few shrimping boats. Their whole family wore nothing but track suits. Even their cousins came over from Yugoslavia in the early 90’s wore nothing but track suits. It was the funniest shit.

    • @DBFIU
      @DBFIU 2 года назад +5

      Full gopnik!!!!!!!! Do it lex

  • @SecondClassCitizen
    @SecondClassCitizen Год назад +13

    Seeing Malice break down caught me completely off guard. He is always so happy.

  • @LittleOrla
    @LittleOrla 2 года назад +7

    What a beautiful, inspiring conversation. Tears in my eyes and a smile on my face throughout. 💕

  • @petracs1187
    @petracs1187 2 года назад +603

    Michael: “can I curse?”
    Lex: “fuck yes.”

    • @FelixDKatz-tb7or
      @FelixDKatz-tb7or 2 года назад +17

      In his least, but yet still robotic tone.

    • @mentalcasanova6420
      @mentalcasanova6420 2 года назад +46

      You can hear him downloading the vulgarity library.

    • @petracs1187
      @petracs1187 2 года назад +7

      @@mentalcasanova6420 the best reply

    • @NothingHumanisAlientoMe
      @NothingHumanisAlientoMe 2 года назад +10

      @@petracs1187 Neo turn to Morpheus..."I learned the urban dictionary"

    • @sageii5614
      @sageii5614 2 года назад

      Can I speak the truth about Israel?
      Fuck no. What do you think this is? speaking truth to power?

  • @Eyes2theSkies1218
    @Eyes2theSkies1218 2 года назад +287

    “The fuckin robot made me cry.” I legitimately laughed out loud and scared my dog 😂😂

    • @blacksheepdog9810
      @blacksheepdog9810 2 года назад +1

      I wonder if he cried just to be able to say that.

  • @patrickdavidge
    @patrickdavidge Год назад +16

    There is only one word that I can use to describe this excellent interview. “Grounding” 🤝

  • @TheGoodDogTraining
    @TheGoodDogTraining 2 года назад +1

    Thank you for this very special conversation between friends-exchanging ideas and life. 🙏❤️

  • @Omnia-ad-gloriam-dei
    @Omnia-ad-gloriam-dei 2 года назад +429

    I'm watching almost everything from Michael Malice lately.

    • @MrMoonFlame
      @MrMoonFlame 2 года назад +21

      Same here. I really admire his ability to value personal relationships over political beliefs.

    • @southernpoop
      @southernpoop 2 года назад +9

      I find myself doing the same.

    • @abautistajab
      @abautistajab 2 года назад +4

      Same

    • @Reblwitoutacause
      @Reblwitoutacause 2 года назад +2

      One more “same here” from myself.

    • @Phoenix-wy3qi
      @Phoenix-wy3qi 2 года назад +2

      Me too

  • @foxmulder6602
    @foxmulder6602 2 года назад +435

    And I thought the outfit, where Michael was inversed Lex with white suite, couldn't be trumped xD

    • @Xpistos510
      @Xpistos510 2 года назад +16

      Michael Malice is the guy who will buy DLC expansion packs just for the most ridiculous character skins to view in the cutscenes.

    • @Good_Horsey
      @Good_Horsey 2 года назад +7

      Lex is gonna need Alex Jones on for the 300th episode to beat this one.

    • @Xpistos510
      @Xpistos510 2 года назад

      @@Good_Horsey Agreed.

    • @JerseySlayer
      @JerseySlayer 2 года назад +1

      We should petition both wear Power Armor in episode #250. I guess It's acceptable if Michael dresses as Liberty Prime.

  • @Hunorion
    @Hunorion 2 года назад +17

    This intro from Michael has saved my soul so many times. Every time I feel hopeless, I watch it again and I can't really explain this, but it makes life tolerable, even joyful sometimes. Thank you!

  • @danepaulstewart8464
    @danepaulstewart8464 2 года назад +4

    One of the more amazing discussions I have seen between people of this age, possibly ever.

  • @paulpilecki4037
    @paulpilecki4037 2 года назад +244

    "...wtf the robot is the one that makes me cry"
    Couldn't contain myself with that one😂😂😂

  • @jtrich1975
    @jtrich1975 2 года назад +389

    “The robot made me cry.” Classic….

  • @mikejackson8963
    @mikejackson8963 2 года назад +2

    Wish I could finish this... Lex has his moments that are special.

  • @kobun6474
    @kobun6474 Год назад +1

    this is such a fantastic dynamic, I absolutely love you two bantering

  • @kevalnirgun2720
    @kevalnirgun2720 2 года назад +767

    This is like dunccan trussell on joe rogan.

    • @kslanov
      @kslanov 2 года назад +9

      Lmao right!!👏👏👏

    • @sethchyna
      @sethchyna 2 года назад +11

      not at all.... comparing Michael to duncan is kinda strange

    • @HoLeeFuk317
      @HoLeeFuk317 2 года назад +3

      No it's not

    • @bobbluh9651
      @bobbluh9651 2 года назад +2

      Double loving it

    • @AlwaysPeacefulMaDeuce
      @AlwaysPeacefulMaDeuce 2 года назад +7

      But wayyyyyyyyy better!

  • @nem447
    @nem447 2 года назад +415

    I love Lex. He always looks like a robot trying to learn how to feel emotions.
    And those uniforms are crack up!

    • @jlghinis
      @jlghinis 2 года назад +10

      Nah, you should see his speech during ju-jitsu training, the expression and emotive inflection is great. Totally human 😉

    • @raznewman7406
      @raznewman7406 2 года назад +4

      What do you mean “looks like”?
      He is most definitely a robot 🤪😂

    • @mobilegamersunite
      @mobilegamersunite 2 года назад +4

      His genius father built himself a robot son 🤖 😂😆😂

    • @AdamBerke
      @AdamBerke 2 года назад +2

      CRACK UP !!!

  • @socratesrising
    @socratesrising 2 года назад +4

    Lex is not a robot. He's a slow-moving monolith that is so good and making his guests look inward before asking the big questions. Awesome show. A poem for Michael.
    {Let Goodness Rein}
    I breathe in the good like my life-force depends on it
    In a world covered in concrete and hate
    Good is like a defiant flower rising from the cracks of our many prisons
    The eye is cut by a world full of right angles
    Nature is not natural
    And love is built on a series of well thought out conditions
    Each new acquaintance is critiqued beyond acceptability
    and promptly publicly berated for our pride’s personal amusement
    The echo of our anger is a language in song
    That only the ‘One True Choir’ can understand
    Every space is concurred by the socially righteous
    Policed and purified in their own image
    Where good is a clever insult or
    Good is our neighbor’s suffering because the empty soul cries out for their pain
    Good is the destruction of the things we hate
    Even if we only hate them because we hated ourselves first
    In a world searching for the meaning of pain
    Not Life
    Good is the spaces between the raindrops that are easily forgotten
    L E Crane

  • @BaseDeltaZero1972
    @BaseDeltaZero1972 2 года назад +6

    I know very little about Michael, but his humanity shone through here.
    Well worth the time to watch (as always)..

  • @bizarro20daves
    @bizarro20daves 2 года назад +223

    "I've been walking around the house working on my lex impression. I've been leaking motor oil everywhere" lol!

  • @mitch3357
    @mitch3357 2 года назад +419

    That intro is too good!!
    “Michael is an Author, AnnaCast and simpleton.” -

    • @samanthaqiu3416
      @samanthaqiu3416 2 года назад +8

      sorry for the interruption but there is no such thing as annacast OP meant anarchist
      thanks and good afternoon

    • @mitch3357
      @mitch3357 2 года назад +9

      @@samanthaqiu3416 starting to think that he also didn’t mean that Michael is a simpleton 🧐 upon closer inspection THAT WAS Michael.
      Now I’m confused 😝
      ✌️❤️

    • @n.s.3812
      @n.s.3812 2 года назад +5

      Came here literally just to read comments about the intro. But then it gets better!! As soon as it cuts to Lex and Malice, Lex is talking about his love for Animal Farm, and I swear he says it's an "Al Gore-y..." (rather than 'allegory') - Damnit, 30 seconds in and I can't stop laughing

    • @Ayra_Is_Cool_lol
      @Ayra_Is_Cool_lol 2 года назад

      @@mitch3357 lmaoo

    • @deadliestvice5356
      @deadliestvice5356 2 года назад

      It's worrying to think that you made up a word of which you didn't know the meaning.

  • @garywaters6356
    @garywaters6356 Год назад +12

    Woooooooooow. Wonderful honorable podcast. Thank you.

  • @klclose1
    @klclose1 Год назад +5

    This was so fantastic. Thank you.

  • @fretpound
    @fretpound 2 года назад +70

    Michael’s impression of Lex was perfect with the exception of one thing: He did not mention love once in the introduction.

  • @SecretMarsupial
    @SecretMarsupial 2 года назад +273

    Thumbnail made me spit out my drink. First few second had me rolling, this is going to be a great one. Thanks for this gem guys.

    • @malihareza4754
      @malihareza4754 2 года назад +1

      same here man, same here.

    • @lizp5004
      @lizp5004 2 года назад

      Until u get 33:11 🥺🥺🥺

  • @MisSkeeto
    @MisSkeeto Год назад +3

    I love how playful you two are. It's obvious you are both having fun which makes it fun to listen to. Thank you!

  • @rosalapeligrosarojas2063
    @rosalapeligrosarojas2063 Год назад +2

    Great show. Two champions of conversation that matters.

  • @ryanbryzelak8326
    @ryanbryzelak8326 2 года назад +98

    Lex really pulls off the uniform, great look on him.
    Michael looks like a a supervillain in a bond movie.

  • @Xpistos510
    @Xpistos510 2 года назад +85

    This is the greatest thing I've ever seen. I love both Michael Fridman and Lex Malice.

  • @tiffanyclay54
    @tiffanyclay54 Год назад +2

    I will never tire of this episode. Best opening ever.

  • @bilderberg2418
    @bilderberg2418 Год назад +2

    This is an amazing episode,thank you Lex and Michael.

  • @minttjulep
    @minttjulep 2 года назад +251

    The bit about Russia and Ukraine was heart breaking. I’m Ukrainian and Polish. My great grandfather died in Ukraine when a bomb went off on some railroad tracks. So my grandpa and his little sister came to America. He died from a heart attack before I turned 5, and it’s one of my biggest regrets that I could never speak to him about his life.

    • @JK360noscope
      @JK360noscope 2 года назад +24

      Don't worry, if he made it to America, he made it much further than he thought he would at the time.
      Be happy you were able to meet him at all.
      Polish here, this Michael guy being from Lwów is 110km from where my family is from/still are. Was a little too close to home at the beginning of this episode, had to turn it off

    • @MB-yl9hm
      @MB-yl9hm 2 года назад +30

      I'm Polish-Ukrainian, too! Funnily enough part of my Polish side is also from Lvov like Michael, but when it was still part of Poland. When Michael started choking up talking about what his family must have been dealing with during WWII really got to me. I remember when my mother first started explaining to me my heritage and why I don't have grandparents like the other kids and all that. Learning about the horrors that your family has been through when you're a kid is hard, but so necessary. But it's frustrating too, because then you see very clearly the complete ignorance of so many people with regards to history and politics. I love America, I love being an American, but holy shit you can literally tell some people here that half your family was arrested and killed for criticizing the communist party and they'll just look at you like, "Yeah, and what about it?" People here are so spoiled here that they don't even know how good they have it.

    • @jeremyshaffer9200
      @jeremyshaffer9200 2 года назад +2

      My grandmother was a teenager in Germany in WW2..she told my mom she had alot of family die in bomb raids

    • @wilrsjasac
      @wilrsjasac 2 года назад +1

      It’s not regret, just an opportunity lost. I feel the same about my great grandfather on my mother’s side

    • @gar50172
      @gar50172 2 года назад +2

      Good genes on your side hawt damn

  • @teabreezy9522
    @teabreezy9522 2 года назад +208

    Malice: "Can I curse?"
    Fridman: "... Fuck yes"

    • @thes7450
      @thes7450 2 года назад +2

      Haha

    • @Cartersvillain
      @Cartersvillain 2 года назад +7

      Some slight latency on that one - don't worry we have our engineers working on it

  • @vembdev
    @vembdev Год назад +2

    So many great things to learn with these podcasts

  • @fancyshmancy
    @fancyshmancy Год назад

    Haven't watched this one in awhile. Its one of those you learn something new each time

  • @aisharoy3499
    @aisharoy3499 2 года назад +307

    Profound. I was feeling a little depressed but hearing malice talk about how he hates cynicism and there's hope ,made my day a lil brighter

    • @swarajnanda7874
      @swarajnanda7874 2 года назад +7

      Aye, this episode is indeed good.

    • @RenameUranus2Caelus
      @RenameUranus2Caelus 2 года назад +11

      Agreed. Cynicism is the soul-rot that caused my depression. Malice (ironic name 🙃) is, to me, a beacon. Through him, I see a way back from the enveloping blackness of despair. Antidepressants have also helped 😁. I can do nothing but stand in gobsmacked astonishment, and respect what a paragon he remains after *years* of abusive criticism. 👏👊
      These two, where it counts, are beautiful people.

    • @tsoliot5913
      @tsoliot5913 2 года назад +3

      @@RenameUranus2Caelus well done man. I hope you're still making progress. These two stoics are wonderful polarities, and Malice has something properly understood.

    • @godsofohio6734
      @godsofohio6734 2 года назад

      @@stanleysmooth so has optimism

    • @logicalconceptofficial
      @logicalconceptofficial Год назад

      @@RenameUranus2Caelus Logic is the light in the darkness and will lead you away from despair, but only if you faithfully reckon (reason properly and honestly) with this one true God.

  • @aghostanimage
    @aghostanimage 2 года назад +113

    This was probably the best podcast I've seen in a very long time.

  • @fidesedquivide3486
    @fidesedquivide3486 Год назад +1

    One of the best interviews. Love you both.

  • @BuilderLee72
    @BuilderLee72 Год назад

    Watched this podcast after seeing several other Lex/Michael conversations and I will be forever grateful to them both for my newfound education of totalitarianism and communism, and for the empathy and understanding I've gained as a result of their honesty and love.
    Thankyou.

  • @stevemacbr
    @stevemacbr 2 года назад +88

    I laughed,... when Michael laughed.
    I cried,.. when Michael cried.
    And I empathised with Lex,... when he did neither.
    .

  • @theaklair
    @theaklair 2 года назад +71

    Michael being so emotional on WW2 theme and his family on that time got me too. Thanks for honesty.

  • @brainseagle
    @brainseagle Год назад

    Thank you both for your honesty.Lex I find your conversations well worth the time and attention they require.

  • @martefact
    @martefact 2 года назад +5

    This entire conversation describes and explores my childhood experience. The banality of evil is so very very real.

  • @rileyjoseph3488
    @rileyjoseph3488 2 года назад +79

    You two always have the most human conversations and that’s why I love them.

    • @69brazzo
      @69brazzo 2 года назад +1

      The deconstruction of biases in this convo is off the hook!

    • @dirtypure2023
      @dirtypure2023 2 года назад +1

      Is there such thing as... non-human.. conversations?

    • @Aminal92
      @Aminal92 2 года назад

      That’s ironic considering Lex is a robot.

    • @Reblwitoutacause
      @Reblwitoutacause 2 года назад +2

      “A unrelenting Anarchist and a cold Robot walk into a bar...”
      Turns out the punchline is something about them being wonderful friends and inspiring personalities; Truly, two good men worth looking up to.

  • @jalbers3150
    @jalbers3150 2 года назад +347

    Lex: that was a joke michael
    Michael: it was a failed joke
    lmaoooo

  • @sarahrenay341
    @sarahrenay341 Год назад +1

    I've always liked Michael and enjoyed listening to him as a guest on various podcasts, even certain ones that I've went back and listened to again over the years, but listening to this podcast- I truly fell in love. I'm converted. and I will probably be listening to his podcast exclusively for the next week. What an amazing human being. We don't deserve it, but we certainly need more people like him in this world. 🙏

  • @JJL1342
    @JJL1342 Год назад +16

    You two were made for each other. I love this.

  • @SebastianMikulec
    @SebastianMikulec 2 года назад +114

    Any podcast with Lex and Michael is one I 100% want to listen to

  • @Cartersvillain
    @Cartersvillain 2 года назад +39

    "He is one of my closest friends; we've never met."
    As someone who grew up on the forums this statement hit so hard.

  • @iamatlantis1
    @iamatlantis1 Год назад +1

    That was a spot on impression at the beginning. Deserved more recognition

  • @rufusray
    @rufusray 6 месяцев назад

    I love watching the episodes with michael back to back, you guys rock together

  • @ignacius8466
    @ignacius8466 2 года назад +259

    Oh jesus, the first 5 seconds and I'm dying of laughter.

    • @undefinedvariable8085
      @undefinedvariable8085 2 года назад +5

      I started at the thumbnail. Probably the only man that can get Lex out of a suit.

    • @lukecpo
      @lukecpo 2 года назад +2

      Imagine the scene in the dressing room.😅

  • @UsDiYoNa
    @UsDiYoNa 2 года назад +140

    From a guy who rarely laughs, that intro fuckin’ got me 😂

    • @dusanjevtic1961
      @dusanjevtic1961 2 года назад

      Dude same i don't laugh when i am alone(listening to podcasts etc) but the ''I was leaking motor oil'' part i was laughing for 2 min strait.

  • @dasgunt2549
    @dasgunt2549 Год назад

    Awesome conversation - happy, sad, informative, inspiring!! ❤❤

  • @anthonyhewitt9397
    @anthonyhewitt9397 2 года назад +1

    I pass up every intro of lex's but I'm glad I seen this one.

  • @Tylerius87
    @Tylerius87 2 года назад +186

    "the fucking robot is the one that gets me to cry wtf is going on" thats exactly how i felt at the end of terminator 2 when i was 10 years old.

    • @cosmicmuffet1053
      @cosmicmuffet1053 2 года назад +9

      I was going to make a crying joke, but yours was better.

    • @vincentvega8337
      @vincentvega8337 2 года назад +4

      Undefeated comment lol

    • @k.u.m.o.r
      @k.u.m.o.r 2 года назад +5

      You should have seen my 10 years old daughter's face the moment she realised that Arnie also has to die. She never cried so badly, not when she was in pain or anything. Best movie ever

    • @mitchmarvinmartian
      @mitchmarvinmartian 2 года назад +8

      Interesting fact. Arnie kills no one in that movie. If your a kid in the 90's and you see all the 'good guys' killing people left and right then you go through a whole movie with one hero deliberately not, because of a kids command, kinda leaves that capital H Hero impression on you.

    • @galihad1980
      @galihad1980 2 года назад +3

      My 10 yo son cried like a baby when Arnie was saying goodbye. 🤣

  • @joshuastephenward5316
    @joshuastephenward5316 2 года назад +154

    Maybe it's just me but seeing Malice in tears talking about his grandma makes his words freakin' sobering.

    • @tunnelsloth5948
      @tunnelsloth5948 2 года назад +7

      Yeah, I teared up during that part. When Yeonmi said Michael truly cared about the North Korean people during her podcast episode, I certainly believed her, but wondered how one can really tell. Now that I've seen this, I can unmistakably tell that he sincerely empathizes with their suffering and the experience of the gruesome crimes against their humanity to an extent most other Americans don't (currently) seem to.

    • @csglazing6380
      @csglazing6380 2 года назад +6

      Some leftist that think they have it hard because of WORDS need to watch that!!!!!!

    • @olekkuvppl
      @olekkuvppl 2 года назад +3

      Yeah shame that he forgot to mention that Red Army invaded Lvov that supposedly his grandmother lived in just 2 years prior in 1939

  • @Non3MA
    @Non3MA Год назад

    Thank you both - always incredibly thought provoking! Sending appreciation, admiration, peace and love. ☮🥰

  • @lukeanderson6844
    @lukeanderson6844 Год назад +1

    Few things have brought me as much joy lately as Michael malice as the MIB speaking in Lex's dull staccato intro voice. Both of you, thanks for being you

  • @blottoarregato8935
    @blottoarregato8935 2 года назад +43

    Thank you Michael and Lex, for "soldiering" through some pretty tough moments in this podcast. It had depth, beauty, meaning, eternity.

  • @leeluo5228
    @leeluo5228 Год назад

    I love your conversations/podcasts. Stay safe.

  • @susanh326
    @susanh326 Год назад +2

    Your exchange is what's been missing in my life. I've known this depth before, and lost it. Thanks for giving it back to me again.

  • @NathanCassidy721
    @NathanCassidy721 2 года назад +205

    This started out funny, then it got sad.
    Talk about emotional whiplash.

    • @BigDaddyDru
      @BigDaddyDru 2 года назад

      I just started it and laughed my ass off….might turn back now, shit..

    • @BigDaddyDru
      @BigDaddyDru 2 года назад +1

      I’m not going to stop, but I appreciate the heads up.

    • @NathanCassidy721
      @NathanCassidy721 2 года назад +1

      @@BigDaddyDru It's a good podcast.

    • @iamwhoyousayiam6773
      @iamwhoyousayiam6773 2 года назад

      Life

  • @pugetsoundfarmer
    @pugetsoundfarmer 2 года назад +72

    Very intense, emotional, informative conversation. Another reminder how important and essential it is to preserve our freedoms and liberties. We seem to be living in a very pivotal moment and i hope we can preserve what the previous generations gave life and limb to protect.

    • @chrishenderson420
      @chrishenderson420 2 года назад

      Couldn't of said it any better.

    • @chiefslinginbeef3641
      @chiefslinginbeef3641 2 года назад +2

      I hope so....I moved south and brought my family last summer. I hope we can at least turn the ship a little bit, it's looking rough coming from a blue state. It's great now and you really appreciate the difference in freedom. I never thought it was that different but it's very noticable between the states.

  • @dulcemartinez8972
    @dulcemartinez8972 9 месяцев назад

    Watching this interview is a reminder of how much we need to keep one-on-one conversations. Everybody is in pain, everybody has the right to be happy. From a very different culture, this episode has opened my eyes to such a different perspective. Respect!

  • @Travelbythought
    @Travelbythought Год назад +1

    Such a brilliant conversation.

  • @loganculver9058
    @loganculver9058 2 года назад +90

    Had to pause 15 seconds into this just to regain my composure

    • @bradm8529
      @bradm8529 2 года назад +2

      Hahaha, I think that’s everyone here.

  • @brettfromla4055
    @brettfromla4055 2 года назад +61

    “Thank God, this isn’t your life.” - Michael. That would be a great name for a book on totalitarianism.

  • @pulsarecho1952
    @pulsarecho1952 2 года назад +2

    Hilarious intro😂 Lex is a treasure of wisdom.

  • @_middleside
    @_middleside 2 года назад

    Lovely conversation. So invigorating. Great cap off with the Kerouac quote.

  • @graysonhetherington
    @graysonhetherington 2 года назад +352

    “It is the job of thinking people not to be on the side of the executioners” 7:18
    Wow.

    • @oldhouseredux7733
      @oldhouseredux7733 2 года назад +2

      Seriously great.

    • @busfahrer09
      @busfahrer09 2 года назад +11

      But what's wrong with being on the side of the executioners when you're facing communists and cultural-marxists?

    • @busfahrer09
      @busfahrer09 2 года назад +8

      @@ffnovice7 'Communism' is a defined term. You can't just start another blame game and call people NaZiS first and then you'll call them communists as it fits your agenda. I'm no future boomer, I'm 24 and just hate communists and have no problem minecrafting them.

    • @DanielGomez-qg8vd
      @DanielGomez-qg8vd 2 года назад +7

      @@busfahrer09 you really don't understand why it's wrong to execute communists for being communists?

    • @yescommunitiesnorules9623
      @yescommunitiesnorules9623 2 года назад +9

      @@DanielGomez-qg8vdIts not wrong...

  • @SirEmoSushi
    @SirEmoSushi 2 года назад +103

    I've never seen Michael this emotional. This was raw.

    • @krisersn3092
      @krisersn3092 2 года назад

      Hes on cocaine from his book money

    • @Demontoastslayer
      @Demontoastslayer 2 года назад +8

      @@krisersn3092 Yeah hes totally coked up in a 2.5 hour interview, you must not know shit about drugs to think that

    • @ilovetheatf
      @ilovetheatf 2 года назад +3

      @@Demontoastslayer your right, Michael is obviously bumping hard on ketamine.

    • @josephcohen9480
      @josephcohen9480 2 года назад

      He is so happy he finally learned how to drive. He a Texas boi now!

    • @Valkyrie1941
      @Valkyrie1941 2 года назад

      He just try to be hard ball troll on twitter and on his channel. But in reality he's just a pusy ..

  • @victorsavage4638
    @victorsavage4638 Год назад

    thank you so much for this conversation it gives real hope

  • @timothymchugh6232
    @timothymchugh6232 Год назад +2

    I think we need an episode of star track with Lex, the Vulcan and Michael as Q.

  • @myklenero
    @myklenero 2 года назад +52

    Gotta admit, Michael is definitely one of my favorite of the repeat guests. Intro was spot on 😭

  • @FynfromGames
    @FynfromGames 2 года назад +142

    Michael Malice: "Not everyone has souls."
    Nick Cannon: 😃👍

    • @EdoKwin
      @EdoKwin 2 года назад +2

      Top tier comment

    • @ilovetheatf
      @ilovetheatf 2 года назад

      @Ferny Fresh you won't win, good and God will always prevail.

    • @robertconklin
      @robertconklin 2 года назад

      @@EdoKwin hhh

    • @nedyah151
      @nedyah151 2 года назад

      I am a proud sub-human.

  • @christendenise220
    @christendenise220 2 года назад

    33:05 just crying with you all, hung on every word. Thank you guys for all you do.

  • @charlieb8735
    @charlieb8735 2 года назад

    I see why this came into my youtube suggestions. Fantastic episode, one of my favorite of this podcast.

  • @TheTibbott
    @TheTibbott 2 года назад +29

    Watch how Lex and his poetic self can be so quiet and accepting, allowing Michael his emotion, no self-consciousness or embarrassment. Two fellow countrymen who understand something profoundly incomprehensible to many of us. Thank you for allowing me into this conversation.
    🙏

  • @stormbringer_7774
    @stormbringer_7774 2 года назад +84

    I’ve never known starvation.
    This episode humbles me…

    • @randojones2030
      @randojones2030 2 года назад +4

      I know it's not the same in any regard but fasting I believe would help if you so care to.
      I am by no means versed in the practice or science or tradition of fasting but I have experimented with it a few times.
      Longest I have gone was about 3 and a half days with just water.
      It was insightful to see and feel how your mind and body react to extended periods of no calorie intake.

    • @anton7354
      @anton7354 2 года назад +3

      @@randojones2030 I mean no disrespect but starvation is very very different. While fasting it's your own free will and free choice to abstain from food and the suffering is purely physical. But the amount of desperation and fear you experience when you are _forced_ to not eat makes it unbelievably harder.

    • @Xraid32
      @Xraid32 2 года назад +1

      @@randojones2030 Starvation makes your brain think more in the NOW. That's why stealing is common. Your brain has rearranged time priority - short term over long term. But ye as Anton mentioned - that sense of desperation. Honestly, that never leaves you. It's a kind of memory imprint on your mind. Also, your thoughts get more dimmed, and unnecessary ones are silenced.
      Eventually you don't feel hungry per say, you just feel very weak. When you don't recognize your own limbs anymore, that's when there is fear; but, you are so weakened...the thoughts are dull. The brain is in energy saving mode. Then fear of death starts to really rear its head. I don't know what happens after that. Seems to me, some people accept death while others become increasingly afraid and experience shallow breathing & arrhythmia, followed by cardiac arrest.

    • @randojones2030
      @randojones2030 2 года назад +1

      @@anton7354 I agree. That's why I said fasting is in no way like starvation.

    • @anton7354
      @anton7354 2 года назад +1

      @@randojones2030 Yes, I got that. I just wanted to point out that I don't believe fasting is going to prepare you for starvation.

  • @nathanielvillemaire314
    @nathanielvillemaire314 Год назад

    Love the banter between these two

  • @evgeniyabessolitsyna9474
    @evgeniyabessolitsyna9474 Год назад

    3 seconds in and I'm in tears from laughter hahaha Priceless!