that is a very common sentiment parents have about their children's mental health, sadly "when i decided i wanted to have children, it was happy children i wanted. stop being sad"
@Zazco Thats awful, I thought most creators cut ties and weren't promoting it to protect their reputation (respect to the rare few who actually cared for those they made the mistake of promoting it to)
@Toki-np3xj Yeah, no, there are less than before, but still a huge amount of very large creators that still promote BetterHelp. ::( A few reasons that I guess could be why they still do are that... They either forgot (I doubt it), never heard about the issues in the first place (more reasonable), signed a long-term contract before all the shady stuff come out about it, or (most likely in my opinion) just want the money and better help gives them a lot of money. ::)
Anxiety: Everyone's judging me because I'm terrible at everything Depression: dude, why the fuck would anyone even care about you enough to give you a second thought..? Hence why you can't be both depressed and anxious at the same time xD
Literally it's like "mental health is the most important thing in the world, that's why you're a bad person if you don't fix it. All the options are extremely expensive. You're a bad person if you're poor.'
I'm 90% sure I have ADHD, even my psych thinks so and she has it. The problem is diagnoses and getting on treatment is like $1500 I don't have. It feels pretty stupid that the government pays for these "job search cheerleaders" But you can never get the actual support needed. At least I don't live in america.
@blakearius oh that sucks. Diagnosis limbo, people can be so sure they have something, but then the process of getting a diagnosis is so ridiculously expensive.
And at the same time, there’s people who are absolutely unqualified to diagnose serious conditions telling people that completely normal things are symptoms of severe depression and autism and all that, which makes it even harder for people with actual undiagnosed conditions to be taken seriously.
@@blakeariusADHD doesn’t exist. Saved you $1500. This isn’t a joke. You don’t have ADHD. It isn’t real. It’s all in your head. Whatever symptoms you think you have, you don’t. I have them too. Everyone has them. There is nothing about ADHD that isn’t shared with every human on earth. You aren’t special. You don’t need treatment. You don’t need to worry about it anymore. Because it doesn’t exist. ADHD is made up for people to make money off of you. It doesn’t exist. Be free. Be happy. Be you. There’s nothing wrong with you.
@@blakearius I have, but it isn't super bad. I just use coping mechanism and NAC to get by. Works. My medical scientist sis also has this problem and does the same thing. We both agree that we don't want to take the literal drug they give you when you see a doc. Coz it is a type of methamphetamine. It's true, look it up. Not safe in the long run.
Just want to add in a comment about just *how* accurate the "have you tried alcohol" thing was for the 50's. My great grandfather (Who was in both world wars-did NOT have a good time) went to the doctor for shell shock (It was 1000% ptsd), and was literally prescribed alcohol to help with that. Talking to my family, in a shocking twist, it didn't seem to help him very much, though it *did* make him fucking miserable to be around. Things definitely still aren't great regarding mental health, but at least we don't do that any more.
Did you know that back during the great depression when workers were laid off they would resort to alcohol to deal with their problems and because they would drink so much their tolerances would go up so they would have to resort to harder alcohols like vodka, whiskey etc to get drunk. When they would have these drinks people would say "oh trying to raise your spirits huh?" And that's why today we refer to hard alcohols as spirits
@@Cupoforangejuice15 this just... Isn't true? Unless that's meant to be a joke? The term comes from middle eastern alchemy and imported into Europe / European alchemy. Referring to the vapour given off and collected in processes such as distillation - which was called the "spirit" of the original material. Like essence, soul, etc. Also spirit is a much more common term in the UK, compared to Liqour in the US.
@@totallycarbon2106 yeah it's fully a lie. I like telling it at parties to see how many people I fool. Thanks for letting me know about the true origins though! I never knew that!
"Have you tried therapy?" "Yes but therapy is not a replacement for necessary mutual aid relationships that can be as simple as two peers giving each other the space to share honestly about their lives." "Let's stop talking about it and repost TikToks by therapy influencers who only talk generically about our problems instead."
Like, I totally get the sentiment behind "leave it to the professionals" but if you genuinely care about someone it'll show. Edit: for anyone who's struggling trying to be there for their friend: know that you are your first responsibility, you can't help someone if you can't help yourself. Take a walk or go look at the sky, if you haven't today.
Therapy is for losers and people who don’t have family or friends that they trust. There is nothing, absolutely nothing, that a therapist can tell you that someone in your life that you trust can’t. Here’s what everyone’s chain of command for seeking advice should be: 1. Yourself 2. Your spouse/SO 3. Your parents 4. Your siblings 5. Additional family that you may trust 6. Your friends 7. Random people 8. Only THEN, if I don’t trust any of those people first, would I go to a therapist.
@@vappyreon1176 If you have a problem with your family, you should discuss it with your family only. If you have a problem in your relationship, you should discuss it with your partner only. You shouldn’t ever go to someone else to complain about problems in your family, relationships, or friendships, and seek to validate your position. You shouldn’t even talk and vent with friends if you have a problem with your family or relationship. Let alone paying someone which is even worse.
Jokes aside, I'm personally biased because Better"Help" fucked me up real bad both financially AND mentally when I was in a really low spot in my life. So no matter how many times I see people dunk on that scam of a service I will never get tired of it.
BetterHelp doesnt even fucking vet their "therapists" and will hire literally anyone if they speak clear english. Theres a video (thats been delisted due to a pending lawsuit) Where a youtuber posed as someone else snd applied
People badmouth betterhelp all the time, but I for one had a good experience with them. The meals are always fresh, and yeah, they may be a bit expensive, but it's cheaper than eating out all the time.
The modern mental health situation feels like hanging onto a ledge with every fibre of strength you have, praying and hoping that you can muster up the strength to just hold on for one more day or even just a little longer. Then some bozo comes along and says “Oh no, you definitely need some help. I recommend seeking it right away.” Then they just walk away, leaving you to your fate.
People are aware of mental health's importance now; however, they're still lacking in the aftercare department. That in a lot of cases you need to follow up with that person.
@@qwerty975 Meanwhile therapy nowadays is like paying somebody to tell you the same thing you could've just gotten from a Google search result. It's fucking sad.
To be fair, many people don't even realize they need help and having someone else point it out can help them take the first steps toward recovery. But if you're already aware of your problems, it's unhelpful.
This video is a perfect commentary on today's society. When most people say 'mental health is important🥺' its only as important as the veneration they expect to recieve for uttering such a statement.
I do think while many things have a performative nature, it would be disingenuous to assume that’s always the reason. We’re at a point where it’s becoming normalized but we’re still coming off the heels of decades or repression. Some people do genuinely need to be told their feelings matter because they aren’t terminally online or part of circles that would discuss it. Getting help is where the issues start to arise.
even more sadly is that people who say "mental health is important" only mean some mental health is important. basically if your coping mechanisms arent the society approved coping mechanisms or "cute disorders" you're on your own
Your comment sections are generally hilariously sarcastic but I did want to acknowledge and thank you for not making your skits “shorts” despite their length. It makes engaging with your channel more specific and intentional rather than being tempted to a wheel of crap.
What's the point. You carry thing up a hill. Then thing rolls down hill. Then you walk to bottom of hill and start carrying thing back up hill. And the cycle never stops.
one must imagine chopping wood and carrying water while happy. if you don't you must not have very good control of your imagination. let's stop talking about it.
"I'm not fine we accept I'm lying because that would involve both of us having to confront problems better left unspoken. It's not that we can't talk honestly, it's that talking is counterproductive since we can't do anything thing else about it."
"We've made great advancements in mental health advocacy and awarness, and improved the attituted towards mental health disscusion" The advancements and improvements in question:
@@rkrkrk999 RUclips selects words that they might think you would search up, the weird thing is that it searches on youtube and not Google. (Also it is way too sensitive)
It's insane how accurate this is, I can't speak for 1950's but I've definitely received an incredible amount of "lets stop talking about it" when one conversation can't solve the issue
Damn I love how true this is, I once got blocked by someone for saying I have always been too poor for therapy rip, 24 and I'm a perma shut in loner, people say it's important but no one really cares still
I think most people don't care because there isn't anything they can do about you being depressed. While there is a few things they can do to help, most of it is things you have to do yourself.
That's what you get for having health problems, how dare you be poor and also need help. /S because the two previous comments on this thread probably would think I wasn't joking.
@@BladedEdge Since you seem to think what I said was blaming the poster, what can you do to help a depressed person? Genuinely want to know. I've been depressed before and everytime I try to think about what I might say to my past self that would actually break through the self hatred, nothing comes to mind. Becoming depressed again is a huge fear of mine, I am always checking in on myself to avoid that.
@@bluemark25 Just listen to them. Don't try to think you're some kind of hero that can solve their problems with words or actions. Just listen to them, it's all a therapist does 90% of the time anyway - they're just qualified to ask the right questions. Ask people 'how' they feel not 'why', get them to talk. You're not going to solve their problems, sometimes they might not be able to either, some things are unsolvable. Do little things for the person to help them out. Most importantly: If they don't to talk or want your help, do not give it to them. It's not that they don't like you, but their feelings may be sensitive. You may have already lost their trust in these matters, they may not feel comfortable talking to you about it - and that's okay! Just continue treating them as best you can, just try to make life a little easier for them. Make them tea, help change their sheets, whatever. Source: I have chronic depression that's been with me my whole life and comes in phases. I've been to therapy multiple times. I 'beat' depression when I was at my lowest point and planning on doing *things*. Still depressed, but no longer in that state. It all came from within, however what helped was my family & friends just being there for me. Just showing me love and not trying to 'fix' the problems. It was enough to keep me going.
It sounds like a joke, but that's pretty much what I've read of him sums to. The Enchiridion is probably the most harrowingly barren text that I've ever had to put into my brain.
To be fair, the "Happiness is a choice." thing does have some truth to it. It's just weirdly worded in a way that makes people want to slap people who say it.
@@LagMasterSam The tough thing is that it's much easier to take control of your mind from a position of good mental health. The brain evolved to be really damn good at learning, but unfortunately, it's not just good at learning useful stuff; it's also great at learning completely pointless stuff like how to be depressed. Depression is a particularly nasty mental state because the attendant apathy actively works against any effort to unlearn the depressive mental states so that they can be replaced with healthier ones. Of course, if you're depressed and reading this, remember that you _can_ unlearn it. Like any hard thing, all it takes is one small step at a time.
I hate betterhelp ads so much because it's so messed up to hear a creator say something like "mental health is so important guys" while ADVERTIZING A SERVICE they were PAID TO PROMOTE. It blows my mind how dystopian that stuff is. I feel like I can't take someone seriously after they advertize it
“Why don’t you think about how i feel for once? It’s always about YOU!” -my mom after i went through life-altering trauma that left me with diagnosed PTSD and talked to her about it
HOLY FUCK THANKYOU. I'm not depressed anymore but was when I was in HS, and the lack of understanding that I lacked options really made it suck to talk to anyone about it. Especially as a minor, a lot of options for your mental health are completely out of your control and you're just expected to raw-dog it while also encountering the regular day-to-day issues as a highschooler or smthn. People actually empathetic to your situation helps a tonnnn
I, too, like to pretend I care much about important topics when in reality I only care a little and give up when it gets hard to commit to it. But let's stop talking about it
its funny because compared to other mental illnesses it feels like depression and anxiety are the only ones people want to acknowledge, especially not those scary personality disorders that "make you a monster."
If you're one of those folks with a personality disorder, please know that there are so many people out there who would support you. They're a minority, but you're not alone. I've been diagnosed with depression, generalized anxiety, insomnia, and ADHD, all relatively socially acceptable disorders that have nonetheless left me feeling broken all my life. There's a certain solidarity that often forms between folks with profound disorders of all kinds. Most of us have thoroughly researched ourselves and our issues, and we know better than anyone how messy and nuanced these things are. We know we should do our research and give all folks the benefit of the doubt when they come to us with a condition we're largely ignorant about. For whatever it's worth from some random internet stranger, I'm in your corner. I'll be here if you want to talk or rant if you need it.
Used to be, no one have a shit if you were depressed because nobody believed it was a real thing. Now, no one gives a shit if you're depressed because everyone and their mother claims to be depressed.
It is not because more people are claiming to be depressed. Rather, people are not taught how to really help someone with it beyond exchanging pleasantries and giving obvious advice. They are afraid of messing up, so they opt to not get too involved and do just enough to calm their consciousness.
I was chatting with someone online one time, and they decided based on some stuff that I said that I was depressed. They then proceeded to tell me multiple times to go get therapy and that I absolutely needed to go get therapy. I tried to explain that I don't meet the criteria of depression, but this person was so incredibly insistent that I had to be depressed and need therapy. I just don't get it. Unless it's for a specific mental issue, I have a hard time believing that therapy is better than just being able to have an honest conversation with someone else.
It's not "Claiming" to be depressed, it's straight up everyone. The society we live in is shit and human connection is becoming increasingly more rare; of course depression's going to get infinitely more common. I'm like, the only person in my friend group NOT to have any severe mental health issues, maybe don't act like it's all pretend if you don't actually know shit about it
@cruncyart It's both. Depression is a disability that afflicts countless people, and there are also narcissists and opportunists who use it as a way to garner attention/sympathy from others (exploiting the fact that it isn't visible). Edit: I would be remiss if I didn't point out that the ignorance and arrogance of your last sentence is astonishing yet _adorable_ after your assertion that "straight up everyone" suffers from depression.
The problem is that to deal with issues like these, to actually have a positive consequence, you need to have a shred of empathy or sympathy. Empathy, as in the ability to understand and feel what they're feeling, is overvalued - it is treated as the default "good to have" relationship quality. As a consequence, because people struggle to empathise with chronic depression, anxiety, OCD, bipolar, personality disorders or suicidal thoughts if they've not had similar, they then believe they're not ready to talk about it or be useful, and will instead say to go to a specialist. Which is usually a terrible thing to say if you really think about it - please have your recovery off-screen and when you're ready, we can then re-enage. Generally speaking, I'd rather people had more sympathy, the ability to care and feel compassion for others even if they don't feel the same. I might not know what my friends feel when they're undergoing a break-up, or being fired, or being gaslit by a coworker - but I can still be there for them. Eat together. Watch some stuff. Listen. It's honestly better to just treat it the same - I wouldn't want someone to be empathetic to depression, that'd be useless and unpleasant. The people who say, "let's stop talking about it" seem to have missed both empathy and sympathy, making them especially pointless. It's hard to forget later.
Too much emphasis on talk therapy. In the end, it's about people like you willing to be there. I saw a comic a while ago. A person approaches someone noticing they look sad. He asks if they want to talk, they said no, so he just sat down with him. Sitting here reason through these comments and typing this one now. I would rather be in a silence with some who cares, versus typing to strangers while I'm alone in my apartment. At least I'm fed.
Especially when you're actively in a crisis, the fact you might need professional help EVENTUALLY is something you're likely already aware of- but in that moment all you want is to survive the crisis without being alone / having your loved ones freeze you out because you aren't 'getting help' right now as your world collapses. Ask them what is happening, not what are they doing to fix it- you have to take more steps to escape the eye of the storm than that. Hand in hand.
yeah...this is why when i was depressed i didn't tell anyone. i just reigned myself in and fought my brain at every turn to try and live a half decent life. i don't remember what i thought that fixed it but i did and i've been trying to get out ahead of any more depressive spirals ever since. i didn't tell anyone because i knew that they wouldn't have anything to say that i hadn't already seen elsewhere. when you're depressed everyone around you is lying to you, at least that's what you think. so the only voice you can trust is your own and you've just got to fake it til you make it, tell yourself positive stuff that you believe is false until you actually believe it.
how did you know you were depressed if you didn’t tell anyone Just curious cuz if you had a bunch of symptoms and there weren’t any other disorders or mental health stuff that could be mistaken I get it. It’s just lots of people lie
@@jgsgamergfdgfdgfd1137 at that time in life i had heard enough about depression symptoms via the internet. I had a combination of wanting to sleep more than normal, not wanting to really do anything new and fun or even productive like my school work, i also for the first time in my life was genuinely considering ending it. everything just felt sluggish and like there wasn't a point in any of it. i kept doing everything i was doing just to keep the habits and schedules but it all just sucked. this was back in early highschool when i was also discovering that i'm prone to anxiety attacks but well before i connected the dots that i'm neurodivergent(not mood based disorders). so i guess it's possible that something in those created a perfect storm to make me feel like shit for months on end, but at the time depression seemed like it was the reason. i didn't have many close friends at the time in my physical vicinity and if i told my mom i wanted to die i knew she wouldn't like that or really know what to do about it so i just said nothing. i'd also talked a few friends out of killing themselves at that point so i also knew how stressful hearing that was and how little power it felt you could have outside of saying "please no". Having been on the other side of those conversations really just taught me that speaking up was bad because i knew what i'd say to myself and i didn't want to burden or concern anyone with it. I think i just got out of it out of a frustration of feeling like shit and mentally beating up my anxiety and depression, that time also led to a mental separation between me and "my brain" so...did i "cure" it for good? probably not, but i stopped wanting to die and haven't felt that level of shit since so i consider that a success. i still should go to therapy someday, but that's for other reasons.
@@jgsgamergfdgfdgfd1137 See, that immediate impulse to accuse people of lying or being mistaken or just because you have the symptoms of depression doesn't mean you're depressed how ridiculous that you would dare to assess yourself, as the person actually experiencing the emotions and mental state, instead of paying someone else money to asses you. That's why a lot of people with depression don't tell people that they have depression.
@ I didn’t accuse you? I just wanted to make sure you weren’t seeking attention, and I know you are and I really wish you can get better sometime, and you can’t go around explaining to me stuff as if I’m some 3 year old who has no concept of life and death. I know what depression is, but the resurface in many people faking it for attention has made me wary of whether to actually support people or not. And also, I said symptoms as an example. You could have also said your emotional state but it’s fine you didn’t have to. And yeah I understand that last part, in fact I had depression and still do but I didn’t even believe it myself. You’re the one throwing accusations at me atp, and I’m sorry that I had to doubt you having depression, and I also understand that the people faking it are part of the reason why others don’t say it. But still. Now can we just end this?
A lot of people need to realize it's possible to recover from mental illness without the help of therapy. You need to build a support system (friends or family) and learn ways to cope in a healthy way. Eventually, life will become more manageable along with the illness or stress you suffer from. I'm saying this as someone that has dealt with mental illnesses for much of my life and have gone to several therapists in the past. They aren't magic, they only steer you in the right direction. The one doing all the work is you.
"Have you tried turning it off and back on again?" has solved so many problems that it is genuinely the first thing I try when I run into an issue, so I agree with the other guy when I say it's more like "Have you tried kicking it?"
My maternal grandfather was on the Russian side of the siege of Leningrad in WWII. When I was a kid, he was already in his eighties, but he remembered a lot of stuff. For example red fireworks freaked him out, I remember one time on New Year’s he saw a bunch of red fireworks and a celebratory bonfire. His first instinct was to drop down, crawl into his study and pull out the rifle he kept in the safe.. it’s only after he heard that people weren’t speaking German that he realized what was going on. He hugged me, told me he was sorry.
"I'm depressed." "Sounds like we don't understand depression." "That doesn't help. me" " Well shit, I tried, man." "What type of try was that?" He shrugs it off and then walks.
People are most scared when forced to look inward and see themselves. Most indignant when required to question not just the narrative of the world around them but of their own narrative as well.
"It's when you don't feel things and you're happy about it" I was just thinking "I don't think that's what it is" and then man carried the words right out of my mouth
All therapy is a scam. People need friends and family that they trust. Not a random person who has a degree in feelings that is trying to sell you something. Someone that you can trust and is looking out for you will give you the help you need. ALL therapists have an incentive to not help you, because then they get more money. You shouldn’t have to pay someone to help you. That’s what family is for. That’s what friends are for. Get more of those. Don’t be a loser.
This was how it was for me too. Every time I try to reach out to doctors about my mental health they almost immediately try to get me into medication. It's rather annoying.
One of my friends was a therapist with BetterHelp and after she quit, a stranger turned up at her house. The woman thought my friend was a therapist for this third party they sold her info to, and listed her house as her business location instead of indicating she was online-only. Thankfully the woman was just as confused and appalled as my friend was, but this could’ve been so bad. TL;DR Thank you for the BetterBurn
"You need Therapy" is a sentence said by the modern everydayman- which in a startingly ironic twist of translation error- on the part of various examples of material and moral substitution throughout history reads: "I want you to be more tolerable and don't know how to suggest this without sounding intolerable myself, so feigning kindness and care by suggesting the general foundation of one method of medical practice I personally have no understanding of is the most I can say- also if you refuse I will ensure you feel terrible for not agreeing with everything I personally believe about psychology"
That is true- it gets confusing when you are in the position of constantly needing to affirm to people of your willingness to participate in therapy while they become steadily fixated on other's lack of wellbeing rather than a genuine concern for debilitating circumstances or their own wellbeing for that matter
My former employers at the British civil service were always keen to promote Mental Health Awareness Week - I sure was aware of my mental health working there, let me tell you
"Could a factor against my mental health be the capitalist hell in which I live that doesn't care about me as a person beyond the data I give and the work I do? Where I'm forced to contribute to the machine that's killing our planet and trying to rot my brain or be cast aside as waste to die? That I have to pay money to get better so I can go back to working myself to exhaustion... and then keep going because burnout isn't taken seriously? Could it be that we, or at least I, am not meant to live this way and that is leading to a lot of problems in society or at least my own health?" "Nah, couldn't be. You just need to buy these pills and spend most of your pay to come in every week so I can tell you how you're a failure while also saying "it'll get better" knowing full well it wont! It's not society that's wrong. It's you that's wrong."
We often forget that psychology is not meant to be the only solution, for healing the individual can only do so much when the environment remains unchanged. We need Sociology and Social Work as well, people who understand society, and can work alongside the ones who know the individual struggles of people, so as we help others to heal, they get to come back to a world that's also healing with them, or at least giving them the space they would need to do so.
Are you suggesting a person's mood may be affected by their material conditions? How absurd! Sounds like commie propaganda. It's you who are the problem. But don't worry, my new subscription service Hapi will fix you for the low price of 29.99 per month.
"I'm depressed." "Nothing bad even happened to you. You have no reason to be depressed." "That's…not how depression wo-" "Let's stop talking about it."
I grew up very stoic as I hid my feelings more and more But I learned to unearth my feelings, address them, and process them For my stoic friends reading this: it's ok to be sad for a while. It gets better.
Thank you for the call out on stoicism. If I had a quarter for everytime I've unsubscribed from a RUclips channel for constantly prescribing stoicism as the answer to everything, I certainly wouldn't be rich, but I could buy a decent lunch from a vending machine.
"Just try to be happy and look at the positives, if it doesn't work, just fake it till you make it" That was the response to me telling someone that I have been living most of my life ignoring my problems and masking my behaviors, so people don't realize I am not doing well.
Nothing says "I TOTALLY care about you but don't want to take any sort of burden or inconvenience for you" more than "Have you tried therapy?". Right there on the same level as "thoughts and prayers".
Understanding why and how you get depressed is the first step, healing from your past and changing how you move through life is the fundamentals of stopping the cycle.
The 1950s one could have also gone something like:
"I'm depressed."
"Have you considered going to war?"
"Let's take a piece of brain out"
the russian government rn
"Have you considered taking it out on your wife?"
Don't have time to feel sad when you're feeling the exhilarating rush of nearly dying every day!
“I’m depressed.”
“Here, have a steak and doughnut sandwich with cigarettes on top.”
“That actually made me feel a little better.”
"I love you and I want you to stop telling me that you're depressed because it makes me sad." - My mom
Relatable fr fr
that is a very common sentiment parents have about their children's mental health, sadly
"when i decided i wanted to have children, it was happy children i wanted. stop being sad"
Let's stop talking about it.
Stone cold.
Let's stop talking about it.
Love the BetterHelp callout, absolutely hate that scam and how many people promoted it without caring
Promote*
They never stopped promoting it.
and now there's a new wave of people bring sponsored by it
@Zazco Thats awful, I thought most creators cut ties and weren't promoting it to protect their reputation (respect to the rare few who actually cared for those they made the mistake of promoting it to)
@Toki-np3xj Yeah, no, there are less than before, but still a huge amount of very large creators that still promote BetterHelp. ::(
A few reasons that I guess could be why they still do are that... They either forgot (I doubt it), never heard about the issues in the first place (more reasonable), signed a long-term contract before all the shady stuff come out about it, or (most likely in my opinion) just want the money and better help gives them a lot of money. ::)
How is it a scam, just out of interest?
The 5 stages of grief:
1) Let's
2) Stop
3) Talking
4) About
5) It
Pennywise is sad
@@paugirones6083 Let’s stop talking about it
Brilliant
I am currently at stage "Stop".
Right😂
"I'm depressed"
"Have you tried being anxious instead?"
Yes!
@@rbarreira2 but have you tried being anxious as well ?
Great now I’m anxious but also depressed
¿Por qué no los dos?
Anxiety: Everyone's judging me because I'm terrible at everything
Depression: dude, why the fuck would anyone even care about you enough to give you a second thought..?
Hence why you can't be both depressed and anxious at the same time xD
Literally it's like "mental health is the most important thing in the world, that's why you're a bad person if you don't fix it. All the options are extremely expensive. You're a bad person if you're poor.'
I'm 90% sure I have ADHD, even my psych thinks so and she has it. The problem is diagnoses and getting on treatment is like $1500 I don't have. It feels pretty stupid that the government pays for these "job search cheerleaders" But you can never get the actual support needed. At least I don't live in america.
@blakearius oh that sucks. Diagnosis limbo, people can be so sure they have something, but then the process of getting a diagnosis is so ridiculously expensive.
And at the same time, there’s people who are absolutely unqualified to diagnose serious conditions telling people that completely normal things are symptoms of severe depression and autism and all that, which makes it even harder for people with actual undiagnosed conditions to be taken seriously.
@@blakeariusADHD doesn’t exist. Saved you $1500. This isn’t a joke. You don’t have ADHD. It isn’t real. It’s all in your head. Whatever symptoms you think you have, you don’t. I have them too. Everyone has them. There is nothing about ADHD that isn’t shared with every human on earth. You aren’t special. You don’t need treatment. You don’t need to worry about it anymore. Because it doesn’t exist. ADHD is made up for people to make money off of you. It doesn’t exist. Be free. Be happy. Be you. There’s nothing wrong with you.
@@blakearius I have, but it isn't super bad. I just use coping mechanism and NAC to get by. Works. My medical scientist sis also has this problem and does the same thing. We both agree that we don't want to take the literal drug they give you when you see a doc. Coz it is a type of methamphetamine. It's true, look it up. Not safe in the long run.
"Just be yourself"
"No, not like that"
Average advice for men
@joshwilner5622 Let's stop talking about it.
@@madidason3574 Let’s stop talking about it
It actually should be: "be the best version of yourself". Because sometimes you're a piece of sh... and you actually need to change.
Yes yourself is suck
0:25 ngl you scared me for a moment
you really think he's gonna get a sponsor on a 49 second long video?
PTSD got triggered
Man Carrying Paycheck
@112VZ I mean ProZD pulls it off?
@@joshuasgameplays9850Man Carrying Scam
Maybe the real better help was the depression we made along the way
With a side of honey
Let's stop talking about it
this meme is never not funny. maybe the real meme was the funny along the way. Did i do it right?
Great
@@danny8063Be careful not to overuse it. Wouldn't want to ruin an eternally funny meme.
Just want to add in a comment about just *how* accurate the "have you tried alcohol" thing was for the 50's.
My great grandfather (Who was in both world wars-did NOT have a good time) went to the doctor for shell shock (It was 1000% ptsd), and was literally prescribed alcohol to help with that.
Talking to my family, in a shocking twist, it didn't seem to help him very much, though it *did* make him fucking miserable to be around.
Things definitely still aren't great regarding mental health, but at least we don't do that any more.
Did you know that back during the great depression when workers were laid off they would resort to alcohol to deal with their problems and because they would drink so much their tolerances would go up so they would have to resort to harder alcohols like vodka, whiskey etc to get drunk. When they would have these drinks people would say "oh trying to raise your spirits huh?" And that's why today we refer to hard alcohols as spirits
@@Cupoforangejuice15 this just... Isn't true? Unless that's meant to be a joke? The term comes from middle eastern alchemy and imported into Europe / European alchemy. Referring to the vapour given off and collected in processes such as distillation - which was called the "spirit" of the original material. Like essence, soul, etc. Also spirit is a much more common term in the UK, compared to Liqour in the US.
@@totallycarbon2106 yeah it's fully a lie. I like telling it at parties to see how many people I fool. Thanks for letting me know about the true origins though! I never knew that!
@@Cupoforangejuice15 there is some truth in that as well probably. that people said it for that reason. nice catch
@@totallycarbon2106Middle Eastern alchemy? Lol, that's not even a real thing.
"Have you tried therapy?"
"Yes but therapy is not a replacement for necessary mutual aid relationships that can be as simple as two peers giving each other the space to share honestly about their lives."
"Let's stop talking about it and repost TikToks by therapy influencers who only talk generically about our problems instead."
For profit therapy is gross, and altruistic therapy, or "friends" as I have heard they're called, is some nonexistent unicorn.
Like, I totally get the sentiment behind "leave it to the professionals" but if you genuinely care about someone it'll show.
Edit: for anyone who's struggling trying to be there for their friend: know that you are your first responsibility, you can't help someone if you can't help yourself. Take a walk or go look at the sky, if you haven't today.
@@planescapednot a fan of therapy, but "friends" are definitely not a substitute for therapy if you actually need one.
Therapy is for losers and people who don’t have family or friends that they trust. There is nothing, absolutely nothing, that a therapist can tell you that someone in your life that you trust can’t. Here’s what everyone’s chain of command for seeking advice should be:
1. Yourself
2. Your spouse/SO
3. Your parents
4. Your siblings
5. Additional family that you may trust
6. Your friends
7. Random people
8. Only THEN, if I don’t trust any of those people first, would I go to a therapist.
@@vappyreon1176 If you have a problem with your family, you should discuss it with your family only. If you have a problem in your relationship, you should discuss it with your partner only. You shouldn’t ever go to someone else to complain about problems in your family, relationships, or friendships, and seek to validate your position. You shouldn’t even talk and vent with friends if you have a problem with your family or relationship. Let alone paying someone which is even worse.
Man carrying immense emotional baggage
eMOTIONAl BAGGAGE!
Let's stop talking about it
Man carrying Steven He
Cue "emotional damage" meme
@@CathrineMacNiel Made me read it in Steven's voice.
Jokes aside, I'm personally biased because Better"Help" fucked me up real bad both financially AND mentally when I was in a really low spot in my life. So no matter how many times I see people dunk on that scam of a service I will never get tired of it.
I see more people promoting it. I was watching Dave Coulier's Full House podcast and he promoted and I was like "nooooo, they got Joey too!"
BetterHelp doesnt even fucking vet their "therapists" and will hire literally anyone if they speak clear english.
Theres a video (thats been delisted due to a pending lawsuit)
Where a youtuber posed as someone else snd applied
You should listen to the comic Tim Dillon. There’s plenty of times he’s talk shit about that on his podcast. It’s hilarious.
People badmouth betterhelp all the time, but I for one had a good experience with them. The meals are always fresh, and yeah, they may be a bit expensive, but it's cheaper than eating out all the time.
Had me in the first half
This is so fucking funny
Oohhh 😂😂😂 bastard, you...
I've been playing it F2P for three years and am at Lvl 237 no regrets.
Plus, you can protect your location from anywhere in the world and get 10% off every check out when you buy a tree in Scotland.
The modern mental health situation feels like hanging onto a ledge with every fibre of strength you have, praying and hoping that you can muster up the strength to just hold on for one more day or even just a little longer. Then some bozo comes along and says “Oh no, you definitely need some help. I recommend seeking it right away.” Then they just walk away, leaving you to your fate.
People are aware of mental health's importance now; however, they're still lacking in the aftercare department. That in a lot of cases you need to follow up with that person.
"Have you tried therapy?"
@@qwerty975 Meanwhile therapy nowadays is like paying somebody to tell you the same thing you could've just gotten from a Google search result. It's fucking sad.
More like "Long live the ID"
*snap*
To be fair, many people don't even realize they need help and having someone else point it out can help them take the first steps toward recovery. But if you're already aware of your problems, it's unhelpful.
I think we should stop talking about it
What?
@Pro0Active Let's stop talking about it.
I'm pretty sure we should stop talking about it.
@HellfireJerk What?
@@mandsx8197 What?
This video is a perfect commentary on today's society. When most people say 'mental health is important🥺' its only as important as the veneration they expect to recieve for uttering such a statement.
I do think while many things have a performative nature, it would be disingenuous to assume that’s always the reason.
We’re at a point where it’s becoming normalized but we’re still coming off the heels of decades or repression.
Some people do genuinely need to be told their feelings matter because they aren’t terminally online or part of circles that would discuss it.
Getting help is where the issues start to arise.
@@AnimatedTerror Social media is inherently performative and it is changing people's brains
I thought mental health was only important to american politicians explaining why they don't want to pass any gun control laws.
even more sadly is that people who say "mental health is important" only mean some mental health is important. basically if your coping mechanisms arent the society approved coping mechanisms or "cute disorders" you're on your own
We care about your mental health unless it’s anything beyond mild anxiety/depression
I used to think drinking was bad so i stopped thinking
alcohol pilled and reverse tolerance maxing
Only alcoholics quit drinking, so I'm gonna keep drinking lest people think I'm an alcoholic.
Your comment sections are generally hilariously sarcastic but I did want to acknowledge and thank you for not making your skits “shorts” despite their length. It makes engaging with your channel more specific and intentional rather than being tempted to a wheel of crap.
Yes I back this 1000%
“I’m depressed”
“Have you tried Carrying Thing?”
What's the point. You carry thing up a hill. Then thing rolls down hill. Then you walk to bottom of hill and start carrying thing back up hill. And the cycle never stops.
One must imagine man carrying thing happy
Nah pushing 🅿️ is where its at.
(I still dont know what it means)
@@brightwafi1291 Pretty sure it has something to do with male genitalia
one must imagine chopping wood and carrying water while happy.
if you don't you must not have very good control of your imagination.
let's stop talking about it.
“It sounds like you aren’t willing to get better” …Man. That hits hard… really hard.
There's a comfort in finding something all generations have in common.
Let's stop talking about it.
“I’m fine.” -Then
“I’m fine.” -Now
Then: "Let's stop talking about it"
Now: "Let's stop talking about it"
I like your persistence.
@@Salsa_Shark Persistence reveals the path.
"I'm not fine
we accept I'm lying because that would involve both of us having to confront problems better left unspoken. It's not that we can't talk honestly, it's that talking is counterproductive since we can't do anything thing else about it."
@@Salsa_Shark Persistence reveals the path.
DON'T THINK ABOUT IT
*GLaDOS voice* "don't think abour it don't think about it don't think about it don't think about it"
I like your persistence.
YOUVE GOT THE JOB
@@zbsfm Let's stop talking about it.
Buzzword central over here
I accept the position @@zbsfm
I've dated three therapists. Either they have a type, or I do.
How does that make you feel ;)
?
Porque no los dos?
I can fix them types?
I'd imagine the last thing a therapist would want to do is talk about feelings since that's what they do all day.
"We've made great advancements in mental health advocacy and awarness, and improved the attituted towards mental health disscusion"
The advancements and improvements in question:
Whoever is saying that clearly hasn't seen the rate at which people are getting canadian healthcare.
Thumbs up for the better help call out. Scam artists preying on the downtrodden
Why is the word "thumbs" highlighted in blue
@@rkrkrk999Bad RUclips "feature."
@@rkrkrk999RUclips’s latest useless feature where you can tap certain words in the comments and search videos for them
@@rkrkrk999 RUclips selects words that they might think you would search up, the weird thing is that it searches on youtube and not Google. (Also it is way too sensitive)
@@cobwebblocks ...Thumbs?
Let's talk about mental health but only as far as we can commodify it and weaponize it against actual accountability ❤️🤗
I deadass have a Better Help ad underneath this video, im dying thinking that this is when it decides to show up
It's insane how accurate this is, I can't speak for 1950's but I've definitely received an incredible amount of "lets stop talking about it" when one conversation can't solve the issue
Damn I love how true this is, I once got blocked by someone for saying I have always been too poor for therapy rip, 24 and I'm a perma shut in loner, people say it's important but no one really cares still
Okay but like why were you messaging someone online telling them you're too poor for therapy?
And you could just go outside, like, right now.
I think most people don't care because there isn't anything they can do about you being depressed. While there is a few things they can do to help, most of it is things you have to do yourself.
That's what you get for having health problems, how dare you be poor and also need help.
/S because the two previous comments on this thread probably would think I wasn't joking.
@@BladedEdge Since you seem to think what I said was blaming the poster, what can you do to help a depressed person? Genuinely want to know.
I've been depressed before and everytime I try to think about what I might say to my past self that would actually break through the self hatred, nothing comes to mind. Becoming depressed again is a huge fear of mine, I am always checking in on myself to avoid that.
@@bluemark25 Just listen to them. Don't try to think you're some kind of hero that can solve their problems with words or actions. Just listen to them, it's all a therapist does 90% of the time anyway - they're just qualified to ask the right questions. Ask people 'how' they feel not 'why', get them to talk. You're not going to solve their problems, sometimes they might not be able to either, some things are unsolvable. Do little things for the person to help them out. Most importantly: If they don't to talk or want your help, do not give it to them. It's not that they don't like you, but their feelings may be sensitive. You may have already lost their trust in these matters, they may not feel comfortable talking to you about it - and that's okay! Just continue treating them as best you can, just try to make life a little easier for them. Make them tea, help change their sheets, whatever.
Source: I have chronic depression that's been with me my whole life and comes in phases. I've been to therapy multiple times. I 'beat' depression when I was at my lowest point and planning on doing *things*. Still depressed, but no longer in that state. It all came from within, however what helped was my family & friends just being there for me. Just showing me love and not trying to 'fix' the problems. It was enough to keep me going.
Are you sad? Just be happy instead!
- Epictetus
It sounds like a joke, but that's pretty much what I've read of him sums to. The Enchiridion is probably the most harrowingly barren text that I've ever had to put into my brain.
@@MMurine No matter how difficult it is, you ultimately have to take control of your own mind. There's really no way around it.
To be fair, the "Happiness is a choice." thing does have some truth to it. It's just weirdly worded in a way that makes people want to slap people who say it.
@@LagMasterSam well yeah but if my body says I'm hungry I'm hungry. Whether or not you worry about it doesn't change how bad your situation is.
@@LagMasterSam The tough thing is that it's much easier to take control of your mind from a position of good mental health.
The brain evolved to be really damn good at learning, but unfortunately, it's not just good at learning useful stuff; it's also great at learning completely pointless stuff like how to be depressed. Depression is a particularly nasty mental state because the attendant apathy actively works against any effort to unlearn the depressive mental states so that they can be replaced with healthier ones.
Of course, if you're depressed and reading this, remember that you _can_ unlearn it. Like any hard thing, all it takes is one small step at a time.
I hate betterhelp ads so much because it's so messed up to hear a creator say something like "mental health is so important guys" while ADVERTIZING A SERVICE they were PAID TO PROMOTE. It blows my mind how dystopian that stuff is. I feel like I can't take someone seriously after they advertize it
"it's when you don't feel things, but you're happy about it" 😅😅😅
“Why don’t you think about how i feel for once? It’s always about YOU!” -my mom after i went through life-altering trauma that left me with diagnosed PTSD and talked to her about it
I hope you can distance yourself from her as much as possible 😅
Yeah, that's not right.
Seeing this after some idiot commented "just talk to your family" is vindicating af.
Hope she's out of your life now.
Sounds like she was going through some shit herself, but was just a lot better at hiding it
Maybe your mom needed some help too? U should've asked her how SHE'S doing!
HOLY FUCK THANKYOU. I'm not depressed anymore but was when I was in HS, and the lack of understanding that I lacked options really made it suck to talk to anyone about it. Especially as a minor, a lot of options for your mental health are completely out of your control and you're just expected to raw-dog it while also encountering the regular day-to-day issues as a highschooler or smthn. People actually empathetic to your situation helps a tonnnn
I, too, like to pretend I care much about important topics when in reality I only care a little and give up when it gets hard to commit to it. But let's stop talking about it
You're so healthy. I wish I could just stop talking about it, like you 😊
That's just how it is sometimes, sadly
@@vincee32 'thats how it is' 😀 is good advice. Just be happy.
I wonder how many people clicked off of this video when they saw “BetterHelp” lmao
Or had that plugin skip ahead 🤣
that's like a quicktime event honestly. are you able to click off the video before he immediately makes it clear this is a callout
@@RobKaiser_SQuest The plugin hasn't tagged it because it's not an actual sponsor, it's actually people that tag it, which is very pleasant!
The best treatment for depression is community. Our society can't provide that, but it *can* provide season 2 of Community on dvd
its funny because compared to other mental illnesses it feels like depression and anxiety are the only ones people want to acknowledge, especially not those scary personality disorders that "make you a monster."
If you're one of those folks with a personality disorder, please know that there are so many people out there who would support you. They're a minority, but you're not alone. I've been diagnosed with depression, generalized anxiety, insomnia, and ADHD, all relatively socially acceptable disorders that have nonetheless left me feeling broken all my life. There's a certain solidarity that often forms between folks with profound disorders of all kinds. Most of us have thoroughly researched ourselves and our issues, and we know better than anyone how messy and nuanced these things are. We know we should do our research and give all folks the benefit of the doubt when they come to us with a condition we're largely ignorant about. For whatever it's worth from some random internet stranger, I'm in your corner. I'll be here if you want to talk or rant if you need it.
Used to be, no one have a shit if you were depressed because nobody believed it was a real thing. Now, no one gives a shit if you're depressed because everyone and their mother claims to be depressed.
It is not because more people are claiming to be depressed. Rather, people are not taught how to really help someone with it beyond exchanging pleasantries and giving obvious advice. They are afraid of messing up, so they opt to not get too involved and do just enough to calm their consciousness.
I was chatting with someone online one time, and they decided based on some stuff that I said that I was depressed. They then proceeded to tell me multiple times to go get therapy and that I absolutely needed to go get therapy. I tried to explain that I don't meet the criteria of depression, but this person was so incredibly insistent that I had to be depressed and need therapy. I just don't get it. Unless it's for a specific mental issue, I have a hard time believing that therapy is better than just being able to have an honest conversation with someone else.
It's not "Claiming" to be depressed, it's straight up everyone. The society we live in is shit and human connection is becoming increasingly more rare; of course depression's going to get infinitely more common. I'm like, the only person in my friend group NOT to have any severe mental health issues, maybe don't act like it's all pretend if you don't actually know shit about it
@cruncyart It's both. Depression is a disability that afflicts countless people, and there are also narcissists and opportunists who use it as a way to garner attention/sympathy from others (exploiting the fact that it isn't visible).
Edit: I would be remiss if I didn't point out that the ignorance and arrogance of your last sentence is astonishing yet _adorable_ after your assertion that "straight up everyone" suffers from depression.
@@Disgruntled_Grunt It was hyperbole, as someone who doesn't have depression, not everyone has depression.
It's amazing that you managed to convince Ed Kemper to appear in your video in such a short period of time. The absolute legend, he never misses
You could say he’s aHEAD above the others. Or a CUT above
The problem is that to deal with issues like these, to actually have a positive consequence, you need to have a shred of empathy or sympathy. Empathy, as in the ability to understand and feel what they're feeling, is overvalued - it is treated as the default "good to have" relationship quality. As a consequence, because people struggle to empathise with chronic depression, anxiety, OCD, bipolar, personality disorders or suicidal thoughts if they've not had similar, they then believe they're not ready to talk about it or be useful, and will instead say to go to a specialist. Which is usually a terrible thing to say if you really think about it - please have your recovery off-screen and when you're ready, we can then re-enage.
Generally speaking, I'd rather people had more sympathy, the ability to care and feel compassion for others even if they don't feel the same. I might not know what my friends feel when they're undergoing a break-up, or being fired, or being gaslit by a coworker - but I can still be there for them. Eat together. Watch some stuff. Listen. It's honestly better to just treat it the same - I wouldn't want someone to be empathetic to depression, that'd be useless and unpleasant.
The people who say, "let's stop talking about it" seem to have missed both empathy and sympathy, making them especially pointless. It's hard to forget later.
Too much emphasis on talk therapy. In the end, it's about people like you willing to be there.
I saw a comic a while ago. A person approaches someone noticing they look sad. He asks if they want to talk, they said no, so he just sat down with him.
Sitting here reason through these comments and typing this one now. I would rather be in a silence with some who cares, versus typing to strangers while I'm alone in my apartment. At least I'm fed.
Especially when you're actively in a crisis, the fact you might need professional help EVENTUALLY is something you're likely already aware of- but in that moment all you want is to survive the crisis without being alone / having your loved ones freeze you out because you aren't 'getting help' right now as your world collapses. Ask them what is happening, not what are they doing to fix it- you have to take more steps to escape the eye of the storm than that. Hand in hand.
yeah...this is why when i was depressed i didn't tell anyone. i just reigned myself in and fought my brain at every turn to try and live a half decent life. i don't remember what i thought that fixed it but i did and i've been trying to get out ahead of any more depressive spirals ever since. i didn't tell anyone because i knew that they wouldn't have anything to say that i hadn't already seen elsewhere. when you're depressed everyone around you is lying to you, at least that's what you think. so the only voice you can trust is your own and you've just got to fake it til you make it, tell yourself positive stuff that you believe is false until you actually believe it.
how did you know you were depressed if you didn’t tell anyone
Just curious cuz if you had a bunch of symptoms and there weren’t any other disorders or mental health stuff that could be mistaken I get it. It’s just lots of people lie
@@jgsgamergfdgfdgfd1137 at that time in life i had heard enough about depression symptoms via the internet. I had a combination of wanting to sleep more than normal, not wanting to really do anything new and fun or even productive like my school work, i also for the first time in my life was genuinely considering ending it. everything just felt sluggish and like there wasn't a point in any of it. i kept doing everything i was doing just to keep the habits and schedules but it all just sucked. this was back in early highschool when i was also discovering that i'm prone to anxiety attacks but well before i connected the dots that i'm neurodivergent(not mood based disorders). so i guess it's possible that something in those created a perfect storm to make me feel like shit for months on end, but at the time depression seemed like it was the reason. i didn't have many close friends at the time in my physical vicinity and if i told my mom i wanted to die i knew she wouldn't like that or really know what to do about it so i just said nothing. i'd also talked a few friends out of killing themselves at that point so i also knew how stressful hearing that was and how little power it felt you could have outside of saying "please no". Having been on the other side of those conversations really just taught me that speaking up was bad because i knew what i'd say to myself and i didn't want to burden or concern anyone with it. I think i just got out of it out of a frustration of feeling like shit and mentally beating up my anxiety and depression, that time also led to a mental separation between me and "my brain" so...did i "cure" it for good? probably not, but i stopped wanting to die and haven't felt that level of shit since so i consider that a success. i still should go to therapy someday, but that's for other reasons.
@@jgsgamergfdgfdgfd1137 "how did you know you were depressed" mate... what?
@@jgsgamergfdgfdgfd1137 See, that immediate impulse to accuse people of lying or being mistaken or just because you have the symptoms of depression doesn't mean you're depressed how ridiculous that you would dare to assess yourself, as the person actually experiencing the emotions and mental state, instead of paying someone else money to asses you. That's why a lot of people with depression don't tell people that they have depression.
@ I didn’t accuse you? I just wanted to make sure you weren’t seeking attention, and I know you are and I really wish you can get better sometime, and you can’t go around explaining to me stuff as if I’m some 3 year old who has no concept of life and death. I know what depression is, but the resurface in many people faking it for attention has made me wary of whether to actually support people or not. And also, I said symptoms as an example. You could have also said your emotional state but it’s fine you didn’t have to. And yeah I understand that last part, in fact I had depression and still do but I didn’t even believe it myself. You’re the one throwing accusations at me atp, and I’m sorry that I had to doubt you having depression, and I also understand that the people faking it are part of the reason why others don’t say it. But still. Now can we just end this?
A lot of people need to realize it's possible to recover from mental illness without the help of therapy. You need to build a support system (friends or family) and learn ways to cope in a healthy way. Eventually, life will become more manageable along with the illness or stress you suffer from. I'm saying this as someone that has dealt with mental illnesses for much of my life and have gone to several therapists in the past. They aren't magic, they only steer you in the right direction. The one doing all the work is you.
We are recovering from mental illness through sheer power of a middle finger
This man is living in life, the real one
“Have you tried being an alcoholic yet?” is the “Have you tried turning it off and back on again?” of mental health management.
Except when turning it back on you hold the switch in the middle so it shorts out and you can start to smell and hear it breaking more 😂😂😂
Except second option sometimes actually work
It's more like "have you tried kicking it?"
"Have you tried turning it off and back on again?" has solved so many problems that it is genuinely the first thing I try when I run into an issue, so I agree with the other guy when I say it's more like "Have you tried kicking it?"
you know, ketamine in high enough doses has been shown to turn your brain off and back on again
When I’m depressed I comment on Man’s videos
Oh!
oh...
Type stuff
"On this channel: 100+ comments / ❤ 121 received"
Wait but you always comment on Man's vide- oh.
Stop commenting then. There, fixed your depression.
My maternal grandfather was on the Russian side of the siege of Leningrad in WWII. When I was a kid, he was already in his eighties, but he remembered a lot of stuff. For example red fireworks freaked him out, I remember one time on New Year’s he saw a bunch of red fireworks and a celebratory bonfire. His first instinct was to drop down, crawl into his study and pull out the rifle he kept in the safe.. it’s only after he heard that people weren’t speaking German that he realized what was going on. He hugged me, told me he was sorry.
"I'm depressed."
"Sounds like we don't understand depression."
"That doesn't help. me"
" Well shit, I tried, man."
"What type of try was that?" He shrugs it off and then walks.
Have you tried not wearing these ridiculous ties?
Man Carrying Depression
Literally
Both were pretty accurate without playing off the other. Nice how you didn't just make them opposite.
50'solutions don't work today either, being an alcoholic is also expensive
People are most scared when forced to look inward and see themselves. Most indignant when required to question not just the narrative of the world around them but of their own narrative as well.
"It's when you don't feel things and you're happy about it"
I was just thinking "I don't think that's what it is" and then man carried the words right out of my mouth
God mental health support has gotten so much better since the 50s, now we remind people they have friends as well as telling them not to be depressed.
Even when they don’t have friends! :)
at least we stopped doing lobotomies
@@GillfigGarstang Gotta shift responsibility somehow :D
It's literally just that people seem to avoid me as soon as I open up, so I started getting better alone, and stoped talking about it.
Damn called BetterHelp out
Stopped watching several channels that still take sponsorships from them, don't understand why anyone still does.
To be fair, it's a very difficult and complex issue that is hard to address
Holy shit! Is Man Carrying Thing putting 2025 as the current year in his skits to make them more easily relatable for a longer period of time?
This was therapeutic for me on so many levels. Thank you!
I remember trying therapy one time, they just ended up trying to persuade me into buying some medication when I just wanted help.
you can ask for a different therapist if the first one sucks it often takes a few people to find someone that works for you
All therapy is a scam. People need friends and family that they trust. Not a random person who has a degree in feelings that is trying to sell you something. Someone that you can trust and is looking out for you will give you the help you need. ALL therapists have an incentive to not help you, because then they get more money. You shouldn’t have to pay someone to help you. That’s what family is for. That’s what friends are for. Get more of those. Don’t be a loser.
This was how it was for me too. Every time I try to reach out to doctors about my mental health they almost immediately try to get me into medication. It's rather annoying.
obligatory i like your persistence
One of my friends was a therapist with BetterHelp and after she quit, a stranger turned up at her house. The woman thought my friend was a therapist for this third party they sold her info to, and listed her house as her business location instead of indicating she was online-only. Thankfully the woman was just as confused and appalled as my friend was, but this could’ve been so bad.
TL;DR
Thank you for the BetterBurn
"You need Therapy" is a sentence said by the modern everydayman- which in a startingly ironic twist of translation error- on the part of various examples of material and moral substitution throughout history reads: "I want you to be more tolerable and don't know how to suggest this without sounding intolerable myself, so feigning kindness and care by suggesting the general foundation of one method of medical practice I personally have no understanding of is the most I can say- also if you refuse I will ensure you feel terrible for not agreeing with everything I personally believe about psychology"
The people who protest against therapy the most need it the most in my experience.
That is true- it gets confusing when you are in the position of constantly needing to affirm to people of your willingness to participate in therapy while they become steadily fixated on other's lack of wellbeing rather than a genuine concern for debilitating circumstances or their own wellbeing for that matter
So painfully true that it makes me want to cry.
I'm really proud of humanities ability to come full-circle with our views on depression
My former employers at the British civil service were always keen to promote Mental Health Awareness Week - I sure was aware of my mental health working there, let me tell you
This was the first video of yours that made me cry.
"Could a factor against my mental health be the capitalist hell in which I live that doesn't care about me as a person beyond the data I give and the work I do? Where I'm forced to contribute to the machine that's killing our planet and trying to rot my brain or be cast aside as waste to die? That I have to pay money to get better so I can go back to working myself to exhaustion... and then keep going because burnout isn't taken seriously? Could it be that we, or at least I, am not meant to live this way and that is leading to a lot of problems in society or at least my own health?"
"Nah, couldn't be. You just need to buy these pills and spend most of your pay to come in every week so I can tell you how you're a failure while also saying "it'll get better" knowing full well it wont! It's not society that's wrong. It's you that's wrong."
Sshhhh, mental health is always a personal problem. Society is just a collection of individual logical agents after all ;-).
We often forget that psychology is not meant to be the only solution, for healing the individual can only do so much when the environment remains unchanged. We need Sociology and Social Work as well, people who understand society, and can work alongside the ones who know the individual struggles of people, so as we help others to heal, they get to come back to a world that's also healing with them, or at least giving them the space they would need to do so.
rest in power, Mark Fisher
Are you suggesting a person's mood may be affected by their material conditions? How absurd! Sounds like commie propaganda. It's you who are the problem. But don't worry, my new subscription service Hapi will fix you for the low price of 29.99 per month.
"I'm depressed."
"Nothing bad even happened to you. You have no reason to be depressed."
"That's…not how depression wo-"
"Let's stop talking about it."
Congrats on the betterhelp sponsorship
Man Posting Video as I'm fighting a depressive state. Man Cheering Me Up
Maybe 70 more years from now we'll develop newer and better ways to stop talking about it
I grew up very stoic as I hid my feelings more and more
But I learned to unearth my feelings, address them, and process them
For my stoic friends reading this: it's ok to be sad for a while. It gets better.
"i'm depressed"
"damn, that sucks. have you tried talking to someone who's being paid to care?"
This actually cheered me up. Thanks.
Thank you for the call out on stoicism. If I had a quarter for everytime I've unsubscribed from a RUclips channel for constantly prescribing stoicism as the answer to everything, I certainly wouldn't be rich, but I could buy a decent lunch from a vending machine.
When you say “let’s stop talking about it,” I gotta say.
I like your persistence.
man carrying... a lot right now
"Just try to be happy and look at the positives, if it doesn't work, just fake it till you make it" That was the response to me telling someone that I have been living most of my life ignoring my problems and masking my behaviors, so people don't realize I am not doing well.
Depression in 2100:
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Let's stop talking about it
Hahaha this is so accurate, I'm kind of happy how you could portray that so well :)
Nothing says "I TOTALLY care about you but don't want to take any sort of burden or inconvenience for you" more than "Have you tried therapy?". Right there on the same level as "thoughts and prayers".
I downvoted as soon as I heard BetterHelp, then fixed it to an upvote 5 seconds later. Thanks for calling out the scam!
I honestly thought you where gonna say “I love your persistence” at one point
"I'm depressed,"
"Have you considered a therapy?"
"Medical insurance won't cover it"
He never talks about depression, the absolute legend.
Great work Mr. Thing
You really didn't take a parental break! Your dedication is inspiring
This is how MCT will have the mental health talk with his son in 15 years
As someone who was depressed, All I had to do was stop talking about it and now I'm cured.
The more things change the more things stay the same.
Understanding why and how you get depressed is the first step, healing from your past and changing how you move through life is the fundamentals of stopping the cycle.
Thank you for this Christmas gift
“Let’s stop talking about it”
I like your persistence
betterhelp callout is so based. i saw futurecanoe take one the other day and instantly unsubbed. you a real one.
Thank you Man Carrying Thing for consistently making me depressed with your videos since the 1950s!
I can’t believe man made a time machine just to film this skit