Honey vs Rooting Powder: A Propagation Trial
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- Опубликовано: 11 окт 2019
- I'll test honey as a rooting agent in this quick (and small) propagation trial of roses by cuttings. Honey is known for its anti-fungal properties, so it's supposed to protect the cuttings while they strike roots. But can it compete with commercial powder with actual rooting hormone? I'll also discuss a few other "folk" methods to consider instead rooting powder or liquid.
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It is rare to find something so thoughtfully and diligently done on RUclips. Thank you very much for the objective information.
Thanks Prakash. I'm happy you found it useful
I watched this video and was very pleased to see someone,... ANYONE doing anything resembling an actual imperical trial of basic "internet rumors". I then searched the rest of RUclips to see if there was anyone else that was attempting to do any objective, transparent studies that were similar. There were none.
You have won the internet for me today. The next time I visit Canada, I'd seriously like to meet you.
I found at least one, but agree that it's great to find these videos that show actual testing.
I love beekeeping, my bees, and the amazing honey they make. It tastes wonderful. But I find the claims made for honey a tad fantastical at times.
I'm with you - great stuff, but let's not make a snake oil out of it.
I love using honey.
I had much success with it on my lemon tree cuttings.
And i hate having to wear gloves using the powder.
Thanks Jason for a very detailed video about the various methods for rooting 😊
This video was extremely helpful! Thank you so much for your time and effort. Excellent work.
Thanks Jason, that was great to watch!
Thank God finally somebody made a real comparison of different types of propagation. Again I'm very straightforward an excellently done video. A true professional.
Thanks Robert. I really appreciate the feedback
I use willow water, I keep willow branches in a bucket of water outside , I stick cuttings in with them and let them sit until I see root growth, I also water my cuttings with willow tea water. works really well for rooting tree cuttings and roses.
Thanks. Good to hear about your success.
I use willow chips in my garden. For 25 dollars a bag, it really improves any soil. Just using "wood chips" is OK, if you know what kind of chips. Some wood chips are not so good for the garden. Cedar for example, will stop growth, before it helps. Glad to hear I'm not the only one that loves willow, and it's uses.
@Tiger Cub I till them in and under. My rainfall is less then 7 inches a year. The thing about willow is that it has lots of little micro places to hold water. Straw is actually high in cellulose and if you shred it up it makes for good compost. If you have cactus around that is problematic, sundry all the moisture out of it, then burn off the spines as best as possible, then run through the chipper. Till that into the soil as well. I don't know the nutrients value, but it holds water like a sponge, and creates benefits for the soil micro systems. Good luck.
Not to mention cannabis clones, works everytime
@@asbe0180 well they will pretty much root with just the acidity in your spit
Fraser gardens, thank you for tutorial on rooting and four different types of methods
Spoiler alert, don't bother with honey.
MVP.. saved me 2 mins
Maunster!
Thanks .
@@lyndadale6255, you're welcome.
Maunster! 🐝😂
Yeah didn't work for me lol
Thanks Jason , tried this before with nil success ! Went back to the powder and much greater success. Thanks for showing this.
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And thanks for sharing your results too Graham
This is a very useful video. Thank you; I appreciate your effort.
From London, Thankyou for the very valuable video it has cleared my mind about it.
Thankyou again
Brilliant - thank you so much for this 😃
Honey does work. Honey mixed with cinnamon powder and aloe vera works perfectly for cuttings.
I will try it on.
super helpful especially the list of home remedies thank you!
You're the best! Thanks for excellent info 🍁🍂👍🏽
Decent video , Thanks ! You can also dip in Aloe or new growth willow shredded and let soak in water to make a willow tea rooting hormone !
This was very helpful. Thank you.
Cool experiment ! Thanks for the video.
Great video Fraser - 1st time watcher - very helpful - have very old orange trees (2) that are just amazing - immense flavour, no pips (seeds) - not easy-peel but that doesn't matter. Once new wood shows I will go rooting powder all the way and possibly do some air layering.
Thanks - and good luck with your propagation!
I was looking for which rooting to use. I will try the powder rooting! 😊 thank you so much for doing this experiment for us. 👍🏼
My pleasure Arianna
Will give it a try. Happy dipping
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How did it go ?
So scientific and useful! Thanks a lot
Great video thank you very much for sharing ! I’m very new to this and will give it a go :)
Great presentation, sir, well done.
excellent trial. thanks.
Thank you for following up!
Thank you, great information
This video was of much help to me, have tried planting roses but have failed three times, will try with the rooting hormone and see what comes out of that , thanks so much
You bet Rodah. I hope you have good success with your cuttings
Thank you, I was wondering if it really made a difference if you used these things or not!
I loved your experiment. I didn't give much credit to "rooting hormones" such as rooting powder and I had heard the other "alternatives" as well and because they are commonly grouped together and the others sounded far fetched, I had disregarded rooting hormones as well. but thanks to your proof of concept experiment, I am now a believer in rooting hormones.i will be buying some shortly after going through some of your videos to see what your personal preference or recommendation is for which one to get. thank you.
Ive seen a few experiments on RUclips but clonex is amazing for rooting .it worked out well about 7 out of ten cuttings took well shoots of roots .clonex
Rooting hormones are essentially all natural. They work because they are the same hormones that plants use already. We were simply able to isolate and synthesize them. Plants also synthesize these chemicals, but likely through different pathways because chemistry isn't easy. But at the end if the day, a lab synthesized molecule is identical to a plant synthesized molecule, or it would be a failed synthesis.
Nice. Btw, I was amazed at how bravely you just pull out stalks with torns o_o.
Thanks. Lots of practice!
Since the Rootone/Rooting powder always comes off so easily I've done two things: dip cutting first in honey then the powder, or make a diluted solution of SUPERthrive and dip into it first then the rooting powder. Both seem to work better than only the powder.
Great video! Thanks!
My experience is aloe vera is extremely good for rooting and cloning
And heat pad excellerated process
Agreed on heating pad. I haven't tried aloe, but thanks for sharing your experience.
Great vid bro
Great video... again. Really learned a lot already on your channel. Thank you so much for your work!
Willow Water beats all other things I tried, in initial rooting AND growing more and stronger roots, that´s my experience, with all kind of ornamental plants, trees and herbs. It sure does if you measure it in Bucks paid.
I don`t really measure the ratio, I take what ever container I have, fill it up with soft bark peeled off the wood, till it is full, not pressing down. Water to the top. Leave it for 24-48 h. Not longer and no lid on the container!
Put the cuttings in it, one or two nodes deep, over night, then plant it next day. Dilute the rest 1:1 and water other plants with it.
Works all year, but best in spring when the Willows start growing.
Thanks Olaf for good info on willow water - I have loads of willows in my winter garden, so I may have to try your recipe in spring!
Great video
really with honey great message to us
I rooted a lot of hydrangeas and crape Myrtle last month now all I see is roots! I’m happy with honey. I’m hoping the air layering I made with rooting hormone will be successful!
Fantastic results! Great job
Thank you so much!!
Thank you
I have massive callus growth even in 1 month, but I plant it in early spring.
Thank you for doing this video. I'd love to see you do the same with aloe, cinnamon and aspirin. Thank you.
Hi I did the honey with potato it was a disaster.. I don't think I did it right so I want to see how yours grow!! Can't wait to see the difference!!!
Hi Jennifer. I tried the potato thing too, and it turned out poorly vs. potting soil. Here's the vid: ruclips.net/video/DK2BqAMSxyc/видео.html The final results on the honey cuttings were significantly worse than with rooting hormone - nearly 100% with powder to only 30% with honey.
Fantastic, I'll give it a go, thanks for sharing 🌴🌿🌱☘🍃✅
Fantastic presentation thanks for the information. Maggie Australia
thanks for taking the time to make this, which rooting powder do you recommend?, there is so much to choose from
Look for a concentration of IBA around 0.3 or 0.4% I use Stim Root in Canada, but in the US you might look for Hormodin #2
Excellent and very useful video. Thank you! Can you provide links to the rooting powder and rooting solution you used.
Thanks. Check my Amazon store. I'll link it below the video. I have Dip n Grow listed, plus Hormex #8 should be equivalent to the Stim Root I used (which is more a Canadian thing, I think)
Thank you for this video, I have been debating about this subject as i am going to buy an expensive black rose and i will be taking cuttings to grow others and keep my garden looking great.
Thank you very much
Looks to me like the ones left alone (control), were even farther along than the ones dipped in honey.
True. I hit the end of the season (cold weather) a bit prematurely, and honey turned out to have the lowest survival rate.
Thanks so much.
Thanks, really enjoyed this. Simple yet informative. I have almost 100% success with roses not using anything , however, likely not as quick to establish as using rooting hormone now that I see your results. I have tried bottom heat but, unlike other plants, roses do healthier without it.
Not to impose but the same experiment would be interesting with a more temperamental plant like clematis.
Thank Tom for the comments and suggestion. I'm glad I'm not the only one who loves tinkering with propagation.
People, use your brain, don’t use anything else to judge this, this is only a display of the experience on using 4 type of ways to propagate cuttings. Be WISE and FAIR please.
Open mind with healthy skepticism 👍🏼
FYI, using willow for rooting works best when you use the willow shoots, as the growth hormone is more concentrated it the green young parts. I use willow chips all other my garden because my soil is Sandy, with lots of clay under the glacier till. Willow chips are cheap for what befits I get from them. Happy gardening.
Thanks - very helpful.
Very nice and educational video
I'm sure that you water the soil first but how much water did give and also did you water them during the 3 weeks and if did how much water did you give
Would love to see an Aloe Vera comparison video to rooting hornobe and honey.
Thanks. I'll keep it in mind for future comparisons.
I was typing the same thing.
I always used aloe-vera and it does the job. I never tried honey but will give it a go.
Informative video
Like from India
I never had any luck with either but I have had 100% success rate using liquid kelp and peat pods.
Neat! Thanks.
I just subscribed, you are so smart. Can the same method be used on a Hinoki Cypress?
Good video bud
Thanks Kenneth
What time of year winer or springtime and did you use a heat mat or just leave it thanks good video
Spring or early summer would be best - but I did this in fall, with dropping temps on an unheated bench (thus the shock-and-drop of foliage!). If I'm fortunate with the weather, a fair amount will still lightly root before winter - but the ones with rooting hormone are way ahead.
Good to know.
Did you extend this trial? It would be interesting to see if slower caught up later.
Putting your firewood against a building is a great way to get termites in your structure, that is unless you have an all metal studs and non wood sheathing....
Thanks for the warning
Glad it was helpful, thanks for the great video and great info!
Thanks for the great video.
My pleasure. Thanks for watching.
I tried everything possible trying to propagate hydrangea and other plants, but no success. I tried rooting hormone, cinnamon powder, and yes even honey. What am I doing wrong. Please help!
Golden Pothos ( Epipremnum aureum ) is quite popular for rooting in water.
Thanks Rhys. I'll look it up.
Yes! Also Coleus
Willow water works really well for me. Just leave willow leaves and sticks in a bucket of water for a few days. Stick your cuttings into the same bucket and leave for an hour or so. Then plant, and keep watering with willow water.. FREE
Thanks for the great video. You've answered some questions but I have more. I'd like to root some cuttings off of my Japanese Cedar Tree. Got any suggestions as to when would be the best time to take cuttings and should the cuttings be of the soft wood or hard wood? Thanks again.
Cryptomeria? Soft active growth during the growing season.
@@FraserValleyRoseFarm Thanks!
I've learned to use small pieces of Aloe Vera and have had great results. I'm attempting to try the Honey experiment now myself. Let you know how it goes.
You bet - always fun to experiment!
I've heard of willow "tea" but never of honey used to root cuttings.
What is the best successfully rooting powder for most cuttings / Seedlings much appreciated
Interesting as I just yesterday made 6 Rose cuttings (twice 3 different roses). I stuck a 5 cm piece of a soft willow branch which a smashed a bit close to (1 cm) each rose cutting. Never tried it before, I have previously use rooting powder. So this is of course an experiment without comparing with rooting powder. Previously I tried honey and it didn’t work at all. I’ll be back in approximately 8 weeks with the results.
Thanks Erik. Looking forward to it!
Fraser Valley Rose Farm . I only got 2 small plats of willow😩
Try Willow as a rooting agent next plzzz
Also coconut water and mycorrhizae are good
Honey can and is often adulterated. Also there are so many kinds of honey. Id still try it though.
@Victor Yatall It has to be raw, unfiltered honey and Ceylon cinnamon for best health benefit, so maybe that combo for rooting too … I’m curious to try it now.
Wow!
What would you recommend for rooting food & edible crops, such as grape cuttings, fruit tree cuttings, vegetables or culinary herbs?
I have no problem recommending rooting hormone powder with IBA. It's a naturally occurring hormone. If you're an organic purist, it might be willow water instead.
Apple cider vinegar, a drop or two in gallon of drinking water.and cinnamon on the cutting.I use drinking water because is better for the cuttings.
I've only ever regrow one plant unsure of name, it was a ground spreader and placed it it a small milk bottle with water on my window cill in doors, kept it in there for 6-8 weeks and needed to cut the plastic bottle away as there was loads if roots and it was plain rap water 🤔
Thanks Kathy. Love when propagation is that easy!
Real natural bee honey of high quality should have a rooting effect thru the bees enzymes in the spit, your own spit is great to give enzymes to plants aswell i usually use nothing and just my spit for a while on the cut over part and down in wet soil
Extremely interesting and informative… What soil do you use for testing?
In this case, I think it was a composted bark-based mix.
Good video +1
I hope you will consider doing this again and including cinnamon. I've always used it as rooting hormone, but have never had anything to compare it to and now I'm curious how well it would do in this test. Great video!
Thanks... I'll put it on my list!
@@FraserValleyRoseFarm Yay! thanks!
I have opted for a mixture of honey and rooting powder. Today is day one. Let's see what happens after 15 days.
@@OgnjenMali awesome ... Initially had planned for one plant, has 8 for backup, ended up distributing to neighbours.
Great video Jason! I love experiments like this! My only question is whether not dipping the stems for 5 seconds as suggested by the manufacturer made any difference since dip-n-grow is much more concentrated than regular rooting power...?
Thanks moxee33 - and I caught that too, but only after I turned off the camera. I slowed down and gave the Dip-n-grow cuttings 5 seconds each before sticking the remainder (and even re-dipped the ones I did super fast). As you saw in the results, they'll just a little behind the one stuck with Stim-Root.
@@FraserValleyRoseFarm I too use dip-n-grow, but I usually dip 5-10 cuttings at a time. Makes it go much faster!!!
You bet! I also should have been pausing for 3 to 5 seconds in the solution - I realized afterwards how fast I was going, and went back to correct.
Why exactly do they have to be rooted for winter? Im just doing small indoor batches at home... is it a Temperature thing?
Also do the cuttings need a lot of daylight? Ive just been able to get my hands on some 1% iba powder and its much better than clonex which seems to weak.
I guess im still too impatient though because ive been pulling them out almost daily to check for kallus?
Do you think thats harmfull to roots growing at all? Have you had rose varieties that didnt root at all or veeeery diffult?
My best survival rate for overwintering plants is when they'll well rooted to the sides of the pots, and I think it's the low temperatures and susceptibility to rot. If my cuttings are well-rooted and growing fast before winter, they seem to come through okay, but if they go in with weak roots and low energy, they sometimes succumb to winter damage/rot.
there are no magic bullets, rooting cuttings without any hormone is the best method. variations in the growth of roots depends just as much on the compost as anything else the compost should contain the correct stimulation naturally but in this world where plant diseases can travel hundreds of miles in compost most bought compost is sterile at the time of packing it may contain nutrients but be basically dead soil. a little bottom heat usually helps. if you do not have any luck with cuttings try cutting a rose down to about nine inches let new shoots sprout cover the base of the shoots with compost and leave well alone for the winter when the shoots have grown another six inches you will have ready rooted roses to split off the main stem. throw away anything that grows below a root stock graft unless you want to try grafting. Leave one shoot on the stem to let the original plant recover.
First thought, if the honey was thick on the stem I'd think the moisture wasn't able to get to it, making the clone wait until the honey thinned out before it was able to start callus or rooting.
Thanks Jeff.
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Nice experiment! So if i used honey or cinnamon powder in the first place, can i take those cuttings out and dip those in rooting powder and plant again? Will that work?
Should work okay
What's the timescale on your experiment? I might have missed it but i'm curious on how long it took until you took a look at the roots
It was 3 weeks. Thanks
Hey Jason please do this but instead of honey can u do this with aloe vera
Really interesting. Did you continue and check later on this experiment?
Thanks Hugo. I ran out of season, so the ones that had rooted got kept, and everything else I threw away. Sorry!
Given all the warnings on the rooting powders and liquids about not using them for food trees or bushes, I can see no reason to use them for anything unless you're a commercial grower and in hurry to get saleable product. The time is money argument. I suppose that, for non-food perennials, if the risks this causes don't go beyond the plant produced this way then that's fine.
All this video just did was convince me to never buy fruit trees or bushes from a commercial grower if I have any reason to suspect they were started from cuttings.
Ornamentals may be another matter.
When it comes to my own cuttings I'll take my own sweet time with air layering, water, Willow....
Since I try to pack as much genetic variation in my yard as possible, I try to keep clones to a minimum anyway.
Thanks Ruby. It sounds like you're doing what you can to grow naturally, and I can respect that. My goal in the video is not to convince you to use rooting hormone (if you're otherwise not inclined to) - only to check the premise that honey is a suitable rooting agent. Just while we're talking rooting hormone though, I wouldn't mind knowing your source(s) on the danger of rooting hormone on edible plants. The EPA (2000) concluded that “this plant growth regulator poses no known risks to humans or the environment,” and “in animals, indole-3-butyric acid is rapidly broken down to a closely related, harmless chemical that occurs naturally in living organisms.” And that's referencing direct contact. The amount that would (or could) persist in a plant stuck with rooting powder may be so low as to be untraceable. Of course, I guess it depends on how much you trust science (or at least these scientists) - but I wouldn't mind hearing an alternative view.
Is it possible for leechi plant ,mango ,avocado ,jack fruits?