Can some please do a demo of a rapidly plated chromatic scale on a nonslider. I need to know if playing a fast chromatic scale is possible before buying one of these. Thanks!
@@seydelharmonicas Is there any news on this? I know you are probably very busy already but it would be nice to know how long it will take. I was thinking about a whole tone tuning where each hole's blow and draw is 2 semitones apart so that there is a very nice draw bend on every hole. Furthermore, since the top and bottom hole are only a semitone apart you can basically bend from every semitone to every other semitone up or down depending on where you start.
@@teliph3U I think what you are describing is a diminished-tuned arrangement (minor third from hole to hole). I have a Seydel Solist Pro Steel and a Lucky 13 both in diminished tuning. Love it. I've been thinking about a slide harp with dimi tuning, but I think this is better.
@@kungfumachinist, at least in the configurator they call it a whole tone tuning. I also have a Lucky 13 in diminished tuning. I have been playing for a bit more than a week and already memorized the layout. It is so great finally being able to play everything. Did you do any modifications to the harp? Because mine is a bit leaky in the lower octave and the draw reed plate was completely bent. Due to the valves I cannot sand it down and the gasket valves are not available for this model. Also, the sound is sometimes a bit too tinny for my taste. I hope I can find a replacement for the valves. Because then I would sand both surfaces and add the reeds back with screws.
@@teliph3U Ah, yes I guessed. I understood the blow/draw interval on the same hole as a whole tone, but wasn't sure if you meant it was also a whole tone from the draw up to the next blow. Anyway, the lowest note on the L13 is good, the next 2 fair. All I have done is tweak the gapping, but I plan to start learning other techniques like embossing. My reed plates are also quite bent, maybe that's why they use so many screws. I was not able to flatten it. I am considering an Andrew Zajac "dark comb" to warm/mellow it out, maybe that would help with the "tinny" you describe. Oh, also I replaced most of the valves on the lower plate with PT Gazell valves.
Hi there. Thanks for yhe video . Will this harmonica be the best one to play simultaneously with guitar if I want to play sharps and flats? Are there people that already play like that?
Very Interesting.Are they available and at what price?I play chromatic only 30 years.I would have to retrain technical aspects of playing.The other question is the tone I don’t want to sound like a diatonic blues harmonica when I’m playing Ave Maria.You Dig?
Buyers should be aware that not all of the Nonsliders are valveless. It depends which tuning version you buy. From Seydel's product page... In order to achieve an optimal tone responses, the reeds of the LC, LD, LE and LF variants, as well as the C 'Orchestra tuning' are equipped with valves (full and/or half-valving). Bending of certain half-valved notes is still possible - all valved blow notes can additionally be bent down in pitch. Overblows are not playable if the reeds are valved. All other keys have no valves (G, A, Bb, C and D). So if you are buying for the hassle free appeal of no valves, choose your tuning version carefully! I bought the standard Solo C model which is totally valve free. The Orchestra version is not! My Solo C Nonslider is great. No warming up before i play to stop the valves sticking. No swapping valves when they start to fail. The maximum numbers of notes bendable and over-blowable. It's a great design. Just be aware that some do have valves.
The true actual beneficial beauty of this harmonica, I find, is NOT to play it as a chromatic instrument, well not initially, but to employ Seydel's online Harp Configurator to make two diatonic blues harps each ONE TONE apart. For example a C key richer diatonic in the lower holes and a D key richer diatonic in the upper holes. This would still allow chromatics if employing some bending and positional adjustment and/but significantly would grant the player many, many more chord possibilities.
Для того, чтобы играть специфические мелодии (не блюз!)(Маленький цветок, танго Остапа, Королек, 7-40, крутится-вертится Шар голубой, Цыганочка и т. д. ) на обычной диатонической гармошке без бендов легко и просто, я перестроил С- гармошку в "двойной гармонический минор". Потом накопил денег, заказал и купил Non slider. Я думал, что на нем будет также легко и просто, как на моей настройке... Пока что на перестроенной мной диатонике получается лучше, чем на Non slider! Но я буду стараться и надеюсь освоить Non slider!
How to best choose between the C and Bb... Now I walked into a person wanting to sell me the Bb for a better price... but most people say start on C.. but how much does this really matter? I like Chris Cornell's Billy Jean for example ruclips.net/video/R0uWF-37DAM/видео.html or many songs by Kat Hawkins like ruclips.net/video/jRMUWZ96qgg/видео.html how would playing harmonica to those songs differ between C and Bb on the Non-Slider? anyone that could advice a singer that wanna learn to play Harmonica but is not looking for a beginner tool but a more interesting harmonica like this Non-Slider that could last oneself for years to come.. thanks for getting back to anyone who know how to play! :)
This is not a new idea. I have two Yamaha slide-less chromatics that would be at least 50 years old. The combs are wood, and the holes small and square, so a little rough on the tongue and lips.
@@bertrambecher9483 You are right that the sound is poor. Potential customers would benefit from a video so they could see the effort needed to play it. Would you please demonstrate playing a chromatic scale both slow and fast.
@@calcal5135 It would also be nice to have a direct comparison with both chromatic and diatonic harmonica and even with competitor products. Hopefully, the first ones are already shipped. :)
This new innovative design is 250 American.They are out of stock.The technical modus operandi of playing is a method called tilting.Is it a gimmick?Why would a Chromatic player be interested in this no values? It appears to be focused on the diatonic market. Tilting seems a lot of work when playing difficult musical pieces.
I find that the tilts will slow you down if you are raising a specific note a semitone But have also found tilting can work faster in situations where you are making large note jumps, as you don't have to time your jump with a slide depression. The main advantages are no slide to stick or click & no wind-savers to pop or dislodge. And bending works better for those songs that need a little growl.
Ich habe die seydel Nonslider, leider ist diese von 1 bis 4 sehr schwach. Kanal 1 extrem, 3 geht gerade. Bin sehr sehr enttäuscht. Unten sehr schwach und sehr leise. Egal ob ziehen oder blasen. Wünschte es wäre anders. 😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭 Bleibt daher Suzuki absolut treu. Seydel ist eher etwas für für Tonne. Viel Geld für leider nichts.
Ok Sir, you got the goal !
Your explanation is simple, clear and really understanding !
Many thanks for posting it 👍💪
thankyou - wonderful technical explanation and masterful demonstration.
I took a little getting used to but after a couple of weeks I am loving this non slider. Now I want a orchestral version to get into a lower octave.
Be aware that the orchestral tuning has one valve (half valved) at C4.
Very Cool! That was also a great demonstration Łukasz!! :-)
Great demo👍thanks for posting
Fantastic, absolutey fantastic !!!
Excellent demonstration. Must try the non slider . Thank you.
Thanks, a terrific demo!
Thanks to you I have learned these nonslider chromatic harmonicas at all exists. Great demo!
Truly..an excellently designed Harmonica .Seem an almost trouble free instrument.
Yes, hassle-free, so to say ;-)
I have an Easttop Melody Bass Harmonica Model No. MN40 which is also a Non Slider Chromatic
I used to bend my Chromonica 270. Now im looking to buy a Volcany from Sydel. Do you have any comments about it? Nice Video
Can some please do a demo of a rapidly plated chromatic scale on a nonslider. I need to know if playing a fast chromatic scale is possible before buying one of these. Thanks!
Interesting. Will there be a configurable version?
Yes, we will announce the NONSLIDER config soon.
@@seydelharmonicas Is there any news on this? I know you are probably very busy already but it would be nice to know how long it will take.
I was thinking about a whole tone tuning where each hole's blow and draw is 2 semitones apart so that there is a very nice draw bend on every hole. Furthermore, since the top and bottom hole are only a semitone apart you can basically bend from every semitone to every other semitone up or down depending on where you start.
@@teliph3U I think what you are describing is a diminished-tuned arrangement (minor third from hole to hole). I have a Seydel Solist Pro Steel and a Lucky 13 both in diminished tuning. Love it. I've been thinking about a slide harp with dimi tuning, but I think this is better.
@@kungfumachinist, at least in the configurator they call it a whole tone tuning. I also have a Lucky 13 in diminished tuning. I have been playing for a bit more than a week and already memorized the layout. It is so great finally being able to play everything.
Did you do any modifications to the harp? Because mine is a bit leaky in the lower octave and the draw reed plate was completely bent. Due to the valves I cannot sand it down and the gasket valves are not available for this model. Also, the sound is sometimes a bit too tinny for my taste. I hope I can find a replacement for the valves. Because then I would sand both surfaces and add the reeds back with screws.
@@teliph3U Ah, yes I guessed. I understood the blow/draw interval on the same hole as a whole tone, but wasn't sure if you meant it was also a whole tone from the draw up to the next blow. Anyway, the lowest note on the L13 is good, the next 2 fair. All I have done is tweak the gapping, but I plan to start learning other techniques like embossing. My reed plates are also quite bent, maybe that's why they use so many screws. I was not able to flatten it. I am considering an Andrew Zajac "dark comb" to warm/mellow it out, maybe that would help with the "tinny" you describe. Oh, also I replaced most of the valves on the lower plate with PT Gazell valves.
What would a classical piece sound on this instrument?
Hi there. Thanks for yhe video . Will this harmonica be the best one to play simultaneously with guitar if I want to play sharps and flats?
Are there people that already play like that?
Fantastic !!! Really fantastic ❤
Very Interesting.Are they available and at what price?I play chromatic only 30 years.I would have to retrain technical aspects of playing.The other question is the tone I don’t want to sound like a diatonic blues harmonica when I’m playing Ave Maria.You Dig?
How much is it. I need to get one.
Windsavers made me give up to play harmonica... this harmonica is a whole new history...
Me too. I kept changing my windsavers but still wasn't really happy.. 🙂
Excellent....👍😊
Wow this is wonderful double full note diatonic C and C# 😄. I wish can get one. Thank you for review.
Yamaha has made for a long time a longer version of this kind of harmonica ... the SS 220... I wonder how they would compare soundwise
Kikazz ❤ bravo good job
Buyers should be aware that not all of the Nonsliders are valveless. It depends which tuning version you buy.
From Seydel's product page...
In order to achieve an optimal tone responses, the reeds of the LC, LD, LE and LF variants, as well as the C 'Orchestra tuning' are equipped with valves (full and/or half-valving). Bending of certain half-valved notes is still possible - all valved blow notes can additionally be bent down in pitch. Overblows are not playable if the reeds are valved. All other keys have no valves (G, A, Bb, C and D).
So if you are buying for the hassle free appeal of no valves, choose your tuning version carefully!
I bought the standard Solo C model which is totally valve free.
The Orchestra version is not!
My Solo C Nonslider is great. No warming up before i play to stop the valves sticking. No swapping valves when they start to fail. The maximum numbers of notes bendable and over-blowable.
It's a great design. Just be aware that some do have valves.
Is the embouchure comfortable? Did it take a while to get used to? What about octaves/tongue splits?
Looks like the ultimate pucker boy harmonica. Can you tongue block octaves easily? Probably good for rack players
The true actual beneficial beauty of this harmonica, I find, is NOT to play it as a chromatic instrument, well not initially, but to employ Seydel's online Harp Configurator to make two diatonic blues harps each ONE TONE apart.
For example a C key richer diatonic in the lower holes and a D key richer diatonic in the upper holes.
This would still allow chromatics if employing some bending and positional adjustment and/but significantly would grant the player many, many more chord possibilities.
What model was the blue diatonic?
Panie Łukaszu czy możemy się skontaktować telefonicznie?
thanks for this video...I was looking for a new harp.
The windsavers made me give up to play the harmonica... this technology makes me want to play again
Show!!!👏👏👏👏🙏
This gives me an idea on how I might actually make button chord harp idea work...
Brilliant idea! Let us know more about!
Can you explain how it works?
Interesting 🤔
What is price on Indian rupee?
oh you are a great harmonica player. woah!~
which key of diatonic harp were you using please?
C :)
Для того, чтобы играть специфические мелодии (не блюз!)(Маленький цветок, танго Остапа, Королек, 7-40, крутится-вертится Шар голубой, Цыганочка и т. д. ) на обычной диатонической гармошке без бендов легко и просто, я перестроил С- гармошку в "двойной гармонический минор".
Потом накопил денег, заказал и купил Non slider. Я думал, что на нем будет также легко и просто, как на моей настройке... Пока что на перестроенной мной диатонике получается лучше, чем на Non slider! Но я буду стараться и надеюсь освоить Non slider!
The Jury is out.I will keep an open mind and monitor the Chromatic Harmonica site for reviews.
How to best choose between the C and Bb... Now I walked into a person wanting to sell me the Bb for a better price... but most people say start on C.. but how much does this really matter? I like Chris Cornell's Billy Jean for example ruclips.net/video/R0uWF-37DAM/видео.html
or many songs by Kat Hawkins like ruclips.net/video/jRMUWZ96qgg/видео.html
how would playing harmonica to those songs differ between C and Bb on the Non-Slider?
anyone that could advice a singer that wanna learn to play Harmonica but is not looking for a beginner tool but a more interesting harmonica like this Non-Slider that could last oneself for years to come.. thanks for getting back to anyone who know how to play! :)
This is great to play chromatic harmonica in a neck brace, combined with guitar. The price is actually pretty acceptable.
This is not a new idea. I have two Yamaha slide-less chromatics that would be at least 50 years old. The combs are wood, and the holes small and square, so a little rough on the tongue and lips.
Not new, but definitely executed better.
I have one of the later Yamaha SS220 with a lomger scale and where they replaced the wood by plastic.
Отличная гармоника
классная гармоника без слайдера.
Seydel
Please make some videos of someone actually playing this instrument.
You can listen to the 1st sound example on the product page for a jazzy Bossanova.
@@seydelharmonicas
Ok. I listened. That was terrible.
@@calcal5135 the Sound is not the best, but it shows how the thing works. I am sure you could play something much nicer!
@@bertrambecher9483
You are right that the sound is poor. Potential customers would benefit from a video so they could see the effort needed to play it. Would you please demonstrate playing a chromatic scale both slow and fast.
@@calcal5135 It would also be nice to have a direct comparison with both chromatic and diatonic harmonica and even with competitor products. Hopefully, the first ones are already shipped. :)
I don't know if I'd like a harmonica like that, to be honest.
Full review ruclips.net/video/2CkAKWabnVs/видео.html
Hmmm Hohner will come out with 1😃😃😃😃😃😃😃😃😃😃😃😃😃😃
Perhaps yes, perhaps no ?!?
Non, pas au point encore mais intéressant pour les guitaristes
This new innovative design is 250 American.They are out of stock.The technical modus operandi of playing is a method called tilting.Is it a gimmick?Why would a Chromatic player be interested in this no values? It appears to be focused on the diatonic market. Tilting seems a lot of work when playing difficult musical pieces.
I find that the tilts will slow you down if you are raising a specific note a semitone But have also found tilting can work faster in situations where you are making large note jumps, as you don't have to time your jump with a slide depression. The main advantages are no slide to stick or click & no wind-savers to pop or dislodge. And bending works better for those songs that need a little growl.
Most problematic than real chromatic harmonica rather difficult
Please stop making new harmonicas . I am already broke. don't want this bee hive like thing :)
me too 😪😪 and still struggling on the ones with slider.
Ich habe die seydel Nonslider, leider ist diese von 1 bis 4 sehr schwach.
Kanal 1 extrem, 3 geht gerade.
Bin sehr sehr enttäuscht.
Unten sehr schwach und sehr leise. Egal ob ziehen oder blasen.
Wünschte es wäre anders.
😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭
Bleibt daher Suzuki absolut treu.
Seydel ist eher etwas für für Tonne.
Viel Geld für leider nichts.