Ex-atheist here:) I became atheist after being taught evolution in honors history class @ age 15. For 7 years I went from being angry with God, to depression as an atheist not knowing the meaning of life since it is meaningless if all we did was evolve from whatever they claim today. Then it was monkey to man. What I found is, God is totally ready to answer anyone (even an atheist) if and when we seek Him and let Him. I then asked this One what Truth was? What religion if any was He into. Within a year, reading the gospels as you say, I wanted to know this One Jesus, but didn't see how that was possible. Sure enough He showed Himself to me after I one night simply "trusted" Him in a step of faith. It's been many years now, but He is faithful through it all. God bless you for sharing with young people as you do. I would have been drawn if I heard you. :)
@@clearascrystal4960 another step as you grow in the faith is trusting in everything you do. All day long, every moment during the day.. I took a huge step of faith in learning more after becoming a believer. I've learned that my step each day in faith has produced an amazing amount of love that God has returned in my favor because of that faith. After learning more, I've noticed in the Book of Daniel there was faith among Daniel and god blessed him because of his faith. Also Jesus even mentioned "if you abide in me, then I will abide in you". Since we are the branch, we must first abide in the vine in order to produce more fruit in our lives. Time and time God has showed me more as I continue to learn more and seek him all day, every hour, every minute...all day long.. AMEN!
@@midwestflying3461 That certainly blessed and helps me. I'm reading more of the scriptures these days, and speaking more to the Lord during my day, trying to "abide in Him", especially in these uncertain days it helps. God Bless you.
It made me smile as well. Jesus is 💯 my best, trustworthy, loving, compassionate and powerful friend. I started watching Cliffe about 9 or 10 months ago now and so happy he has years of footage available. I pray you’re doing well a year after making this comment. God Bless. 🙏💕
I love how he looks like an owl he is wise he has Godly wisdom and walks in the light and the darkness doesn’t like him you saw the girl she just walked of in defiant way she couldn’t stand in the light anymore
I'm so glad that I was raised in a Christian home and that I haven't walked this earth for over fifty years guessing what life is all about, working for the glory of God.
I'm a skeptic through and through. It disturbs me when people, especially those who call themselves Christians, misrepresent Christ. So grateful for these vids!
bonnie43uk... 1. Some who call themselves Christians, for example, commit crimes or grossly sin against God and each other, which is self-explanatory, if you're aware of what the scriptures say (eg: the ten commandments). 2. Those who promote the gospel of health, wealth and prosperity (eg: Kenneth Copeland, Benny Hinn, Joel Osteen, etc.) are called Word-Faith teachers, twisting the meaning of the scriptures. 3. Cults like Mormonism and Jehovah's Witnesses use the name of Jesus, but don't teach Jesus is God, as He claimed to be (again, twisting scriptures and adding false doctrines that the Bible does not teach). 4. Many also use the name of Christ for personal gain, such as the father of the boy in the book/movie titled: Heaven is for Real. The boy, now older, claims that his father exploited him for profit. I could go on, but I think you get the idea. This is why it's important that we not believe everything we are told, that we read the Bible for ourselves, in context, and in consideration of the purpose, culture and time of historical events written therein.
@Whit U. Ah, ok, it's good to be in agreement with you on most of what you wrote, I totally agree with you about people like Copeland, Hinn and others, they are totally exploiting people for monetary gain. And I agree with you that Mormonism and Jehova's witness are cults. . I'm sure you would vehemently disagree with me though if I told you I think Christianity is also a cult. Albeit a huge global cult, split up into hundreds of smaller cults. If we define a cult as : A social group defined by their religious, spiritual and philosophical beliefs, then I think Christianity fits in neatly into that bracket. You made an interesting point about reading the bible in context, one of the problems is that as humans we are incredibly diverse in our thinking , how we view what comes off of the written page differs wildly, some people will take a passage literally ( as in Lots wife being turned into a pillar of salt), and others will view it as poetic licence. I'm fairly certain that my reading of page 1 of Genesis will not agree with how you view it. I was discussing this with a person here in these comments the other day regarding Gen 1:16, concerning God making 2 great lights, I was telling him that moonlight is simply the Sun's reflection, he was adamant that the moon had it's own light system and that Gen 1:16 was absolutely correct.
bonnie43uk ...Agreed, for the most part. I don't believe that Genesis was ultimately meant to define science for us, but that it is the foundational history of the the relationship between God and man and how it all started so that we can better understand how we ended up so deprived today. I haven't found any real science that contradicts the Bible's claims, but like you said, one can easily interject his/her own understanding into it. Studying the original language and the meaning of the words used can help clear things up. In countries where everyone owns a smartphone and a computer, access to technology and reference tools gives us no excuse for sloppy interpretation, especially on important topics like the origin of life, God's existence, science, archaeology, philosophy, etc. It's important to be a thorough, fair and responsible investigator of whether there's a God, whether life has intrinsic value and meaning, what God (if He exists) want us to know, what should we do with what we know, and what the result will be of what I tell others (especially in a lazy, gullible, "fast-food" age). This is why I so appreciate intellectual honesty, like you've just displayed. But I loathe when people don't take life, themselves or others seriously and drag others with them into a pool of lies, deceit, cowardice and vices. Some will never know what it means to take the less travelled road or explore the answers to life's questions because they've been programmed to take the easy, fun, pleasurable path. Anyone can do that.
Thanks for your reply. I enjoy these discussions, as a former Christian it's a subject that is close to my heart. I enjoy watching Cliffe's video's and I always tend to side with the students who he debates, their arguments tend to make much more sense to me. These comment discussions are just an extension of the things Cliffe and the students chat about. It would be good to know a little more about you and your faith, where you're from, why you believe the things you do, etc. I'm in the UK from a town called Swindon, it's about halfway between Oxford and Stonehenge. I'm 58 and male ( i get the odd comment about my name and occasionally get mistaken for a female, that is my fault for choosing the name bonnie I guess.. it was simply a name of a song I liked, I've had that name for over 15 years now and have no wish to change it.). If there is anything you want to ask me about my disbelief I'll be happy to answer. We are probably both keen t think the things we believe are true.I have no doubt that Cliffe believe's 100% that his belief in the gospels is absolutely true. I have my doubts though.
I went to Catholic schools and then came out as gay at 17. I got sucked into the gay lifestyle and turned my back on Jesus, even to the point of mocking Him. Three years ago I had a breakdown. When I was recovering, I felt a pulling towards Jesus and I opened up to Him. Now, I don't have any gay sexual desires anymore and I interact with God every day. I've asked for things and they've come true and when I've been worried about certain things.. they've turned out alright and this has happened lots of times.
They have to explain because Cliffe doesn't understand the difference. I've watched tons of his videos and come to the conclusion Cliffe is dilusional!
chimpintree...I have also watched tons of these videos and have come to the conclusion that the majority of these students are idiots,i don`t know how Cliffe has the patience with them
chimpintree - You are delusional. Cliffe is telling folks to examine the evidence from source documents. He isn’t proselytizing, he’s telling children to think critically, and choose the best & most reliable world view.
Unfortunately, most people choose not to accept God because the world has consumed their hearts and their minds. I was one of these people who questioned Him until I allowed Him to change my life. He is willing and He is able! Thank you Jesus! I pray that You continue to work in my life and show me the treasures of Your promises. Thank you Lord!
@@chimpintree My friend, that's where faith comes in. Submitting to His will for my life shows faith in His ability and willingness to do so. There is nothing more important than a relationship with him.
@@ev2175 Cliff is Preaching Christianity, out of that same Bible in Psalms 147:19-20 The Most High God says that He gave His laws statues and commandments to the children of Israel, when you sin you are breaking the laws statues and commandments. He hath not dealt so with any Nation, means he doesn't deal with the other Nations. So if He doesn't deal with the other Nations, then they are not subject to God's laws, Am I crazy for saying that, no listen what Amos 3:1-Here this word that the Lord hath spoken against you, O Children of Israel, notice that He said I children of Israel He didn't say anybody else, He said I children of Israel, against the whole family which I bought up from the land of Egypt,saying, You only have I Known, of all the families of the earth, God Is saying I don't know these other Nations of people, I don't care about them, but because I know you, and I gave my laws statues and commandments to you, you're the one I'm going to punish for your sins. And to show you that God doesn't care about the other Nations read Isaiah 40:15, so if Cliff is teaching Salvation to a people to whom there is no Salvation, he is a deciever.
@@Blackhebrew01 Well the writer of the psalm says that. That God has done this for no other nation, that they do not know his laws. This makes you ask the question, why? And if you read from genesis up to that point you see how God honours His promises with Abraham and his descendants, so it isn’t an issue of favouritism per se. Additionally it doesn’t mean that God would never deal with others nations, don’t twist what you read or make it to appear one way when that isn’t the point being made. Also, in the New Testament we are shown that Gods purpose was for everyone to know Him and he shows us this by the fact that he wants everyone to know the good news (the gospel). So, to insinuate from a psalm written at one point in time for a specific purpose, that God doesn’t want to deal with the rest of creation is kind of messy. I don’t think that train of thought is logical.
So much of the spirit of Christ in you. Thank you for showing love and respect to anyone that stand against your closest friend. Jesus loves you, my friend👍. GTG
The girl says he has good arguments but she can't refute any of it so she chooses to not listen. That sounds pretty closed minded. Most of these kids are just repeating old arguments that they heard from someone, they're not thinking for themselves like they think they are, they're being told how to think.
@@truth0077 all of genius is BS. Science has proven that it's all crap. But you can't convince the religiously brainwashed. That's why Trump chose the religious to back him. They're just not smart people. They believe anything they're told. Sad really!
@@chimpintree lol... you just proved you are an ignorant fool. So you voted for this old man that is not doing anything but taking naps. You are brainwashed by CNN and the rest of those great journalists. Yeah Jussie Smollett got attacked by 2 white guys wearing maga hats roflmbo. How is that fake news working out for you. You moron.
And that’s ok. Let her decide. Because no one accepts so quickly. Even if they did they still have doubt at first. And one that accepts is not better that those who do not believe.
When Cliffe takes the hands on knees standing stance it takes me back to school as my headteacher did the same thing and he was one of the respected ones.
This is exactly why I have been saying for years that we need an introduction to logic course, and maybe a philosophy course, as a core curriculum class. Apart from maybe language, not one other skill is as important or as commonly needed as a foundational logic. People are progressively being brought up in what’s been previously termed as “scientism” -the idea that science can’t be wrong - and it couldn’t be further from the truth. This infallibility idea is corrupting the lenses that people look at the world with, and it’s only becoming more dogmatized as time progresses.
No intelligent person has ever said "science can't be wrong". Science is learning. However. I know people who actually think the bible can't be wrong. Now that statement can't be further from the truth!
They take evolution as fact and will claim it to be proven true, e ery time. This is a partial truth. Adaptation and natural selection happen, but the common ancestor does not. Dogs make dogs,, cats cats, humans humans and so on for all recorded history. We don't see any Significant new species, only small changes within kinds. The problem is this becomes no longer science but historical guessing when we say because there is diversity then everything must have come from each other. It's like finding a wet noodle and then saying it came from a dry noodle, ok fine. But then saying that boiling water turned into a dry noodle and is a common ancestor. It's a big reach, with the fuzzy factor being millions or billions of years and lack of complete fossil evidence to explain it away. But truly it's a convenient way to dismiss God. Then one can argue all day about evidence and evolution instead of what really matters, rational thought, morality, and purpose. Because if evolution us true you are just a meat bag. A cosmic mistake and when you die you will no longer exist and the only reason you are alive is meaningless in the grand scheme of evolutionary death. There isnt live nor hate nor anything wrong or right. It all just is. You are a random gathering of cells cursed with self awareness, but there is no self. Its a fleeting feeling that you are real at all. There is no reason to be good. Take what you can without being caught, dupe as many people as possible, there is no real truth or justice just whims of an advanced apelike species, so live like it.
@@chimpintreeright that’s why this person is suggested there be some sort of class to teach that sort of logical thinking because unfortunately common sense like that is becoming less common
13:44 she couldn't stand not winning the argument that she walked away... wow. Tbh its more saddening than shameful .. rejecting the GREATEST GIFT any human being could receive in this life . !!! 🙏
Not just not winning the argument, but if you think about it, some people don't even want answers to their questions. They just use their questions as reasons to attack the Bible. To them, if it doesn't make sense within the first few minutes, it's bullcrap. They don't take the time to think about what Cliffe is saying. Saddening indeed.
It is sad, but Cliff did a good job of pointing out her hang ups. Any religion that uses a name other than Christianity to describe itself, can it really be Christian? Why separate yourself that way, is it because they dont really accept christ? I have seem many nondenominational churches pop up for this reason. It's great to have fellowship but if we look at the way Jesus lived what church did Jesus put up a sign outside and meet once a week at?....
Methodist church yeahh ...which has no sound doctrine is the result of that girl. She is the type of girl who would believe all the million avatars of hinduism without a second thought but have a hard time believing in Jesus Christ.
This video was done 5 years ago. I hope that, wherever this lady is now, she has been able to find a way to engage with Christian seperate from her Church experience up to that date. It's so hard to do. But I'm so praying for a revival based on CHRIST and not on Church to rise.
You know cliff has re introduced the concept of loving my enemies to me. And so I've come to this conclusion and this is what it sounds like. What is the very heaviest thing you have ever lifted. And tiktok fashion "I'll go 1st" I thought at 1 point in time that the very heaviest thing I've ever lifted was The burying of my son 15 years ago He was 24. Now after lift listening to cliff I have come to the conclusion that the absolute very heaviest thing to lift is to love your enemies love people that do you wrong love people that hate you love people that work against you that is the very heaviest thing we will ever lift in our lives and the best part is we don't have to do it by ourselves we have help through Jesus Christ. Forgive me if I've already stated this somewhere else but I strongly believe in this.
I'm so glad he expressed the difference between having trust in Christ as opposed to "religion" or "Christianity" itself. I've tried to explain the differences to others. He did it so well! So many people want to assume that because of the Crusades, the Inquisition, the Witch Hunts, etc. in the name of the "church" that they were God's doing and that he sanctioned them. Those were the actions and choices of Men through Free Will. And this is one of the hardest things that many non believers or even those who have lost their faith have a hard time understanding. His explanation of the difference between the two so far is the best that I think I've ever heard. Well done!
11:00 this girl is just so obtuse and stuck in her way... this is why after many years of arguing with atheists irl and on discord.. I just gave up and lost my patience trying to rationalize with these people the way Cliffe is doing, that's why I have mad respect for Cliffe 'cause I see him out doing this year after year with amazing responses, and have to deal with these blind hedonists that are just 100% unwilling to listen to reason and logic. They'll take 100% reason and evidence straight in the face, and still just shake their head and walk away with zero evidence of their own, it's almost pointless this day and age in this post-modern generation these kids are indoctrinated into evolution and post modernism beyond saving, without God breaking them down and them losing everything they'll never find him.
13:39 When the lady walked away, she was hit hard by conviction of the HOLY Spirit but her free will's too strong and resisted to submit. I pray the LORD will open her heart and mind.
The hardest thing to do in this world, is to deny yourself, and take up the cross of Jesus Christ, and put your faith in him and only him, not yourself. We all struggle with this because we are so attached to this earthly world and our preception of life. We live in the physical and not the spiritual aspect of life, which makes connecting with God so hard to do. I constantly have to remind myself that I cannot control everything and I need God to lean on for direction.
That girl is living for herself. She is the god of her own life. It shows that she is seeking or interested, ‘cause out of all the things she chose to do in life, she’s talking to a Christian asking questions.
I pray for those youth that walked away, and still seemed very doubtful. I pray that Jesus got through to them through your evidence based teaching. Thank you for all you do for these youth and for as many people you can reach. God bless you, Pastor.
I know this discussion happened way back, but as the first girl opened up about being a long time methodist goer as a child and how she suddenly thought things are not making sense, I can see that she is extremely close into being converted in just a few more realizations and I found myself praying for her. I hope she has found her way back to Christ by now.
What i like most about these videos is that they get people talking not only in the videos but in the comments as well!!! Thats where we have wrong in society today we've lost the ability to communicate with each other!!!
@Srk Do you mean "Jesus Christ" the character that fits in to the classification of mythical characters in all of the Mystery Religions of the surrounding areas - "Jesus" just being the Jewish interpretation of what Egypt, Mesopotamia, Persia, etc.. also had. Jews were late to the party so they just copied almost exactly what the other cultures around them did. If you look at all the other mystery religions of those regions and approximate timeframes, you will be shocked to see what appears to be a blatant rip-off of christianity, except, all those other religions came first.. Sorry.
Dang, I wanted to see Cliffe talk about the whole Science and Bible thing. What the college student said is false. Science and the Bible actually line up together perfectly. A lot of Scriptures told us of many things that Science later on discovered.
Pardon me for stopping the video and commenting without finishing, but I was jarred by the young ladies's question/comment about what makes us (humans) different than apes and monkeys that we would have a religion to explain creation. Perhaps if she has attempted to talk to apes and monkeys, she has an enlightened conversation, but I think the difference between human beings and apes and monkeys is different despite any evolutionary theory.
Not looking good for a pastor to have those expensive cameras around students? Huh? Are you kidding me? I've heard some dumb things in my time but come on. So it's ok for everyone else to have expensive camera's EXCEPT a "pastor"? You're telling me that pastors should use cheap technology at all times, especially when speaking at public and private universities? Come on man!
You're welcome. Judging a pastor by the price of his camera's is silly and trivial given the fact that these video's reach millions of people. Btw, I have nothing against you, but my name is Daniel, not "Dan".
Some can't and will not get it psalms 147 v 19 He sheweth his word unto Jacob, his statutes and his judgments unto Israel. 20 He hath not dealt so with any nation: and as for his judgments, they have not known them. Praise ye the Lord.
He's not debating him, he's trying to open their minds. If he attacked evolution which is that kids religion, he would have shut down to new ideas and been defensive.
Not only that but evolution can't explain how life began. Cant account for the Cambrian Explosion and cannot explain Irreducible Complexity. Ref: James Tour, William Lane Craig, Michael Behe and Stephen Meyer.
The irony of the first younf lady is she says everything about what Cliff believes "collapses" despite the fact he successfully gave real answers to every one of her questions and she had no rebuttal for any of it. With each question she continued with, you begin to see her true intention for being there, it wasnt to learn what Cliff is teaching, it was to prove him wrong from the start. She is both out of her depth and set on her course at the same time.
can't believe these kids go to a university, what kind of educational the usa gives their citizens people judging without reading the source, people don't know the difference between mythology and historical record /:
Just because you gather a collective understanding, Doesn’t always make it true. A lot of people can believe they’re truth is right, but have NO EVIDENCE TO PROVE they’re collective Belief
Is Cliffe getting better or what ? Our purpose as saved people, is to do unto others as was done unto us, in the best possible way. We got saved remember. Therefore with our care and love for others we have the duty of spreading the good news, because others spread it to us. The gospel quenched our thirst and gave us peace. What are we if we do not offer living waters to the thirsty. 1Peter 2:9 But Ye are a chosen generation, a royal priesthood, an holy nation, a peculiar people, that Ye should show forth the praises of Him who hath called you out of darkness into His marvellous light. I wonder if those of us as students, I include myself who is 70'in May, who watched Cliffe the teacher would have become effective at soul winning without his example? We teach and preach to save souls. We are allowed the privilege of assisting God by pointing the people to Him. We are pointers. We tell them when they ask us why we do what we do, that we do it because they are unaware of why they have been born. They know not why they are here. Yes it's true, we are here to love and serve God and our fellowman. But loving and serving God and our fellowman is the outworking of our purpose which is to gain our inheritance from God of everlasting life in heaven.
Hope you don't mind me butting in. Repentance is the realization that we have failed in our mission to live the way God designed us to and have rejected him. Repentance happens naturally and cannot be forced. When you truly accept that Christ is who he said he was, it happens. The Holy Spirit convicts us of our sins and we feel it and want to stop. You may hear some people say repentance means to stop sinning and never doing it again. Although you will get a new heart that wants to please God and stop sinning, we can never be perfect in our behavior. That is why Christ suffered and died for us. He had to pay the cost for all our sin. But Christ is faithful in that if we confess our sins to Him, He will is faithful to forgive us. Hope that helps..
Isn’t it awesome how an 18 year old girl has everything worked out? Her extensive life experience can’t even get her to where she understands the point that Cliffe is making. It’s either that or she just simply doesn’t want to see his point because once you verbalise that a point has been made, you need to deal with it as an actual option.
I know a bit about the United Methodist Church in the USA having married a young woman about this girl’s age when I graduated from college. Methodists don’t believe the Bible is the inspired word of God, and now they believe it contains contradictions and errors. They teach hell & Satan are concepts or analogies to convey the difference between right & wrong, good & evil. They intertwine Evolution & Deep Time with Christianity, and develop what I would consider a False Gospel. Jesus is taught to have been a highly “evolved” and enlightened teacher, and certainly not God, born of a Virgin. This runs contrary to the gospels according to Matthew, Mark, Luke, and John. Therefore, it is not surprising how this young woman has turned away from a false religion.
Methodist church isn't a sound doctrine church . Most of the Western Christians stopped teaching the kids about gospel where as we in Asian Christians are persecuted for following Christ and we are more strong in Christ than we ever now. We take Jesus Christ more seriously than anything in life.
It is strange to me how people will say they will not believe in Jesus, can not anymore, or do not understand Jesus or faith, but at the same time, they do absolutely NOTHING to even check the facts of the reliability of Jesus out! They will be staunch in their disbelief yet totally ignorant of the evidence of reliability for Christ. I run into this ALL the time.
To the first girl who walked away, some people will put up a guise as their reasoning being rational when most times its either emotional or volitional. I think it’s more emotional with her and maybe somewhat volitional cause she seems to be hurt by her upbringing. He tried to reason with her philosophically, and it wasn’t resonating. When it’s emotional no amount of logic, evidence, or reasoning will reach that person. It will all sound like nonsense especially if the person is not looking to reason, and pretend its based on rationality.
I'm not a fan of when Cliffe allows questioners to constantly bring up the Crusades, Inquisitions and other alleged acts of Christian violence and hypocrisy. He doesn't do a good job of cutting through the fallacies and historical illiteracy: Such events had very little to do with actual teachings of Christ and were instead power grabs by men under the cloak of following faith and religion. The Inquisition in particular was about expanding and consolidating Roman Catholic power: It had virtually nothing to do with actual faith teachings. Same for the Salem Witch Trials. The Crusades, unless one is a total historical illiterate, was largely Christian defensive actions against centuries of prior Islamic aggression and belligerence. Basically, these are just poor examples brought up by people who don't have a solid historical understanding.
I feel bad for the blonde girl because you can tell her spirit is stirring and you can tell she's hurt/struggling from something. I hope she found her way.
The boy at the beginning is misinformed. Colton Burpo (the kid behind the book, Heaven is for Real) is still is standing by his story. What I think he's confusing, is that there was another book written in 2010, that kid is saying he made everything up, not Colton.
I would love to converse with Cliffe Knechtle about the Trinity doctrine. He is very intelligent and as he says in this video, be skeptical! The Trinity is one of those doctrines that historically has deep rooted problems. I would love to see if Cliffe will continue being honest and face the overwhelming evidence against this Roman Catholic foundation. I have had a little online discussion with Dr. Reeves. I also have done several videos on Dr. Reeves and his University teachings.
The Trinity is impossible to grasp by a limited human intelligence. But that’s no reason to disbelieve. Belief in God Who exists from eternity is a similar difficulty. As close as l can get to having some insight into the Blessed Trinity is the human family. We are created in the image and likeness of God according to Genesis. ThAt image is best seen in family. None of us is entirely independent. We are part of a family, 3 in One. We are individuals, yet we cannot exist but for our mother and father. All of nature mirrors the Trinity to us.Biblical interpretation is difficult. This is seen in a fractured Christianity. That is why Jesus left us a Church to interpret properly and define doctrine. He didn’t leave us to wander in a mist, trying to interpret the Bible. He left a church to guide us . Blessings
@@larryluch8178 The bible is of no private interpretation. What that means is that it can be understood by the common man. Professing a Trinity that is still a mystery and difficult to grasp is not coming from scripture. It is coming from philosophy, and allegorical interpretation. Here lies the confusion!
@@approvedofGod Understood by the common man? Why then is there such debate around so many doctrinal issues? What did Jesus mean when He said: Unless you eat My Flesh and drink My Blood you shall not have life within you.? Catholics and Orthodox take it literally but most other Christians do not. In Gen1v26 God says: Let us make man in our own image. Plural. All nature is trinity , the image and likeness of God. So some things we just have to accept as beyond our full understanding. That’s why He’s God and we His creatures. Blessings
@@larryluch8178 Nonsense Larry. The bible is simple. It is men who add or take away from scripture, that brings confusion and division. "Unless you eat my flesh . . ." is Jesus speaking "spiritually." Just keep on reading and you find; "the words that I speak unto you, they are spirit, and they are life" (John 6:63). The same goes for Genesis 1:26. Follow the text and see that 1:27 is disproving a plurality of divine persons. Go to the actual place where God created man and then woman, and you see only one God person. See Genesis 2:7, 21, 22. God alone created Adam and Eve. John 6:63 Gen 2:7 And the Lord God formed man of the dust of the ground, and breathed into his nostrils the breath of life; and man became a living soul. Isa 44:24 Thus saith the Lord, thy redeemer, and he that formed thee from the womb, I am the Lord that maketh all things; that stretcheth forth the heavens alone; that spreadeth abroad the earth by myself; God said "by myself!"
@@approvedofGod Speaking spiritually? That would certainly make life much simpler . I wonder why Catholics and Orthodox have believed otherwise for 2000 years? One of the most recent Eucharistic miracles took place in Buenos Aires in 1996. Thorough lab scrutiny of the miraculous specimen confirms Catholic/Orthodox belief. Not to believe in the Trinity means Jesus is not God. That puts you outside the Christian tradition. Islam and Jews teach God but not the Trinity. The Bible can be used to teach many things but only the Catholic Church has the authority from Jesus to go ye therefore teach all nations . Jesus establishes one church, not thousands preaching and teaching a variety of doctrines. Our Savior desires clarity, not a babble of voices confusing people. So as you can see l have submitted my intellect to the doctrine of the Catholic Faith. Ave Christus Rex
this young kids easily gets to their conclusion based from the opinions of others just because of academic hierarchy without even spending time studying all faiths. Most of the kids here wants the easy way rather than finding the truth by themselves by studying and investigate. Pitiful generation.
Fact check: That opening guy pointed out a retracting and got it wrong. The kid who retracted was not the kid from Heaven is for Real. It was different case. He was thinking of "The Boy Who Came Back from Heaven".
James 5:16 Confess your faults one to another, and pray one for another, that ye may be healed. The effectual fervent prayer of a righteous man availeth much.
Hardcore Absolute Fact: This young lady is afraid to be excluded from society and called out for being truthful about reality ( because her enemy is relentless)! She values pleasing human beings simply to fit in! That is extremely low IQ and cowardly!
It is interesting to me how it is almost always students, not professors, that debate Pastor Cliffe. They almost all state the same "facts" but do not cite references. The pastor offers citations and strong, logic based arguments with an humble spirit while the students dismiss his claims and have an attitude of arrogance. Every campus has the same kind of disdain for his arguments. What does this say about our educational system as a nation?
This girl as so many people confuse organized religion with the Word of God! Forget about your church for now, and read the Bible to learn his word and follow his will. Religious institutions are created and run by man. They have their agenda and seek to achieve their objectives. God is great, God is God, God loves us.
Thank God for reality, laws of nature, laws of motion, laws of morality, laws of physics, and rational thought. God, the best scientist for time immemorial!
That first girl was asking good questions but wasn't receiving a single thing that he said. She could not separate religion and Jesus; even when Cliffe made it very simple. All she did was say "I appreciate that, but I don't agree".
_"Beloved, believe not every spirit, but try the spirits whether they are of God: because many false prophets are gone out into the world. Hereby know ye the Spirit of God: Every spirit that confesseth that Jesus Christ is come in the flesh is of God: And every spirit that confesseth not that Jesus Christ is come in the flesh is not of God: and this is that spirit of antichrist, whereof ye have heard that it should come; and even now already is it in the world."_ -- 1 John, chapter 4, verses 1 through 3 (from the King James Bible)
Ex-atheist here:) I became atheist after being taught evolution in honors history class @ age 15. For 7 years I went from being angry with God, to depression as an atheist not knowing the meaning of life since it is meaningless if all we did was evolve from whatever they claim today. Then it was monkey to man. What I found is, God is totally ready to answer anyone (even an atheist) if and when we seek Him and let Him. I then asked this One what Truth was? What religion if any was He into. Within a year, reading the gospels as you say, I wanted to know this One Jesus, but didn't see how that was possible. Sure enough He showed Himself to me after I one night simply "trusted" Him in a step of faith. It's been many years now, but He is faithful through it all. God bless you for sharing with young people as you do. I would have been drawn if I heard you. :)
Seek and you will find. ask and you will be answered. KNOCK and the door will be opened.
@@dogelife7901 Absolutely true, wherever one is at.
@@clearascrystal4960 another step as you grow in the faith is trusting in everything you do. All day long, every moment during the day.. I took a huge step of faith in learning more after becoming a believer. I've learned that my step each day in faith has produced an amazing amount of love that God has returned in my favor because of that faith. After learning more, I've noticed in the Book of Daniel there was faith among Daniel and god blessed him because of his faith. Also Jesus even mentioned "if you abide in me, then I will abide in you". Since we are the branch, we must first abide in the vine in order to produce more fruit in our lives. Time and time God has showed me more as I continue to learn more and seek him all day, every hour, every minute...all day long.. AMEN!
@@midwestflying3461 That certainly blessed and helps me. I'm reading more of the scriptures these days, and speaking more to the Lord during my day, trying to "abide in Him", especially in these uncertain days it helps. God Bless you.
@@midwestflying3461 Amen you have an amazing viewpoint and you know Scripture God bless you sister.
When he said "i am trying to introduce you to the closest friend i have, Jesus Christ," I smiled so big. I just couldn't even contain it
It made me smile as well. Jesus is 💯 my best, trustworthy, loving, compassionate and powerful friend. I started watching Cliffe about 9 or 10 months ago now and so happy he has years of footage available.
I pray you’re doing well a year after making this comment. God Bless. 🙏💕
I just absolutely love how every time he starts his answer he does this stance like he is about to get hit by a linebacker.
At 8:03 lol
I love how he looks like an owl he is wise he has Godly wisdom and walks in the light and the darkness doesn’t like him you saw the girl she just walked of in defiant way she couldn’t stand in the light anymore
In German we'd say he looks " stabil " . 😂 It means " stable " .
I was wondering about that; I think it’s because he is so tall, he wants to be at their eye level, so he doesn’t appear as overpowering. Just wisdom.
"Tackling" the bigger problems hehe
I'm so glad that I was raised in a Christian home and that I haven't walked this earth for over fifty years guessing what life is all about, working for the glory of God.
Who is your God ?
@@robertoarriola-bustamante9169 The one and only !!!!
@@jeffreytott6403 who?
@@robertoarriola-bustamante9169 what are you ignorant?
@@jeffreytott6403 it's a simple cuestion why are you getting mad and calling me ignorant
I'm a skeptic through and through. It disturbs me when people, especially those who call themselves Christians, misrepresent Christ. So grateful for these vids!
@Whit U, could you give an example of how you think Christians misrepresent Christ?
bonnie43uk...
1. Some who call themselves Christians, for example, commit crimes or grossly sin against God and each other, which is self-explanatory, if you're aware of what the scriptures say (eg: the ten commandments).
2. Those who promote the gospel of health, wealth and prosperity (eg: Kenneth Copeland, Benny Hinn, Joel Osteen, etc.) are called Word-Faith teachers, twisting the meaning of the scriptures.
3. Cults like Mormonism and Jehovah's Witnesses use the name of Jesus, but don't teach Jesus is God, as He claimed to be (again, twisting scriptures and adding false doctrines that the Bible does not teach).
4. Many also use the name of Christ for personal gain, such as the father of the boy in the book/movie titled: Heaven is for Real. The boy, now older, claims that his father exploited him for profit.
I could go on, but I think you get the idea. This is why it's important that we not believe everything we are told, that we read the Bible for ourselves, in context, and in consideration of the purpose, culture and time of historical events written therein.
@Whit U. Ah, ok, it's good to be in agreement with you on most of what you wrote, I totally agree with you about people like Copeland, Hinn and others, they are totally exploiting people for monetary gain. And I agree with you that Mormonism and Jehova's witness are cults.
. I'm sure you would vehemently disagree with me though if I told you I think Christianity is also a cult. Albeit a huge global cult, split up into hundreds of smaller cults. If we define a cult as : A social group defined by their religious, spiritual and philosophical beliefs, then I think Christianity fits in neatly into that bracket.
You made an interesting point about reading the bible in context, one of the problems is that as humans we are incredibly diverse in our thinking , how we view what comes off of the written page differs wildly, some people will take a passage literally ( as in Lots wife being turned into a pillar of salt), and others will view it as poetic licence. I'm fairly certain that my reading of page 1 of Genesis will not agree with how you view it. I was discussing this with a person here in these comments the other day regarding Gen 1:16, concerning God making 2 great lights, I was telling him that moonlight is simply the Sun's reflection, he was adamant that the moon had it's own light system and that Gen 1:16 was absolutely correct.
bonnie43uk ...Agreed, for the most part. I don't believe that Genesis was ultimately meant to define science for us, but that it is the foundational history of the the relationship between God and man and how it all started so that we can better understand how we ended up so deprived today. I haven't found any real science that contradicts the Bible's claims, but like you said, one can easily interject his/her own understanding into it. Studying the original language and the meaning of the words used can help clear things up. In countries where everyone owns a smartphone and a computer, access to technology and reference tools gives us no excuse for sloppy interpretation, especially on important topics like the origin of life, God's existence, science, archaeology, philosophy, etc. It's important to be a thorough, fair and responsible investigator of whether there's a God, whether life has intrinsic value and meaning, what God (if He exists) want us to know, what should we do with what we know, and what the result will be of what I tell others (especially in a lazy, gullible, "fast-food" age). This is why I so appreciate intellectual honesty, like you've just displayed. But I loathe when people don't take life, themselves or others seriously and drag others with them into a pool of lies, deceit, cowardice and vices. Some will never know what it means to take the less travelled road or explore the answers to life's questions because they've been programmed to take the easy, fun, pleasurable path. Anyone can do that.
Thanks for your reply. I enjoy these discussions, as a former Christian it's a subject that is close to my heart. I enjoy watching Cliffe's video's and I always tend to side with the students who he debates, their arguments tend to make much more sense to me. These comment discussions are just an extension of the things Cliffe and the students chat about.
It would be good to know a little more about you and your faith, where you're from, why you believe the things you do, etc. I'm in the UK from a town called Swindon, it's about halfway between Oxford and Stonehenge. I'm 58 and male ( i get the odd comment about my name and occasionally get mistaken for a female, that is my fault for choosing the name bonnie I guess.. it was simply a name of a song I liked, I've had that name for over 15 years now and have no wish to change it.). If there is anything you want to ask me about my disbelief I'll be happy to answer. We are probably both keen t think the things we believe are true.I have no doubt that Cliffe believe's 100% that his belief in the gospels is absolutely true. I have my doubts though.
It's so amazing the way you present Jesus Christ to the world. God bless you.
I went to Catholic schools and then came out as gay at 17. I got sucked into the gay lifestyle and turned my back on Jesus, even to the point of mocking Him. Three years ago I had a breakdown. When I was recovering, I felt a pulling towards Jesus and I opened up to Him. Now, I don't have any gay sexual desires anymore and I interact with God every day. I've asked for things and they've come true and when I've been worried about certain things.. they've turned out alright and this has happened lots of times.
Is so concerning that Cliff has to explain the difference between mythology and historical facts to university students. 🤦♂️
They have to explain because Cliffe doesn't understand the difference. I've watched tons of his videos and come to the conclusion Cliffe is dilusional!
Cliffe is genius!
chimpintree...I have also watched tons of these videos and have come to the conclusion that the majority of these students are idiots,i don`t know how Cliffe has the patience with them
@jeremiah sams they are just able to pass exams. They are otherwise not intelligent.
chimpintree - You are delusional. Cliffe is telling folks to examine the evidence from source documents. He isn’t proselytizing, he’s telling children to think critically, and choose the best & most reliable world view.
Unfortunately, most people choose not to accept God because the world has consumed their hearts and their minds. I was one of these people who questioned Him until I allowed Him to change my life. He is willing and He is able! Thank you Jesus! I pray that You continue to work in my life and show me the treasures of Your promises. Thank you Lord!
How can you allow someone to change you if that someone already knows the outcome before it happens?
@@chimpintree My friend, that's where faith comes in. Submitting to His will for my life shows faith in His ability and willingness to do so. There is nothing more important than a relationship with him.
@@chimpintreethat was not a very well thought out question.
Those students are blessed to be visited by this man Amen.
It is refreshing to see people on both sides being so patient and respectful.
Cliffe is a better teacher than all of their "professors"... thank God.
cliff is a deceiver
@@Blackhebrew01 Please, explain why you think so as I don't agree.
@@ev2175 why I think so what, you have to be more specific.
@@ev2175 Cliff is Preaching Christianity, out of that same Bible in Psalms 147:19-20 The Most High God says that He gave His laws statues and commandments to the children of Israel, when you sin you are breaking the laws statues and commandments. He hath not dealt so with any Nation, means he doesn't deal with the other Nations. So if He doesn't deal with the other Nations, then they are not subject to God's laws, Am I crazy for saying that, no listen what Amos 3:1-Here this word that the Lord hath spoken against you, O Children of Israel, notice that He said I children of Israel He didn't say anybody else, He said I children of Israel, against the whole family which I bought up from the land of Egypt,saying, You only have I Known, of all the families of the earth, God Is saying I don't know these other Nations of people, I don't care about them, but because I know you, and I gave my laws statues and commandments to you, you're the one I'm going to punish for your sins. And to show you that God doesn't care about the other Nations read Isaiah 40:15, so if Cliff is teaching Salvation to a people to whom there is no Salvation, he is a deciever.
@@Blackhebrew01 Well the writer of the psalm says that. That God has done this for no other nation, that they do not know his laws. This makes you ask the question, why? And if you read from genesis up to that point you see how God honours His promises with Abraham and his descendants, so it isn’t an issue of favouritism per se. Additionally it doesn’t mean that God would never deal with others nations, don’t twist what you read or make it to appear one way when that isn’t the point being made. Also, in the New Testament we are shown that Gods purpose was for everyone to know Him and he shows us this by the fact that he wants everyone to know the good news (the gospel). So, to insinuate from a psalm written at one point in time for a specific purpose, that God doesn’t want to deal with the rest of creation is kind of messy. I don’t think that train of thought is logical.
So much of the spirit of Christ in you. Thank you for showing love and respect to anyone that stand against your closest friend. Jesus loves you, my friend👍. GTG
The young lady walked away reminded me of when they told Jesus they couldn’t accept his teaching
The message at the end it’s SO beautiful. He really is explaining the love of God!
I love this man's preaching !! !!!
The girl says he has good arguments but she can't refute any of it so she chooses to not listen. That sounds pretty closed minded. Most of these kids are just repeating old arguments that they heard from someone, they're not thinking for themselves like they think they are, they're being told how to think.
Exactly. That's how religion works. They tell you not to use your common sense. Just reading Genesis is enough to tell you the bible is nonsense!
@@chimpintree what part of Genesis.
@@truth0077 all of genius is BS. Science has proven that it's all crap. But you can't convince the religiously brainwashed. That's why Trump chose the religious to back him. They're just not smart people. They believe anything they're told. Sad really!
@@chimpintree lol... you just proved you are an ignorant fool. So you voted for this old man that is not doing anything but taking naps. You are brainwashed by CNN and the rest of those great journalists. Yeah Jussie Smollett got attacked by 2 white guys wearing maga hats roflmbo. How is that fake news working out for you. You moron.
@@truth0077 I did not know he claimed they were wearing maga hats lol.
Excellent video Cliffe. I hope that girl keeps asking questions and searching for answers. God bless!
You can see before she attempted to leave, she was considering the realizations in her head but she is still looking for something.
I pray she seeks the Truth and finds Him.
She cant agree because she wont.
Stubborn pride
Also because doesn't have the Holy Spirit. Of course it all sound crazy to her.
And that’s ok. Let her decide. Because no one accepts so quickly. Even if they did they still have doubt at first. And one that accepts is not better that those who do not believe.
Poor thing. I can tell she also needs deliverance. She needs the power of the Holy Spirit to be demonstrated in her life.
She can't agree because she loves sin more than herself.
I am grateful for your work Cliffe. You try so hard to come up with best answers as possible and I respect your effort in doing that.
When Cliffe takes the hands on knees standing stance it takes me back to school as my headteacher did the same thing and he was one of the respected ones.
This is exactly why I have been saying for years that we need an introduction to logic course, and maybe a philosophy course, as a core curriculum class. Apart from maybe language, not one other skill is as important or as commonly needed as a foundational logic.
People are progressively being brought up in what’s been previously termed as “scientism” -the idea that science can’t be wrong - and it couldn’t be further from the truth. This infallibility idea is corrupting the lenses that people look at the world with, and it’s only becoming more dogmatized as time progresses.
No intelligent person has ever said "science can't be wrong". Science is learning. However. I know people who actually think the bible can't be wrong. Now that statement can't be further from the truth!
They take evolution as fact and will claim it to be proven true, e ery time. This is a partial truth. Adaptation and natural selection happen, but the common ancestor does not. Dogs make dogs,, cats cats, humans humans and so on for all recorded history. We don't see any Significant new species, only small changes within kinds.
The problem is this becomes no longer science but historical guessing when we say because there is diversity then everything must have come from each other. It's like finding a wet noodle and then saying it came from a dry noodle, ok fine. But then saying that boiling water turned into a dry noodle and is a common ancestor. It's a big reach, with the fuzzy factor being millions or billions of years and lack of complete fossil evidence to explain it away.
But truly it's a convenient way to dismiss God. Then one can argue all day about evidence and evolution instead of what really matters, rational thought, morality, and purpose.
Because if evolution us true you are just a meat bag. A cosmic mistake and when you die you will no longer exist and the only reason you are alive is meaningless in the grand scheme of evolutionary death. There isnt live nor hate nor anything wrong or right. It all just is.
You are a random gathering of cells cursed with self awareness, but there is no self. Its a fleeting feeling that you are real at all. There is no reason to be good. Take what you can without being caught, dupe as many people as possible, there is no real truth or justice just whims of an advanced apelike species, so live like it.
@@chimpintreeright that’s why this person is suggested there be some sort of class to teach that sort of logical thinking because unfortunately common sense like that is becoming less common
13:44 she couldn't stand not winning the argument that she walked away... wow. Tbh its more saddening than shameful .. rejecting the GREATEST GIFT any human being could receive in this life . !!! 🙏
Not just not winning the argument, but if you think about it, some people don't even want answers to their questions. They just use their questions as reasons to attack the Bible. To them, if it doesn't make sense within the first few minutes, it's bullcrap. They don't take the time to think about what Cliffe is saying. Saddening indeed.
It is sad, but Cliff did a good job of pointing out her hang ups. Any religion that uses a name other than Christianity to describe itself, can it really be Christian? Why separate yourself that way, is it because they dont really accept christ?
I have seem many nondenominational churches pop up for this reason. It's great to have fellowship but if we look at the way Jesus lived what church did Jesus put up a sign outside and meet once a week at?....
Methodist church yeahh ...which has no sound doctrine is the result of that girl. She is the type of girl who would believe all the million avatars of hinduism without a second thought but have a hard time believing in Jesus Christ.
Her heart is so hardened
This video was done 5 years ago. I hope that, wherever this lady is now, she has been able to find a way to engage with Christian seperate from her Church experience up to that date. It's so hard to do. But I'm so praying for a revival based on CHRIST and not on Church to rise.
You know cliff has re introduced the concept of loving my enemies to me. And so I've come to this conclusion and this is what it sounds like. What is the very heaviest thing you have ever lifted. And tiktok fashion "I'll go 1st" I thought at 1 point in time that the very heaviest thing I've ever lifted was The burying of my son 15 years ago He was 24. Now after lift listening to cliff I have come to the conclusion that the absolute very heaviest thing to lift is to love your enemies love people that do you wrong love people that hate you love people that work against you that is the very heaviest thing we will ever lift in our lives and the best part is we don't have to do it by ourselves we have help through Jesus Christ. Forgive me if I've already stated this somewhere else but I strongly believe in this.
I'm so glad he expressed the difference between having trust in Christ as opposed to "religion" or "Christianity" itself. I've tried to explain the differences to others. He did it so well! So many people want to assume that because of the Crusades, the Inquisition, the Witch Hunts, etc. in the name of the "church" that they were God's doing and that he sanctioned them. Those were the actions and choices of Men through Free Will. And this is one of the hardest things that many non believers or even those who have lost their faith have a hard time understanding. His explanation of the difference between the two so far is the best that I think I've ever heard. Well done!
11:00 this girl is just so obtuse and stuck in her way... this is why after many years of arguing with atheists irl and on discord.. I just gave up and lost my patience trying to rationalize with these people the way Cliffe is doing, that's why I have mad respect for Cliffe 'cause I see him out doing this year after year with amazing responses, and have to deal with these blind hedonists that are just 100% unwilling to listen to reason and logic. They'll take 100% reason and evidence straight in the face, and still just shake their head and walk away with zero evidence of their own, it's almost pointless this day and age in this post-modern generation these kids are indoctrinated into evolution and post modernism beyond saving, without God breaking them down and them losing everything they'll never find him.
13:39 When the lady walked away, she was hit hard by conviction of the HOLY Spirit but her free will's too strong and resisted to submit. I pray the LORD will open her heart and mind.
The hardest thing to do in this world, is to deny yourself, and take up the cross of Jesus Christ, and put your faith in him and only him, not yourself. We all struggle with this because we are so attached to this earthly world and our preception of life. We live in the physical and not the spiritual aspect of life, which makes connecting with God so hard to do. I constantly have to remind myself that I cannot control everything and I need God to lean on for direction.
Another great video. Thanks for the upload.
That girl is living for herself. She is the god of her own life. It shows that she is seeking or interested, ‘cause out of all the things she chose to do in life, she’s talking to a Christian asking questions.
I pray for those youth that walked away, and still seemed very doubtful. I pray that Jesus got through to them through your evidence based teaching. Thank you for all you do for these youth and for as many people you can reach. God bless you, Pastor.
I know this discussion happened way back, but as the first girl opened up about being a long time methodist goer as a child and how she suddenly thought things are not making sense, I can see that she is extremely close into being converted in just a few more realizations and I found myself praying for her. I hope she has found her way back to Christ by now.
i was missing out .so much knowledge! thanks God
What i like most about these videos is that they get people talking not only in the videos but in the comments as well!!! Thats where we have wrong in society today we've lost the ability to communicate with each other!!!
It's a shame that young lady doesn't agree with God
Is cliffe god?
Boblarson lol indeed he is.
Which god?
@Srk Do you mean "Jesus Christ" the character that fits in to the classification of mythical characters in all of the Mystery Religions of the surrounding areas - "Jesus" just being the Jewish interpretation of what Egypt, Mesopotamia, Persia, etc.. also had. Jews were late to the party so they just copied almost exactly what the other cultures around them did. If you look at all the other mystery religions of those regions and approximate timeframes, you will be shocked to see what appears to be a blatant rip-off of christianity, except, all those other religions came first.. Sorry.
She thinks Religion is what God is or wants ,
Dang Cliff never misses a beat!
They want to believe in ANYTHING but the TRUE God who created them because he demands morality
Dang, I wanted to see Cliffe talk about the whole Science and Bible thing. What the college student said is false. Science and the Bible actually line up together perfectly. A lot of Scriptures told us of many things that Science later on discovered.
That girl is narrow minded and I believe she was ultimately mad at Cliffe for him being so intellectually reasonable and polite.
Keep up the SPIRIT Cliff
It is a sad world we have to keep praying, especiially 4 this young less experience people Amen
Pardon me for stopping the video and commenting without finishing, but I was jarred by the young ladies's question/comment about what makes us (humans) different than apes and monkeys that we would have a religion to explain creation. Perhaps if she has attempted to talk to apes and monkeys, she has an enlightened conversation, but I think the difference between human beings and apes and monkeys is different despite any evolutionary theory.
Loved this one. Good bless all
universities don't teach critical thought -- they teach conformity and regurgitation.
Wow cliffe you went from using a potato for a camera to IMAX cameras >> lol crazy detail
I think you tube upload quality changed.
Not looking good for a pastor to have those expensive cameras around students? Huh? Are you kidding me? I've heard some dumb things in my time but come on. So it's ok for everyone else to have expensive camera's EXCEPT a "pastor"? You're telling me that pastors should use cheap technology at all times, especially when speaking at public and private universities? Come on man!
You're welcome. Judging a pastor by the price of his camera's is silly and trivial given the fact that these video's reach millions of people. Btw, I have nothing against you, but my name is Daniel, not "Dan".
My apologies! I am sincerely sorry!
You're a good man.
Just wonderful interactions. So great to watch and learn. ❤
God is love .🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏❤️❤️❤️
Some can't and will not get it psalms 147 v 19 He sheweth his word unto Jacob, his statutes and his judgments unto Israel.
20 He hath not dealt so with any nation: and as for his judgments, they have not known them. Praise ye the Lord.
When I first began to think about trigonometry it did not make sense after a year I finally made an A in the class
Evolution is not fact 🤦🏻♂️. I don’t know why you dodged that one! It’s so easy. Evolution is a THEORY!
He's not debating him, he's trying to open their minds. If he attacked evolution which is that kids religion, he would have shut down to new ideas and been defensive.
Not only that but evolution can't explain how life began. Cant account for the Cambrian Explosion and cannot explain Irreducible Complexity. Ref: James Tour, William Lane Craig, Michael Behe and Stephen Meyer.
Who said he dodged anything???????🤔
The irony of the first younf lady is she says everything about what Cliff believes "collapses" despite the fact he successfully gave real answers to every one of her questions and she had no rebuttal for any of it. With each question she continued with, you begin to see her true intention for being there, it wasnt to learn what Cliff is teaching, it was to prove him wrong from the start. She is both out of her depth and set on her course at the same time.
can't believe these kids go to a university, what kind of educational the usa gives their citizens people judging without reading the source, people don't know the difference between mythology and historical record /:
Just because you gather a collective understanding,
Doesn’t always make it true.
A lot of people can believe they’re truth is right, but have NO EVIDENCE TO PROVE they’re collective
Belief
Cliffe's expression when his eyes are wide is a bit like Tom Baker's when playing Dr Who and is excited:)
@4:15 there is a blindfolded woman in the background or maybe it's a mask. What the heck? LOL
Curiously, they chose to end this video directly after Cliffe is intelligently challenged on the reality of science.
Very good Video Presentation
Thanks for your awesome amazing videos!!!!
Is Cliffe getting better or what ? Our purpose as saved people, is to do unto others as was done unto us, in the best possible way. We got saved remember. Therefore with our care and love for others we have the duty of spreading the good news, because others spread it to us. The gospel quenched our thirst and gave us peace. What are we if we do not offer living waters to the thirsty. 1Peter 2:9 But Ye are a chosen generation, a royal priesthood, an holy nation, a peculiar people, that Ye should show forth the praises of Him who hath called you out of darkness into His marvellous light. I wonder if those of us as students, I include myself who is 70'in May, who watched Cliffe the teacher would have become effective at soul winning without his example? We teach and preach to save souls. We are allowed the privilege of assisting God by pointing the people to Him. We are pointers. We tell them when they ask us why we do what we do, that we do it because they are unaware of why they have been born. They know not why they are here. Yes it's true, we are here to love and serve God and our fellowman. But loving and serving God and our fellowman is the outworking of our purpose which is to gain our inheritance from God of everlasting life in heaven.
fact like evolution? this guy skipped too many classes
Hope you don't mind me butting in.
Repentance is the realization that we have failed in our mission to live the way God designed us to and have rejected him. Repentance happens naturally and cannot be forced. When you truly accept that Christ is who he said he was, it happens. The Holy Spirit convicts us of our sins and we feel it and want to stop.
You may hear some people say repentance means to stop sinning and never doing it again. Although you will get a new heart that wants to please God and stop sinning, we can never be perfect in our behavior. That is why Christ suffered and died for us. He had to pay the cost for all our sin.
But Christ is faithful in that if we confess our sins to Him, He will is faithful to forgive us.
Hope that helps..
i understand you both :)
Be ye perfect... as our Lord is perfect. It is imperative that we change.
"Evolution" is far too drastic a term. I'd settle on Adaptation.
@@fredpickles5655 action speaks much louder than words. Repent and help those that you victimized
Tgere are no contradictions between science and the Bible. The more the discoveries, the more it leads to think about intelligent design.
Isn’t it awesome how an 18 year old girl has everything worked out? Her extensive life experience can’t even get her to where she understands the point that Cliffe is making.
It’s either that or she just simply doesn’t want to see his point because once you verbalise that a point has been made, you need to deal with it as an actual option.
I know a bit about the United Methodist Church in the USA having married a young woman about this girl’s age when I graduated from college. Methodists don’t believe the Bible is the inspired word of God, and now they believe it contains contradictions and errors. They teach hell & Satan are concepts or analogies to convey the difference between right & wrong, good & evil. They intertwine Evolution & Deep Time with Christianity, and develop what I would consider a False Gospel. Jesus is taught to have been a highly “evolved” and enlightened teacher, and certainly not God, born of a Virgin. This runs contrary to the gospels according to Matthew, Mark, Luke, and John. Therefore, it is not surprising how this young woman has turned away from a false religion.
Methodist church isn't a sound doctrine church . Most of the Western Christians stopped teaching the kids about gospel where as we in Asian Christians are persecuted for following Christ and we are more strong in Christ than we ever now. We take Jesus Christ more seriously than anything in life.
It is strange to me how people will say they will not believe in Jesus, can not anymore, or do not understand Jesus or faith, but at the same time, they do absolutely NOTHING to even check the facts of the reliability of Jesus out! They will be staunch in their disbelief yet totally ignorant of the evidence of reliability for Christ. I run into this ALL the time.
Very good.
To the first girl who walked away, some people will put up a guise as their reasoning being rational when most times its either emotional or volitional. I think it’s more emotional with her and maybe somewhat volitional cause she seems to be hurt by her upbringing. He tried to reason with her philosophically, and it wasn’t resonating. When it’s emotional no amount of logic, evidence, or reasoning will reach that person. It will all sound like nonsense especially if the person is not looking to reason, and pretend its based on rationality.
🙏🏽God bless you Cliffe 🙏🏽
Psalms 100:5
For the LORD is good; his mercy is everlasting; and his truth endureth to all generations.
I'm not a fan of when Cliffe allows questioners to constantly bring up the Crusades, Inquisitions and other alleged acts of Christian violence and hypocrisy. He doesn't do a good job of cutting through the fallacies and historical illiteracy: Such events had very little to do with actual teachings of Christ and were instead power grabs by men under the cloak of following faith and religion. The Inquisition in particular was about expanding and consolidating Roman Catholic power: It had virtually nothing to do with actual faith teachings. Same for the Salem Witch Trials. The Crusades, unless one is a total historical illiterate, was largely Christian defensive actions against centuries of prior Islamic aggression and belligerence. Basically, these are just poor examples brought up by people who don't have a solid historical understanding.
read the gospels please
That basketball stance.
I have heard the Heaven is for Real boy, Colton Burpo in person more recent than this video and he is not saying it was false.
I know right? Why did that guy in the video say it was false. Doesnt make any sense
I always wonder why people who claim to be Christian want to shut Cliffe down. They should shake his hand.
I feel bad for the blonde girl because you can tell her spirit is stirring and you can tell she's hurt/struggling from something. I hope she found her way.
Good stuff!
Knew the lady from 4:00 during my time at txst. Very kind lady.
The boy at the beginning is misinformed. Colton Burpo (the kid behind the book, Heaven is for Real) is still is standing by his story. What I think he's confusing, is that there was another book written in 2010, that kid is saying he made everything up, not Colton.
The latter did yes, it doesn't discredit the other person's report.
I would love to converse with Cliffe Knechtle about the Trinity doctrine. He is very intelligent and as he says in this video, be skeptical! The Trinity is one of those doctrines that historically has deep rooted problems. I would love to see if Cliffe will continue being honest and face the overwhelming evidence against this Roman Catholic foundation. I have had a little online discussion with Dr. Reeves. I also have done several videos on Dr. Reeves and his University teachings.
The Trinity is impossible to grasp by a limited human intelligence. But that’s no reason to disbelieve. Belief in God Who exists from eternity is a similar difficulty. As close as l can get to having some insight into the Blessed Trinity is the human family. We are created in the image and likeness of God according to Genesis. ThAt image is best seen in family. None of us is entirely independent. We are part of a family, 3 in One. We are individuals, yet we cannot exist but for our mother and father. All of nature mirrors the Trinity to us.Biblical interpretation is difficult. This is seen in a fractured Christianity. That is why Jesus left us a Church to interpret properly and define doctrine. He didn’t leave us to wander in a mist, trying to interpret the Bible. He left a church to guide us . Blessings
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The bible is of no private interpretation. What that means is that it can be understood by the common man. Professing a Trinity that is still a mystery and difficult to grasp is not coming from scripture. It is coming from philosophy, and allegorical interpretation.
Here lies the confusion!
@@approvedofGod Understood by the common man? Why then is there such debate around so many doctrinal issues? What did Jesus mean when He said: Unless you eat My Flesh and drink My Blood you shall not have life within you.? Catholics and Orthodox take it literally but most other Christians do not. In Gen1v26 God says: Let us make man in our own image. Plural. All nature is trinity , the image and likeness of God. So some things we just have to accept as beyond our full understanding. That’s why He’s God and we His creatures. Blessings
@@larryluch8178
Nonsense Larry. The bible is simple. It is men who add or take away from scripture, that brings confusion and division.
"Unless you eat my flesh . . ." is Jesus speaking "spiritually." Just keep on reading and you find;
"the words that I speak unto you, they are spirit, and they are life" (John 6:63).
The same goes for Genesis 1:26. Follow the text and see that 1:27 is disproving a plurality of divine persons. Go to the actual place where God created man and then woman, and you see only one God person. See Genesis 2:7, 21, 22. God alone created Adam and Eve.
John 6:63
Gen 2:7
And the Lord God formed man of the dust of the ground, and breathed into his nostrils the breath of life; and man became a living soul.
Isa 44:24
Thus saith the Lord, thy redeemer, and he that formed thee from the womb, I am the Lord that maketh all things; that stretcheth forth the heavens alone; that spreadeth abroad the earth by myself;
God said "by myself!"
@@approvedofGod Speaking spiritually? That would certainly make life much simpler . I wonder why Catholics and Orthodox have believed otherwise for 2000 years? One of the most recent Eucharistic miracles took place in Buenos Aires in 1996. Thorough lab scrutiny of the miraculous specimen confirms Catholic/Orthodox belief. Not to believe in the Trinity means Jesus is not God. That puts you outside the Christian tradition. Islam and Jews teach God but not the Trinity. The Bible can be used to teach many things but only the Catholic Church has the authority from Jesus to go ye therefore teach all nations . Jesus establishes one church, not thousands preaching and teaching a variety of doctrines. Our Savior desires clarity, not a babble of voices confusing people. So as you can see l have submitted my intellect to the doctrine of the Catholic Faith. Ave Christus Rex
this young kids easily gets to their conclusion based from the opinions of others just because of academic hierarchy without even spending time studying all faiths. Most of the kids here wants the easy way rather than finding the truth by themselves by studying and investigate.
Pitiful generation.
Very good explanation
😂😂Nahhh Ik they get mad when he truly answers their questions. Girl went from asking questions to asking why are you here 😂
Fact check: That opening guy pointed out a retracting and got it wrong. The kid who retracted was not the kid from Heaven is for Real. It was different case. He was thinking of "The Boy Who Came Back from Heaven".
I noticed that.
"What education do you have" what does that have to do with anything
I was born a believer and will always be a believer...
James 5:16
Confess your faults one to another, and pray one for another, that ye may be healed. The effectual fervent prayer of a righteous man availeth much.
I think light is a particle but displays properties of a wave.
Hardcore Absolute Fact: This young lady is afraid to be excluded from society and called out for being truthful about reality ( because her enemy is relentless)! She values pleasing human beings simply to fit in! That is extremely low IQ and cowardly!
"Facts such as evolution." Evolution is STILL a theory.
I hope she put her faith in Christ.
4:14 what's with the blindfolded girl😂
It is interesting to me how it is almost always students, not professors, that debate Pastor Cliffe. They almost all state the same "facts" but do not cite references. The pastor offers citations and strong, logic based arguments with an humble spirit while the students dismiss his claims and have an attitude of arrogance. Every campus has the same kind of disdain for his arguments. What does this say about our educational system as a nation?
The very 1st person speaking looked like Cliffs son, Robert, in disguise!
This girl as so many people confuse organized religion with the Word of God!
Forget about your church for now, and read the Bible to learn his word and follow his will. Religious institutions are created and run by man. They have their agenda and seek to achieve their objectives.
God is great, God is God, God loves us.
When the Advocate comes, whom I will send you from the Father-the Spirit of truth who goes out from the Father-he will testify about me,
John 15:26
Thank God for reality, laws of nature, laws of motion, laws of morality, laws of physics, and rational thought. God, the best scientist for time immemorial!
Heaven is for Real, kid Todd Burpo NEVER re-canted his experience - this questioner is WRONG
I just can’t because I love my sin is what she means
Exactly!
That first girl was asking good questions but wasn't receiving a single thing that he said. She could not separate religion and Jesus; even when Cliffe made it very simple. All she did was say "I appreciate that, but I don't agree".
_"Beloved, believe not every spirit, but try the spirits whether they are of God: because many false prophets are gone out into the world. Hereby know ye the Spirit of God: Every spirit that confesseth that Jesus Christ is come in the flesh is of God: And every spirit that confesseth not that Jesus Christ is come in the flesh is not of God: and this is that spirit of antichrist, whereof ye have heard that it should come; and even now already is it in the world."_ -- 1 John, chapter 4, verses 1 through 3 (from the King James Bible)
Huh I notice that there is a girl blindfolded, is she making a statement or is her friends getting her a fun surprise or what?