Katy Tur on her memoir "Rough Draft"
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- Опубликовано: 11 июн 2022
- As a child, broadcaster Katy Tur would often fly in her parents' helicopter while her mom and pilot dad helped report news from above Los Angeles. But she says life with her demanding father was often given to fits of rage. As she writes in her new memoir, "Rough Draft," Tur tells the story of her parents, and about a dramatic change that came as a shock to her. Correspondent Tracy Smith reports.
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05:50 I think the dadd inability to acknowledge the violence and to somehow justify it because "he was in the news business", gives me a little bit of insight as to why he's not in Katys life.
He did acknowledge the violence. Here's some more insight. I read about Zoey Tur's transition in March 2015 in an _Los Angeles Times_ article "For Zoey Tur, a new life as transgender woman takes flight".
_“Did I want to be laughed at?” Tur said. “Known as a man in a dress? A clown? No, but I had no choice._ TMZ _’s Harvey Levin called me in 2013 and said, 'We’re going to do this story [on your transition]. Will you cooperate?’ ”_
_Tur has been asked why she waited so long to take the gender leap. She says she wanted to wait until her two children were grown. Regardless, the transition has caused a rift in her family. Tur said her daughter, an NBC News correspondent, is not on speaking terms anymore. Relations with the ex-wife are “horrible.” Her son, a medical school student, is supportive._
The 2015 article did not mention why Katy was no longer on speaking terms anymore with her father. Now through this interview with Katy, I know why.
@@RaymondHng Thank U for that info and I will look online for that article to read his POV.
In a previous work she chronicles the sarcastic abuse of trump during the 2016 campaign.
Her father put his hand on the throat of Ben Shapiro on a panel moderated by Dr. Drew so clearly the transition did nothing to cease the violent tendencies. I’m glad she is choosing to keep her distance.
Keith Olberman has something to say about Katy Tur! If you have the guts to want to know the truth about Tur!
The father still diminishes his rage and the terrible harm he now she,, caused.
still a he.
Check out the father's threatening behavior towards Ben Shapiro. Watch "When transgender debate gets heated" video. He's obviously an intimidating man, even when he's a "woman" in a group setting, who's easily angered and has no impulse control. He tells Shapiro "that he'll be going home in an ambulance" because he called her "sir".
Keith Olberman has something to say about Katy Tur! If you have the guts to want to know the truth about Tur!
"IF" the kids felt I was intimidating, I apologize.
Dude, you're still not taking responsibility.
I had photographed Bob Tur for the then Los Angeles Times Magazine. The story was about how Bob was the helicopter pilot that was involved in the OJ Bronco chase. His wife Marika was working in the office that day at the Santa Monica Airport. He took me up in the helicopter as part of my photo story. So sad his kids and wife had to go through the violence.
“If it takes an act of public humiliation for Katy to feel better…” These are the words of someone who’s not willing to even begin to understand the consequences of their actions. As a daughter whose parent was abusive, the last thing I ever wanted was to humiliate my abusive parent. I’m glad he’s finally able to live his truth, but it’s not surprising they’re estranged.
I lived under severe abusive RAGES my doctors would definitely DISAGREE with you.
Really? I would. I would tell the world.
I empathize so much. Her violent Dad, my violent mother. If this violence is happening to you, leave and don't look back. Save yourself. They don't deserve any more chances.
I appreciate the candor.
Why? It’s none of our business.
@@lewstone5430 Says the person who acknowledged watching the interview in the first place. Projecting, much?
Katy,
You are brave and will give others courage to speak the truth about their families.
Briana Graham-Ramos she’s making money off family squabbles. Pretty mercenary and greedy.
You have got to be nuts for thinking she's brave. She gets paid alot of money to lie.
Excellent story. Thank you for sharing this eye-opening news.
Great story Katy. Thank you,
Keith Olberman has something to say about Katy Tur! If you have the guts to want to know the truth about Tur!
I started listening to this story on Fresh air on NPR, got home and could not get out of my car, had to sit and listen to the end
Bravo Katy - you told your story because you have one. It is a very good story; real, honest and relatable to many. Thank you for your courage , it must be cathartic and also empowering to be able to show all the layers in your life, so far. I wish you new layers of joy and promise with your husband, family, friends and career. Go Katy!
What I’ve learned in nearly 75 years is just this: this journey is all about forgiveness and acceptance. And that’s called love…..it’s setting yourself free…….
Am a fan of her reporting... so looking forward to reading her work
Wow
Wow! I admire Katy TUR even more. What a life story.
Life of a liar!
@@guilbertbabcock6500 Says the unaccomplished nobody.
She is fab. All happiness to her.
Then waste your money on the book.
@@frankrocco7989 good. there isn't a person more worthy of it than Katy.
Thank you for sharing..
Keith Olberman has something to say about Katy Tur! If you have the guts to want to know the truth about Tur!
she has nothing to lie about. things were done to her that were not her fault. i didn't have positive feelings about her father before watching. they are even less so now. not everything can be forgiven. sometimes you make your peace with it. sometimes that is a better option.
Throwing things and punching walls is not doing the best you can.
Your parents should have done more of it, obviously. Look how you've turned out. The Great Disappointment.
Right?!?
Amen!
I like Katy; her voice , well spoken and easy to my ears; and ‘down to earth ‘
Oh Katy, you are such a wonderful woman. I am so fond of you and your reporting. You are an awesome woman.
Keith Olberman has something to say about Katy Tur! If you have the guts to want to know the truth about Tur!
@@everlastinggobstopper4569 sure, where do I find it.
I love katy tur so much
California raised families!!!!
She more then held her own with the MAGA man.
@@Lettuce-and-Tomatoes Hush, fool. And I do mean fool.
@@Lettuce-and-Tomatoes I think that’s called projection
So proud that they are from Los Angeles
Sad to hear. Proud of you, empathy for you.
Be well
Be safe
sv
Wow its great to know you. And what a story. You're darn tootin that you need to tell this story. You got me at 'my mom and dad owned a helicopter'. You've made a fan out of me.
I normally don’t buy celebrity books but this one seems interesting. Her dad is a lot like mine was. I remember the trips to the store for plaster.
Read her last one… It also was good!
my advice ..Katy ,don't go see your formerly known as Dad / trans mother ......this person damaged you and your co-dependent mother ...I see so much hurt in your expressions ........and even if Dad felt like the gender was female all along ....that would just make that parent a VIOLENT woman , her trans parent sounds low-key threatening still , if you break down their language
Yeah that singing down the road thing was odd
She is awesome. ♥️♥️♥️♥️♥️♥️
Her dad has freely expressed regret in public interviews for "past behavior," yet is incapable of making amends face to face. Not much to work with there. 🤷♂️ Miraculous that Katy turned out so well. Help is widely available, and she's reaped the benefits from braving the hard work of recovery. Regrettably it is the road less travelled, to borrow the book title.
Damage to kids of ragers is insurmountable for many, and untreated trauma passes like poison from gen to gen. The current epidemic of adult tantrums is a telling tale. My own road was _extremely_ rocky. Katy knows very well that sharing her story could help some survivor somewhere. Brilliant, beautiful woman.
Excellent reply. Thought out and very insightful!
Good interview 👏👏👏🏽
Wow, that’s a lot to go through. I appreciate her honesty and vulnerability in telling this story. Thanks for sharing.
I read her book...excellent !!
Her father is still angry. (Watch their response to Ben Shapiro's comment.) I heard Katy Tur interviewed on Fresh Air and it's a sad story. Katy Tur might have grown up with a lot of excitement but in the end, her story is a sad one. I'm sure writing this book was cathartic for her.
the ben shapiro moment is stunning. i still do not understand why Dr Drew did not ask Tur to leave the stage.
@@jv-ep2tc I'm sure ratings played into that decision :)
@@jv-ep2tc
He was scared
Abusive RAGES DAMAGE CHILDREN.
“You cut that out now or you’ll go home in an ambulance.” - Zooey Tur ruclips.net/video/YgQy70_LPS4/видео.html
@@melissamoore2678 You are only quoting the final sentence. The topic was about Caitlyn Jenner receiving the Courage Award and Shapiro continued to disrespect transgender people by insisting that Jenner was delusional and continued to refer to Jenner as "him". When another guest admonished him for being disrespectful for not using Jenner's preferred pronouns. Shapiro replied, "Forget about disrespect...Don't care about your feelings." Tur later said, "You're not educated [about transgender people]. You don't know anything about genetics." And Shapiro shot back with "What about your genetics?" Then Tur calmly said, "You cut that out now...or you will go home in an ambulance."
@@RaymondHng Violence, threats & bullying are never acceptable. Also, it’s very male patterned behavior. Lastly, it’s impossible to change sex. Anyone born male will die male.
Very insightful interview. She’s quite a survivor.
I love Katy, she is smart, gorgeous and always happy
@3:25 . . . did they charge him with assault and BATTERY ? ?
Interesting story. It's hard to understand what goes on with people when you look from the outside and it can be hard for people directly involved to be objective as well. We all tell our story the way we need to and hopefully over time we soften our stances and see all the shades of grey; life is complicated.
Well said.
Priceless integrity and credibility on Katy's behalf....
Always liked her persona….this is refreshingly courageous and hopefully a bit healing for her
I've always respected Katy Tur for her strength and professionalism but even more so after hearing about her upbringing. I understand how and why Katy is estranged from her father, she (he) diminishes her (his) impact that her (his) violence had on the family and is a narcissist who isn't genuinely apologetic. I'm the same age as Katy and there's a time when your hold your parents accountable in a serious way with boundaries and consequences. Parents can no longer gaslight you about what you know your childhood was. Bravo and much happiness to Katy and family.
Back on the meds, Carla, back on the meds now.
@Beth Youngblood This is my truth and point of view. If you don't like it, don't read it. This is a free platform. You cannot control anyone here. Have a good Sunday doing something more productive than trolling comments.
Why are there always the Beth Youngbloods?
Katy, just remember, the act of forgiveness is for ourselves, OUR OWN benefit,..NOT the people we forgive 😘
there is nothing worse than pressuring someone to forgive. Katy seems to have made her peace with the past, that is a gift to herself that makes sense.
When you're born for your career.🚁🚁🚁🚁🚁
Families….we don’t get to pick them….It has taken a lifetime to forgive …with bless them and change me. No I do not see or visit my family of origin but I live freely with no anger or guilt because I entered therapy to straighten out the horrific mess and cleanup my side of the street. I have done that.
I'm sure they're wholly disappointed, Ann. Oh, yes.
@situated4 : And, oh yes, to you:
People who judge don’t matter and people who matter don’t judge.
The father has gone mad.......
The fact that she dated Keith Olbermann is, perhaps, her greatest failure.
That shows the damage to her psychologically
Memoirs are great to construct; slows down the mind to register meticulous detail. Hope I get mine out there someday.
I hope you do too!
One page at a time, Steve
Katy Tur is one of my favorites on MSNBC, along with Joy Reid, Rachel Maddow, Nicolle Wallace, and Andrea Mitchell.
you like intellectuals apparently. lol
You like intellectuals and that rocks
And her ex Keith Olbermann?
@@carina9295 They are all partisan hacks.
BOTH of her parents really hurt Katy, which explains why she is a troubled woman.
Kate I watch you everyday on MSNBC. ♥️♥️♥️
Fits of anger over nothing sounds like borderline personality disorder
sounds like P0S personality.
that zoey gal has a really strong chin for a gal
Ok, what I understand about anything trans is severely limited. I never experienced family violence at all. So what Katy and I have in common is not so much. At least along those lines.
I do have an immense amount of respect for her, and I have had it for a long time now. I look forward to reading her memoir for sure.
The phrase “a division of CBS’s parent company” was said in three of today’s stories on Sunday Morning. Need to cast a wider net for content CBS.
Watch something else and realize the same interconnected relationships. Like ABC and Disney/ESPN. That is the way of corporate news media today and it is NOT going back. Or go wholeheartedly support non corporate independent news & contribute money to their needed expenses. Problem solved!
@AljHere128 no. Sunday Morning needs to include books, films, tv etc. from other companies.
Really, that is all you got out of this woman's life story???.You are extremely petty, the type of person that people hate to hang with. So sad, I assume you spend a lot of time judging and not enough doing!!!
@@susanvotroubek7440 It’s just a pattern I’ve noticed with this show. It was a good story. I just don’t like CBS creating stories to profit the company.
Didn’t that was her dad.
Anyways Katy is very beautiful ❤
It’s an interesting story, but I don’t understand why the couple didn’t divorce. Couples work together after divorce. I realize that would have been difficult and might not have worked. She would have needed to collect evidence against him and taken to an attorney. She might have even tried. It’s a shame the children lived through that abuse. I’ve never been an abusive situation of that type, so I won’t judge her. I had an abusive boss. I know the abuse frightens you to the point that you believe there is nothing you can do. Depression and fear completely changed my personality. I finally just quit
A couple divorced means the income that the couple made for their family will be drastically altered. The couple did divorce in 2003 after 23 years of marriage.
U probably have to read her book for more insight into the eventual divorce.
Her husband Tony resembles her father in his younger years.
I am so surprised you said that, I thought the same thing!!!. Handsome!!
@07:43 when referring to being in the news media, she says "it's a business where you're not supposed to lie", but it should have been more correctly put - it's a business where you are absolutely required to suppress and twist the truth, promote agendas, censor and select, etc., on the part of the people that own you (or rather the people that own the company you work for, and the people that in turn own them, all the way up the rotten ladder to the most wealthiest and powerful devils at the top of the pyramid in this world system), but your job is to present it as best you can AS truth, and I think Katy fits that role perfectly.
Katy- I don't know if you will ever read this, but I hope you do. Make up w/ your dad. Let it go, it's not worth it. Someday when you dad passes, you're going to have regret. That regret will never go away. These things that happened in the past just aren't important anymore.
it is not easy to feel good about having someone in your life that raises your stress level to an uncomfortable degree.
I am not a fan of the professional Katy Tur, but after watching this, I respect her point of view and feel should we meet, we could be friends.
Love those eyes! ...and that smile! oh baybayah!
Why is the media reporting on themselves? There is a video in the city of our founding Philadelphia where there are people wandering around like zombies on filthy streets. I feel sorry for these people. Where is the reporting on this?
How about U report on it and let the world know about it? What is wrong with U reporting what U see as an amateur journalist and using social media to tell the story? Why be dependent on the same media U whine about reporting on themselves and their stories to tell of their life? When U just gave us breaking news U could report on. #RealTalk😏😐🙄
ruclips.net/video/fpyHhrDgG5A/видео.html
@@AljIsHere128 We are a long way into solving this issue even if we wanted to. The culture is broken.
@@AljIsHere128 Excellent idea. It’s something anyone with a phone and RUclips can do.
I hate the phrase “I did the best I could.” I made some horrible choices in my younger years but will be the first to say it wasn’t the best I could do. I was raised better than that, I knew better than that and I should have done better than that.
Now the image of that big, buff creep in the women's wig, threatening Shapiro during what's meant to be a civil discussion, makes even more sense.
Jackie with chatue. Boss Cain handshake fire. Many complainers say hidden love with no stomach.
7:49 Steve Hartman meets a little girl who dreams of becoming a Baseball announcer for the Baltimore Orioles coming up on Sunday Morning
Is this that dude from the gas station video?!?!
My parents are abusive but they are great
Katy Tur is not good. She truly should be in a local market and as low rated as MSNBC it’s still too advanced for her skill level. And face it had Trump not embarrassed her when she overstepped she wouldn’t have advanced.
And yet we still call that wife beating man, who threatened a co panellist saying 'ill put you in an ambulance' a woman. Not very ladylike is it?
She aged like milk, wow.
I would marry her if could. 😎
0:01 "she's an award willing journalist" , I literally have never heard of her , media people still think they matter
showing the attack on Denny was in poor taste.
It seems like Katy’s dad was living with such intense rage because he was trapped in wrong body with the wrong gender. perhaps now with her surgery can be the kind of person in her life that can be loving.
Who wants to know?! Another Rich one telling her side??
Wow, she has such beautiful eyes. Yes, I am a simp.
Then why keep her kids from getting to know their grandmother/father?
LOL!!
@@Lettuce-and-Tomatoes ohh do you know him?
Because all I saw was a trans person that after being angry so long as a forced man is now happy with who he is and therefore has let go of all that angered her.
Maybe read the book 🤔
She is still not on speaking terms with him, so her kids will have to get to know their grandfather on their own when they've become independent adults.
To protect them from his rage and problems
Simon and Schuster use CBS to promote their books
Dude needs to be in jail
He 's passive aggressive if it takes
What’s the point of airing all this dirty laundry? To sell a book? Her mother shares the blame regardless of what Katy says. It takes 2 to harm a child, one to abuse, the other to let it go on!
While I agree with you about enough blame to go around I think each person should decide if they’d like to read this book. It could be helpful to someone even if it’s not you in particular
When it comes to public figures, either they tell their own stories on their own terms or someone else will tell their story for them and it most likely will not be on their terms.
I read about Zoey Tur's transition in March 2015 in an _Los Angeles Times_ article.
_“Did I want to be laughed at?” Tur said. “Known as a man in a dress? A clown? No, but I had no choice._ TMZ _’s Harvey Levin called me in 2013 and said, 'We’re going to do this story [on your transition]. Will you cooperate?’ ”_
_Tur has been asked why she waited so long to take the gender leap. She says she wanted to wait until her two children were grown. Regardless, the transition has caused a rift in her family. Tur said her daughter, an NBC News correspondent, is not on speaking terms anymore. Relations with the ex-wife are “horrible.” Her son, a medical school student, is supportive._
The 2015 article did not mention why Katy was no longer on speaking terms anymore with her father. Now through this interview with Katy, I know why.
So it's not airing dirty laundry for these people. They want to set the record on their own terms.
Who???
Katy and her father need to get together. If he were to die, she'd regret not having that meeting for the rest of her life.
Another CBS product promotion
After the overturning of #RoeVWade, men will think twice before getting pregnant. 😂 😂 😂 😂
What an uninteresting story. #whothehellcares
Really, really weird family background. That's how you produce MSNBC journalists.
😂😂😂😂
I was said to be Transgender (MTF) and am familiar with the fits of rage. I still don't know where they came from but I was horrible and frightening to my family. I came out in 2005 and had surgery in 2007, and though I am responsible for it all, I think a part of it was due to PTSD and the Psych drugs that Doctors put me on. My family have forgiven me save for the wife I was married to for 38 years. I feel shame for it all.
I would like to suicide but that would just bring more hurt to my family.
poor Katy, loosing her father to mental disease.
My question is why do these people think they should share personal family affairs with the world? If it’s not self-aggrandizing, what is it?
it's exactly what she said it is, the truth. This is a pretty big thing to ignore when you're writing a book about your life.
@Farah Shabani, well it’s money-making, and the MSM journalist women all push these sorts of books. It gets attention. THIS one fits in a narrative that MSM is pushing so it’s not surprising. It is unseemly to fight these personal family things in public but lots of celebrities do.
@@MTknitter22 wow, Charlotte! You have a lot to say on the subject of how other people handle their own lives and their own business. Also, do you know the difference between “MSM” and the Fox entertainment network? It’s laws! As in the latest case against entertainer tucker Carlson where the presiding judge said you’d have to be an idiot to believe anything he said was true. Do you believe Tucker, Charlotte? Methinks you do. So you should educate yourself!!! It’s not hard. You can do it.
I’d much rather read this book than all the whacky ex Trump administration on their Apology Tour 2022
@@jeffersonkeith8761 I understand she’s within her right like anyone else to write a book about whatever subject she wishes. My criticism is 1) Why she thinks her life story is important for other people to read, hence my conclusion of her self-aggrandizing, and 2) With all the far important subjects that she as a journalist can write, why write about her personal life and her transgender father? Who cares about that?
I hope Katy can and will eventually find it in her heart to reconcile with her father, who is now a woman. Their estrangement must be so painful, and take up so much of her energy.
In my experience, engagement with such an unstable being would be even more painful.
My own parent wasn’t nowhere near as whacked, and more than 15 years after their passing, I have zero regret for booting them out of my life. I wouldn’t go through that bs for any book deal. Peace of mind is far more important than any amount of money.
She can’t stand her father.
*"I'm texting with Katy Tur. Katy(Live On Air) is saying my spin, like verbatim." -Liz Smith - Democratic Strategist for Gov. Andrew Cuomo - November 2021*
DISGUSTING. Yes Katy, you've done more harm than good. You stopped being a journalist a long time ago.
Lol didn’t he tell Ben he’d be leaving in a body bag or something? Clearly transitioning didn’t cure all those old nasty male urges
CBS good morning what a joke.
The third advertisement for a Paramount product in one show!
If it bothers you that much, quit watching!!
@@lynnyhen I’m still holding out hope that the show will return to what it was three years ago!
So what? Not long ago the company was called CBS-Viacom. Are you expecting them to push Comcast-NBCUniversal or Disney?
@@christinacascadilla4473 It's basically the same as it was when Charles Kuralt was the host.
@@yvonneplant9434 no, but someone out there must have written a great work of literature published by a little publishing house that they could tell us about. But instead the pushed this. I respect her suffering but this story just checks a lot of boxes and I’d like to see something else.