Dilly Hussain responds to istighaatha debate
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- Deputy Editor of 5Pillars Dilly Hussain reflects on the tawassul istighaatha debate he chaired between Shaykh Asrar Rashid and Ustad Abdul Rahman Hasan on Saturday 21st May 2016.
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Tawheed and shirk are polar opposites! how can you just "agree to disagree" on such a fundamental principle in Islam! in fact, the the underlying causes of the "more important issues" are a result of Muslims falling into these tribulations!
boy, watch the whole debate. Abdul Rahman clearly changed his opinion a couple of times. Because he recognized something was wrong in his arguments. He couldn't say that it is shirk but he said it is haram since it is something new.
However, Asrar Rashid had achieved all he wanted. He did not wanted to debate with him whether it is haram or not to call upon the prophet in order that the prophet s.a.w. with the power of Allah helps us.
Most of the salafis brothers want watch the whole debate because they are not sincere. But being not sincere in ones attention to find out the truth is bad for you, do not forget.
@@deutscheislamischevereinig6814 I had watched the whole debate, please note all of the 'opinion changes'. The only thing was the before or after death part. Abdulrahman Hassan was upon the correct position.
@@deutscheislamischevereinig6814 asrar rashid was literally done when he said he was ashari
You barelvis aren't sincere
If you saw the debate you'd see how asrar won't answer points
you didn't listen did you. when asking someone for help that Allah swt has given them power to help you, you are not committing shirk. if Allah swt has given Muhammad saw the power to be in the Barzakh while still helping us if we call upon Muhammad saw, surely it is allowed. the same way when the window of the green dome over Muhammad saw's grave was opened, rain came during a time of drought. are you denying this?
@@hassanalialqadiri what you are calling to is pure shirk. The companions never sought the aid of the messenger of Allah after his death. Bunch of Berailvi grave worshippers.
Surah Fatihah is enough to settle this matter. ...'You alone we worship and You alone we ask for help'...1:5
So do you thino Ustad Abdur rahman don't know about this verse ??
Why he didn't mentioned this verse in debate ??
Brother don't say anything if you don't know about the matter
By this analogy, we shouldn't seek help in duniya as well... There shouldn't be any difference then "TAHTAL ASBAAB AND FOKAL ABAAB".. SEEKING HELP FROM DOCTOR OR POLICE WILL BE TERMED AS SHIRK.... BECAUSE SURA FAITHA SAYS " TO YOU ALONE WE ASK FOR HELP ".THIS ANALOGY WILL MAKE MOCKRY OF RELIGION.
Baba is a Hindi Indian who follows Ahmed raza ali khan and his peer babu green turbinators 😂
Lol tafseer be like
Are we available????
Allah also says
@@samahmad8203 My ethnicity shouldn't be any problem to you...
It's the daleel that matters!
Use burnol that might help you.
It was literally a debate between monotheism and polytheism and ya'll act like its a valid difference of opinion.
Well you idiot go and watch the whole debate 😂😂😂your najdi Mullah not even proven his points 😂😂😂
lol watch the debate with a open mind, how can I say polytheism which categorization of shirk does asrars view fall under
@@T.T.T416 how is calling upon anything other than Allah not shirk?
dilly hussain held a great speech. I absolutely agree with you. May Allah bring the muslims together once again. Amin
اَمِين يَا رَبَّ الْعَالَمِيْن
boy, watch the whole debate. Abdul Rahman clearly changed his opinion a couple of times. Because he recognized something was wrong in his arguments. He couldn't say that it is shirk but he said it is haram since it is something new.
However, Asrar Rashid had achieved all he wanted. He did not wanted to debate with him whether it is haram or not to call upon the prophet in order that the prophet s.a.w. with the power of Allah helps us.
Most of the salafis brothers did not watch the whole debate because they are not sincere. But being not sincere in ones attention to find out the truth is bad for you, do not forget.
Frag Mich most of the salafi brothers are not sincere is an interesting accusation. They are trying to follow the sunnah how is that not being sincere?
Can u prove this darood shareef ﷺ from hadith ? 😆
All I heard was Ustadh Abdirahman did bring evidences. This is serious stuff, the other sheikh was waffling most of the time. No clear evidence that support new invention. Let’s be honest. Btw I don’t claim a subsect I’m Sunni Muslim.
Are u serious ustadh abdul rahman hasan smoothly schooled asrar rashid. Asrar had nothing left it wasnt event close. I watched the full debate lol
@@lishaplayss i watched that debate as a nuetral years ago. Abdul rahman did not school him. Thats way biased. If you watch it back he failed to answer alot of simple questions and resorted to preaching, rather than pulling out points and answering. Preaching doesnt win a debate. Just saying shirk shirk doesnt prove anything. Even his 3 requirements he made up, he couldnt prove where he got them from. There was alot of holes left unanswered.
Ironic dilly Hassan wants unity but he doesn’t condemn the takfirist salafist/wahabists
Abdulrahman Hassan failed to address two matters properly:
1. Bring up clear explicit evidence from Quran, sunnah or sayings of early generations about 3 conditions that he mentioned about istaghathah being permissible. He did brought up a verse but did his own istinbad.
2. Asrar Rashid made a good point that shirk is always shirk regardless of periods of time. In dunya, akhirah and barzakh shirk always stays shirk. Abdulrahman Hassan did not explain why something which is not shirk becomes shirk.
Abdul Rahman is a good lecturer and preacher
But preaching doesn't make him winner
He is literally started giving bayaan 😂😂😂😂😂(lecture)
Instead of countering his point
Asrar is smart actually he is good debater too
I think the debate was balance
But Abdul Rahman changed his views many Times during the debate
recommend you to watch the debate again with clear mind you will see whose argument was good and who answered it.
@@hunainalikhan9253 provide me with timestamps and avoid vague statements please.
+@@ember209
@@hunainalikhan9253it is very clear that the “ustad” got embarrassed
Tawassul, intercession after death, was heavily excepted and practiced by the 4 imams and khalaf. imam abu hanifa ra who learned directly from the tail end of the sahaba.
Literally no one has said it is shirk until recently in Islamic history. If you believe it’s shirk you need to give valid arguments and evidence this was the belief of the salaf. To just dismiss it as shirk it’s like saying the 4 imams (who were salaf) are deficient in aqeeda and misunderstood the meaning of tawhid and shirk. And that they possibly allowed and committed shirk, so yes this is a big issue so you must bring your dalil.
Brother, if one understand the difference between tawassul with the status of the prophet sallallaahu alaihi wa sallam, his fadl and love...and istigaatha. Only then will you realise the first is haram and bidah and the second is shirk. If we can't understand this, we should not speak about the Deen of Allah azza wa jalla and bring fourth a clear buhtaan.
Secondly, 4 imams? Really?
You have slandered the great scholars. They are free from what you claim akhi
The debate was a good example of the 'scholars' vs the follower. The history of humanity and the deen is testimony to the fact that many misunderstandings and problems are caused by followers of greater people.
Hadith
Narrated Anas:
Whenever drought threatened them, `Umar bin Al-Khattab, used to ask Al-Abbas bin `Abdul Muttalib to invoke Allah for rain. He used to say, "O Allah! We used to ask our Prophet to invoke You for rain, and You would bless us with rain, and now we ask his uncle to invoke You for rain. O Allah ! Bless us with rain."(1) And so it would rain.
Sahih al-Bukhari 1010
In-book : Book 15, Hadith 5
USC-MSA web (English) : Vol. 2, Book 17, Hadith 123 (deprecated)
Sahih Bukhari
(1) why Didnt umar (Ra) take waseelah of Muhammad (saas) after his death, but of Ibn Abbas ?
Basic rule of Usul: Leaving something does not mean that it is haram.
Furthermore, other sahaba made istighatha after the prophet ﷺ passed away, such as the Hadith of Bilal ibnul Harith and the Hadith of Uthman Ibn Hunayf. Both ahadith are classified as sahih.
Learn the usul.
1) People tried to declare this narration authentic, yet it is not a prove for Istishfa at the grave of the Prophet (saw) because this is the action of an unknown man who is not the Sahabi Bilal, and this narration is opposing the consensus of the Sahabah, and also the dream shows that one should go to alive people for Istishfa and seeking rain and not to dead else why would someone be told to go to ‘Umar instead of the Prophet (saw)? And if the action of this unknown man was from the Sunnah, then it would come from the Sahabah in a Mutawatir way, yet we do not have one authentic narration from any Sahabi doing Istishfa at the grave of the Prophet (saw).
2) hadith
Other shahabi was during the lifetime of prophet, no one denies it the hadith from Bukhari clearly States that when prophet was present among us we would ask Allah through Prophet
@@tawwabali4419 Ibn Hajar says that the sahabi was Bilal ibnul Harith al Muzani. Others say the same thing.
The sahabi goes after he makes ISTIGHATHA at the grave of the prophet ﷺ, he goes to Umar and tells him what happened. Umar doesn’t declare him a mushrik, which tells us that it is not shirk and not even haram.
Show me how the narration is opposing the consensus?
@@omark7164 Firstly: We do not accept that this story is authentic since the reliablity and precision of Maalik ad-Daar is not known, and these are two principle conditions necessary for the authenticity of any narration, as is affirmed in the science of hadeeth. Ibn Abee Haatim mentions him in al-Jarh wa-Ta'deel (4/1/213) and does not mention anyone who narrates from him except Abu Saalih. So this indicates that he is unknown, and this is further emphasized by the fact that Ibn Abee Haatim himself, who is well known for his memorization and wide knowledge, did not quote anyone who declared him reliable, so he remains unknown. Then this does not contradict the saying of al-Haafidh (Ibn Hajar): '...with an authentic chain of narration, from the narration of Abu Saalih as-Samaan...' since we say: It is not declaration that all of the chain of narration is authentic (saheeh), rather only that it is so up to Abu Saalih. If that were not the case then he would have begun: 'From Maalik ad-Daar ... and its chain of narration is authentic.' But he said it in the way that he did to draw attention to the fact that there was something requiring investigation in it. The scholars say this for various reasons. From these reasons is that they may not have been able to find a biography for some narrator(s) and therefore they would not permit themselves to pass a ruling of authenticity without certainity and cause others to think it authentic and to use it as a proof. So what they would rather do in such a case is to quote the part requiring further examination, which is what al-Haafidh (rahimahullah) did here. It is also as if he indicates the fact that Abu Saalih as-Samaan is alone in reporting from Maalik ad-Daar, or that he is unknown, and Allah knows best. So this is a very fine point of knowledge which will be realized only by those having experience in this field. What we have said is also aided by the fact that al-Haafidh al-Mundhiree reports another story from the narration of Maalik ad-Daar, from 'Umar in at-Targheeb (2/41-42) and says after it: 'at-Tabaraanee reports it in al-Kabeer. Its narrators up to Maalik ad-Daar are famous and reliable, but as for Maalik ad-Daar then I do not know him.' The same is said by al-Haythamee in Majma' az-Zawaa'id (3/125)."
@@tawwabali4419 Malik ad-Dar is reported to be a sahabi, and he was the khazin of Umar.
Furthermore, al Bayhaqi has also classified it as sahih and Ibn Kathir in al Bidaya wan Nihaya.
Lastly, a Hadith is not classified as something “up to that point”. Ibn Hajar said “روى عن بن أبي شيبة باسناد صحيح" .
Ibn Kathir has also mentioned it in his book Musnad alFarooq where he says:
هذا اسناد جيد قوي
“This sanad is good and strong”.
And if major scholars mentioned this Hadith, and they didn’t classify the act as shirk, then who are you to say that the actions is shirk akbar?
I am growing to love this muslim brother for his clear humble striaght talking ie haqq may Allah bless you
Bro the topic of the debate belong to the first principle " Shahada"
We must know Islam well.
Irony Dilly, you call for unity of Muslims but one of the sides is too eager to declare the rest mushrik on mere conjecture. Who is the one dividing then?
Mere conjecture...
It is Allah who can only help you.
We love the prophet (SAW) so much,
However calling upon him for help from Allah is known as intercession.
Allah is the one who help, and knows the state of your affairs.
It’s quite simple.
Asrar is calling to istagaatha and justifying the adding of a intermediate between a person and Allah.
ARH is calling to make dua to Allah alone with no justification of an use of an intermediate.
Doing so, is shirk.
Simply because you are adding partners when Allah is one and only.
Jazzakallahu khairan.
@@hamsterkiller6063 Narrated by Abu Huraira: The Prophet Muhammad said, "I shall be the first intercessor in Paradise" (Sahih Muslim, Book 1, Hadith 378).
- This Hadith is found in Sahih Muslim, which is one of the most authentic collections of Hadith.
2. **Hadith about Intercession for Major Sins**:
- Narrated by Anas ibn Malik: The Prophet Muhammad said, "My intercession will be for those of my followers who have committed major sins" (Sunan Abu Dawood, Book 40, Hadith 4721).
- This Hadith is also found in Sunan Abu Dawood and is considered hasan.
3. **Hadith about Seeking Intercession through the Prophet**:
- Narrated by Uthman ibn Hunaif: A blind man came to the Prophet and asked him to pray to Allah to restore his sight. The Prophet told him to perform ablution, pray two rak'ahs, and then make a specific supplication asking for the Prophet's intercession. The man's sight was restored (Jami` at-Tirmidhi, Book 48, Hadith 3578).
- This Hadith is recorded in Jami` at-Tirmidhi and is considered authentic by many scholars.
Hadith of the Blind Man (Uthman ibn Hunaif)**:
- As previously mentioned, a blind man came to the Prophet during his lifetime, and the Prophet instructed him to pray and ask for his intercession. Furthermore , it is reported that after the Prophet's death, Uthman ibn Hunaif recommended the same supplication to someone in need, and it was answered positively.
- This incident is mentioned in the works of Hadith scholars like al-Tabarani in his "Mu'jam al-Kabir" and "Mu'jam al-Saghir."
Yet Another example
2. **The Hadith of the Man visiting the Prophet's Grave**:
- It is reported that during the time of Caliph Umar ibn al-Khattab, there was a drought. A man visited the Prophet's grave and prayed for rain through the Prophet's intercession. The Prophet appeared in a dream to the man, instructing him to go to Umar and inform him to pray for rain, which Umar did, and rain followed.
This report is found in various historical and Hadith works, including "al-Mustadrak" by al-Hakim
And al-Tabarani's "Mu'jam al-Kabir"
These Hadith are both from his passing and before and on the day do judgement.
Only ONE side (najdis) edited videos, say it straight brother.
asalamualaikum
thank you Dilly Husain
for being impartial, and trying to bring both sides together, I agree we have more important things to deal with as a community. we need to show love and help each other.
we need to be working towards building a more solid foundation within our community, and there are many ways this can be done. I wish you all the best and I hope inshaAllah you chair more of these debates as I found it very informative and helpful. both parties are brothers to one another and we need to build better relationships with each other. inshaAllah I wish you all the best.
The rift in the ummah is huge these days, entering certain mosques feels like a foreign planet these days.
To right bro we need unity
@@umarali1618 unity if people unite on aqida
not by saying forget your differences wether you shia, ashari, sunni
This ikhwaani idea won't ever work
The haqq is haqq batil is batil
Elite Perfumes you don't say lol
Typical todays biddah group salafi statement without understanding, you cant deny hadith tawatir that sheikh asrar come with, there no difference between deny tawatir hadith, deny quran ,deny sahih Muslim and sahih Buhari.stupid wahabi firqa ,only way to understand that hadith are making tawil,in hadith he say maddath ya rasulallah in front of rasulallah, here you have make tawil.so simple is that ,in the day rasulallah of judgement rasulallah will have possibility to make syafaa biiznillah, conect to it,so easy you see
@@Eskipsilat asrar rashid lost. He couldn't even prove his support of the quran and sunnah in aqida
Cuz he actually doesn't since he ashari
@@Eskipsilat Al wahhaab is one of Allaah's names
@@eyessmile6173 He did watch his 2nd debate with him he got demolished.
Both parties debated with eloquence reflecting their enormous studies of fundamentals of Islam. But they couldn’t agree upon with each other because of influence and pressure of their respective community. However, one side becomes winner which shall be unravelled if they listen and ponder on the arguments of each other. Moderator though young but highly prudent and an excellent orator did wonderful who deserves our appreciation and prayers. May Allah SWT enlighten us and guide all of us as one Ummah pulling above partisan mentality. One must remember that there is no way to take chances because if we do so it shall transpire either Jannah or Hellfire I.e. , illyeen to shijjeen. So, if there is light choose the same defeating ego and ignorance.
وما توفيقي إلا بلله.
"اذا حكمتم فاحكموا بالعدل " "ومن رءى منكم منكرا فليغيره ....."
All those issues you mentioned are important yes, but in comparison to having the correct understanding of Tawheed and shirk are minuscule. Rather the Muslims lack of understanding of the importance of Tawheed and calling upon Allah alone has a direct effect on all the issues you mentioned. For if a Muslim understood Tawheed properly they would understand that all it takes is for one person to make sincere dua to Allah directly for him to rectify all of the problems we suffer from for he is the controller of all affairs.
Shaik Asrar won the debate 👍
No doubt
Honestly speaking for the first 15 minutes I was totally blank to figure out that the debates are between two muslims. I thought that its between a muslim and a christian who is debating on whether it is allowed to invoke prophet in supplications. How a muslim at the first place would debate on this subject where muslims are bound to invoke only Allah in what ever situation they are in.
@m451f but the 3 conditions that he gave was stupid, if we seek help from a person in space is shirk? The person is not present on the earth......
@m451f so he is not present ... He is in space
@m451f what is the meaning of present? If someone is in space is he present on earth? Are you drunk?
If someone from earth calls astronauts for help, is he become mushrik?
The 3 conditions that he made for isteaanah is the creation of his mind... He didn't have any evidence from Quran o Sunnah or Ijmah
Masha Allah brother, I totally agree with you...in this day and age we have other biger issues to worry about and should utilise over energies solving them such as; starting fasting on different days we celebrate eids on different days, youth is fed up of listning to scholars fights and they are become secular some are even becoming ethists. Our youth who are inclined towards the deen are having extream view one extream or the other.
Subhanallah shirk isn't a big deal?
@@abuaahil4906 it seems no for these wierdos
@@GilesHartop Id rather live a very horrible life, get my family members killed, get very sick, get poor then ever practicing Shirk. Shirk is the sin that we dont even wanna come close to and only warm people from it harshly.
@@WU-HU-XI-LIAN-DA_STRIKE bro fear Allah and change your name first. Dont go to extremes in your speech as it reflects whats in your heart. Rather take the middle path.
@@GilesHartop Do you even know what a jinn means? Clearly not. People say it means demon or shaytan and it does not. It means invisable creatures. There are muslim and shaytan jinns just like there are muslim and shaytan human beings. Coming back to you calling me extreme. Shirk will get you in hellfire forever, and the prophet ص and the companions were extremely harsh against shirk. Dont you fear Allah's punishment? Allah forgives anything except those who didnt repent from Shirk.
Dilly. Pure class. Mashallah! Allah bless and preserve you sayyidi
Wahabi camp edited and cropped the video
Omarr Abdullah wahab is name of Allah, you ignorant .
Absolutely right!
Wahabis are satans
@Sani Malik like those bani tameemi right? like zul khuwaisra right?
Respect to u my brother but deep down in ur heart u know after that debate who is true. Ya rasoolallah madad.
Seek help from Allah only
Madad ya Muṣṭafā (ﷺ)!
Jazak Allah khayrn akhee Dilly, may Allah increase you in knowledge.
If I am honest I believe ustaad abdur Rahman was more clear and spoke to the general public. Sheikh asrar was absolutely the right person to debate with and he had some good moments. But he was very technical was a little harder to understand. May Allah swt unite us on the haqq ameen
Abdul Rahman is a good lecturer but lectures or preaching doesn't make him winn the debate
@@Human_boy_91 if you watch the debate with clear mind you will see AR was full of dalil which Sheikh Asrar unable to respond..
@@hunainalikhan9253nope it was the opposite actually
Narrated by Abu Huraira: The Prophet Muhammad said, "I shall be the first intercessor in Paradise" (Sahih Muslim, Book 1, Hadith 378).
- This Hadith is found in Sahih Muslim, which is one of the most authentic collections of Hadith.
2. **Hadith about Intercession for Major Sins**:
- Narrated by Anas ibn Malik: The Prophet Muhammad said, "My intercession will be for those of my followers who have committed major sins" (Sunan Abu Dawood, Book 40, Hadith 4721).
- This Hadith is also found in Sunan Abu Dawood and is considered hasan.
3. **Hadith about Seeking Intercession through the Prophet**:
- Narrated by Uthman ibn Hunaif: A blind man came to the Prophet and asked him to pray to Allah to restore his sight. The Prophet told him to perform ablution, pray two rak'ahs, and then make a specific supplication asking for the Prophet's intercession. The man's sight was restored (Jami` at-Tirmidhi, Book 48, Hadith 3578).
- This Hadith is recorded in Jami` at-Tirmidhi and is considered authentic by many scholars.
Hadith of the Blind Man (Uthman ibn Hunaif)**:
- As previously mentioned, a blind man came to the Prophet during his lifetime, and the Prophet instructed him to pray and ask for his intercession. Furthermore , it is reported that after the Prophet's death, Uthman ibn Hunaif recommended the same supplication to someone in need, and it was answered positively.
- This incident is mentioned in the works of Hadith scholars like al-Tabarani in his "Mu'jam al-Kabir" and "Mu'jam al-Saghir."
Yet Another example
2. **The Hadith of the Man visiting the Prophet's Grave**:
- It is reported that during the time of Caliph Umar ibn al-Khattab, there was a drought. A man visited the Prophet's grave and prayed for rain through the Prophet's intercession. The Prophet appeared in a dream to the man, instructing him to go to Umar and inform him to pray for rain, which Umar did, and rain followed.
This report is found in various historical and Hadith works, including "al-Mustadrak" by al-Hakim
And al-Tabarani's "Mu'jam al-Kabir"
These Hadith are both from his passing and before and on the day do judgement.
i believe the debate should not have had an audience. just brother dilly and two from each group (speaker and helper). that might have resulted in more of a discussion than a debate. wallahu a'lam.
agreed.
100% agreed
It is clear who is upon haqq though through numerous ahadith
Narrated by Abu Huraira: The Prophet Muhammad said, "I shall be the first intercessor in Paradise" (Sahih Muslim, Book 1, Hadith 378).
- This Hadith is found in Sahih Muslim, which is one of the most authentic collections of Hadith.
2. **Hadith about Intercession for Major Sins**:
- Narrated by Anas ibn Malik: The Prophet Muhammad said, "My intercession will be for those of my followers who have committed major sins" (Sunan Abu Dawood, Book 40, Hadith 4721).
- This Hadith is also found in Sunan Abu Dawood and is considered hasan.
3. **Hadith about Seeking Intercession through the Prophet**:
- Narrated by Uthman ibn Hunaif: A blind man came to the Prophet and asked him to pray to Allah to restore his sight. The Prophet told him to perform ablution, pray two rak'ahs, and then make a specific supplication asking for the Prophet's intercession. The man's sight was restored (Jami` at-Tirmidhi, Book 48, Hadith 3578).
- This Hadith is recorded in Jami` at-Tirmidhi and is considered authentic by many scholars.
Hadith of the Blind Man (Uthman ibn Hunaif)**:
- As previously mentioned, a blind man came to the Prophet during his lifetime, and the Prophet instructed him to pray and ask for his intercession. Furthermore , it is reported that after the Prophet's death, Uthman ibn Hunaif recommended the same supplication to someone in need, and it was answered positively.
- This incident is mentioned in the works of Hadith scholars like al-Tabarani in his "Mu'jam al-Kabir" and "Mu'jam al-Saghir."
Yet Another example
2. **The Hadith of the Man visiting the Prophet's Grave**:
- It is reported that during the time of Caliph Umar ibn al-Khattab, there was a drought. A man visited the Prophet's grave and prayed for rain through the Prophet's intercession. The Prophet appeared in a dream to the man, instructing him to go to Umar and inform him to pray for rain, which Umar did, and rain followed.
This report is found in various historical and Hadith works, including "al-Mustadrak" by al-Hakim
And al-Tabarani's "Mu'jam al-Kabir"
These Hadith are both from his passing and before and on the day do judgement.
By Allah this upsets me so much. How can you not see what the shaytan is trying to brew.. well already had.
Very sad.. and i'm very disappointed to see thee sorts of things subhanAllah
i just came from the channel where full debate was presented,.. im sorry i just could not watch it for more than 20 mins, waste of time subhanAllah.
Can you honestly say, someone who attended this that they went in there with a sincere heart and for the sake Allah , not a single drop of pride or arrogance? Not to belittle or humiliate the other party?
One fact and one fact it is. even though i have not seen the whole debate, whether you were there or saw a bit online.. things have remained as they were and will be like this till last days, Only Allah can change a heart. Nothing but hate has been accomplished . Well done. shaytan saying MashaAllah.
Allah guide us all. Just because we as individuals (may) think we are guided, it does not make it so. Don't be arrogant. look to yourself first. Even if we are guided it is from the will of Allah, and we should every single day ask and beg Allah that Allah keeps us to his one stright path. WITH A SINCER HEART. Allah will open you arrogant eyes. no one is better or more knowledgable than one another .. and what is knowledge if there is no manners. Allah guide and safeguard us. Ameen. Forgive me.
And may Allah bless this brother for his effort. ameen
shirk is not a small thing
DONT DO SHIRK
You're doing kufar by rejecting waseela
Brother dilly you need to know these are fundamental creedal issues so please akh how can we say agree to disagree when one can fall into kufr and the worst type of kufr major shirk.
I think as moderator you should mention who has broken the rules rather then say both parties as it's very clear who broke the rules.
@@Dani-bx9db you barelvis are legit stupid
@@Dani-bx9db why do you refer to him disparagingly as ‘the Somali guy’. And no matter how you spin it imo Asrar lost. I’m saying this as a fan of his. The other side came with clear cut ayat and hadeeth. Asrar only quoted 2 athar both of which were either weak or fabricated
he's trying to stay neutral
May Allah bless you brother. You were alone in that room knowing how to be professional.
Ustad Abdul Rahman was entertaining the crowd, he fail to answer basic questions like how can be something allowed in dunya and become shirk after death.....
If a person is in space and someone ask him for help, does he become a mushrik??
Jibran Naeem apparently you missed the three conditions ustadh mentioned that has to be present in order for a person to ask for another person’s help. Let me reiterate this to you, the first condition is that the person you are asking for help from has to alive not dead, second they have to be present meaning near you and it has to be something they are able to do.
So when the prophet was alive it was permissible to go to him and ask him to make dua for you because all three conditions meets the requirement but the moment he died, that became the end of asking him for help. This is pretty clear, how can we call on to the dead? SubhanAllah. We all know the prophet’s status is high but he forbade asking the dead for help while he was alive, so how can muslim today for into this mistake smh
Also the part that made the debate frightening for me is when at the end the side of ustadh were saying the takbeer, which is praising Allah, the other side shouted over them with ya Rasulullah omg that was mind blowing for me. I watched the two years ago and now 2 days ago and im still surprised at that part. Wiw may Allah guide us to follow the Qur’an and the sunnah strictly without going to the extreme ameeen
Jibran Naeem as for asking for help, even if the person is alive and near you, you have to ask them for help that is under their control like giving me a dollar or pass me a glass of water if they have it. But you cant go to someone and ask him to give you a wife or child or to cure you, this is beyond that persons capability. I hope you get this now inshaAllah
@@AllahURabBI19 first of all where he learn that requirements? Is there any hadith relating to it.
Second, if after this life asking for help is not permissible than how did Hazrat Mosa helped Prophet Muhammad صلی اللہ علیہ وسلم on the day of mairaj?
Third, if a person is not present we can't ask for help? Your scholars also asked for help on call
Fourth we don't consider Prophet Muhammad صلی اللہ علیہ وسلم dead, this is contrary to Quran. He consider him alive.
@Ahmad Shaikh where did he got those requirements?
Your ustad on the day of judgement will be asking for Prophet's help....
@Ahmad Shaikh what about the incident of Hazrat e Mosa?
12:17 Talks of the day
A moderator sitting on the fence, bravo.
Abdulrahman Hassan won.
*the dork award.
@@Ryan-lf6ds
Not only are the Salafis upon the Sunnah in terms of beliefs but also with regards to manners, unlike you.
@@MohammedAlSharif2002 yea, wahhabi are upon the sunnah and manners of kafirs unlike me. 🤣
go sleep, bedouin.
must be hard for yo smoothbrain.
Joke 🤣🤣🤣🤣
Lol you not even watch the whole debate 😂😂😂
How Abdul Rahman shamelessly changed it's views and many Times (not only times)
And the he agreed that it's not shirk but it's haraam 😂😂😂😂😂
Asrar achieve what he wants
He literally somehow changes his views
Wrong wrong wrong asrar clearly proved waseela is permissible
Narrated by Abu Huraira: The Prophet Muhammad said, "I shall be the first intercessor in Paradise" (Sahih Muslim, Book 1, Hadith 378).
- This Hadith is found in Sahih Muslim, which is one of the most authentic collections of Hadith.
2. **Hadith about Intercession for Major Sins**:
- Narrated by Anas ibn Malik: The Prophet Muhammad said, "My intercession will be for those of my followers who have committed major sins" (Sunan Abu Dawood, Book 40, Hadith 4721).
- This Hadith is also found in Sunan Abu Dawood and is considered hasan.
3. **Hadith about Seeking Intercession through the Prophet**:
- Narrated by Uthman ibn Hunaif: A blind man came to the Prophet and asked him to pray to Allah to restore his sight. The Prophet told him to perform ablution, pray two rak'ahs, and then make a specific supplication asking for the Prophet's intercession. The man's sight was restored (Jami` at-Tirmidhi, Book 48, Hadith 3578).
- This Hadith is recorded in Jami` at-Tirmidhi and is considered authentic by many scholars.
Hadith of the Blind Man (Uthman ibn Hunaif)**:
- As previously mentioned, a blind man came to the Prophet during his lifetime, and the Prophet instructed him to pray and ask for his intercession. Furthermore , it is reported that after the Prophet's death, Uthman ibn Hunaif recommended the same supplication to someone in need, and it was answered positively.
- This incident is mentioned in the works of Hadith scholars like al-Tabarani in his "Mu'jam al-Kabir" and "Mu'jam al-Saghir."
Yet Another example
2. **The Hadith of the Man visiting the Prophet's Grave**:
- It is reported that during the time of Caliph Umar ibn al-Khattab, there was a drought. A man visited the Prophet's grave and prayed for rain through the Prophet's intercession. The Prophet appeared in a dream to the man, instructing him to go to Umar and inform him to pray for rain, which Umar did, and rain followed.
This report is found in various historical and Hadith works, including "al-Mustadrak" by al-Hakim
And al-Tabarani's "Mu'jam al-Kabir"
These Hadith are both from his passing and before and on the day do judgement
That's what we Muslims need!
Have our representative in news, theology, philosophy, media, universities, schools, Mosques, Speakers corner groups and others.
MashaAllah nice and useful debate.
anyone who watched the whole debate can clearly see that Abdul rahman changed his opinion during the debate a couple of time- (not just once, many times) !!!!
Asrar Rashid achieved all he wanted and did much better than abdul rahman. Both had deep knowledge in Islam but for anyone who is objective will come to the conclusion that the arguments of Asrar Rashid were much stronger-
Alhamdulillah Asrar is gem ✌️✌️✌️
He is great scholar and a true Sufi
I'm not gonna prey to dead ..Only Allah.
No ones praying to them brother.
Narrated by Abu Huraira: The Prophet Muhammad said, "I shall be the first intercessor in Paradise" (Sahih Muslim, Book 1, Hadith 378).
- This Hadith is found in Sahih Muslim, which is one of the most authentic collections of Hadith.
2. **Hadith about Intercession for Major Sins**:
- Narrated by Anas ibn Malik: The Prophet Muhammad said, "My intercession will be for those of my followers who have committed major sins" (Sunan Abu Dawood, Book 40, Hadith 4721).
- This Hadith is also found in Sunan Abu Dawood and is considered hasan.
3. **Hadith about Seeking Intercession through the Prophet**:
- Narrated by Uthman ibn Hunaif: A blind man came to the Prophet and asked him to pray to Allah to restore his sight. The Prophet told him to perform ablution, pray two rak'ahs, and then make a specific supplication asking for the Prophet's intercession. The man's sight was restored (Jami` at-Tirmidhi, Book 48, Hadith 3578).
- This Hadith is recorded in Jami` at-Tirmidhi and is considered authentic by many scholars.
Hadith of the Blind Man (Uthman ibn Hunaif)**:
- As previously mentioned, a blind man came to the Prophet during his lifetime, and the Prophet instructed him to pray and ask for his intercession. Furthermore , it is reported that after the Prophet's death, Uthman ibn Hunaif recommended the same supplication to someone in need, and it was answered positively.
- This incident is mentioned in the works of Hadith scholars like al-Tabarani in his "Mu'jam al-Kabir" and "Mu'jam al-Saghir."
Yet Another example
2. **The Hadith of the Man visiting the Prophet's Grave**:
- It is reported that during the time of Caliph Umar ibn al-Khattab, there was a drought. A man visited the Prophet's grave and prayed for rain through the Prophet's intercession. The Prophet appeared in a dream to the man, instructing him to go to Umar and inform him to pray for rain, which Umar did, and rain followed.
This report is found in various historical and Hadith works, including "al-Mustadrak" by al-Hakim
And al-Tabarani's "Mu'jam al-Kabir"
These Hadith are both from his passing and before and on the day do judgement.
there are two groups the ahly sunnah wal jameah consensus moderate Muslims 😅 and the shiea groupings of Iran takfiri shiea rafidhi and takfiri wahabi salafi of bokoharam alshabab Egypt ikhwanul talyban Bangladesh pseudo salafi Philippines abusayaf ASEAN takfiri wahabi salafi Syria rebels lraq isis Pakistani tehrk talyban India tehrek talyban Palestine hamas
Hamas is not salafi
And Here you're
Talking about Unity😒
And Always I've found that the people who're calling us a Mushrik, are the only people's those who are raising the Flag of Unity😏
How is this possible?
What's the Stupidity going on..?
it was not a dispute... it was a discussion from Asraar sahab
Sheikh asrar radhid won.
Alamdullilah
@Hassan AMA offcourse he can't even able to answer his one questio.
Alhamdullilah sheikh asrar rashid won it.
@@MrsSumaira8367 did you even see the debate?
It all depends whether those hadiths Asrar sahab bring in the last are sahih or not.
And I will not do intigatha personally bcoz it may affect my tawheed, as I am not 100% sure about this issue.
We make dua to Allah only so we can never losse
@@Bulayla1426yes did u
Narrated by Abu Huraira: The Prophet Muhammad said, "I shall be the first intercessor in Paradise" (Sahih Muslim, Book 1, Hadith 378).
- This Hadith is found in Sahih Muslim, which is one of the most authentic collections of Hadith.
2. **Hadith about Intercession for Major Sins**:
- Narrated by Anas ibn Malik: The Prophet Muhammad said, "My intercession will be for those of my followers who have committed major sins" (Sunan Abu Dawood, Book 40, Hadith 4721).
- This Hadith is also found in Sunan Abu Dawood and is considered hasan.
3. **Hadith about Seeking Intercession through the Prophet**:
- Narrated by Uthman ibn Hunaif: A blind man came to the Prophet and asked him to pray to Allah to restore his sight. The Prophet told him to perform ablution, pray two rak'ahs, and then make a specific supplication asking for the Prophet's intercession. The man's sight was restored (Jami` at-Tirmidhi, Book 48, Hadith 3578).
- This Hadith is recorded in Jami` at-Tirmidhi and is considered authentic by many scholars.
Hadith of the Blind Man (Uthman ibn Hunaif)**:
- As previously mentioned, a blind man came to the Prophet during his lifetime, and the Prophet instructed him to pray and ask for his intercession. Furthermore , it is reported that after the Prophet's death, Uthman ibn Hunaif recommended the same supplication to someone in need, and it was answered positively.
- This incident is mentioned in the works of Hadith scholars like al-Tabarani in his "Mu'jam al-Kabir" and "Mu'jam al-Saghir."
Yet Another example
2. **The Hadith of the Man visiting the Prophet's Grave**:
- It is reported that during the time of Caliph Umar ibn al-Khattab, there was a drought. A man visited the Prophet's grave and prayed for rain through the Prophet's intercession. The Prophet appeared in a dream to the man, instructing him to go to Umar and inform him to pray for rain, which Umar did, and rain followed.
This report is found in various historical and Hadith works, including "al-Mustadrak" by al-Hakim
And al-Tabarani's "Mu'jam al-Kabir"
These Hadith are both from his passing and before and on the day do judgement
please inform where was this debate held ???
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Act of istighasa to dead is bidah, not shirk. It becomes shirk when the one called upon is believed to create independent actions.
Finally! Some sense and reason. We can argue whether it's Bid'āh or Mustāhab. But it can never be Shirk as long as it's done with the belief that Allāh ﷻ is the one who creates the action.
You've described the aqidah of mushrik Arabs.
@@rusi6219 if you watched the debate shaykh asrar answered this
And it is bidatehasana
Narrated by Abu Huraira: The Prophet Muhammad said, "I shall be the first intercessor in Paradise" (Sahih Muslim, Book 1, Hadith 378).
- This Hadith is found in Sahih Muslim, which is one of the most authentic collections of Hadith.
2. **Hadith about Intercession for Major Sins**:
- Narrated by Anas ibn Malik: The Prophet Muhammad said, "My intercession will be for those of my followers who have committed major sins" (Sunan Abu Dawood, Book 40, Hadith 4721).
- This Hadith is also found in Sunan Abu Dawood and is considered hasan.
3. **Hadith about Seeking Intercession through the Prophet**:
- Narrated by Uthman ibn Hunaif: A blind man came to the Prophet and asked him to pray to Allah to restore his sight. The Prophet told him to perform ablution, pray two rak'ahs, and then make a specific supplication asking for the Prophet's intercession. The man's sight was restored (Jami` at-Tirmidhi, Book 48, Hadith 3578).
- This Hadith is recorded in Jami` at-Tirmidhi and is considered authentic by many scholars.
Hadith of the Blind Man (Uthman ibn Hunaif)**:
- As previously mentioned, a blind man came to the Prophet during his lifetime, and the Prophet instructed him to pray and ask for his intercession. Furthermore , it is reported that after the Prophet's death, Uthman ibn Hunaif recommended the same supplication to someone in need, and it was answered positively.
- This incident is mentioned in the works of Hadith scholars like al-Tabarani in his "Mu'jam al-Kabir" and "Mu'jam al-Saghir."
Yet Another example
2. **The Hadith of the Man visiting the Prophet's Grave**:
- It is reported that during the time of Caliph Umar ibn al-Khattab, there was a drought. A man visited the Prophet's grave and prayed for rain through the Prophet's intercession. The Prophet appeared in a dream to the man, instructing him to go to Umar and inform him to pray for rain, which Umar did, and rain followed.
This report is found in various historical and Hadith works, including "al-Mustadrak" by al-Hakim
And al-Tabarani's "Mu'jam al-Kabir"
These Hadith are both from his passing and before and on the day do judgement.
Salaam.
I have to commend you brother Dilly for a job well done! I thought you moderated the debate perfectly. You were impartial and assertive when you had to be. I was really impressed by the way you acquited yourself. Well done! :)
I agree with you that there are more urgent matters that require our attention but like you said if this type of controversy is inhibiting progress and dividing the ummah then perhaps it is worth discussing. After all the last thing we need is another mawlid debacle. Its better to discuss differences in the form of debates than to publish videos denouncing one another on social media.
As for the debate itself.... I wasn't really impressed. Perhaps my not being a scholar meant I couldn't appreciate the subtle evidences that were presented..or maybe the debate was actually rather poor? Or perhaps both? In any case I did detect a lot of fallacious appeals to emotion, straw man arguments, evocative language, non sequiturs, prevarication and on several occasions Ustadh Abdul Rahman resorted to poisoning the well strategies as well as audacious attempts to pontificate to the audience. Not to mention the asinine attempts to undermine Shaykh Asrar's credibility by correcting his Arabic pronunciation!
Its a shame one side didn't agree with your introduction Dilly. I can guess which side that is..It just goes to demonstrate how provincial the sectarian mind can become! Just to reiterate I am neither a salafi nor barelwi I am Maliki. So I hope no one interprets this as an indictment of one side or the other.
Once again well done Dilly :)
The tawheed aspect of religion everyone knows what it is, its about ego flex.
@@Nihari56
Was Sumayya, the first martyr of Islam, a poor and illiterate woman of low social rank who had been a slave, whom Allah granted janna, aware of all the various fine scholastic points developed in later centuries by various madhhabs?
The Apostle of Allah simply taught her that the idols are false and there is only one deity and that is Allah. And that he is the messenger of Allah.
She was ready to die for this and she did. She died on pure and clear and simple tawhid, sufficient to grant her janna, which is that there is only one deity over everything and you must devote yourself to Him even unto death.
Whoever has the tawhid of Sumayya has sufficient tawhid. Remember that. Do not complicate the religion of Allah and do not suggest that heaven and hell hangs in the balance on any of these abstract scholastic disputes.
@@Nihari56
Maybe if you calm down and not assume that your interlocutor is ignorant just because they have a criticism, you will better understand what is being said.
"Do not complicate tawhid" does not mean "tawhid is not important".
"Do not complicate tawhid" does not mean "there is something more important than tawhid."
So what does it mean?
It means that tawhid is so clearly expressed in the Qur'an, anyone can understand it.
الله لا اله الا هو
Allah! There is no deity but He
He alone is absolutely supreme in everything. Power, knowledge, justice, mercy. Everything else is an utterly dependent created slave and Allah is its sole and supreme creative Master.
It is so simple that even an illiterate poor slave woman Sumayya in the 7th century pagan jahili Arabia can hear, understand, believe and die for.
@@Nihari56
I have no control over your feelings, brother/sister. But a person's feelings do not dictate what is a good or bad understanding of tawhid.
It really isn't for you to tell me what tawhid is or for me to tell you what tawhid is. Or any scholar for that matter.
The Prophet had a duty to clearly recite the verses of Allah which guide us to true tawhid. And he - peace be upon him - did. It is for both of us to look into the Qur'an and recite those verses, believe in them and act accordingly.
Sumayya - whom Allah has granted janna - did not need a scholar to tell her how to understand the tawhid of the Qur'an. She heard, believed and acted. And died a martyr.
There is no extra "parts" of tawhid "etc" outside the clear text of the Qur'an.
@@Nihari56
This language of "fard/pillars/nullifiers" is a later scholastic construct. The language of the Qur'an and Sunna is adequate. Indeed, because tawhid is the most essential, it is clearly and sufficiently stated in the Word of Allah.
@@Nihari56
You need to give me actual sahih hadith saying tawhid has 3 pillars from someone living from the first 3 generations for me to believe you. Otherwise, it's just a late belief projected onto earlier times.
In a realistic note, debate or not as Muslims we should stand together. Whether it being sunni or salafi. Differences aside promote and spread the things we do agree on. We're making a joke on Islam
This is a ridiculous statement never will a person upon tawheed stand with a a person who openly promotes shirk
Ahlul bidah was clearly defeated. May Allah guide them.
Narrated by Abu Huraira: The Prophet Muhammad said, "I shall be the first intercessor in Paradise" (Sahih Muslim, Book 1, Hadith 378).
- This Hadith is found in Sahih Muslim, which is one of the most authentic collections of Hadith.
2. **Hadith about Intercession for Major Sins**:
- Narrated by Anas ibn Malik: The Prophet Muhammad said, "My intercession will be for those of my followers who have committed major sins" (Sunan Abu Dawood, Book 40, Hadith 4721).
- This Hadith is also found in Sunan Abu Dawood and is considered hasan.
3. **Hadith about Seeking Intercession through the Prophet**:
- Narrated by Uthman ibn Hunaif: A blind man came to the Prophet and asked him to pray to Allah to restore his sight. The Prophet told him to perform ablution, pray two rak'ahs, and then make a specific supplication asking for the Prophet's intercession. The man's sight was restored (Jami` at-Tirmidhi, Book 48, Hadith 3578).
- This Hadith is recorded in Jami` at-Tirmidhi and is considered authentic by many scholars.
Hadith of the Blind Man (Uthman ibn Hunaif)**:
- As previously mentioned, a blind man came to the Prophet during his lifetime, and the Prophet instructed him to pray and ask for his intercession. Furthermore , it is reported that after the Prophet's death, Uthman ibn Hunaif recommended the same supplication to someone in need, and it was answered positively.
- This incident is mentioned in the works of Hadith scholars like al-Tabarani in his "Mu'jam al-Kabir" and "Mu'jam al-Saghir."
Yet Another example
2. **The Hadith of the Man visiting the Prophet's Grave**:
- It is reported that during the time of Caliph Umar ibn al-Khattab, there was a drought. A man visited the Prophet's grave and prayed for rain through the Prophet's intercession. The Prophet appeared in a dream to the man, instructing him to go to Umar and inform him to pray for rain, which Umar did, and rain followed.
This report is found in various historical and Hadith works, including "al-Mustadrak" by al-Hakim
And al-Tabarani's "Mu'jam al-Kabir"
These Hadith are both from his passing and before and on the day do judgement.
Brothers pls block the comments part. Just let everyone decide for themselves.
Shaykh asrar Rashid sahib won the debate
Indeed!
I don't really watch any debate anymore except Dr Naik. I cannot comprehend how does Muslim fall into the trap of sects, it can't get any more simpler what does Allah call us.
Be careful man this is deen not a game truth is truth no comprises read this verse may Allah guide us n u don't make it commercial
ودوا لَوْ تُدْهِنُ فَيُدْهِنُونَ
(68:9) they would wish you to be pliant so that they too may be pliant. *5
*5) That is, "If you slackened a little in your propagation of Islam, they also would slacken in their opposition to you. Or, if you became inclined to effect some changes in your Faith to suit these people, they too would effect a compromise with you."
Read this may Allah open ur heart
Indeed, those who conceal what We sent down of clear proofs and guidance after We made it clear for the people in the Scripture - those are cursed by Allah and cursed by those who curse
Tell the true and never care about people says
those who convey the messages of Allah and fear Him and do not fear anyone but Allah And sufficient is Allah as Accountant
Let me be more clear this deen nothing called stand in the middle side no coz end of time it's haq and batil twheed and shirk
Allah said innahu man yushrik billah faqad harramallahu alayhil jannah wama waahunnaar wamaa lidhaalimiina min ansaar
Pure class this man has. Dawah man, in the other hand…
Order order
Asrar Rashid is the winner
Ma Shah Allah :) how young!
Ustadh abdulrahman is a tauhid man
You need to take a side or any one must take a side (truth not falsehood) ....you cannot be on both side....obviously istigathaa done now is impermissible and shirk ..
are u a revert dilly
Walaikumussalam wa rahmatullahi wa barakatuhu
i agree with you totally bruv. its a shame the followers of both parties dont understand this!!!!
a frivolous mass-debate! how nice
Whoever sees these typ of people [as Adnan Rashid and his likes] as Muslims, brothers in faith and Muwahhidin [those who single Allah out in worship] then they themselves are Kuffaar, because of Takdhib an-Nas [denial of the text which clearly states that whoever does a worship to other then Allah then he is a Kaafir].
This is a Takfir al-'Amm:
Whosoever, after the Hujjah [proof] is brought, DOES NOT make Takfir on the likes of Asrar Rashid [Mushrik Murtadd Kaafir] and give him excuses, then HE HIMSELF IS A KAAFIR.
Allaah says:
{وَأَنَّ الْمَسَاجِدَ لِلَّهِ فَلَا تَدْعُوا مَعَ اللَّهِ أَحَدًا}
"And the places of worship are for Allah (alone): So invoke not any one along with Allah"[72:18]
Don't do takfeer over people so easily. Your extreme views is truly nothing but evil. Our Prophet salallau alhi wa salaam warned us against the Khawarij- who are the dogs of hellfire
Pure najdi/isis scum.
wow anyone who dosen't follow your views is kafir. subhanAllah. would this be the attitude of Muhammad saw? legit leave aside diffrences and just unite. be understanding not arrogant. just becuase you have one way of understanding, dosen't mean you don't listen to the other side. let go of the ego. how do you know if YOU are not kafir for making that statement, and that you won't sis a kafir? Brother be careful. may Allah protect us all
ikhwaani manhaj
اللهم صل وسلم على سيدنا ومولانا محمد عبدك ورسولك النبي الأمي وعلى آله
Dilly your a top man.
there was only one legend in this whole debate.... Dilly Hussain
Ustad Abdul rehaman was khawarji
sheikh abdur rahman hassan your with the dajajalic social media that's why you use this to mock another muslim brother I'm not surprised it was a given
What a pointless and bizarre talk....think this bruv likes to hear hes own voice
Nice work dilly
It's not shirk,you have to understand he comes with hadith tawatir, you cant deny it .you have to make tawil of it .
Dilly willy
that little bit of hair/goatee looks jokes on him
how can it possible a non arab is better understand arab language than an arab , i am not a arab , ustaz abdur Rehman is true path and israr rashid on mushrik path .
yes ustadh abdur Rehman better understanding of Qur'an with grammar and tenses ,.
now i am in doubt please tell me he is an arab or from somal, thank you .
jazak Allah brother, barakAllahu feek .
So being an Arab or close to being an Arab as the brother is a Somalian makes you a better person? You guys have a very strange thinking, no wonder you carnt understand simple things
Shaykh Asrar is correct in this matter.
to call upon prophet peace and blessings be upon them with the intention that Allah has bestowed the prophet peace and blessings be upon them the ability to help.
which one can learn through Quran and Ahdeeth
so Simple
The barlevis edited the video on their site. The real sunnis thanks to Uatadh Abdul Rahman proved their point!
Lol the video is 2 hours long cry more 😂😂😂
👍
Subhan'Allah Dilli Hussain made more sense than the debaters
باطل!
Brother before you talk this correct your pronunciation then talk not to harm you only for nasiiha
they both mushreek one close to islam then sufi grave worshipers
You're not making sense. What do you mean?
48rxxygm they are both mushreekin but abdur Rahman hasan talafi close to islam then asrar berelvi
+Muwaheed Abu Ibrahim how is ustadh abdul Rahman Hassan a mushrikeen?
48rxxygm his kufr is in 3 nullifier of islam , so many proofs from ulema an najd he is on murjiyah jahmiyah aqeedah ,and he is like his sheikh albani and others may Allah guide him to islam
+Muwaheed Abu Ibrahim what sect are you from?
i can safetly say im 100 per cent either and your just as barbaric as each other the moden day khawjrities lmao