to be honest i think that's just coming from the genshin fanbase. there are some problems they've addressed but majority of the issues people have had with the game since launch still have yet to be touched on.
One of my biggest issues was the absence of a team menu like in Genshin/HSR. It's hard to visualize and plan things out without it. So it's so nice to see them wanting to add it!!!
I actually put the mobile device UI customization on my survey response. The fact that they're adding the function means I wasn't the only one to point it out. It's nice to see these things and makes us feel listened to. GENSHIN COULD NE-... you know what... it's gotten old. I'm not gonna finish that statement. 😊
Considering all the QoLs since 4.0 and what's coming in 5.0, and think that statement is not only getting old, but also outdated And also, let's make the ZZZ community a less toxic one, where we don't feel the need to shit on other games to prop up our own :)
i just find it funny just becoz of only genshin that people really think all dev from mhy don't listen to players. I think they already know a lot of these problems and have solution to solve it but they just don't have enough time and need more optimization, that all. That why playerbase really need to chill out and let the dev cook, the game haven't even end it first patch yet and many people already act like the game is doom, it annoying tbh
Sometimes I feel like it's a rite of passage for popular gachas releasing haha, there's always the "Why x will be bad!" vids followed by the "I was wrong! x is actually great!" vids. Even as someone mostly checking out guide videos some of them still appear on my homepage
Same! I feel like some of these changes walked it back a lot and somewhat takes away from the immersion and AAA single player-like experience, in favor of a more gacha-friendly approach, which makes sense. From an immersion standpoint, playing as the MCs works the best. But considering people work hard to get all these characters in their collection, and some even pay real money, they'd want to be able to actually use them, even in the overworld.
@@statixfear Agree on the first point, but the usual gacha-friendly approach would be not actually playing your agents in the city. Usually in gacha games you don't get to play with the characters you pulled outside of the battles at all. Some maybe have a lobby screen or a dorm system where you interact with them, but that's it. It's pretty much genshin and hsr players(and now wuwa) that pushed for this change, and while they are the majority in numbers, this is not the normal gacha approach. Imo the trust system you get from pulling a character gives more value than just running as the character itself, and I kinda hate how this potentially could ruin that immersion you mentioned, hope they somehow solve the "issue" without doing that
Nice brightness on commision, I complained about that, hopefully they'll reduce the effects during TV commisions next, for some people the constant looping and flashing is giving headaches.
actually it could be weird with that free roaming agent.. i mean if i call nicole tl a date for example, while using nicole for exploring. i'll have 2 nicoles. 😂
The wording is tripping me up, is it definitely going to happen for walking around the city with your characters in the future? I've been reading many are disappointed and don't want it, but it's an option, you can still use the MC, why can't we all be happy? It isn't breaking immersion for you if you stay with the siblings. And won't you auto change back to the proxy anyways for interaction? I got into the game after seeing Jane walking around the city, I didn't know at the time that was a specific story event, would love to be able to do that. The characters have such amazing designs, I want to admire them outside of combat, is that going to ruin the game as an option? I think not
@ChaiTea1212 it will 100% be added as a feature in later update we just don't know when exactly. Since it was listed in the "future updates" section and not 1.1 or 1.2 we know it won't be added next patch either
Right now I’m on chapter 2 Interlude but I don’t know if later on they’re gonna have this or not, but I really want to have a boss rush mode for this game.
I think it just means like since "we" are Eous then instead of doing the TV scene to move around, we would instead move around as the actual playable character in a map and have interactable IN the map like in some Rally Commissions. (Chapter 3 Rally Commissions are great example)
@@AzrialVanity I figure thats probably what they meant by that. If they do that though, I really hope they're spaced between the usual TV explorations as well. Honestly, if all missions are like rally commissions it would get old really fast. I've had my fair share of that experience in Hi3 & tbh I rly dont want the same kind of burnout again.
the first thing they adressed in the plans for updates after 1.2 is... stupid? why would you explore non-battle areas as agent instead of your chosen character? i understand if they would add thing to be able to switch between belle and wise on the fly, but this? it just ruins immersion, thats what happens when you listen exclusively to complains, i hope they wont implement that at all
@terr0byte661 so many people wanted to explore the city as the characters they pulled for. But you are NOT forced to use them, I too will stick to using the MC i picked. But there's no reason in NOT adding it to appease those that want it while keeping it optional for those that don't.
This was disappointing tbh, so the game will still be baby mode difficulty for the next two updates and all these changes are not that big or important but how know maybe will see something at the live stream
I wholeheartedly hope they don't straight up make the agents playable in the open world, that absolutely goes against the game's main design of living a double life of a proxy. I hope they come up with something else, like having quests where you play as agents in the city, or events, but I'm very against just running around as them
@@AzrialVanity I understand that, but that optional function goes against the initial vision. It's sacrificing the overall quality of the product for the sake of simpability of the product and I do not like that approach. Spotting a playable agent in the city currently is an event in itself as they always have a reason to be there and all of it plays towards the overall immersion. On the other hand, getting to use them in the open world area is out of place in ZZZ and it would ruin immersion even if you just see someone else using that option. Unless they create exclusive new content where it would swap the positions and make it so having our MC in the area is considered out of place, I would be against having the option in the first place. I understand that this is entriely my issue(well, there are other people in your comments voicing it too, but I'm sure we're a minority), but If you ever saw a picture of two Ambers from genshin standing besides each other and it somehow irked you, then you would probably understand this feeling too. Edit: To add to the 2nd point, just think of the reaction of people(and yourself) from seeing Lighter in the city, or finding Lucy and Piper for the first time. It's a nice little event and generates interesting discussions online. Having to run as these characters takes away that special feeling and it will only be reserved for maybe some unreleased characters
THIS CHANGES EVERYTHING!!!!
"DEVS LISTENED"!!
And people said "dev won't listen", i hope this optimization are continuous and it keep getting better.
to be honest i think that's just coming from the genshin fanbase. there are some problems they've addressed but majority of the issues people have had with the game since launch still have yet to be touched on.
@@plvto1 yeah, at least they addressed it than not noticing it. Iam just kinda confused about why that people said something like that.
well that happened in genshin and each games has their own set of team and director. only the music and scriptwriter could handle more than one games.
One of my biggest issues was the absence of a team menu like in Genshin/HSR. It's hard to visualize and plan things out without it. So it's so nice to see them wanting to add it!!!
DEVS LISTENED!
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I actually put the mobile device UI customization on my survey response. The fact that they're adding the function means I wasn't the only one to point it out. It's nice to see these things and makes us feel listened to.
GENSHIN COULD NE-... you know what... it's gotten old. I'm not gonna finish that statement. 😊
Considering all the QoLs since 4.0 and what's coming in 5.0, and think that statement is not only getting old, but also outdated
And also, let's make the ZZZ community a less toxic one, where we don't feel the need to shit on other games to prop up our own :)
i just find it funny just becoz of only genshin that people really think all dev from mhy don't listen to players. I think they already know a lot of these problems and have solution to solve it but they just don't have enough time and need more optimization, that all. That why playerbase really need to chill out and let the dev cook, the game haven't even end it first patch yet and many people already act like the game is doom, it annoying tbh
Sometimes I feel like it's a rite of passage for popular gachas releasing haha, there's always the "Why x will be bad!" vids followed by the "I was wrong! x is actually great!" vids. Even as someone mostly checking out guide videos some of them still appear on my homepage
Yeah, and even Genshin's devs are starting to listen a bit more, people honestly just go on the hate train and don't even use their brains
I put a request to manually trigger chain attacks into my surveys, so feels good to see them working on that system 😊
It's a good day, manual chain attack is back and new qol! the future is looking bright gamers
I'm happy at least, my issue is the tiny combat UI. A longer wait but at least it's acknowledged.
You gotta let em cook. And now we can see that they are listening and cooking. This is a great sign and can't wait to see tye first dev Livestream
DEVS LISTENING!! Okay they are actually peak for listening
I actually like exploring the city as the proxy siblings
Same! I feel like some of these changes walked it back a lot and somewhat takes away from the immersion and AAA single player-like experience, in favor of a more gacha-friendly approach, which makes sense.
From an immersion standpoint, playing as the MCs works the best. But considering people work hard to get all these characters in their collection, and some even pay real money, they'd want to be able to actually use them, even in the overworld.
@@statixfearWell said. I'm one of those people who'd love to use the agents in the overworld
@@statixfear Agree on the first point, but the usual gacha-friendly approach would be not actually playing your agents in the city. Usually in gacha games you don't get to play with the characters you pulled outside of the battles at all. Some maybe have a lobby screen or a dorm system where you interact with them, but that's it. It's pretty much genshin and hsr players(and now wuwa) that pushed for this change, and while they are the majority in numbers, this is not the normal gacha approach.
Imo the trust system you get from pulling a character gives more value than just running as the character itself, and I kinda hate how this potentially could ruin that immersion you mentioned, hope they somehow solve the "issue" without doing that
Yeah, I personally think It makes the game more immersive
LET THEM COOK, so damn nice QoL changes
Nice brightness on commision, I complained about that, hopefully they'll reduce the effects during TV commisions next, for some people the constant looping and flashing is giving headaches.
DEVS LISTENED
Everytime you yell in excitement makes me laugh with joy lol
DEVS LISTENDED😭😭😭⁉️⁉️⁉️⁉️🗣️🗣️
oh hell to the yes.
actually it could be weird with that free roaming agent.. i mean if i call nicole tl a date for example, while using nicole for exploring. i'll have 2 nicoles. 😂
I LOOOVEE ZenZero
HOLY DEVS LISTENED everything i hate they gonna fix like forced chain attack, profile pictures, advaced time and use other characters in the city
The wording is tripping me up, is it definitely going to happen for walking around the city with your characters in the future?
I've been reading many are disappointed and don't want it, but it's an option, you can still use the MC, why can't we all be happy? It isn't breaking immersion for you if you stay with the siblings. And won't you auto change back to the proxy anyways for interaction?
I got into the game after seeing Jane walking around the city, I didn't know at the time that was a specific story event, would love to be able to do that.
The characters have such amazing designs, I want to admire them outside of combat, is that going to ruin the game as an option? I think not
@ChaiTea1212 it will 100% be added as a feature in later update we just don't know when exactly. Since it was listed in the "future updates" section and not 1.1 or 1.2 we know it won't be added next patch either
@@AzrialVanity Thanks! I'll be waiting patiently
Right now I’m on chapter 2 Interlude but I don’t know if later on they’re gonna have this or not, but I really want to have a boss rush mode for this game.
Haven’t watched it yet but praying they have something for xp
Icl never played a game where the devs listen to the players, ZZZ fire
LET THEM COOK
1:40 this one was a bit confusing to me, maybe they mean like in HSR where you change POV.
I think it just means like since "we" are Eous then instead of doing the TV scene to move around, we would instead move around as the actual playable character in a map and have interactable IN the map like in some Rally Commissions. (Chapter 3 Rally Commissions are great example)
@@AzrialVanity oh I see, that makes sense.
Hopefully that's how it'll work. I kinda prefer to play as MC when exploring the map outside missions.
@@AzrialVanity I figure thats probably what they meant by that. If they do that though, I really hope they're spaced between the usual TV explorations as well. Honestly, if all missions are like rally commissions it would get old really fast. I've had my fair share of that experience in Hi3 & tbh I rly dont want the same kind of burnout again.
@Don_Akane89 I agree and that's why I love the TV system so much. Unfortunately, the vocal majority hate the TV system 😕
man talk about unlucky having lost both of my 50/50 in two consecutive banners
Does that mean Anton's burst mode 3rd hit will always trigger chain attack?
@@tsuki9991 As long as you are not actively holding the button on the final hit of that attack, it will not trigger.
ZZZ dev team is secretly not Hoyo-affiliated 🤣🤣 This can't be real.
But when is 1.1?
@zaregotoch.8491 assuming they follow the normal Hoyo schedule then mid August. Each update normally lasts 6 weeks
💃◻🏮 😯
Truly another Genshin could never moment.
Truly a 😐 moment
the first thing they adressed in the plans for updates after 1.2 is... stupid? why would you explore non-battle areas as agent instead of your chosen character? i understand if they would add thing to be able to switch between belle and wise on the fly, but this? it just ruins immersion, thats what happens when you listen exclusively to complains, i hope they wont implement that at all
@terr0byte661 so many people wanted to explore the city as the characters they pulled for.
But you are NOT forced to use them, I too will stick to using the MC i picked. But there's no reason in NOT adding it to appease those that want it while keeping it optional for those that don't.
@@AzrialVanity Yeah, it will not ruin immersion for players who don't want to interact with the new system.
my hope is that it will open up new interactions with the agents you play, but maybe thats a bit too much
I mean it is optional dude, you can still use both wise and Belle too.
another person making an issue out of non-issue. touch grass
This was disappointing tbh, so the game will still be baby mode difficulty for the next two updates and all these changes are not that big or important but how know maybe will see something at the live stream
It's not disappointing you just don't understand what the game is OFC THE GAME WONT BE HARD ON PATCH 1 JUST LIKE ANY OTHER HOYO GACHA
@@Thedoorway123The game itself won't be hard in general, Hoyo gacha games are developed to be accessible and easy for everyone.
it's about QOL and moving a story right now this is still early in game life cycle they can't just stuff hard content in right away
This mans completed defense 7 already, congrats
Blud is in endgame, let this game run for 6 months lmao
I wholeheartedly hope they don't straight up make the agents playable in the open world, that absolutely goes against the game's main design of living a double life of a proxy. I hope they come up with something else, like having quests where you play as agents in the city, or events, but I'm very against just running around as them
@ChopPieDezz it would be optional, so you can still just use wise or belle and it's the same as always
@@AzrialVanity I understand that, but that optional function goes against the initial vision. It's sacrificing the overall quality of the product for the sake of simpability of the product and I do not like that approach.
Spotting a playable agent in the city currently is an event in itself as they always have a reason to be there and all of it plays towards the overall immersion. On the other hand, getting to use them in the open world area is out of place in ZZZ and it would ruin immersion even if you just see someone else using that option. Unless they create exclusive new content where it would swap the positions and make it so having our MC in the area is considered out of place, I would be against having the option in the first place.
I understand that this is entriely my issue(well, there are other people in your comments voicing it too, but I'm sure we're a minority), but If you ever saw a picture of two Ambers from genshin standing besides each other and it somehow irked you, then you would probably understand this feeling too.
Edit: To add to the 2nd point, just think of the reaction of people(and yourself) from seeing Lighter in the city, or finding Lucy and Piper for the first time. It's a nice little event and generates interesting discussions online. Having to run as these characters takes away that special feeling and it will only be reserved for maybe some unreleased characters