Thank you Father Paul for this wonderful answer. I will be immediately getting on my knees to pray my Hail Mary to my Mother and then sincerely offering toGod my sorrow for telling 2 lies.
Thank you for being clear on this point. So many priests tell us that if you are not aware of having committed mortal sin, then you are in the state of grace (assuming one is baptized, etc.) Lately I have been seeing that this is not enough because there are factors like culpable ignorance and negligence. I saw a poster on the 9 ways to participate in another person’s sin. This has provided plenty of food for thought. Here’s an example that may hit hard for many. How many people gossip? How often does this gossip involve slander and detraction? How many Catholics know that the Church teaches these are generally mortal sins except in certain circumstances? How many Catholics know that it could be just as gravely sinful to listen to these things as to speak them? If you don’t know that because you have neglected to inform yourself on Catholic teachings, whose fault is that? Ignorance does not always diminish culpability; deliberate ignorance increases culpability (CCC 1859-1860). I must admit that I have a hard time hearing the voice of conscience in the midst of social interactions, but this improves with effort. How many communities are there in which we never speak ill of others? How many things do we do or neglect to do because we are too lazy to think, or too hesitant to act? It can be very hard to judge these matters. At the same time, Fr. very rightly points out that we must decide, as best we can, whether we are in a state of grace in order to receive Communion. We must not get hung up on scruples.
Fr. If I'm weak in prayer given by the church but remember God almost everytime of the day and talk to Him all the time as a friend and surrender every moment to Him to guide every steps that I take, Is that helps me to be in the state of grace .
THANKS FOR OUR LADY OF ROSARY FATIMA 'GRACE. YOUR HOMILIY. PRAY FOR MYSELF AND MY FAMILY MEMBERS CHILDREN AND RELATIVES. I'M SIMON UBAL D'SOUZA KARACHI.
Wow! What a nugget this is. Pray for the grace to want to repent, I will pray this for all the people I pray for conversion. Thank you Father, may God bless you!
Father is right - despite what anyone who's been to Medjugorje might tell you. Fundamentals of Catholic Dogma, the respected reference text for clergy, states it is de Fide (the highest possible level of doctrine) that: "Without special Divine Revelation no one can know with the certainty of faith, if they be in the state of grace." [Chapter 4:22]
I, like many, am tempted severely every day and if I concede to any temptation and offend God, the temptations instantly stop. It is, on one hand a terrible burden, but also nice to know we are being tested and therefore in the State of Grace.
@@user-zu4ov6ph8xNo, you can be in a state of mortal sin and still be tempted by the devil. In fact that’s extremely common, especially if you have repented but have not yet received absolution via the Sacrament of Confession.
I know that I'm in the state of grace because God is Love. That's it! Nothing more is to be said or can be said. There are no requirements ... - God loves us all unconditionally!
I respectfully think this needs some clarification. The Church teaches that a good act of contrition alone generally does not move one out of a state of mortal sin and into a state of grace. Without first receiving the Sacrament of Reconciliation it would usually require an act of perfect contrition which is extraordinary.
Father said this exact thing. Saying the Ave, and the Act of contrition, how I heard it, was to move your heart in repentance. Repent, turn away, and go to confession. I heard it as a way of showing God, that you are Sorrowful. Like sending flowers to your beloved, before you tell her you are truly sorry. Especially if what you did affected the relationship. The difference being your relationship with your beloved might be injured permanently, even after saying sorry. But with God it’s forgiven, and the relationship is healed. That’s how I understood it.
It was defined at the Council of Trent that a real act of contrition, motivated by charity, does in fact reconcile to God. One must still obey the precept of Confession.
Jesus said it was the good people who were his friends and those that had been a blessing to him through their care for others who were hungry, tor naked and had visited people in prison thereby in caring for people they were showing their love for him These were the people on his right hand How did we make that leap?
Jesus also said to His Apostles- “Receive the Holy Spirit. For those whose sins you forgive, they are forgiven; for those whose sins you retain, they are retained” (John 20:22).
God's word is not restricted to the Holy Bible. Not all of God's revelation is given in the text. St. Paul said we should hold fast to the traditions, scripture (old testament) and word of mouth teaching-- this includes the doctrine of state of grace. Use common sense. Humans are equipped by God to use their intelligence. If you're doing and living how Christ our Lord commands then what should this be called? The answer is being in a "state of grace". Everything in life has a name, right? Well living according to the Holy Gospels has a name which is called state of grace. I simplified it for you. I hope this helps you. God bless.
Right, the grace to do good and abide by Christ's laws but if you're not doing that yet only claiming you have faith then that is not enough. You need faith and the grace of good works to be saved. You can't have one and not the other. Be careful with that faith alone teaching.
Yes, faith and grace are critical and necessary, but those are the start of our salvation, not the end. Jesus conquered death, but He didn't make our ongoing life decisions for us; it's an everyday effort and commitment.
Thank you for your question. When a "grave inconvenience" exists, one is not required to attend Holy Mass. Such inconvenience may even be on the part of another, excusing a caregiver. God bless you.
My question when we are elderly and caring for a sick spouse by fearing to leave them alone and miss mass plus the fear of bringing covid to a chemo patient.what can a person do because we are always in mortal sin. Help please
Thank you for your question. The obligation to assist at Holy Mass does not bind on one who serves as a needed caregiver. But your own need for the Sacraments and for assisting at the Church's public rites of worship should move you to find an alternate helper so you are able to leave your spouse's bedside long enough to go to Sunday Mass. God bless you.
Thank you for your question. Sanctifying grace is the principle of supernatural life, just as the soul is the principle of natural life. That is, just as only living persons, with their souls united to their bodies, are capable of actions in the natural realm, only persons in the state of sanctifying grace are capable of performing supernatural acts -- acts which are meritorious toward gaining the supernatural reward of Heaven. For those in the state of grace, even natural acts such as our daily duties in this life are rendered supernaturally meritorious when offered to God as acts of love and obedience to His will. God bless you.
Make a good and prayerful examination of conscience, possibly using a guide such as linked below. After a serious effort to remember all serious sins, and exciting sorrow for them all, and plainly confessing all that you can remember, do not worry if you remember some more sins later. You must confess them in your next confession, but they are already forgiven. web.archive.org/web/20200217234810/archive.fatima.org/essentials/requests/examconc.asp
Thank you for this important question. When we receive the Sacrament of Penance, it is necessary to confess all mortal sins. By concealing a serious sin in the Sacrament, one would commit another serious sin (of sacrilege), and even those sins which were confessed would not be forgiven. But to forget a serious sin is a different matter. If we prepare to receive the Sacrament by making a sincere effort to recall all sins committed since our last worthy Confession, and we bring to the Sacrament a "universal" contrition taking in any and every offence against God, then all of our sins are forgiven through the priest's absolution -- including even any sins which were forgotten. But if later we recall such sins, we have a grave obligation to mention them in our next Confession. In the meantime, there is no need to worry about the state of our soul or to abstain from receiving Holy Communion until the next opportunity for Confession because the now-remembered sin is already forgiven. God bless you.
Father I did for give my enemy's but what if they keep picking on you ??? Although same time bad thoughts keep caming???? And can you plsssssssssssssss ues easy words so I can under stand each words thks
You must always continue to forgive. It is not a sin to be tempted if you do not give in to the temptation. Reject the bad thoughts and stay busy to keep your mind occupied with other things. Read the Bible often to train your mind to holy thoughts.
Thank you for your question. It would be a "matter" of mortal sin to break the prescribed Communion fast. To do so carelessly or intentionally would be a mortal sin. God bless you.
After the rapture of the FEW and the lukewarm left behind, they will show true nature as The Restrainer is taken out and the pestilence comes down. HELL is a choice we make and many have made that choice.
So, if I understand what is being presented here, the Catholic Church rejects the truth that Jesus is the Lamb of God who took away the sin of the world? Is that what I should take away from this? And how is it that being baptized in water restores the Spirit of Life that was lost when Adam sinned in the Garden of Eden? How would Adam lose the Holy Spirit that was breathed into him upon his creation if the sin he committed was violation of a dietary law? I thought that the church views dietary laws as ceremonial laws that we are not bound to. Wouldn’t that be a venial sin, at best? I always thought that faith comes by hearing. How can we know for sure that an infant who is baptized understands the words being spoken over them to come to faith? If it was faith that restored the Holy Spirit to Cornelius in Acts 10 and it came without being baptized in water, why is water baptism of any concern? This makes no sense to me.
Thank you for your questions. That Adam's sin was a grievous crime putting the whole human race (of which he was the head) at enmity with God, is clear from Romans 5:12, "Wherefore as by one man sin entered into this world, and by sin death; and so death passed upon all men, in whom all have sinned." By Our Lord's own institution, the Sacrament of Baptism replaced the Old Covenant rite of circumcision by which infants were incorporated into the ecclesia of the True Faith and regenerated into the life of sanctifying grace. For adults, this translation into the state of grace (called Justification) is likely to occur before the conferral of the Sacrament, for which reason catechumens are typically received into the Church at once each year at Eastertime. For these, the Sacrament is a necessity of precept, not of means. For infants, however, since they cannot yet elicit an act of faith, the Sacrament is a necessity of means for salvation, and Baptisms are performed within days of birth -- or immediately when there is danger of death. The Church's teachings of the process of Justification are fully explained in the documents of the Council of Trent. (See the Sixth Session.) We urge you to continue your investigation of the Catholic Faith. God bless you. www.papalencyclicals.net/councils/trent.htm
@@TheFatimaCenter Greetings Father and thank you for your response, however you didn’t really address my concerns. I personally do not see Christ as instituting any of the sacraments that you referred to. Water baptism was instituted by the Pharisees as a means of converting a Gentile. John the Baptist used their religious rite in order to identify the Christ. Jesus did not institute communion at the last supper. He and His disciples were observing Passover and Passover was an observance to remember the Israelites freedom from slavery in Egypt. Jesus did shift the focus of the remembrance to what He would do for all of humanity through His death burial and resurrection. And in regard to sin, what I see in scripture is that the wages of sin is death. Why did the church change that to, ‘the wages of sin is apology? This makes no sense to me personally. How do we reconcile these apparent conflicts? God bless.
Thank you for your question which we will submit for response in our Ask Father video series. In the meantime we note that serious sin (mortal sin) renders our souls as you suggest, "full of sin" and in a continual state of aversion from God. Venial sin, however, does not do this. God bless you.
I suppose different religions could define "the state of grace" in many ways. How about letting GOD do it? Religions make everything too complicated. The CREATOR has the ultimate say for HIS creations.
thank you...I just went to confession after 13 years I hope I can maintain this state of grace
Thank you Father," if I'm not in a state of grace I pray God puts me there!"Saint Joan of Arc, I think. God bless!
Thank you Father Paul for this wonderful answer. I will be immediately getting on my knees to pray my Hail Mary to my Mother and then sincerely offering toGod my sorrow for telling 2 lies.
This is brilliant. Thank you. Wish there was a ❤ button on RUclips!
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THANK YOU FR PAUL FOR BEING A GOOD & FAITHFUL SHEPHERD. 🙏🙏🙏
Thank you Fr. Paul for this brilliant definition of "the state of grace." God Bless you.🙏🙏🙏☘️
Thank you for being clear on this point. So many priests tell us that if you are not aware of having committed mortal sin, then you are in the state of grace (assuming one is baptized, etc.) Lately I have been seeing that this is not enough because there are factors like culpable ignorance and negligence. I saw a poster on the 9 ways to participate in another person’s sin. This has provided plenty of food for thought.
Here’s an example that may hit hard for many. How many people gossip? How often does this gossip involve slander and detraction? How many Catholics know that the Church teaches these are generally mortal sins except in certain circumstances? How many Catholics know that it could be just as gravely sinful to listen to these things as to speak them? If you don’t know that because you have neglected to inform yourself on Catholic teachings, whose fault is that? Ignorance does not always diminish culpability; deliberate ignorance increases culpability (CCC 1859-1860). I must admit that I have a hard time hearing the voice of conscience in the midst of social interactions, but this improves with effort. How many communities are there in which we never speak ill of others?
How many things do we do or neglect to do because we are too lazy to think, or too hesitant to act? It can be very hard to judge these matters. At the same time, Fr. very rightly points out that we must decide, as best we can, whether we are in a state of grace in order to receive Communion. We must not get hung up on scruples.
Love God, and hate sin 🙏
Dear Jesus please help me to hate sin because it hurts You 🙏 and I don't want to hurt You Anymore 🙏 VIVA CRISTO REY
THANK YOU Father!!! Please address scruplosity.
Fr. If I'm weak in prayer given by the church but remember God almost everytime of the day and talk to Him all the time as a friend and surrender every moment to Him to guide every steps that I take, Is that helps me to be in the state of grace .
Wow. Thanks for this. IMO, worth watching every now and then coz this is essential to our practice of faith.
THANK YOU FATHER...GOD BLESS YOU!!!❤❤❤
Thank you Fr!!! I was wondering the very same thing and your answer was very clear! God bless you and protect you.
THANKS FOR OUR LADY OF ROSARY FATIMA 'GRACE. YOUR HOMILIY. PRAY FOR MYSELF AND MY FAMILY MEMBERS CHILDREN AND RELATIVES. I'M SIMON UBAL D'SOUZA KARACHI.
Thank you for giving a clear and understanding answer to the question of being in a state of Grace.
Ohhhh I'm so grateful for this channel 🙏😁
Ty, Father Paul. Im praying for you!
THANKS FR. PAUL FOR HOMILIY OF GRACES. I'M SIMON UBAL D'SOUZA KARACHI AMEN.
May God bless you, father.
Thank you father God bless you too 🙏🏻 ❤
Thank you Father Paul!
Thank you for the practical advice
Excellent
Thank you Father, I do believe I finally in state of grace. Thank you
God bless you! May He preserve us from all enemies of our salvation.
Thank you Fr. Paul! Very elaborate and practical explanation of "state of grace".
Wow! What a nugget this is. Pray for the grace to want to repent, I will pray this for all the people I pray for conversion. Thank you Father, may God bless you!
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Great talk Father.Thanks
Thank you Fr Paul. God bless you🕯👐
Thank you, Father.
Amen, Thank you Fr.Paul.
Thanks fr paul,for the information
Amen ❤🙌🏼
Father is right - despite what anyone who's been to Medjugorje might tell you. Fundamentals of Catholic Dogma, the respected reference text for clergy, states it is de Fide (the highest possible level of doctrine) that: "Without special Divine Revelation no one can know with the certainty of faith, if they be in the state of grace." [Chapter 4:22]
Thanks for the pro tip. 🤝
Thank you, Fr.
This cleared my confusion.
God bless you more
You're in a state of grace when you are born again.
Great answer!! Just wanted to maybe add that a perfect act of contrition is not sufficient to receive Holy Communion.
I, like many, am tempted severely every day and if I concede to any temptation and offend God, the temptations instantly stop. It is, on one hand a terrible burden, but also nice to know we are being tested and therefore in the State of Grace.
@@user-zu4ov6ph8xNo, you can be in a state of mortal sin and still be tempted by the devil. In fact that’s extremely common, especially if you have repented but have not yet received absolution via the Sacrament of Confession.
I know that I'm in the state of grace because God is Love. That's it! Nothing more is to be said or can be said. There are no requirements ... - God loves us all unconditionally!
God loves us all and died for us. Some respond to the offer and cooperate with grace and love him in return. Others are "poor sinners".
well, God does loves us all, but it doesn't mean we're all in the state of grace
Thank you
I respectfully think this needs some clarification. The Church teaches that a good act of contrition alone generally does not move one out of a state of mortal sin and into a state of grace. Without first receiving the Sacrament of Reconciliation it would usually require an act of perfect contrition which is extraordinary.
Father said this exact thing.
Saying the Ave, and the Act of contrition, how I heard it, was to move your heart in repentance. Repent, turn away, and go to confession. I heard it as a way of showing God, that you are Sorrowful.
Like sending flowers to your beloved, before you tell her you are truly sorry. Especially if what you did affected the relationship. The difference being your relationship with your beloved might be injured permanently, even after saying sorry. But with God it’s forgiven, and the relationship is healed.
That’s how I understood it.
Where in the Bible does it say you have to have perfect contrition to be forgiven?
Where in the Bible does it say we must only follow revelation in Scripture?
It was defined at the Council of Trent that a real act of contrition, motivated by charity, does in fact reconcile to God. One must still obey the precept of Confession.
Jesus said it was the good people who were his friends and those that had been a blessing to him through their care for others who were hungry, tor naked and had visited people in prison thereby in caring for people they were showing their love for him These were the people on his right hand How did we make that leap?
Jesus also said to His Apostles- “Receive the Holy Spirit. For those whose sins you forgive, they are forgiven; for those whose sins you retain, they are retained” (John 20:22).
@@mph1ish Yes also
@@grahamcmusic Yes so we all need to get to Confession.
JUSTIFICATION (in Bible) = STATE OF GRACE (in Catholic terminology) We are justified by faith (James 2:24) and saved by grace (Ephesians 2:8).
Matthew 25: 31-46 Faith alone doesn’t cut it.
God's word is not restricted to the Holy Bible. Not all of God's revelation is given in the text. St. Paul said we should hold fast to the traditions, scripture (old testament) and word of mouth teaching-- this includes the doctrine of state of grace. Use common sense. Humans are equipped by God to use their intelligence. If you're doing and living how Christ our Lord commands then what should this be called? The answer is being in a "state of grace". Everything in life has a name, right? Well living according to the Holy Gospels has a name which is called state of grace. I simplified it for you. I hope this helps you. God bless.
@@lizmonardAmen. ✝️
Right, the grace to do good and abide by Christ's laws but if you're not doing that yet only claiming you have faith then that is not enough. You need faith and the grace of good works to be saved. You can't have one and not the other. Be careful with that faith alone teaching.
Yes, faith and grace are critical and necessary, but those are the start of our salvation, not the end.
Jesus conquered death, but He didn't make our ongoing life decisions for us; it's an everyday effort and commitment.
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Is it a sin to miss Mass due to icy and snowy conditions when you have limited mobility?
Thank you for your question. When a "grave inconvenience" exists, one is not required to attend Holy Mass. Such inconvenience may even be on the part of another, excusing a caregiver. God bless you.
Can you explan the mortals sins ,in easy words as I am not English thk bless us
A mortal sin is a serious sin for which one would go to hell. Examples are drunkenness, fornication, adultery, murder, contraception.
My question when we are elderly and caring for a sick spouse by fearing to leave them alone and miss mass plus the fear of bringing covid to a chemo patient.what can a person do because we are always in mortal sin. Help please
Thank you for your question. The obligation to assist at Holy Mass does not bind on one who serves as a needed caregiver. But your own need for the Sacraments and for assisting at the Church's public rites of worship should move you to find an alternate helper so you are able to leave your spouse's bedside long enough to go to Sunday Mass. God bless you.
What does a supernova lifestyle mean and how do we live in that way?
Thank you for your question. Sanctifying grace is the principle of supernatural life, just as the soul is the principle of natural life. That is, just as only living persons, with their souls united to their bodies, are capable of actions in the natural realm, only persons in the state of sanctifying grace are capable of performing supernatural acts -- acts which are meritorious toward gaining the supernatural reward of Heaven. For those in the state of grace, even natural acts such as our daily duties in this life are rendered supernaturally meritorious when offered to God as acts of love and obedience to His will. God bless you.
If same one can t rember all his sins ,what can one do?? And why I feel I still have sins after I confess thkkk
Make a good and prayerful examination of conscience, possibly using a guide such as linked below. After a serious effort to remember all serious sins, and exciting sorrow for them all, and plainly confessing all that you can remember, do not worry if you remember some more sins later. You must confess them in your next confession, but they are already forgiven. web.archive.org/web/20200217234810/archive.fatima.org/essentials/requests/examconc.asp
When we go to confession, get absolution, and forget a sin..are you still in a state of. Grace?
In confession, always ask forgiveness for any sin you just can't remember at the time.
Thank you for this important question. When we receive the Sacrament of Penance, it is necessary to confess all mortal sins. By concealing a serious sin in the Sacrament, one would commit another serious sin (of sacrilege), and even those sins which were confessed would not be forgiven. But to forget a serious sin is a different matter. If we prepare to receive the Sacrament by making a sincere effort to recall all sins committed since our last worthy Confession, and we bring to the Sacrament a "universal" contrition taking in any and every offence against God, then all of our sins are forgiven through the priest's absolution -- including even any sins which were forgotten. But if later we recall such sins, we have a grave obligation to mention them in our next Confession. In the meantime, there is no need to worry about the state of our soul or to abstain from receiving Holy Communion until the next opportunity for Confession because the now-remembered sin is already forgiven. God bless you.
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Father I did for give my enemy's but what if they keep picking on you ??? Although same time bad thoughts keep caming???? And can you plsssssssssssssss ues easy words so I can under stand each words thks
You must always continue to forgive. It is not a sin to be tempted if you do not give in to the temptation. Reject the bad thoughts and stay busy to keep your mind occupied with other things. Read the Bible often to train your mind to holy thoughts.
Is it a mortal sin to receive the holy Eucharist too soon after eating food or a milk shake
Thank you for your question. It would be a "matter" of mortal sin to break the prescribed Communion fast. To do so carelessly or intentionally would be a mortal sin. God bless you.
After the rapture of the FEW and the lukewarm left behind, they will show true nature as The Restrainer is taken out and the pestilence comes down. HELL is a choice we make and many have made that choice.
So, if I understand what is being presented here, the Catholic Church rejects the truth that Jesus is the Lamb of God who took away the sin of the world? Is that what I should take away from this? And how is it that being baptized in water restores the Spirit of Life that was lost when Adam sinned in the Garden of Eden? How would Adam lose the Holy Spirit that was breathed into him upon his creation if the sin he committed was violation of a dietary law? I thought that the church views dietary laws as ceremonial laws that we are not bound to. Wouldn’t that be a venial sin, at best? I always thought that faith comes by hearing. How can we know for sure that an infant who is baptized understands the words being spoken over them to come to faith? If it was faith that restored the Holy Spirit to Cornelius in Acts 10 and it came without being baptized in water, why is water baptism of any concern? This makes no sense to me.
Thank you for your questions. That Adam's sin was a grievous crime putting the whole human race (of which he was the head) at enmity with God, is clear from Romans 5:12, "Wherefore as by one man sin entered into this world, and by sin death; and so death passed upon all men, in whom all have sinned."
By Our Lord's own institution, the Sacrament of Baptism replaced the Old Covenant rite of circumcision by which infants were incorporated into the ecclesia of the True Faith and regenerated into the life of sanctifying grace. For adults, this translation into the state of grace (called Justification) is likely to occur before the conferral of the Sacrament, for which reason catechumens are typically received into the Church at once each year at Eastertime. For these, the Sacrament is a necessity of precept, not of means. For infants, however, since they cannot yet elicit an act of faith, the Sacrament is a necessity of means for salvation, and Baptisms are performed within days of birth -- or immediately when there is danger of death.
The Church's teachings of the process of Justification are fully explained in the documents of the Council of Trent. (See the Sixth Session.) We urge you to continue your investigation of the Catholic Faith. God bless you.
www.papalencyclicals.net/councils/trent.htm
@@TheFatimaCenter Greetings Father and thank you for your response, however you didn’t really address my concerns. I personally do not see Christ as instituting any of the sacraments that you referred to. Water baptism was instituted by the Pharisees as a means of converting a Gentile. John the Baptist used their religious rite in order to identify the Christ. Jesus did not institute communion at the last supper. He and His disciples were observing Passover and Passover was an observance to remember the Israelites freedom from slavery in Egypt. Jesus did shift the focus of the remembrance to what He would do for all of humanity through His death burial and resurrection. And in regard to sin, what I see in scripture is that the wages of sin is death. Why did the church change that to, ‘the wages of sin is apology? This makes no sense to me personally. How do we reconcile these apparent conflicts? God bless.
I am confused. If God and the Holy Spirit cant abide sin how do they live in us? We are full of sin.
Thank you for your question which we will submit for response in our Ask Father video series. In the meantime we note that serious sin (mortal sin) renders our souls as you suggest, "full of sin" and in a continual state of aversion from God. Venial sin, however, does not do this. God bless you.
I suppose different religions could define "the state of grace" in many ways. How about letting GOD do it?
Religions make everything too complicated. The CREATOR has the ultimate say for HIS creations.
Is'nt "you cannot know you ar e in a state of Grace" one of the 300+ official teachings of the church?
Yes, as Father McDonald points out at 9:10, we cannot have certainty of being in the state of sanctifying grace. God bless you.
One can be fairly sure if they are practicing their faith
Why
Read St. PAULand the eat Church Fathers...there was no Protestantism then inly the full teachings of God
They're in a state of confusion.