Interesting question, though I'm not too sure. It really depends on what identity the Cape were to choose. I could see them joining the commonwealth, but I think the Afrikaner elements in the Cape would be against it, possibly thinking of it as a "British Empire 2.0". However, if they were being pragmatic, and if they had some motive, maybe if they wanted protection from a hostile South Africa, then maybe they'd join, perhaps it'd alter the identity of CANZUK slightly, as you'd have another bilingual nation, (The other being Canada) granted those are just my thoughts, I'd be happy to hear yours.
Very nice. I feared it would be some "...and by 2050 they united africa" video. But its such a nice video. 152 seconds and you manage to include everything from the current problems to what could lead to independece and what could possibly happen in the future hell it took me almost longer to write this comment. Big like my friend, may you rule the waves ;)
Thanks, glad you enjoyed, (I probably should've explained the 2022 - 2050 was meant to represent the time period in which I see them gaining their independence.
an overlooked idea for an African Nation, I like how you can somewhat predict how the Cape Republic could or might govern if it gained independence. There might be a Revolutinary War between the Cape and South Africa if South Africa's current government were to reject Cape independence even if it won it through polls.
Potentially, granted a revolutionary war could be quite bloody, I suppose it depends on just how bad the tensions between the two sides get, but if there was a war, I'd imagine some other groups might also try get independence from South Africa at the same time.
@@patrioticbritishmapper8352 Agreed, If it got that bad, America and the UN might pressure South Africa to grant independence to the Cape unless they dont care as usual lol
I'm from KZN and I fully support the Cape independence, but I don't think the relations would be bad with SA nor do I think they would be on the complete side of the west. They wouldn't support Israel, rather Palestine for the same reason as why Ireland does. The only connection to the western world would be their relations with Europe, Canada, Australia and New Zealand.
Thanks for your comment, always happy to have someone who's from the actual country tell me what they think about, never knew Ireland supported Palestine though. What's KZN like out of curiosity?
@@patrioticbritishmapper8352 KZN is terrible, like living in a post apocalyptic world. Unless you live in wealthy areas like Uhmlanga or Ballito, the rest is horrible nowadays. I hope to move to the Cape soon. The difference in life style is out of this world.
South Africa should probably disband, between the Afrikaners, Cape coloured, and Zulu aswell as other African tribes. Maybe South Africa could survive as a union.
If the Zulu became independent then Xhosa speaking, would also want a independent federal state as we have had the Inkonyane Regiment under King Hintsa before arrival of Colonials in our region
@@patrioticbritishmapper8352 it would be like republics of Russia Before Europeans arrived, the Xhosa lived peacefully with Abathembu Kingdom, Mpondomise Kingdom, Amaqwathi Kingdom, AmaXesibe Chiefdom( Descendents of Khoisans) and amaMpondo Kingdom. All those kingdoms were unified by the Xhosa Language except Mpondo Kingdom, they have their own language called isiMpondo which is today becoming extinct due to it not being taught in schools as it is not recognized, More thand 70% of Mpondo natives don't understand their language as 100% of them understand isiXhosa language The Mpondo have their own dialect which is heavily influenced by xhosa grammar and accent) The amaBhaca people came to the Inkonyane Regiment due to escaping from Shaka Zulu who wanted to take over their land in the KwaZulu region, instead uniting with the Zulu the amaBhaca fled as their were linguistically and culturally different from the Zulu and fled south west towards the Xhosa region and met with Mpondomise Kingdom and amaQwathi Kingdom and a war broke out. King of AmaMpondomise sent some of his men to let King Hintsa hear about the incident as he had the largest military in the Inkonyane region to help fight the amaBhaca, then King Hintsa went to the land of AmaQwathi with his amaButho(military) to fight the amaBhaca. When he got there he was able to stop the fight and was informed that the amaBhaca King killed young men who were in initiation school(who were getting circumcised to become men) of which was a first in the region for young men in initiation school to be killed so the AmaBhaca King was killed and AmaBhaca followers were given land in to settle in which where their King was buried in a Town now called kwaBhaca( which means the land of Bhaca people) The Bhaca speak their own language which is related to Swati Language from eSwatini But bhaca language is known buy less than 20% of Bhaca people and all of Bhaca people is speak isiXhosa fluently as it was the language of trade in the area and its a Language taught in schools The Xhosa region also has Abesuthu which come from the first Migration of Basotho people in the Xhosa region, they now speak and practice Xhosa culture, tradition and language. The second migration of Basotho people resulted in people who are called AmaHlubi, they speak isiXhosa but have a different Culture and tradition. They don't have a specific region as it is not clear who their King is, but are mostly found regions which were under Mpondomise Kingdom and KwaBhaca region Another migration of people at the beginning of Colonialism was the Khoisan people who were known as AmaGqunukhwebe in The Xhosa language they inhabited the coastal region of which is now the coastal town of East London The Inkonyane Regiment under King Hintsa and his predecessors was a peaceful Kingdom as each Kingdom was allowed autonomous dependence but the other Kingdom used to have disputes and the The Xhosa kings would be called to resolved the issues. All people who came to live along Xhosa speaking people were giving autonomous independence even though some adopted Xhosa language and culture The Xhosa were found in regions of what is now towns called KuGatyane, Idutywa, eCofimvaba, kuCentane, eGcuwa, eQoboqobo, Gqeberha and etc Before Colonialism
@@patrioticbritishmapper8352 it would become a federation of Xhosa people, AmaMpondondo, Abathembu, AmaHlubi, AmaBhaca Look at history of Transkei and Ciskei But would defined take much more land than that And would probably lead to land dispute between KZN and the newly created Xhosa Federation, in areas such Kokstad and Matatiela which have large xhosa population that are under KZN province
I highly doubt the Cape Republic would be a “direct democracy”. I’m sure they’re extremely familiar of when one group of people would seize political control to oppress another group. Apartheid and Black Economic Empowerment policies, are obvious examples. I’d bet it would be a republic with a very strict constitution. Switzerland and the United States would likely be their biggest influences. I’ve heard on numerous occasions from South African supporters that they’d like to emulate aspects of those countries.
I know this video is over a year old but as someone originally from the Western Cape and an avid supporter of Cape independence this is great.
I'm glad you liked it, if any new developments come put I'll make a sequel.
I talked to someone from the Cape about it, and I hope they get it. If they do, I’m curious to see the political path they take.
Great video on it!
Thanks, I'm very interested to see what happens too.
I would love to see more future countries please that was so much fun! Great video :)
Glad you like them, there's a new one coming out tonight all being well
One more thing, if canzuk became a thing would it join? I mean it does make sense and would be a huge economic and political opportunity
Interesting question, though I'm not too sure. It really depends on what identity the Cape were to choose. I could see them joining the commonwealth, but I think the Afrikaner elements in the Cape would be against it, possibly thinking of it as a "British Empire 2.0". However, if they were being pragmatic, and if they had some motive, maybe if they wanted protection from a hostile South Africa, then maybe they'd join, perhaps it'd alter the identity of CANZUK slightly, as you'd have another bilingual nation, (The other being Canada) granted those are just my thoughts, I'd be happy to hear yours.
@@patrioticbritishmapper8352 I agree completely.
No.
@@FlaviusConstantinus306 true
Western and Northern Cape break away together as soon as possible.
The fact this video has no dislikes makes me have great visions for the future of your channel !
Thanks, means a lot.
maybe yt hid them
They have now lol
Very nice. I feared it would be some "...and by 2050 they united africa" video.
But its such a nice video. 152 seconds and you manage to include everything from the current problems to what could lead to independece and what could possibly happen in the future
hell it took me almost longer to write this comment.
Big like my friend, may you rule the waves ;)
Thanks, glad you enjoyed, (I probably should've explained the 2022 - 2050 was meant to represent the time period in which I see them gaining their independence.
@@patrioticbritishmapper8352 Yeah. i really enjoyed it. Its a shame that you dont have a bigger audience.
Awesome Video!
#FreeTheCape
If South Africa as a whole doesn't collapse by 2030 I'll be surprised.
2:14 I did not know that Nepal, Bhutan and the DRC are western allies
I'm not sure about the DRC, I based it on a map of American Allies, but I'm not sure its all right
The DRC might not be a Western Ally, They probably would if they were stable.
an overlooked idea for an African Nation, I like how you can somewhat predict how the Cape Republic could or might govern if it gained independence.
There might be a Revolutinary War between the Cape and South Africa if South Africa's current government were to reject Cape independence even if it won it through polls.
Potentially, granted a revolutionary war could be quite bloody, I suppose it depends on just how bad the tensions between the two sides get, but if there was a war, I'd imagine some other groups might also try get independence from South Africa at the same time.
@@patrioticbritishmapper8352 Agreed, If it got that bad, America and the UN might pressure South Africa to grant independence to the Cape unless they dont care as usual lol
I'm from KZN and I fully support the Cape independence, but I don't think the relations would be bad with SA nor do I think they would be on the complete side of the west. They wouldn't support Israel, rather Palestine for the same reason as why Ireland does. The only connection to the western world would be their relations with Europe, Canada, Australia and New Zealand.
Thanks for your comment, always happy to have someone who's from the actual country tell me what they think about, never knew Ireland supported Palestine though. What's KZN like out of curiosity?
@@patrioticbritishmapper8352 KZN is terrible, like living in a post apocalyptic world. Unless you live in wealthy areas like Uhmlanga or Ballito, the rest is horrible nowadays. I hope to move to the Cape soon. The difference in life style is out of this world.
Oh, I see why you show us maps about South Africa in discord
The secret is out lol.
Yeah, the answer has been revealed.
Neat
Thanks.
South Africa should probably disband, between the Afrikaners, Cape coloured, and Zulu aswell as other African tribes. Maybe South Africa could survive as a union.
Maybe
If the Zulu became independent then Xhosa speaking, would also want a independent federal state as we have had the Inkonyane Regiment under King Hintsa before arrival of Colonials in our region
Interesting, so this could theoretically see the entire coastline become independent. What do you think and independent Xhosa state would look like?
@@patrioticbritishmapper8352 it would be like republics of Russia
Before Europeans arrived, the Xhosa lived peacefully with Abathembu Kingdom, Mpondomise Kingdom, Amaqwathi Kingdom, AmaXesibe Chiefdom( Descendents of Khoisans) and amaMpondo Kingdom. All those kingdoms were unified by the Xhosa Language except Mpondo Kingdom, they have their own language called isiMpondo which is today becoming extinct due to it not being taught in schools as it is not recognized, More thand 70% of Mpondo natives don't understand their language as 100% of them understand isiXhosa language
The Mpondo have their own dialect which is heavily influenced by xhosa grammar and accent)
The amaBhaca people came to the Inkonyane Regiment due to escaping from Shaka Zulu who wanted to take over their land in the KwaZulu region, instead uniting with the Zulu the amaBhaca fled as their were linguistically and culturally different from the Zulu and fled south west towards the Xhosa region and met with Mpondomise Kingdom and amaQwathi Kingdom and a war broke out. King of AmaMpondomise sent some of his men to let King Hintsa hear about the incident as he had the largest military in the Inkonyane region to help fight the amaBhaca, then King Hintsa went to the land of AmaQwathi with his amaButho(military) to fight the amaBhaca.
When he got there he was able to stop the fight and was informed that the amaBhaca King killed young men who were in initiation school(who were getting circumcised to become men) of which was a first in the region for young men in initiation school to be killed so the AmaBhaca King was killed and AmaBhaca followers were given land in to settle in which where their King was buried in a Town now called kwaBhaca( which means the land of Bhaca people)
The Bhaca speak their own language which is related to Swati Language from eSwatini
But bhaca language is known buy less than 20% of Bhaca people and all of Bhaca people is speak isiXhosa fluently as it was the language of trade in the area and its a Language taught in schools
The Xhosa region also has Abesuthu which come from the first Migration of Basotho people in the Xhosa region, they now speak and practice Xhosa culture, tradition and language. The second migration of Basotho people resulted in people who are called AmaHlubi, they speak isiXhosa but have a different Culture and tradition. They don't have a specific region as it is not clear who their King is, but are mostly found regions which were under Mpondomise Kingdom and KwaBhaca region
Another migration of people at the beginning of Colonialism was the Khoisan people who were known as AmaGqunukhwebe in The Xhosa language they inhabited the coastal region of which is now the coastal town of East London
The Inkonyane Regiment under King Hintsa and his predecessors was a peaceful Kingdom as each Kingdom was allowed autonomous dependence but the other Kingdom used to have disputes and the The Xhosa kings would be called to resolved the issues. All people who came to live along Xhosa speaking people were giving autonomous independence even though some adopted Xhosa language and culture
The Xhosa were found in regions of what is now towns called KuGatyane, Idutywa, eCofimvaba, kuCentane, eGcuwa, eQoboqobo, Gqeberha and etc Before Colonialism
@@patrioticbritishmapper8352 it would become a federation of Xhosa people, AmaMpondondo, Abathembu, AmaHlubi, AmaBhaca
Look at history of Transkei and Ciskei
But would defined take much more land than that
And would probably lead to land dispute between KZN and the newly created Xhosa Federation, in areas such Kokstad and Matatiela which have large xhosa population that are under KZN province
I highly doubt the Cape Republic would be a “direct democracy”. I’m sure they’re extremely familiar of when one group of people would seize political control to oppress another group. Apartheid and Black Economic Empowerment policies, are obvious examples. I’d bet it would be a republic with a very strict constitution. Switzerland and the United States would likely be their biggest influences. I’ve heard on numerous occasions from South African supporters that they’d like to emulate aspects of those countries.
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No wonder you were making maps on discord.
The cape republic forms
2 seconds later gets invaded
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Hello, how you doing?
@@patrioticbritishmapper8352 late reply but good, didnt get the reference tho but hbu?
I'm alright, by the reference, I'm assuming that's a Star Wars joke?