Cavaliers-Celtics Reaction: Donovan Mitchell STUNS Tatum’s Celtics, time to panic? | Hoops Tonight
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- Опубликовано: 9 май 2024
- Jason Timpf reacts to Donovan Mitchell and the Cleveland Cavaliers' 118-94 win over Jayson Tatum and the Boston Celtics in Game 2 of the second round of the NBA Playoffs. Jason breaks down film from the game and explains how Boston’s lack of identity on offense and lazy defense lost them this game. After tying the series at 1, do the Cavs have a legit shot at knocking off the Eastern Conference favorites?
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You can argue that Donovan Mitchell is the best player in the series.
Celtics fans would agree with you if Tatum plays like the the rest of the postseason
He’s playing the best in the series but he’s not a better all around basketball player player
no you cant and we have like 6 years of evidence to prove that
@@nicklopez1305 didn’t say it’s a fact. You can definitely make an argument. What had Tatum done?
He is playing the best but if Tatum shots starts falling then there is no argument
As a Celtics fan, J Timpf is speaking from my soul😩. So good at putting into words the frustration we feel watching the most talented and versatile team in the league leave playoff games up to chance!! So crazy! This isn’t a Sixers team or a Miami team that simply doesn’t have the pieces around their stars to win enough playoff games, this Celtics team has EVERYTHING. It’s just the way they play the game with Mazulla’s philosophy. It’s insulting to the fans but mostly an insult to the players. They take accountability in this too, but they are not put in positions to unlock their full potential, particularly Jayson Tatum. The worst part is that if they just committed to playing defense consistently, the other stuff wouldn’t matter. Poor coaching, poor leadership.
Jason you didn’t need to cook Derrick like that 🤣🤣🤣 “If he had hair it’d be on fire”
Love the show. As a celtics fan it’s tough hearing the critiques but they are true. I’d even add that a lot of what Mazzulla does and adjusts to is very reactionary. The team does not seam to impose their will and more so just reacts to what the defense is doing. It’s fine to “take what the defense gives you” but there are moments, specifically in the playoffs, where a team has to impose their will offensively. That comes with as you said, clear hierarchies.
I don't think Mazzulla reacts to anything. If he did, he would have changed the gameplan and took the ball inside when it was clear the 3 point shots weren't falling. They just kept jacking up 3s. He has no ability to adapt.
Where would the Celtics be this playoffs without Derrick white shooting the shit outta the ball. I don’t think they win the heat series in 5 games. I know that’s a hot take but I believe it.
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He’s had wide open shots tho and the other teams 3rd-4th best defender… he should do better than 1/8
You under estimate the other players, but Derek white is balling, and is probably better for a team than most other teams best player…..yes I think he is better than most teams best player.
Not a hot take. In my eyes he’s been their glue guy to bring everything together. The Celtic’s problem is when the jump shots are not hittin, they’re a very beatable team.
@jimmyordaya I don't disagree. I don't trust Tatum as a leader in clutch moments. Personally I would trade him this off-season when they lose in the Finals again and start looking for a better number 2 for Jaylen Brown. Tatum is too nonchalant after a loss as where Brown is mad afterwards. Brown is the real leader of the Celtics. That's just my opinion though. What do I know?
As a Celtics fan I'm fed up with this team. Tatum doesn't even show any interest he wants to win. Donovan Mitchell on the other hand does. Mitchell is trying his ass off and delivering, honestly I hope the cavs make it to the finals. Celtics are just a reg season team, until they get a veteran superstar and a good coach they're screwed. I've lost ALL faith on this stupid ass team. I'm done defending Tatum.
As a cavs fan I respect your analysis and its true. Mitchell has this will to win i haven't seen since lebron was here.
I respect the celtics as a badass team but I think they got too complacent thinking they are that good and not taking the competition seriously.
I think game 3 will be a much closer game. I want a competitive series. I love good basketball
If you watched that post game one interview with Mitchell you could see how focused he was on the series. He was a true leader out there. The Celtics need to play twice as well after they win. Maybe they should listen to "Don't believe the hype" more often, in fact every team in the playoffs needs to do this.
They can't run the offense through Tatum, even though he's the most talented, because:
1. He hunts fouls instead of buckets and crumbles when he doesn’t get a favorable whistle.
2. He's just as likely to make a boneheaded play as he is to make a step back 3.
3. He's usually the last guy up the floor on offense so everything is against a set half court defense.
4. He hunts mismatches too frequently, killing offensive flow and movement, leading to those iso heavy games that fail against good teams.
5. Settles for jumpshots if there's any rim protection and he's not getting a very favorable whistle. If it's not falling he gets mopey on the court and just stands there doing virtually nothing because "spacing."
6. Lacks the mental tougness or BBIQ to overcome 1-5.
That's why the offense has to run through White. He's the only guy capable of consistently making the correct read.
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big facts. looking for free throw with some half finish half floater BS shots instead of trying to take someone’s head off with a dunk
Tatum and mazulla two biggest culprits. Like I said Tatum has no issue getting to the rim.. he is terrible at finishing
He's shooting 57.3% on drives which is close to the league leaders with a lot of attempts. He just doesn't drive nearly as much as he should. Only Luka, Giannis and Lebron have a better efficiency than he does
@@JohnZannisPieskinda crazy to hear he seems weak at finishing, the playoffs, where the whistle gets tighter and more physicality is allowed he struggles. he goes in trying to draw a foul and throws up some half finish/half floater shot instead of trying to dunk on people at 6’9 and solid muscle now that he’s gained weight… i don’t get it
Someone hasn't been paying attention. He certainly used to be a bad finisher, but he's become a very good finisher. He literally shot >68% within 5 feet of the rim this year. He's certainly been worse in this playoff run, but 57% is certainly bad.
@@josephrafferty6763 don’t read box scores I watch him in playoffs every year missing layups other stars don’t. Yea he’s elite on line drives…. But force him to make any move or take contact he smokes
I’m the biggest Celtics fan on this planet and I whole heartedly believe we will make it to the finals but good lord this team can be so frustrating to watch.
The Celtics have the most talented roster in the NBA by a mile yet we’ve now gotten our asses kicked by teams that we should have absolutely destroyed.
It’s like Boston isn’t taking their opponents seriously because they are so much more talented and that’s not how you win games. Your effort should NEVER be dictated by the team on the court with you and it’s beyond discouraging to see as a fan. If we keep this bullshit up assuming we make the finals we’re gonna get our asses kicked.
I am still enraged we let Udoka walk. I know what he did within the organization was inappropriate but we should have stuck with the suspension instead of dropping him. I don’t mean to trash Mazzula but this team would NEVER look like this under Ime, they’re playing with no heart & no sense of urgency.
As a Celtics fan, I love this Jason, thank you
Man I knew the celtics were bad last night but seeing it broken down in slow-mo, just mind blowing how bad the Celtics were
Yup theyare too slow to defend
I’m from Boston love the Celtics die hard fan my entire life. This team is soft. Tatum has no and I mean no dog in him. Watch the wolves nuggets game 2 then go watch Celtics Cavs game 2. If that ends up being the finals match up I promise you wolves punk them.
Thanks Jason for the amazing content as always! This podcast is a great way to stay updated around the league, especially for someone like me who isn't able to watch the games very much
Your thread on Tatum in the lane is totally valid, but as a star, shouldn’t he expect the same treatment as Luka, Shai and Brunson? They all get those calls and I’m sure he doesn’t understand why he’s treated differently
The grueling 7-game series vs the Magic made the Cavs battle-hardened.
In Game 1, Cavs clearly just run out of gas.
Game 2 is when the series really started.
A series always starts when the Home Team wins a road game. Cavs won the Game 2 on the road and that made the series start.
Hey Jason. Love the show. Mailbag question for you. Last year, we saw the Nuggets as the number 1 offense all year and the question in the playoffs was if they could “lock in” defensively. A lot of times as observers we talk about effort on defense being key. Is it possible that this year, the #1 rated Defense Timberwolves are “locking in” on offense. If so, what specific things would go in to that improvement?
Tatum is Quiet Quitting 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
I miss Ime so bad
This is a Mazulla issue. His team has the talent to score anywhere, he just has no idea how to run an offense that relies on anything other than long range shots.
The Celtics are building around the wrong player in my opinion. Jayson Tatum is too nonchalant after losing, as where Jaylen Brown was extremely upset about the home loss to the Cavs. I know we all think that Tatum is the more talented player between the two, but Brown is a better leader. I would keep him next season and trade Tatum to find Brown a better number 2. The Celtics won't win a championship with Tatum as their main focus. That's just my opinion and I'm always in the minority anyway, so I don't care if anyone thinks I'm crazy.
I mean you admitted ur in the minority so I won’t give u much shit but nah. I think there’s an argument to say they are very close in skill range. But Jaylen brown is not a better leader, he’s a definitive second star. He doesn’t really pass and he’s extremely turnover prone. He’s also just as in love with bad shots as Tatum. Tatum (while he is a stat merchant) is a much more sound passer and FT shooter. Not to say he’s a leader tho. Tbh we need to fire second row Joe. It’s not his fault that these guys are mentally weak but this is the closest we will ever get to bringing home a banner and we cannot f around with a coach that lets them do whatever they want
you only make a video about us when we lose 😂😂😂😂😂😂
Love that you got cavs content. I do think they can win. Best player in the series usually wins. Watch out for Dean Wade.
Jason "Wtf are the Celtics doing" Timpf
That Hauser contest on Mitchell you showed on 28:40 is an example of how statistics can be misleading. On the box score that may show up as a “contested three” but it really wasn’t. As much as the coach may use stats to back up that they defended “well” that really wasn’t the case.
Great example. Totally agree. “Basketball is more art than science”
As a Celtics fan, I wholeheartedly agree with everything you said. This is a garbage brand of basketball.
Im glad you brought up the defense. When I see the wolves defend I see their effort and will. They do the little things you mentioned like try to deflect the kickout passes on double teams and they sprint back once the pass is made. Cs treat defense like a chore.
No audio?
As a Celtics fan, he's right.
Lol @ its just vibes man 🤣🤣🤣
I saw a lack of urgency on defense and overall as well, which has nothing to do with shooting. They only grabbed 6 OR, versus a team that usually surrenders a ton of them. So, effort and intensity overall was, "oh well."
I understand that you think Celtics should win. But its about matchups and it seems Cavs can matchup with C's pretty well. On paper Boston is the better team but games aren't played on paper. Cavs may lose the series but they will go down fighting.
They play defense when they feel like it. That is it exactly. You could say that about any of these play off teams, except maybe the Knicks.
If the're not running any plays for Hauser than obviously sooner or later he will make mistakes on defense(that's not his role on the team).
That's right no offense meant to Hauser but he is like a cone out there, Mitchell is just taking a practice shot in warm ups. It was like the game plan was "Lets make Donovan Mitchell look All NBA tonight". Yes they let him get comfortable so he could make a shot like that after the warm up shot. The Celtics even let Struss get jiggy at the end of the game.
I think a lot of people feel this and I’m saying it even after game 3 but mazzula just is not a good fit for head coach. He’s running like a three point experiment you can do during a rebuild but just stick to what works. This team needs a proper head coach that understands both sides of the ball and how to manage a team
Mazulla talks about winning the 3 point battle, so that’s why those early 3s happen.
Volume would be great
How many years would you keep this core together because I don’t see them beating any teams in the west
Mazzulla is a bum. No adjustments no timeout Joe. Hes inept as a head coach. Defense wins championships not chucking up 3 after 3.
There must be no good NBA headcoaches at all, a loud contingent of WARRIORS fans want Steve Kerr gone, the LAKERS just fired their headcoach, same with Phoenix. Every NBA fanbase hates the headcoach unless they win the championship in 5 games and win 65 games with an MVP player in the regular season, it's kinda ridiculous!
This is what LeBron and JJ were talking about when they said "sometimes analytics need to get the fuck outta here". This is an analytics team. It's not a serious team. When the shot isn't falling they just pack it in and blame it on variance. What is Boston's identity? Tough pull up jumpers?
My cavs exposed a weakness in Boston that can be exploited in game 3 and possibly the series.
With Allen coming back soon I have hope 🙏
are you a part owner of the Cavs by any chance?
everybody knew that was our weakness. it won’t happen four times, celts in 5-6. not a championship team tho
Firing Udoka for consensual sex was a horrible mistake.
i've been screaming hierarchy on twitter all season and been called a tatum fanboy time and time again. this celtics team is too arrogant to see that their brand of basketball isn't the way to capitalize on the full potential of this team.
Mailbag Q: If MN and the Celtics meet do you think they would put KAT on Tatum (like they did with KD) and lock up their secondary threats (JB, Porzingis, White, Holiday) or go with a more traditional coverage?
No one knows, they aren’t getting there.
You say you think cleveland wins one at home that means it at least has to go 6 if that happens.
Maybe Horford was draining three’s during warmups
Celtics win no video. Soon as they lose video lmao
Are you, Dane cook, and Ben affleck all cousins or something?? 😂😂
thought this was mostly fair. i think the cs vague hierarchy def affects their rhythm. esp in the face of all the noise abt tatum v other starts in the league. but just like at the open gym if you ball out n make great decisions that keep your teammates involved the team will naturally defer. tatum just needs to assert his will a little more,
at the end of the day tatum hasnt played well enough. doesnt rly matter why. without him playing to his potential this team cant be running on all cylinders
i saw a stat that 41/51 of playoff games this yr have been won by the team that shoots the 3 better. no team wins when they dont hit shots. so on some level thats an unfair criticism (esp when they are the best shooting team). i do think they can win without the 3 tho. they have to play better on defense and and the jays have to be better getting down hill and beating switches. both are possible but esp w tatum we're not seeing it rn.
cs def miss porzingus too. horford is still solid but he's aging. the guys behind him rly cant handle big playoff minutes either. its affecting cs pnr defense and kills their spacing when theyre forced to play kornet n tilman
People really have no idea that cavs have a talented roster. Yes Celtics are still heavily favored, but the cavs can pull off an upset.
I wouldnt say their defense is typically poor since Udoka.. didn't they have the 2nd best defensive rating during the season?
That's not what Jason said. He said they lack the consistent effort and tenacity that was there under Udoka which is correct. Without that their overall defensive ceiling is lower than it was in 2022.
Why didn't he give Smart any love in that part?
Star Trek>Star Wars
This Ass of a Brand of Basketball led to the best record in the league by alot
You're criticizing the highest-rated offense in NBA history. Dude lose the blind spot.
He’s right though. It’s high expected value but high variance.
@@noahcdmx1985 in a 7-game series you take high expected value over high variance, especially if the team goes 64-18 with that style of play
@@cmac392 that seems to be the best they're making, but the things to remember is games/shots/etc aren't independent trials. Teams run hot or cold.
The heat ran hot for 2.5 series last year.
@@noahcdmx1985 hot & cold shooting streaks are noise. In a large enough sample size the highest expected value is signal
@@cmac392That doesn't matter if the noise can lose you a series and reducing variance can increase your probability of advancing.
It's not a shock if you pay attention Celtics been underachieving forever
Saying they should've swept Cleveland is ridiculous. Cavs were the 2 seed before the injuries piled up. The talent disparity is overstated. Especially since mitchell is better than tatum in the post season. Tatum most overated player in the nba.
The celtics are like goldfish. They beat a team big, then completely let go of the rope. A week later and they do it all over again
No KP for Celtics but Cavs also don't have Allen.
Cavs also beat Celtics in Cavs homecourt this season.
Also they beat the Heat team without Butler so those Celtics fans that uses no KP as excuse are pathetic.
Celtic's win 11-minute vid.
Celtic's lose 31-minute bashing...
He has pulled this same parlor trick all season long. Haters goin to hate
The Celtics had zero defensive intensity. That was the story, but Timpf continues to use SSS to make the same tired point that Celtic's offense is faulty, even though it was the highest-rated offense in NBA history
"Cavs Win" headline... "Celtics lose" content. As a Cavs fan I have mixed feelings about this but I'm looking forward to the next one. Go CAVS
Facts, I sometimes agree with some of the things he says but no videos when they win and videos soon as they lose is corny.
@@onnaquest Timpf has a HUGE Laker & Western Conference bias. According to him, the Celtics are talented but inefficient on offense. Which doesn't match up with adv analytics
He also believes the Lakers are better than every other EC team which is a joke.
The Cavs strategy is repeatable
Offense: Party at the rim, Celtics have no rim protection
Defense Run them off the 3 point line funnel them to Mobley. They lucky Allen is out
THE BOSTON CELTICS ARE THE GRATEFUL DEAD! When it all clicks it is MAGIC. But the Dead had a lot of bad shows back in the day compared to the consistency of some other bands who played the same way every time 😂😂😂😂
Tatum is just a dull personality… lousy guy,,, complete opposite of Donovan…
Everyone acts like this series is over now. Celtics will win the next 2 in Cleveland.
So you are a psychic?
What are the power ball numbers
Its 1 game lol no championship teams go undefeated
Correct. The best is 16-1 when shaq and kobe rolled everyone but ai won a game off them in finals.
the Cavs now have home court advantage. that was easy. no porzingis means Boston is done
What? The heat beat them in game 2
If tatum keeps playing like 💩 then they might be, but Boston has a ton of talent, gonna be hard to get 3 more
Yeah, it's hard to say either way. I'm excited to see the remainder of the series though.
@@hokagegod8790the heat ain’t got Donovan Mitchell
Home court has never mattered to this team, they give away home court advantage all the time
" ...If Boston Played In The West They Would Put More Emphasis On Defense.. "
🗑️ Take. What Is This Fantasy Island?
Mitchell is underrated and the best player amongst the 2 teams.. by far..
I agree with you. Denver made a big mistake about him. Imagine Denver with him instead of MPJ it would be an unstoppable team and dynasty.
Boston should change the couch, they should have won last year and in the next 2 years title.
@@nikolacvejic7270Denver? Did they have a chance to draft him or something? Or are you confusing Denver with Utah?
@@schuylersavage276denver actually drafted both mitchell and gobert.
Called a man a cone.
Poor Hauser, relegated to drill cone lol
Yes this brand is basketball is real hard to watch... Nothing but threes and chooses to play defense here n there. Keep on playing with your food Celtics.
Tatum loves foul bating
This guys so upset Luka won he didnt even put a video out lmao, geek.
Did he pick the Mavs in 7, dork
Cavs are a tougher out than you'd expect as a cavs fan. By no means am I saying we take this series, but every game clearly has the chance to be extremely competitive.
I'd still say Celtics in 6 probably but if Allen comes back and does it well, he could really shift things on the glass.
The Celtics Are Overrated.
CAVS In 6
Tatum is not a championship level #1 option.
Lukewarm iq take
@@karlliebknecht2987the other top players in the league would’ve won a chip with this team by now. If Luka was in Tatum’s spot, You think Luka loses to Miami last year?
Can we just agree Tatum should be a #2 at best and stop expecting superstar play….
The Celtics took a month off at the end of the regular season and just thought they can snap back into it DURING the playoffs 😂 that’s why the Knicks are playing so good they never took a game off and guys kept their rhythm.
And the refs
Officiating aside the team is still playing elite basketball with passions and heart the Celtics haven’t shown yet when they are losing a game. Knicks have trailed double digits in the 4th quarter multiple times and still get back in the game.
Showtime 🪄 Era Born/LAker 🟣🟡 Fan Here which, makes Me a Celtics ☘️ Hater - 😂😂😂
Brown or Tatum need to be Traded and I hope/pray it’s The Mamba 🐍 Influenced Tatum so, We can get Him and We can win #18 first!!! He can wear #24 Purple Wrist Bands Every Game!!!
The LA 🟣🟡 Show!!!
I disagree they are much more talented than Cleveland. Garland, Mitchell, Mobley, and Allen are all really good, 3 of them all stars…..