What is Actually Ruining Ham Radio - Time for Common Sense and Common Courtesy!
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- Опубликовано: 20 окт 2024
- In today's video I am addressing a viewer comment to me about being bullied on the radio by other hams. This is a very blunt rant. I am not holding back! We need to really work on how we as stewards of ham radio act when on the air. Enjoy!
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It is not the class of license the Amateur holds. But the class of the Amateur holds the license.
VERY well said!!!!! Thank you for the comment and for watching. 73!!!
Nicely put!
..well said...7 3
Yes, well said indeed!
I'm an extra and have found there to be a mixture of personalities in ham radio, just like society in general. And like most any hobby, there are always going to be those hobbyists with WAY too much of their egos entangled in it. It seems clear to me that passing an exam for a given license class merely indicates you tested to the **minimum** knowledge level for that particular class and does not denote any sort of mastery. It simply grants you the permission and privileges to "explore and further the art" in a larger range of frequencies. I would hope that if you asked the hobby as a whole who they feel we need more of, either "Ambassadors and Elmers", or "egos with amplifiers", that the answer would resoundingly be the former.
unfortunately , the majority of the ambassadors and elmers, are sad hams.....
You nailed it! I think the negative experiences that hams run into are rapidly causing them to turn away from the standard sources for info and joining the online communities like this channel and other youtubers that discuss ham radio. We are always open and welcoming to everyone and truly want to help anyone with a question. I enjoy providing a resource that helps anyone interested in ham radio. Sign me up for Ambassador and Elmer! Thank you for the comment and for watching. 73!!!
I think we outnumber them. If not, we need to step up until we do. Thank you for the comment and for watching. 73!!!
I'm a tech and for the most part not very active in the hobby. I've been involved in this hobby for only a few years so i'm definitely not what one would consider an oldtimer. I totally agree with HRNT's rant and agree that it's frustrating for new comers. I would however like to pose an alternate view on this ongoing battle between oldtimers and newbies. There may be Oldtimers that have been in this hobby for decades freely using a specific frequency to reach and chat among themselves (other oldtimers) with little to no interruption, although no one owns a frequency it can be frustrating for these folks to suddenly get so much noise/chatter/interruption on their freq of choice from newbies that they may feel their right-to-use are also being trampled. Just sayin...
I'm an extra and Wholeheartedly AGREE with you! HF in Oregon is a CESSPOOL of Egos with Amplifiers!
I have personally elmered FOUR people into the Hobby.
I believe the first 2 ham radio ops in the world argues. Then it went on. I had something similar happen to me first time on HF. Threatened to report me to the FCC. I told them to go ahead. I'm in Canada and the FCC has no jurisdiction! I just moved on. At the time there were a few that POLICED the local club repeater. They would chase any one with a call they did not recognize off. They would whistle, scream all kinds of stuff. Once again I just got my call. I went to the next club meeting, stood up at new business and ask outright what did I do wrong. When the exec said I did nothing wrong and no one has the right to chase anyone from the repeater. So I said well VE1??? and VE1??? said I should not be there. I knew who it was immediately! Just by the look an their faces. So I turned to them, and said " Well gentlemen it looks like you owe my an apology!" They turned 50 shades of red got up and left. Never heard them on the club repeater again! I love being the bearer of Karma!!!!'
It's interesting to watch the change in personality of those type of people when they're confronted face to face. It's just the radio equivalent of a Reddit troll. Once anonymity it removed, they buckle.
Hey Steven!! THAT is a fantastic story!! Good for you standing up and saying something. I think this persists because too many fold and fall back instead of tackling it head on and correcting that behavior. If we give in, they win and we may lose good operators. I like your view on it being karma! Draw a line in the sand! Thank you for the comment and for watching. 73!!!
@wAterHead102: You are exactly right! Just like the web has its keyboard commandos, ham radio has something similar until you see them face to face, then they run like the rats they are. Thank you for the comment and for watching. 73!!!
A new ham radio program - JOTA (Jerks on the Air). There would be a lot of award winners for sure!
Good rant Scott, some of us all feel it. Glad more are saying it.
I just felt that it needed to be addressed and harshly. Thank you for watching and for the comment. 73!!
1-Old People
2-Rule Nazis
3-Drunks
I am sure that all three are part of that issue...Thanks for watching and for the comment. 73!!
It should be fun. For someone who is new, an experienced ham should let them know in a nice ham way of what a new ham could do better. That is how a new ham learns. Those folks who want to rule the ham bands will definitely ruin it for ham operators. Unfortunately, you just have to move away from the rude ham operators. Thank you for sharing.
I am always glad to help. I agree that we should be encouraging and help other to correct in a way that they learn, not by bullying. Thank you for the comment and for watching. 73!!!
I primarily operate portable, doing POTA and sometimes SOTA. I've had a few people nicely ask me to QSY because there's a Net on that frequency or right nearby. When they're polite about it, I'm always happy to hand it over. I just wish that was the case more often.
See, that is a fair exchange and request. Common courtesy yields a better outcome. I admit, I don't know every frequency that has a net on a particular day and time, but if I happen upon one, I will gladly move over a few kHz. Thank you for the comment and for watching. 73!!!
I had one experience with being on a frequency and was asked to move for a net. I had only made a few QSO's and the gentleman that asked was very nice. He explained the net met on the frequency at that time of day and then invited me to check in which I did. It was a very positive experience for me as a new ham. Recently I made my first AM contact and I had heard prior that the AM guys can be very particular. Well the first station I contacted was very nice and welcoming especially when I explained that it was my first AM contact and then another station piped up and gave me a second AM contact. Another positive experience. By and large the hams out there are great people. Just ignore those bad apples.
That is a fantastic story! There are a lot more good people in ham radio than the bad. Keep up the good work! Thanks for the comment and for watching. 73!!
I am not a HAM operator; however, I have been a SW radio enthusiast for over 50 years and frequently listen to HAM operators while scanning my favorite shortwave channels. I am often surprised how some of the more experienced HAM operators treat the newcomers to the hobby. I often thought of getting my HAM operators license but I guess I enjoy listening in much more that talking. Often, when I'm listening in to HAM operator discussions, I'm surprised and completely turned off by some of the Gatekeeper and KNOW IT ALL attitudes of some the operators. No need to tear someone apart just because they made a mistake. Just takes a few to give the hobby a bad name. Fortunately, most people are very friendly and seem to be respectful of those getting into the hobby for the first time.
Those are definitely bad situations, but as you said, that is rare and the majority is pleasant and helpful to one another. If someone makes a mistake a a new operator there are better ways to help them correct said mistake rather than berate them on the air. Thank you for watching and for the comment. 73!
I’ve experienced this myself particularly on a specific repeater in my area
Tune into 7.200 on 40m and you can hear the worst of the worst. It's a frequency that has become popular with the idiots and morons and unlicensed hams...or those unwilling to reveal their call-signs for obvious reasons.
They are not “giving the hobby a bad name”, they are giving THEMSELVES a bad name!
I'm a fairly new ham and guess I've been fortunate as I have never had any issues like this. Everyone I've dealt with have been friendly and helpful. Hope it stays this way.
It should. Just be aware when working on 80m voice. Thats where I have found most of the bad hams operate. Ive come across more good ones than bad ones though
That is a good thing. 99% of the time you will not have an issue. The majority of the ham community is helpful and generous. Thank you for the comment and for watching. 73!!!
After a few years, I can say that I rarely hear meanness on the bands. On that rare occasion, I simply shrug and move on. To be honest, my irritant is the individual who seems to be talking to himself about technical aspects of his gear for two hours with his buddy saying few words. Again, I simply move on. Have fun with what you've got and don't worry about someone's bad behavior you don't control. de w0vet
So what are you going to do when you do encounter the jerks?---- and you WILL eventually encounter the jerks. It is more irritating when someone defends those type because SOMEHOW, they have not encountered them. Are you going to yield to them and move off of "their frequency" or are you going to stand up to them? Most of them will continue to harass you if you stand up to them (even to the point of following you through the band and deliberately causing interference).
I got my license last year. Got my HT this week. Made my first contact tonight. Nice people. Got invited to a net meeting on Friday at 8. Great first interaction. I had a lot of fear keying the mike up for the first time. But now...I'm good :)
That is awesome! Mic fright is a real thing and I am, glad you were able to conquer it. Even better that you made a contact and can now interact with your local ham community. That is how it starts and how it should be. Learn as much as you can and always be experimenting. I wish you the best of luck! Thanks for watching and for the comment. 73!!
Good stuff, as always! Fortunately, I haven't run into anyone like this one the air....Yet.
Hope you and your family had a great Christmas and New Years!
Hey! Thank you very much! We had a great Christmas! Glad you have had good experiences on the radio! Hope that persists! Thank you for the comment and for watching. 73!!!
I understand a lot of frustration out there. Several months ago I purchased a study guide and started searching out RUclips videos and started listening to 40m and 80m SWL.
I have been completely discouraged:
1st I do not like the idea of call sign, name and address posted online.
2nd priests the preach "ye must be licensed", then post videos on how to illegally modify equipment.
3rd are the geriatric "John Carter" types that think they will lead the resistance against tyrannical government ( their equipment would be confiscated 1st in this hypothetical, the gov has their number).
Maybe I've posted this on one of your videos before, if so, sorry.
I am totally disillusioned by the whole thing.
I'm still listening, maybe I'll change my mind..... I'm retired and have always been interested in the hobby.
Hi Ogie, I think that if you give it a chance, you will really enjoy this hobby. Please don't be discouraged. The situation I was referring to is not a normal everyday thing. 99% of the time you will have a great operation and play radio and enjoy yourself. There will be bad apples in any activity involving more than ten people. As for your concerns, you can get a PO BOX and have that as your address, instead of your home address, however I have not had any issues with that to date. Those who post how to do illegal stuff with a radio....shouldn't! You will always have a few nuts that think the sky is falling and that is the world as they see it, I ignore that and move one...too much in radio to do for me to focus on paranoid folks. I would say at the least study and get your Technician license. Find a local club or make a ham radio friend locally and learn more and see if there is a niche within ham radio that is irresistible to you and go for it. I really think you will find a world of enjoyment in radio that will far surpass your concerns. I wish you the best of luck! Thanks for watching and for the comment! 73!
You are to the point and on point. I can relate to your entire video. When I first started this hobby, I would have some days and say to my wife, I found some arrogant jerks. But then I would say to her Ham Radio is just a microcosm of society and learned to make them go away with the turn of the VFO knob. But…..my experience on HF has varied from good to really good and then amazing. I have a Yaesu 991a and alternate between various wire configurations and small verticals. I live in an HOA so you come up with the very best you can in limited space. In one your videos, you mentioned a POTA QSO you had from North Pole, AK. If I’m correct it’s WL7X. I’ve had 3 QSOs with him myself. It was exciting for me because I had been to North Pole many times during my military career. Then today, another “coast to coast” POTA QSO from my hometown of Venice, FL to San Francisco, CA! Sorry to be so long winded but I wanted to reenforce the fun factor you had mentioned. We do have a great community and you represent it well. 73 Tom, KQ4DCT
Hi Tom!!! Thank you so much for sharing that story!!! You are a prime example of someone who interacts with the community and shares ideas and knowledge! Love it!!! You were correct, it was WL7X I spoke with on my POTA adventure. LOL, he may be the only ham operator in North Pole, AK....lucky him! Living in an HOA does pose its issues and definitely makes you a MacGuyver on the spot to find ways to hide antennas and still operate enjoyably. The true HamFam will always help and advise and never discourage others. That is what I love about this hobby. Thank you for the comment and for watching. 73!!!
I am subscribed and I enjoy your channel very much. Whether it's an MC club or radio club there are always people that want to disrupt the natural order of things. I appreciate what you have to share and agree.
Thanks for that! You are right, there will always be bad apples in any function. Thanks for watching and for the comment! 73!
Your exactly right. I have had a ticket for 54 years. And we learned the principles of getting along years ago. Hams did not act like that. But they have brought the CB MENTALITY OVER INTO AMATEUR RADIO.
I think in any group setting of 10 or more people, you will always have the human factor and a prick in the mix. Overall, the ham community is one of the most helpful and generous I have ever seen. They far outweigh the idiots that try and ruin it. Thank for the comment and for watching. 73!!
Bullshit. Never heard of W2OY? Profanity, abuse, claiming it was his frequency, not letting others talk, running illegal power, insisting of phonetics only. There are tapes of this lawless behavior online. And this was in the 1960s. Like him there were dozens more. Others bragging about running 5,000 watts trying to bypass the FCC input power and even taking the FCC to court. You sir are a hypocrite for not acknowledging what pigs your ilk were in the 60's and 70's.
Very well stated Scott. A little common sense and kindness go a long way. I have run into this in several Facebook groups when posing a question about something I would like some information about from hams that have used that equipment. The responses were very inappropriate, and I've said adios to several of those groups.
I think that is a fantastic way of dealing with it. The true ham fam will never discourage or deny you information or make you feel like an idiot for asking a question and that is the way it should be. Thank you for the comment and for watching. 73!!!
Yup, I'll read QRZ but I'll never ask a question there again. I did once, got piled on, talked down to, told that what I asked was a joke, told I wouldn't be able to/allowed to do things I didnt even ask, etc.
Yeah the QRZombies are a waste of time. You have a much better community here on my channel or on Discord with Ham Radio Crash Course or Ham Radio 2.0. Thank you for the comment and for watching. 73!!!
Qrz has some toxic members. Ive had some flak on there. They assume a lot, and in my case we're wrong. No one had the answers to my problem. Some nice gentlemen however helped me arrive at the cause and understand it. But some of the more sad hams just jumped right on that high horse.
Grumpy old men.....
Enough said
Yep! Pretty much! Thanks for watching and for the comment. 73!
Thank You Scott for another great video. Once again you let em have it with both barrels. As normal you always have a great knack for making your videos both highly interesting as well as very enjoyable to view, listen to and learn from. Even in this one you had me laughing my tail off with what you said and the way you did it. Keep up the great work
Thank you so much! I am glad my videos bring you information, value and entertainment. That is my goal! Glad to have you on the channel! Thanks for the comment and for watching. 73!
Remember, what self policing means, "Self" not others .
BINGO!!!! Nailed it! Thanks for the comment and for watching. 73!
Sadly, jerks collect in groups.
Yes they do, but we outnumber them! Thanks for the comment and for watching. 73!
Well said, Scott! No need to engage with those Jack Wagons. There are those types of people everywhere we go, they don’t only exist on CB or Facebook or Twitter, they also show up on Amateur Radio. The bottom line is Respect that goes a long way. I have moved for a net in the past and it wasn’t a problem, they asked politely, and I moved once I know they met on that frequency. If they were not polite there might have been a different result. Thanks for the video as always, Scott!
Hey Brent! Glad you enjoyed the video. You are right, a little courtesy goes a long way. We have to step up and be bigger than the idiots that try to discourage us. Thank you for your continued support of the channel and for watching! 73!
Hi Scott,we've exactly the same problem here in thr U.K with full license holderswho have been around on the radio for 50+ years looking down their noses at newly assigned foundation license holders(general license I think you call them your side of the pond) its madness it really is, you'd be amazed to see and hear it in action! If you've not taken your amateur radio license pre 1980 and done the required morse test and whatnot, some of these operators this side of the water see you as nothing more than undeserving of your license as it's aquired off the back of a cornflake packet these days according to them.... admittedly it's far easier to aquire now a license, but surely having new ops onboard can only be a good thing given that time and technology have moved on since way back when. 👍🏻 '73's
I agree 110%! Having new operators is an asset to the hobby. Those who choose to look down on others just because Morse is no longer a requirement does NOT negate or illegitimize that persons efforts to become a licensed ham. Thanks for watching and for the comment. 73!
Scott…. Come on man, tell us what you really think!!! LOL 😉 Thankfully you didn’t blow a vein! It’s sad that there are those who think they “own” bands. Sad. It’s true, they are why people quit the hobby!
Keep up the good work!!!
You got that right! I don't like giving scumbags free press, however, I KNOW there are new hams out there or those who have never dealt with a situation like this and they were the focus of this video to let them know that this is not normal and this is not OK. I don't want to lose ham operators due to a few turds who think they run the hobby. WE outnumber them! WE surround them! NOT the other way around and we need to put our line in the sand and state clearly that this behavior will not be tolerated. Thank you for the comment and for watching. 73!!!
@@HR4NT I was turned off of Ham Radio by similar people when I was a teen. Always knew about Hams, but with how I was treated (old & grumpy, have no time for you), I lost interest. Didn’t want to be “one of those guys”. Thankfully many many years later, I’ve met some great hams & am part of a good club! Thankfully I learned first hand, they all aren’t bad. But like us truckers as well… we don’t have the best reputation due to some bad apples.
No Morse code requirement. That used to keep out the undisciplined. Also lack of DIY.
Not sure I agree with that. I originally had no intention of learning Morse code and I am very disciplined and LOVE DIY stuff. My situation does not represent everyone, but I think many out there want to be involved, but a few are salty and think they are ham radio gods or something. There will be good and bad in any activity involving more than 10 people. Thanks for watching and for the comment! 73!
I've been a ham for 15 years. I once had a problem with some jerks who called me names and threatened me. However, almost all of my experiences have been overwhelmingly good and positive, especially in the world of CW. CW operators have bent over backwards to welcome me and help me learn and I can't say enough good things about them. The bad actors in ham radio get way too much attention and the good ones not enough. I've found ham radio to be full of decent and kind people and I feel honored to be part of our great hobby.
I have had the same experience. The majority of hams are absolutely awesome and helpful. I have yet to get on CW and make a contact, but it is in the works. It is an honor to be in the hobby with someone like you!
In the area where l live some old man has been controlling the two highest profile ham repeaters since the 60's. His callsign is on both of the repeaters and they're dead 95% of the time. He won't allow anything digital, it all has to be analog FM so that he can control it. That's where we stand here. Locally, the hobby is DEAD.
That situation is sad when you have someone who does that and does not contribute to the local hams. My suggestion is simplex operations on VHF/UHF or just bypass the BS entirely and just go straight to HF. Sorry to hear that situation is happening. Thanks for watching and for the comment! 73!
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I'm sure that he doesn't realize the amount of damage that he has done. And if you tried to tell him it would just make him angry. ☹️
Those grumpy old @$$hats really rub my rhubarb, too. They make me so mad. ARGH! I've always lived by "Treat others how you would want to be treated." If you can't do that, then prepare for karma... Because it's coming for you.
Best thing to do is to ignore them... Move elsewhere. But never let them discourage you from getting on the air. 73!
I agree 110%!!! Move up or down the frequency if you choose, but if they follow you and continue to harass...draw a line in the sand and hand them their a$$!!! We have to stand up to these types or they will continue their harassment at the expense of other hams or worse yet a new ham!! Thank you for the comment and for watching. 73!!!
Where I live here in Hawaii it's amazing how many QSOs I hear on the same frequency without hearing each other, all over the country. I've never heard a conflict as you describe but that's not to say it doesn't happen.
I have had a run in with a couple SOB's that like to moan into their mic when I am trying to do POTA, but I have not run into someone like this viewer described. The weirdo's are everywhere...LOL Thanks for watching and for the comment! 73!
Your 110% right! I am, so happy that I have made nothing, but good contacts with helpful HAMs. And I have reciprocated the same behavior. Good HAMs for the WIN!
Spot on! Keep up the good work! Thank you for the comment and for watching. 73!!!
@@HR4NT Your Welcome 🤠
Great info here 👍 Courtesy should be a two-lane country road. RUGER
I agree 110%!! Thank you for the comment and for watching. 73!!!
I haven't been active since the late 90s early 2000s, but I remember this, especially on 80meters. What I think is ruining ham radio though is just lack of activity. I live in a medium size city, and when I left I could get on many 2 meter repeaters any time of day and chew the fat. Not anymore. Maybe I can find a soul or two around drive time, but not any other time, especially over night . HF wasn't any different. I rented a remote station on several occasions over a couple weeks and never could raise anyone late at night on the low bands, which they used to jump 24/7 to where there wasn't anywhere to call CQ. What happened? I don't know, but what good is ham radio if no one wants to talk? I tried dmr. Worldwide was busy, but no rag chewing. Anyplace I felt a rag chew was welcome was a ghost town.
I think a lot has changed since that time. HF is on fire right now especially with the new solar cycle and 10 meters opening up. Any given day there are a ton of rag chewers on 10-40 and I am sure that is similar on 80 although I never tune to 80. There seems to be a renewed interest in radio now and even on 2 meters depending on your area. I know the repeater here is used everyday along with the 5+ nets we have every week. I think you may find more activity on HF now if you give it a shot. Thanks for the comment and for watching. 73!
That guy is telling the truth there. I havent run into it on 40m as much as I have in the general voice portion on 80m
80m seems like a lot of antenna to have to put up!
I have not had many issues on 40 minus the bozos that like to interrupt your POTA operations. I have heard many stories about 80 meters although I have yet to tune in and make contacts. Thank you for the comment and for watching. 73!!!
LOL...I am sure it can be depending on the type antenna you want to use. Thank you for the comment and for watching. 73!!!
Amps, no one mentioned Amplifiers! They run full power (plus) on a beam all the time. Sounds like he chicken band most days with the overpowered rag chewers.
You do have a point, but we do have privilege's depending on our license to use a max power output to operate. That being said, we are also suppose to use the minimum amount of power to accomplish out task, so constantly being on 1500 watts is a bit ridiculous. I am on a max of 100 watts and for the most part I have been pretty happy with that. Thanks for watching and for the comment! 73!
Ha ha Scott. That was a bit of a rant. A bit passionate about that issue, eh.
I’m a very new guy still learning on VHF and UHF. Other than listening, I haven’t tried HF yet. -KI5YUU
Hey TurboNorm!!! This video was targeted to hams like you. I don't want new hams having a bad experience and leaving because of a few rotten apples. This is not normal behavior in ham radio and as hams we need to stand up to it and put a stop to it. Glad you enjoyed the video. I hope it helped! Thank you for the comment and for watching. 73!!!
Many 80 meter groups do gather on the same freq's every night. Most times, If they asked you to move nicely you would. Problem is they are not nice about it. If someone gives me crap on the air, I won't shy away from an asshole. I would have no issue at all if they said, " hey, we usually meet here every night, do you mind shifting up?" When they get all pissy, its game on.
YUP!!!! Well said. If you are courteous, then I will return it in kind. If you are a prick....lock and load...you're going down! LOL Thanks for the comment and for watching. 73!
I want to learn about ham radio, for a long time now. Whats a good place to start learning? Whats a good hand held equipment to start listening? Is there such a thing? Thanks fellas
I haven't taken my Technician test yet but I've found "Pass Your Amateur Radio Test The Easy Way" by Craig "Buck" K4IA to be pretty helpful. Somewhere I have a more expansive ring bound volume put out by the AARL I think.
There's tons of resources out there. HAM seems overwhelming because there are so many directions one can go with it, really high level geeky tech aspects to it, but really I think you just start basic and go as simple or fancy as you want. The license exam seems to have some basic electronic theory, but really most of it is about where you can operate and how. I've been sort of half ass studying it on and off but this year I intend to get it done. I haven't researched handhelds too much because I intend to start with a base dual band, but Baofeng seems to be the entry level a lot of people use.
Thanks buddy, I will follow up on the leads you gave me.
What kenofken said is spot on. You can also go to my website: hamradiofornontechies.com and I have everything there for a new ham to help you study and pass your exam(s) for FREE. I have book suggestions based upon how you learn and so on. If you have questions, feel free to contact me and I will help however I can! Thank you for the comment and for watching. 73!!!
Spot on!@ Took the words out of my mouth...LOL Thank you for the comment and for watching. 73!!!
Man seriously! Its a shame that some people seem to act like theyre in some kind of high horse, but I have also noticed that for every bad apple, I will find a hundred good ones.
As part of our self-regulating standards, we should start giving thumbs up and thumbs down to people as we log contacts with them, and have them eventually fall on a naughty list 😂
You are spot on!! WE outnumber them, NOT the other way around! I like your idea! Thanks for watching and for the comment! 73!
Glad to see the new video.
I am glad you enjoyed it! Thank you for the comment and for watching. 73!!!
I’m and old fart ham, licensed in 1969. There have always been some rude hams, just like people in the rest of society. What’s always been said is spin the big knob.
I think that is the best idea! Thanks for watching and for the comment! 73!
I'm having trouble finding people to talk to in the first place, let alone finding jerks to talk to. I think organized nets are cool, but I really want to find others to talk to just "willy nilly". I'm working on my general right now, hoping to change that.
That will happen I promise! Once you pass your General, go on the 20 meter band and start calling CQ. Someone will pick up your signal and that could spark a great conversation. I wish you the best of luck on passing your General!!! Thanks for the comment and for watching. 73!
I also enjoy just talking with people, "ragchewing". Good luck on your General and maybe we'll chat on the air sometime! : )
Bullies were supposed to outgrow bullying when they outgrew grade school. I guess some of these children need to go back to grade school, perhaps all the way back to kinder garden...
I agree the sad hams need to get a life. Thanks for watching and for the comment! 73!
Operated from ZD8 in 2018, and DEFINITELY heard the best and worse of our hobby! Especially from central America! No regards for anyone else!! Feel for FT8ww and TN8K guy's at the present time January 23... let alone what the 3Y0J guy's are going to have to deal with! Who are currently on the way down south! Best of luck guy's.
Oh and PS...FT8 ( mode) don't get me started on that! Andy,UK...
LOL...thanks for sharing that! Thanks for watching and for the comment! 73!
@ojizarco zurdo Morning!!!
I am not an amateur but have been interested in the hobby for years. I have many other interests but have always listened to the amateur radio bands for many many years. Over 40. Being such I have heard much shenanigans from time to time on amateur bands. Some being as bad as what one might expect on the CB band. What I have noticed from being an outside observer is there are bully's out there. There always will be I suppose. These bully's are emboldened by other non bully hams. Those non bully hams are just as bad as the bully hams. They are the hams who interact normally with these bully's on a daily basis but become silent when the bullying starts. They are just as bad. Homers. What they should do is reprimand, calm down, or stop any association with known bully's. A bully needs an audience. Don't give him that kind of attention.
I agree 110%! Don't give them any glory if you can avoid it. I was hesitant to do this video because I do not want to give air time to turds. However, we need to address this and as good hams, help put a stop to it. We need a line in a sand and stand firmly at that line! Thanks for watching and for the comment! 73!
Called cq on 40m last night (admittedly QRP) …. Could hear myself on an online SDR 1400 km away…. Tried 20 mins no response? Went to CW worked NZ. Don’t know about the US … but here in OZ we spectrum to burn!!! Most of the time all you hear is crickets chirping? The “nets” is all that happens….. and FT8 and CW. I say “bring back the art of the random CQ and rag chew!!” ….Ignore the nasties and call CQ elsewhere.
Well said!!! The bottom line is to enjoy radio. If you run into a turd, ignore them and continue to have fun with radio. Thanks for the comment and for watching. 73!
The unfriendly attitude of Ham operators. It's an exclusive club. They think they're better than the newcomers and have weaponized the FCC rules to drive off new people, using mean comments.
Nobody really "thinks they own the band." They just want it, anyway.
Where the hobby was once based on learning and achievement, now it's one-upmanship. Show them your UV5R, just to get back at them for being horrible. They hate that. After all, they paid six times the amount for pretty-much the same radio with a different name stuck on it. 🙂
I have to agree that is probably a good part of it. It's still wrong in my eyes and we should do what we can to discourage that behavior and not tolerate it in ham radio. Thank you for watching and for the comment. 73!
People can spend a great deal of money on radio, towers, beams etc. but is that what's it about? Not to me. Keep it simple.
I get a lot of fun and sense of achievement on 5.262 MHz c.w. I bought a 1944 Wireless 19 Set, had to wind two new coils, re-wiring wrong wiring, BFO was disconnected, put new R's and C's in the audio filter and more, so I had a lot of work to do. I made it xtal on tx for stability. Most of my contacts are now using this old radio at QRP 2 Watts out. QRP to QRP is great.
G4GHB.
Well put sir! Well put!
Thanks for watching and for the comment! 73!
That was a great video Sir, I Only wish that they listen. I want to get my ham lic but at this time just my opinion WHEN YOU ARE ON AIR AND YOU TELL ANOTHER HAM LIC HOLDER THAT YOU HAVE NOT PAID YOUR MEMBER FEE ON AIR SO EVERYONE CAN HEAR SAID CONVERSATION IS VERY UNPROFESSIONAL AND RUDE.. THIS IS WHY I AM HESITANT
There could be many reasons for that circumstance. First, that information is a matter of public record. You have to identify yourself on air with your call sign. That call sign is published along with license grant and expiration dates, and more. I ran across one HAM with an expired license, he was in his 90s and I could well imagine that renewing might not be a priority. He'd been a ham for decades, nobody would call him on that. I heard another conversation where one operator commented about the expired license and the other thanked him because he had forgotten about it. People are all different. If you are interested, just get your ticket and get on the air. You will certainly find some HAMS that you don't want to interact with, just move on. There are far more (in my experience so far) that are just nice helpful folks a joy to have a QSO with.
de AG8D
From that viewer question to me, I am limited on the whole story. I would NOT let this incident or similar incident s discourage you from getting into ham radio and enjoying the hobby. It is a rare instance where you will run into morons like this. 99% of the time you will have a lot of fun, meet new hams across the world and learn new skills. It is VERY worth it to get your license and start to enjoy ham radio. I hope this helps. Thanks for watching and for the comment! 73!
The 7.030 MHz frequency is a gentleman's agreement that it is for QRP stations but often at night it is sometimes used by high power stations for DX and we have no chance. I have xtal only tx equipment on that frequency specifically for other QRP contacts and we know where to find each other, so I can't move.
My QRP to QRP contacts are far more impressive than their high power stuff even if I don't do the long distances like they do. For this reason and QRM I use 5.262 MHz more, and my old Wireless 19 Set converted to xtal on tx has a wide rx so it's not as crowded as 7.030 where i might hear a QSO either side.
Extra skills says it all, too many now are just radio operators. My interest is making or repairing stuff. I built h/b tx/rx at 5 Watt all hf ssb and cw, one valve xtal cw tx, resistive SWR meter, repaired TW Topbander, 13.6 Volt and 250 Volt power supplies and a repaired Racal RA17L. I don't buy aerials, I make them, 4 ele 2m collinear, hf dipoles and 60m band inverted vee.
G4GHB.
Thank you very much for sharing that Bill! I too tend to love building things that are ham radio related and seeing how they work and so on. I have a high respect for QRP as I do that sometimes myself. It is a bit more difficult to operate, but rewarding when you make a contact. Thanks for watching and for the comment. 73!!
@@HR4NT Only 5 Watts or less for 30 or so years.
G4GHB.
The 'sissy blowholes' you mention at the beginning have been in ham radio forever. We had them when I started back in the mid-80's. It's always been my personal policy to only associate with like minded hams that want to have fun.
I think that is a fantastic policy! Thank you for the comment and for watching. 73!!!
The passion in your presentation is awesome. Sad hams exist for whatever reason but its 99% of the reason I listen only.
For 50 years the term was SOUR hams. Sad ham don't make sense unless you're a Randy that has no ham experience.
@@extreme978 well I'm only 12 months in but thanks for the encouragement.........
Thank you. It just needed to be addressed. My passion takes over sometimes, but I wanted to get that point across for any new ham out there that runs into people like this and know that it is NOT OK to treat others that way. Thanks for the comment and for watching. 73!
Enjoy ham radio YOUR way. You are the one that invested in ham radio with your time, studying and of course, equipment, so do what makes you fell good and learn as much as you can every day. You will get out of ham radio what you put in. Thanks for the comment and for watching. 73!
I started out to get my license.. too clannish of a group. Not responsive to noobs. Gave up but, have a ham for emergencies. Nouf said.
I think you ran into bad apples within the community. The community as a whole is not like that and would have offered to help and encourage you to excel in radio. I think if you gave it another chance and found the right community, you would feel very different. Best of luck in whatever you decide. Thanks for the comment and for watching. 73!
That's what I'm seeing as well. I'm studying but not even sure I'll test now. It's a real shame.
I worried a little when I passed my Foundation licence...incase I did or said anything wrong... now I'm all over the bands ..when available and even now on FT8... Good to be friendly
.73s all M7CYC
I agree 100%! Thanks for watching and for the comment! 73!
Brother, you hid the nail on the head. i was talking with my club president about this. the "elmers"(SAD HAMS) are discouraging new hams from getting on the RF by touting themselves as "experts". You are one of the reasons why i tested for my Tech. Thank-you my friend. And to all the new techs. out there. DONT let the SAD HAMS get you discouraged. get on the air waves!! the elmers are not encouraging new people.
Thank you for your kind words. This is an issue that needed to be addressed harshly to make the point. I want new hams such as yourself to see this and have hope and know that this is NOT what ham radio is about. Yeah, I rant and yell, but it is just a disservice to the hobby if we allow this type of behavior to persist. Thank you for the comment and for watching. I am so happy that my videos helped you become a ham operator!!!! 73!
oh im subbed. im not even a ham, that being said, ive always advocated for those who just want to finish off their log for thebday.
Glad to have you on the channel. Hope I can inspire you to get your license and join the ham community. Thanks for the comment and for watching. 73!
A better antenna gave me many more choices to find hams I enjoy listening to.
LOL...fantastic! Always good to have an awesome antenna. Thanks for watching and for the comment! 73!
A: Sad hams.
Exactly. Thank you for watching and for the comment. 73!
EVERY ONE NEEDS TO BE NICE AND GET ALONG..IF NOT FIND SOMETHING ELSE TO DO. HELP THOSE WHO NEED IT...ENJOY THE HOBBY!! 😁😁
Agree 100%!!! Thanks for the comment an for watching. 73!
Stay calm and radio on ….
LOL...thank you! It had to be addressed. Thank you for the comment and for watching. 73!!!
Radio ON!!
Courtesy is a two way street, but way too often it's the polite ham that gives in to the bully. I've never had the inconvenience of a bully, but I think if I was chatting someone up and an old geezer cut in to tell me they were about to have a net, honestly, he wouldn't even have to say please. I would move out of courtesy. If he wanted to be a jackwagon about it, though, I would ask him why he didn't just use a backup or secondary frequency. And then eventually, I would remove myself from the frequency, for no other reason than it makes sense that at least one of us should abide by our "gentleman's agreement". It would take quite a bit of abuse for me to stand my ground on a freq. And I promise you I would be recording.
Hi Norrin, I think that is a noble and mature way to deal with this situation as well! Moving over a few kHz is not an issue, but if the perps follow you simply to harass, then it gets personal. Thank you for the comment and for watching. 73!!!
The number 1 thing ruining ham radio is the high price of starting level HF transceivers. New hams - especially young people - cannot afford $1,000 for a first rig. None of the manufacturers make rigs designed for new, young hams. Only used rigs are close to the price range of someone starting out.
In terms of purchasing power, the cost of rigs has remained about the same I suspect. I couldn't find any historical prices of rigs but an Icom 7300 runs around $1200 today. That's about the equivalent $218 in 1975.
Ham Radio is one of those activities that there is an expected expense depending upon what you want to do. There are radios that are sub $1000 like the G90 or the FT-891 that are under $800. The ham community is pretty good about sharing and letting new folks use a radio to operate at an event or maybe an Elmer may have one that someone could use until they have the ability to get one of their own. The technology that goes into the radios today far surpasses that of the old days and the prices, for the most part I think are "fair". They are not great, but I think they are fair. This might be a good show to do showing the selection of affordable radios. I see kids walking around with $1200 smart phones...so....Anyway, thank you for the comment and the observation! 73!
Very well said Scott, good job.
Thanks for listening. It just needed to be said! Thank you for the comment and for watching. 73!!!
"SOME PEOPLE!"
Right? Thanks for watching and for the comment. 73!
Amateur radio is a wasteland of hateful old men. the 7.200 and 14.313 mentality/attitude is so widespread and common, that its just not even worth keying up.
I don't think that is the case. Do we have bad apples...yes, however the good operators vastly outnumber the bad by a lot. We need to stand our ground, draw a line in the sand and stand together and let these sad hams know that this type of behavior towards other hams is not going to be tolerated and to knock it off. Don't get discouraged by their idiocy to where you no longer enjoy keying up. You made the effort to get licensed and you should enjoy it. Thank you for the comment and for watching. 73!!!
I disagree. Yes 7.200 can be a sewer. For the most part, those fools stay there though.
@@HR4NT I've got several thousands of dollars of gear I haven't switched on in over a year. Maybe I'll give it another shot
The folks you talk about are Sad Hams.
Yes they are! Thanks for the comment and for watching. 73!
How do I find out if i.m in the footprint of a repeater.? I was told that if i.m not then I won't be able to talk with others on my President Randy 2. I.m new to radio. Thanks!
Ji Jeffery, first find out what frequency the repeater is on. Check and see if there is a PL Tone. Repeaters have to identify themselves just like we do, every 10 minutes. I would start by listening to see if you hear the repeater ID. If so, then call out for a signal check and see if another ham in the area picks up. If you don't hear anything, you may be out of range. I hope this helped a bit. Thanks for the comment and for watching. 73!
@@HR4NT I don't have the Randy yet..i.m still learning as much as I can before ordering it.. Or should I go ahead and order the Randy and learn as I go? Thanks so much for your help.📻🎙
@@torgomax I am not familiar with that radio but if you're getting into ham radio I'd say try to get a decent one without spending too much depending upon your budget and try and see if you can pick up the repeaters in your area and see if they're actually active. I hope this helps. 73.
@@HR4NT Not looking to get into Ham.. just needed your advice on the Randy. I,'ll probably get the radio anyway. I should be able to get signal here in Florida...flat land everywhere! Thanks again📻👍
I'm a Extra class that is now learning CW and I worry that a novice will beat me up on the bands...😕
LOL...just stay focused and practice daily and you will do just fine. We all have to start somewhere. I pretty much forgot everything except my call sign LOL. Thanks for the comment and for watching. 73!
Well said that man!! 73 Jim M7BXT
I am glad you enjoyed it. Thank you for the comment and for watching. 73!!!
Don’t like what you hear? Spin the dial…. Easy peezy….
Agree, but sometimes they like to follow you and chase you off again...where do you draw the line? Thanks for the comment and for watching. 73!
I agree however i did call out foul language one time because i thought what kind influence that would be for youth.
Yeah we need to keep it clean as much as possible, but sometimes things slip. Gentlemen's agreements should take precedent. Thanks for watching and for the comment. 73!
@@HR4NT ya I totally agree with that
Bullying is what cause the downfall of CB and making it easier to gat a Ham License opened a door to that exact bullying. Owning the CB channels was and is a thing on 11 meters so that gets carried over here.
That may be part of it, but it has been noted that these sad hams are some of the older crowd that were probably licensed decades ago and are just being salty now. Thanks for watching and for the comment! 73!
Well, believe it or not, it also happens with the CW crowd. I was operating a special events station for the Straight-key Century Club's Straight Key month - K3Y/7. I had someone get on frequency, and call and work me. Then, just started calling his net on that frequency. Maybe he tried to ask me to move; I don't know. I'm still a newer CW OP, and may have missed it, but I doubt it. It still felt kinda rude that he did that. But, oh well. I just moved frequencies, and moved on with my night. Just spin the dial, like I've seen others mention. DE K7RLN
Sometimes being the bigger person and moving on is the answer. Some are just rude operators. Thank you for watching and for the comment. 73!
Agree 100%. And as an old fart-Happy Ham, FT-8 and other digital modes are ruining ham radio. Great to have for weak signal or emcomm. They have their place. For general contacts, phone is still where it is at for me. I just so much more enjoy the sound of a human voice over typing on a keyboard. Digital takes so much of the challenge out of radio (except for trying to remember how to run all the different modes). For me, that challenge is part of what makes radio so much fun. If you need to get a message through and phone is not working, by all means, use digital. That's my opinion and rant.....lol. I really enjoy POTA, but will never work it on digital. Yes, I miss out on the numbers, but that's OK with me. It is good for practice with digital, but not as a steady diet. When things are too easy, things get boring.
@@mr.mistoffelees7188 Yes, like your attitude. I'm free to have my opinion. Thanks for yours.
I like all of facets of ham radio that I am involved in so far and plan on exploring more this year. I am with you, if I am going to go through the trouble of doing POTA and driving out to the middle of nowhere and setting up all my gear...I am doing voice, NOT digital. Those out there that liker that, fine, it's not for me, but I would never discourage or talk down to someone who prefers that. To each his own. Keep up the good work! Thank you for the comment and for watching. 73!!!
Not putting down people who do digital. It's simply not for me. Heck, I hate texting too. I'd rather hear a human voice. The inflection, the humor. Exchanging RST's only is so impersonal. Making friends on radio is special. Something that happens far less on digital. If you want to work digital, knock yourself out. It's just not for me and I know you are missing out on one of the best aspects of ham radio.
That's one small reason I've not tested yet.Its said there are a lot of ugly people on the air that instead of helping a person,they fuss at newbies.When a newbie finally drags a lawyer and lawsuit into this problem,it'll continue.
Hey Randy! Don't let those types discourage you. There are way more nice folks on the radio than the jerks. Our online ham community is strong and very supportive. If you have a chance, join us on the Ham Radio Crash Course Afterchat on Saturday nights. We spend about 4 hours talking and chatting and asking questions about everything ham radio. I think that will be a great thing for you to be involved in and it is FREE! You do NOT need to be licensed to participate. Thanks for the comment and for watching. 73!!
I THOUGH WHEN I GET MY TECHNICIANS LICENSE AND UPGRADE IT... ID BE LESS LIKELY TO DEAL WITH TWATS.... TELL THEM TO GET BACK ON CB... THEY SHOULD KNOW BETTER.
You get morons everywhere. Don't sweat it and if you don't engage them, they go away. They have no real backbone. LOL. Thanks for watching and for the comment. 73!
Some HAMS are no different than CB'ers of the 70's and 80's. 80 meters is bad with it just listen to it.
I guess at some point I need to put up my antenna and tune into 80 meters to heard about everyone's medical conditions...LOL Very happy that at the least they contain themselves to that band. Thanks for watching and for the comment! 73!
Tell him to get on 11 m he’ll have way more fun, especially that he lives in Alabama.
LOL...Thanks for watching and for the comment! 73!
Simple solution buy a linear and turn up the power. But on a more serious note, this story is not the real problem with the hobby.
Oh I know there are other topics that contribute, but this is one that to me could be avoided with a little common courtesy. Thanks for the comment and for watching. 73!
Only remember one thing , its a hobby ! We enjoy the privilege's of our hobby that's all they are , they are not rights !
Very true, but it is also nice to be able to enjoy said hobby without useless interruptions. Thanks for watching and for the comment. 73!!
Ham radio is filled with people proud to have a ham license. And utterly vacant of people ashamed to have to ask the government to speak.
Very good point! Thanks for watching and for the comment! 73!
Do you feel shame asking the government to drive on public roads?
@@ke5ufg do you think operating a 3 ton vehicle is the same as using a walkie talkie?
Two things ruining Ham Radio. QRZ comments and those two idiots using 1500 W to have a QSO on FT8 when they're only two states apart from each other and I'm in between them.
Man, that sucks...I am not sure that I have run into that situation yet. I think it is a bit ludicrous to pump 1500 watts for FT8?!?!?!? Even with my 100w 7300, I usually power down to 20-45 watts and for me that works very well. Thank you for the comment and for watching. 73!!!
That is actually illegal! According to the laws that govern the FCC and ham radio communication: CFR-2011-title47-vol5 Paragraph 97.313: (a) An amateur station must use the
minimum transmitter power necessary to carry out the desired communications.
This is right before the prohibition of using more than 15KW.
de AG8d
And don't bring up to anyone you have a Baofeng, even if you are a poor newbie. The coals of condemnation await your flesh.
Hey, if that is what you can afford and it works for you, who cares what others think. Work with what you have and enjoy ham radio without worrying about snobs in the hobby. The battery on my Baofeng last a heck of a lot longer than on my $500 FT3-DR!!! Thanks for watching and for the comment. 73!
Well said!
Thank you for the comment and for watching. 73!!!
Great advice Scott
Thank you very much. Glad you enjoyed the video! Thank you for the comment and for watching. 73!!!
I'm not sure if there is answer for this. Maybee stressing this point hard in teaching newbees. I think in these, what I call the last days that we are going to have to deal with this kind of thing more every day. There is aragance and self worship and puffed up pride in all walks of life. When I drive I have to tolerate a cluster of turkey birds that think they have to posses a wheel barrow Just to transport their family jewels around. That roadway in front of us belongs to all , but unfortunately far too many of us are seriously bad apples that get our shorts all tied up in a bun just cause someone needed to enter our lane. It looks like people that think too highly about themselves are infesting this radio hobby to. Excessive pride and aragant character is all over the show. 😃
Very interesting point! Thanks for the comment and for watching. 73!
Well said.
Thank you for the comment and for watching. 73!!!
again great video Scott. Is it possible you clean your mic? 73 Erik PD1EBS
Thank you. Not sure what you mean by clean my mic...Thanks for watching and for the comment! 73!
Sad Ham??!!
They are in the dark areas of radio waiting to show that they know so much about nothing at all...LOL Thank you for the comment and for watching. 73!!!
Well said!!
Thank you very much! I felt it needed to be addressed. Thank you for the comment and for watching. 73!!!
@@HR4NT yes sir it did! Im a fairly new Ham, I got my Tech back last April and my General in October...I was lucky because i only ran into one jerk on the air but overall most especially the locals were more than helpful...I found i had 2 stations about 1/2 mile away and they were more than willing to help me with antennas, radios, and just anything i needed. Im still learning myself but I have picked up a lot of knowledge myself ( like i say im no expert ) but when I hear a new Ham i pass on all the info I know about the hobby because imo that's the way it should be!
@@bassangler73 That's fantastic keep up the good work!!!!!
All the old timers who WON'T Elmer anybody!!! If you're under 70, or don't know how to build a transmitter with an old tv tube, they won't even give you the time of day!!! The few contacts I made in Canada and Mexico were good, even congratulated me on getting licensed, but the Americans??? Just another "no code newbie"!!!
Don't let that experiencer get you down. I know it sucks to be treated like that, but not every ham new or old is that way. There are some older hams (70+) that are more than willing to pass on their knowledge. Just keep looking. Options 2, do your own research and find a club or a group of hams in your age group that are willing to discuss and experiment together. I hope this helps and again, don't be discouraged! Thank for the comment and for watching. 73!!
You must be new, it's 80m...
Thanks for watching and for the comment! 73!
Well a ham radio license is just like a drivers license. You are not becoming a better elite blessed person that floats above the common folk. All it means is: You passed the freaking test. We all know how many terrible irresponsible crazy drivers are out there, so in the hamradio world we call those guys with the biggest amp and the smallest wiener and a serious ego problem #sadhams 😜.
Enjoy the hobby and avoid the nutters!
Very well said! Thanks for the comment and for watching. 73!
Self police? ROTFLMAO! After 42 years I'm out of it and don't miss it!
Thanks for watching and for the comment! 73!
Too many "Sad Ham"
I agree. But we need to uphold the integrity of the hobby and help each other out. Thank you for the comment and for watching. 73!!!
AWESOME VIDEO. I just last evening at our local HAM Club meeting, brought up this very topic. Especially when relating what we do to non-hams.
It's become such a big and bad problem that folks are leaving HAM Radio because of the SAD HAMS.
de W5KAL
...and that is what we have to put a stop to. New hams that have this experience and think we a re bunch of nuts when the community is largely very helpful and supportive, but a ne ham might not know that. We must draw a line in the sand and put a stop to this NOW top preserve radio for future generations. Thanks for the comment and for watching. 73!
AH!!!! GLORIFIED CB RADIO
AT ITS FINNEST!!!!!
LOL...right? Sure seems like that type of behavior. Thanks for the comment and for watching. 73!
FINNER than THAT!
@@HarryHamsterChannel
YUP! A WHOLE LOTTA
THAT TOO!!!!
Are you sure that your viewer was not down on the extra portion of the band? If that's the case, then they had every right to tell him to get out. BTW, I'm in college studying human behavior, and someday I will be a psychiatrist. As angry as you sound, I'm wondering if there is really a "viewer" that you are referring to. Are you sure it wasn't yourself that this happened to?
I am not sure what the exact details were beyond what he wrote to me and yes, I am 150% sure it wasn't a situation involved with me. I am an EXTRA. I just really don't like sh!theads bullying others. Thanks for the comment and for watching. 73!
To meny clicks,
Sometimes, but I think the majority of the ham community is on point. Thank you for the comment and for watching. 73!!!
I sense you are upset... lol
No....not at all...lol...what gives you that impression? LOL I just hate to see others get bullied over something that is not necessary nor welcomed in ham radio. Thanks for the comment and for watching. 73!