You are going to continue to have issues if you keep mounting your amp on your enclosure! Mount that monster in a spot with some deadener behind it. You will also need an upgraded alternator.
Garlicbread Riders - Yes he does, and honestly he should have a least two Mechmans for that kind of power. That amp needs stable high power at all times. There is a trade off with budget power. A top notch Orion or Rockford amp can withstand instability, but not Taramps, so the trade off is spending thousands on electrical instead of thousands on amps. You can fight it all you want, but you will eventually lose.
Thanks for being honest and owning up to it, and making us aware. I'll own up to mine. I pulled out my Skar rp1500.1d and assumed I knew which was the power wire vs ground 4g. I should've easily looked and double checked. Well I hooked up power and ground reverse in the amp. When I go to put the battery on, the fused connection after the battery saved my ass. Lit up and melted the 150 amp ANL fuse. I corrected it the next morning when I figured out what happened. The amp works fine, no issues. It's the Taramps Smart 3.
@@nnnvv2121 mine heats up too easily for what I want it to do. Running rp1500.1d on skar svr 15. Sometimes two 15s. Either way it heats up on short drives and below full tilt so meh
Next issue I can see is I noticed alot of flex on that wall, that will take out/kill any amp, Amps hate vibrations, and indeed they need a ton of support, just got my sd12k and I'm being recommended to run 3 banks of 35ah lithium and triple inputs, I own a ds18 hooligan spl 5k also and I absolutely love the look and the feel of that 5k, puts out what it claims if not alittle more, but would definitely be more careful on swapping things back and fourth on them amps and be sure to figure out a good spot where it will get little to no vibrations or be able to flex the board, Amos will last forever if you take the proper precautions
Flex!? It looks like he built it from 1/4 inch it flexes so much. Yes that’s the issue. It’s him he can’t see that he is destroying his own stuff? Omg these kids
@@guyww8516 not to mention that he's gotten the wrong amp. These are meant for mids and large woofer systems. Kind of like what you see the Russians driving around with 20 12" woofers. It even tells you on the box that it's not necessarily meant for subwoofer applications, that's the whole reason they have their "Bass" line of amplifiers.
Haha yep i had a 1000 watt Coustic amp pawn shop special on 2 kicker comp 15s in the late 90s that was a good 18" long or more easily! Went to a soundstream reference 500sx after that which finally gave out recently. Finally went class D with a Fosgate 500 mono block. Amazing how small it is for the power output. Literally half the size of the ref 500. That taramps 12k is a beast though damn!
As someone who has a vehicle where a high output alternator DOESNT exists (other then power bastards but I’m not risking that after the reading I’ve done) seeing you run 12k with a stock alt is dope! I’ve been slowly learning more about what to do and how to do stuff with car audio and your channel has been my go to for learning stuff.
When you shorted the terminals, you killed some output fets. They were shorted. And the amp went into protect avoiding further damage. When you power cycled, the amp has a delay built in on the protect circuit to allow it to start while its charging caps, checking systems and initializing drivers. That delay was enough to allow the amp to power on the power supply into a short(the output fet(s) that got damaged durind the short of the leads. This most likely cooked the remaining output fets on the affected bank, the power supply fets are probably done and the class d drivers. I would recommend anyone with a taramps that if you trow it into protect, at least by shorting terminals or blowing speakers, DO Not power it back up. At a minimum, put a meter on the output terminals to see if they are shorted. When the fets die, most of the time the short. Ideally i would open it and check all the fets, but that means voiding the warranty.
Nah it would be illegal for them to void your warranty by opening the amp up and removing a warranty sticker. ruclips.net/video/lDNg3WYaAAc/видео.html They'd have to prove that you damaged the device by opening it.
this is what exactly happened to me with my brand new md12k taramps.... i added some dual 0 gauge inputs on each input and accidentally one of the + wires from the battery bank touched the body and sparked heavily (pRRRRRAAAAAKKKKKKKKKKKKK!!!) the amp was hooked up during this and i finished up and turn the music on and the amp went in protect so i turned it off and immediately turned it back on after about 5 secs and boom i head a pop inside te amp.....opened it up and the output mosfets (some of them) were blown and yea i ca bet the drivers are gone>
It certainly doesn't have to be a full on sponsorship, but I'm sure an amp company would be willing to give him a good quality high power amp to run their their brand in his testing vehicle. They would get showcased in every video. Taramps gets this for free every video right now
Here in Brazil we really like Taramps amps, it's really cool to see it's becoming famous around the world. I give more importance to it's sound quality and real power (most times higher than the declared by the brand) than to a premium feeling, and never had so many problems with those amps. Maybe you could give more space between the subwoofers and the amp, it would prevent the amp of vibrating as much causing problems to it's components. Nice video!
You've reminded me, I need to install a legit fire ext. in my Project Fire Hazard. It has that name for a reason, and my lil RZR-2500D gets hot running 1ohm. But, now that my 12v power has been strengthened, should help it. I know this from watching Taramps catch fire from running undervolted. Edit: I have installed a legit auto/RV fire ext. since this post. $14 from Wal-Mart.
As a retired amp repair guy your # 1 issue is having the Amp on the box u will introduce alot of vibration which may make your transformer windings rub together and offset the power supply and hurt your fets or keep going into protect and u can't figure why
I can tell you that most of the failures with most of the fullbridge amplifiers like The taramps md 12k , are how the fans push air inward on the fets. If any debris contacts and shorts the fets... well it's a mini 4th of july show. Fullbridge amplifiers will get better over time. In the meantime, just use some sort of dust filter with limited air flow restrictions. This will keep them from collecting debris. I have repaired a few fullbridge amplifiers and discovered this issue to be one of the main reasons. Shout out to Barvids for his knowledge and I know he is more knowledgeable as he has taught me a lot .
I have the MD8000 and one day the fans were louder than normal, i went to check it out and i hit the amp hard with my had, fans went back to normal and the amp started playing allot louder, checked the gain setting with the DD1 and still no distortion, go figure, it likes a good spanking once in a while... i got to give it to Taramps it makes the power but very flimsy built.
I had taramps for the last 4 years. I killed it by shorting the speakers leads, but it got repaired and it's still working fine. I like how small taramps are and how much power they can push out.
When overpowering a sub with a big amp I always leave the gain turned all the way down, but I usually have h.u. with at least 4v or 5v preouts and just adjust by sub level.
I went through 4 skar amps and I'm still trying to get a good one from them. they were all brand new. some were defective others arrived damaged from skar (not shipping.) I love their subs. the amps really disappointed me. I'm going to try one more time before I switch to a different brand. skar customer service is really good. I'm thankful for that.
Be careful buying these from SHCA (sky high car audio). I got one that came in with a fan assembly rolling around in the amp. I sent them videos and pictures. They agreed that it was damaged in shipping, but refused to pay for return shipping. Their logic was "well we paid to ship it to you, and are going to pay to ship you another one, so you can pay $30+ to send it back to us." lol
Sky high must suck if that’s how they treat customers. A good company that wants repeat business would never do that. Creative audio, crutchfield and CT sounds are good to deal with.
You realize you're supposed to buy the BASS series for your subs right? Those are meant for extremely large mids and woofer systems like they do in Russia and shit
@@sethh8892 I've owned several of both, couldn't tell any difference between them. Not saying there isn't a difference, just saying they sounded the same to me, but I use my own pre amp eq.
Been beating my 5000.1 Taramp with (3) 950 batteries and (2) 200 Amp circuit breakers. (1) 12 D2 FI Audio 4500 watts in a 38hz tuned box sitting in my E350 Benz , mad Bass never been disappointed!
Shorting speaker leads , to high an input voltage , and screwing them to the sub box will fuck them up. Keep them fed and dont do the other 3 things and your brazillian amp will last. Or should i say full bridge rail voltage amp, every company is making a copy of them now.
Ive always bought Korean made amps. Yes they are more expensive bought i have never had any issues with any of the 4 that ive purchased heck 2 of them i ran at half ohm for over a yr no problem only reason for getting rid of them is for upgrade reasons. I love Korean amps because at least the ones i owned was hugely underrated and did 500-1000 or more than what they was rated for.
Man good thing to see someone be honest and say hey it was my fault i did the damage, i followed you for a really long time and you have came a very long way Parker dont stop now! Hope your new 12k makes it longer than 6 months keep it up man
😯DAAAMN bro!!! I've had my STETSOM 8K for almost a year never had a problem with it yet! But I ordered it directly from the manufacturer NOT a dealer!!!
It's funny you mention that cause my.buddy keeps bad mouthing my Stetson 3k and he brags that his md taramps 3k us better than my stetsom. He claims that my Stetsom will burn up on me before his does. And then I seen this video. I've personally only had some heating issues but once I bought a fan , I now have no more heating issues with my Stetson and its actually slamming so hard with my single 15 zvx.
@@RomaVilla I meant to say above 12 volts! But I got 3 setups right now bro. But the STETSOM is powering two Memphis LVS 15's while I prepare to start my wall build
I had the same thing happen on an 8K accidentally shorted the remote line to the speaker with the car off apparently there was some voltage enough to pop whatever internally but it never came on again sent it back got another one cuz it was a third party warranty through SquareTrade but I've owned four or five now of the taramps MD yes they're not top quality yes the fans are loud but I honestly have no other complaints definitely best bang-for-the-buck for anyone out there looking
wow parker!! i always wonderd why you used taramps! they have so maney car amplifiers on amazon. its insane!! lucky we got you awesome u tubers that test stuff out and save us consumers the hearteach! saving both sides from the crap on the market!!
Wow i guess im lucky cause i have lithium in my truck and 3 times the lithium has touched ground and it was 4th of july inside my truck smh 😬 both my Taramps MD 12000 did go into protection mode but came back on and are still playing. 🤷🏽♂️ even on time the ground slipped out of the lithium terminal and touched power, sparks and smoke as u guessed but both amps still played sooo 🤷🏽♂️🤷🏽♂️ what can i say these amps are tanks for me
It's issues we all deal with my friend. The dos and donts we all learn from. I completely understand some of reasons to watch out for on certain amps like that Taramp. I have had many amps blow on me. There are some that just don't handle what we want them to. Thanks for sharing my friend.
Haha I done a similar thing to my pioneer amp, car was off but I decided I wanted to but a wire ferrule on my 12v + - and didn't even think to disconnect battery for the simple job, carefully done - easy then doing the + I acidently dropped it and it welded to the body of the amp and actually took a good 10 seconds of glowing until it popped the fuse, it actually popped my radio fuse as well so maybe went up RCA? Anyway a nice arc mark on my amp and it worked no problems. I just get on and off pops now from the radio, even when changing radio station :(
The reason you have to keep replacing that amp is because taramps can’t take direct vibration that well. Mounting a taramps on a subwoofer enclosure would never last and will always fail. Mount the amp somewhere else and you will not have to replace it again. And put rubber feet on it too.
Personally, I prefer a solid Korean half bridge, even though the size and cost are both bigger. They are just more reliable and well made overall, assuming you got a good brand. Amp prices are really high right now. 9k Wolfram used to be $900-$1000 but now it's $1300-$1400 for the same amp because of tariffs and crap.
Up in smoke! Well there goes your chances (up in smoke) at Taramps sponsoring future episodes 😆 Actually, now they may feel more inclined to, to prove themselves. As they should❗btw I greatly appreciate the honesty and unbiasedness you provide. Please don't EVER allow ANYONE OR ANY COMPANY to persuade your opinion. That trait alone will ensure your channels success. Please make a video showing how many dBs more you can get by going from one sub, to two identical subs!? Does it increase by 3 dB (doubling output)? I'd think this topic ought to go viral.
Last week i burnt up my soundigital evo 5k, it had amazing rms power! One the Moffetts burnt. I now have bought the taramps smart 5 bass, does 2 through .5 ohm, its a beast!! Hands down amazing raw rms compared to my evo 5k... the smart 5 bass has dual power inputs and is same size as my buddys soundigital evo 8k ...
I have the smart5 as well, im only running 2 evl 12s, so I haven't seen the full potential yet. But it's ridiculous! Those 12s won't last much longer, wich will give me a reason to buy new subs 😄. What you running?
Apocalypse 7900.1 snag one before the price doubles man. I did. 649. It replaced the 7800.1 which went up to 1199..... now the 7900 is 649 but for sure will double to 1200. Bro..... it's def bonce and soundigital together.....8000 watts at 12 volts... I have a 3800.1 too and it went from 499 to 799!!! Cannot beat that 7900.1 price!!!!!! Snag one bro!!!!
Your install is clean. wiring looks very professional. But like mentioned below you need to change how your amp is mounted. the more you can reduce vibration the longer your amp will last you. Granted the entire vehicle vibrates so can't eliminate all the vibration but help reduce it. Glad someone can admit they made the mistake that caused second amp to die. It's easy to point a finger and post a negative review. I've been running my MD8000.1 for a year and no problems what so ever. No one has ever claimed Taramps to be top of the line but definitely best bang for your buck!
The amp is mounted to a wall (with rubber grommets) that is not connected to my box. The Failures had nothing to do with vibration. One was damaged in shipping and the other was my fault. Live and earn haha! They really are the best bang for the buck
@@tyjuanthrasher4226 yeah the knobs definitely feel cheap. I don't use that bass boost at all though. It only boost that certain frequency that you set it to with the knob to the left of it.
Had an amp rack built at a shop, they didn’t mount it right, my amp fell the leads touched and fried my sundown salt amp, shop took full responsibility and paid me for the amp, I could have avoided that if i wasn’t to lazy to do it myself.
Whether you shorted the speaker leads or not the protection circuit should’ve prevented total amp failure. Did they warranty the amp? If not why? Did you pay for repair? Why buy a brand new third amp? Hope they gave you a discount for the free advertising & promo!
What happened to the Audiopipe amp? I have had great luck with the one I bought. It's only a 2k. Have you looked the Alphard amps, they seem nice and pretty inexpensive?
I have a Deaf Bonce 13K amp and it looks so beautiful! Lol it only costs me $1000... I haven’t installed it yet due to the fact that I need to buy more stuff for it like new alternator, more batteries, etc etc. I might just put the DB amp in my car and have it sit there lol
Make sure your output voltage coming off of the head unit is not more than 1.5 volts taramps don’t like it, you can check, and adjust it with a volt meeter
Nah, not really. Look at extremely large SPL systems where all the amplifiers are just mounted to the back of the box. In systems that large there is no location in the vehicle that is away from vibration. The subs go out faster than their amps do, mainly due to the fact that they are professionals and actually buy the proper products. The guy in the video is not the brightest... He's buying the wrong amplifier for the wrong application. The one he should be buying is the BASS series amps, but he doesn't know that he is running a woofer amp.
You need to put some padding between the subs and the amp so that the amp is not taking so much vibration from the box. It's probably rattling the components to death. It will help with the shock waves
And this is why I run Korean half bridge. Beat them like rented Mules daily and they just take it for car after car! Got one system all JL thats 10 years old still sounds amazing and can bang! My DC audio system has been in two delivery cars so it’s been played almost non stop for 5 years now and it’s all still going good! Did have to replace one battery and a few highs and mids but that was my fault not the equipment! Well sort of!
Do these amps sound good? I’m looking for some quality sounding power for a decent price. I need a lot of power like these provide but I probably am just listening at normal levels 80% of the time. Do these sound clean enough for that kind of use or are they mainly just good for getting loud?
I'm on my second JP95. I have a 500 watt 2 ohm sub and I blew it on the JP95. The sub became 0 ohms and took out the sub channel. It should have had protection for that but it didn't work.
Brooo, I bought taramps 3000 amp last year in india. My bro in usa recommended it to me as it was cheap af compared to other amps. BUT when I got it I saw it’s build quality was below average. It lasted only 7 months that too on a 1000 watt sub on 2 ohms. Now I have sundown audio amp and it’s running like a champ.
I haven’t killed my 12K yet in my big build vehicle I have 1000ah of reserve for both of my 12k’s with a XS Power D975 powering the mids and highs amp it’s like 100ah for my Crescendo Symphony 1k and that does amazing for that, but anyway I have 4 Mechman 370a alts plus my stock 90a alt charging the XS Power D975. And I have had everything running for about 4 years now. Note everything is on switches except my Crescendo so I can turn off my amps to avoid those problems all together.
I need to find a cheap used one with over 1k watts. I paid over 200$ for 250 watts for a Rockford amp. Totally not worth it. I could have been upgrading part of my system instead I messed up being an uneducated consumer. The quality is great but for the price I could have easily gotten 1k or more.
Wats up Parker? Can you confirm if these MD models will pick up frequencies below 30hz? Thinking about getting the MD5000.1 for my setup. I'm replacing my ORION XTR4000.1
Hi. Thanks for the tips on the Taramps. What about, can you link me to the dual 2/0 inputs you have on there?! Those are dual 2/0 inputs on there aren’t they? I don’t want to get incorrect inputs. Thanks.
The problem is that the protection circuit in these Taramps takes a while to kick on and isn't fast enough so you can't really trust it for that. The second amp would be worth repairing though
Did u build ur own headway set up? I have bought some but don't know a great deal about them so they are still in the box they came in. I'm not sure if I need a balancer or how to charge them exactly. I want to make something for all of them to fit in also, some sort of casing. Not sure if u have any videos about the headway cells or not.
What brand are your dual inputs? and what is the lowest voltage you get there? is that the only amp you have on your system? I have 225ah lifepo4 lithium cells and my voltage drops down to 11.85v at 100% volume i have 1 bass 8k tamps for 2 HCCAs 15" and 1 MD8000 for Mids and 1200 for tweeters. Is your lowest voltage drop with car on or off?
Ever thought about putting your hand on the amp and seeing if it is vibrating? Because I really think that is your problem and not the cheap cardboard packaging it came in!
I swapped out 2 smart bass 3ks for a smart 8 bass. Had the 3s in for 4 months. The 8 lasted 5 days. Strong smell n shit off. No smoke or sparks. 2.5v preouts, 15.7v charging . Not sure what happened. Put a 3 back in all good. Guess i got a dud. Now im too worried to use abother one. Can't risk my other equipment. Going back to korean. Very disappointing. Going from the 2 3ks to the 8k i gained 1.5 db on the meter too. I really like how it puts out full power from .5 ohm to 2 ohm. Helps with box rise. Hope my korean 8k is as loud. Pretty sure im going with the soundqube q1 8k.
Thank you bro, you made the shit so simple. I hate these fake tech people who think they know it all. Just show me the setup and the rest history 💪🏾💪🏾💪🏾
I made the same error on a SoundQubed S12250. I shorted out the pos and neg output wires and it went into protect, but it also fried most the mosfets. Anyway, I believe they should have sent me a new amp because its supposed to go into protect to keep it from frying but it did not. It did go into protect but it fried and stayed in protect. B.S! They charged me $120 to fix it and I had to pay to ship it to them. Was my fault, but like you said, " thats what the protection is supposed to be there for."
Definitely depends on what kind of space you're working with. I'm running one AB XFL in a built to spec ported birch word double baffle box built by GP audio and an AB VFL comp 3k on it and gets down like nobody's business installed in a 08 Grand Prix. I'm thinking about selling the box and sub and run 2 XFL 12's at .5ohm since I've got the power and electrical upgrades to run everything. I'm just shy of hitting 143db....Parker hit a 145db on his review of the XFL last year.
You need a ton of amperage on tap for that big amplifier.. Multiple AGM's or a 100 amp hour lithium. Even if you aren't driving it hard. Realistically, you should have two alternators as well for that size amp.
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You are going to continue to have issues if you keep mounting your amp on your enclosure! Mount that monster in a spot with some deadener behind it. You will also need an upgraded alternator.
His amp isn't mounted to the enclosure. He did a video a little while back showing the building & installation of his amp rack.
Joe B - It shouldn’t be anywhere near that enclosure, period. I don’t care what he built to hold it. That is just way too much flex my man.
He really does not need a bigger alternator with all that lithium he just needs to keep them charged
Garlicbread Riders - Yes he does, and honestly he should have a least two Mechmans for that kind of power. That amp needs stable high power at all times. There is a trade off with budget power. A top notch Orion or Rockford amp can withstand instability, but not Taramps, so the trade off is spending thousands on electrical instead of thousands on amps. You can fight it all you want, but you will eventually lose.
Garlicbread Riders - Guess what? He just installed a more powerful alternator.
Thanks for being honest and owning up to it, and making us aware. I'll own up to mine. I pulled out my Skar rp1500.1d and assumed I knew which was the power wire vs ground 4g. I should've easily looked and double checked. Well I hooked up power and ground reverse in the amp. When I go to put the battery on, the fused connection after the battery saved my ass. Lit up and melted the 150 amp ANL fuse. I corrected it the next morning when I figured out what happened. The amp works fine, no issues. It's the Taramps Smart 3.
How does that skar amp
Preform ? Thinking of getting one
Measure twice cut once!!!🤔😉 A lesson that won't soon be forgotten.💥😫
@@nnnvv2121 mine heats up too easily for what I want it to do.
Running rp1500.1d on skar svr 15. Sometimes two 15s.
Either way it heats up on short drives and below full tilt so meh
Next issue I can see is I noticed alot of flex on that wall, that will take out/kill any amp, Amps hate vibrations, and indeed they need a ton of support, just got my sd12k and I'm being recommended to run 3 banks of 35ah lithium and triple inputs, I own a ds18 hooligan spl 5k also and I absolutely love the look and the feel of that 5k, puts out what it claims if not alittle more, but would definitely be more careful on swapping things back and fourth on them amps and be sure to figure out a good spot where it will get little to no vibrations or be able to flex the board, Amos will last forever if you take the proper precautions
My md8k is mounted on 3/4" piece of Baltic birch bolted to the floor. 3 15s just beat the snot out of my truck and no issues as if yet with my Taramps
Flex!? It looks like he built it from 1/4 inch it flexes so much. Yes that’s the issue. It’s him he can’t see that he is destroying his own stuff? Omg these kids
@@guyww8516 not to mention that he's gotten the wrong amp. These are meant for mids and large woofer systems. Kind of like what you see the Russians driving around with 20 12" woofers. It even tells you on the box that it's not necessarily meant for subwoofer applications, that's the whole reason they have their "Bass" line of amplifiers.
Exactly. He a idiiiiiot
I remember most 1000 watt amps looked like this size 20 yrs ago🔥
Shizzz my old California a1200 max 600w was a foot longer
Yup them Ole 90's ppi joints were huge!
Class ab and class d fullbridge cant be compared at all
@@CVLova im comparing footprint "Einstein".....i never gave any details, if you can read you can clearly see all of what I said.
Haha yep i had a 1000 watt Coustic amp pawn shop special on 2 kicker comp 15s in the late 90s that was a good 18" long or more easily! Went to a soundstream reference 500sx after that which finally gave out recently. Finally went class D with a Fosgate 500 mono block. Amazing how small it is for the power output. Literally half the size of the ref 500. That taramps 12k is a beast though damn!
As someone who has a vehicle where a high output alternator DOESNT exists (other then power bastards but I’m not risking that after the reading I’ve done) seeing you run 12k with a stock alt is dope! I’ve been slowly learning more about what to do and how to do stuff with car audio and your channel has been my go to for learning stuff.
I run 16k rms on a stock alt I just have a lot of 12v xs power agm 6 d7500s i charge at night after a lot of demos with a 15a xs power intellicharger
90% of Alts in America don't fit cars in Australia for example, get a metal fabricator, make your own bracket
When you shorted the terminals, you killed some output fets. They were shorted. And the amp went into protect avoiding further damage. When you power cycled, the amp has a delay built in on the protect circuit to allow it to start while its charging caps, checking systems and initializing drivers. That delay was enough to allow the amp to power on the power supply into a short(the output fet(s) that got damaged durind the short of the leads. This most likely cooked the remaining output fets on the affected bank, the power supply fets are probably done and the class d drivers.
I would recommend anyone with a taramps that if you trow it into protect, at least by shorting terminals or blowing speakers, DO Not power it back up. At a minimum, put a meter on the output terminals to see if they are shorted. When the fets die, most of the time the short. Ideally i would open it and check all the fets, but that means voiding the warranty.
Nah it would be illegal for them to void your warranty by opening the amp up and removing a warranty sticker.
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They'd have to prove that you damaged the device by opening it.
this is what exactly happened to me with my brand new md12k taramps.... i added some dual 0 gauge inputs on each input and accidentally one of the + wires from the battery bank touched the body and sparked heavily (pRRRRRAAAAAKKKKKKKKKKKKK!!!) the amp was hooked up during this and i finished up and turn the music on and the amp went in protect so i turned it off and immediately turned it back on after about 5 secs and boom i head a pop inside te amp.....opened it up and the output mosfets (some of them) were blown and yea i ca bet the drivers are gone>
You need to worry about shorting leads no matter what electrical component/device you're working with. A higher quality amp will not change that.
Someone really needs to sponsor you man with a high end amp.. your doing a really good job with your videos.. Thanks bro
Why? His bread and butter is showing cheap shit to cheap Ppl making ad rev
It doesn't have to be a total loss if he selling the blown amp I'll buy it
Dude fix the other 2 and make a monster bass setup
CrimsonScythe - And spend thousands on electrical and a wall build?
It certainly doesn't have to be a full on sponsorship, but I'm sure an amp company would be willing to give him a good quality high power amp to run their their brand in his testing vehicle. They would get showcased in every video. Taramps gets this for free every video right now
Here in Brazil we really like Taramps amps, it's really cool to see it's becoming famous around the world. I give more importance to it's sound quality and real power (most times higher than the declared by the brand) than to a premium feeling, and never had so many problems with those amps.
Maybe you could give more space between the subwoofers and the amp, it would prevent the amp of vibrating as much causing problems to it's components.
Nice video!
Do you use fuse for your amplifier?
You've reminded me, I need to install a legit fire ext. in my Project Fire Hazard. It has that name for a reason, and my lil RZR-2500D gets hot running 1ohm. But, now that my 12v power has been strengthened, should help it. I know this from watching Taramps catch fire from running undervolted.
Edit: I have installed a legit auto/RV fire ext. since this post. $14 from Wal-Mart.
Stop using wal mart if possible.
You could contact Barevids and get an explanation of what might’ve happened to ur 2nd amp. He’s very knowledgeable on car amps.
He said he shorted the output terminals.
he says exactly what happened to it....watch the video
I’m talking about giving a breakdown on what happened in the circuity itself.
Change all output fet's and it will fire up and work again, i have fixed several Taramps because of that fault 🤗
@@icebreaker2k3 The damn amp produces so much sound it distructs itself from the outside...
As a retired amp repair guy your # 1 issue is having the Amp on the box u will introduce alot of vibration which may make your transformer windings rub together and offset the power supply and hurt your fets or keep going into protect and u can't figure why
Could this also be the reason the amp won’t turn on ? , I’m getting power threw the wires and everything but the amp just won’t cut on 😊
I can tell you that most of the failures with most of the fullbridge amplifiers like The taramps md 12k , are how the fans push air inward on the fets. If any debris contacts and shorts the fets... well it's a mini 4th of july show. Fullbridge amplifiers will get better over time. In the meantime, just use some sort of dust filter with limited air flow restrictions. This will keep them from collecting debris. I have repaired a few fullbridge amplifiers and discovered this issue to be one of the main reasons. Shout out to Barvids for his knowledge and I know he is more knowledgeable as he has taught me a lot .
I have the MD8000 and one day the fans were louder than normal, i went to check it out and i hit the amp hard with my had, fans went back to normal and the amp started playing allot louder, checked the gain setting with the DD1 and still no distortion, go figure, it likes a good spanking once in a while... i got to give it to Taramps it makes the power but very flimsy built.
I had taramps for the last 4 years. I killed it by shorting the speakers leads, but it got repaired and it's still working fine. I like how small taramps are and how much power they can push out.
Any comment on the da 440 by 4?
@@shaquiloneale1850 It's a great amplifier. ruclips.net/video/vyh2mpEbxcw/видео.html It can delivery more than 500 watts at 14.4V
Mount the amp elsewhere vibration killing them or not helping
I have a Taramps Smart3.
Running stock electrical.
My Sundown SA-15 was wired to 8ohms. And the amplifier still fried my sub.
still 2k rms what did you expect
Ryan LaPlante
I knew it was powerful but I did not expect it to be *that* powerful. But when I saw the price, I couldn’t resist buying it.
You clipped your sub to death no doubt..
When overpowering a sub with a big amp I always leave the gain turned all the way down, but I usually have h.u. with at least 4v or 5v preouts and just adjust by sub level.
so you had the knobs cranked hard to the right? right?
I went through 4 skar amps and I'm still trying to get a good one from them. they were all brand new. some were defective others arrived damaged from skar (not shipping.) I love their subs. the amps really disappointed me. I'm going to try one more time before I switch to a different brand. skar customer service is really good. I'm thankful for that.
Williston labs has a great explanation of the smart 3 buy tara amps and bass series ....and how the internal caps work
Junk
Be careful buying these from SHCA (sky high car audio). I got one that came in with a fan assembly rolling around in the amp. I sent them videos and pictures. They agreed that it was damaged in shipping, but refused to pay for return shipping. Their logic was "well we paid to ship it to you, and are going to pay to ship you another one, so you can pay $30+ to send it back to us." lol
That’s not as bad as me man had to send back a massive hifonics after it broke on me in 30 minutes of play 62$ shipping I was like dang man.
@@jessehoeper Yep, not buying any amps or subs from them ever again, their wire is good though.
GuitarHeroGage mine was from theamplab but I was pissed 30 minutes and she was puffing smoke.
Sky high must suck if that’s how they treat customers. A good company that wants repeat business would never do that. Creative audio, crutchfield and CT sounds are good to deal with.
I own both the MD12k and the MD8k and both very solid. Say what you want but I’m Team Taramps for life...lol.
Me too, they so cheap that if my 8k blows I'll just buy the 15k to replace it. Lol
Yea I have a bass 8k can’t beat it for the price
You realize you're supposed to buy the BASS series for your subs right? Those are meant for extremely large mids and woofer systems like they do in Russia and shit
@@sethh8892 I've owned several of both, couldn't tell any difference between them. Not saying there isn't a difference, just saying they sounded the same to me, but I use my own pre amp eq.
So I should buy the 8 k amp for my 2 4k subs ??
Have one 3 years now no issues
Been beating my 5000.1 Taramp with (3) 950 batteries and (2) 200 Amp circuit breakers. (1) 12 D2 FI Audio 4500 watts in a 38hz tuned box sitting in my E350 Benz , mad Bass never been disappointed!
SUP DUDE! another good vid...man your doin something alot of us didnt do a LONG time ago..
Shorting speaker leads , to high an input voltage , and screwing them to the sub box will fuck them up. Keep them fed and dont do the other 3 things and your brazillian amp will last. Or should i say full bridge rail voltage amp, every company is making a copy of them now.
Ive always bought Korean made amps. Yes they are more expensive bought i have never had any issues with any of the 4 that ive purchased heck 2 of them i ran at half ohm for over a yr no problem only reason for getting rid of them is for upgrade reasons. I love Korean amps because at least the ones i owned was hugely underrated and did 500-1000 or more than what they was rated for.
Man good thing to see someone be honest and say hey it was my fault i did the damage, i followed you for a really long time and you have came a very long way Parker dont stop now! Hope your new 12k makes it longer than 6 months keep it up man
😯DAAAMN bro!!! I've had my STETSOM 8K for almost a year never had a problem with it yet! But I ordered it directly from the manufacturer NOT a dealer!!!
Owned a Stetsom 6k for over a year and an 8k for 6 months
It's funny you mention that cause my.buddy keeps bad mouthing my Stetson 3k and he brags that his md taramps 3k us better than my stetsom. He claims that my Stetsom will burn up on me before his does. And then I seen this video. I've personally only had some heating issues but once I bought a fan , I now have no more heating issues with my Stetson and its actually slamming so hard with my single 15 zvx.
@@RomaVilla FOR SURE BRO!!! As long as you keep the volts above 12 good to go
@@74midwestbass74 good looking out bro, I'm definitely upgrading my alt asap... By the way what kind of set up are you running right now?
@@RomaVilla I meant to say above 12 volts! But I got 3 setups right now bro. But the STETSOM is powering two Memphis LVS 15's while I prepare to start my wall build
Hey Parker,dude you are doing your thing bro,keep it up ! Awesome vid as always 👍
Im so glad that you did this. I was about to buy one been looking at them for about a week
Wat u gone get
I had the same thing happen on an 8K accidentally shorted the remote line to the speaker with the car off apparently there was some voltage enough to pop whatever internally but it never came on again sent it back got another one cuz it was a third party warranty through SquareTrade but I've owned four or five now of the taramps MD yes they're not top quality yes the fans are loud but I honestly have no other complaints definitely best bang-for-the-buck for anyone out there looking
Love your videos man. A 12k amp screwed to a flexing box will never last more than 6-9 months, if that.
wow parker!! i always wonderd why you used taramps! they have so maney car amplifiers on amazon. its insane!! lucky we got you awesome u tubers that test stuff out and save us consumers the hearteach! saving both sides from the crap on the market!!
Wow i guess im lucky cause i have lithium in my truck and 3 times the lithium has touched ground and it was 4th of july inside my truck smh 😬 both my Taramps MD 12000 did go into protection mode but came back on and are still playing. 🤷🏽♂️ even on time the ground slipped out of the lithium terminal and touched power, sparks and smoke as u guessed but both amps still played sooo 🤷🏽♂️🤷🏽♂️ what can i say these amps are tanks for me
Same happened to me man. I have the Bass 3K and damn like you said it looked like 4th of July in dis bihh. Lol it just keeps on going though.
How long was it in protection mode ? Before it came back ?
How long was it on protecting mode before it came back
Robert Coronado I just turned my car off and back on and it was good. But I have the BASS 3K Amp. Not the MD.
James Jeffrey plummer I have the MD 8k Whats the difference on the md and the bass ?
It's issues we all deal with my friend. The dos and donts we all learn from. I completely understand some of reasons to watch out for on certain amps like that Taramp. I have had many amps blow on me. There are some that just don't handle what we want them to. Thanks for sharing my friend.
Haha I done a similar thing to my pioneer amp, car was off but I decided I wanted to but a wire ferrule on my 12v + - and didn't even think to disconnect battery for the simple job, carefully done - easy then doing the + I acidently dropped it and it welded to the body of the amp and actually took a good 10 seconds of glowing until it popped the fuse, it actually popped my radio fuse as well so maybe went up RCA? Anyway a nice arc mark on my amp and it worked no problems. I just get on and off pops now from the radio, even when changing radio station :(
I seen that fire extinguisher in reaching distance for that fire maker.
Yessir gotta be ready 😂
The reason you have to keep replacing that amp is because taramps can’t take direct vibration that well. Mounting a taramps on a subwoofer enclosure would never last and will always fail. Mount the amp somewhere else and you will not have to replace it again. And put rubber feet on it too.
Personally, I prefer a solid Korean half bridge, even though the size and cost are both bigger. They are just more reliable and well made overall, assuming you got a good brand. Amp prices are really high right now. 9k Wolfram used to be $900-$1000 but now it's $1300-$1400 for the same amp because of tariffs and crap.
I agree. Apparently QC is cut as well as the price 😉.
Just bought a d4s jp23 and the bass broke parts in my trunk. Def don’t need 12,000 watts in the hot hatches and midsize sedans I drive.
Up in smoke! Well there goes your chances (up in smoke) at Taramps sponsoring future episodes 😆 Actually, now they may feel more inclined to, to prove themselves. As they should❗btw I greatly appreciate the honesty and unbiasedness you provide. Please don't EVER allow ANYONE OR ANY COMPANY to persuade your opinion. That trait alone will ensure your channels success. Please make a video showing how many dBs more you can get by going from one sub, to two identical subs!? Does it increase by 3 dB (doubling output)? I'd think this topic ought to go viral.
Yeah man way more important to to me to make honest reviews than get sponsored
I have a 650 Watt app is 25 years old and still working it was pushing for 12 kicker Solo-Baric not pushing for 12 L7 it works
Last week i burnt up my soundigital evo 5k, it had amazing rms power! One the Moffetts burnt. I now have bought the taramps smart 5 bass, does 2 through .5 ohm, its a beast!! Hands down amazing raw rms compared to my evo 5k... the smart 5 bass has dual power inputs and is same size as my buddys soundigital evo 8k ...
I have the smart5 as well, im only running 2 evl 12s, so I haven't seen the full potential yet. But it's ridiculous! Those 12s won't last much longer, wich will give me a reason to buy new subs 😄. What you running?
@@kevinriley5979 im running two hdc4 18s, box is 11.5 cubes after displacement tuned to 28hz
@@MyHairyChin damn now thats a 📦!
@@kevinriley5979 is your smart 5 the bass series? The smart 5 is diffrent from the smart 5 bass
Very nice review! I was gonna get a taramp 3k but got a stetsom 3k!
I walk away from car audio and your videos brought me back. My bank amount fucking hates you but I love you.
Apocalypse 7900.1 snag one before the price doubles man. I did. 649. It replaced the 7800.1 which went up to 1199..... now the 7900 is 649 but for sure will double to 1200. Bro..... it's def bonce and soundigital together.....8000 watts at 12 volts... I have a 3800.1 too and it went from 499 to 799!!! Cannot beat that 7900.1 price!!!!!! Snag one bro!!!!
I have the Deaf Bonce 12,900 amp and it looks so beautiful
My 8k worked great no problems went thru 4 rides till the next guy wired it to .5
Your install is clean. wiring looks very professional. But like mentioned below you need to change how your amp is mounted. the more you can reduce vibration the longer your amp will last you. Granted the entire vehicle vibrates so can't eliminate all the vibration but help reduce it.
Glad someone can admit they made the mistake that caused second amp to die. It's easy to point a finger and post a negative review.
I've been running my MD8000.1 for a year and no problems what so ever. No one has ever claimed Taramps to be top of the line but definitely best bang for your buck!
The amp is mounted to a wall (with rubber grommets) that is not connected to my box. The Failures had nothing to do with vibration. One was damaged in shipping and the other was my fault. Live and earn haha! They really are the best bang for the buck
I bought the smart 3k and the packaging was so bad. Amp works amazing but still wuts up with the lack of bubble wrap?
I had one for a week and the boost nob broke fam doesn’t work but holding up
@@tyjuanthrasher4226 yeah the knobs definitely feel cheap. I don't use that bass boost at all though. It only boost that certain frequency that you set it to with the knob to the left of it.
Had an amp rack built at a shop, they didn’t mount it right, my amp fell the leads touched and fried my sundown salt amp, shop took full responsibility and paid me for the amp, I could have avoided that if i wasn’t to lazy to do it myself.
Whether you shorted the speaker leads or not the protection circuit should’ve prevented total amp failure. Did they warranty the amp? If not why? Did you pay for repair? Why buy a brand new third amp? Hope they gave you a discount for the free advertising & promo!
What happened to the Audiopipe amp? I have had great luck with the one I bought. It's only a 2k. Have you looked the Alphard amps, they seem nice and pretty inexpensive?
Love all my ap amps 3k kicks ass
Or the wolfram amps
I have a Deaf Bonce 13K amp and it looks so beautiful! Lol it only costs me $1000... I haven’t installed it yet due to the fact that I need to buy more stuff for it like new alternator, more batteries, etc etc. I might just put the DB amp in my car and have it sit there lol
Make sure your output voltage coming off of the head unit is not more than 1.5 volts taramps don’t like it, you can check, and adjust it with a volt meeter
Vibration on the board from the bass box cant make parts break on the more and short off
Nah, not really. Look at extremely large SPL systems where all the amplifiers are just mounted to the back of the box. In systems that large there is no location in the vehicle that is away from vibration. The subs go out faster than their amps do, mainly due to the fact that they are professionals and actually buy the proper products. The guy in the video is not the brightest... He's buying the wrong amplifier for the wrong application. The one he should be buying is the BASS series amps, but he doesn't know that he is running a woofer amp.
doesnt void your warrantly if you take the stickers off very carefully. Or bought it through amazon. amazon will let you return it no matter what.
You need to put some padding between the subs and the amp so that the amp is not taking so much vibration from the box. It's probably rattling the components to death. It will help with the shock waves
Thanks for this, you are the first person show the internals of this amplifier.
I love your honesty with everything you do on this channel ....awesome video....
Parker bro I love ur videos man u always have great info
Great vid parker i run crescendo amps i love the quality and sound
And this is why I run Korean half bridge. Beat them like rented Mules daily and they just take it for car after car! Got one system all JL thats 10 years old still sounds amazing and can bang! My DC audio system has been in two delivery cars so it’s been played almost non stop for 5 years now and it’s all still going good! Did have to replace one battery and a few highs and mids but that was my fault not the equipment! Well sort of!
How did you use the CT Sounds knob on the 12k. I have a 8k and would like to do that
I love your videos bro keep goin up 💪🏿💯
Will do I appreciate you!!
Do these amps sound good? I’m looking for some quality sounding power for a decent price. I need a lot of power like these provide but I probably am just listening at normal levels 80% of the time. Do these sound clean enough for that kind of use or are they mainly just good for getting loud?
Does anyone know, why amps get blown?
So theres no reason to ad fuses to battery to amp?
Whats the difference can someone help me please.
I'm on my second JP95. I have a 500 watt 2 ohm sub and I blew it on the JP95. The sub became 0 ohms and took out the sub channel. It should have had protection for that but it didn't work.
Great video Parker!
Brooo, I bought taramps 3000 amp last year in india. My bro in usa recommended it to me as it was cheap af compared to other amps. BUT when I got it I saw it’s build quality was below average. It lasted only 7 months that too on a 1000 watt sub on 2 ohms. Now I have sundown audio amp and it’s running like a champ.
What do you think of hifonics? Specifically the bxx4000.1d? 😊
Thank you for making videos. Really learned a lot and for making rookies like me enjoy this hobby coz of your budget best bang for your buck vids.
I had my skar 4500rms rp for about a year no problem
Same here👍
How is high pass 10-90hz? Is that subsonic filter? Can you explain please?
Yes subsonic
I haven’t killed my 12K yet in my big build vehicle I have 1000ah of reserve for both of my 12k’s with a XS Power D975 powering the mids and highs amp it’s like 100ah for my Crescendo Symphony 1k and that does amazing for that, but anyway I have 4 Mechman 370a alts plus my stock 90a alt charging the XS Power D975. And I have had everything running for about 4 years now. Note everything is on switches except my Crescendo so I can turn off my amps to avoid those problems all together.
I just can’t come to buy Brazilian amps. I got JL, Soundqubed and Rockford Amps.
I feel ya ,I’d try one out if I got a gd deal on one cause seen a vid guy had like 4-6 12 “s on a amp similar taramps
I need to find a cheap used one with over 1k watts. I paid over 200$ for 250 watts for a Rockford amp. Totally not worth it. I could have been upgrading part of my system instead I messed up being an uneducated consumer. The quality is great but for the price I could have easily gotten 1k or more.
@@finnirish12 genius audio hd3000.1
You will need another battery though
When I've seen videos of cars and sound trucks bursting into flames in the last ten years, it's always been Taramps, lol
Dude. Repair that other 12k, get like 9 more SA 8s, a new alt, double your headway, and wall it. 💪
Wats up Parker? Can you confirm if these MD models will pick up frequencies below 30hz? Thinking about getting the MD5000.1 for my setup. I'm replacing my ORION XTR4000.1
Yeah plays stuff in the 20s no problem!
Hi. Thanks for the tips on the Taramps. What about, can you link me to the dual 2/0 inputs you have on there?! Those are dual 2/0 inputs on there aren’t they? I don’t want to get incorrect inputs. Thanks.
I have three MD12k in my build doind 160+ at 20HZ and 158 at 15HZ.
I have yet to have a failure.
Great review bud thanks 😊
The problem is that the protection circuit in these Taramps takes a while to kick on and isn't fast enough so you can't really trust it for that. The second amp would be worth repairing though
Did u build ur own headway set up? I have bought some but don't know a great deal about them so they are still in the box they came in. I'm not sure if I need a balancer or how to charge them exactly. I want to make something for all of them to fit in also, some sort of casing. Not sure if u have any videos about the headway cells or not.
Yeah thanks for dat input brutha shid I was thinking about getting one til I watched ur video
What brand are your dual inputs? and what is the lowest voltage you get there? is that the only amp you have on your system? I have 225ah lifepo4 lithium cells and my voltage drops down to 11.85v at 100% volume i have 1 bass 8k tamps for 2 HCCAs 15" and 1 MD8000 for Mids and 1200 for tweeters. Is your lowest voltage drop with car on or off?
Ever thought about putting your hand on the amp and seeing if it is vibrating? Because I really think that is your problem and not the cheap cardboard packaging it came in!
Maybe you can disassemble the amp and CA the nobs on the petentometers and reenter the markings.
It might have gave out from vibration? I always thought it's not a good idea to mount on the sub box?
I swapped out 2 smart bass 3ks for a smart 8 bass. Had the 3s in for 4 months. The 8 lasted 5 days. Strong smell n shit off. No smoke or sparks. 2.5v preouts, 15.7v charging . Not sure what happened. Put a 3 back in all good. Guess i got a dud. Now im too worried to use abother one. Can't risk my other equipment. Going back to korean. Very disappointing. Going from the 2 3ks to the 8k i gained 1.5 db on the meter too. I really like how it puts out full power from .5 ohm to 2 ohm. Helps with box rise. Hope my korean 8k is as loud. Pretty sure im going with the soundqube q1 8k.
Thank you bro, you made the shit so simple. I hate these fake tech people who think they know it all. Just show me the setup and the rest history 💪🏾💪🏾💪🏾
Can you show us how it happen when they 2 speaker wires touched make s video
it shorts. go take a battery hook jumper cables to it and clang the other ends together. That
I made the same error on a SoundQubed S12250. I shorted out the pos and neg output wires and it went into protect, but it also fried most the mosfets. Anyway, I believe they should have sent me a new amp because its supposed to go into protect to keep it from frying but it did not. It did go into protect but it fried and stayed in protect. B.S! They charged me $120 to fix it and I had to pay to ship it to them. Was my fault, but like you said, " thats what the protection is supposed to be there for."
Nice, what do your 12s meter off that amp ?
What would you rather do. 2 10s AB or 1 12 DB witch both equal 2krms with a AB 1800.1 amp?? Also thinking of Inifinity Kappas for voice
Definitely depends on what kind of space you're working with. I'm running one AB XFL in a built to spec ported birch word double baffle box built by GP audio and an AB VFL comp 3k on it and gets down like nobody's business installed in a 08 Grand Prix. I'm thinking about selling the box and sub and run 2 XFL 12's at .5ohm since I've got the power and electrical upgrades to run everything. I'm just shy of hitting 143db....Parker hit a 145db on his review of the XFL last year.
Yeah man depends on a lot of things. 2 10s would have more cone area
@@ParkerTheBasshead have you made a video regarding mids,highs, tweeters?? Been looking but havnt found 1
I’m planning on ordering one of these subs but where did you get your battery’s for the sub
i did the same thing with my ds800x4 but had a local shop repair it
What size subs you have in that box?
You need a ton of amperage on tap for that big amplifier.. Multiple AGM's or a 100 amp hour lithium. Even if you aren't driving it hard. Realistically, you should have two alternators as well for that size amp.
He has 128ah of lithium
So the 1st amp was damaged in shipping and you damaged the 2nd amp so technically nothing on taramps end aside from some questionable packaging
Is it worth it to spend the extra money for a Salt amp or save and go with one of these?
Shot out..Parker great video and explaining the review of that amp..
Going with the Taramps lol. Great video. Thanks Parker!