When hearing this in the Disney concert hall in LA, with that giant pipe organ, the subtle organ pieces at the end are just divine, you literally feel the sound they make and the music just penetrates you in a way no recording can really deliver. I need to hear this live again.
So beautiful. To me, this movement has always been about passing from life to death, and the middle part is the panic when death is staring you right in the face. Then sublime peace. Hope that doesn't sound morbid as I have always found this movement to be very reassuring and healing.
In spite of the consensus, I do not find this composition to be sad. I find it mysterious, ethereal, beautiful beyond words. Beyond time and space! It's like something made out of stone or ice. Something passing through. One's hair stands on end, but one doesn't know why. It's ponderous - lethargic even. It is slow and relentless. It erodes galaxies. It is the beautiful, terrible, everpresent little snag in the fabric of the universe, from whence hail the creatures of the exterior. The pizzicato march signifies the unstoppable wrath and momentum of Kronos. Where the intro laid the foundation of existence, the march assembles its scaffolds. And when these structures are finally established, it is at last revealed that there was never any malice in this entity. Though painfully alien, Kronos is inherently neutral. To me, the abrupt, heavy braying of the brass section that follows sounds as though Kronos is suddenly turning and looking towards us... but only for a brief moment before he continues his march through spacetime, swathed in rags of nebulae. With each footfall issues forth a new era.
There is much in this world that is hidden from most, generally because they choose not to see. If more people would explore these worlds there would be more harmony in the world.
Any orchestra can play Mars but many will let you cold after Saturn. But in the good hands, it becomes arguably the most awe.inpiring section of the suite.
For all the people who don't know what that funky instrument in the oboe section is. It's a bass oboe. The suite you can use either Heckelphone or Bass Oboe. Both produce that haunting deep sound. It sits next to the English Horn.
Leave it to this masterful aging (RIP) conductor to fully elicit Holst's musical vision of Saturn.....does "old age" sound ever more impending, desperate, unforgiving, and ultimately peace-giving in another conductor's hands?? Thank you Sir Charles!
The official name of this piece may be Saturn The Bringer of Old Age, but I think it deserves another: Saturn The Healer. The first 6 minutes 20 seconds seem like the build up of life's pains and sorrows, but then after that it's like a healer puts their hands on you and mends your soul. It's kept me going through many a hard time, and right now it's helping me through a great pain. God bless music.
The last 2 minutes 16 seconds of this piece are just too beautiful. Those harp figures and the gently rocking brass phrases are sublime and the organ pedal note at [8:31] is a masterstroke.
Watching this, I am reminded of how special a team this sport requires. There is passing when one section bounces a sound to another section. There are punts, and runs. We pay people millions of dollars to run around chasing a ball and yet these teams are just not really appreciated. There is something wrong in the world. Most people scoff at this kind of music saying that it put them to sleep. How can you sleep in the middle of such wonder?
Everyone who's saying "why didn't he do one for earth," I think it might be because earth isn't associated with a Roman god- all the planets in the suite have titles after their names e.g. Mars, the Bringer of War, a characteristic which can only be attributed to Mars the god, and not mars the planet.
Charles Mackerras si se la rifó con los planetas de Gustav Holst, esta versión y la Adrián Boult, Malcolm Sargento y Charles Dutoit son mis favoritas más la de Mackerras
@benofbagend Even more sublime is the organ entry at 7:25 - don't worry if you hardly notice it, it is a pedal note around 16 Hz, most loudspeakers don't render that :)
No, I just heard someone cough. I do hear a faint high-pitched beep-like noise throughout the whole song, but it could just be the sounds of the orchestra echoing around the theater as higher frequencies.
It sounds suspiciously like a watch, but it's in harmony with the rest of the orchestra so could be a kind of echo - easily conveyed by the super acoustics and picked up by the high-sensitivity mikes.
It's an E. The organ pedalboard goes down to the C below that though, and at 8:38, that's exactly what the music does. I was privileged enough to attend a performance of the entire Planets suite in the Cape Town City Hall back in 2011, and when the organist (a good friend of mine) played that note, I didn't so much hear the note, but felt it -- the entire hall was vibrating (by far the most intense aural experience that I've ever had). Once simply can't reproduce that effect on a recording.
Actually 'The Planets' IS a symphony. There's a reason why the first three songs aren't in 'order'. Mars, Venus, Mercury, and then Jupiter in that order, make an allegro, adagio, scherzo and allegro (basic symphony construction), and Jupiter starts ANOTHER symphony, Jupiter, Saturn, Uranus and Neptune. That's why Juipter is the main theme of this suite, because it's the link between the two 'symphonies'.
Coughing/hacking at concerts...,can you imagine how much went on at an old 70's rock concert?!Good thing the music was so loud that we couldn't even hear ourselves talk!Now there's an idea,stacks of amps at a classical concert...,or maybe we could have medical personnel on hand to remove anyone who goes over the "coughing limit!"
If you are going to such a concert, don't cough. At least deaden it by burying your mouth into your sleeve. If you have a cold and are sick just stay home. Holst did not write coughs into his score. People who cough so freely at these types of concerts are not genuine lovers of this work or any other profound work. Sorry, I don't have any respect for people pissing and coughing on a exceptional piece of music in which SILENCE and DYNAMICS are integral. As an audience member be extra diligent to not ruin these performances by your body noises. maybe they could make a special closed off section in a balcony with glass, and speakers placed in the room to hear the concert.Then they can cough all they want. Maybe they could start harmonizing some coughs with the music or make up their own "coughing-composition."
+Das Piano Having attended many concerts in my long life, I have come to the conclusion that there is a secret " National Association of Concert Coughers ". Tickets for concerts are given to the members along with scores of the pieces to be performed. The best places to cough are marked, and choice moments such as the end of a piece or movement where the music just dies away, are much treasured by the Association's members. I kid you all not.
You are doing more bad than good for classical music by blaming the people for caughing. This is only a concert and everybody has a right to enjoy such amazing art, even if they are unhealthy, disabled or kids! If you don't accept just buy a CD, it's as simple as that. Stop making participation in cultural life something only intended for perfectly behaving people. This is a simple discrimination.
Nein. It is not. It is terribly disrespectful to cough, cry (a kid or baby), or make any noise in middle of a concert. One goes to listen to music, not to hear someone coughing at the top of their lungs beside you. At least they should have the consideration to try to deaden the noise by putting their hand or arm on their mouths. Noises like phone alarms or watches are as annoying as someone coughing like if he/she was spitting their lungs.
When hearing this in the Disney concert hall in LA, with that giant pipe organ, the subtle organ pieces at the end are just divine, you literally feel the sound they make and the music just penetrates you in a way no recording can really deliver. I need to hear this live again.
My favourite of The Planets by far. Tear-worthy. Beautiful beyond words.
So beautiful. To me, this movement has always been about passing from life to death, and the middle part is the panic when death is staring you right in the face. Then sublime peace. Hope that doesn't sound morbid as I have always found this movement to be very reassuring and healing.
I couldn't have said that any better myself, the chimes make me think of the last seconds.
Pretty crazy, I thought the same thing.
Bubble Witch 5:46 the angel of death swings his scythe at you,bringing your life to an end.
In spite of the consensus, I do not find this composition to be sad. I find it mysterious, ethereal, beautiful beyond words. Beyond time and space! It's like something made out of stone or ice. Something passing through. One's hair stands on end, but one doesn't know why.
It's ponderous - lethargic even. It is slow and relentless. It erodes galaxies. It is the beautiful, terrible, everpresent little snag in the fabric of the universe, from whence hail the creatures of the exterior.
The pizzicato march signifies the unstoppable wrath and momentum of Kronos. Where the intro laid the foundation of existence, the march assembles its scaffolds. And when these structures are finally established, it is at last revealed that there was never any malice in this entity. Though painfully alien, Kronos is inherently neutral.
To me, the abrupt, heavy braying of the brass section that follows sounds as though Kronos is suddenly turning and looking towards us... but only for a brief moment before he continues his march through spacetime, swathed in rags of nebulae. With each footfall issues forth a new era.
RebeccaETripp k den
There is much in this world that is hidden from most, generally because they choose not to see. If more people would explore these worlds there would be more harmony in the world.
Breathtaking description, RebeccaETripp! Wow!
@@girlfriday1299 Weirdly, I just came back to this video 3 years later, and you happened to comment yesterday, haha.
@@RebeccaETripp 💚💖
Any orchestra can play Mars but many will let you cold after Saturn. But in the good hands, it becomes arguably the most awe.inpiring section of the suite.
I like how chaotic it sounds when the bells and the voilins start to play back and forth
The best piece of classical music of all time
Totalmente de acuerdo.. Es simplemente perfecta...
Me hace llegar a las lagrimas la conclusión de la obra.. Es demasiado hermosa
For all the people who don't know what that funky instrument in the oboe section is. It's a bass oboe. The suite you can use either Heckelphone or Bass Oboe. Both produce that haunting deep sound. It sits next to the English Horn.
,,,I want to listen it again,pulse of spase,cozmos,deep,magnifisent,galactica,thanks
Underrated planet! Love the complexity and the last minute is so ethereal.
Leave it to this masterful aging (RIP) conductor to fully elicit Holst's musical vision of Saturn.....does "old age" sound ever more impending, desperate, unforgiving, and ultimately peace-giving in another conductor's hands?? Thank you Sir Charles!
The official name of this piece may be Saturn The Bringer of Old Age, but I think it deserves another: Saturn The Healer. The first 6 minutes 20 seconds seem like the build up of life's pains and sorrows, but then after that it's like a healer puts their hands on you and mends your soul. It's kept me going through many a hard time, and right now it's helping me through a great pain. God bless music.
The last 2 minutes 16 seconds of this piece are just too beautiful. Those harp figures and the gently rocking brass phrases are sublime and the organ pedal note at [8:31] is a masterstroke.
THERE SHOULD BE A COUGH DROP BOWL IN THE LOBBY!!! LOL!
+Frank Halcomb next time i go to a concert im distributing them myself
I like the music- you can hear a clock if you listen hard enough, like passing time
My favorite from the planets! Fantastic!!! :)
Watching this, I am reminded of how special a team this sport requires. There is passing when one section bounces a sound to another section. There are punts, and runs. We pay people millions of dollars to run around chasing a ball and yet these teams are just not really appreciated. There is something wrong in the world. Most people scoff at this kind of music saying that it put them to sleep. How can you sleep in the middle of such wonder?
I'm sure they're not coughing on purpose. A well designed music hall basically amplifies all of the junk noise.
Supremely beautiful piece of work, makes me tearful every time! Just gorgeous, certainly one of my favourite planets from the suite.
This is fantastic! The pace picks up where I don't expect it, and it mellows out where I'm used to it being more upbeat. Bravo!
Play this at my funeral
Of all his works one of the most sublime.
I,m sure the coughers could'nt help it ........God love them!!!
Excellent! The BBC Philharmonic a truly great orchestra ...
Sublime piece!
I'd rather suffocate than let myself cough during such an epic performance.
sublime interpretation, well-done
Such a music reminds the'50s sf movies i used to watch on TV.
It especially sounds pretty epic while tripping
This conductor knows patience. I like how they take their time with this piece. Some of the other versions I've heard sound a little fast
Everyone who's saying "why didn't he do one for earth," I think it might be because earth isn't associated with a Roman god- all the planets in the suite have titles after their names e.g. Mars, the Bringer of War, a characteristic which can only be attributed to Mars the god, and not mars the planet.
Holst was an astrology nut. These pieces are about the astrological signs, not the planets themselves, so Earth doesn't come into play.
So they have nothing to do with the roman gods?
Will .Freeman Nope, greek gods.
Technically there is a Roman God, the Godess Gaia, and the astrology is loosely associatet with the names of the Planets
Charles Mackerras si se la rifó con los planetas de Gustav Holst, esta versión y la Adrián Boult, Malcolm Sargento y Charles Dutoit son mis favoritas más la de Mackerras
@benofbagend Even more sublime is the organ entry at 7:25 - don't worry if you hardly notice it, it is a pedal note around 16 Hz, most loudspeakers don't render that :)
anyone else hear someone's wristwatch going off around the 6:25 mark?
i thought it was coming from outside my room.
No, I just heard someone cough.
I do hear a faint high-pitched beep-like noise throughout the whole song, but it could just be the sounds of the orchestra echoing around the theater as higher frequencies.
It sounds suspiciously like a watch, but it's in harmony with the rest of the orchestra so could be a kind of echo - easily conveyed by the super acoustics and picked up by the high-sensitivity mikes.
Pluto was discovered in 1931, this was written in 1916-1919 so he didn't KNEW about pluto.
why can't records [of this piece] sound like this, with all the inner voices plain and direct?
It's an E.
The organ pedalboard goes down to the C below that though, and at 8:38, that's exactly what the music does. I was privileged enough to attend a performance of the entire Planets suite in the Cape Town City Hall back in 2011, and when the organist (a good friend of mine) played that note, I didn't so much hear the note, but felt it -- the entire hall was vibrating (by far the most intense aural experience that I've ever had). Once simply can't reproduce that effect on a recording.
all the coughing at the end wtf lmao
Actually 'The Planets' IS a symphony. There's a reason why the first three songs aren't in 'order'. Mars, Venus, Mercury, and then Jupiter in that order, make an allegro, adagio, scherzo and allegro (basic symphony construction), and Jupiter starts ANOTHER symphony, Jupiter, Saturn, Uranus and Neptune. That's why Juipter is the main theme of this suite, because it's the link between the two 'symphonies'.
Turkooyze but the second "symphony" doesn't end in an allegro. Well,I suppose it's just the middle movements that need to be a certain tempo
1 person didn't like???!!! How can anyone dislike it??
Coughing/hacking at concerts...,can you imagine how much went on at an old 70's rock concert?!Good thing the music was so loud that we couldn't even hear ourselves talk!Now there's an idea,stacks of amps at a classical concert...,or maybe we could have medical personnel on hand to remove anyone who goes over the "coughing limit!"
RIP Mr. Mackerras
Giant is going,light every,fluts very good.
bass oboe
Rather poignant to know that Sir Charles died just a year after this upload. He was not well at the time of the performance. Sadly missed Aussie/Brit.
Rest in peace, Sir Charles! You've made my day😊.
@diegosgc I know. Had to be a mistake.
Bonne représentation de Gustav Holst Saturne et Neptune
If you are going to such a concert, don't cough. At least deaden it by burying your mouth into your sleeve. If you have a cold and are sick just stay home. Holst did not write coughs into his score. People who cough so freely at these types of concerts are not genuine lovers of this work or any other profound work. Sorry, I don't have any respect for people pissing and coughing on a exceptional piece of music in which SILENCE and DYNAMICS are integral. As an audience member be extra diligent to not ruin these performances by your body noises. maybe they could make a special closed off section in a balcony with glass, and speakers placed in the room to hear the concert.Then they can cough all they want. Maybe they could start harmonizing some coughs with the music or make up their own "coughing-composition."
Ray Tutaj Jr cough cough
I was JOKING
I hear you about the coughers. At least they paid for admission (presumably) which is more than I can say for viewing this on YT.
David Floren thank you for putting a positive look on negative comments
Who's first trombone? I thought the girl was principal trombone in this orchestra.
haha yeah but pluto wasnt even discovered when holst composed the planets. Im wondering why he didnt do one for earth?
Planets are talking with one another.
@dartter50 Coughing is a natural thing... I wouldn't call them idiots but yeah... Should be no phones, no food, and absolutely no coughing HA!
love this movement!
is it just me, or is there a ton of coughing.
4:25 the opening of the lost ark
Dat bass oboe tho
Is the whole audience that sick.
On every movement of the suite (from Proms 2009) Everyone just starts coughing like crazy when the song is over
You have my name!
@panthrdude Nice one
iF yOu HaVe A cOuGh ThEn StAy At HoMe, HoW rUdE oF yOu
saturne is good
@diegosgc must have been Pluto since its no longer a planet >.>
Saturn the bringer of coughing
why cough?! was there any smoke in the air? If you have a cough or cold just stay at home! - absolutely self-indulgent!
+Das Piano Having attended many concerts in my long life, I have come to the conclusion that there is a secret " National Association of Concert Coughers ". Tickets for concerts are given to the members along with scores of the pieces to be performed. The best places to cough are marked, and choice moments such as the end of a piece or movement where the music just dies away, are much treasured by the Association's members. I kid you all not.
+somyod2u haha! I agree
It is "Saturn - Bringer of Old Age..."
Das Piano il
that bass oboe is FIT
I thought it was an English Horn, same thing?
Is it me or are there more people coughing in this than usual?
Holst new from the start that pluto wasn't a planet!
Willy
You are doing more bad than good for classical music by blaming the people for caughing. This is only a concert and everybody has a right to enjoy such amazing art, even if they are unhealthy, disabled or kids! If you don't accept just buy a CD, it's as simple as that. Stop making participation in cultural life something only intended for perfectly behaving people. This is a simple discrimination.
Nein. It is not. It is terribly disrespectful to cough, cry (a kid or baby), or make any noise in middle of a concert. One goes to listen to music, not to hear someone coughing at the top of their lungs beside you. At least they should have the consideration to try to deaden the noise by putting their hand or arm on their mouths. Noises like phone alarms or watches are as annoying as someone coughing like if he/she was spitting their lungs.
FFS STOP COUGHING
Why is JUPITER "blocked in my country?" We saved your asses in WW2!!
ZOMG TWO TIMPANISTS? :D
Holst wrote it like this. Amazing, isn't it?
sounded like a batman theme at points
The people coughing are so annoying 🤐