Can WE Afford This SHOCKING asphalt bid?
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- Опубликовано: 5 фев 2025
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For over a year I have complained about our gravel parking lot. As soon as I bought the property I had someone here giving me a bid. We got that quote and it's more than I thought.
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Send toys for our toys for tots drive to Mike’s Car Store 8379 State Rd., 64 Georgetown Indiana 471
Just to let you know asphalt should be for a parking lot at least 5 in thick compacted.
Will send some toys when I get home in 2 weeks. Check out comment I left in comments for few options to help cut cost down. Take care
@@MrJustice00 no it should not! Blacktop is like a sponge. To thick and it will leave impressions for vehicles sitting in the same spot for prolonged periods of time.
Hi Mike, would you accept a certified cheque or PayPal for the toys? I have no idea what toys children would like to have.
As someone who has worked on commercial properties for over 40 years I would encourage you to place the drainage receptacles in an area with less foot traffic, to avoid slip and fall claims. Look at the walking paths, and move them just a few feet out of the walking patterns. Also, look at putting concrete up front, and asphalt toward the back service bay areas. If this is too expensive, AT Least have concrete drainage paths within the asphalt, so that the water runoff does not erode the asphalt, which it will do! In addition, look at how the water will drain at the end of the property. Open water drainage will erode the dirt at the back of the property. Finally, every 5 years or so, you will need to seal the asphalt, to extend its life.
John K - Good to know.
Many people on the internet claim to do something for years but give horrible advice which proves they've never done it. You are the exception. Great advice!
Find ya some good Gypsy's
I'll be honest with you, assuming your not hiring the most advanced expensive team in ur area, concrete vs asphalt isn't a huge price diff now.
80 to 100 yard asphalt.
100 to 120 yard concrete.
Thats not dramatic in terms of how much cooler and better concrete will always outperform asphalt in parking lot conditions.
In less than 10 years, he will be redoing that top level of asphalt. So add that in there too (assuming he's still there and wants it to look as nice as possible).
In addition, in hot weather, you need to seriously consider what you put on that asphalt. If you need to jack something up on asphalt, esp if its relatively fresh, first 6 months, theres a chance at ruining it.
Concrete, you have a max waiting period of 3 weeks in super cold conditions, otherwise usually a week is completely drivable with anything.
If you install it correctly, it'll look decent still in 20 years.
I think you should do the front end that the customers see first of all and delay upgrading the area behind the building. Sometimes you have to divide a project into stages so that you can spread the cost over a longer time.
Frank is eating too many beans at 5:14. 😂
When we repaved our parking lot in TN we paid $22K. That was 28,000 Sqft with 2 new drains and pipe to the sewer drain in the street. That was about 6 years ago in West TN. We live in Delaware now and got a quote a few months ago to repave the driveway at our house. The driveway is about 9000 sqft and included nothing but a fresh 2" layer over the existing which isn't in terrible shape. The quotes came in at $14,000 on the low side to $19,500 on the high side. After seeing the quotes the old driveway started looking much better.
Mike, I had my business property done in concrete because after doing pavement a few times, I found that concrete is a one and done deal and on the long run it comes out cheaper. I would do the concrete in the heavy traffic areas and do black top on other areas to save money and as time goes on, continue to complete concrete in sections until it is all done. By the way, in a few months these contractors will be dropping their prices too. I would shop around for a lower bid. You can purchase those prefabricated sections yourself and have an excavator install them. There is always someone cheaper. Try your local Portuguese guys because the work is usually superior at a no haggle price.
I was quoted $80K to do my driveway in my old house back,east
That’s not a bad quote. You’re actually getting a good deal. If you lived in a large city as I do, you would probably be looking at 120k.
Don't wait too long as those bids will go up dramatically.
Be thankful that there are government programs to help small businesses. There are good things that local and state governments can do for your business.
You are not out there struggling alone.
One thing to keep in mind regarding drainage is where the water is being directed. You alluded to moving the water toward the back of the property down to the RR. Just be aware railroads are extremely sensitive to anything that might upset the tracks. I suspect the railroad only holds an easement (they might own the land in fee) but they will enforce their rights feverishly. Just keep that in mind.
That’s a reasonable quote in this day n age.
Easy way to secure the door drill out the door frame put in a piece of conduit so the deadbolt goes in the conduit
The improvements to your parking areas will add value! Whether you keep that building when you upgrade to the new Chevy store or decide to sell… Definitely a bonus once you put it on the market
Market shifting
Glad to hear about paving! I think that gravel drove me crazier than it did you. Just kidding but I have never liked a gravel lot or driveway. When married my wife almost 18 years ago she already owned our house and driveway was you guessed it, GRAVEL. One of first things I did was pave it and yes was not cheap but your figure was astounding. Thanks for the video always enjoy them. Oh and yes it will enhance the value a lot.
I guess in Indiana, building codes don't matter? Where I am at, you would need an engineer to submit a site plan along with a storm water pollution plan. The asphalt with removal of the stone, installation of DGA, Binder, Leveling and the top coat would be a little over 3 per square foot. The Engineer would be around 20k and the drainage on your property would be an easy 35K. The 10-inch pipe you suggested is a waste of money, get an engineer and do it right. Your grand total will be around 100k. If you're doing it for less, you are missing something.
If you want the asphalt to last, remove all the rock, bring in Type 2 and compact it. Those pre-fabbed concrete (not "cement") things are called "vaults".
That is actually a good price. I was thinking more like $100,000 to $150,000 considering I had to do my 0.1 mile driveway that is for the final quarter of a mile two car widths wide and it cost $20,000 ten years ago. With the increase in oil prices (what asphalt is partly made from) since then I was afraid with the drainage and base you need it would have been substantially more. Guess it is cheaper in the midwest than you can get in the northeast. By the way, from experience, if the furnace is in bad shape just replace it. Otherwise, you will be fixing it every winter. Good luck.
I was thinking the same cost as you. I know that here in Louisiana it would cost 65k just to have the prep work done with all of the drainage piping.
I was thinking in the $100k range. Then again, I'm sure that location has to do with much of it.
@@cward1954 Exactly
I guessed 90K. Thought 65 was cheap.
Don’t let the hater’s get to you guys love channel wish you guy’s nothing but the best 💪
Just pave front area where customers walk and do back area later.
He wants room to keep the cars off the rocks.
You definitely need to do it. You have allot of high end cars on your property often, no one wants to have to go have their car detailed after leaving your lot. P.S. I spied a beautiful yellow Lamborghini on your lot yesterday - I wanted to stop by and peak at it, but was in a hurry.
$65K way less than I thought...book it.
$4.22 psf with site work is a gift. Dont mess around too much
I would look at haveing the drainage installed and doing just the front part of the Parking lot. The biggest issue is that apron with throwing the rock.
I would be crying in the background but I know that those updates may invite more customers cuz those rocks are a pain in the wazzo 😢😢😢😢. Hopefully the drainage system don’t fail
Chevy Dude & Mrs. Chevy Dudess keep the faith! We’re all pulling for you 👍
Building improvements - the gift that keeps on giving.
DUDE YOU FARTED WHEN WALKING NEAR THE DUMSTER CHECK IT OUT LOL!!!
i would do the parking lot with a oil seal / sand coat it ,the county has been doing that here for years and the roads hold.up way better than just pouring asphalt on them ..i believe its called bitmaul ? oil
Get metal rim all around doors, that will help with security. I’d move toys to a storage locker. Gfffconsidsr tint or reflective glass tinting.
Hey Chevy Dude! On your ac you might want to get that done asap! New laws go into effect jan 1 and units are going to go up at least 20%. I work in hvac sales. Make sure to discuss that with your hvac tech!
Have you thought about a semi-permeable hardscape paving? I agree with the previous suggestion about drainage away from the building. I don't know how it would work out for a commercial structure but a French drain around the building would seem to be a good idea too.
Usually the 'green' solution cost more Green
@@williamhaynes7089 yes but where it'll drain the water quicker it will last longer before it needs to be redone, so that will offset the extra upfront cost.
Cheap; you’ll love it and look professional etc. they use a special gravel base either a number 7 something like that a smaller compacting rock. Seems Ike you already have that. Good investment
65k with all the drainage is fair ..better off having same company doing the drain system .other person can complicate it of not done correctly for the asphalt guy...more headaches ..stay with one company to do it all ...also just like with all improvements get 3 estimates ..then go from there to see what the numbers are first b4 just jumping on one bid....and an estimate is just that ..after 3 estimates ..negotiate the price like the 65k ..tell contractor you will have him to the job for 60k...
Easy to spend someone else's money
I would have thought that it all would have cost around the 100,000 dollar mark.
I didn’t think that was too bad. My place of business got a quote to convert a section of road maybe a mile long from caliche to chip seal and we were quoted like $500k. Don’t know if that’s because it’s an oilfield business or what but I was shocked. Lol. For all the work they would be doing with drainage and whatnot, I’d say it’s worth it brotha! 🤘
I'd pass on the drains and just have it graded away from the building
@5:01-5:04 the blue tube guy waving at the camera … 😮😂
I would strongly suggest metal doors and frames.
Wouldn't matter. Its the intent. If you have no door at all and obviously closed for day only those with criminal intent will enter. Don't forget there are windows. Doesnt take much to break them enter. Best thing would be security monitoring(ADT for example)of place which obviously has a monthly subscription.
I think you need to ask Frank who he thinks is a good contractor for the excavating work. The guy hired recently knows a lot about selling cars, buying cars and things and seems as if he is a head of you at times. Got to respect him that way and seems a little older and business experienced. Don't know who he is or you, but are getting yourself in deep with business repairs and car buying.
Frank's going to have to work some OT! Best of luck on the paving and pre-paving work Mike...!
Did they mention using drain through type pavement? Maybe that is not a thing there, but I've seen it here in NH, and it's pretty cool.
Can you dig trenches that will divert water from the building and drain to the back of the property ?
Hello Chevy Dude. Are you sure you want asphalt instead of concrete?
Best of luck getting the upgrade done without going broke.
Time to get rid of those lights in the office
I am in the Paivng business and that price is good. The only question I have is the basins, will there be a lateral connecting to each one and have the water exit out in one area? Or are they just capturing water and leaching into the ground?
I think they're gonna run the storm drain line to the edge of the property by the tracks, although by law in general you're not supposed to direct your runoff onto other's property (the railroad might not appreciate their right of way and roadbed being soaked like that over time).
Actually doesn't seem like too bad of a quote with the site work needed. We live in Central NY and our Driveway is about 6k sq ft and cost $15k. We didn't need any base material brought in, drainage added, and needed very little prep overall.
You can call Stumler Excavating he is a local company that could do the drainage work
Why concrete catchbasins? They make plastic ones that should be plenty strong for the job. Are the using plastic pipe, or did they bid for clay tile?
Smart move, those rocks and gravel also trap so much moisture that they rust cars out from underneath when parked on smh
7:48 oh geez, I need to change the ringer on my office phone, I thought I had a call coming in.
I would throw cement on my line ready vehicles and asphalt all the way down it’s just not worth having to maintain the asphalt throughout the years cement more clean and nice especially where your cars will be displayed at
I am a member of a charity and we needed to get our large driveway resurfaced and it was well over $100,000. I get that no one is going to work for free but over $100k for a non-profit charity.....not possible.
$66K is low. That is not bad at all. I would look into concrete and not just asphalt.
Wow.... not bad. Thats cheaper then a new truck nowadays.
Think of it as 65 less windshields ;)
Just saw you at Dan Cummins in Paris but I didn’t wanna interupt you to get a picture:/
I can appreciate securing the doors and deadbolts etc - but just from an outsiders perspective, i feel like those XL Windows next to the white doors is a glaring issue... If someone was motivated to break in and the door was giving them trouble its no big deal to just break out that giant window and climb inside
Bank roll it ! Tax deduction plus grant 1st year will add up to 14,000$ (tax refund + grants)
I would do the heating and air and doors and get 5 grand grant now. Then find a prep team like you said next year and then asphalt and get the next 5 grand.
Putting in dry wells to deal with the pooling water may cost as much as the paving.
Do concrete lasts longer and cooler in the heat.
Sounds like to me replacing a cracked windshield is cheaper. You also need heat unless you can get by with portable electric units.
65K doesn't seem that bad actually... did they put a laser transit on it? Impossible to say from pictures but they can't just regrade and swale? It's amazing what a 2 or 3" difference can make moving water.
Chevydude it was cool seeing the different times for the property and 65 thousand for Asphalt seems a bit much
How did you go back in time on google earth like that I can’t figure it out
As you know it costs $$ to make $$. Wishing you the best.
Have you considered chip & seal? It’s not asphalt, but once it’s sealed you can sweep the gravel off.
Called Tar and chip. It's better then stone obviously but it's not blacktop. Blacktop will really brighten that place up and make it look completely different and better. I left him a comment on some options to save money.
Get a chip seal quote it’s 10x cheaper then asphalt and it delivers the same quality
Check put a quote to do it in concrete. Definatly make you feel better about pullin the trigger
Wait one year. Economy will be failing. Inflation will be giving way to deflation. Construction will grind to a halt. Prices for jobs like this will fall like a stone.
i was a little off, i said 100k
Read Below for some Options...I have owned a paving and sealcoating company for 20years and I'm 4th generation in Blacktop. Blacktop is Exspensive unfortunately... The price for 2 layers, Binder and top isn't bad. The drainage is probably a decent chunk of money as us pavers usually don't like installing drains and even though we can do it we dont like to.. I'd recommend finding a drain company to put the drainage in and a option is to just have 2 inches of binder blacktop laid and in a year or 2 then have the top coat laid. That will save you a good amount now and if anything settles it will be taken care of when you have the top coat done in the future. Most builders just have binder put down and many home owners call me to seal there driveway (binder) and didn't even need the top coat nore did they know they had binder. Good luck!
Take the 2 door and window Dont put bilndas up change them into car garge for q little indoor show room
Band aid the furnace and get it later... asphalt and drainage is a need... doors are an absolute need... also see if they will allow you to document everything on the asphalt and door installation... it should get good views like the Goonzquad...
I actually thought that it would be worse.
Just make sure there is a digsafe done before they start digging
Mike price the precast boxes the HD PVC IS CHEAP GET A LOCAL GUY WITH A MACHINE TO DO THE SITE WORK ORDER THE LARGER STONE YOUR SELF LIKE YOU DID IN THE FRONT OF THE PROPERTY YOU WILL SAVE 6 7 K, also I’m a new wholesale dealer was a contractor for 40 years in NYC I KNOW YOUR a knowledgeable car person I enjoy your videos maybe we can do
Business in the future. Good luck😊
You should consider permeable concrete.
I was thinking with the cost of materials these days it would be north of $75k
You'll be repairing/replacing that asphalt regularly. Start saving and concrete it. In the end you'll save money.
Would a domino's driver taking a leak behind the building interest you?
Yes it would....he's taking a 10-100
Well, at least it's better than 10-200
Look into concrete that maybe cheaper and easier to maintain.
Good 👍 job.
Look into ADS drain basins! I’m in California but I can provide a quote if needed or ask your contractor for it
Have you actually compared the cost between asphalt work and just concreting the place?
Personally, I have no clue as to material costs, Etc. but would be interesting to know how much difference the cost for your project would be.
Also you have a lot of maintenance with asphalt. It will have to be resealed and re stripped every year because of the heavy traffic, or it will start to fall apart. Soft spots will form and have to be patched and will look bad. I never go to target because it feels more fancy and I feel like I'm being over charged. I wonder what effect it will have on used car sales if the building and lot look to nice. I feel like when I pull in on a cheap gravel lot with a beat up building, maybe there is a good deal to be had. I expect the new car dealership to be fancy, because I'm also paying a new car fancy price.
"New Construction" in my area, which is probably what you could make a play on for the bid is roughly $6-$8/sq ft. so that would be about $125,000 plus the costs of the drains.
HVAC, come on man, use a couple more mini splits. you cant go wrong with them
I think you should have seriously considered concrete too. asphalt today isn't much cheaper than concrete. Concrete looks so much better, idc what anyone says.
Its probably an extra 10 bucks per yard at most nowadays to install concrete vs asphalt.
Also, it really is easy. The biggest difference being, asphalt guys need tons of big heavy expensive equipment.
Concrete guys can literally get that job done with a bobcat, dumptruck, about a 4 guy would be ideal but it can be done with 3.
The smaller the team, they will simply cut it up into small sections to complete and make it so each day they do 10 to 20 yards (or possibly more, whatever they can reasonably do) you can get the job cheaper by asking only for it to floated and brushed. So there will be less physical finishing work needed thus cheaper and still look great.
I say go concrete.
They can build up either the ground or make it the concrete thicker to ensure that no water will sit on that concrete and it will all drain away from the building.
ill buy some feet pics from Frank :) but Metal doors and frams like Robert said below is a great idea
What is the name of the key fob person in Utah?
Welcome to owning a business. Next year when you get the additional $5k, you'll find out that project will cost $10k more than this year due to inflation and labor costs.
That’s not a bad price at all I’m excavation crew for a paving company
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I am going to guess free thickness that you should check every three minutes with a rod while they lay it to do that entire lot front to back is going to be 70,000
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what am a kia? i never heard of that brand here. is it Hungarian?
It looks to me that you need some new treated framing done and maybe use anchors to fasten the bottom plates to the foundation. The drainage is important to build into the lot. What if you did the asphalt in stages?
If he has smaller sections done at a time he will end up spending more in the end. And you get a better job , grade and seams wise to have it done at once. I gave him few tips how he can save a chunk of money since I have been paving all my life.
Lucky you’re not here in California. It would be over $100k easily.
That's yearly rent for a studio in The Bronx
That’s high AF
Road trip lol I do Hvac.