Not gonna lie even after 13 years of learning the piano I still make these beginner mistakes from time to time (maybe except the excessive arm movement) so thank you for reminding my dumb self to be more mindful of these things XD Also that natsuki photo got me wheezing XDD
LOL as a teacher that spends SOOO much time reminding my students not to collapse their joints, it never occurred to me that it's the reason my octaves played with RH 4th finger sound insecure sometimes - I have a deformed finger that can't curve at the last joint in that position
Thank you! I did correct the second and third on my own but i have no clue if i do the first. Glad this is from a pro because this should convince my brother that his wrist posture is terrible. As well as flat hand and fingers
Bad habits only build bad habits. If something hurts, then stop for a while and look what you're doing. Great video! I hope you do a video for more advanced tips!
I just started taking the piano seriously recently, and I'm so glad RUclips recommended this video to me. This is a good time to take notes on these problems for me. Thank you for this awesome video! And thanks to RUclips recommendation algorithm for this as well. Keep it up, I'll be looking forward to your future videos!
As a person who's a self taught pianist, this is hella informative and will definitely take note and be applying this when I play the piano! 💕 You my friend earned a new subscriber 😎
Aah yess, this video was bound to happen since you're always so enthusiastic for the self-taught community ;) even with "basic" things like the ones you talked about here, you still manage to explain all of them in a way that I'm sure everyone will understand why they're issues in the long run. I'm always impressed by your videos and how you present the content (and your channel growth), keep it up man!! :D
great stuff. looking forward to part 2. would also love to see some explanatory videos about some techniques like trills, tuplets, polyrhythms, etc. somewhere down the line. just as a suggestion. keep up the great work.
Thanks so much for these tips!!!! I just got my first piano, and haven't had time to develop any bad habits(other than sitting posture), but you showed me what to be conscious of when i am practicing so i can keep avoiding these problems.
Brilliant video, thank you. By any chance, maybe you could talk about how to play trills faster and cleaner? I'm always having trouble with those in my pieces and it drives me crazy...
I never knew about the collapsing fingers problem, I tried fixing it and I can go way faster now, which is useful as I've been learning Liebestraum, but I don't know if i should cut my nails as I keep my right hand nails long for classical guitar, but they make it harder to curve my fingers on piano
Please make a video for thumb's problems for passing throught 1,2,3, 1,2,34,5 in the scale as example. I have to find a way to continue practicing scales, arpegios vs me thumbs having Osteoarthritis... 😢 Thank you.
Thanks for this video! I think I have alright posture when I play, but I'm trying to help my mom learn. I don't remember learning this anymore, so this is super helpful :)
Please make more helpful videos on piano exercises and methods for people with weak wrists and for people who are visually blind or can't visualize which affects their sight reading and piano improvement as there are many people i know who are passionate and hardworking but still they feel depressed . Just a suggestion from a new subscriber.
This video was very helpful! thanks for the tips especially for the collapsing fingers. Sometimes I do that and from now on I will fix it. Also I'm looking forward to the next video 😄
This was a great vid! im also selftaught but im not doing most of these things sometimes i flat the pinky depends on what pattern but your vid give us a reminder to look and care more if it happens (coz sometimes it does xD). Other mistakes im doing is, sometimes i tense too much at my lh up, especially when i play hard/fast jumps after a while i just tense too much up and theres also the flying pinky thing its pretty common as i heard but hard to fix. That are the mistakes which i can think of rn. ( coz you were asking to write it in the comments) anyway have a great day!
These tips are very helpful to us self-taught beginner pianist. I really liked these tips because it will help me too rebuild my errors. Especially the Number 1 error 😁. Make more of content that are like these Watt. I'm waiting for the pedalling tips. Thanks for these tips Watt! 💕💕💕
Ah collapsing fingers. I hate my old videos because of how my hand were always collapsing lol. And thanks to you for giving me some of these tips before this video, I managed to see my errors and slowly fix them, especially the excessive arm movements. But thanks to this video, I have a more clear understanding of what you meant.
Thanks for the video!! I'm currently self teaching myself piano and I recently wondering why my left hand could do major scales faster than my right. This video made me realize my pinky + ring finger are collapsing with my right hand, now I have something to work on xD
ayee a pianst of over a decade practiced with long nails for more than half of that time i do infact play with collapsed fingers other than for recitials and exams which is when i cut my nails as low as i need to. I would not recommend it but as far as i can tell, if you had a well built foundation its not the biggest problem out there other than the nail clicking that you eventually never notice anymore.
Hey, hey! Watts up man! This video although is made for beginners, it really gives amateur and learning pianists a little reminder! Ty for the advices sensei! 🔥🥰
I think it starts with what I talked about in the video with building the strength and feeling while in a less stretched position, which allows you to then retain some of that structure even when you stretch out because it's then basically all in the last joint to keep some of that curvature.
As a self taught pianist i'm glad I have not had any of those problems (yay!) However I do struggle a lot with dexterity, e.g. arpeggios and big jumps with my left hand. I do not know how to correctly address arpeggios, my fingers always seem to do the wrong thing and become stiff and I can't find the sweet spot. Edit: just found 2 of your two videos who address those things haha
Me: **do mistakes* Also me: _blames the chair_ Very informative video, Watt! I have experienced these issues as well. The most helpful one for me is probably the excessive arm movements. I never realized that one until now. Thank you
Dang so it was all chair kun's doing👀 thanks for the tip, I had to confirm whether it was me or the chair height the entire time. Looks like chair-kun was being too low....
I have a transfer student who has been playing for some 12 years (not consistently though) and she still plays with collapsed fingers. Whenever I try to correct her posture and make her play with curled fingers she feels tension and pain in the hand/wrist. Any tips?
My brain: We are going to use his tips and tricks. My hands: No i dont think i will. All jokes aside i need some excersises to help me get hand independence. If you know something that might help me. Please let me know.
i teach a teen who transferred to me when her first teacher left. She had to go t hand doctor because her hand hurt her badly. I noticed she flaps her wrist before she drops into the keys.every time she starts a piece or section...I think her teacher did something like that. Now it hurts her to play thirds .She loves the piano so don’t want to nag or discourage her. What shld i recommend to help her. Thank you for your kindness and suggestions and care!
What I tell my students now who have technical issues and are passionate about the piano is that in order to keep getting better and progress musically, technique at some point must be fixed in order to prevent injury and increase musical capacity. However, I also stress that it's important to keep enjoying the craft and not get burnt out from drilling technique for hours and hours. I think the best solution is to say practice technique for as long as you can every day when you are focused and your mind is clear, then when it starts to get dry, move back to doing other things that are more enjoyable while being cognizant of what you just practiced. I think in your case it might be a bit more important to fix the technical things first since she already seems to have a hand issue, so I'd say to remember that the biggest discouragement to playing the piano is an injury that prevents you from doing so, so I would hope that she's more understanding when it comes to this (especially having already needed to see a doctor). Hope this helps!
I'd refer you to my old video on how to practice runs and use some of the techniques there: ruclips.net/video/7van4buJ2fg/видео.html. Basically work on different rhythmic variations and slowly increase the speed. It'll take some time, but developing technique on the piano is a marathon, not a sprint!
Do you have any tips on building finger strength, because my pinkys do not naturally curve properly. The furthest joints only curve after the middle joint has curved and I think in attempting to correct my flat fingering I’m over correcting and stressing my tendons (it feels bad) almost like I can either be flat fingering or claw fingering and not the in between. Any exercises or stretches that would help correct this would be super appreciated!
I would first try holding down all 5 keys in a neutral position and posturing in such a way that all your fingers are naturally curved. Once you have the structure, try adding and subtracting a bit of force to work that posture and to ingrain the proper curvature into your fingers. It may be helpful to do "finger pullups" on the edge of the keyboard as well. A lot of finger strength comes as a result of just playing, so take it slow and easy!
Based on just a cursory look online and talking to a teacher who's studied it and has engaged with people in the Golandsky institute, I think it's worth knowing about because it expands the options available for technical development. I will note that it seems like pianists who get the most mileage out of the technique are those who are recovering from injury (anecdotally), but overall I think a solid foundation that doesn't overburden or stress any part of the hand/wrist is the most important, then tailoring those approaches to fit each specific individual. A bit of a vague response, but TL;DR: it depends on what's best for each person. Hope that helps!
Hi, I've been learning unravel covered by animenz and I was wondering if you could look over a recording of it that I've done, it's definitely not perfect (lots of errors where I press wrong notes etc but it's an honest performance which I think represents how well I can play the piece) but I would like to have some feedback on it as I currently don't have a teacher due to Covid. If you can then tell me how I can contact you and send the video, if not then no worries, thanks for the great video!
When I was young and switched teachers after a few years of playing, I had to relearn how to do staccato, pedal, play with less wrist, lift the fingers, and arm positioning when sitting. It took a while and lots of patience from Mama Watt to make smol me practice everyday XD
@@WattKeys Well I am practising like doing the arpeggios and chords, but is there an other technique that I miss, like scales etc? For example the playstyle of Fonzi M is nice, but what kind of techniques do he use?
Ahhh collapsing fingers make me so frustrated when I see anyone doing them. I used to play like that myself until my fingers got strong enough u_u Great video Watt, I'm sure this will be helpful to so many people!! :D
That's actually funny I rly thought I don't do it but I looked back at my vids and I actually do it quite often it just happens sometimes without knowing it I always have it in mind to not play with flat hands but looks like I wasn't careful enough. Gotta be a lot more careful/mindful from now on
Glad that someone make this video, no offense but it's quite disgusting to see people playing with collapse finger .whenever i see someone playing like that I'll be like ''EWWWWWW!!!!' lmao
Great stuff dude! I often notice self-taught pianists having these issues and finally have a quality video to refer to them.
Keep it up Wattt
I gotchu bro XD
Not gonna lie even after 13 years of learning the piano I still make these beginner mistakes from time to time (maybe except the excessive arm movement) so thank you for reminding my dumb self to be more mindful of these things XD
Also that natsuki photo got me wheezing XDD
Buffsuki ftw
This video attacked me in 3 different ways
Goteem
I'm a self taught pianist and this was very helpful! I had the first mistake (collapsed fingers) I'm gonna start working on improving that.
3:55 physics is probably the last thing I would expect in a piano video
This video called out to me spiritually.
LOL as a teacher that spends SOOO much time reminding my students not to collapse their joints, it never occurred to me that it's the reason my octaves played with RH 4th finger sound insecure sometimes - I have a deformed finger that can't curve at the last joint in that position
Thank you!
I did correct the second and third on my own but i have no clue if i do the first.
Glad this is from a pro because this should convince my brother that his wrist posture is terrible. As well as flat hand and fingers
Bad habits only build bad habits. If something hurts, then stop for a while and look what you're doing. Great video! I hope you do a video for more advanced tips!
Super articulate! Thanks for the tips!
Thank you watt for making this video. Looking forward to your next stream
Ngl, this video very helpful for me. I am honest. You deserve more subs, views, likes, and anything.
Bro your channel is growing so fast, not too long ago you were celebrating 500 subs now ur at 4k subs. Just amazing.
That was SOOO HELPFUL THANK U!
I just started taking the piano seriously recently, and I'm so glad RUclips recommended this video to me.
This is a good time to take notes on these problems for me.
Thank you for this awesome video! And thanks to RUclips recommendation algorithm for this as well.
Keep it up, I'll be looking forward to your future videos!
As a person who's a self taught pianist, this is hella informative and will definitely take note and be applying this when I play the piano! 💕 You my friend earned a new subscriber 😎
You can tell I've make these mistakes when u see my videos ehe
Thank you, very helpful video
We will watch your carrer with great interest
saw this video... IM COMING!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Aah yess, this video was bound to happen since you're always so enthusiastic for the self-taught community ;) even with "basic" things like the ones you talked about here, you still manage to explain all of them in a way that I'm sure everyone will understand why they're issues in the long run. I'm always impressed by your videos and how you present the content (and your channel growth), keep it up man!! :D
This video is gold. It made me realize a lot of thing i need to correct. Keep it up with the great content Watt!!
Love the videos helped me a lot thank you 🙌
I’m loving those videos! Keep that up man :)
Yeah I’m Subbing, thank you for the tips😂🙏🏾 also have you made a video on how to build endurance in the forearm?
great stuff. looking forward to part 2. would also love to see some explanatory videos about some techniques like trills, tuplets, polyrhythms, etc. somewhere down the line. just as a suggestion. keep up the great work.
Thanks for the suggestions!
I'm spamming ur channel around cause u deseve more subs
XD
@@WattKeys thank you a lot for the videos💙
"Perfect practice makes perfect" more like "Correct practice makes perfect"
Thanks so much for these tips!!!! I just got my first piano, and haven't had time to develop any bad habits(other than sitting posture), but you showed me what to be conscious of when i am practicing so i can keep avoiding these problems.
I'm glad I saved you the headache of having to relearn XD
Brilliant video, thank you. By any chance, maybe you could talk about how to play trills faster and cleaner? I'm always having trouble with those in my pieces and it drives me crazy...
As a self taught beginner this has been really helpful thank you for this
FISIKS LOOL. nice tips man!
Such a great pianist/youtuber i hope a lot of people found out about ur channel.
I never knew about the collapsing fingers problem, I tried fixing it and I can go way faster now, which is useful as I've been learning Liebestraum, but I don't know if i should cut my nails as I keep my right hand nails long for classical guitar, but they make it harder to curve my fingers on piano
VRY MUCH HELP :)! thanks
this channel honestly deserves all the views, likes, and subs ugh
Please make a video for thumb's problems for passing throught 1,2,3, 1,2,34,5 in the scale as example.
I have to find a way to continue practicing scales, arpegios vs me thumbs having Osteoarthritis... 😢
Thank you.
Thanks for this video! I think I have alright posture when I play, but I'm trying to help my mom learn. I don't remember learning this anymore, so this is super helpful :)
Great video ty
Man right off the bat I have been called out xD. Jokes aside, really informative video, will take note👍, especially on mistake no.1
great cover!!1
Please make more helpful videos on piano exercises and methods for people with weak wrists and for people who are visually blind or can't visualize which affects their sight reading and piano improvement as there are many people i know who are passionate and hardworking but still they feel depressed . Just a suggestion from a new subscriber.
This video was very helpful! thanks for the tips especially for the collapsing fingers. Sometimes I do that and from now on I will fix it. Also I'm looking forward to the next video 😄
This was a great vid! im also selftaught but im not doing most of these things sometimes i flat the pinky depends on what pattern but your vid give us a reminder to look and care more if it happens (coz sometimes it does xD).
Other mistakes im doing is, sometimes i tense too much at my lh up, especially when i play hard/fast jumps after a while i just tense too much up and theres also the flying pinky thing its pretty common as i heard but hard to fix.
That are the mistakes which i can think of rn. ( coz you were asking to write it in the comments)
anyway have a great day!
Thanks for the suggestions Sayuri!
thank you so much fot this video WattKeys!!!
No problem Rafarofa!
Dude, you're actually so professional hahaha, this vid is chock full of great information!
These tips are very helpful to us self-taught beginner pianist.
I really liked these tips because it will help me too rebuild my errors. Especially the Number 1 error 😁.
Make more of content that are like these Watt. I'm waiting for the pedalling tips. Thanks for these tips Watt! 💕💕💕
I'm still figuring out the best way to film the pedaling video, but hopefully I'll be able to make it sometime in the summer!
Love the tips Watt, keep it up!
Ah collapsing fingers. I hate my old videos because of how my hand were always collapsing lol. And thanks to you for giving me some of these tips before this video, I managed to see my errors and slowly fix them, especially the excessive arm movements. But thanks to this video, I have a more clear understanding of what you meant.
I'm glad! Good luck with practicing Keanu!
Thanks for the video!! I'm currently self teaching myself piano and I recently wondering why my left hand could do major scales faster than my right. This video made me realize my pinky + ring finger are collapsing with my right hand, now I have something to work on xD
I'm glad this helped!
ayee a pianst of over a decade practiced with long nails for more than half of that time i do infact play with collapsed fingers other than for recitials and exams which is when i cut my nails as low as i need to. I would not recommend it but as far as i can tell, if you had a well built foundation its not the biggest problem out there other than the nail clicking that you eventually never notice anymore.
thank you, the tip 11:14 will actually really help me xd. great video and advice as always.
Ayyy thanks dude!
Hey, I subbed your channel 😊 Where do you have the cool looking background from you PC Desktop from, if you don’t mind me asking? Stay healthy
I dont even play piano but still watched through the whole thing, nice video👌
Hey, hey! Watts up man! This video although is made for beginners, it really gives amateur and learning pianists a little reminder! Ty for the advices sensei! 🔥🥰
No problem XY!
lessons and exercises on left hand patterns plz and also appreg
I am a beginner and I don’t know what digital piano to buy ? I have to buy a decent one because I will keep it for along time.
awesome video! Could you possibly address how to manage collapsing fingers when your fingers are more spread out?
I think it starts with what I talked about in the video with building the strength and feeling while in a less stretched position, which allows you to then retain some of that structure even when you stretch out because it's then basically all in the last joint to keep some of that curvature.
As a self taught pianist i'm glad I have not had any of those problems (yay!)
However I do struggle a lot with dexterity, e.g. arpeggios and big jumps with my left hand.
I do not know how to correctly address arpeggios, my fingers always seem to do the wrong thing and become stiff and I can't find the sweet spot.
Edit: just found 2 of your two videos who address those things haha
Thx so much good lucky :))
Me: **do mistakes*
Also me: _blames the chair_
Very informative video, Watt! I have experienced these issues as well. The most helpful one for me is probably the excessive arm movements. I never realized that one until now. Thank you
Lol chair-kun is always the traitor XDDD
Yes parttttt twooooooo💓💓💓
Omg Watt! This vídeo is perfect for me hahahahaha. Thank you for that :D S2
No problem Kai!
Since we are on the "Self-taught Piano" tips, may I ask which are the best/recommended resources for Self-Taught individuals?
On RUclips I'd recommend Josh Wright, LivingPianos, Heart of the Keys, and Nahre Sol.
Oh and myself of course :)
Dang so it was all chair kun's doing👀 thanks for the tip, I had to confirm whether it was me or the chair height the entire time. Looks like chair-kun was being too low....
Just what I was looking for. You need to stop stalking my search history lmao.
I have a transfer student who has been playing for some 12 years (not consistently though) and she still plays with collapsed fingers. Whenever I try to correct her posture and make her play with curled fingers she feels tension and pain in the hand/wrist. Any tips?
Learning the piano feat. memes lol, great video again Watt!
Gotta do something to keep the people watching lol
can I let my finger collapse on black notes like for example pieces with awkwardly placed notes?
My brain: We are going to use his tips and tricks.
My hands: No i dont think i will.
All jokes aside i need some excersises to help me get hand independence. If you know something that might help me. Please let me know.
i teach a teen who transferred to me when her first teacher left. She had to go t hand doctor because her hand hurt her badly. I noticed she flaps her wrist before she drops into the keys.every time she starts a piece or section...I think her teacher did something like that. Now it hurts her to play thirds .She loves the piano so don’t want to nag or discourage her. What shld i recommend to help her. Thank you for your kindness and suggestions and care!
What I tell my students now who have technical issues and are passionate about the piano is that in order to keep getting better and progress musically, technique at some point must be fixed in order to prevent injury and increase musical capacity. However, I also stress that it's important to keep enjoying the craft and not get burnt out from drilling technique for hours and hours. I think the best solution is to say practice technique for as long as you can every day when you are focused and your mind is clear, then when it starts to get dry, move back to doing other things that are more enjoyable while being cognizant of what you just practiced. I think in your case it might be a bit more important to fix the technical things first since she already seems to have a hand issue, so I'd say to remember that the biggest discouragement to playing the piano is an injury that prevents you from doing so, so I would hope that she's more understanding when it comes to this (especially having already needed to see a doctor). Hope this helps!
15:16 lmfao quality content
Only the greatest
Nice video! Can you give me advice? I can't play fast moments where i must use only 4th and 5th fingers.
I'd refer you to my old video on how to practice runs and use some of the techniques there: ruclips.net/video/7van4buJ2fg/видео.html.
Basically work on different rhythmic variations and slowly increase the speed. It'll take some time, but developing technique on the piano is a marathon, not a sprint!
@@WattKeys Thank you!
Do you have any tips on building finger strength, because my pinkys do not naturally curve properly. The furthest joints only curve after the middle joint has curved and I think in attempting to correct my flat fingering I’m over correcting and stressing my tendons (it feels bad) almost like I can either be flat fingering or claw fingering and not the in between. Any exercises or stretches that would help correct this would be super appreciated!
I would first try holding down all 5 keys in a neutral position and posturing in such a way that all your fingers are naturally curved. Once you have the structure, try adding and subtracting a bit of force to work that posture and to ingrain the proper curvature into your fingers. It may be helpful to do "finger pullups" on the edge of the keyboard as well. A lot of finger strength comes as a result of just playing, so take it slow and easy!
ayyyyy heyo watt definitely going to be watching and taking this to heart
I think I don't make these mistakes because I play claw on a controller
Hi can you one day make video about how to arrange anime song or (song)? It could be helpful for beginners.
What do you think of the Taubman Approach ?
Based on just a cursory look online and talking to a teacher who's studied it and has engaged with people in the Golandsky institute, I think it's worth knowing about because it expands the options available for technical development. I will note that it seems like pianists who get the most mileage out of the technique are those who are recovering from injury (anecdotally), but overall I think a solid foundation that doesn't overburden or stress any part of the hand/wrist is the most important, then tailoring those approaches to fit each specific individual.
A bit of a vague response, but TL;DR: it depends on what's best for each person. Hope that helps!
@@WattKeys Thanks for the quick response! It does help :)
amazing vid btw!
Me before the video: I'm pro
Me after the video: i wam pwo
I think literally every finger of mine is collapsing lol
Good video!
hey watt would you give out some piano lessons to look at how people youre subs are playing and point out there mistakes?
That's what my streams are for
@@WattKeys i mean shere you look at a person playing?
Wait whats the time at your place, because its mot saturday here anymore :c
Hi, I've been learning unravel covered by animenz and I was wondering if you could look over a recording of it that I've done, it's definitely not perfect (lots of errors where I press wrong notes etc but it's an honest performance which I think represents how well I can play the piece) but I would like to have some feedback on it as I currently don't have a teacher due to Covid. If you can then tell me how I can contact you and send the video, if not then no worries, thanks for the great video!
Post on youtube bro
Damn I'm surprised I never have any of these issues and I have never taken any lessons I just watch tutorials for songs and nothing else!
When you were younger were there any bad habits you picked up and needed to break ?
When I was young and switched teachers after a few years of playing, I had to relearn how to do staccato, pedal, play with less wrist, lift the fingers, and arm positioning when sitting. It took a while and lots of patience from Mama Watt to make smol me practice everyday XD
🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥
You’re the goat, any tips to play anime songs on piano?
That's a very broad question haha. Do you have a specific thing in mind?
@@WattKeys Well I am practising like doing the arpeggios and chords, but is there an other technique that I miss, like scales etc? For example the playstyle of Fonzi M is nice, but what kind of techniques do he use?
ps. does the hanon link not work? for me it just said "There is currently no text in this page. "
Hmm I'll look into it. The link seems to work for me, so maybe I'll just throw in an extra comment under that line
Ahhh collapsing fingers make me so frustrated when I see anyone doing them. I used to play like that myself until my fingers got strong enough u_u Great video Watt, I'm sure this will be helpful to so many people!! :D
Thanks Rama!
That's actually funny I rly thought I don't do it but I looked back at my vids and I actually do it quite often it just happens sometimes without knowing it I always have it in mind to not play with flat hands but looks like I wasn't careful enough.
Gotta be a lot more careful/mindful from now on
I literally never realized I’ve had collapsing fingers for 8 years ☠️☠️
Glad that someone make this video, no offense but it's quite disgusting to see people playing with collapse finger .whenever i see someone playing like that I'll be like ''EWWWWWW!!!!' lmao
im self taught lets see what ill learn
I did learn from it i did the arms thing
Hahaha, I'm a classical pianist, and have been playing for 18 years and I still collapse my fingers xD x( rip
Not all the time tho
I was taught to not move them too much, because it's too tiring. It's so much less tiring to just use my wrist.
This guy soon gonna be twoset violin for piano
Lol one can hope XD
@@WattKeys bro lol i play guitar not piano but i still watch u so.... that means ur content is cool.(i do have a keyboard but it doesnt work anymore )
Ive been making these mistakes even 3 years after practicing 🤣
Im moving forward till I destroy my keys
"the finger needs structure to perform well" uwu??
Rookie mistake is not watching Wattkeys
XD
Bro, I'm the 666th like
First lol