MediEvil | Sir Daniel Fortesque - A Character Study
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- Опубликовано: 9 сен 2024
- Eventually an idea surfaced to have Dan be a pompous failure in life whose resurrection was his one shot at redemption. This distinctive plotline gave Dan’s character a much-needed purpose outside of the bare-bones good versus evil trope typically found in games of the PS1 era.
This video contains spoilers for MediEvil, MediEvil 2 and MediEvil: Fate's Arrow.
MediEvil was originally developed by SCE Cambridge Studio and published by Sony Computer Entertainment with the 2019 Remake being made by Other Ocean Interactive.
MediEvil: Fate's Arrow by Chris Sorrell and Jason Wilson
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I always liked Sir Daniel Fortesque that despite his cowardice and hubris in life, he was at the very least brave enough to back up his bravado and lead the charge against Zarok's demon armies. XD
That's been kind of retconned by the comic unfortunately.
@@jeggsonvohees2201 yeah I'm not a fan of the comic, kinda ruins a lot of the show dont tell aspects of his personality, I just pretend it dosent exist as it really uneaded for the games story to work.. in fact I think it hinders it in some aspects
Plus, having him be a coward who would at least try to back up the mouth he always ran really helps that resurrected personality of his. He avoided getting into real danger but didn't shy away from it, he had talent but never trained to capitalize on it, and being resurrected was his chance to prove that he could be the same hero he told stories about being.
With the second game, it's him being the protector against dark magic. He's the hero, now, and now he gets a chance in death to live a genuine live as that hero. It won't be as narratively intriguing, but it's still fun to see him as the almost fully-realized hero. At that point, the narrative just needs to switch to showing him being the inspiration for others.
The comics definitely undo that feeling by having the already-realized hero sacrificing himself to an unlucky stray arrow in the first volley, when having him be a coward who never saw real combat still willing to actually lead the charge without any coercion or chicanery proves he always had it in him to be a true hero.
You know what i never really thought about that. I just bought the remaster and beat it cause it looked cool and i saw an old Caddicarus video praising the original. Most of the time when characters talk shit and boast, the second its time to prove themselves they fold. Yeah he immediately got taken down but he still at the very least tried to back up what he said.
Yeah, I liked the idea that he was a braggart that, when push came to shove, tried to back it up. He died in the first charge, but you can't really call him a coward.
"I'll show you!" And show them, he did. Sir Dan got the chance of an after-lifetime and he proved himself a true hero. Such an inspired concept and design for a character that isn't seen nearly as much in games today. Seeing the resurgence of lovable and identifiable characters from the PS1 era like Crash, Spyro, and Sir Dan has been quite enjoyable.
Ghost of The King of Galloemere - "GOOD GOD FORTESQUE, WHAT HAPPENED TO YOUR JAW???"
Sir Daniel Fortesque - "It feel off 💀😭😭"
St. Elmo's Fire would be a great song for his character.
He became a hero out of spite. Now that's the type of hero I can get behind.
It's a common literary theme in many stories where someone is 'Living a Lie' where they have a falsehood as part of their base identity. Often the stories are about coming out with the truth and making up for the deception. But in this case we see a story of Living up to the Lie. Which is much rarer in media of all sorts. This generally happens, as it did here, when someone boastful gets the wind taken out of their sails and is first proven to be a fake. Then they come back, sometimes after training, sometimes after getting their lucky token or in this case after being dead, and proving their detractors flat wrong. Proving that it wasn't empty boasting, it wasn't just some idiot running off at the mouth that they are THAT capable.
Think of it like someone who gets lucky in a fight and then gets a reputation for being a good fighter. Then they get confronted and back off and back off, then when cornered they lose. Their reputation is shattered, but they go through the effort to become that good fighter and in a similar circumstance everyone expects another loss, but they win. That's living up to the lie.
And that is what Dan did.
Kinda reminded me to the movie Rango, now that I think a little more about it. Still a rare trop, but one that can ve very well executed
Sir Fortesque was my original "redemption arc" hero and I still love him for it. He starts out as a very believable person, out for himself and not as clever as he thinks he is but with at least the *kernel* of a great man, and dies in the process of trying to live up to it... and then when the universe punishes him for the effort, he pulls on his big-corpse pants and gets to work in spite of himself. He was never a great fighter, never a fearless champion and never a selfless guardian in life but in his second chance he becomes a versatile and competent (if visually ungainly) warrior, faces down his fears despite OBVIOUS terror and puts everything he is on the line not simply for the legend but because he genuinely wants to do right by his countrymen... and in many ways a true hero is one who had to *become* so by his own choices and actions rather than just being so by nature.
MediEvil 2 sort of feels like a victory lap to me: yes, the plot is more than a little cliche and yes, the motivation is somewhat thin but it was really nice to see Dan back in the saddle actually being the storied hero of ages past. The "fish out of water" angle gave it just about enough spice that I could overlook the weaker elements and I can honestly remember thinking something along the lines of "You done goofed, Mr. Palethorn. You're not a patch on Zarok."
Praise be the Hero of Gallowmere. Even though he became a real hero after his death. Talk about better late than never. It was such a shame that the Medievil 3 never happened since 2 ended in a cliffhanger. Hopefully the will remake Medievil 2 someday so at least we will have both these gems for the current and next gen.
It's only a cliffhanger if you got all the chalices. For some reason, they reversed the endings, so that the good one requires you to miss a chalice.
For so.e reasonth3 dev team were determined to make Kira the villain in the 3rd one and reveal she never lo ed dan and one used him, undoing a major part of the 2nd game.
@@JStryker47 i always belived the all chalices ending was dan geting back to his original timeline and defeating paletorn there
Death was paradoxically the best thing to ever happen in Sir Dans life. Not every day you get a second chance quite like he did.
Thank you for using clips from the original and not just the remake. Let’s never forget the gem that was.
The PS1 cutscenes are gorgeous and cinematically superior to the PS4 cutscenes imo. I still get chills watching that opening scene with Zarok as he passes through the waterfall. Combined with the music its masterful.
@@strictlyfantasy I do hope you will do further videos on this game series, maybe even a “what could’ve been “video like you did for soul reaver.
@@strictlyfantasy Also the glass demon in the PS1 version vs PS4, sounds so much cooler. The PS4 glass demon sounds like a generic monster, but the PS1 Version sounds very other worldly if that makes sense. You get the feeling that the PS1 Glass Demon is no ordinary monster.
I did love Sir Daniel, and I do completely agree with you on the time travel: it also ruins the sequel because it robs Daniel of a somewhat happy ending, crossing over from dark humour into misery and condemning him to a cycle of loss.
The game's world was supposed to be a "noble but dark" world where heroism can save the day but it takes a toll, aa shown in many of the denizens of the hall of heroes; by making Daniel's story a time loop it robs him of his deserved reward and makes his sacrifice magnitudes higher than that of the other heroes.
"It has risen again!"
Daniel: *I get no respect, NO Respect!*
When Sir Daniel was born, the doctor turned to his mother and said "I'm sorry we've done all we can do, he pulled through"
You know, I've never understood why everyone in-universe gives Sir Fortesque such a hard time; yes, being shot in the eye in the first volley isn't a glorious death, but he was still leading the charge into the battle, even though he knew he'd be running the gauntlet of Zarok's archers to do so. It wasn't like he was trying to run away, hide, lead from the rear, panicking or otherwise acting in a cowardly manner; he just had a fatal bout of bad luck whilst doing something brave. So why so much scorn?
It's not his fault at all, but King Peregrine's. The heroes and gargoyles aren't really mocking Dan for his actual failure, but for the undeserved status and reputation he got post-mortem because the king couldn't let the truth be known.
It's not at all fair, but I DO understand why they'd be disdainful about it... especially the heroes, who were all larger-than-life figures who carved their own legends.
I mean he was in the vanguard of the army, which particularly in the first battle would have been an immense honor
@@MrMortull The real lesson of MediEvil is that historical revisionism sucks
Dan's backstory, at least his original backstory from the first game, always reminded me of the old Hungarian fairy tale (collected by the Brothers Grimm) about a tailor that kills seven flies at once with a single swat of a towel, and considers this such a feat that he makes himself a belt with "Seven In One Blow" embroidered on it, and through a series of misunderstandings (surely it means seven _men,_ right?), cleverness, and luck, he ends up becoming a hero without ever actually engaging in any combat.
[Edit: I accidentally a word.]
I love this unconventional choice of hero, a failure out to live up to his false legacy. The way those Gargoyles talk is very reminiscent of how the ghouls spoke in Neil Gaiman’s the graveyard book. I wonder if that was part of the inspiration as another work of Neil Gaiman’s is on the shirts of one of the pictured employees, Morpheus AKA Sandman. I know I suggested Morrigan and Flemeth and I still recommend them as they are two of my favourite characters but another good one would be Morpheus lord of dreams. Also I really love how there’s a really wholesome story despite the dark stuff about redemption with this game. Thank you for introducing me to this game and story, I can’t believe I knew nothing about it till you introduced me, same as Kingkiller Chronicles, I knew nothing but you got me interested in them both. Great taste sir!
Thanks, nice to see other people out there with similar tastes in fiction. I enjoyed Dragon Age 1 and I may explore those two characters in the future. Never heard of the Sandman graphic novel, but I'll be sure to check it out at some point too.
@@strictlyfantasy no problem, recommend if you do Flemeth and Morrigan you should look up Kieran and Mythal as without spoiling too much, they add a lot more dimensions to the characters. I prefer 1 to Inquisition but I love the Mythal arc and how it picked up the mother/daughter (possibly grandson) from Origins. Also a game inspired by Legacy Of Kain has this breathtaking but short radio plays I promise you won’t regret, honestly I’d prefer you checked this out to Sandman as it’s shorter and I love LOK radio plays are 1 of Vampires ruclips.net/video/7a_X398izmE/видео.html of Revenants ruclips.net/video/Z-I22-j0THg/видео.html of Wraiths ruclips.net/video/pRiBekYJscY/видео.html of Banshees (my personal favourite) ruclips.net/video/bgOZI1uDPIw/видео.html of Ghouls ruclips.net/video/VEjYcBbdEKY/видео.html of Liches ruclips.net/video/LZ_XVdGKRHY/видео.html of Wights ruclips.net/video/6jL0BmQXE9E/видео.html this is only 1 minute but awesome he’s an undead poet ruclips.net/video/ebr8t_mz8p8/видео.html it’s called Deadhaus Sonata and honestly if I could I’d throw money at it but I love how it crafts a unique world that pays homage to LOK.
I'll never forget this game. As kid playing this, it scared me at some points but I remember the humor Dan injected which kept me trekking on. Undoubtedly a game in my top 10 of all time.
When I was 10 it was scarecrow fields that creeped me out to a brief halt .
As much as I love MediEvil 2 and Fate's Arrow comic, probably a lot of things would need to be retconned in order to continue Dan's story. Or I guess we can just consider everything post MediEvil 1 to be set in parallel universes, similar to what Crash Bandicoot 4 did, so our hero can just enjoy the happy ending he got in the first game.
Considering he used the time machine at the end of MediEvil 2, I don’t think it needs to be retconned away. Fates arrow however definitely need to go.
Imagine if MediEvil 2 kept the Victorian theming, but threw out the time travel, and instead put on a theme of seeking approval.
Those stories had to have come from _somewhere,_ right? Sure, there were plenty heroes to draw inspiration from, but would they pale in comparison to, _for lack of a name,_ an idol! The Knight of Knights, the pinnacle of true heroics…
A well-respected lad who refuses to give respect to Sir Fortesque, unable to let go of his embarrassing past, and brushing off his redemption as “another stroke of luck.” And no matter what Daniel could say, what praises he could sing, the idol would avoid even looking at Sir Fortesque, muttering doubts in silent reply.
With another magician on the loose with a familiar spellbook, Daniel Fortesque could take this rare opportunity of chance resurrection to prove himself, to prove to his idol that he is worthy of attention!
He would dedicate this next tale to…to…Only to realize, after countless seeds of planted doubt, that he wouldn’t earn it. Not ever, because maybe he’s _right._ He’s still clumsy, he can’t hold his own in a sword fight, and he…was just about to defeat his opponent. All it took was a hint of hesitance, and Daniel lost, once again. As the bad guy got away, Fortesque was able to reconstitute, all but a dejected heart, without a drive to further chase the foul magician in admittance to defeat.
…only through his friends, allies that stuck through his adventure so far, caring for his wellbeing, they let him see that he doesn’t need the approval of some self-absorbed jerk always keeping his brown noses close to his ears to put you down, even sabotage you.
It’s after that, does Daniel Fortesque eventually find a rematch with the bad guy, vanquishing yet another foe for his legend, and instead of doing this for the approval of (an apparently wimpish and cowardly) idol, he dedicates this triumph to those who would already appreciate his good deeds and spirit of gold.
@@palecaptainwolfkayls8499 I really love that idea honestly, I hope that they pull a FF7 Remake and make Medievil 2 a complete reimagining
Dan is one of my all time favorite characters. He's funny, has a great and memorable design, and he's also flawed, which makes him instantly more interesting. Him having to redeem his past by living up to the stories he told to get to the top makes a great journey for him. In the end of the first game it's so rewarding to see him give that little smile before fading away from the world of the living once more, finally able to rest easy as the hero he was claimed to be. The second game is really fun, but storywise it's a bit lacking.
I would welcome part 3 with open arms. It could finally bring Dan's journey to a satisfying conclusion.
As much as I liked Ressurection, I didn't like how overly cowardly it made him. In the original Dan still lead the charge, even if he was just a braggart. That was something I always liked about it. How Dan MAY have actually have proven himself to be the hero he bragged he was, but was killed before he really had the chance. But he still was on that path regardless.
Fate's Arrow screwing that up is a bit of a tragedy though, but I have never heard of it until this video.
Id be sacred to after i saw what death is really like and one your just back in the realm of the living. What did he see on the other side? Something he didn't like i suppose
@@xXphantom9030Xx He was in the hall of heroes. But the other heroes knew the truth of his death and made fun of him for that. So it wasn't hell or anything, it was simply being put in a honorable place you didn't actually earn.
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Hmm. The hall of heroes. Is it a mystical place where the rightous judge the worth? Is it in control in the kingdom and they decided who goes in? If it is situation A i would say after death. He is either being punished for being unworthy or instead of ascending his soul is just put out like a flame. No afterlife for him as his punishment. If its situation B i imagine spirits of heroes before would just bully the shit out of him and turn him away. Then the fear would be just fighting alone. Named a false hero. Id imagine the pressure of failing is immense. In the first game i think its justifiable for his fear. By the second he should have been a more BONEified hero.
Great overview of Dan's character. I agree that the comic's story and ending don't do Dan the justice he deserves. So I think it's safe to consider it non-canon until a game references the events. Hopefully if we get a MediEvil 2 remake they either give Dan a more satisfying ending or setup a sequel. Because Dan travelling through time to potentially fight other villains sounds brilliant XD.
I hope that they'll pull a FF7 remake for Medievil II by giving the story and characters a complete overhaul
Honestly I like to think on the 'time loop' thing that, instead of it being him just possessing and taking over the body permanently and thus putting him on the path to actually go out and do the heroic deeds in the first game, instead Daniel possesses him for the moment, the first arrow finally letting the knight rest and sending him back to his own time, while sending this new Daniel on his own quest.
Kinda like the idea of you going back in time to make yourself do an action you were supposed to do, or being the person who caused what happened to you to keep your life on track (Think Fry from Futurama when he goes back in time to stop Nibbler, just to end up knocking himself back into the cryo-chamber.)
Me personally, I never liked seeing Dan as someone who was a straight up prick in life, moreso someone who was just incredibly incompetent and in over his head in a time where war was only known in storybooks and wasn't a true reality, so in that regard the comic was a bit of a tough read. It makes you want to root for him as an underdog more as someone who was always a punching bag rise up to the challenge, rather than someone who kicked dogs and using celebrity status to fuck random hoes off the street. Great video, I have no idea why I haven't seen it before, Dan's character is what MAKES these games
In general, comic tie-ins to media does not even matter or was even canon in the grand scheme of things
On the whole time loop thing... It doesn't sound like it trivializes Dan's choices at all. I'm hearing it this way: since he had gotten himself into that situation to begin with, the only responsible thing to do is to close the time loop and relive his death indefinitely. I think it's very brave of him to see the ultimate fate of his undeath and accept it by making his first noble sacrifice all over again. It's got a bittersweet irony to it.
Brilliant video. I also dislike what I'm hearing about Fate's Arrow because it sounds like it undermines the original merits of Dan's character before he became a true hero. As much of a braggart as he was, he still led that charge into battle and inspired the soldiers on his own merits. Having future Dan step into that role undermines even that and just turns him into a figure without redeeming qualities. I'd like there to be some redeeming qualities to living Dan, because that's where we see the potential for him to become a hero in the first place.
Yeah. Not to mention, this mechanic is originally seen in the movie 12 Monkeys. Which would go on to heavily influence the plot of Soul Reaver 2. It was bleak enough to see it happen to hardened protagonists, but in my opinion, it would be a little too heavy-handed of a conclusion to Dan's arc; A character meant to carry some degree of comic relief.
EDIT: Worth nothing that 12 Monkeys' plot mechanics were directly inspired by the movie La Jetée.
Plus, it isn`t even a good example of a stable time loop. There had to be a Dan to lead the charge first to turn into the Dan who returns back in time. It would made far more sense, if SkeleDan had just disguised himself as an old knight, talked to human Dan and inspired him to lead.
@@aureliodeprimus8018 That would've been incredibly sweet, ngl
They could always do a star trek style loop, with majora mask mechanics, to break himself out of the loop. Each loop new areas get unlocked and new clues help Dan figure out what to do next. Have him come to realize what has happened about half way through the game and start actively trying to break the loop.
I think it would be cool and simultaneously hilarious if Dan traveled to Nosgoth and consults Kain for how to prevent his cycle of death in his timeline
Shame about Dan not being very good with words any more, 'cos he'd have to draw on all the skill he had in life as a minstrel to keep up with Kain at all.
The abyss has been unkind indeed 😆
I played the Resurrection version on PSP first, and I personally am quite fond of the goofier elements in that one, but both versions of Sir Dan are wonderful. A gem of a tiny, significantly underutilized IP.
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I never fond dying in the first volley something to be ashamed of. He was a leader who bravely led from the front. And paid the ultimate price for their victory.
It’s a clever backstory really. His original fame is a fabrication, but he is given the chance to earn it post mortem. It’s a great character motivation.
The game that started my love for gothic horror games and zombie games all at once.
Also the way how Sir Daniel is portrayed kind of reflects the reality of Knights in the Medieval period, often they were either very violent, pragmatic and brutal people and also a lot of people back then got jobs they really shouldn't have based on lies and corruption unlike how they are portrayed in the Romance Novels of the later periods.
Not a big fan of the fate's arrow thing but I'm glad Dan is getting some love. I hope we get a remake of the second game at some point.
One of the most inspirational skeletons I've ever known. Due to my name I know lots of skeletons and love them all. Sir Daniel has captivated me the same way as anyone else and has become a part of this list.
Daniel has to be my favorite protagonist ever.
His character manages to be simple yet complex and the redemption arc he goes through (being the entirety of this game) is really inspiring for me
always loved th eidea of a false hero having to rise up and save the day while being mocked by real heroes
This is a weird idea, but it might be better to go for a new protagonist in a new Medievil III. Dan's character arc is kind of completed and it would make sense for a new hero to pave the way.
They originally gonna have a new protagonist in Medievil II with Dan's descendant, but it was scrapped
I have both the original PS1 copy and the PS4 remake. One of my favorite games of all time.
Who says a undead skeleton can't be a hero let alone a good guy. Sir Daniel Fortesque breaks the all the troupes and charges in to save the day and defend the innocent.
The thing I always loved about Sir Daniel Fortesque is that He was the Underdog, He wasn't the strongest nor the bravest, and that's honestly what made more tangible than the other Heroes that He encounters in The Hall Of Heroes who are basically all clichéd Hero Tropes and I like the fact that time and again He proves that being a true Hero is not about never being afraid, it's about swallowing your fear in order to do what must be done and NEVER letting your critics deprive you of your finest Hour
I dunno, I hear Fortesque being referred to as a fraud and coward when he was alive, yet he DID lead the charge into battle. Sounds pretty courageous if you ask me. And no amount of bravery will prevent an arrow to the eye from taking you out.
It might have been courage born of ignorance, but it still is courage. Most likely Gallowmere when Dan was alive was very peaceful place so athletically gifted and heroic-looking individuals could make do with shows of skill and tall tales nobody bothers to check. Dan definitely knows how to use different weapons.
This is it. This is the video that convinced me.
I have a tradition where every New Year's Day I play a videogame in an IP I have never touched before, and for this year I chose MediEvil (specifically, the remake) after seeing your video here. And it is certainly excellent! Turns out the original game was from the same developers (and music-composers) as Frogger, released the year before, which I played extensively as a kid!
Thank you so much for sharing your opinion about Fate's Arrow!! I also have the same opinion, but I felt like I was really able to fully express how frustrated I was to my friends because they weren't really into the series, or were just neutral about the comic! I love Sir Daniel's story so much and to have it be retconned in the comic really grinded my gears! I'm glad to see I'm not the only one who has this opinion about the comic haha. To be honest, I would be perfectly content with only the first game haha. It has a perfect beginning and end!
Medievil 2 could have really done a lot with a theme of “The end of the age of heroes” which would challenge Dan’s identity as a Hero, and let him find his way in a more modern era.
I would actually argue that Dan accepting his fate to repeat a cycle of dying, resurrecting, becoming a hero and going back in time to do it all again indefiinitely doesn't undermine his character growth. Yes, it puts him in a hopeless situation, but it seems that's the point. Courage is doing something despite knowing that the odds are against you, and Sir Dan selflessly allowing himself to be caught in a time loop for the sake of everyone else sounds like a courageous thing to me. Insane, yes, but if that's what it takes to save Gallowmere and the rest of the world this fella doesn't seem to mind
To answer your question, I think Sir Dan is an excellent protagonist for kids. As I've mentioned before, _MediEvil_ was the first action/adventure series that I fully completed on the PS1, and I still look back on it fondly. Dan's goofy cowardice is entertaining and relatable, especially with how much heat he gets from NPCs. His annoyed jawless, "get on with it," is always very endearing.
Great title for a ten-year-old budding gamer. Also, thanks for the video! I learned a lot, especially about the early designs. ^^
Great video!
Gotta say though I never read Fortesque’s character from the original game as a liar or a coward; he is after all literally leading the charge against Zarok despite being Captain. I always saw him as just a regular soldier who became captain of the knights in peacetime so he’d never had the chance to prove himself in battle until Zarok invaded and then he embarrassingly died before he could really do anything. 100 years later he’s resurrected and finds history has made him into a hero so he determines to un-live up to the legend and finally defeat Zarok
This isn't a study, it's a summary.
Sad thing is I only played the 1st Medieval and had no clue all of these other one's existed until watching this video. I liked this game because of it's Halloween theming and it somehow found a special place in my heart when I was a child. I did later descover the reboot but never played it because money was tight, thanks for sharing this I had no clue this story even went anywhere after the 1st game.
Excellenent video. A case can be made from what you have presented here against arbitrary sequels and how they can do more harm than good if poorly planned.
Man I love all your videos. You just made me realize how important these games are. What they have taught me without me even noticing it. I appreciate your efforts and I hope you have found gratification making all this. Thank you for everything, specially the Legacy of Kain serie. If you ever had the idea of making more topics you have someone here ready to pay close attention.
Ghost of The King of Galloemere - "GOOD GOD FORTESQUE, WHAT HAPPENED TO YOUR JAW???"
Sir Daniel Fortesque - "It feel off 💀😭😭"
How did I never know about that comic?? Thank you for this. I agree with your commentary on it but it's still very cool to see.
First playstation game I ever enjoyed but damn it is hard to get it for playstation nowadays glad RUclipsrs like you give us some extra information for the nostalgia
No amount of training will protect you from an arrow to the face.
I swear... probably the best, most memorable game i have played on PSX way back in like 99/00.
If they had ended it at 1, it would've made a lot more sense, and been better for his character arc as a whole I think. I never knew they'd made a second one, so that's cool information, but honestly, I feel like they mother fucked themselves by installing him in the loop, he could've easily corrected the situation there, in the past I think.
There is the possibility that, you know... Hero Dan replaced Past Dan just to be killed again so that the course of history can stay unchanged, then the body swap is magically undone (possibly by the Fairies and the Witch) so that the one doing the whole MediEvil story again is still Dan from the past. In that way, the redemption arc is basically preserved because it's the coward underdog Dan the one defeating Zarok as intended. Or at least that can happen once Hero Dan is finally free from that timeloop that forces him to die and travel back in time again and possibly go back to his actual place in time.
I keep telling myself this could be the plot of a MediEvil III we shall never get.
I only saw the commercial for Medivel 2 once and had no idea what was going on, however, that one scene towards the end of it of Dan carrying Keeya always stuck out in my mind. I don't know if the commercial or the tv made the scene darker than it actually was (Or the hd of modern era making it lighter) but it always stuck with me of how haunting it is. Dan slowly walking carrying her body while surrounded by those red lights was honestly terrifying to me as a kid, but it sure made me remember it even if I never remembered the name.
This game was absolutely amazing 👏 ! My late twin sister loved this game!!!! Thanks for covering this game dude! Thanks for all these excellent videos Happy Christmas 🎄🙂👍
Despite his character design, he was a surprisingly sad, yet heroic character.
A character who's story is of perseverance and redemption. Truly a great story wrapped up in a goofy skeleton man. Sir Daniel is such an underrated character. You could totally make a MediEvil movie, and have it be compelling as all hell.
Said film is very possible if the recent PlayStation Productions logo is anything to go by
It would be awesome to see Sir Daniel Fortesque enter the world of Castlevania!
Beef up his move set and drop him in Soul Calibur...(hes' got plenty of unlockable weapons.)
The original game lives deep inside my heart rent free. Thank you for making this video!
One of my favorite characters from history.
I like how him being charismatic was his strongest ability in like and he loose that in unlife thanks to being a jawless skeleton, making him have to work with skills he lacked in life.
That being said I think Fates Arrow went to far by making him a cowardly cone man and taking away any chance of happiness for him. It should have been him as a knight during peace time that was too eager to become a hero and ended up dying because of it. We see that the one hero that actually praise him is the one who knew him in life and was the hero at the same battle where Dan died and the undead troops you summon near the final see Dan as their fearless commander they knew in life.
a petty noble who died an ignoble death, comes back from the dead to battle an evil sorcerer and demons to save the land, uses time travel and winds up stuck in a ever looping circle of fate.
I feel like kain has a kindred soul in Dan, that or his full name is Kain Fortesque
Man that was always one of my favorite games when it came out.
I spent days playing that game.
This is amazing 🥰 I love the idea of spreading out and covering more franchises, especially those from the early gaming era!
I absolutely love medievil when it first came out and it's still one of my most played and fav games, would absolutely love to see a new one in the vain of rpg and loot mechanics added with that lovely unreal 5 game engine, oh a guy can dream, there's no game I can think of that can be compared to medievil, in fact I'm going to restart it again seeing as I've already unlocked that awesome unlockable, would love to see some kind of new game plus thing added, really love your run down of you vid, thankyou heaps for reminding me how great dan is
A Medievil RPG would be awesome.
I would love a remake of the second game, perhaps with a few tweaks to address some the issues you mentioned and make Dan's character a bit more on par with the first game. I'd also love to see a third game come to life that further explores what could have been an interesting MediEvil meets TMNT: Turtles in Time type of thing. And I still think Tim Burton should pick this up and adopt it, make a movie or short series of it and complete the circle.
Medievil will always have a special place in my heart.
I remember renting this game as a kid, unfortunately I didn’t have enough time to finish the game but it was still fun from what I remember.
I love the video, but Sir Dan was not in a time loop. At the end of the story of Arrows fate - he’s recalling his past to a young journalist in the modern day in disguise.
The entire MediEvil franchise is a very light-hearted romp of an adventure game, and honestly I don't mind how the comic portrays his time loop. I think it's a silly way to sloppily tie things together, yes it could be done with more tact and forethought but we're literally talking about Sir Daniel Fortesque... Tact and forethought are the last of his worries.
I’m not familiar with the other games you’ve done videos on, but I’ve always loved Medievil and so found this video of yours and I really enjoyed watching it. I can’t wait to watch more of your content, you have a great presentation style! I love hearing about the real world character design as well as the in game lore - you’ve really given a great overview of who Sir Dan is and why he was created in the way he was. Keep up the great work!
Thanks. You should check out Legacy of Kain if you love great stories. The dialogue in those games are on another level. The best there is in gaming in my opinion.
I actually think Fate's Arrow makes Dan's arc stronger. Sure, it's not entirely about redemption on the surface anymore, but I personally like the version of Dan that is a hero at heart. Him dying to the first volley doesn't have to mean he was a coward, but I think that him being that way in life and then choosing to commit to an eternal sacrifice loop where he has to consistently prove himself even though he's done it already, and choosing that over and over again without hesitation is a redemption in itself... just one that doesn't end.
To also be fair, I don't think it would be farfetched to say that Dan loses his memories of the loops and the time travel after he dies, so each time he restarts the loop, every time, it becomes about proving history right all over again. His eternal afterlife becomes a grander, repeating journey of proving himself as a Hero, performing as a Hero without that intrinsic motivator, and then choosing to repeat the cycle all over again in the most ultimate selfless act in order to keep Gallowmere safe from its continued Necromancy problems.
He also gets quite a bit of time in the hall of heroes before his second resurrection...
I played this game so much as kid, still remember the moment i finally finished it. I also didnt knew english so sometime i did struggle.
I hope one day ill be able to replay it :)
This was a great game, i truly loved it.
I swear if there is ever a chance of a Medievil 3, the trailer and title card should include the phrase, "IT HAS RISEN AGAIN!"
I never really played 2, so for me medievil ended on the first game, Dan got the redemption arc he deserved and lives happily forever more. Medievil is easily one of my favorite games of all time, and I replay it to completion at least once a year.
Actually there are any old tales that reminds of Dan's. His story is pretty timeless and in all honesty would make for a great animated series if staying true to everything he was and did in the first game.
Such a good game.
Playing the remake edition now...very well done.
I loved these games as a kid. It was so creepy yet whimsical.
You have actually got me interested in this game. It seems that this game was originally going to be a one shot and then the developers were surprised about the success and panicked. This led to them unable to weave a proper continuation of his story.
i literally stopped working out when i got this notification, praise be the hero of gallowmere the man who should have been the ps1 mascot
The original timeline would still have Sir Daniel prove himself since he needs to do that for the time machine in the first place. He's just making sure the timeline doesn't unravel from his actions imo.
I really love your content on these kinds of unusual, distant and darkly cool games !! I love how you analyze each character and the narrative that you give to its content! More please! Here I recommend ideas for future videos: Oddworld, Heart of darkness, Beyond good & evil, ect
One Of My Favorite Video Game Franchise of all Time i have played all Games in the Series Hopes for a Medievil 2 Remake.
I wonder if that time-travel paradox could be resolved by Dan body-swapping back after he dies. Like, he could remember dying ungraciously even though it was a braver spirit in the body. Oh well.
I'd love if you could directly compare Raziel's time-looping shenanigans with Dan's.
I just want to say for the record I like MediEvil 2. Granted it may not be as good as the original. But it does have its own merits.
I remember having a demo disk that had this on it always wanted to play but never got to. Thank you for reminding me it exist.
I played the ps4 remake two years ago and I really enjoyed it. I had heard about the game for years and I was a little worried that I wouldn’t like it but I was so surprised that I did. Considering that we’ve been getting some great video game to tv adaptations like cuphead and arcane, I think medevil would be perfect for that format. Maybe not a tv show per se, but a medevil movie would be neat to see. Something that both general audiences and fans can enjoy. It’d be a great to generate hype for a medevil 2 remake and maybe a medevil 3.
I'm honestly baffled as to how the writers came to the conclusion of Dan being trapped in an endless loop of repeating his adventure was a fitting end. Maybe it was based on the first game getting re-released a few times, but nothing after that? At the very least, he has a potential way out in Kia.
12:17
Ripper: "mercy oh noble knight, spare me!
Dan shaking his head: "Noh' 'wny."
*Shoots him with a gun*
9:32 Pretty sure that's a *nebula,* not a constellation. Also, you'd think it'd be his *spirit,* rather than his corpse, being given residence in the Hall of Heroes.
As I see it, the comic shows how Dan became stuck in that loop, happening after the set events of the two games we played, meaning the Dan we played as WAS the cowardly one that proved himself a hero and the comic just jumpstarted the sequel events of the time loop.
So that part of his character is intact.
Events of the timeline were going to change thanks to past Dan who was implied to not even show up to the battle, that's why hero Dan was needed in the past to set the events right.
That still leaves coward Dan and he no longer seems to be part of that timeline.
They should make a remake of medievil 2. Just adjust some of the story and give us the original voice of Sir Dan
I think the original voice actor died in October of 2019, at the age of 67.
I wouldnt mind seeing a Medievil 2 remake
Since when is dying while leading the last resort charge dishonorable? That is a hero's death!
My favorite game as a kid
Okay... So this sounds like an easy fix to be, but I am curious what your thoughts would be for this:
- Instead of swapping bodies with his Flesh Dan, Bone Dan convinces Flesh Dan to be a hero in the same trickery that he performed on the King. Telling Flesh Dan the stories from his timeline that the King fabricated after his death . Bone Dan's stories motivate Flesh Dan to take action, believing that it'll give him more fame and glory to throw around and impress the maidens, so in tern he gives a rousing and motivational speech before dying in battle.
Bone Dan then goes back to his timelime after preserving the flow of history by tricking Flesh Dan to die on the battlefield with the temptations and illusions of grandeur which set him up for his future self?
This was THE BEST game that ever came out back in the GEN-1 days
I love this game it was the first one I ever played. I prefer characters that are visably scared and keep going in spite of that fear