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Комментарии • 141

  • @qasemsoleimani9443
    @qasemsoleimani9443 4 года назад +277

    Even more trees destroyed by Australian fires!

    • @qasemsoleimani9443
      @qasemsoleimani9443 4 года назад +19

      @Paddy O'Yakkin Nah, it was all a ruse, I'm now chilling in a Seychelles beach together with comrades Muammar and Saddam.

    • @notaskaven964
      @notaskaven964 4 года назад +10

      Is Tupac there too?

    • @WS-le4dv
      @WS-le4dv 4 года назад

      Kind of insensitive timing, tbh

    • @Jarrod86202
      @Jarrod86202 4 года назад +17

      I'm offensive and I find this Australian.

    • @notaskaven964
      @notaskaven964 4 года назад +1

      Im the RFS and i find this unfunded

  • @brijekavervix7340
    @brijekavervix7340 4 года назад +173

    The game designers specifically put those walls and choke points in for the player to use. Who on Earth would call using them cheese?

    • @MrJinglejanglejingle
      @MrJinglejanglejingle 4 года назад +40

      Idiots that are either elitists, or the backseat gamers.

    • @Edge0fPain
      @Edge0fPain 4 года назад +5

      @@jamaly77
      I'd say that there are a few people who genuinely think that, and usually negative people are more prominently remembered

    • @richardvlasek2445
      @richardvlasek2445 4 года назад +8

      the strawmen that legend loves to make up every video

    • @wardenstone6021
      @wardenstone6021 3 года назад +2

      @@richardvlasek2445 you would be surprised the amount of ppl that message him and say in livestream chat that are serious.

    • @Debilinside
      @Debilinside 3 года назад +1

      @@richardvlasek2445 I dont think its true. He gets a lot when he plays skaven weapon stacks that using ranged and distrupt with heroes is cheese... For some reason people think the only "real" tactic is to altillery -> ranged skirmish -> beat them in melee -> run down with cavalry... This shows most people actually only played the game on easy or maybe normal and possibly with cheats or mods and now idea how legendary difficulty works (where a tier 4 unit can loose to a tier one in melee :D )

  • @danielogats
    @danielogats 4 года назад +111

    "The trees kept voting for the axe, because ge told the trees that he too, was made of wood"

  • @ZoMbi5lAy3r
    @ZoMbi5lAy3r 4 года назад +54

    Now this is a rare engagement. Wood Elves never leave their forests in my campaigns. They just sit at home declaring war on whoever they please, without taking any actions against them

    • @mrmcjeff385
      @mrmcjeff385 4 года назад +15

      In my recent khemri campaign the wood elves have gone on a mad bender, they're strength rank 4 (higher than the dwarfs or empire!), own most of bretonnia and have come all the way down to the desert and are smashing me along with the rest of the inevitable good guys alliance

    • @ZoMbi5lAy3r
      @ZoMbi5lAy3r 4 года назад

      @@mrmcjeff385 I'm sure it won't stay that way for long since their outposts are easily defeated by any mid tier army

    • @mrmcjeff385
      @mrmcjeff385 4 года назад +4

      Yeah I would go and take it all away from them but sadly I cant push up past the badlands, taking up to where you can go west around the ocean always gets me killed because the dwarfs are pretty big and they come from the east whilst tilea and the wood elves come from the west
      I might be able to hold that off if that was all it happened but I always have to hold 3 of my armies in reserve on the desert coast because carcassonne, ostermark and talbecland or however you spell it keep sailing across the sea from sartosa at the same time
      Think it's an unwinnable situation unless I can manage to drag the dark elves (they're strength ranks 1 and 2) on to my side but they dont like me :(

    • @Somedude317
      @Somedude317 4 года назад

      In the one I'm playing now as Dread Fleet, I have 2 armies in their territory raiding and they will not attack me.

  • @adamcermak
    @adamcermak 4 года назад +48

    All the world: Planting trees
    Legend: cutting them down like the flies :D

    • @rupertpomroy4348
      @rupertpomroy4348 4 года назад

      Adam Cermak if only all the world were planting trees, have u read the news?

    • @Dennisthamaster
      @Dennisthamaster 4 года назад +1

      Kingdom Rusher yeah, those australians were trying to beat legend, in killing trees...

  • @stgcjc7902
    @stgcjc7902 4 года назад +161

    Holding Choke Points and setting up Killzones is considered Cheese? since when is basic defensive strategy cheese? Do people just click on enemy units and expect to just win? (this is in no way targeted at anyone specifically, certainly not the sender of this save) I'm just surprised.
    Good victory Legend.

    • @scottycheesecake
      @scottycheesecake 4 года назад +4

      Slave morality at work

    • @stahliboi6249
      @stahliboi6249 4 года назад +18

      Legend was being ironic, because there's people that seem to call him out on everything.
      Those same people probably play the game on easy or normal amd crtl a and right click the closest enemy

    • @sawsonex3215
      @sawsonex3215 4 года назад +4

      no but like basically giving up your walls and half your fort is

    • @Rafael_Fuchs
      @Rafael_Fuchs 4 года назад +18

      @@sawsonex3215 How so? That's how a fort is designed to be fought even in real life, way back when. A fort was made expecting to lose the outer walls, so that troops got funneled in to fight in tight corridors to remove any sort of advantage that numbers gave them. That's why only the lowest class citizens lived in the outer wall regions. That's also why sieges lasted for years; no one wanted to just blindly run into a kill-box, like the AI does in TW:W2. Lol

    • @Kuddochan
      @Kuddochan 4 года назад +7

      As much as I don’t like cheese strats, I don’t understand how this would be considered one of them. Isn’t this just completely standard military tactics? lol

  • @FogelTheVogel
    @FogelTheVogel 4 года назад +24

    That is one hell of a defensible position

    • @brothir
      @brothir 4 года назад +37

      It's almost like it's a fort, constructed to provide defensive capabilities.

    • @Dennisthamaster
      @Dennisthamaster 4 года назад +1

      brothir ouch the burn

    • @Debilinside
      @Debilinside 3 года назад

      @@brothir which is a rare sight in TW warhammer :D I love this game, but the sieges are really, really terrible...

  • @CrimsonDragon15
    @CrimsonDragon15 4 года назад +28

    What's Durthur doing?
    He's just standing there! Menacingly!

    • @MrBlindsight1
      @MrBlindsight1 4 года назад

      He was calling a Moot and then he saw Legend killing trees and became triggered.

  • @VainEldritch
    @VainEldritch 4 года назад +10

    Nice battle and a solid victory. Empire forts are a lot of fun - you managed to hold the upper square nicely by thoughtful use of the layout. Deployment time well spent, general. Oh, and: GO HANDGUNNERS! They really toasted that welf hero on his "here I am shoot me" mount.

  • @AurioDK
    @AurioDK 4 года назад +5

    Trying to dodge Woody Lord/Hero arrows is a very bad idea, the Woddies have trueflight arrows. There was no cheese there, you simply held choke points and defended ... perfectly valid.

  • @MadMaxTheFish
    @MadMaxTheFish 4 года назад +4

    "Metal hates trees" - Todd and the Book of pure Evil

  • @Wintermist-SWE
    @Wintermist-SWE 4 года назад +18

    Being a massive WE fan I secretly wished they would win lol

  • @qxponix589
    @qxponix589 4 года назад +1

    Learnt so many techniques watching your vids. Used to auto battle because I didn’t know how to command the armies but now is use all the cheese and strays you teach. Feels good not losing my units. Thanks

  • @Edge0fPain
    @Edge0fPain 4 года назад +4

    13:17
    I see what you did there

  • @sim.frischh9781
    @sim.frischh9781 4 года назад +10

    "Not out of the Wood Elves" you mean XD

  • @masterofthedeathwing2839
    @masterofthedeathwing2839 4 года назад +2

    Lol, I had to create and build a special army to defeat the Wood Elves.
    They always seem to get fruity on my campaigns, and i tend to put them down around turn 70-90
    And of course Legend smashes them with a garrison

  • @Dianbler
    @Dianbler 4 года назад +6

    In time for my work break, as always. Thanks for the vids, man. Nice work as awalys.

    • @CapybaraConnoisseur89
      @CapybaraConnoisseur89 4 года назад +1

      I also watch Legend during my work break. Going to my car set up phone and enjoy 😁

  • @barleysixseventwo6665
    @barleysixseventwo6665 4 года назад

    This map is unstoppable in my games.
    My strategy is to position your handgunners on the platforms on either side of the main ramp, where they can reach out and shoot units climbing the walls. Then the crossbowmen can sit next to them and shoot units coming up the central ramp or milling about in the courtyard. The 3rd tier is where you stick artillery allowing them to shoot enemies standing outside the fort’s walls (cavalry), climbing the walls, or with manual aim you bomb the bottom of the ramp while your troops hold the middle or top. Your halberdiers and knights need to guard the flanks, and you should cycle out your troops holding the ramp to keep them fresh.
    Also the AI tends to send infantry lords and characters ahead of the main army, so while the rest of his troops are climbing the walls you can let your handgunners unload into a vulnerable lord looking to duel your captain.

  • @SleepyFen
    @SleepyFen 4 года назад +1

    Faith, steel and lots and lots of gunpowder!

  • @micurazvan3504
    @micurazvan3504 4 года назад

    This is why the knife-ears should stick to their forests.

  • @thaliatherasdotter9175
    @thaliatherasdotter9175 4 года назад

    Holding chokepoints and creating killzones are NOT cheese. They are some of the oldest and most ancient military tactics used throughout mankind's history. Good job, Legend!

  • @Zefar77
    @Zefar77 4 года назад +1

    Most RUclipsrs are planting Trees while Legends wipe them out.

  • @MathieuH96
    @MathieuH96 4 года назад +1

    Very pleasant siege on a very cool map, need more sieges like this !

  • @IIIJG52
    @IIIJG52 4 года назад +1

    That Garrison gained a fair few chevrons there :D . Gonna make the next time so much easier eh :D

    • @srgfkct3544
      @srgfkct3544 3 года назад

      Sorry for a reply on an 11 month old comment, but do garrisons actually get and retain ranks?

    • @IIIJG52
      @IIIJG52 3 года назад

      @@srgfkct3544 Yes.

  • @xeldronx
    @xeldronx 4 года назад

    Metal Shards bombardment spell (Forget the actual name) is really OP on large units (Units like Durthu), just FYI. Unless they patched it up recently. Look it up on one of Turin's videos. It almost "one shots" them.

  • @harjutapa
    @harjutapa 4 года назад

    I love watching Legend use Empire. My favorite TW youtuber using my favorite faction :)
    Gotta love watching rockets destroy everything in sight.

    • @harjutapa
      @harjutapa 4 года назад

      (also, this is by far my favorite siege map to defend on, the perfect placement for ranged and artillery in the front where Legend put his gunners makes it so easy)

  • @ReaperoftheWar
    @ReaperoftheWar 4 года назад

    This gave me flashbacks to fall of the samurai.....the gatling guns...oh god...

  • @FraggaShmagga
    @FraggaShmagga 4 года назад +2

    At 9:15 it said "The enemy gates are destroyed!"
    Is that a bug? Shouldn't it say "your gate"?

    • @yaboi5890
      @yaboi5890 4 года назад +6

      No because the enemy controlled the gates, so it's theirs and when they destroy it they're destroying their gates.

    • @FraggaShmagga
      @FraggaShmagga 4 года назад

      @@yaboi5890 makes sense! I didn't think about the fact that when they take control of it it becomes "theirs". I was just thinking of it in the context of the fort

  • @brothir
    @brothir 4 года назад +1

    A shame you didn't show how the campaign was going after the battle.

  • @joshpalmer3754
    @joshpalmer3754 4 года назад +4

    Why is Belthasar in a fort on his own?!?

    • @ivansilviu7481
      @ivansilviu7481 4 года назад +15

      He wanted some alone time

    • @tonyfranksland428
      @tonyfranksland428 4 года назад +3

      Maybe the player just Confederate him

    • @tonyfranksland428
      @tonyfranksland428 4 года назад +3

      And High cost make him disband every unit in Belthasar's army

    • @joshpalmer3754
      @joshpalmer3754 4 года назад +2

      @@tonyfranksland428 good one. I didnt think of that.

    • @millerrepin4452
      @millerrepin4452 4 года назад

      he's jerking it in San Diego

  • @mr.k4011
    @mr.k4011 4 года назад +4

    Damm elves

    • @Zaggy221
      @Zaggy221 4 года назад +2

      i bet they had something to do with this

    • @TheRedeemed117
      @TheRedeemed117 4 года назад +1

      @@Zaggy221 Empire walls and towers used to make me feel so safe.

    • @mr.k4011
      @mr.k4011 4 года назад

      We should build a wall and make them pay for it

  • @Sixtenblixt94
    @Sixtenblixt94 4 года назад

    seven-year disaster battle

  • @trollingsoul3386
    @trollingsoul3386 4 года назад

    save the trees.bush life count,etc

  • @Momotaicho
    @Momotaicho 4 года назад

    So I have a question. I'm doing a Chaos mortal empires right now and just attacked a settlement with no reserve army. Weird thing was that asides from the normal Empire medium garrison they had two units that had no business being there. A Thane and a Waystalker! It wasn't a bother it just kinda made me think something's wrong! Is this something anyone has come across before?

    • @user-zj9zi9iy1m
      @user-zj9zi9iy1m 4 года назад

      Momotaicho probably some unique building, check city

    • @gergokerekes4550
      @gergokerekes4550 4 года назад +1

      my boi just met the ubersreik five or four it doesn't matter.

    • @gaslar3328
      @gaslar3328 4 года назад +1

      that's the ubersreik special building, the red moon inn if I'm not mistaken, and I think it's a reference to warhammer : vermintide, as the four units it provides as garnison witch hunter, wauwatcher bright wizard and thane in stead of dwarf ranger are the fur playable characters of vermintide.

  • @HoneyBadger1779
    @HoneyBadger1779 4 года назад

    Artillery never does enough damage before the battle closes

    • @nonameguy96
      @nonameguy96 4 года назад

      Laughs in necrofex colossus

    • @HoneyBadger1779
      @HoneyBadger1779 4 года назад

      @@nonameguy96
      That's different, those are more then just artillery. Same with a Steamtank or Luminark.
      I prefer none or one piece max, you have to protect it, you have to babysit the firing, the game WILL make you hit your own at least once, and if you manually control it you miss what else is going on. Better use the slot for a wizard.

    • @thehistorians5231
      @thehistorians5231 4 года назад

      @@HoneyBadger1779 depends on the MU
      artilery in general "with a few exceptions of course" are a niche unit
      but depending on comp on circumstances and MU can make artilery or even artilery heavy armies quite good

    • @otwk
      @otwk 4 года назад

      Exactly, 300 each is so pathetic, definitely not enough, absolutely not! So useless...

    • @user-dr6bc4jc8y
      @user-dr6bc4jc8y 4 года назад

      I think queen bess has something to say about this

  • @GamePie31
    @GamePie31 4 года назад

    Metal vs Hard Wood. Would have been better.

  • @herrinboy13
    @herrinboy13 4 года назад

    Best total war streamer

  • @ProfessorHanger
    @ProfessorHanger 4 года назад +1

    Legend you have the midas touch, except everything you touch turns to cheese.
    On a side note that would actually be terrible, mold would be getting everywhere.

  • @SanDan3rdDan
    @SanDan3rdDan 4 года назад

    No cheese here.

  • @dreamer5234
    @dreamer5234 4 года назад +1

    Is the wood elf dlc worth buying? Is it fun to play in ME?

    • @LS-kc9lp
      @LS-kc9lp 4 года назад

      I dont think you get the full use of it in TW:WH2 unlike the first game where the DLC gave you a seperate shorter campaign, so if you own the first game its maybe worth checking out otherwise id leave it unless its on a cheap deal or your a fan of the faction.

    • @dreamer5234
      @dreamer5234 4 года назад +1

      @@LS-kc9lp Thanks, that's what I've read on other threads too, that in ME its poorly balanced.

    • @solar9610
      @solar9610 4 года назад +1

      @@dreamer5234 it isn't that it's poorly balanced. it's that their mechanics genuinely suck and starve them of amber and power until 150+ turns into the game.

    • @dreamer5234
      @dreamer5234 4 года назад

      @@solar9610 too bad. Their units looks cool, but I don't want to pay just to be frustrated in the end.

  • @arminahnoud9068
    @arminahnoud9068 3 года назад

    But legend, it's cheeezzz!!

  • @taipenn2358
    @taipenn2358 4 года назад

    Cheese Against Trees

  • @OccoboOTG
    @OccoboOTG 4 года назад +1

    Keep up the amazing content love your vids

  • @Achillez098
    @Achillez098 4 года назад

    Mortars and Crossbowmen are much better on this map IMHO, Hellstorm and cannons keep getting obstructed by nothing

  • @baal9867
    @baal9867 4 года назад

    Hail the Lord of Cheese lol

  • @millerrepin4452
    @millerrepin4452 4 года назад +2

    (mr. beast didn't like that)

  • @TheHighKingFingolfin
    @TheHighKingFingolfin 4 года назад

    Hey Legend, please more *feeling* with the unit deployment. You're stacking them like a dopefiend's needle/syringe mountain.

  • @ahmettayyipaydin6925
    @ahmettayyipaydin6925 4 года назад +1

    how can ı defeat reik army as wood elves. their rocket fuckes me everytime

    • @notaskaven964
      @notaskaven964 4 года назад +1

      Deepwood scouts, spread out heaps

    • @ahmettayyipaydin6925
      @ahmettayyipaydin6925 4 года назад +1

      @@notaskaven964 I tried something just like that but I failed because 3 army vs 3army we fought and he had 6 rocket. I will try again or force him to peace. I will let dwarfs get rid of him

    • @tychoschenkels7841
      @tychoschenkels7841 4 года назад +1

      @@ahmettayyipaydin6925 If you are able to deny them reinforcements the artillery will show up last so you can get some fast cav or whatever to kill and rout them straight off the battlefield before they can fire on your troops

  • @KazeKoichi
    @KazeKoichi 4 года назад +2

    Legend: exists.
    CHEESE!

  • @conman698
    @conman698 4 года назад +3

    Is anyone else jealous of Legend's wife, or is it just me?

  • @Aorx159
    @Aorx159 4 года назад +1

    If more settlements were made as unique, not necessarily defensible, I feel like cheese strategies wouldn't be so viable

  • @MEGABUMSTENCH
    @MEGABUMSTENCH 4 года назад +1

    everytime i get attacked at sol, it had no walls. i dunno what the fuckind deal is

  • @justinnobrega7587
    @justinnobrega7587 4 года назад

    I know you dont like Mods Legend, but you should play SFO, it would be amusing as hell to watch you deal with the way SFO does the game.

    • @thehistorians5231
      @thehistorians5231 4 года назад

      he has tried it in the past he did a thorgrim campaign with sfo

    • @magmaticfish2099
      @magmaticfish2099 4 года назад

      Also an Arkhan campaign, if I am not mistaken.

  • @ries3160
    @ries3160 4 года назад +1

    are you ok legend you seem a bit out of it?

  • @olegmironov5636
    @olegmironov5636 4 года назад +1

    Cheese is like your superpower Legend

    • @thehistorians5231
      @thehistorians5231 4 года назад +2

      i mean he is the greater demon of jeff incarnate so makes sense

  • @fellowtemplar5679
    @fellowtemplar5679 4 года назад +5

    Hello there.

    • @Traeharn
      @Traeharn 4 года назад +4

      General Kenobi!

  • @god1aj
    @god1aj 4 года назад

    I’m tired of these tulsi gabbard ads... she doesn’t even take the time to go to DC to vote 75 percent of the time.. she’s getting a paycheck without putting in any work