Mercedes, don't be mad. But... - Mercedes EQS 2022

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  • @zollotech
    @zollotech 2 года назад +411

    Yep…the capacitive buttons are ridiculous in a car at that price. The whole thing reminds me of a Blackberry Storm.

    • @misterdragzon
      @misterdragzon 2 года назад +1

      I blame Audi/VW Group for pushing them for years

    • @Erevos85
      @Erevos85 2 года назад +2

      Capacitive buttons are ridiculous in any car.

  • @JohnIrwin
    @JohnIrwin 2 года назад +1018

    Mercedes: we've spent millions developing a full screen gamer style virtual heads up display that actively overlays direction arrows over the road
    LTT: turn it off

    • @marcogenovesi8570
      @marcogenovesi8570 2 года назад +84

      nobody wants this bs, give us back phyisical buttons and dials

    • @piobu5357
      @piobu5357 2 года назад +83

      HUD is a useful thing, if done right. I get everything I need there in my Mazda, and since the infotainment screen is on the same level, and I can operate it with the physical rotary wheel without looking, I almost never need to look down, and take my eyes off the road. Easy to use and safe.

    • @Katojana
      @Katojana 2 года назад +25

      @@marcogenovesi8570 I totally would love a HUD
      capacity touch tho? no thanks

    • @JohnIrwin
      @JohnIrwin 2 года назад +9

      For reference, this is what the tech looks like. ruclips.net/user/clipUgkxQK_wkJi7BbXB9135aFaquiehajBjSU0M
      I don't disagree that capacitive controls are an issue, but I'd still like to have seen this aspect of the vehicle being reviewed by this channel

    • @kornkernel2232
      @kornkernel2232 2 года назад +6

      @@piobu5357 Yeah HUD is great especially when done right. I believe every car should have it really, even Tesla Model 3 where there is nothing on your peripheral vision when looking at the road. It will be far more futuristic that Tesla wants than just having single touchscreen on the middle.
      But still physical buttons and dials should be mandatory. I never thought capacitive touch is really for cars, we don't feel it. Unless they somehow developed really insane haptics that surpasses Apple. Just don't go capacitive, we have enough touchscreen already and even that I would have some physical navigation controls since it is not safe to use touchscreen that has the UI change every context or even every update.
      Touchscreen works great on phones and tablets because we directly look at it, not when driving.

  • @1FelixxileF1
    @1FelixxileF1 2 года назад +2563

    I have never seen a review that said: "I like the capacitive touch buttons over regular buttons" so at this point I don't know why manufacturers still think those are nice and a good idea.

    • @Tyradominus2000
      @Tyradominus2000 2 года назад +362

      CHEAP

    • @CliffordChang-v8c
      @CliffordChang-v8c 2 года назад +267

      Its cheap and it looks cool in the advertisements

    • @Jezee213
      @Jezee213 2 года назад +107

      I know right!! it's the worst of both a button and touch screen, easy to accidentally touch and no physical feedback other than vibration maybe.

    • @sergiogsr
      @sergiogsr 2 года назад +62

      Because its cheaper and easier you can define functions later by SW.
      That doesn't make it right BTW.

    • @DctrGizmo
      @DctrGizmo 2 года назад +23

      They're always bad no matter what the price range is.

  • @michaelgiles9721
    @michaelgiles9721 2 года назад +114

    Fun fact: The rear cup holder being “jammed” is intentional. You press it in once for a pen holder, and a second time for the cup holders. Kinda strange but that’s what it is.

    • @Dubfiance
      @Dubfiance 2 года назад +5

      why on earth would you need a pen holder?

    • @Naturalhighz
      @Naturalhighz 2 года назад +25

      @@Dubfiance to hold your pens obviously

    • @njguy2
      @njguy2 Год назад +2

      @@Dubfiance I think it is a phone holder, not a pen holder.

    • @noveled_1
      @noveled_1 Год назад

      @@njguy2 use a pocket and put the cup holder in the inside, exposed, of the armrest like every other car and forget the stupidity of the mechanics and forget making it more expensive just for the car to "feel" more expensive.

  • @LordWaldema
    @LordWaldema 2 года назад +1928

    Man I love the split second that Alex could keep a straight face when Dennis said "I want to feel the balls"

    • @chrisogrady28
      @chrisogrady28 2 года назад +5

      Could?

    • @LordWaldema
      @LordWaldema 2 года назад +34

      @@chrisogrady28 I mean probably until his brain processed what he just heard

    • @markusnl
      @markusnl 2 года назад +61

      8/10 didn’t quite go deep enough

    • @gmourao
      @gmourao 2 года назад +5

      Dude. Wtf. Dennis is hitting on him?

    • @tetra1974
      @tetra1974 2 года назад

      🤣 hahaha

  • @advitgarg399
    @advitgarg399 2 года назад +61

    Every time shortcircuit drops a video on an ev, i am reminded of 3 things
    1) Alex drives a golf GTX
    2) Alex is over 6 feet tall
    3) Car manufacturers are forgetting the very basics of making a car and butchering practicality for gimics

    • @prateekpanwar646
      @prateekpanwar646 2 года назад +5

      If VW makes Golf RTX, Instant sold.

    • @kuebby
      @kuebby Год назад

      The reason I'll be driving my 04 4Runner until it dies, probably in the 2030s.

  • @EdwinDPZ
    @EdwinDPZ 2 года назад +379

    "Is that deep enough for you?"
    "I don't feel the balls"
    Oh lordy

    • @chrisogrady28
      @chrisogrady28 2 года назад +9

      A transcription from my bedroom

    • @nasjho420
      @nasjho420 2 года назад +6

      thats what she said

    • @aaz1992
      @aaz1992 2 года назад +4

      Lmao

    • @whygamewhy
      @whygamewhy 6 месяцев назад

      "I want to feel a bit of pain"

  • @labman472011
    @labman472011 2 года назад +84

    The LTT Lab notes were a nice touch! Really enjoyed the extra info!

  • @furykillerBZ
    @furykillerBZ 2 года назад +1026

    The most important part of this video is Alex continuing to roast companies over the uselessness of touch controls in a car. The best part of this video is bringing Dennis in as the massage expert

    • @kornkernel2232
      @kornkernel2232 2 года назад +26

      We need Dennis for every car featuring massage feature, or even for comfort ones.

    • @andreastyrberg7556
      @andreastyrberg7556 2 года назад +7

      @@kornkernel2232 The wonders of Intel tech upgrade.
      Now LTT have a meme massage expert that hopefully will test every massage feature they meet.
      Love it

    • @avieshek
      @avieshek 2 года назад +1

      @@andreastyrberg7556 A smart vibrator too, perhaps?

  • @Brandon-dj9cq
    @Brandon-dj9cq 2 года назад +4

    8:29 forget the car, that's a cool soundtrack, what is it?
    (for anyone wondering, I think the remix song is from Maria Callas - Carmen (Habanera) (Chuy Ayala Remix)
    That's the closet remix I'm able to find, if someone can find the exact song, pls let me know

  • @alexandervanslooten5016
    @alexandervanslooten5016 2 года назад +1748

    I think Alex' perspective is really refreshing compared to other automotive reviewers. However, I doubt the EQS' customer base shares/recognizes much of his criticism. Alex seems to really value the characteristics of a hot hatch / sportscar, whereas this car is everything but that.

    • @noobssindcool
      @noobssindcool 2 года назад +115

      S-Class are really focused on a comfortable and luxurious driving experience and not for racing

    • @kinch_evl
      @kinch_evl 2 года назад +24

      It looks like an overgrown Neon.

    • @dellonia
      @dellonia 2 года назад +64

      Mercedes has never made sport cars by itself.
      Only AMG is transforming mercedes cars into sport alternatives. AMG was purchased by Mercedes, but remained independent, so they can modify as much as they want mercedes cars (in some cases they even redesigned entire engines).
      Hence, when mercedes designs a car, it is not to race, but for conform and safety.

    • @mattsnyder4754
      @mattsnyder4754 2 года назад +178

      I mean. 1, he does mention that MULTIPLE times during the video that sport driving isn’t the focus of the car.
      And 2, his biggest criticism, responsive and smooth braking, is - if anything - a more significant problem in a luxury car.

    • @eduardosanchez7827
      @eduardosanchez7827 2 года назад +96

      Brakes shouldn’t have a weird pedal feeling. This is something notices by almost every car reviewer out there. Also, using touch controls on the steering wheel is no luxury experience at all. It’s a lame attempt by MB to lower the price

  • @Neekzu
    @Neekzu 2 года назад +19

    1:16 Expensive 2022 Mercedes still having lagging displays is truly unacceptable.

    • @LPRD
      @LPRD 2 года назад

      It looks a lot better irl. Not that laggy

    • @serrael-182
      @serrael-182 2 года назад +3

      Im remember a vw tiguan like 14 years ago. I already asked myself back theb when theyll have a infotainment system that actually responds in realtime. :D

  • @Fulvica133
    @Fulvica133 2 года назад +489

    Andy: "Hey Mercedes"
    Mercedes:"How can I help?"
    Andy:"I want to go home"
    Mercedes:"Oh, wry, Gods"
    Andy and Alex:"What was that"
    It was the funniest part of the video!!!

    • @noxious8
      @noxious8 2 года назад +8

      Maybe the car got it that they don't like to drive - because they want to 'go'?

    • @michaelthomas3646
      @michaelthomas3646 2 года назад +7

      maybe the car thought Andy meant China, and the car was thinking water and electronics don't mix!! either that or the number of charging ponts it would have to calculate it would need to find in a working condition, and the number of weeks it would take to charge to get to China!! haha

    • @abrahamolvera3491
      @abrahamolvera3491 2 года назад

      Its like we watched the same video or something

    • @Paveynator
      @Paveynator 2 года назад +2

      Maybe a bit flip lol or it’s sentient?

    • @EnsignLovell
      @EnsignLovell 2 года назад +7

      Was it just me or did it kinda sound like the car was mocking his heritage... Probably just me.

  • @NikTek
    @NikTek 2 года назад +1

    The Devil: I like nobody
    The guy who decided capacitive touch controls on a steering wheel is a good idea*
    The Devil: That's my boy

  • @Jur1_00
    @Jur1_00 2 года назад +365

    I started smiling when he talked about bringing a massage expert because I knew who it was 😂

    • @handlemonium
      @handlemonium 2 года назад

      Who?

    • @simonezini5944
      @simonezini5944 2 года назад +6

      @@handlemonium Dennis. Watch his intel extreme tech upgrade

    • @Jur1_00
      @Jur1_00 2 года назад +8

      @@simonezini5944 there's also the massage gaming chair he unboxed on shortcircuit

    • @Mr3ppozz
      @Mr3ppozz 2 года назад +4

      Same !
      Loved that he brought on Dennis because Dennis has a funny way of explaining things xD point in case; I wanna feel da balls ! XD

    • @handlemonium
      @handlemonium 2 года назад +1

      @@Jur1_00 ah yes, Mr. need-my-back-feet-torso-massage-scarf-with-attached-armrests Dennis.

  • @JeremieBPCreation
    @JeremieBPCreation 2 года назад +7

    8:23 Is this yours? Whose remix is that? I love it!

    • @BrianLewis515
      @BrianLewis515 2 года назад +2

      I want to know too

    • @tagg8233
      @tagg8233 2 года назад

      I think it must be, Shazam doesn’t know it. But it is a pretty simple mashup of Bizet’s Habanera with Something Called Karma. Pretty cool tho

    • @cabrge
      @cabrge 2 года назад +1

      Took me some digging but I'm pretty sure it's Something Called Karma (c) on apmmusic

    • @JeremieBPCreation
      @JeremieBPCreation 2 года назад

      @@cabrge Thanks!

  • @TechboyUK
    @TechboyUK 2 года назад +724

    I really like Alex's reviews. He talks about the things that matter when driving a car 👍

    • @devyncoyer1942
      @devyncoyer1942 2 года назад +10

      Haha yeah the real Short Circuit 🙄

    • @MetalLead
      @MetalLead 2 года назад

      Imagine a world where the reviewer only tries to track this thing! 6k lbs lol

    • @BaskuraCorp
      @BaskuraCorp 2 года назад +3

      Alex on cars is highly entertaining!

    • @snjert8406
      @snjert8406 2 года назад +1

      Heck yeah! Fully agree, also his videos when he builds something on the main LTT channel. Those are also super fun to watch

  • @mrfourtwenty6082
    @mrfourtwenty6082 2 года назад +4

    Well I drove the eqs aswell and also found the brake feel a little weird. But you can actually change the regenerative braking with the "shift pedals" so just using one pedal driving is very usable. Also I missed the sub base but maybe because I am just a 19 year old bass lover. Overall this is a very nice car for S class customers that drive for themself and maybe have a assistant always next to them. Kinda like a youtuber that travels a lot with their cutter/cameraman. It feels like its very well tuned for german roads and autobahn where you can use the great fast charging network of europe. In the US and Canada it's probably pretty lost for this, with a lack of really fast chargers. It's not a car to daily to work rather to travel from city to city

  • @BadMax02_VR
    @BadMax02_VR 2 года назад +262

    12:54 i think you guys colored either the graph or the legend of the EQS and S90 in the opposite colors, because it shows the EQS in purple having very good sub bass and the S90 with less bass below 40hz

    • @Nullpersona
      @Nullpersona 2 года назад +4

      Some shots showing the car testing and readouts together might be interesting, or help ensure accuracy during continuity checks of the script and what's shown.

    • @dylanevans5644
      @dylanevans5644 2 года назад +9

      @@jinkim89 Yea agreed, I did pause but unless you are a real audio nerd it's all a little meaningless. Alex is talking about the audio in the background, which I missed as I was pausing and then playing and reading, so lost what he was saying. If his scipt was laid out to use the labs data as a reference it would be better - so "Overall I enjoyed the audio in the car, it feels like it lacks a little bass response in more bass heavy tracks and this is backed up by the data from LTT Labs you can see here *insert graph* - a more in depth explanation can be found at the LTT Labs link in the description"
      Just dumping these data sets in requiring a pause is complete changing how their viewers are having to interact with the video (IMO in a worse way) which I think they still need to work on. Even the editors notes in this video were so quick I had to skip back multiple times - they are funny and I like reading them (especially the bit about hitting a person on the road and being "dumb that you can't do it") but dang do they go quick.

    • @MichaelAW17
      @MichaelAW17 2 года назад

      @@dylanevans5644 This!

  • @Gellis12
    @Gellis12 2 года назад +27

    Hey, I met Andy at a quick charger after they shot this video!
    To be honest, I never would have guessed that the car cost that much from when I saw it; even on the outside, it just seems kinda like a cheap VW with a bit of a facelift. Though to its credit, the underglow and ground-projected logo that appears when you open the doors was actually kinda cool and managed to not look tacky
    the fact that they block you from getting under the hood is ridiculous though, stuff like this is exactly why we need tougher right to repair legislation.

    • @user-ce5oh4bp4l
      @user-ce5oh4bp4l 2 года назад

      The question is: What do you want to repair yourself on a EV like this with a lot of high voltage systems and parts that were designed to the extreme to match the high airflow design (and compact design under the hood)?

    • @Gellis12
      @Gellis12 2 года назад +3

      @@user-ce5oh4bp4l the cabin air filter, for one. There's also the brake fluid reservoir hidden under the plastic panel, and a bunch of other basic maintenance stuff.

    • @levygaming3133
      @levygaming3133 2 года назад +1

      @@Gellis12 50:50 that’s where the 12v battery is, that or the trunk. Also probably have to pop the hood to make brake work easier.

  • @axelsundelin4171
    @axelsundelin4171 2 года назад +407

    At 12:54 there seems do be an error. According to the context given by Alex and the previous graph I think the colors of the graphs for EQS and S90 were switched. Otherwise great information from ltt labs!

    • @Captain_Coleslaw
      @Captain_Coleslaw 2 года назад +16

      Minus the audio dip. Thats fully intentional, when you pull up to a light, or come to a junction, or a car is in your blindspot. The car will lower the volue slightly so you automatically become more aware of your surroundings... And you can turn it off btw

    • @thecanmanification
      @thecanmanification 2 года назад +29

      On the previous slide they said ESQ instead of EQS too. I don’t think they proof read the labs report lol

    • @__dm__
      @__dm__ 2 года назад +4

      and they spelled frequency wrong

    • @MichaelAW17
      @MichaelAW17 2 года назад +26

      I think this was a pretty poor showing from LTT labs. Data was displayed too quickly and too much was given.

    • @michealpersicko9531
      @michealpersicko9531 2 года назад +35

      @@MichaelAW17 Ok and the 7 people this information pertains to can pause the video and read it there's no reason to make the part of the video containing useless information a good majority of the people watching don't give a shit about drag along just to give the handful of people that do car about that info a chance to read it

  • @konigderwelt2174
    @konigderwelt2174 2 года назад +6

    I had the chance to test the EQS. I agree with a lot of what you said. One thing I did like about the car is that with inteligent recuperation, I basically didn't need to brake. The driving assistance feels helpful more often than it feels annoying. Which was a first for me.

  • @jivewig
    @jivewig 2 года назад +31

    2:38 for those confused, yeah it’s 107, not 170

    • @RealWorldReview
      @RealWorldReview 2 года назад

      “So much capacity” really confused me because 80-100kw doesn’t sound like a lot, so 170 looked insane. I would say 107kw is like a 4800 mah battery. Pretty normal.

    • @concinnus
      @concinnus 2 года назад

      Looks like they also got the Volvo and EQS lines switched at 12:55.

    • @AlexanderPavel
      @AlexanderPavel 2 года назад

      @@RealWorldReview Yeah, 170kWh with only 350mi range would be terrible.

  • @AmaraTheBarbarian
    @AmaraTheBarbarian 2 года назад +3

    Me in my 1997 sub compact hatchback, that cost me $1000, regardless of seating position: ah yes there is room for my head in here
    Alex in a brand new electric Mercedes that costs $123,000 USD sitting in the back: ah yes my head is against the roof and will slam into it if we hit a bump.
    I want electric vehicles to be available, especially in countries like this one where not owning a car puts you at a severe disadvantage due to lack of public transit, lack of bike paths, frequently long distances between residential and commercial zoning, and lack of sidewalks in high traffic areas. Well ideally I'd like all of those things to be fixed but since that's not gonna happen electric vehicle proliferation becomes important. Before someone like me would ever make that jump though they have to be 1)significantly less expensive 2)run as few things through a computer as humanly possible. I don't need heated seats, massage seats, a giant screen for satnav and stereo, a screen for a gauge cluster, or basically anything else that would reduce failure by not being so "futuristic". Not to be an old man here, but I've got no power steering, a manual transmission, crank windows, fully mechanical door locks, a key that doesn't require a chip to start the car, lights that have to be manually activated, a passable sound system, no ABS brakes, rotor ignition, and good fuel economy (34 city, 42 highway) and I like it.

    • @user-ky1sv6ee7g
      @user-ky1sv6ee7g 2 года назад

      👆👆Congratulations I got a surprise for you📦

  • @greyant7069
    @greyant7069 2 года назад +92

    Love alex's review and the lab notes ! Really great review !

  • @RetroOkamii
    @RetroOkamii 2 года назад +1

    I don't know what Mercedes was smoking when they wanted their flagship $123,000 electric car to look like a 2014 Civic Si.

  • @PolarPenguin
    @PolarPenguin 2 года назад +20

    Loved the labs stuff but can be kinda annoying to keep pausing the video to read.
    I am not saying you should remove it from the video all together, but maybe provide a transcript of the notes somewhere where it is easily readable, like a complementary blog or something.

  • @jerrycaidic08
    @jerrycaidic08 2 года назад +10

    At least it doesn't suffer from porpoising.😏
    Also, the "can you fit a body on inside the trunk" part. Very Top Gear-ish (the Clarkson, May, and Hammond version), very nice.

  • @HolybasilYT
    @HolybasilYT 2 года назад +57

    The thing I really like about these car "reviews", ignoring Alex, because he is a delight every time we get to see him. Is that you bring on different, connoisseurs if you will to discuss certain features.
    Loved seeing Dennis in this one.

  • @prateekpanwar646
    @prateekpanwar646 2 года назад +1

    13:36 If you reduce front grill design, It'll look like tata tiago.
    I actually like this design it's botton grill is similar to AMG One. It feels like a grill is there but hey didn't add fake grill which increases drag. It seems to be good balance btw reducing drag and keeping aesthetic.

  • @Neoxon619
    @Neoxon619 2 года назад +221

    The screen makes me wonder, how will the Apple CarPlay update work with this car? Also, I love how Dennis was the one to judge the message function given his Intel Extreme Tech Upgrade.

    • @_framedlife
      @_framedlife 2 года назад +18

      New UI is reserved for new cars. It will continue to use a slightly facelifted version of current UI

    • @AshokkumarJakkula
      @AshokkumarJakkula 2 года назад +9

      i dont think this car will get the update. the apple keynote said late 2023 cars, so.....

    • @carholic-sz3qv
      @carholic-sz3qv 2 года назад +1

      @@AshokkumarJakkula i might actually get the update with need to plugin the iPhone, I think Mercedes’ uses nvidia chips for the infotainment or something like that.

    • @skirata3144
      @skirata3144 2 года назад +7

      @@carholic-sz3qv I’ve never seen a German car manufacturer updating software when they do major OS updates. And opening up an api to read safety critical information and allowing it to also overwrite your dashboard with their own design is quite the major change if we go by the standards of German manufacturers.

    • @Neoxon619
      @Neoxon619 2 года назад

      @@AshokkumarJakkula Are you sure they didn’t mean late 2013 or later?

  • @SmashDde
    @SmashDde 2 года назад +1

    Premium in terms of number of crosspromo crammed into the uploads which aren't even informative

  • @therevanchist1123
    @therevanchist1123 2 года назад +178

    My first TownHouse was 119k… that about sums up my thoughts on this.
    Also I imagine this in a commercial with Shaq saying it’s got plenty of room with him getting inside and his head sticking out of the sunroof 😅

    • @spiderjerusalem6887
      @spiderjerusalem6887 2 года назад +11

      119k? Ah yes, the Before-Trudeau times.

    • @springrollpapi
      @springrollpapi 2 года назад +2

      that same townhouse probably goes on the market now for about a million

    • @emiledhaene1297
      @emiledhaene1297 2 года назад

      @@spiderjerusalem6887 ah yes, trudeau, the sole reason housing is up across the whole world

    • @davisbradford7438
      @davisbradford7438 2 года назад +9

      @@spiderjerusalem6887 It's not just a Canadian problem. We are now ahead of the 2007 housing crisis in terms of housing cost compared to median income in the USA as well.

    • @korndud
      @korndud 2 года назад

      @@spiderjerusalem6887 how dumb do you have to be to think it's trudeau's fault. you think house prices are going to dramatically decrease if there was a conservative in power? lmao

  • @Kitteh.B
    @Kitteh.B 2 года назад +4

    YES I LOVED THE LABS GRAPHS! That has me SO pumped for seeing results on audio equipment, it's my favorite part of looking up Rtings reviews!

  • @eamonjun
    @eamonjun 2 года назад +59

    god damn we need more of dennis

    • @jstan5802
      @jstan5802 2 года назад +1

      He likes it so deep that he can feel a bit pain

  • @kyriakos098
    @kyriakos098 2 года назад +1

    Man... if you need 170kWh to go 560km with 0.2 drag coefficient, you're doing something VERY wrong... my hyundai kona has 64kWh and consistently gives me 580~610 km on a full charge of mixed driving... it has a drag coefficient of 0.28. Idk what Mercedes is doing... very inefficient use of electricity it seems like.

  • @BabyShotgun
    @BabyShotgun 2 года назад +19

    That Dennis massage tips part was ripe for some low hanging innuendos.

    • @jstan5802
      @jstan5802 2 года назад

      At that point it's no longer even innuendos lol

  • @soerenbo
    @soerenbo 2 года назад +1

    The title of the video perfectly describes the problem with this video, Alex actually didn't understand the targetgroup of the EQS. The owners are the same as for the classic S-Class, rich (older) people and CEOs who want to drive or be driven absolutly hassle free and with the most comfort possible. It's a luxury cruiser, not a Tesla Model S "sportssaloon" rival. The EQS is an absolute master piece in most of the stuff the target audience wants, and that has been the case for the S-Class as well for many, many years. Alex describes it as "not the best" driving experience, but it's just not made to be engaging and fun, instead it's made to just flow. I think he mostly just stepped a little bit too much out of his typical zone and tried to propose his expectations on what a car should be on this, instead of seeing it as what it is supposed to be.
    I definetly get some/most of the other critical points (especially the capacitive touch), i'm not here to overly praise the car, it has its flaws, even some big ones! I just felt like Alex missed some points because of his personal point of view.

  • @Punz18
    @Punz18 2 года назад +264

    Fun fact: Mercedes has a patent on the sound it's car doors make when you close them

    • @MtnCactus
      @MtnCactus 2 года назад +40

      Its probably a trademark! Patents are usually technological ideas

    • @Gruntled2001
      @Gruntled2001 2 года назад +11

      🤮
      I hope they trademarked the 4-5 digit numbers that their average repairs usually run. There is a sucker born every day, and Mercedes is happy to cater to that market.

    • @FaZekiller-qe3uf
      @FaZekiller-qe3uf 2 года назад +7

      The possessive form of "it" is “its”, not the contraction “it’s”. The latter means “it is”.

    • @mydimeisup5103
      @mydimeisup5103 2 года назад +5

      @@Gruntled2001 My opinon: I don't think German cars are half bad if you can repair them yourselves. I have a 2013 Audi allroad with 152k miles and in the 2 years I've owned it I've only spent about 2k on it. I did timing chains since they're known to stretch and grenade the engine (this is a maintenance item), brake pads, suspension control arms, motor mounts, etc. all the normal stuff for every other car except timing chains. Timing chains were 2k job at local mechanic, 3.5K at dealer. I did it for $490. If you're getting an E46 with the v8 with rod bearings that wear every 100k miles then yeah you're a sucker for a cool car, but most of them aren't that bad.

    • @robertp457
      @robertp457 2 года назад +5

      @@mydimeisup5103 No one buys a luxury brand to save money.

  • @antoniosteiger9443
    @antoniosteiger9443 2 года назад +1

    Holy moly, those lab notes are AMAZING!! But guys, I don't think it makes sense to just plonk those into the video unexplained. Completely explaining them is maybe overkill for shortcircuit, but maybe highly technical extended videos will become a thing?? :)

  • @malteroeper3723
    @malteroeper3723 2 года назад +39

    The 170KWh showed would really be absolutely crazy capacity ^^

    • @dylanza
      @dylanza 2 года назад +9

      It’s 107kw he was wrong

    • @neverendinghobbies
      @neverendinghobbies 2 года назад +11

      He said 107 they showed 170 on the screen

    • @robindas1207
      @robindas1207 2 года назад

      170kw but only 2 miles per KW kinda low

  • @adam88099
    @adam88099 2 года назад +1

    Finally. Someone calls out merc for the capacitive buttons. The other motoring journalists I've seen ream out VW talk about them not being a problem with Merc if they even talk about them at all. Such brand wank.
    Well done mate.

  • @-Eduard-
    @-Eduard- 2 года назад +11

    Oof ... the short flash of the BMW iX was like a jump scare with that grill xD

    • @catbertz
      @catbertz 2 года назад

      Oh 100%! I literally groaned out loud. 🤣🤣

  • @joshuathomas512
    @joshuathomas512 2 года назад +1

    I still don't know who the EQS is aimed at, the target market would seem to be older wealthy individuals but the disco party interior just says college student, they should take a page from idk, every other luxury car manufacturer tbh

  • @marv7907
    @marv7907 2 года назад +54

    Love this test! And I love to see that you show the frequency graphs for the audio systems. This was the first time I saw this.
    Here in Germany the EQS is at the moment the best of all according to some car journalists. But they didn’t show the touch capacitive steering buttons or the cheaped out buttons or talk about the difference between base model and equipt model. And sometimes thy praise the software. But what you showed doesn’t look like even close to be the best.
    In my opinion this is overall a great car. But in certain spots it doesn’t live to it price batch.

    • @benwu7980
      @benwu7980 2 года назад +3

      I believe it's the debut of featuring Labs content.

    • @reyods
      @reyods 2 года назад +7

      It's actually quite funny how German car reviewers bash on cars from the US like the Mach E, and American channels complain about cars like the iX.
      But I totally agree with you. Magazines like "Auto Motor Sport" have always been quite biased, especially towards Mercedes. Don't get me wrong, Merc has made a really interesting car, but things like the buttons were not discussed (or only briefly), so it's kinda nice to see someone mention them. Especially the steering wheel buttons. Whos idea was that, that's so stupid.

    • @Mr.Morden
      @Mr.Morden 2 года назад

      "Journalists" don't exist anymore, these days it's just people on the payroll writing "reviews" padded with talking points and sales pitches. It's the same thing as fake Amazon reviews.

    • @FlorinArjocu
      @FlorinArjocu 2 года назад

      I think he messed those graphs, they are reversed. There is a comment about that.

    • @djhokage1
      @djhokage1 2 года назад

      120k for a car in Germany. "best of all" lol.

  • @swirly9986
    @swirly9986 2 года назад +1

    good video, don’t know how to do it better, feedback to labs stuff, me, a pleb, has no idea what the graphs mean so short explanation or text under the graphs explaining like in ltt with idk proceccor speed and the “lower is better” or something similar is what I’d love to see

  • @alhollywood6486
    @alhollywood6486 2 года назад +7

    Unless you're Linus....😂😂

  • @yuuseir3391
    @yuuseir3391 2 года назад +1

    12:20 Voice control is still the same level as in 1982, good. Maybe in 2050 they might get it better, but it's still a useless feature, also when it will ever work.

  • @CH-bn7qb
    @CH-bn7qb 2 года назад +24

    The reason they don’t want you to open the hood is because they scrimped on the paint job 🤣

  • @steiniminni1124
    @steiniminni1124 2 года назад +1

    I like the Labs notes, but please next time put them over a Part where there is only Music playing, because I couldnt follow Alex and the notes...

  • @MitsumaYT
    @MitsumaYT 2 года назад +44

    I think I know why the capacitive touchbuttons move. Feels like they tried to struck a middle ground between buttons and touch. So you know when you pressed it.
    Of course it seems to fall flat by the point that you still have to actually look where you press...

    • @David-jl7cz
      @David-jl7cz 2 года назад +2

      we knew this was a bad idea when blackberry released the storm.

    • @concinnus
      @concinnus 2 года назад

      Since you have to look, you can tell when you've pressed it. But if it has to move to register, it protects against (some) accidental touch.

  • @WybremGaming
    @WybremGaming 2 года назад +1

    Good lord for 160k there are so much better cars. This car looks ugly and cheap. The white interior does not save it. They should’ve gone with Apple Car Play cause that actually works. Who wants this Android garbage in it, hey mercedes let go home - why home??????

  • @setayo7639
    @setayo7639 2 года назад +72

    Here's one thing I'm not entirely clued up about that bugs me.... They claim that EV cars look slightly weird because they need to have less drag coefficient and aerodynamics... But why aren't they making ICE cars as aero efficient as possible? We could of been having ICE cars that looked like these that would be getting better mileage for years now right?

    • @theproffessional9
      @theproffessional9 2 года назад +26

      Because gas car drivers don't care about efficiency. *Ahem* 20% efficiency *Ahem*

    • @setayo7639
      @setayo7639 2 года назад +4

      @@theproffessional9 I would expect it to be a whole money scheme where many suited individuals hold many flavoured pies, but there are some cars like the honda insight? I think it's that one with some modification people claim to be getting 90+mpg

    • @cagatayy1182
      @cagatayy1182 2 года назад +39

      Most ICE cars have a grill at the front for engine cooling. That should be changing the air flow a lot

    • @setayo7639
      @setayo7639 2 года назад +3

      @@cagatayy1182 oh yeah that would affect it quite a bit, but there is definitely some clever ways to cool such as BMWs active grilles that open and close as required for a workaround

    • @hullabaloo9072
      @hullabaloo9072 2 года назад +6

      Most high mileage sedans look kind of like this already. For ice engines luxury cars could be hideously inefficient because Rick people didn’t care about mileage, but Rick people do care about range on EVs

  • @linuxfabrication9074
    @linuxfabrication9074 2 года назад +1

    I would rather buy a *W222 S350 BlueTec diesel* it looks better, more room, good mpg and costs way less compared to the QES

  • @theproffessional9
    @theproffessional9 2 года назад +13

    I hate that there is no going under the hood, they're trying to iPhoneafiy cars "Fixing doesn't happen often, so fuck it let's make it hard and expensive as hell to fix the tiniest things and make excuse about how you might get hurt or damage something"

    • @carholic-sz3qv
      @carholic-sz3qv 2 года назад

      I get that but seriously what are you going to to under the hood!? Apart from putting the windshield liquid what else would you do!? Nothing!!

    • @skirata3144
      @skirata3144 2 года назад +1

      EVs just are inherently dangerous to fix by the owners themselves unless they belong to the relatively small group of people that can be trusted around high voltage electronics.

    • @carholic-sz3qv
      @carholic-sz3qv 2 года назад

      @@skirata3144 exactly!! From the high voltage battery to the cables to the power electronics a non qualified person has litteraly nothing to do on EVs, you can watch Chris fix on RUclips on how to change the oils on your ICE vehicle and all the service at home but it’s a totally different case with EVs

  • @axson8
    @axson8 2 года назад +1

    3:03 are the batteries in the bottom of the car? if thats the case then the roll over rate is almost impossible. NHSTA tried to roll a much top-end heavier model X and they couldn't do it.

  • @simonrothmann
    @simonrothmann 2 года назад +72

    In Germany they were the first to implement level 3 automated driving with this one and the s class. You definitely should take a trip down here and try it. It’s freaking amazing.

    • @s.i.m.c.a
      @s.i.m.c.a 2 года назад +7

      eeh...sorry, but i still like to be in control and not being hacked, while in automated mode, in a poorly secured Mercedes

    • @jambio3162
      @jambio3162 2 года назад +22

      @@s.i.m.c.a lol

    • @Captain_Coleslaw
      @Captain_Coleslaw 2 года назад +13

      @@s.i.m.c.a Mercedes are the ONLY manufacturer to develop thier security FULLY in house... And thier operating system is also made fully by themselves, with the hardware being made by Nvidea.... They are just about the safest when it comes to hacking

    • @BritishTeaLover
      @BritishTeaLover 2 года назад +34

      @@Captain_Coleslaw Just a point, but proprietary does not mean secure. It means that it hasn't been tested by too many other groups, and very few will have validated it. Doesn't mean it's insecure either, but it's not a plus. Security through obscurity won't work for very long once the system becomes more common.
      There's a reason why open-source stuff is considered to be more secure for most use cases, since it gives so many people a chance to break it that you either find the flaws, or have it proven how secure it is. Hence why most encryption standards are open-source.

    • @B_R_E_I_Z_H
      @B_R_E_I_Z_H 2 года назад +18

      @@Captain_Coleslaw my rule of thumb is generally : if it ain't open source and it hasn't yet been stress tested by actual hackers, then you have no reason to trust it

  • @Aeturnalis
    @Aeturnalis 2 года назад +1

    If the day comes where electric cars are feasible in the US, this will be the one I buy... so I have about 10 to 20 years to save up for it.

  • @tavajava
    @tavajava 2 года назад +8

    would love to start seeing write ups of the LTT labs data with the accompanying video as it can be hard to appreciate the data in a video format

  • @9PlatinumGamer9
    @9PlatinumGamer9 2 года назад +1

    Why would you buy a Mercedes when it looks like... that? It looks like a plastic model of a Ford Fiesta concept car.

  • @flapjack30000
    @flapjack30000 2 года назад +9

    Great review and amazing editing! You guys have come a long way since the first car reviews and its really showing, can't wait to see where you'll be in the next few months!

  • @thanos879
    @thanos879 2 года назад +1

    I'm surprised these companies are brave enough to keep letting you review these shitty cars lol. They might blacklist yall

  • @PatiShorti
    @PatiShorti 2 года назад +15

    The LTT Labs measurements and comments are great! Love it!

  • @user-pv6qk6rm2u
    @user-pv6qk6rm2u 2 года назад +1

    The EQS is with the new S-Class one of the worlds first cars with a real autopilot. In Germany you can already try it out.

  • @jfolz
    @jfolz 2 года назад +5

    The Labs analysis is cool, but I have to pause the video for a couple of minutes every second to actually take it all in and then rewatch it to actually hear what Alex had to say. The format needs work, guys.

  • @wildwilie
    @wildwilie 2 года назад +4

    As soon as he talked about the adaptive breaking, I knew this isnt it. One thing almost everyone will hate is if your brake pedals isnt consistently smooth. Makes you feel so much less in control of the vehicle and much less safe.

    • @user-ky1sv6ee7g
      @user-ky1sv6ee7g 2 года назад

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    • @Koda14
      @Koda14 2 года назад +4

      I Have the adaptive regen braking enabled on my Hyundai EV and honestly once you're used to it it's fine. You learn to predict how it is going to respond depending upon what's in front of you and can respond appropriately. If the Mercedes version is anything like this, I would be more than happy to live with it.

    • @wildwilie
      @wildwilie 2 года назад +2

      ​@@Koda14 I'm not just trashing adaptive braking all together, I'm mostly talking about how alex is saying how he feels about it. I've test driven the Hyundai's with adaptive breaking and its feels a little odd at first but nothing alarming.

  • @Killerpixel11
    @Killerpixel11 2 года назад +18

    The current S class will absolutely be better. But it depends on what you're reviewing, because that one is absolutely an executive's car. It won't corner. It won't go as the EQS does.
    If possible, I would like a little more time devoted to "EV stuff". How does it handle charging? Does it do the advertised power? Does it handle preconditioning? How is the route/charge planning (it's supposed to be really good in the EQ series) stuff like that.
    As a whole, having seen a number of reviews, I think the EQS should've been the EQE...and the current EQE should just not exist. Because this most definitely is NOT an S class, in no way.
    It's also worth a mention, that pretty soon the EQS (and the S class) will be the first production cars you can order with actual, certified Level 3 autonomy capability according to EU regs. At least here in Germany , not sure about other markets. It'll be very limited (almost uselessly so) but it will be there.

  • @CED99
    @CED99 2 года назад +1

    2:41 Infographic 170 kWh - yeah, I'm pretty sure that's wrong and Alex is right at the 107 kWh

  • @PaladinofRealm
    @PaladinofRealm 2 года назад +10

    Love the LABS stuff really great for audio folks like me. Quick side note at 12:50 there's a spelling error in the top right corner.

  • @azenyr
    @azenyr 2 года назад +1

    "You can literally fry yourself to death if you open the hood"... "Hilarious, let's open the hood!"

  • @benjaminsmith3625
    @benjaminsmith3625 2 года назад +25

    Love the audio graphs! Having a labs website for the audio and colour data you collect will be great!

    • @handlemonium
      @handlemonium 2 года назад +1

      "public database" please 👍

  • @hardwire666too
    @hardwire666too 2 года назад +1

    I refuse to buy any vehicle made after 1999 anymore. I like being able to fix my stuff freely.

  • @mydimeisup5103
    @mydimeisup5103 2 года назад +16

    As a car guy I love this review. I love my ICE engines. I love my V8s and Audi supercharged 3.0T v6 however I'm excited to see what electric counterparts we can have along side ICE for the average non-car guy/gal. I was expecting this to be like every other tech channel's review of electric cars "Ohh big screen. Ohh technology. Ohh this!" but you very critical of options being hidden in infotainment, Mercedes' effort to stop customers working on their own car, and the capacitive buttons and lack of physical controls, especially climate controls. I've tried cars with climate controls in a screen and it doesn't work. Physical controls are just miles better (pun intended). Thank you for a real review of the car as a whole and not just looking at the shiny screens and technology.

  • @jacksontint
    @jacksontint 2 года назад +1

    The text on screen for the battery capacity said 170kWh when it should be 107.8kWh

  • @friddevonfrankenstein
    @friddevonfrankenstein 2 года назад +3

    "Is this deep enough for you?"
    "I can't feel the balls, I want to feel the balls. I want to feel a little pain"
    That was EPIC! I can't stop laughing xD

  • @henryatkinson1479
    @henryatkinson1479 2 года назад +1

    Can you guys please find someone who knows what they're talking about to review cars?

  • @jonasboekema8619
    @jonasboekema8619 2 года назад +52

    My dad is in his fifties and recently bought an EQS. I think he's the perfect audience for this car, he's had his sports cars but now he just wants to drive around in luxury in an electric car. And it really is pure luxury, sitting in this car feels like you're floating on the road in absolute silence.

    • @Raaaphael
      @Raaaphael 2 года назад +7

      We have an S- class. The driving experience in those cars is just amazing!

    • @TomF1F1Gameplaysandmore
      @TomF1F1Gameplaysandmore 2 года назад +15

      How nice is it being rich?

    • @WybremGaming
      @WybremGaming 2 года назад +20

      Plastic crappy buttons, shit tier Android system that doesn’t work, ugly cheap design. I’m sorry but this isn’t luxury.

    • @marcogenovesi8570
      @marcogenovesi8570 2 года назад +4

      paid comment brought to you by Mercedes

    • @jonasboekema8619
      @jonasboekema8619 2 года назад +10

      @@TomF1F1Gameplaysandmore not bad

  • @Austin-ts4th
    @Austin-ts4th 2 года назад +1

    The cup holder in the back wasn't jammed, it was designed that way. The first click is a pen holder then you give it a half click to get the cup holders. Not sure why its like that but it is what it is. Having the lumbar controls in the screen allows you to adjust the lumbar to a more specific spot to help pinpoint specific spots. The MBUX infotainment is very intuitive and easy to use. Yes there are a lot of sub menus but its easy to figure out.

  • @mustapha154
    @mustapha154 2 года назад +5

    I love your energy

  • @NuSpirit_
    @NuSpirit_ 2 года назад +1

    3:48 wth? $160 000 car cannot properly mount the AC controls while my $16 000 car can? :D

  • @rullerr
    @rullerr 2 года назад +3

    Seeing the labs graphs come up for the audio was so great. Really looking forward to seeing this kind of detail and review data/normalization when discussing products.

  • @symik3
    @symik3 2 года назад +1

    Thank you Alex for opening the god damn hood. They missed it everywhere,

  • @NealChauhan
    @NealChauhan 2 года назад +24

    Alex is such a good host. I love this series

  • @kr0naa
    @kr0naa 2 года назад +1

    the back trunk is white and already dirty. continues to climb into it with shoes on xd

  • @mikegoggin570
    @mikegoggin570 2 года назад +16

    I've watched all of these electric car reviews and just wanted to say that I love seeing Alex review these cars. I had no idea there were so many electric cars on the market and I'm glad someone is taking the time to find out how good or bad they are so I don't have to.

  • @joshuathomas512
    @joshuathomas512 2 года назад +1

    2:38 the graphic should be 107kWh not 170, almost lost my mind

  • @shinokami007
    @shinokami007 2 года назад +8

    "hey mercedes" moment are priceless, love you guys :3
    Thanks for the content, as always ;)

  • @user-wt1gg8fx8o
    @user-wt1gg8fx8o 2 года назад +2

    LTT Version of Top Gear. LOVE IT. NEED MORE.

    • @user-ky1sv6ee7g
      @user-ky1sv6ee7g 2 года назад

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  • @pumpuppthevolume
    @pumpuppthevolume 2 года назад +9

    I want to see Linus review it ...it will be interesting if he has gotten already the tycan wagon as a daily

    • @ggandalff
      @ggandalff 2 года назад +2

      He hasn't

    • @pumpuppthevolume
      @pumpuppthevolume 2 года назад

      @@ggandalff yeah we would have heard about it if he had it

    • @benwu7980
      @benwu7980 2 года назад

      @@pumpuppthevolume Still with the Volt.

    • @pumpuppthevolume
      @pumpuppthevolume 2 года назад

      @@benwu7980 yeah that's the latest they showed about his car .....but he did say he bought the tycan wagon ....it's just not clear when he'll get it

    • @benwu7980
      @benwu7980 2 года назад

      @@pumpuppthevolume He said yesterday hie's still driving the Volt, so not sure what up with the Taycan.

  • @marcelroodt
    @marcelroodt 2 года назад +1

    I long for the days when cars didn't all look like melted soap bars.

  • @joosteillebrecht1823
    @joosteillebrecht1823 2 года назад +6

    Yes another great Alex car video :DDD

  • @NTGuides
    @NTGuides 2 года назад +1

    BTW guys the battery capacity is 107Kwh not 170Kwh

  • @sleepy_dobe
    @sleepy_dobe 2 года назад +3

    I love cars, and I love PCs. LMG is perfect for me. And I especially love that you guys aren't afraid to be really critical of the cars you review. A lot of the traditional car magazines tend to be nice to the carmakers and not mark the cars down in areas where they are bad, probably for fear that they won't get sent future models for review. I know Linus doesn't give a rat's ass about that so hooray for us, consumers!

  • @duerf5826
    @duerf5826 2 года назад +1

    Mercedes's pathetic attempt at catering to techbros. My multi-millionaire grandpa wouldn't go near a hundred miles of this "car".

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      @user-ky1sv6ee7g 2 года назад

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  • @maxzett
    @maxzett 2 года назад +3

    I actually don't own a car.
    However I really really like your car reviews.
    I also don't even want to own a car, BUT for some reason I really enjoy watching the reviews.
    It's a bit refreshing from all the usual hardware, and it's actually interesting what cars are capable of these days in terms of tech.
    I honestly am more interested in the cars interior than exterior or performance metrics.

  • @mr3_def
    @mr3_def 2 года назад +1

    1:48 yeah, I really hate it when you cant kill people with your car

  • @abrahamolvera3491
    @abrahamolvera3491 2 года назад +1

    5:52 "Mobilizing" more like Mo-BALL-izing

  • @martinprendes6182
    @martinprendes6182 2 года назад +1

    I almost puked when you hit me with the bmw scare shot at 10:48

  • @BlueKnight87
    @BlueKnight87 2 года назад +1

    Pretty sure I'm nearly 6', that would NOT be my car

  • @gamersinghking4167
    @gamersinghking4167 Год назад +1

    The black makes the car look a little better for some reason.