I was 31 when I started law school and 34 when I finished. I enjoyed my time in law school immensely. I had been a practicing acccountant for ten years prior to law school. I went to law school as an academic pursuit and I had no desire to practice law and sacrifice my life on the altar of partnership track billable hours. Instead, I was blessed to get a job as a college professor teaching tax and business law, and getting a JD gave me instant credibility in academia. And last year, at age 57, I was blessed to get an LL.M. in tax. So for me, law school put me on the career path I enjoy to this day. That's my $0.03.
Thanks for sharing your story! I was a legal assistant for 10 yrs (while getting my master in public health part time). I even studied data science to be more marketable, but it has been HARD to break into public health (with law experience, you get pigeonholed). However I got an amazing paid internship due to my legal experience in the WBG's global health office. It really opened my eyes how rare and needed law professionals are needed in public health. I'm biting the bullet and giving law school admissions a chance at 36. Your story is so relatable and gives me hope.
@@pcarebear1 Glad I was able to help. If you do go to law school, the fact that you have work experience and life experience will put you ahead of the curve.
Thank you so much for sharing such a great, I'm glad that worked out so well for you, you had a clear idea of where you were going. I am interested in your opinion on this: Do you think it is better for recent 22 year old college graduates to go to a traditional 3 year full time day law school with summers off whereas those entering later i.e. going to law school while working are better suited to part-time, flexible, evening, accelerated summer/intersession programs, etc. ? It would appear that the makeup of your class wouldn't matter as what kind of somebody elses are in your class since you have to pass the exams, etc. . . Also for those already working if they are paying as they go by writing a check each semester instead of student loans that would be a lot of extra money from what they are already doing, would law school make sense there?
@@michaelethangross3395 Thank you for the kind words. I don't know that there is a one size fits all answer to your question. Law schools accept applicants of all ages based on undergraduate GPA, LSAT scores, and work experience, among other factors. In my opinion, I think it is better for a recent college graduate to wait at least a year before starting law school. This is because law school is completely different from college, as the typical reading requirement is around 100 pages per week, per course (Contracts, Torts, Property, Civil Procedure, Legal Writing). Also, most law classes typically have only one exam at the end of the semester that is 100% of the class grade. Thus, whatever last-minute cramming for college exams would be completely worthless in law school, as law school requires hours of daily study outside of class. As to older students going at night after working all day, I think it is much better to pay as you go as opposed to taking out loans (as I did when I pursued my LL.M.) as long as one has the income stream and savings to. be able to do so. Additionally, law school is a lot more expensive now than it was when I was in law school. Conservatively, law school tuition is anywhere between $40 to $60K per year, so do your research and look at the pros and cons on all sides to determine whether it is worth it for you. Hope that helps.
Why is no one talking about the part where he says law school is bad because YOU CANT HOOK UP WITH YOUR PROFESSORS???? Like whAT kind of reason is that????
i don't know why people hate the skilled trades (electrician, plumber, mechanic, etc.) so much. i work in a trade, and also sell home cooked food. i make $120k a year (pre-tax), and have zero student loan debt. i thank God i never cared about things like prestige and status. i was always a dumb person, so college was never for me anyway. i'm glad and grateful things worked out for me tho.
I think the trades are great, and advocate that young kids graduate HS a year early, get a trade, and then go for an undergraduate degree. My life experience has led me down an undraditional path. I own my own mobility-based massage therapy and personal training business, having returned to this field after a 12 year layoff from it while I was doing executive management operations. I set myself up to work this business, help people with their mobility issues, while I prep to take the LSAT. I've attained many of my life goals, and my youngest child is close to HS. I finally have the time and freedom to study law. I've always been driven to public defender work, and believe that's my an end goal drive for me. I've attained my creature comforts as an older adult, I have the house and the kids are grown. Now I can focus on fulfilling my ultimate passion of helping the indigent.
you may always be breaking ur back to make your living. health is wealth! when you take some of these more academic routes wether it be medical doctor, juris doctor, engineer its gonna keep paying years down the line. and the skill that you actually have is the most valuable among other trades. people will always get sick or need someone to defend them. and these jobs are paying upwards of 200k. even tho it takes time and it sucks it really does pay off in the end.
Thx Evan. My lifelong dream was always to be a lawyer actually an Attorney. But now these days I decided to take the Juris Masters in Healthcare Law route (at Emory University here in GA) instead of going for a JD at Emory. I work with disability and helping people prepare their Social Security disability applications and if people are denied, I appeal their cases, I show up in court to represent them etc…and I get paid directly from the Social Security administration when I win their case (and I don’t need a law degree) don’t need to be a lawyer to do this typo of work. I just have to have a BS degree so anyway, to further continue with my profession in my field I’m going for my JM in Healthcare Law degree, and what’s best for me instead of JD😊
Very good points, but there are different types of law than just criminal lawyers. IP and Contract is huge right now. Criminal lawyers get paid the least out of all, unless you work for a big firm that specializes in defense. Real estate attorneys get paid pretty well too. Many firms and companies hire outside of the top 25 or whatever. Just do the work and get experience and have a plan.
I’m conflicted because at 24 years old I’m seeing that most of life for the average person is mundane and hard anyway; I don’t want to switch career paths in a futile attempt to avoid that. People say the same stuff about coding that you say about law except for how you receive your education. But the rest is the same. “Yeah you get good money, but it’s not worth it unless you really love it bro.” I work with someone at the library right now who switched from coding to be a librarian and he pretty much said what you’re saying about his decision. I understand where you’re coming from though and I appreciate the insight from someone who has experience with this stuff. I really relate to your experiences coming out of undergrad.
For what it's worth, if you are planning to go to law school, I think you should still go. That was my intention when I was in college back in the nineties, but I opted for grad school instead -- big mistake. I've been seeing people posting videos on RUclips and in comments in IT saying jobs are getting scarce. I also know someone who was making a really nice six-figure salary who got laid off several months ago and has yet to find a new position. I worked in a major court system for exactly 30 years, having started as a summer intern when I was in undergrad. Even the lowest paid lawyers on staff and in the county out-earned me. I hired a first-year law student about 10 years ago who now is making six figures and one of the top positions at my old job. I am of the opinion that if you are not working for the government as a lawyer, you have to take an entrepreneurial approach. Think about how real estate agents approach their careers. Lawyers have the ability to sometimes make astronomical amounts of money per hour or per case, but it may take a little hustle.
@@Tes7000 I’m applying for the fall of 2025. Reading and writing have always been my strengths, certainly more than computers lol. I’m taking the September LSAT so hopefully I’m still early enough if I submit my applications late September. I’m pretty confident I’m going to get a good score now that they’ve finally removed logic games, I’m scoring in the high 160s-170s on the most recent practice tests so I’m hoping to fall in that range on test day. With a score like that and my undergrad gpa I should have a good shot at a decent law school.
@@NiteOwl2000 Excellent! I'm glad you are moving forward with this positive step for your career. I'm going to encourage you to take a sharp and clear-eyed look at the costs of whatever institution you choose. Prestige cost more money and could get you a better job straight out of school, but your student loans could be exponentially larger.
Have you thought about trying to get a position in one of the court systems in your city or county? The family courts, probate, deed room, etc., could be good for building a specialty even before you pass the bar. This would also be good if your state requires an internship or a practicum of some kind. It was weird, but at my old job, we rarely had law school students applying for those clerk jobs. As I relayed in an earlier post, when I actually got one, I hired him on the spot, and it worked out really well for us and him.
I wish I had realized what I was doing, that I actually was about to decide what I was going to do as a work. I spent 15 years to become a lawyer and I literally crashed when I realized I got into an office job, which I already as a child knew that I never wanted to be at!! But my dad had so much power over me, he's a sales man .. you know the rest. I am happy I get to recover
@@melawieeinapfel8594 Ok schade, ja ich mach Jus in Österreich, bin schon im 12. Semester und hab fast täglich eine Sinneskrise. Hätte ich doch mal lieber etwas studiert, das mich wirklich interessiert wie Geschichte. Oder etwas, das Geld und gute Arbeitsbedingungen bringt wie Informatik oder auch Medizin. Relatable?
@@uluomu Ich kann dir gut nachfühlen, ich hoffe, es geht bald wieder besser. Manchmal hilft es auch, sich sinnlos zu betrinken haha. Es ist halt so viel Arbeit, ohne dass man etwas zurück bekommt, wie ein Lächeln oder Dankbarkeit, was, das in man in einem Beruf bekommt, Wertschätzung halt. Ich denke, wir Juristen sind es schon längst gewohnt, keine Wertschätzung zu erhalten, so nach dem Motto "nicht kritisiert ist gelobt genug" (keine Sorge, beim Arbeiten wird sich das auch nicht ändern, es wird so bleiben) und leider sind sich dessen, denk ich zumindest, auch viele Kollegen nicht bewusst, nämlich dass die emotionalen Bedürfnisse über sehr lange Zeit nicht erfüllt werden, wir darben. Ich hab mich, trotz allem, dazu entschieden, die Anwaltsprüfung zu machen, aus verschiedenen Gründen. Ich hatte lange Zeit darüber nachgedacht und ich bin zufrieden, dass ich mich der Prüfung gestellt habe, es gehört für mich zum Verarbeitungsprozess. Lass dir Zeit, es gibt diese Krisen, wir haben sie alle. Ich kann dir ans Herz legen, dass du dein Bedürfnis nach Wertschätzung dessen, was du der Welt zu geben hast, stillst, z.B. indem du Freiwilligendienst machst oder bei Aufforstungsprojekten oder was dich persönlich anspricht. Würd mich freuen, was von dir zu lesen, wie es dir ergangen sein wird! Alles Liebe!
@@melawieeinapfel8594 Das mit dem Betrinken stimmt wohl, ja hahah. Ist wie wir beide wissen nur leider keine dauerhafte Lösung. Das mit der fehlenden Wertschätzung stelle ich mir auch schlimm vor. Ich vermute sowohl von den Chefs, den Kollegen als auch den Mandanten under Bevölkerung generell, oder? Es werden einem also die grundlegendsten menschlichen Bedürfnisse entzogen... Gratulation zur Prüfung! Das war sicher ein großer Aufwand. Ich dachte immer in Deutschland würde das 2. Staatsexamen ausreichen, da war ich wohl falsch. Aber auch in Österreich dauert die Anwaltsausbildung nach dem Studium 3-5 Jahre. Freiwilligendienst oder Aufforstungsprojekte hört sich toll an. Darüber habe ich noch nicht so nachgedacht, ist aber sich einer super Möglichkeit, der Welt etwas zurückzugeben. Wie gesagt, eigentlich bin ich eher der Typ, den Geschichte, Politikwissenschaften, Linguistik, etc interessiert. Habe allerdings was ganz anderes gewählt. Naja. Danke jedenfalls für deine Antwort. Alles Liebe zurück!
Also, and no one ever talks about this, in law school you can't appeal a grade - or it's extremely frowned upon. And the grading is subjective, because tests are 90% essays. Imagine taking a subjectively-graded ESSAY test and not being able to appeal your grade... In a setting where people are being taught how to litigate and appeal things!
The problem is people get worthless degrees in college, and end up living at home and working minimum wage jobs. . .so they decide that Law School is the answer. All it gets them is more debt, and more difficulties finding a good job. People literally go to law school because they liked the movie "Legally Blonde". It's pathetic.
Only go to law school if you get admitted to a top 20 law school and attend a top 50, have worked very closely with attorneys in the field you want to enter actually doing the work, and continue to work while in school. Don't pay for law school yourself. I went to a top 50 but was rejected by the best, I worked in a law related field but I was not working directly under lawyers doing law work, I didn't keep working and I paid for school my self. Don't do what I did.
Bottom line for future students: Basically no one gives two shits that you attended FSU Law or Chapel Hill for that matter if you're expecting 1980's era pay (corrected for inflation). Unless you graduate from a top school, the chance that law will give a stellar ROI is a dismal prospect just like Architecture has been. You've law grads today in the lower tier of top 25 law schools making $50k for their first job which is the equiv. of two California teens working part-time at McDonalds. 2nd tier schools? May as well work fast food.
@@fatee5069 You can start with the ABA and the number of law grads working in the field where a JD is required. Again, start with the ABA and that'll get you started down that rabbit hole. Law doesn't pay like it once did. Neither does Architecture. You need a source for that?
This video was extremely helpful. I am considering law school, but for a few of the reasons you said someone shouldn’t. I would like to practice but i consider it one route on a pathway of many options for a career. Thank you for this video!
Thank you so much for this video man. I am going through a quarter-life crisis now that I am finished with my undergrad and you were in the same predicament that I am in except I don't want to make that same mistake. Appreciate the video brotha.
I did recommend computer science in the video but i personally think that a career in the medical field is the best option for anyone going down the traditional path. With computer science, you have to update your skills every 4-5 years. But if you're in the medical field, you don't have to do that.
A career in medicine definitely requires constant learning and certifications to be able to keep practicing…what do you mean you don’t have to update your skills?
This is VERY much incorrect. Especially in medicine you have to stay ahead of the information curve and your skillset evolves constantly. Otherwise you get behind. Clearly you have no idea what you are talking about.
Got into an entry level programming job, pay is in between IT help desk and an experienced schooled dev, I'm one of those people that is told constantly "you should just be a lawyer" and what I want to do is build engines and cars. Glad I'm not the only one "lost" in being directed towards law. I would kill to get to investigate and represent people ripped off and scammed by dealers and shit mechanics. I have considered a model of diagnostics/representative for repair, review estimates etc.
Watching further into the video..."professas making top dolla...not going to risk it to hook up with you." I've decided not to go to law school for this reason.
Summing up your reasons not to go to law school: you can't live out your porn fantasy, loneliness, too much reading lol. Oh and that you can spend less time doing something else and get paid the same or more. However, to that last point, what if you do not like doing any of those other jobs your talking either or any job. One of the biggest problems in life is to find a job that you can really enjoy because most jobs, no matter what they pay, do not seem like anything you will probably truly enjoy. Also,, You know I've heard a lot of people say not to go to law school unless you know you want to be a lawyer and do that job, but how can you really know you want to be a lawyer? especially as a first generation college student/professional school student and not knowing any lawyers. The only way to know is to become a paralegal first I guess, but then it will take you even more time to become a lawyer. But also, paralegals do not get to do all the things lawyers do. I dont know im just thinking while writing.
I think for people who don’t have connections in law, I would say gaining co-op or an internship during undergrad or even highschool at a law firm would be useful so that you could see the day to day of a lawyer and decide whether it is for you
I never been to a law school but I am considering it now, however advising students to become a software developers is a total Misleading” wrong information “ I am an engineer for 10 years now. In my opinion software engineer is the worst career, u just made it sound like a magic. after one campaign All set now u can dev a game. “Totally wrong “ Its not that simple and SW dev is for people who are not social can set in front of the screen for hours trying to fix a small issue. Very Boring Field and you will always be an employee, almost impossible to work on ur own like own ur company- between SW dev and law - I will go for law 💯
I get bored easily and don't like to work very hard, so I guess law school isn't for me lol. I wouldn't even make it as a Juror. I'd be daydreaming the whole time while playing a handheld game that I smuggled into the courtroom.
Some law grads would suggest that if you took student loans for law school, buy a house and refinance it to pay off the student loans. That was even dubious in the 90s where if you had 30,000 in student loans and got a 43,000/year public defender job, but now its blindingly obvious that it is not possible. The stupid public defender job at 90,000 can't even make a dent in 250,000 in student loans so that these simple tricks don't work anymore. In other words, the 250,000 loan payment is around 3,000 per month there's your mortgage already with no house (?), no lender would be stupid enough to lend you anything with that debt much less to buy any house with that type of job, but wants to be a public defender anyway?
You can see why this guy didn’t make it. His argument here is don’t be a lawyer do computer science. Because he’s just chasing money and prestige. His view of law is skewed and so is his law school motivation. His examples of the one day you aren’t prepared in class are obviously him trying to cover up he was rarely ever prepared for class.
You should preface the video telling WHAT law school you attended. Because passing the California bar (congrats) doesn't mean anything if you graduated from some tier 4 law school at the top of your class. If you graduated from Yale, Columbia, Stanford, Harvard, Chicago, Berkeley or the like at the top of your class, then you're probably not going to struggle getting a job, and a lot of your class mates will start at over $100k. You're not going to even remotely have the same job prospect experience if you graduate from Kansas State University or Southern University Law Center whether you're at the top of your class, wrote for the law review, etc.. it's just not the same world/rigor. Long story short - law is for the most part worthless as a career anymore if you're not at a top of the crop school. You mentioned 140 LSAT! What! That's like failing. You need at least a 160 LSAT to get into the better "average" schools, and that kind of score won't even get you in to the best schools usually which have a median LSAT in the 170's. Law as a career is almost as bad today as Architecture. They're practically dead anymore as high paying careers. Look at the LSAT scores for the top PUBLIC LAW SCHOOLS! That'll wake you up to reality ;)
as someone who's grade 10, I really have to decide what course I should get, cuz time is tickling but I am kind of having a hard time deciding what course to take 🤷
Lol chill tf out, you got time. My advice is wait a few years, maybe even just one, before going to school, because you'll be surprised how much you change your mind about it. Maybe if you're rich, just go to school and then keep going to school for things you want to do. But if you're poor, let yourself think about it.
I feel like you are me but as a different version. I was planning on going to law school like 4 years ago (did lsats, got accepted, pay deposit, etc) but once the financial realities set in i didnt go any more. I was depressed but little did i know that would be biggest blessing in my life because can you imagine graduating in the middle of a pandemic? had to do some soul searching but now im spending my time learning to program which is kinda funny to mention because you mention it would have been better to go to a coding bootcamp instead.
Def better to code or do something related to health care, imo. Physicians assistant or something like that. But, law school... unless you're trying to open your own firm or really want to be a lawyer, it's not worth it. You def made the right choice. Law school is so stressful! Finals that require you to memorize so much crap. And the bar exam requires you to memorize even more crap. After all that, there is a struggle. Many lawyers end up doing document review or some average pay job. You def made the right choice. Sign up for Lynda.com to help you with coding bootcamp. Stay active on github after your bootcamp. Keep practicing at least 2 hours a day while you're looking for a job. Github matters a lot.
law school is worth it if you are attending a T14 or a school that is dominant in a certain state or market and you have strong entrance credentials (aka near perfect GPA and LSAT). otherwise, don't bother.
exactly. top tier doesn't even cut it... you better be a grad from the top part of teir 1. Law isn't the career it once was. Now a Stanford grad may get paid $30k more per year than some dude working low-stress 40hr weeks in HR and holidays and weekends free.
This was SO helpful. Thank you for being so honest, and though lewd humor was not my cup of tea, the video was insanely helpful for me sealing the deal on my decision to save myself hundreds of thousands of dollars and 5 years of my life. Thanks again!!
Sorry. I was just trying to make the video less serious lol. I'm like master Roshie from DBZ sometimes. Anyways, glad it gave you more info to make the decision.
Don't go to law school if your only option is one of the low ranking schools. A lot of prestigious law firms and government agencies do not recruit candidates from these schools.
Hey Evan, thanks for your opinion on law school. I do think that it depends on the person. While I haven’t been to law school I do have a Masters and it’s not for everyone but remember everybody’s calling is different especially with the climate of our nation with police shootings and mass incarceration. A lot of your video is negative and that’s all your opinion; remember what comes easy isn’t worth having. Asé
i did say if you want to be a lawyer, be a lawyer. But, if you want to do it just for the money, they it's not a good path to take. And, that is the truth. Ask any lawyer not in tier 1 or 2 law school..
@@flowersinme7332 if you're going into law for the money, app developing makes more sense since it is a shorter time, easier and WAYYY more opportunities. Like i said though, depends on the person. If you really wanna be a lawyer, you gotta go to law school. :)
It's also interesting. I agree with don't go to law school. On the other hand, it does help some people for networking and connections. I enjoyed the experience. It was a change of pace that I needed at the time. As minorities, I feel like we're in a different boat sometimes! Just being honest lol. For me, the tuition is why i tell students to think about going. It's way too high at a lot of schools to justify the expense. I've started to see this conversation more, which is a good thing.
Bro thank you so much for this video. You have completely changed my mind. I don’t know what I want to do yet but I am Going to finish my bachelors and Figure it out . I don’t have a passion for doing paperwork or anything like that Tbh I Just was safe solid money for my family. I don’t have a passion for any profession really. I’ve done retail most of my life and made okay money but I want steady ass money forever, Any advice? I have limited coding knowledge but you are making me think about boot camp
Here is the problem this guy keeps running into even today. He’s just going for the next goal base. On perception. Who cares if coding was rare or not go after the thing you enjoy or make peace with a job that pays well but you don’t like.
Right? I find most of the ppl that make these type of complaints went to law schools with horrible employment prospects… I went to a t14 with free tuition and Im very satisfied with my decision to go to law school. Most of the students in my class got the jobs they wanted.
@@dathunderman4 well T14 full ride is obviously a good choice, no one disputes that. It becomes less clear after T14 but I still think a lot of T30s with a good scholarship are well worth it .. even beyond that tbh
I was gonna go to school to be a paralegal, but I had an illness that lasted a long time and I couldn't go. Lucky thing as it turns out. Someone told me what it was like and he said, "Being a paralegal is not something that you would want to do with, say, your life."
Hello, I really need advice if I want to or if I don't want to study law. God this amount of studying is too much for me and plus I want to become a criminal lawyer ( which is said to get paid the least). I am also one for ethics and I'm most likely to drop the case if I find out I'm defending someone wrong. But I love to think about being a lawyer and fighting for justice in court and also studying cases so can someone pls put in my comments reasons to actually go to law school
You seem very knowledgeable and blunt. What do you think I should do if I have a ba in criminal justice but I wanted to do law school now second guessing
Go back to school for something in STEM or accounting. Or better yet, see if you can learn something in programming or something along that lines. This is because there are a lot of jobs in the government.
I think the advice Pranav gave you is very sound. As for law school, it really is best you don't go unless you can get into a top program. Otherwise, the debt you accumulate will likely be a huge financial liability.
@@rtlau-mk4di Hi there, please don't take my comment the wrong way. Law is a great field. And non-top tier law schools are fine if you looked at the cost and employment data of the schools. Also, some might have programs for very specific specialties of law (environmental, international human rights, American Indian, etc.). Any low-ranked schools can be fine if you paid attention to these factors. But for someone who does not have a passion for the law, law school is a waste of time and money.
Crim Justice? Unless you can get into the top 10, forget law, and get another undergrad in electrical engineering and go from there, and don't let anyone in your family major in something like crim. justice ever again. Otherwise you're just flirting with the poor house and years of debt.
Hi, hello, may I ask, if I am an educator one day, meaning I work full-time, and I decided to still continue with (my part-time my second bachelor-bachelor of law), that will be good, but, after that, I think I can just (work at a law firm as a part-timer/volunteer-one time/two times per year since the school holiday is on mid-year and end-year). I already asked a law firm/law organization in my country, Malaysia and I think only one lawyer so far told me if that law firm is willing to accept me since I will [be working part-time lawyer/volunteering lawyer at that law firm for one time/two times per year to fill my two school holiday time-one(on mid-year) & two(on end-year)], or (maybe, I can fill my holiday working gap on Saturday and Sunday-if I can be able to work part-time/volunteer in a law firm at that time). Thanks lots if you respond to me:D
I am at the end of my Bachelor's in English and I don't know what to do next. Nothing appeals to me anymore.... I looked for all the options and found law was one of them so I thought why not but the more I am understanding about the law less I'm liking it. Anything to suggest? Would be helpful.
Suggestions. look into your options some more. You gotta pick the path or else you won't be too into it. An English bachelor is like a communication bachelor(what is what I had) but not as bad. The options are few with English. There is like...teaching in high school, which is def not for everyone. Medical and tech are always in demand. Also, UX design is super hot right now. Best of luck! With the work you put into law school, you literally can do anything with less effort. But, if you want to be a lawyer, there are no other options. :)
@@EvanRamani thanks. Nope not looking forward to law anymore. I need to see what's more left. In my country, system doesn't work like that after Bachelors (of Humanities) a student can't enter the science field. The field Science needs to be choose after 10th grade and For respective Engineering/Medical Nationwide exams are held which after qualifying one gets the seats in the medical of engineering institute. So I don't pretty much have options after Bachelors in English
Hi Evan, thank you for this video! What do you recommend for someone who wants to delve into IP/tech law? Does ranking matter, and what's my best bet to land a job in this field? Are there any skills I should develop outside of attending law school?
This video was a waste of time just like law school lol. Just kidding, thanks for the information and putting your blood sweat and tears into it so others don't have to.
I want to put criminals away. I don’t care if I make 50k for life, that’s like the 70%th percentile of individual incomes in America. If I work for a small government, I’ll be doing 40 clean hours a week, and get PSLF. idc about prestige or a super salary, and I’m so happy I can do what I like for a fair salary
I was 31 when I started law school and 34 when I finished. I enjoyed my time in law school immensely. I had been a practicing acccountant for ten years prior to law school. I went to law school as an academic pursuit and I had no desire to practice law and sacrifice my life on the altar of partnership track billable hours. Instead, I was blessed to get a job as a college professor teaching tax and business law, and getting a JD gave me instant credibility in academia. And last year, at age 57, I was blessed to get an LL.M. in tax. So for me, law school put me on the career path I enjoy to this day. That's my $0.03.
Thanks for sharing your story! I was a legal assistant for 10 yrs (while getting my master in public health part time). I even studied data science to be more marketable, but it has been HARD to break into public health (with law experience, you get pigeonholed). However I got an amazing paid internship due to my legal experience in the WBG's global health office. It really opened my eyes how rare and needed law professionals are needed in public health. I'm biting the bullet and giving law school admissions a chance at 36. Your story is so relatable and gives me hope.
@@pcarebear1 Glad I was able to help. If you do go to law school, the fact that you have work experience and life experience will put you ahead of the curve.
Happy to hear that it worked out for you
Thank you so much for sharing such a great, I'm glad that worked out so well for you, you had a clear idea of where you were going. I am interested in your opinion on this: Do you think it is better for recent 22 year old college graduates to go to a traditional 3 year full time day law school with summers off whereas those entering later i.e. going to law school while working are better suited to part-time, flexible, evening, accelerated summer/intersession programs, etc. ? It would appear that the makeup of your class wouldn't matter as what kind of somebody elses are in your class since you have to pass the exams, etc. . . Also for those already working if they are paying as they go by writing a check each semester instead of student loans that would be a lot of extra money from what they are already doing, would law school make sense there?
@@michaelethangross3395 Thank you for the kind words. I don't know that there is a one size fits all answer to your question. Law schools accept applicants of all ages based on undergraduate GPA, LSAT scores, and work experience, among other factors. In my opinion, I think it is better for a recent college graduate to wait at least a year before starting law school. This is because law school is completely different from college, as the typical reading requirement is around 100 pages per week, per course (Contracts, Torts, Property, Civil Procedure, Legal Writing). Also, most law classes typically have only one exam at the end of the semester that is 100% of the class grade. Thus, whatever last-minute cramming for college exams would be completely worthless in law school, as law school requires hours of daily study outside of class.
As to older students going at night after working all day, I think it is much better to pay as you go as opposed to taking out loans (as I did when I pursued my LL.M.) as long as one has the income stream and savings to. be able to do so. Additionally, law school is a lot more expensive now than it was when I was in law school. Conservatively, law school tuition is anywhere between $40 to $60K per year, so do your research and look at the pros and cons on all sides to determine whether it is worth it for you.
Hope that helps.
If you listen to this guy’s reasons, it’s clear that HE should never have gone to law school
😂😂
when I heard the word ‘income’, I knew.
Why is no one talking about the part where he says law school is bad because YOU CANT HOOK UP WITH YOUR PROFESSORS???? Like whAT kind of reason is that????
Grow up kid
That's wild! I never heard of students hooking with teachers I'm sure it happens but that's wild he would talk about that 😂
Seriously weird. Wtf is wrong with people. Of course you shouldn't be sleeping with someone who has power over you like that.
RIGHT????
I was thinking the same lmao
NOT editing out the rambling section on the possibility of hooking up with your professor is what I came here for
Pretty much, this video is about the guy being lost and just went to law school and regretted it.
Lol, that’s what I gathered from it.
i don't know why people hate the skilled trades (electrician, plumber, mechanic, etc.) so much.
i work in a trade, and also sell home cooked food. i make $120k a year (pre-tax), and have zero student loan debt. i thank God i never cared about things like prestige and status. i was always a dumb person, so college was never for me anyway. i'm glad and grateful things worked out for me tho.
I agree I defiantly would have went if I didn't play football in college
You're not "dumb". You have practical skills and common sense. Some people may be intellectual but lack capability.
Which trade? I couldn’t agree with you more.
I think the trades are great, and advocate that young kids graduate HS a year early, get a trade, and then go for an undergraduate degree. My life experience has led me down an undraditional path. I own my own mobility-based massage therapy and personal training business, having returned to this field after a 12 year layoff from it while I was doing executive management operations. I set myself up to work this business, help people with their mobility issues, while I prep to take the LSAT. I've attained many of my life goals, and my youngest child is close to HS. I finally have the time and freedom to study law. I've always been driven to public defender work, and believe that's my an end goal drive for me. I've attained my creature comforts as an older adult, I have the house and the kids are grown. Now I can focus on fulfilling my ultimate passion of helping the indigent.
you may always be breaking ur back to make your living. health is wealth! when you take some of these more academic routes wether it be medical doctor, juris doctor, engineer its gonna keep paying years down the line. and the skill that you actually have is the most valuable among other trades. people will always get sick or need someone to defend them. and these jobs are paying upwards of 200k. even tho it takes time and it sucks it really does pay off in the end.
Thx Evan. My lifelong dream was always to be a lawyer actually an Attorney. But now these days I decided to take the Juris Masters in Healthcare Law route (at Emory University here in GA) instead of going for a JD at Emory. I work with disability and helping people prepare their Social Security disability applications and if people are denied, I appeal their cases, I show up in court to represent them etc…and I get paid directly from the Social Security administration when I win their case (and I don’t need a law degree) don’t need to be a lawyer to do this typo of work. I just have to have a BS degree so anyway, to further continue with my profession in my field I’m going for my JM in Healthcare Law degree, and what’s best for me instead of JD😊
You're 100% right. You should not have gone to Law School. As long as I know you read this, you can delete it like you did my other comment.
Very good points, but there are different types of law than just criminal lawyers. IP and Contract is huge right now. Criminal lawyers get paid the least out of all, unless you work for a big firm that specializes in defense. Real estate attorneys get paid pretty well too. Many firms and companies hire outside of the top 25 or whatever. Just do the work and get experience and have a plan.
I’m conflicted because at 24 years old I’m seeing that most of life for the average person is mundane and hard anyway; I don’t want to switch career paths in a futile attempt to avoid that. People say the same stuff about coding that you say about law except for how you receive your education. But the rest is the same. “Yeah you get good money, but it’s not worth it unless you really love it bro.” I work with someone at the library right now who switched from coding to be a librarian and he pretty much said what you’re saying about his decision. I understand where you’re coming from though and I appreciate the insight from someone who has experience with this stuff. I really relate to your experiences coming out of undergrad.
For what it's worth, if you are planning to go to law school, I think you should still go. That was my intention when I was in college back in the nineties, but I opted for grad school instead -- big mistake.
I've been seeing people posting videos on RUclips and in comments in IT saying jobs are getting scarce. I also know someone who was making a really nice six-figure salary who got laid off several months ago and has yet to find a new position.
I worked in a major court system for exactly 30 years, having started as a summer intern when I was in undergrad. Even the lowest paid lawyers on staff and in the county out-earned me. I hired a first-year law student about 10 years ago who now is making six figures and one of the top positions at my old job.
I am of the opinion that if you are not working for the government as a lawyer, you have to take an entrepreneurial approach. Think about how real estate agents approach their careers. Lawyers have the ability to sometimes make astronomical amounts of money per hour or per case, but it may take a little hustle.
@@Tes7000 I’m applying for the fall of 2025. Reading and writing have always been my strengths, certainly more than computers lol. I’m taking the September LSAT so hopefully I’m still early enough if I submit my applications late September. I’m pretty confident I’m going to get a good score now that they’ve finally removed logic games, I’m scoring in the high 160s-170s on the most recent practice tests so I’m hoping to fall in that range on test day. With a score like that and my undergrad gpa I should have a good shot at a decent law school.
@@NiteOwl2000 Excellent! I'm glad you are moving forward with this positive step for your career. I'm going to encourage you to take a sharp and clear-eyed look at the costs of whatever institution you choose. Prestige cost more money and could get you a better job straight out of school, but your student loans could be exponentially larger.
Have you thought about trying to get a position in one of the court systems in your city or county? The family courts, probate, deed room, etc., could be good for building a specialty even before you pass the bar. This would also be good if your state requires an internship or a practicum of some kind.
It was weird, but at my old job, we rarely had law school students applying for those clerk jobs. As I relayed in an earlier post, when I actually got one, I hired him on the spot, and it worked out really well for us and him.
You are right. You didn't belong in law school.
I wish I had realized what I was doing, that I actually was about to decide what I was going to do as a work. I spent 15 years to become a lawyer and I literally crashed when I realized I got into an office job, which I already as a child knew that I never wanted to be at!! But my dad had so much power over me, he's a sales man .. you know the rest. I am happy I get to recover
Hey! So are you working as a lawyer now? Arbeitest du jetzt als Rechtsanwalt/Rechtsanwältin?
@@uluomu Hey, no I'm not working as a lawyer. Ich arbeite nicht als Anwältin, weiss grad noch nicht, wie's weiter geht. Machst du auch Jura?
@@melawieeinapfel8594 Ok schade, ja ich mach Jus in Österreich, bin schon im 12. Semester und hab fast täglich eine Sinneskrise.
Hätte ich doch mal lieber etwas studiert, das mich wirklich interessiert wie Geschichte. Oder etwas, das Geld und gute Arbeitsbedingungen bringt wie Informatik oder auch Medizin.
Relatable?
@@uluomu Ich kann dir gut nachfühlen, ich hoffe, es geht bald wieder besser. Manchmal hilft es auch, sich sinnlos zu betrinken haha. Es ist halt so viel Arbeit, ohne dass man etwas zurück bekommt, wie ein Lächeln oder Dankbarkeit, was, das in man in einem Beruf bekommt, Wertschätzung halt. Ich denke, wir Juristen sind es schon längst gewohnt, keine Wertschätzung zu erhalten, so nach dem Motto "nicht kritisiert ist gelobt genug" (keine Sorge, beim Arbeiten wird sich das auch nicht ändern, es wird so bleiben) und leider sind sich dessen, denk ich zumindest, auch viele Kollegen nicht bewusst, nämlich dass die emotionalen Bedürfnisse über sehr lange Zeit nicht erfüllt werden, wir darben.
Ich hab mich, trotz allem, dazu entschieden, die Anwaltsprüfung zu machen, aus verschiedenen Gründen. Ich hatte lange Zeit darüber nachgedacht und ich bin zufrieden, dass ich mich der Prüfung gestellt habe, es gehört für mich zum Verarbeitungsprozess.
Lass dir Zeit, es gibt diese Krisen, wir haben sie alle. Ich kann dir ans Herz legen, dass du dein Bedürfnis nach Wertschätzung dessen, was du der Welt zu geben hast, stillst, z.B. indem du Freiwilligendienst machst oder bei Aufforstungsprojekten oder was dich persönlich anspricht. Würd mich freuen, was von dir zu lesen, wie es dir ergangen sein wird!
Alles Liebe!
@@melawieeinapfel8594 Das mit dem Betrinken stimmt wohl, ja hahah. Ist wie wir beide wissen nur leider keine dauerhafte Lösung.
Das mit der fehlenden Wertschätzung stelle ich mir auch schlimm vor. Ich vermute sowohl von den Chefs, den Kollegen als auch den Mandanten under Bevölkerung generell, oder?
Es werden einem also die grundlegendsten menschlichen Bedürfnisse entzogen...
Gratulation zur Prüfung! Das war sicher ein großer Aufwand. Ich dachte immer in Deutschland würde das 2. Staatsexamen ausreichen, da war ich wohl falsch. Aber auch in Österreich dauert die Anwaltsausbildung nach dem Studium 3-5 Jahre.
Freiwilligendienst oder Aufforstungsprojekte hört sich toll an. Darüber habe ich noch nicht so nachgedacht, ist aber sich einer super Möglichkeit, der Welt etwas zurückzugeben.
Wie gesagt, eigentlich bin ich eher der Typ, den Geschichte, Politikwissenschaften, Linguistik, etc interessiert. Habe allerdings was ganz anderes gewählt. Naja.
Danke jedenfalls für deine Antwort.
Alles Liebe zurück!
Also, and no one ever talks about this, in law school you can't appeal a grade - or it's extremely frowned upon. And the grading is subjective, because tests are 90% essays. Imagine taking a subjectively-graded ESSAY test and not being able to appeal your grade... In a setting where people are being taught how to litigate and appeal things!
The problem is people get worthless degrees in college, and end up living at home and working minimum wage jobs. . .so they decide that Law School is the answer. All it gets them is more debt, and more difficulties finding a good job. People literally go to law school because they liked the movie "Legally Blonde". It's pathetic.
Suites 😅
Only go to law school if you get admitted to a top 20 law school and attend a top 50,
have worked very closely with attorneys in the field you want to enter actually doing the work,
and continue to work while in school. Don't pay for law school yourself.
I went to a top 50 but was rejected by the best, I worked in a law related field but I was not working directly under lawyers doing law work, I didn't keep working and I paid for school my self.
Don't do what I did.
Interesting
Bottom line for future students: Basically no one gives two shits that you attended FSU Law or Chapel Hill for that matter if you're expecting 1980's era pay (corrected for inflation). Unless you graduate from a top school, the chance that law will give a stellar ROI is a dismal prospect just like Architecture has been. You've law grads today in the lower tier of top 25 law schools making $50k for their first job which is the equiv. of two California teens working part-time at McDonalds.
2nd tier schools? May as well work fast food.
Sources?
@@fatee5069 You can start with the ABA and the number of law grads working in the field where a JD is required. Again, start with the ABA and that'll get you started down that rabbit hole. Law doesn't pay like it once did. Neither does Architecture. You need a source for that?
This guy does not want to work, he wants to get laid
This video was extremely helpful. I am considering law school, but for a few of the reasons you said someone shouldn’t. I would like to practice but i consider it one route on a pathway of many options for a career. Thank you for this video!
Thank you so much for this video man. I am going through a quarter-life crisis now that I am finished with my undergrad and you were in the same predicament that I am in except I don't want to make that same mistake. Appreciate the video brotha.
Thank you for this video I think it was a reality check for me
no prob. :)
I did recommend computer science in the video but i personally think that a career in the medical field is the best option for anyone going down the traditional path. With computer science, you have to update your skills every 4-5 years. But if you're in the medical field, you don't have to do that.
1 year and I'm a BSN RN!!
Okay so healthcare is the best for someone who wants steady money and traditional family lifestyle v?
Only issue is getting in to med. It's like trying to win the lottery getting through admissions.
A career in medicine definitely requires constant learning and certifications to be able to keep practicing…what do you mean you don’t have to update your skills?
This is VERY much incorrect. Especially in medicine you have to stay ahead of the information curve and your skillset evolves constantly. Otherwise you get behind.
Clearly you have no idea what you are talking about.
Got into an entry level programming job, pay is in between IT help desk and an experienced schooled dev, I'm one of those people that is told constantly "you should just be a lawyer" and what I want to do is build engines and cars. Glad I'm not the only one "lost" in being directed towards law. I would kill to get to investigate and represent people ripped off and scammed by dealers and shit mechanics. I have considered a model of diagnostics/representative for repair, review estimates etc.
Well I mean I wasted 8 years of my life in the Army. Law School is definitely the better route/choice.
Sometimes people study law because of passion, Its really hard going to Law school.
"Save some gangsters"..."open a business"...you sold me on dropping out of coding school and going to law school.
Watching further into the video..."professas making top dolla...not going to risk it to hook up with you." I've decided not to go to law school for this reason.
Summing up your reasons not to go to law school: you can't live out your porn fantasy, loneliness, too much reading lol. Oh and that you can spend less time doing something else and get paid the same or more.
However, to that last point, what if you do not like doing any of those other jobs your talking either or any job. One of the biggest problems in life is to find a job that you can really enjoy because most jobs, no matter what they pay, do not seem like anything you will probably truly enjoy.
Also,, You know I've heard a lot of people say not to go to law school unless you know you want to be a lawyer and do that job, but how can you really know you want to be a lawyer? especially as a first generation college student/professional school student and not knowing any lawyers. The only way to know is to become a paralegal first I guess, but then it will take you even more time to become a lawyer. But also, paralegals do not get to do all the things lawyers do. I dont know im just thinking while writing.
I think for people who don’t have connections in law, I would say gaining co-op or an internship during undergrad or even highschool at a law firm would be useful so that you could see the day to day of a lawyer and decide whether it is for you
sounds like you like law, im in it right now and I hate it and will literally rather do anything else lol.
@@apr2047 Sucks for you.
Once you said coding boot camp I was out
why
I never been to a law school but I am considering it now, however advising students to become a software developers is a total Misleading” wrong information “
I am an engineer for 10 years now.
In my opinion software engineer is the worst career, u just made it sound like a magic. after one campaign All set now u can dev a game.
“Totally wrong “
Its not that simple and SW dev is for people who are not social can set in front of the screen for hours trying to fix a small issue.
Very Boring Field and you will always be an employee, almost impossible to work on ur own like own ur company- between SW dev and law - I will go for law 💯
I get what you are saying but for computer science a camp only gets you so far, they also have very hard exams to get a job
Yea like tech interviews right
Character Committee is also a problem for a few people, even without felonies/mm/substance abuse issues.
I get bored easily and don't like to work very hard, so I guess law school isn't for me lol. I wouldn't even make it as a Juror. I'd be daydreaming the whole time while playing a handheld game that I smuggled into the courtroom.
lol. You can get serious when you want though.
handheld game? ☹️
@@hi-ew3uw Ya. Like a Neo Geo Pocket, Atari Lynx, Nokia N-Gage, or whatever kids play these days.
You just described me 😂
Describes my severe ADHD 🤣😂
I bailed out of college in my junior year. Now I'm better off than most of my peers financially.
Some law grads would suggest that if you took student loans for law school, buy a house and refinance it to pay off the student loans. That was even dubious in the 90s where if you had 30,000 in student loans and got a 43,000/year public defender job, but now its blindingly obvious that it is not possible. The stupid public defender job at 90,000 can't even make a dent in 250,000 in student loans so that these simple tricks don't work anymore. In other words, the 250,000 loan payment is around 3,000 per month there's your mortgage already with no house (?), no lender would be stupid enough to lend you anything with that debt much less to buy any house with that type of job, but wants to be a public defender anyway?
You can see why this guy didn’t make it. His argument here is don’t be a lawyer do computer science. Because he’s just chasing money and prestige. His view of law is skewed and so is his law school motivation. His examples of the one day you aren’t prepared in class are obviously him trying to cover up he was rarely ever prepared for class.
You should preface the video telling WHAT law school you attended. Because passing the California bar (congrats) doesn't mean anything if you graduated from some tier 4 law school at the top of your class. If you graduated from Yale, Columbia, Stanford, Harvard, Chicago, Berkeley or the like at the top of your class, then you're probably not going to struggle getting a job, and a lot of your class mates will start at over $100k. You're not going to even remotely have the same job prospect experience if you graduate from Kansas State University or Southern University Law Center whether you're at the top of your class, wrote for the law review, etc.. it's just not the same world/rigor. Long story short - law is for the most part worthless as a career anymore if you're not at a top of the crop school. You mentioned 140 LSAT! What! That's like failing. You need at least a 160 LSAT to get into the better "average" schools, and that kind of score won't even get you in to the best schools usually which have a median LSAT in the 170's. Law as a career is almost as bad today as Architecture. They're practically dead anymore as high paying careers. Look at the LSAT scores for the top PUBLIC LAW SCHOOLS! That'll wake you up to reality ;)
Average salary for a coder in my area is around 50,000 not anywhere near a lawyer’s pay 😳
as someone who's grade 10, I really have to decide what course I should get, cuz time is tickling but I am kind of having a hard time deciding what course to take 🤷
Me to and I’m in grade 11😭
@@joshuamac528 😆
Lol chill tf out, you got time. My advice is wait a few years, maybe even just one, before going to school, because you'll be surprised how much you change your mind about it. Maybe if you're rich, just go to school and then keep going to school for things you want to do. But if you're poor, let yourself think about it.
If you’re not lost and need money, then go to law school.
I feel like you are me but as a different version. I was planning on going to law school like 4 years ago (did lsats, got accepted, pay deposit, etc) but once the financial realities set in i didnt go any more. I was depressed but little did i know that would be biggest blessing in my life because can you imagine graduating in the middle of a pandemic? had to do some soul searching but now im spending my time learning to program which is kinda funny to mention because you mention it would have been better to go to a coding bootcamp instead.
Def better to code or do something related to health care, imo. Physicians assistant or something like that. But, law school... unless you're trying to open your own firm or really want to be a lawyer, it's not worth it. You def made the right choice. Law school is so stressful! Finals that require you to memorize so much crap. And the bar exam requires you to memorize even more crap. After all that, there is a struggle. Many lawyers end up doing document review or some average pay job. You def made the right choice. Sign up for Lynda.com to help you with coding bootcamp. Stay active on github after your bootcamp. Keep practicing at least 2 hours a day while you're looking for a job. Github matters a lot.
Thanks for such entertaining video. Incredibly funny people think you were serious about relations with profs 🤣😂
Sounds like you shouldn't have gone to law school
law school is worth it if you are attending a T14 or a school that is dominant in a certain state or market and you have strong entrance credentials (aka near perfect GPA and LSAT). otherwise, don't bother.
if you arent a graduate from a top tier law school forget about getting a job.
exactly. top tier doesn't even cut it... you better be a grad from the top part of teir 1. Law isn't the career it once was. Now a Stanford grad may get paid $30k more per year than some dude working low-stress 40hr weeks in HR and holidays and weekends free.
Huh? What “job” are you even talking about?
@akshaynatu1084 you have no idea what’s going on here summer child
This was SO helpful. Thank you for being so honest, and though lewd humor was not my cup of tea, the video was insanely helpful for me sealing the deal on my decision to save myself hundreds of thousands of dollars and 5 years of my life. Thanks again!!
Sorry. I was just trying to make the video less serious lol. I'm like master Roshie from DBZ sometimes. Anyways, glad it gave you more info to make the decision.
What did you decide to do instead?
thank you for your story, law school isn't this magnificent glorious thing its made out to be. thank you
Thank you bro. Saved my 5 years. Have been in this dilemma for a year now.
Ohk now I'm rethinking things. Thank you.
Sorry buddy but I'm just going see for myself do law school see if I regret it later, no one stopped you right?
As you stated earlier in this video, I think some profession are like calling. Not just for the money 💴 particular, doctors 🥼 and lawyers .
Liberal arts degrees are fine if you have practical minors and/or graduate degrees in practical areas.
Don't go to law school if your only option is one of the low ranking schools. A lot of prestigious law firms and government agencies do not recruit candidates from these schools.
Says who
This has helped me tremendously, thank you.
Hey Evan, thanks for your opinion on law school. I do think that it depends on the person. While I haven’t been to law school I do have a Masters and it’s not for everyone but remember everybody’s calling is different especially with the climate of our nation with police shootings and mass incarceration. A lot of your video is negative and that’s all your opinion; remember what comes easy isn’t worth having. Asé
I agree with this. You’ll literally have to put work in for any job. Who wants to be an app developer lol?
i did say if you want to be a lawyer, be a lawyer. But, if you want to do it just for the money, they it's not a good path to take. And, that is the truth. Ask any lawyer not in tier 1 or 2 law school..
@@flowersinme7332 if you're going into law for the money, app developing makes more sense since it is a shorter time, easier and WAYYY more opportunities. Like i said though, depends on the person. If you really wanna be a lawyer, you gotta go to law school. :)
The technology field has it's own problems though.
It's also interesting. I agree with don't go to law school. On the other hand, it does help some people for networking and connections. I enjoyed the experience.
It was a change of pace that I needed at the time. As minorities, I feel like we're in a different boat sometimes! Just being honest lol.
For me, the tuition is why i tell students to think about going. It's way too high at a lot of schools to justify the expense. I've started to see this conversation more, which is a good thing.
This video was very helpful! Thanks!
Dude, coding is not a long term career.
true. tech is though. Health care is safer probably. Something in the x ray department pays well and is less stressful.
You are bragging because why did it matter that you passed 2 on the first try.
Didn't stop Fani Willis
Was his point you can’t sleep with professors? Did he seriously think law was like that?
Only the top 15 are worthwhile.
i agree. maybe top 20 lol
I would say top 20
Thank you for your transparency
You couldn't just find a job using your bachelors degree?
California Bar pass rate spring 2022 was ~26% CAN YOU EVEN IMAGINE!?
You did not just say one of the downsides is that you can't sleep with a professor.... wtf bro.
Summary : Unless you really like Law, and can get into a Top 14 school, don't go to Law School.
Bro thank you so much for this video. You have completely changed my mind. I don’t know what I want to do yet but I am
Going to finish my bachelors and Figure it out . I don’t have a passion for doing paperwork or anything like that
Tbh I Just was safe solid money for my family. I don’t have a passion for any profession really.
I’ve done retail most of my life and made okay money but I want steady ass money forever,
Any advice?
I have limited coding knowledge but you are making me think about boot camp
Best advice i ever gotten was whatever you do do it passionately never be mediocre
Here is the problem this guy keeps running into even today. He’s just going for the next goal base. On perception. Who cares if coding was rare or not go after the thing you enjoy or make peace with a job that pays well but you don’t like.
What law school did u go to? I mean I do not recommend anyone go to a T3 school… but if you get good money at a T50 you’re fine.
Right? I find most of the ppl that make these type of complaints went to law schools with horrible employment prospects…
I went to a t14 with free tuition and Im very satisfied with my decision to go to law school. Most of the students in my class got the jobs they wanted.
@@dathunderman4 well T14 full ride is obviously a good choice, no one disputes that. It becomes less clear after T14 but I still think a lot of T30s with a good scholarship are well worth it .. even beyond that tbh
I was gonna go to school to be a paralegal, but I had an illness that lasted a long time and I couldn't go.
Lucky thing as it turns out.
Someone told me what it was like and he said, "Being a paralegal is not something that you would want to do with, say, your life."
Paralegal? Oh my. Never invest in a job that generally pays peanuts.
It sounds like he was just more interested in computers
my christian bro you are having some good videos ,this seems like radio programme
Thanks for this nice video.What happens if you don’t get a good grade in final exams?
Hello,
I really need advice if I want to or if I don't want to study law. God this amount of studying is too much for me and plus I want to become a criminal lawyer ( which is said to get paid the least). I am also one for ethics and I'm most likely to drop the case if I find out I'm defending someone wrong.
But I love to think about being a lawyer and fighting for justice in court and also studying cases so can someone pls put in my comments reasons to actually go to law school
Excellent analysis
You seem very knowledgeable and blunt. What do you think I should do if I have a ba in criminal justice but I wanted to do law school now second guessing
Go back to school for something in STEM or accounting. Or better yet, see if you can learn something in programming or something along that lines. This is because there are a lot of jobs in the government.
I think the advice Pranav gave you is very sound.
As for law school, it really is best you don't go unless you can get into a top program. Otherwise, the debt you accumulate will likely be a huge financial liability.
@@rtlau-mk4di Hi there, please don't take my comment the wrong way. Law is a great field. And non-top tier law schools are fine if you looked at the cost and employment data of the schools. Also, some might have programs for very specific specialties of law (environmental, international human rights, American Indian, etc.). Any low-ranked schools can be fine if you paid attention to these factors. But for someone who does not have a passion for the law, law school is a waste of time and money.
Crim Justice? Unless you can get into the top 10, forget law, and get another undergrad in electrical engineering and go from there, and don't let anyone in your family major in something like crim. justice ever again. Otherwise you're just flirting with the poor house and years of debt.
Hi, hello, may I ask, if I am an educator one day, meaning I work full-time, and I decided to still continue with (my part-time my second bachelor-bachelor of law), that will be good, but, after that, I think I can just (work at a law firm as a part-timer/volunteer-one time/two times per year since the school holiday is on mid-year and end-year). I already asked a law firm/law organization in my country, Malaysia and I think only one lawyer so far told me if that law firm is willing to accept me since I will [be working part-time lawyer/volunteering lawyer at that law firm for one time/two times per year to fill my two school holiday time-one(on mid-year) & two(on end-year)], or (maybe, I can fill my holiday working gap on Saturday and Sunday-if I can be able to work part-time/volunteer in a law firm at that time). Thanks lots if you respond to me:D
Lol at the stripping thought
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I am at the end of my Bachelor's in English and I don't know what to do next. Nothing appeals to me anymore.... I looked for all the options and found law was one of them so I thought why not but the more I am understanding about the law less I'm liking it. Anything to suggest? Would be helpful.
Suggestions. look into your options some more. You gotta pick the path or else you won't be too into it. An English bachelor is like a communication bachelor(what is what I had) but not as bad. The options are few with English. There is like...teaching in high school, which is def not for everyone. Medical and tech are always in demand. Also, UX design is super hot right now. Best of luck! With the work you put into law school, you literally can do anything with less effort. But, if you want to be a lawyer, there are no other options. :)
@@EvanRamani thanks. Nope not looking forward to law anymore. I need to see what's more left. In my country, system doesn't work like that after Bachelors (of Humanities) a student can't enter the science field. The field Science needs to be choose after 10th grade and For respective Engineering/Medical Nationwide exams are held which after qualifying one gets the seats in the medical of engineering institute. So I don't pretty much have options after Bachelors in English
Hi Evan, thank you for this video! What do you recommend for someone who wants to delve into IP/tech law? Does ranking matter, and what's my best bet to land a job in this field? Are there any skills I should develop outside of attending law school?
I am in the same situation i hope we get a reply!
Bad advice…
why?
@@zaram2806I don’t remember why I thought it was bad advice, it’s honestly good advice watching again
A J.D. is better for a Big Bank job than an MBA!
This video was a waste of time just like law school lol. Just kidding, thanks for the information and putting your blood sweat and tears into it so others don't have to.
Bad idea all around. Don’t waste your time or money.
Great stuff bro
Ugh? I wanna be a lawyer to put criminal in jail? What lol
I want to put criminals away. I don’t care if I make 50k for life, that’s like the 70%th percentile of individual incomes in America. If I work for a small government, I’ll be doing 40 clean hours a week, and get PSLF. idc about prestige or a super salary, and I’m so happy I can do what I like for a fair salary
It was very helpful
helpful.. thanks
no way you wanted to become a lawyer to have sex with a divorcee
What isnthe law
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In this video u have info of fornication and adultery
Read the k.j.v.
Wtf are you talking about??
Damn, this was super negative. Oh well.
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