One caution. When using a Slat diffuser if the the spacing is the same there is an augmented reverberation of a specific frequency. That frequency is determined by the measurement of the spacing, depth of the slats, etc. If you run a sweep with and without them you should be able to see it.
@@Heliosvector In audio testing, a sweep refers to a test signal where a tone (usually a sine wave) continuously sweeps across a range of frequencies, typically from low to high (or vice versa), over a specified time. It is used to measure frequency response, distortion, and other audio characteristics.
First of all I do think they look good and seem easy to install. However given how thin these panels are there are just absorbing the highest frequencies leaving the mid and base frequencies untouched and I think that is mainly the "improvement" in sound that you are experiencing, more dominant bass frequencies and less tinny frequencies from notoriously poor TV speakers. The main use of sound absorbing panels are, as you say to reduce reverberation (echo), and they are also usually placed at the first reflection points of the speakers to absorb unwanted sound reflections and improve the stereo image. The fact that these panels do some limited absorption as well as diffusion is bonus. I use a similar looking panel from GIK acoustics, the difference being these panels are 4 inches thick, probably thicker than the average consumer would want to have in a non dedicated media room but required if you want to absorb more evenly across the frequency range although at 4 inches they are still too thin to absorb below 80hz.
Slats, not slate. Slate is a type of rock, commonly used as a construction material. Slats are long thin narrow strips of wood or other material. Slatwall is a wall covering used in retail and sometimes in workshops or garages that has horizontal groves with T-slots or L slots that you can insert metal brackets into to support shelves, hooks, tool holders, etc.; this is somewhat similar to french cleats but with a much narrower gap between boards and the slats are normally part of panels with multiple slats. Also similar to pegboard which has holes instead of t-slots or beveled edges. Wood slats, slatted wood, or wall slats could refer to a wall surface that is covered in slats, or the surface covering, but is not designed to hang things.
Way too thin to block noise. the noise that often bothers people is the lower frequency range and these will pass through these panels as if there were not there. I use 4 inch thick slatfusors from GIK acoustics and they only absorb down to 80Hz (kick drum frequency).
Just wrapped two walls with these - not specifically for the for the sound properties, but that's a huge added benefit. Plus they're wrapping a powder room, so hopefully they decrease the amount of sound transferring out of there a little.... 😄
@@wh0tube oh geez. I was just going to put some up inside the bathroom next to the toilet. Looking for waterproof ones though, for obvious reasons. I'm encasing my master bedroom in this stuff from the outside. the door will be covered on both sides. Hidden door style.
Great demo! I have a box of these same panels in my trunk right now, planning to put a row of them behind my desktop speakers. One box covers about 2 x 8 feet, just about perfect. Cheers from Ottawa! 🇨🇦
I'll be honest, I don't understand how this demo showcased the products affectiveness when they're being placed in drastically different locations One panel type was placed around the TV speaker and the other panel type was placed directly behind the TV speaker.
Thanks mate 🙏🏻🙏🏻🙏🏻 I’ve just discovered your channel last week whilst trying to navigate my renovation game plan with soundproofing in mind and all your videos have been extremely helpful and eye opening with regards to what I should prioritize within my budget. Looking forward to the soundproofing capabilities of these panels. There’s a wall behind which the elevator of the building moves through and I couldn’t insulate without taking the crown moldings off, so I just left it. But anytime someone takes the elevator I can hear it 😞😞😞 So I’ve tried putting the library there…. Was thinking of slapping on MLV (but it’s so ugly even when it’s painted and has to covered somehow 🙃🙃🙃) So if those panels might deafen the sound significantly it could be a pretty economical and esthetic solution (maybe even combining with MLV underneath) hopefully 🤞🏻😇 Be blessed 🕊️💫
Incredible video man! Thanks for putting this up and for always posting the products. Random question: What color/brand paint is that besides the TV? Love how that looks with the panel
This was a good and helpful video!! It def looks better with the wood panels!! 🎉. I think the best take from this video is how much those panels help with the sound quality of your tv speakers!! 🎉 Ps. Curious if they actually do anything for sound deadening via spl levels on the other side of the wall! 🎉
I’ll be trying them on another wall where I can test if they are also good at blocking sound. They made a big difference with the sound quality of the speaker’s and probably won’t be buying a sound bar for that room.
It looks like you are using 24" x 24" modules of wood slats. The links provided are ~94.5" length module. Can you share precisely what you used in the video?
Thanks for the video. Would these work well in reducing nose transfer between the space in the living room which is in the main floor and upstairs bedrooms? My house is open concept and my wife complains about hearing the TV playing on the main floor as she is trying to sleep upstairs.
The wooden "diffusor" looks nice, but it has too little depth and all the slats are spaced equally. The tiny bit of felt behind the wood will likely absorb the very highest frequency, bur nothing more than that, and the diffusion will also only work in a very narrow band. Having the regular pattern will add another issue known as "lobing" so it might actually make the sound worse in some areas. If all you use is a built-in TV Speaker, then these might work, but anything that produces useful Sound, like a pair of Bookshelf Speakers or a Home Theatre System with multiple subs...well...these things likely won't do anything.
For blocking the sound from my living room to my neighbors, would this be better or a thin wool drywall for an apartment? The building is made of thin brick walls and the acoustic in the building sucks… I just don’t want to disturb or be disturbed.
@@pauledwards8721 I don’t have much room for a decoupled drywall, the apartment is already really small that’s why I was thinking on a thin one with just wool inside, to reduce noise a bit.
I have the exact same issue. The wall that is adjacent to my neighbor happens to be a hallway, so there's not enough room for drywall. I also play electric piano on the lowest volume possible, and still my grumpy neighbor will start slamming her doors in protest. The walls are basically cinderblock in an old building. I was hoping a layer of acoustic foam panels with the slatted acoustic wood panels on top for a more appealing look would be the solution. Anyone have thoughts on this?
i like to say its awesome to see someone taking the time to show what,why, and how its done i have autism son and he talks loud and his sister always complains about him so i like to use that but i live in apartment so i would like to do the walls also the ceiling would that be wrong to do the ceiling ?
Are these panels effective at blocking sound from one room to the other? In other words, can they prevent the sound from the TV from traveling to the adjacent room behind it? Or are they primarily designed to enhance sound quality within the room itself? Alternatively, what would you recommend to block sound from one room to the other? Currently, I have a hollow brick wall and can hear everything from the other side. It's incredibly noisy.
Those panels will do mostly nothing between rooms. You need to add mass and air. Drywall for mass and insulation inside the walls. The best results are obtained from building an entirely separate wall. You can also use resilient channels but nothing beats a decoupled wall with insulation inside and two layers of 5/8" Drywall. Air is also a major factor to control, so you need to seal every gap with acoustic sealant. It's a major endeavour if you really want to cut on the noise but there are options like the resilient channels. You can hear how boomy the panels sound compared to the traditional acoustic panels. They might look better but it's impossible that a thin layer of foam absorb as broad a frequency range as a thicker material like the one used in traditional panels. They are more expensive too.
@@soundproofguideLooking forward to it! I’m moving into a townhouse with a shared bedroom wall so I’d like to minimize the amount of sound my neighbor hears (I’m the annoyingly loud neighbor, I’m working on it 🥲). In a lot of your videos you show the before and after decibels. I’d love to see the difference for these panels! Thank you for posting, I’m currently bingeing all your videos haha
I'm pretty skeptical. These panels are so thin, they will only absorb or diffuse the highest frequencies and the diffusion is not mathematically sound, with all even spaces. Will you hear a difference? Probably. Will it be better? MAYBE better than nothing, but meh. And here, we're only testing with a TV?? So that's hardly a full range system. I'd at least go with something from GIK or the like. I have a couple of their 24x48x2" panels with the combo absorption and 1D diffusion, on my one side wall that's closer and does help mitigate the effect of the reflection. At any rate, if you like how these look and you want to make an accent wall with *some* acoustic benefit, then whatever, go for it. I would urge everyone interested in real acoustic gains, to do some serious homework before making your investment. There is a lot to know, but I think the bottom line here is that you're better off using well engineered products, even if you have less coverage for the money.
I tried installing these panels using 4 heavy duty command strips on each panels and the adhesive didn’t hold up well. They would fall down after a 20-30minutes.
@ yes they are the velcro ones 😟 it was the adhesive to the wall failing. I cleaned the surface but not sure what else I could’ve done. I’ll just screw them to the wall
that was a very strange test. why didnt you place thecamera in the same position and why didnt you put the first material behind the tv at the wall? especially since the speakers are there???
After thinking about it, this doesn't seem to be a very good test. You compared the two types of sound absorption panels but in totally different locations and different quantities. Placing the asorbtion panel behind the TV between the speaker and the wall was obviously the thing that made the biggest impact. Also, I fail to see how the wood slats are diffusing if they're all symmetrically flat, it seems more like an partial absorption panel.
As thin as it is… you are only knocking out high frequencies… but it could help a little with diffusion… potentially but not as well as true combo panels or diffusion panels, but they do look nice and trendy.
If i were to make a soundproof box to put my laptop, headset, keyboard, and phone(s) into, how would i go about this? I am looking for absolutely zero sound to come through and be heard.
To make a soundproof box for your devices, use MDF or plywood for the outer layer, then line it with Mass Loaded Vinyl (MLV) to block sound. Inside, add acoustic foam or dense fiberglass for absorption. Seal the lid with weatherstripping or rubber gaskets to prevent leaks. This combo should minimize noise escaping!
@@soundproofguide Thank you! What were the results? It is clear the diffusers work better than the absorbers? Hard for us to tell on this side of the screen.
"dont do this" (cuts with small hand saw on a single sawhorse with no gloves), next scene - "here's a small saw you can buy"......... {also} listen on RUclips to the sound quality..... end scene - listen to the difference in sound on RUclips (mic is in a totally different spot)
Those are diffusers, they have HARD surfaces, They will only reduce VERY high frequencies that fit between those wooden slats. Those are NOT effective for anything below 1200hz. You are also NOT supposed to mount them DIRECTLY onto the surface. These are WAY better if they are floating an inch off your wall.
Slay-ates a grey stone..Slaa-ats pieces of whatever wood plastic arranged longitudinally in a even pattern..Why do Americans have a problem with English???
I have them.. They do work.. 💯💯
Appreciate the pinned.. Dope Channel 💯👍🏾
One caution. When using a Slat diffuser if the the spacing is the same there is an augmented reverberation of a specific frequency. That frequency is determined by the measurement of the spacing, depth of the slats, etc. If you run a sweep with and without them you should be able to see it.
a sweep?
Could you build a wall like this but change the distance between them a small amount, maybe make a wave pattern and lost that reverberation?
@@Heliosvector In audio testing, a sweep refers to a test signal where a tone (usually a sine wave) continuously sweeps across a range of frequencies, typically from low to high (or vice versa), over a specified time. It is used to measure frequency response, distortion, and other audio characteristics.
First of all I do think they look good and seem easy to install. However given how thin these panels are there are just absorbing the highest frequencies leaving the mid and base frequencies untouched and I think that is mainly the "improvement" in sound that you are experiencing, more dominant bass frequencies and less tinny frequencies from notoriously poor TV speakers. The main use of sound absorbing panels are, as you say to reduce reverberation (echo), and they are also usually placed at the first reflection points of the speakers to absorb unwanted sound reflections and improve the stereo image. The fact that these panels do some limited absorption as well as diffusion is bonus. I use a similar looking panel from GIK acoustics, the difference being these panels are 4 inches thick, probably thicker than the average consumer would want to have in a non dedicated media room but required if you want to absorb more evenly across the frequency range although at 4 inches they are still too thin to absorb below 80hz.
Slats, not slate. Slate is a type of rock, commonly used as a construction material. Slats are long thin narrow strips of wood or other material. Slatwall is a wall covering used in retail and sometimes in workshops or garages that has horizontal groves with T-slots or L slots that you can insert metal brackets into to support shelves, hooks, tool holders, etc.; this is somewhat similar to french cleats but with a much narrower gap between boards and the slats are normally part of panels with multiple slats. Also similar to pegboard which has holes instead of t-slots or beveled edges. Wood slats, slatted wood, or wall slats could refer to a wall surface that is covered in slats, or the surface covering, but is not designed to hang things.
THIS! #$&! that was instantly annoying.
Groves are where the threes are
THANK YOU!!!
eh buddy thats what he said! slates and slats sound the same to him
I think he's just Canadian...
6:43 is the sound comparison
great video but you havent linked the command strips you recommended could you do this please.
I think it would be nice to see if they block exterior noise as well :)
Future video!
Way too thin to block noise. the noise that often bothers people is the lower frequency range and these will pass through these panels as if there were not there. I use 4 inch thick slatfusors from GIK acoustics and they only absorb down to 80Hz (kick drum frequency).
You put the camera in a different spot for the slat test. That invalidates it completely as microphone placement is a thing in a test.
Just wrapped two walls with these - not specifically for the for the sound properties, but that's a huge added benefit.
Plus they're wrapping a powder room, so hopefully they decrease the amount of sound transferring out of there a little.... 😄
Hmmm 🤔 hopefully they don’t absorb gases and then slowly release them fir the benefit of the next visitor!
@@wh0tube hah - exterior walls of the powder room.
Though I am still considering doing one wall inside, just to cut down on the echo in there
@@cloudyview phew! And, phew! 👍
@@wh0tube oh geez. I was just going to put some up inside the bathroom next to the toilet. Looking for waterproof ones though, for obvious reasons. I'm encasing my master bedroom in this stuff from the outside. the door will be covered on both sides. Hidden door style.
Great demo!
I have a box of these same panels in my trunk right now, planning to put a row of them behind my desktop speakers. One box covers about 2 x 8 feet, just about perfect.
Cheers from Ottawa! 🇨🇦
Cheers from NB 🇨🇦
@@soundproofguide Cheers from Tracadie-Sheila.
I'll be honest, I don't understand how this demo showcased the products affectiveness when they're being placed in drastically different locations
One panel type was placed around the TV speaker and the other panel type was placed directly behind the TV speaker.
Would this reduce sound going into room behind tv?
Thanks mate 🙏🏻🙏🏻🙏🏻 I’ve just discovered your channel last week whilst trying to navigate my renovation game plan with soundproofing in mind and all your videos have been extremely helpful and eye opening with regards to what I should prioritize within my budget.
Looking forward to the soundproofing capabilities of these panels. There’s a wall behind which the elevator of the building moves through and I couldn’t insulate without taking the crown moldings off, so I just left it. But anytime someone takes the elevator I can hear it 😞😞😞 So I’ve tried putting the library there…. Was thinking of slapping on MLV (but it’s so ugly even when it’s painted and has to covered somehow 🙃🙃🙃)
So if those panels might deafen the sound significantly it could be a pretty economical and esthetic solution (maybe even combining with MLV underneath) hopefully 🤞🏻😇
Be blessed 🕊️💫
Incredible video man! Thanks for putting this up and for always posting the products. Random question: What color/brand paint is that besides the TV? Love how that looks with the panel
How do you keep these clean - free of dust etc?
Could you potentially attach those slats to mass-loaded vinyl to block external noise as well?
Yes that could definitely work!
Wow fantastic difference both in sound but also looks. Nicely done
Thank you! 😊
This was a good and helpful video!! It def looks better with the wood panels!! 🎉. I think the best take from this video is how much those panels help with the sound quality of your tv speakers!! 🎉
Ps. Curious if they actually do anything for sound deadening via spl levels on the other side of the wall! 🎉
I’ll be trying them on another wall where I can test if they are also good at blocking sound. They made a big difference with the sound quality of the speaker’s and probably won’t be buying a sound bar for that room.
It looks like you are using 24" x 24" modules of wood slats. The links provided are ~94.5" length module. Can you share precisely what you used in the video?
help?
I appreciate this video
Thanks for the video. Would these work well in reducing nose transfer between the space in the living room which is in the main floor and upstairs bedrooms? My house is open concept and my wife complains about hearing the TV playing on the main floor as she is trying to sleep upstairs.
Did you srew in the end caps too?
The wooden "diffusor" looks nice, but it has too little depth and all the slats are spaced equally. The tiny bit of felt behind the wood will likely absorb the very highest frequency, bur nothing more than that, and the diffusion will also only work in a very narrow band. Having the regular pattern will add another issue known as "lobing" so it might actually make the sound worse in some areas. If all you use is a built-in TV Speaker, then these might work, but anything that produces useful Sound, like a pair of Bookshelf Speakers or a Home Theatre System with multiple subs...well...these things likely won't do anything.
For blocking the sound from my living room to my neighbors, would this be better or a thin wool drywall for an apartment?
The building is made of thin brick walls and the acoustic in the building sucks… I just don’t want to disturb or be disturbed.
They don’t have enough mass or coverage to do much in that scenario, best you can do is add a decoupled layer of drywall and seal it around the edges.
@@pauledwards8721 I don’t have much room for a decoupled drywall, the apartment is already really small that’s why I was thinking on a thin one with just wool inside, to reduce noise a bit.
I have the exact same issue. The wall that is adjacent to my neighbor happens to be a hallway, so there's not enough room for drywall. I also play electric piano on the lowest volume possible, and still my grumpy neighbor will start slamming her doors in protest. The walls are basically cinderblock in an old building. I was hoping a layer of acoustic foam panels with the slatted acoustic wood panels on top for a more appealing look would be the solution. Anyone have thoughts on this?
Man they look really good
i like to say its awesome to see someone taking the time to show what,why, and how its done i have autism son and he talks loud and his sister always complains about him so i like to use that but i live in apartment so i would like to do the walls also the ceiling would that be wrong to do the ceiling ?
Are these panels effective at blocking sound from one room to the other? In other words, can they prevent the sound from the TV from traveling to the adjacent room behind it? Or are they primarily designed to enhance sound quality within the room itself? Alternatively, what would you recommend to block sound from one room to the other? Currently, I have a hollow brick wall and can hear everything from the other side. It's incredibly noisy.
Those panels will do mostly nothing between rooms. You need to add mass and air. Drywall for mass and insulation inside the walls. The best results are obtained from building an entirely separate wall. You can also use resilient channels but nothing beats a decoupled wall with insulation inside and two layers of 5/8" Drywall. Air is also a major factor to control, so you need to seal every gap with acoustic sealant. It's a major endeavour if you really want to cut on the noise but there are options like the resilient channels. You can hear how boomy the panels sound compared to the traditional acoustic panels. They might look better but it's impossible that a thin layer of foam absorb as broad a frequency range as a thicker material like the one used in traditional panels. They are more expensive too.
@@podespault great info, thank you!
Just bought 30 of these, doing an entire room next weekend
Would love to see a demo on their effectiveness (or ineffectiveness) in sound transmission through walls and blocking exterior noise
It’s coming! 😎
@@soundproofguideLooking forward to it! I’m moving into a townhouse with a shared bedroom wall so I’d like to minimize the amount of sound my neighbor hears (I’m the annoyingly loud neighbor, I’m working on it 🥲). In a lot of your videos you show the before and after decibels. I’d love to see the difference for these panels! Thank you for posting, I’m currently bingeing all your videos haha
I'm pretty skeptical. These panels are so thin, they will only absorb or diffuse the highest frequencies and the diffusion is not mathematically sound, with all even spaces. Will you hear a difference? Probably. Will it be better? MAYBE better than nothing, but meh. And here, we're only testing with a TV?? So that's hardly a full range system. I'd at least go with something from GIK or the like. I have a couple of their 24x48x2" panels with the combo absorption and 1D diffusion, on my one side wall that's closer and does help mitigate the effect of the reflection.
At any rate, if you like how these look and you want to make an accent wall with *some* acoustic benefit, then whatever, go for it. I would urge everyone interested in real acoustic gains, to do some serious homework before making your investment. There is a lot to know, but I think the bottom line here is that you're better off using well engineered products, even if you have less coverage for the money.
I tried installing these panels using 4 heavy duty command strips on each panels and the adhesive didn’t hold up well. They would fall down after a 20-30minutes.
The “Velcro” type command strips? I’m surprised they didn’t hold…
@ yes they are the velcro ones 😟 it was the adhesive to the wall failing. I cleaned the surface but not sure what else I could’ve done. I’ll just screw them to the wall
sound meter would of been good as its hard to tell how much you save.
that was a very strange test. why didnt you place thecamera in the same position and why didnt you put the first material behind the tv at the wall? especially since the speakers are there???
After thinking about it, this doesn't seem to be a very good test. You compared the two types of sound absorption panels but in totally different locations and different quantities.
Placing the asorbtion panel behind the TV between the speaker and the wall was obviously the thing that made the biggest impact.
Also, I fail to see how the wood slats are diffusing if they're all symmetrically flat, it seems more like an partial absorption panel.
I like those wooden ones better. Also, they look nicer.
They definitely do look nicer! Thanks!
As thin as it is… you are only knocking out high frequencies… but it could help a little with diffusion… potentially but not as well as true combo panels or diffusion panels, but they do look nice and trendy.
Noice!
they seem pretty thin to effectivly terminate bass noises
You are right, my 4 inch thick Slatfusor panels from GIK acoustics only absorb down to 80HZ.
I think you need at least some soundproofing material on every single wall to make a difference
If i were to make a soundproof box to put my laptop, headset, keyboard, and phone(s) into, how would i go about this? I am looking for absolutely zero sound to come through and be heard.
To make a soundproof box for your devices, use MDF or plywood for the outer layer, then line it with Mass Loaded Vinyl (MLV) to block sound. Inside, add acoustic foam or dense fiberglass for absorption. Seal the lid with weatherstripping or rubber gaskets to prevent leaks. This combo should minimize noise escaping!
So what were the results from the test? Were any measurements taken or is this purely a subjective test?
Purely subjective or should I say, “Real World Test”. Thank you
@@soundproofguide Thank you! What were the results? It is clear the diffusers work better than the absorbers? Hard for us to tell on this side of the screen.
Costco sells these!
The same ones !!
@@soundproofguide Yes, $60 for a four pack, up here in Canada! I saw them at Rona as well in 95 inch tall slabs by 24 inch, for $99 ea.
wooden SLATES 😵💫
"dont do this" (cuts with small hand saw on a single sawhorse with no gloves),
next scene - "here's a small saw you can buy".........
{also}
listen on RUclips to the sound quality.....
end scene - listen to the difference in sound on RUclips (mic is in a totally different spot)
tvs speakers are designed to reflect off of your wall...
And maybe someone should teach the TV manufacturers about soundwaves and how they work.
Those are diffusers, they have HARD surfaces, They will only reduce VERY high frequencies that fit between those wooden slats. Those are NOT effective for anything below 1200hz. You are also NOT supposed to mount them DIRECTLY onto the surface. These are WAY better if they are floating an inch off your wall.
Just listening is not a "sound test." You need to use measurement software like REW. Then you'll know what's going on...
Real world test.
The wooden panels sound much boomier than the traditional acoustic panels. Stick to tried and true people 😊 Just another audio fad.
These are felt, not just wooden.
@@cloudyview
What do you expect a few Millimetres of felt to do to Sound with a Wavelength several times that?
seriously sick of seeing them, like a band wagon everyone is hoping on just for the sake of it
Slay-ates a grey stone..Slaa-ats pieces of whatever wood plastic arranged longitudinally in a even pattern..Why do Americans have a problem with English???
I’m French Canadian. That should explain it all. 🤷♂️
Why do people have a problem judging other people? Chill out!
Don’t hate him. Hat him instead.
No one says “panels” like that
I do. ☺️
Literally a waste of money. 😂
Idk they are good decoration at least. That’s what I’d buy them for.
Was expecting a sweep test and dirac… disappointed