Fujifilm X-H2, X-T5 & XF 150-600mm f/5.6-8: KILLER Combo for An Atypical Use Case
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- Опубликовано: 29 авг 2024
- The response to Fujifilm's X-H2s, X-H2 and X-T5 has been mixed. But in this one very narrowly considered use case, I think Fujifilm has hit a home run. Then again, a single use case does NOT a camera system -- nor anywhere NEAR a full review -- make.
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Been getting great shots of egrets, herons, and grebes with that very versatile XF150-600. A great lens on a fast body like the H2S.
Listed my some of my favorite photo subjects :) great assurance that the lens is up to task.
Great Video, the bottom line is a great lens for An Atypical Use Case. the lens was build for bright light and especially people that shoot on cold and even snowy conditions. The lens like most Zoom lenses is very prone to any heat distortion. Shoot in bright conditions, at close distance with cool temperatures or over water, great results. If you do not mind noise, then it works fine in low light conditions. Unfortunately, Fuji does not offer an alternative to f8, like a prime lens of some sorts except the f2 200mm lens, expensive and way to short. Tamron offer a fantastic 150-500 at f6.7already an improvement.
The 200mm with a 2x converter. Turns into the equivalent of 600mm f5.6. That’s pretty damn good when you compare it to a Nikon 600mm f4 that’s $16,000
I've been doing falcon bird photography with xt5 and 150-600mm.
Was frustrated with the Noise Reduction, figured out I need to turn it to -4NR.
Seems to help alot.
Anyways. Got some close ups of a falcon in flight 50ft away. I'm ok with that.
thank you for this comment!!!
Thanks Hugh for the video, I purchased this lens when it first came out and have been using it with good results on my XT4, hopefully upgrading to the “5” in January. Happy Holidays to you and Claudia!🎄🎁
And to you!
“Why freeze your butt off?” Actually resolving Saturn for yourself. It’s the challenge, and seeing things for yourself - after growing up with Voyager Saturn posters as a kid and dreaming of voyaging there yourself.
I like this answer.
Imagine Fuji 200 f2 white shark now with the new sensor !
Go shoot some video with the XF150-600 it’s a surprisingly great video lens. I caught our swans just as they hatched some cygnets earlier this year with it. Beautiful image
Thanks Hugh. I have the X-T5 w/ 100-400 Fujinon. Which by the way is a great lens. I just ordered the 150-600 for more reach for birds. Glad you like it. I value your opinion. Happy and healthy holidays to you both.
And to you, Bruce!
Have you found an honest, reliable review/video that does a proper side-by-side, comparison of the raf files from the 2 lenses?
I.e. 150-600 & 100-400 (pref with the 1.4x t/c).
The only 'comparison' video I've seen was ridiculously biased against the 100-400.
@@peterjackhandy Not really. I did my own. The only differeance (w/1.4TC) is that the 100-400 is smaller and lighter.
Been a Canon shooter for 20 years, have an R6 with an R7 on order. Then the put a stop to third party lenses. Cancelled the R7 and am looking at either the X-H2S or OM-1 for distant wildlife.
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I consider an “oh baby” and “wowza” my Christmas gift video.
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"...raises more questions than answers". Apologies for not holding that thought, but Sony's own FE 200-600 f5.6-6.3 is 1/10" longer, 4/10" larger diameter, and 1.15 lbs heavier. Price is the same as the Fujifilm competitor. But the Sony lens is full frame AND 2/3 stop faster. With the recent FX30 release, along with a few lens releases prior, we know Sony hasn't abandoned APS-C - at least not for video. The A7R V kept the same 61 MP FF / 26 MP in crop mode sensor as it's predecessor. So, will Sony release a more photo centric, higher pixel density APS-C camera in the coming year to answer the R7 and X-H2? If such a camera materializes, how will it pair with the exiting FE 200-600? Have a crystal ball handy?
That is what keep me waiting now when i really to put money down for z9, xh2s or even xh2. Maybe i will buy xh2 to play with until sony come out something.
Good point you raise. Would love to see examples of a sports shooter and the bokeh of the x-t5 w/ this 150-600. I'd be tempted
did you get chance to use with xt5?
Fuji provides a great alternative to full frame camera systems in terms of weight, size and cost.
They should’ve opened the lens mount years ago and they would’ve been much wealthier and able to spend more on R&D and updating the AF system and lens line up.
Just ordered a Fuji X-T5. I‘m currently in the process of switching from Sony to Fuji. Let’s see how it goes 😅
What will be different if we shoot two cameras with identical lenses, one APS C and one FF with an identical exposure triangle. Say, for instance: f/4, 1/250th second and ISO 200?
Will the smaller sensor result in "two stops darker exposure" as you claim in the video?
No! Of course not!
Most of the people arguing for aperture equivalence using some ratio (similar to the angle of view equivalence we are all used to) are talking about how much bokeh you get at a given distance. Which is arguably true.
But there is no difference in the light gathering capability between an f/4 full frame lens and an f/4 APS lens. You can prove this easily with most of the Sony a7 cameras which have an APS-C mode. If you take a picture in FF mode, and then switch to APS mode the pictures will be exposed identically.
It's sad (and amazing) that you are seemingly siding with Internet charlatans like Tony (or Chelsea fame) in the "total light fallacy';
Why, if sensor size is such an important part of exposure don't light meters have a "sensor size setting". (Am I the only person left who learned how to photograph with a light meter because my Dad's beautiful Rolleiflex 2.8 didn't ;have any metering? And the same meter worked fine for my later Nikon and Olympus 35mm cameras, even though the film is tiny compared to the 6cmX6cm in the Rollei ,
Repent!
True I'm not sure why people keep getting confused trying to do these full frame equivalent maths.
Although one thing to note is that Fuji tends to be noisier given the exact same exposure values as Sony (and accounting for the fact that they use differnet iso standards)
You are right, but you are objecting to the silver haired click weasel, not to what Hugh is saying. This is what Hugh said, from the auto generated transcript:
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talking the Moon that makes a difference
A very interesting video however as a Sony, fujifilm and Olympus user I think the real competition is an om-1 with the stellar 150-400mm Olympus lens. In everyday use it smokes both the A1 for weight and price and the Fuji on aperture IS and weight, I say this having tried all the combinations and still using Sony and Fuji actively.
The thing of it is, you get more reach on the Fuji, amplified by double the pixels. But I DO take your point! 🖖🏻
The pixel count is a fair point given the typical usage, of which I guess birds in flight would be the most stressing, as it allows more cropping but at the equivalent aperture the built in teleconvertor on the Olympus gives ff equivalent of 1000mm although I have to say I rarely use this as it’s actually too long a focal length for what I like to image. Overall we are just soo lucky to have such a range of Amazingl kit to choose from from. The quality is just remarkable
@@3BMEP Scratch that argument with double the pixels. I have seen too many credible side by side comparisons of the older XT3 with its 26MP outperforming the new 40MP sensor in terms of fine detail resolution. This new 40MP sensor does not render more fine detail than the 26MP sensor, even when using high performing lenses recommended by Fuji for the new sensor.
I was about to ask you if you did side by side tests on this as well already, Hugh. I am certain you will find the assumption that the new 40MP sensor provides higher resolution to be a bit of a scam really.
That said, even when assuming the 40MP would actually allow a linear improvement of fine detail resolution as the pixel count merely suggests, the real world difference between a 20MP and 40MP file for print would be basically irrelevant.
@@weisserth I cam tell you that there is a dramatic difference in our ability to crop between the 24 megapixels of an S5 and the 47.5 megapixels of an S1R, and THIS is the relative comparison, ditto Sony 33 maegapixels of an a7 IV vs 60 of an a7R V - not printing the same image at the same size, irrespective of camera brand. But note as well that I did NOT say double the resolution - I said double the pixels with intent. 😊🖖🏻
@@3BMEP Take some comparison shots with the Fuji 26MP and 40MP sensors and tell me what you see. What I suspect is that there is no real resolution (resolution defined as ability to resolve fine detail, not MP count) advantage of the XT5 over the Olympus OM1 with its 20MP. So, I suspect Mark's suggestion still holds true for his recommendation to go with the Olympus 150-400mm with its built in tele-converter.
Why compare it with all those super expensive lenses, if something like the Sony 200-600 is a much more logical competitor? f/6.3 at the long end, and at least here in Europe the Sony lens is about 300€ cheaper.
Nice video. I am on the fence about the XF150-600, but your review is encouraging. Maybe next summer. Merry Christmas!
Just got my X-t5. Super stoked!
Enjoy!
For still Bird photography how you find X T5 with Fujinon 150-600mm is best combination than Sigma or Tamron 150-600mm.
Perhaps a dumb question. Why wouldn't more megapixels (on the same size sensor) give you higher resolution?
are their any limits other than buffer using the xt5 XF 150-600mm f/5.6-8 combo than xh2?
Looking into the zoom as well now but using the XH2S. 😅 Still sometimes I wished I had chosen the XH2 but when I am in the field and can rely on AF, I quickly forget again.
The problem is that all moon shots appear to have been taken from a 1959 World Book Encyclopedia. I've tried it on my X-T2. Came out great; but borrrrring.
I love your videos! They bring much value. Thank You!
Thank YOU, Morgan!
Nice nice .. merry Christmas 🎄
Wowzers indeed ! Merry Christmas ;-)
And to you and yours!
Please use chapter markers
I could listen to this guy read a phone book...
I was hoping to hear something on the auto focus on the xt 5 or the xh2. I’ve heard on other sites there were issues. As I do a lot of bird photography that caused me to hold off on my purchase. Anyone here have experience shooting this set up for BIF? Thanks
Dear Mr. Brownstone... you clearly stated...in one of your older videos obviously...that for 99.9% of the time 24 megapixel would be enough for 99.9% of us photographers. Does that still hold true today, do you think, because I think it does. But hold that thought...because as we are slipping into times, where clever AI and cheap phones produce images more akin to ones dreams rather than something we... actually saw when we took the picture in the first place...do we need 40 Megapixel sensors or proper cameras at all, any longer? How does one justify the lust for ever more potent gear when software companies like Adobe only try to ensnare their customers into a monthly payment plan, when what can be accomplished using said software, can only be accomplished using said software. Put simply...when is enough...finally enough? However...I still wanna know how you feel about the new Fujifilm goodness.
I hear you; and yes, I think it does.
I shoot Fuji 26mp and Sony 61mp. When it comes to, quoting Hugh, cropping the crap out of an image to get a useable print form a proportion of the frame, well megapixels mater.
And that is why I don't shoot micro 4/3. Brilliant as the OM / Olympus systems are, sooner or later one runs out of resolution.
Just saying. Your mileage may vary.
@@djstuc Not necessarily. The ability to crop effectively allows you to do more with less gear. If the image benefits and fits your vision... what's the problem?
@@kaneclements7761 I don't disagree with you technically, but with the Olympus, you don't have to crop - although sometimes a bit of fine tuning is necessary, such as minor cropping, or horizon correction.
Season’s Greetings, and thanks for an interesting value proposition.
And to you, Michael! Nice to see you here.
Thanks!
Thank you!
Camera companies have weird lens naming convention 😳 just name this Fujifilm White Shark 150-600mm 🦈
Great Vid
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but the point you are making is flawed in so many ways. First of all there is a cheaper or equaly priced sony option. the 200-600, which compares optically and has a better aperture. further more you could add a 1,4 teleconverter and now you end up, with almost 900mm at 60mp for 5grand. With equal weight and potentially equal or better image quality
where can i get an sony 60mp body with a 200-600mm teleconverter 1.4x for under or at 5k? if so send me the link😂
@@williamvesterberg1107 if you are based in Europe, grayimports from e-infin are a good Option. A7 riv 2.2k, 200-600 1.6k (offen even cheaper) and a tc can be had for 600€. So 4.4k or eventuell less. If u get the lens cheap u can even get aqay with the Mk v.
Fuji got the best hybrid system at the market, in my opinion... there is no other system that is packed with features when it comes to frame rates and codecs like a X-H2, X-H2s etc... also, fuji got features like 40fps shooting and pre capture... just to name a few... but yeah at the end you will get stunning results no matter wich system u are using tbh... if you know your craft. Have fun 👌🙂
150-600mm is 225-900mm on Fuji. It’s not as bright sure. But the 100-400mm is just as bright as the Sony 200-600 with more range as it’s actually 150-600mm. Both lenses have options for 1.4x or 2x teleconverters. Also I bought the 150-600mm on sale new for $1400 out the door. A bargain.
Don’t get this lens. I bought this lens and now it’s having a temporary vacation in a service center of Fuji due to “Turn off the camera and turn on again” error which came up out of nowhere. And fujifilm customer service sucks. My two cents.
Oh my! Thanks for the post.
Just wondering which camera you use with it?
@@williamchan8866 Xh2 and Xt4
The reason I asked is because I had the same problem with a different lens(Xt-3 and 18mm f2), same warning. I removed the battery didn’t work. So I went online to see if anyone else had same problem with any Fuji lens. I discovered from one person saying it could be the camera mount. So I mounted and dismounted the lens….didn’t work, same warning. So I tried it again but this time pushing the lens against the body and it worked. Warning went away…..but once in a while it does it again and I do the same thing each time….just once …..it always work. So either it’s the camera mount or lens or just contacts needs cleaning. But you have a new lens and if it’s doing it to both cameras likely it’s the tolerance of the lens mount.
@@williamchan8866 I got it back from fujifilm service center and it’s now fixed. The service comment says “Dis-assembly of parts and adjustment of group lens”. Not sure what they meant by that but the lens is now working fine, so far no errors.
“Oh baby!!”😂
I never take photos of the moon I have seen so many photos of the moon. Please do not take photos of the moon. We know what it looks like it'll look the same is it dead for those are the 10,000 images. Go out and shoot some wildlife and birds and other stuff, but please don't shoot the moon. Anyways, I think this is a really good deal and one of the reasons why I'm heading over to Fuji film is that it's much better value even the other lenses in the Fuji film range could be picked up secondhand for three or 400 bucks. You try and find a liquid lens for 400 bucks in the Nikon range. Yeah good luck with that.
The moon is much more consistent. Wildlife shots are rarely the same. There's much more consistency in the comparisons which may matter to some people. I agree moon shots are boring but it's kind of nice to see the differences in detail, noise,sharpness etc.