Thumbs up on the production quality (camera, audio, lighting and content), the video inserts for each of modules being played and the overall looks of your studio - all is uplifting
Congrats! That’s almost a gift! So much sound for little money. One of my favourite sounds is from the internal Session Card, Patch 67 - a nylon guitar sound and when using the sustain pedal you hear fingers gliding over the strings. Awesome! Enjoy that unit!!
@@theMIDImaniac Thanks! On the topic of JV-1010... What's the Windows software to use if I want to fiddle around with the sounds? Googling for it is somewhat confusing, as I find software that seems related and/or similarly named (Ctrlr, JV PatchEd, JV-XP Editor..). I was looking for a "Jump" sound - found one pretty close, but I would need to tweak the sustain... Thanks in advance for any tips you may have!
I bought mine for $50 :) I accidently dropped it from a storage over one of my closets, straight into a hard floor. The paint rubbed off at the side and left a little dent in the floor. Still worked and nothing came loose :) So I guess I am lucky
@@larslengberg The most usable one IMHO is still the original SoundDiver editor that came bundled with the JV-1010. Surprisingly, it works on Win10. I think that version is still on some user's page on the net somewhere.
There's a general consensus that the JV-1080 sounds better than the 2080. But, honestly, they're so close in this comparison that the differences are really irrelevant.. All three of them sound pretty much the same.
I'm obsessed with JV series sounds. I use em all the time - those, and one little secret weapon from e-mu vintage keys plus ;) stringwheel. Great video, thanks
Thanks a lot for taking the time to listen and to comment. At that moment I had all three of them (Bought the 2080 and sold the 1080) and I thought 'let's compare NOW! :D'. Yes, the difference is minimal to my ears. Soon I will post another comparison with two machines, a cheap one and an expensive one ;-)
That's an awesome comment! Thanks for that. Yeah, the 1010 is an awesome machine. It offers so much sound. And the 880 is a great unit too. I love the sound of it a lot. I sold the 880 though and now I have the 990 and the way it sounds is equal to me. Very deep and wide. Thanks for passing by and taking the time to drop a message. Have a good one!
I got a 1010 when it came out,then bought an FA06 at least 15 years later only to discover a load of presets still were the same.I also have zenology which has loads of the old reliable Roland presets.Great video,sound quality is excellent
Thank you for sharing this comparison. Trying to decide which of these units I am going to get. Something about the 1080 that keeps calling me. Awesome comparison production!
I still recommends JV-1080! I have that module and it is still the best choice. JV-1080 is well balanced between features, expandability, and sound quality. For sound quality JV-1080 is the best, more fat, more smooth. But you may choose JV-2080 if: - You are crazy for the SR-JV80 expansion boards and want a module with more slots to fit, rather than JV-1080. - You like experimenting, mixing, outragerous editing and make something amazing until your friends will ask, "are you nuts?!" LOL - You like to orchestrate all MIDI channels with multitimbral feature... of course 1010 and 1080 are able to do so, but 2080 has more and more thanks to it's 8x expansion. - You are a big spender and like to jealous other musicians around you, or if you like to look cool on the stage. Or you may choose JV-1010 if: - You desire for JV-1080 or 2080 sounds at a valuable price. - You just want to have fun, just want to play. No editing necessary. - You like computer games with MIDI feature and would like to have a better GM sounds with a taste of JV sounds. - You don't want to get more space on your desk for a huge rack module, or always mobile but lightweight to go around, because JV-1010's size is as equal as Roland SC-55mkII, Roland SC-88, or legendary Roland MT-32. - You don't care for the expansions, you only focus to have a single SR-JV80 board, whatever your choice. You are a pianist? Choose SR-JV80-03 Piano. You like vintage sounds? Choose SR-JV80-04 Vintage Synth or SR-JV80-08 Keyboards 60s 70s. You want to have more multitimbral pop sounds? Choose SR-JV80-01 Pop, SR-JV80-07 Super Sound as the addition to SR-JV80-09 Session included in JV-1010. The choice is yours.
I thought all three boxes sounded really good. Differences are extremely subtle - the JV-2080 might be a little clearer, the JV-1010 has a little more sparkle to some of the sounds, and the JV-1080 is perhaps a little grittier. If you played more than one sound at once, there is no way you could honestly tell the difference between them. I got a JV-1010 recently, and it holds up perfectly well to the bigger brothers.
Very difficult to tell any difference between the three, at least to my ears. The minor differences in sound might as well be a result of small changes in the performance between each take? (No offense:-)) What I DID notice, thought, was that soundwise, the 1010 is very close to its bigger brothers, despite being a cheaper, cut-down version with limited editing possibilities. Great playing, I'd love to see more JV videos like this! Thanks for sharing.
flimbosquest thank you for your great comment and no, I don’t feel offended. You’re right about the JV-1010. Much cheaper and sounds terrific. I will do another comparison with the JV-1010 and another even bigger brother. Let see the difference between those two. Stay tuned ✌🏽✌🏽
Fantastic video! I have a JV-1010 and many times I read and listen that JV-1080 has a better sound than JV-1010. After listen carefully your video is possible say that is not true! To me JV-1010 and JV-1080 have absolutelly same sound. To my ears JV-2080 is a little brither and clean sound than your predecessors. Thank you so much. This video is was I looking for a long time!
Leandro Cleto Thank you for passing by and taking time to watch, listen and comment. The JV-1010 is an amazing and underrated synth. It has all sounds of the JV-1080 and JV-2080 + the Session expansion. I love the guitar patches of the Session Card (69/70/71) Thanks again! 💪🏽👌🏽✌🏽🤙🏽
A sugestion for new video in your channel: Roland JV-880 x (JV-1080 and JV1010 with JV-80 Patches ). Recently I load in "User Area" of my JV-1010 the patches of JV-80 (1-64-User). How the patches are the same of JV-880 (User) was possible compare these two units JV-880xJV-1010. As I readed and heard before, I can confirm that JV-880 have fuller sound when comparede with my JV-1010. JV-880 have a fantastic sound!!!! Think in this possibility since will be very useable for many folks and certanly your video production will be fantastic! If you need I can send to you a sysex file with JV-80 sounds to load in your JV-1010 and I think that will work on JV1-1080 as well. Thanks a lot!
Leandro Cleto thank you so much for the suggestion. I think you’re right about that topic buuuuuut....I sold my 880 & 1010. That’s why I made this video just before sending away the machines. I bought the 2080 because of the 8 card slots but I notice sound difference. And yes, the 880 sounded very warm. Grtzzz, Roger
Think I prefer the 2080 on all examples. Maybe cuz that was my first synth and what I grew up using. But I think it is the clearest and punchiest where the others sound a little muffled by comparison.
First synths always win the game. That’s where the love started. I will never leave my DX-100 for example. Thanks for your comment and a happy new year 🥳
It sure is. I do a lot of reggae From the V.I and predancehall stage Jamaica 🇯🇲 Bob Marley , Steel Pulse,UB 40 Peter Tosh Bunny Wailer, St. Croix V.I MidNite Band Akae Beka Ron and Vaughn Benjamin styles of reggae and Jazz Blues Rock 60s and 70s hammonds B3 Vox and Wultzer Steinway Pianos Fender Rhodes Suitcase Pianos Mellotronic Synths too Clavi s and all
As a new beginner I brought a brand new JV-1080 & I got 4 expansions (Session, Dance Orchestral & the Keyboards 🎹 🎹🎹of the 60s & 70s & I am using it with my Akai MPC One in standalone also I wanted to know what is your opinion of the SR-JV80-99 Eperience Expansion board? because according to the Google search that I had found it has most of the patches of the original JV80-04 Vintage Synth expansion board & because I am doing Hip hop RnB & house music I found out that it’s much cheaper to get the JV-80-99 experience expansion board then paying over $200 for the actual Vintage Synth board
For everybody who's interested in these machines, DonSolaris.com has a very nice presentetion - comparison of all the JV/XP line, the different DAC's they have, and the family tree, he goes deep enough in some details... Personal, i think the difference is small, in a mix i think it's very difficult to define them...The JV-1010 sounds a little brighter to my ears, and this is more obvious in the "Steel Away" patch i think, and in some patches the jv-1080 seems to have a wider stereo image, and also some pads sounds a bit warmer, but i'm talking about minor differences, which i think would be lost in a mix.... So the JV-2080 and the JV-1010, may have a kinda "brighter" sound, which a lot of people take it as a disadvantage, but the difference is very small, (IMHO), and they have better MIDI implementation (more CC's instead of sysex..), and i'm not sure, but i think that the JV-1010 have even more (midi CC's..), than the JV-2080 has, but i'm not sure... Anyway, Roger my friend, i saw the floods and all the damage they've done to some places in Spain...i hope that your place, your home and family is safe my friend... the pictures i saw was, ...oh, what can i say...i just hope you and your family are ok...really.
Patrick Martin Hi my dear friend! Thank you so much for your comment with great info and your personal concern. Yes, we are alright and we saw the terrible images also. It happened on the east coast of Spain and we live at the west coast. The weather is here totally the opposite. Hot days and hot nights. For the first time this summer we have finally some summer but I feel sorry for the other part of Spain with all the rain and damage. They’re not used to that amount of water. Where we live we are used to heavy rains. Therefore Galicia is that green in comparison to the rest of Spain. And how are you doing? Long time no contact. Hope you and your family had a wonderful summer. Un abrazo, Roger
@@theMIDImaniac Hey Roger...We had talked in the past about the SP-808, when you pointed me very well, that it's a very good phrase sampler, but it won't do the job that a "traditional" sampler would do, spread a sound chromatically in a keyboard, or make a drum kit... I mean, the SP-808 has it's colour in the sound, it's great effects, and a (mono) virtual analog synth hidden in the effects, but it works as a "phrase sampler"...i'm looking for a traditional sampler, with a nice library, nice drum sounds, (which i could trigger with a TR-8..), and i can sample my synths in... I'm thinking about an Emu ESI-32, or maybe an Akai S-3000, but i'm open in any suggestion that fits the bill...the money i've to get one, is 150 euro, maybe some more...i wonder if you have any suggestion, since i think you've got a lot of experience in the sampler area... Thanx, Patrick.....
@@PatrickDiAngelo Hi Patrick! Yes, the SP is a Phrase Sampler. All SP's are Phrase Samplers so no interest in looking there. If you're looking for hardware I do suggest the ESI-serie. I see the ESI-4000 with expansion selling for 150€. An ESI-32 can be bought also for that price. More isn't interesting because then you better could use a computer. Yep...sorry for saying that... The problem with hardware sampler units is that all has to be done with the tiny screen. I do use my VP-9000 but sampling is mostly done with the MV. It works so much easier and quicker. But the EMU ESI-samplers do have incredible filters. So, aim for those ones :-)
@@theMIDImaniac A computer..??? Heh..:) You're a bit crazy Roger my friend...!! Yep, for sure..;) Well, if i had the cash i'd go for a MV, it's an almost perfect machine, IMO..(And yours, i'm sure..) .But since i'm low on money, an ESI would be fine..and don't mind the small screen.. This ESI-4000 you said, is still selling..?? Well, if smth gets your attention, let me know...you know, man... Oh, and yes, it's the filter i like in the ESI ones, but the Akai's are fine too..(punchy drums, tight sound..). Hey Roger man :-)
Hello sir how r u?🎉🎉🎉❤❤❤, i just purchased The Roland JV-80 and another JV 1010. Do you know if the JV-80 sounds a bit warmer than the JV1010 im just asking your opnion on this?. I just love them both. I got the JV-80 for 300 USD and the JV 1010 for 150 both thid month.
This video is one of the reasons why I bought my 2080. After getting my hand on it I have the following opinion: The JV 2080 is a great workhorse. Easy to use minus some strange workflow in the UI. But the Rev and Chorus are crap beyond redemption and always off when I work with it. The EFX section is very nice most of the time. But I prefer the sound and stereo image of an 880 or 220 over the JV 2080. The big advantage of the JV 2080 is the 8 expansion slots and the direct access to all patches on the expansions. But soundwise it is not that great in comparison to a YAMAHA EX5. Which, of course, is riddled with the "Resource full" problem of the DSPs in multimode. Together they make a great combo. I recommend the following: If you are for a fuller sound experience, go for a JV1080. If you want the main workhorse, choose a JV2080. But be prepared to swap out or layer the sounds when doing a production with another better synth like the EX5.
Can you please explain more about the difference between the 1080 and the 2080, especially in terms of effects? I don't plan to buy any extra cards but do plan to buy some 3rd party patch libraries, specifically ones by LFO Store and Don Solaris. I'm mostly interested in pads and textural stuff. I plan on using the multitimbral and route sounds out all of the outputs, so the layers can be panned in a surround sound field. You mentioned the 1080 being a fully sound, if you can expand on what you mean it would be very helpful. I had been leaning towards getting a JV1080 because it seems to be the easiest to find in good condition for a decent price. I like the idea of the 2080 being a bit more user-friendly due to a better screen, and also I like that it has more effects but I honestly have never really heard them in action, at least that I can tell.
@@beatnikcafe Hi, I used to own a JV-1080, which I replaced many years ago with a JV-2080. As far as I recall, the 2080 generally has a brighter overall sound compared with the 1080, which tends to sound a bit duller but consequently can subjectively sound a bit 'fuller' and 'warmer' than the 2080. I suppose it must have something to do with upgraded DACs on the 2080. In terms of the effects, you get three EFX multieffects processors on the 2080, as opposed to only one on the 1080. This means that when you are working multitimbrally on the 2080, you can have up to three parts that can retain all their effects settings and routing from single patch mode, which definitely helps. If you are going to be doing a lot of your own programming and patch design from the front panel, you would really appreciate the larger screen on the 2080, which can obviously show a lot more information at once, including graphics for things like envelopes and routing. Finally, if you only ever consider getting one expansion card, the Vintage Synth card is definitely the one to go for (SR-JV80-04). I've found that for textures and pads, it massively increases the sonic palette of the synth, so that might be something that could work for you.
@@jamieferguson4380 thank you so much for your response, and also for mentioning the vintage expansion, I may consider it too, as it sounds pretty good from what I heard so far. I think I’m going to get the 2080, the extra effects and just being newer seems like a good choice.
@@beatnikcafe Thanks. I really think you've made the right choice going with the 2080, as the larger screen makes navigating the user interface a much easier and more enjoyable experience. I forgot to mention that the 2080 also responds to standard MIDI CC numbers for things like filter cutoff, resonance and envelopes, unlike the 1080. I really don't think you will regret buying a JV in 2022. Mine is still going strong and in daily use, for what it's worth!
The big advance of the JV2080 is that it is way more easy editable because of it larger LCD ! I have 3x JD990 and JV2080 is identical in editing though sounds less 'transparent' and open than the JD990. It is also 32Khz vs 41Khz
Get yourself an xv5050 it compliments very well the mv8000 and Vs2400 same gen hardware you can add also two srx. I got orchestral and ethnic. Got one to sell in Europe without srx for those interested.
@@theMIDImaniac ya ihave the xp80 which is a jv1080 with a keyboard and an arpeggiator. All the jv1080 based synths are timeless but would have to say from what Ive heard there is something extra in the jd990 alright. the prices have gone insane for the jd
Daniel Rocha ITZ the 1010 is an excellent module. I’m not into the Clavia-synths so I don’t know if there’s a rack version. Clavia Nord Modular perhaps?
I have a chance to get a 1080 or the 2080 right now for a good price. What unit would you choose over the other? leaning toward the 2080 for the bigger screen.
You will be more happy with the 2080. More sounds, more fx, more slots for cards and like you’ve mentioned - the bigger screen. 1080 is nostalgia, 2080 is an improvement. Good luck on your decision.
There is no doubt that the JV-1080 sounds better than the JV-1010 and for that matter better than the JV-2080. It has a dramatic powerful sound with more scale and the effects are more vivid, something this demo does not make clear. I think you have to play the sounds yourself on a full-size keyboard with aftertouch to really appreciate the difference. The JV- 2080 is clean sounding but lacks the warm rich sound of the earlier modules. What is surprising is how good the JV-1010 is given the price!
Thanks for your comment. I admit that the 1080 is a great machine. I sold the 1080 and the 2080 to buy the 5080 but somehow the 5080 sounds too clean. I kept the 1010 to have at least that 1080-feeling.
2080 is great, 3fx insert, 8 board slots, display LCD bigger, great to edit parameters... i love 2080... but in the question 'sound engine', there is no difference between the 3 modules
Does it make sense? For example, such workstations as Motif or Kronos have many tool libraries that can be loaded from a PC to a workstation.While this module is pretty limited, or am I wrong?
What do you mean, does it make sense? These modules are perhaps limited but on the other hand used a lot in the music industry. Some sounds are the basis of popular songs. I’m not familiar with Motif/Kronos. There are indeed workstations with much more possibilities. These are just modules. Nothing more and nothing less.
@@theMIDImaniac Yes, I know about it and in this you are right. That is why I am asking you if it makes sense today to just have a sound module or not. for example The same VST tools replace these modules, on the other hand, the stability on the module is better. For example, the same MB8800 or MC909 has on board, in addition to instruments, but also a sequerzer, which is justified for its use in the modern world(they are also great instruments for live performances). As for Motif or Kronos, these are instruments with the same power (the sequencer is the same as on the MB8800 on the Motif, one kronos is more powerful, in addition, there are 9 engines)as on the MB8800, but in addition they have good integration with the PC for this they were created, for example, for Motif I have more than 38 gigabytes of commercial libraries, each instrument consists of 8 components that can be adjusted on an instrument or on a PC, toin order to just listen to them, you will need many months of continuous listening. I talked about keyboard workstations, although Motif is available in the REC version, but it is cut down, for example, there are no 6-8 thousand performers in it,not to mention the rest of the possibilities. I ask about the modules, since there is an opportunity to purchase several from Roland and Korg, there were no such Rek modules in my studio before, I only felt them exclusively as an acquaintance from my colleagues. My question is, in addition to the sounds, what can the module do today? Thanks for your answer and your time!Does it make sense for me to clutter up my studio with additional hardware using these modules? And Happy New Year to you and your loved ones!
Bobcatt22 well...my DAW is the Roland MV-8800 and therefore I use the VS-2480 as my digital recorder. I don’t use a computer DAW. For me #hardwareonly 😁✌🏽
I have all three of them. I really like the JV-2080 but I noticed that sound output is sometimes clipping and I have to set Main Volume really low to avoid this. And also I noticed some kind of latency on some patches. No latency ever of 1080 or 1010... Have you ever come across of some of these problems with your JV-2080?
Hi! Thanks for passing by and for asking. I had the JV-2080 just a few months and I’ve never had that latency issue. Clipping yes. I had that also with the 1080 but always adjusted the mixer.
Thank you for quick answer. I mean not just that my Audio Interfce is clipping, sometimes the module clipps itself at the output stage. So I have to lower Main Volume pot and if that is not enough even set Wave Gain do -6dB for example bank E 047 Phaser MC. Anyway thank you so much for amazing video!
That's absolutely INCORRECT. Both are 32k. Only JD800 & JD990 are 44.1khz. Correct info for all units below JV-80 32k sample rate DAC: 18-bit PCM69P JV-90 32k sample rate DAC: 18-bit PCM69AU-1 JV-880 32k sample rate DAC: 18-bit PCM69AP (main out)* JV-1080 32k sample rate DAC: 18-bit UPD63200GS-E2 JV-2080 32k sample rate DAC: 18-bit PCM69AU XP-30 32k sample rate DAC: 24-bit AK4324 XP-50 32k sample rate DAC: 18-bit UPD63200GS-E2 XP-60 32k sample rate DAC: 18-bit PCM69AU XP-80 32k sample rate DAC: 18-bit PCM69AU JD-800 44k1 sample rate DAC: 18-bit PCM61 JD-990 44k1 sample rate DAC: 18-bit PCM61P From Don Solaris' Webpage - "I’ve read on GS forum some people claimed JV-1080 to be 44kHz DAC, but this is simply not true. If it was, then for start, the mirror effect (aliasing) would happen at 22 kHz, not 16 kHz"
Suli gimenez hola! Gracias por tu comentario y pregunta. A ver, cual tarjeta tienes? Tiene entradas MIDI? Y que quieres hacer? Mándame tus ideas/preguntas. Seguimos en Castellano porque vivo en Baiona, Galicia 😉✌🏽 Un abrazo.
@@theMIDImaniac tengo una focusrite 2i4 2 gen. Si tiene entradas midi. Lo que quiero es armar pistas en cubase. Y tener la mayor calidad posible,gracias por responder
Suli gimenez entonces lo tienes todo fácil. Audio Out del JV-1010 a Audio In del Focusrite. Midi In del JV-1010 al Midi Out del Focusrite. Midi In del Focusrite al Midi Out de un teclado Midi. No se como funciona Cubase pero seguramente es fácil de crear pistas Midi y Audio. Así puedes grabar pistas con información Midi y pistas con audio todo sincronizado. Un saludo.
@@theMIDImaniac vale pues muchas gracias !! Cuando tenga el pc lo probaré. Ya por último como favor, podrías grabar una pista súper rapida de piano y bajo con el método que me acabas de mencionar y mandarmelo a mi email para ver como suena?cuando tengas tiempo algo súper rápido. Como digo y si no pues nada ya me as ayudado bastante jjj un saludo muy amable
Rishan Dorna thanks a lot! My personal flavour is 1. 1080, 2. 1010 and 3. 2080. I have the 5080 also. Sounds great too but the crispy sounds of the 1080/1010 are making it much nicer. 5080 too clean.
I have a 2080 on its way from the East of The Land Down Under to the Wild West. It should get here some time this year! I can't wait! Oh, wait! I have to wait. I should get a keyboard with waited keys!
@@theMIDImaniac I got my 2080, and an Arturia Keylab 88mkii to play it with. I also have (well technically I have it, but it's out on loan atm!) a Roland RS-70 stage piano, which is also 16 channel multi-timbral. That should keep me busy for a while! The 2080 is bigger than I thought it would be, and I think it looks really impressive. I'm looking forward to a deep dive into JVEdit!
Yes, they have the same sounds. The reason why I made a comparison vid was because people say that the JV-1080 sounds better due to it's chipset and that the JV-2080 is sounding too sharp. To me they sound the same although I have the feeling that the 2080 has a bit more depth in the effects. I mean...it's an enhanced version of the 1080.
@@theMIDImaniac I found out some interesting things about this series of synths recently. It turns out that Roland liked to use their custom chipsets for quite a long time in different synths. I guess it makes sense, given the amount of investment it must have taking to get the chips made. But, I didn't realise until a few years ago how far they went with that. Turns out that the basis for most of the JV series is the same as the old SC-55 synths. The SC-55 main chip was used in things like the MC-303 Groovebox, and obviously lots of PC sound cards etc. The JV series is just an extension of that old design, with more voices and CC params, and effects. I've been looking into the data format of the SR-JV80 cards, too, and they all share the same basic format across all of those synths, right back to the SC-55. (once I'd figured out the sneaky scrambling that Roland did on the data and address signals). It's neat to look at some of the schematics, and spot the same type of chips used for many of them... www.synfo.nl/pages/servicemanuals.html I only own the JV-1080, and sold my MC-303 a couple of years back. IIRC, the 1080 uses a sampling rate of 32 KHz, and I think the 2080 does, too. So the main difference in sound is going to be in the type of DAC used, and even more so in the types of opamp for the final filtering. There are articles on a few sites which said that the JV series use "MP3 style" compression, which is far from it. They use a much simpler ADPCM style compression, but with separate tables that relate directly to the main sample data. I'm hoping to eventually make hardware synths based on FPGAs, which are able to play the same sample ROMs as the JV series, and the LA32 chip (MT-32, D-50 etc.).
I agree that the 1080 often sounds warmer on certain sounds, for whatever reason. If the ROMs and patches are exactly the same for those sounds on all three machines, then it can only really be the analog filtering done on the audio outputs that make the difference. It is possible to modify most of these synths with a direct digital output which bypasses the DACs and obviously all of the analog stuff. I might try that on the JV-1080 soon, and upload some clips.
Interesting observations - I find that 2080 is darkest sounding, slight rolloff of highend. jv 1010 is in the middle with 1080 having the most highend and detail. What is best? that is up to the patch. I think most of the patches were calibrated for 1080 and might explain why it sounds "better" - I think Eric Persing has confirmed this, but I personally prefer a highend rolloff on digital patches to prevent ear-fatigue. The factory patches makes the 1080 sound best.
I have had the JV1010 and XP-30. XV-2020 and XV-5050. The JV1010 DACs are much worse then the others. Background noise, less dynamic range and some distortion.
It is one Family . But ... Someone prefers mother, another daughter . I prefer daughter😊.2080 is younger than 1080 . 1010 is propably the youngest but sounds like adopted .
@@theMIDImaniac Yes! it's very strange that this happens with many Roland Synths, Although they have the same soundchip they have radically different sound and tone characteristics. and its only in a Vid like this that the differences are exposed. Great informative post!
Great job on this comparison! Does the JV-1010 have an internal battery which needs to be replaced once it's dead? If so how hard would it be to replace it? Saludos desde Logroño
Hola vecino! Bueno...Logroño - Baiona es bastante lejos jejeje. Thanks for passing by and leaving your question here. The JV-1010 does have indeed an internal battery. My experience with replacing CR-2032 batteries is that it is quite easy. Only on my DX-100 it was difficult because it was soldered but the rest of my Roland Synths were easy to replace. Here a link to the service notes of the JV-1010. www.synthxl.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/11/jv-1010-service-notes.pdf Muchísimas gracias y un abrazo fuerte!
@@theMIDImaniacUn millón de gracias! Estoy a punto de comprar un JV-1010. Un saludo y quién sabe si algún dia coincidimos, Tengo 47 tacos soy un tarado de la música. Un abrazo.
The 2080 sounds more brilliant and clear , the JV 1010 its a cheap version of the 1080, the 1080 sounds more analog, the sounds seems to me more weighted
Nice playing. I don't know too much about these units and trying to not let the name sequencer skew my opinion, but seems to me: 2080 seems most modern technology wise and most "realistic" 1010: sound the most "dated", but my favorite by far, very Roland, not quite realistic but that's kind of the point. very bright. sounds analog even. 1080: much closer to 2080, less dynamic range, like the sample bits aren't as high conclusion: I like synthy sounds so pick to 1010 as that thing would cut through mix and it just sounds so sweet, other wise for "realistic" sounds more suited for a formal, the 2080. And 1080 pales in comparison to those 2.
Thank you for your great comment. I sold recently my XV-5080 to rebuy the JV-1080 because of the gritty sound. I love the 1010 too. With those two I have all the sounds of the 2080.
Great comparison. Good job! Check out my patches for the Roland JV/XV series here: www.softsound.dk/index.php/products/presets-patches/hardware-synths/roland-jv880-1080-vol-1
Thumbs up on the production quality (camera, audio, lighting and content), the video inserts for each of modules being played and the overall looks of your studio - all is uplifting
Bobcatt22 that’s an amazing compliment. Thanks for that!
Recently stumbled across a used (very good condition) JV-1010 at just under 40 USD! An absolute steal..! :)
Congrats! That’s almost a gift!
So much sound for little money.
One of my favourite sounds is from the internal Session Card, Patch 67 - a nylon guitar sound and when using the sustain pedal you hear fingers gliding over the strings. Awesome!
Enjoy that unit!!
@@theMIDImaniac Thanks! On the topic of JV-1010... What's the Windows software to use if I want to fiddle around with the sounds? Googling for it is somewhat confusing, as I find software that seems related and/or similarly named (Ctrlr, JV PatchEd, JV-XP Editor..). I was looking for a "Jump" sound - found one pretty close, but I would need to tweak the sustain... Thanks in advance for any tips you may have!
I bought mine for $50 :) I accidently dropped it from a storage over one of my closets, straight into a hard floor. The paint rubbed off at the side and left a little dent in the floor. Still worked and nothing came loose :) So I guess I am lucky
@@larslengberg The most usable one IMHO is still the original SoundDiver editor that came bundled with the JV-1010. Surprisingly, it works on Win10. I think that version is still on some user's page on the net somewhere.
The JV1010 also includes the excellent Session card built in as well as those extra JV2080 patches not included in the JV1080.
There's a general consensus that the JV-1080 sounds better than the 2080. But, honestly, they're so close in this comparison that the differences are really irrelevant.. All three of them sound pretty much the same.
Man this was so good, so useful, beautifully filmed edited and played. A true pro. Love from London UK.
Norma Snockers ❤️Thank you so much for your positive comment. Glad you liked it🤗
Love from Baiona - Spain
My preference was 2080 over the 1010. The 1080 also sounds quite nice, but 2080 was my favorite overall.
I'm obsessed with JV series sounds. I use em all the time - those, and one little secret weapon from e-mu vintage keys plus ;) stringwheel. Great video, thanks
Very, very interesting and necessary comparison. Finally, I am quite clear about the difference between these modules. The difference is minimal.
Thanks a lot for taking the time to listen and to comment. At that moment I had all three of them (Bought the 2080 and sold the 1080) and I thought 'let's compare NOW! :D'.
Yes, the difference is minimal to my ears.
Soon I will post another comparison with two machines, a cheap one and an expensive one ;-)
This channel is the best find of this day for me. Love my JV-1010 (and my JV-880 too) and now much more after the side by side demo. Nice playing!!!
That's an awesome comment! Thanks for that.
Yeah, the 1010 is an awesome machine. It offers so much sound.
And the 880 is a great unit too. I love the sound of it a lot.
I sold the 880 though and now I have the 990 and the way it sounds is equal to me.
Very deep and wide.
Thanks for passing by and taking the time to drop a message.
Have a good one!
Great demo. Got a Integra-7 to cover similar ground. The JV and XV modules are hard to beat.
JV1010 is a killer! Just got one recently.
Congrats! Indeed a great little box packed with amazing sounds!
I love mines. It's also easy to install expansion cards. 😎👍
Bravo. A very useful demo with some REAL information we can use.
Thanks a lot for your positive comment ✌🏽🙏🏽
I got a 1010 when it came out,then bought an FA06 at least 15 years later only to discover a load of presets still were the same.I also have zenology which has loads of the old reliable Roland presets.Great video,sound quality is excellent
This is interesting ! Are actually some of the JV presets included to like the most recent Fantom-0 or Juno-DS ?
Thank you for sharing this comparison. Trying to decide which of these units I am going to get. Something about the 1080 that keeps calling me. Awesome comparison production!
A ton of 90's hits from Britney, N'Sync, BSB etc was based mainly on this module by Max Martin et gang. Very useful module
Can You List some famous songs?
You're putting me off now!
I came here for the synths, but I have to say... Beautiful piano playing. Very mellow. :-)
Thank you so much for taking the time to share the compliment! 🙏🏽🙌🏽
Hope you found what you were looking for, regarding the synths.
I still recommends JV-1080! I have that module and it is still the best choice. JV-1080 is well balanced between features, expandability, and sound quality. For sound quality JV-1080 is the best, more fat, more smooth.
But you may choose JV-2080 if:
- You are crazy for the SR-JV80 expansion boards and want a module with more slots to fit, rather than JV-1080.
- You like experimenting, mixing, outragerous editing and make something amazing until your friends will ask, "are you nuts?!" LOL
- You like to orchestrate all MIDI channels with multitimbral feature... of course 1010 and 1080 are able to do so, but 2080 has more and more thanks to it's 8x expansion.
- You are a big spender and like to jealous other musicians around you, or if you like to look cool on the stage.
Or you may choose JV-1010 if:
- You desire for JV-1080 or 2080 sounds at a valuable price.
- You just want to have fun, just want to play. No editing necessary.
- You like computer games with MIDI feature and would like to have a better GM sounds with a taste of JV sounds.
- You don't want to get more space on your desk for a huge rack module, or always mobile but lightweight to go around, because JV-1010's size is as equal as Roland SC-55mkII, Roland SC-88, or legendary Roland MT-32.
- You don't care for the expansions, you only focus to have a single SR-JV80 board, whatever your choice. You are a pianist? Choose SR-JV80-03 Piano. You like vintage sounds? Choose SR-JV80-04 Vintage Synth or SR-JV80-08 Keyboards 60s 70s. You want to have more multitimbral pop sounds? Choose SR-JV80-01 Pop, SR-JV80-07 Super Sound as the addition to SR-JV80-09 Session included in JV-1010. The choice is yours.
I thought all three boxes sounded really good. Differences are extremely subtle - the JV-2080 might be a little clearer, the JV-1010 has a little more sparkle to some of the sounds, and the JV-1080 is perhaps a little grittier.
If you played more than one sound at once, there is no way you could honestly tell the difference between them.
I got a JV-1010 recently, and it holds up perfectly well to the bigger brothers.
Yes! The 1010 is an amazing little box with huge capabilities.
Which be why I sold the 2080 as too bulky for live and I wasn't gonna edit it anyway and got JV1010 for the signature sounds
Nice playing, MIDI Maniac!
Thanks a lot!!
Very interesting comparison. 👍
Thanks man!
You're a good keyboardist and the video was soo very helpful!
Thanks a lot! Happy that it helpful to you!
Very difficult to tell any difference between the three, at least to my ears. The minor differences in sound might as well be a result of small changes in the performance between each take? (No offense:-)) What I DID notice, thought, was that soundwise, the 1010 is very close to its bigger brothers, despite being a cheaper, cut-down version with limited editing possibilities. Great playing, I'd love to see more JV videos like this! Thanks for sharing.
flimbosquest thank you for your great comment and no, I don’t feel offended.
You’re right about the JV-1010. Much cheaper and sounds terrific.
I will do another comparison with the JV-1010 and another even bigger brother.
Let see the difference between those two.
Stay tuned ✌🏽✌🏽
Fantastic video! Just bought myself a 2080 today!
The 1080 has wider stereo to my ears, thus make it sound like it surrounds you with 2.1 speakers. I like it the most.
Fantastic video! I have a JV-1010 and many times I read and listen that JV-1080 has a better sound than JV-1010. After listen carefully your video is possible say that is not true! To me JV-1010 and JV-1080 have absolutelly same sound. To my ears JV-2080 is a little brither and clean sound than your predecessors. Thank you so much. This video is was I looking for a long time!
Leandro Cleto Thank you for passing by and taking time to watch, listen and comment.
The JV-1010 is an amazing and underrated synth.
It has all sounds of the JV-1080 and JV-2080 + the Session expansion.
I love the guitar patches of the Session Card (69/70/71)
Thanks again!
💪🏽👌🏽✌🏽🤙🏽
A sugestion for new video in your channel: Roland JV-880 x (JV-1080 and JV1010 with JV-80 Patches ). Recently I load in "User Area" of my JV-1010 the patches of JV-80 (1-64-User). How the patches are the same of JV-880 (User) was possible compare these two units JV-880xJV-1010. As I readed and heard before, I can confirm that JV-880 have fuller sound when comparede with my JV-1010. JV-880 have a fantastic sound!!!! Think in this possibility since will be very useable for many folks and certanly your video production will be fantastic! If you need I can send to you a sysex file with JV-80 sounds to load in your JV-1010 and I think that will work on JV1-1080 as well. Thanks a lot!
Leandro Cleto thank you so much for the suggestion. I think you’re right about that topic buuuuuut....I sold my 880 & 1010.
That’s why I made this video just before sending away the machines.
I bought the 2080 because of the 8 card slots but I notice sound difference.
And yes, the 880 sounded very warm.
Grtzzz, Roger
I might get a JV-1010 for my 12th birthday! Along with the SR-JV80-02 Orchestral Expansion Board.
Thank you MIDI Maniac!
That's awesome!!! Enjoy that unit and already I wish you a great B-Day!
When I was twelve I got my Yamaha DX-100. I still have it and I'm now 46!
@@theMIDImaniac My birthday is August 20th.
@@theMIDImaniac But thanks for the early birthday message!
ZoogDisneyRocksRedeTupiRocks 1999 WAN AUTTP coolest 12 year old ever
Think I prefer the 2080 on all examples. Maybe cuz that was my first synth and what I grew up using. But I think it is the clearest and punchiest where the others sound a little muffled by comparison.
First synths always win the game. That’s where the love started. I will never leave my DX-100 for example.
Thanks for your comment and a happy new year 🥳
That was a treat to watch.
Thanks a lot for taking the time to leave such a positive comment.
I have a Roland JV 1010. I love it bc its not only powerful I also have the 60s and 70s Keyboards and WoW it blew my mind..... Roland rules.
That card is a great addition! Wonderful sounds.
It sure is. I do a lot of reggae From the V.I and predancehall stage Jamaica 🇯🇲 Bob Marley , Steel Pulse,UB 40 Peter Tosh Bunny Wailer, St. Croix V.I MidNite Band Akae Beka Ron and Vaughn Benjamin styles of reggae and Jazz Blues Rock 60s and 70s hammonds B3 Vox and Wultzer Steinway Pianos Fender Rhodes Suitcase Pianos Mellotronic Synths too Clavi s and all
I love them all.
We agree on that statement!
As a new beginner I brought a brand new JV-1080 & I got 4 expansions (Session, Dance Orchestral & the Keyboards 🎹 🎹🎹of the 60s & 70s & I am using it with my Akai MPC One in standalone also I wanted to know what is your opinion of the SR-JV80-99 Eperience Expansion board? because according to the Google search that I had found it has most of the patches of the original JV80-04 Vintage Synth expansion board & because I am doing Hip hop RnB & house music I found out that it’s much cheaper to get the JV-80-99 experience expansion board then paying over $200 for the actual Vintage Synth board
Ive managed to get a dance expansion card for the jv1010. It has some great pads on it.
That's a great addition! Indeed a very nice card. Your 1010 is now packed with great sounds.
I have the hip hop and the world cards. Love them. JV1010 is great.
1th 1080 2th 2080 3th 1010
Thanks for this! 🙏
@@antelthrope and thank you for your comment 🙏🏽✌🏽
All three are amazing!
For everybody who's interested in these machines, DonSolaris.com has a very nice presentetion - comparison of all the JV/XP line, the different DAC's they have, and the family tree, he goes deep enough in some details...
Personal, i think the difference is small, in a mix i think it's very difficult to define them...The JV-1010 sounds a little brighter to my ears, and this is more obvious in the "Steel Away" patch i think, and in some patches the jv-1080 seems to have a wider stereo image, and also some pads sounds a bit warmer, but i'm talking about minor differences, which i think would be lost in a mix....
So the JV-2080 and the JV-1010, may have a kinda "brighter" sound, which a lot of people take it as a disadvantage, but the difference is very small, (IMHO), and they have better MIDI implementation (more CC's instead of sysex..), and i'm not sure, but i think that the JV-1010 have even more (midi CC's..), than the JV-2080 has, but i'm not sure...
Anyway, Roger my friend, i saw the floods and all the damage they've done to some places in Spain...i hope that your place, your home and family is safe my friend... the pictures i saw was, ...oh, what can i say...i just hope you and your family are ok...really.
Patrick Martin Hi my dear friend! Thank you so much for your comment with great info and your personal concern.
Yes, we are alright and we saw the terrible images also.
It happened on the east coast of Spain and we live at the west coast.
The weather is here totally the opposite. Hot days and hot nights. For the first time this summer we have finally some summer but I feel sorry for the other part of Spain with all the rain and damage.
They’re not used to that amount of water. Where we live we are used to heavy rains. Therefore Galicia is that green in comparison to the rest of Spain.
And how are you doing? Long time no contact. Hope you and your family had a wonderful summer.
Un abrazo, Roger
@@theMIDImaniac Hey Roger...We had talked in the past about the SP-808, when you pointed me very well, that it's a very good phrase sampler, but it won't do the job that a "traditional" sampler would do, spread a sound chromatically in a keyboard, or make a drum kit...
I mean, the SP-808 has it's colour in the sound, it's great effects, and a (mono) virtual analog synth hidden in the effects, but it works as a "phrase sampler"...i'm looking for a traditional sampler, with a nice library, nice drum sounds, (which i could trigger with a TR-8..), and i can sample my synths in...
I'm thinking about an Emu ESI-32, or maybe an Akai S-3000, but i'm open in any suggestion that fits the bill...the money i've to get one, is 150 euro, maybe some more...i wonder if you have any suggestion, since i think you've got a lot of experience in the sampler area...
Thanx,
Patrick.....
@@PatrickDiAngelo Hi Patrick!
Yes, the SP is a Phrase Sampler. All SP's are Phrase Samplers so no interest in looking there.
If you're looking for hardware I do suggest the ESI-serie.
I see the ESI-4000 with expansion selling for 150€. An ESI-32 can be bought also for that price. More isn't interesting because then you better could use a computer. Yep...sorry for saying that...
The problem with hardware sampler units is that all has to be done with the tiny screen.
I do use my VP-9000 but sampling is mostly done with the MV. It works so much easier and quicker.
But the EMU ESI-samplers do have incredible filters. So, aim for those ones :-)
@@theMIDImaniac A computer..??? Heh..:) You're a bit crazy Roger my friend...!! Yep, for sure..;)
Well, if i had the cash i'd go for a MV, it's an almost perfect machine, IMO..(And yours, i'm sure..) .But since i'm low on money, an ESI would be fine..and don't mind the small screen..
This ESI-4000 you said, is still selling..?? Well, if smth gets your attention, let me know...you know, man...
Oh, and yes, it's the filter i like in the ESI ones, but the Akai's are fine too..(punchy drums, tight sound..).
Hey Roger man :-)
Hello sir how r u?🎉🎉🎉❤❤❤, i just purchased The Roland JV-80 and another JV 1010. Do you know if the JV-80 sounds a bit warmer than the JV1010 im just asking your opnion on this?. I just love them both. I got the JV-80 for 300 USD and the JV 1010 for 150 both thid month.
This video is one of the reasons why I bought my 2080. After getting my hand on it I have the following opinion: The JV 2080 is a great workhorse. Easy to use minus some strange workflow in the UI. But the Rev and Chorus are crap beyond redemption and always off when I work with it. The EFX section is very nice most of the time. But I prefer the sound and stereo image of an 880 or 220 over the JV 2080. The big advantage of the JV 2080 is the 8 expansion slots and the direct access to all patches on the expansions. But soundwise it is not that great in comparison to a YAMAHA EX5. Which, of course, is riddled with the "Resource full" problem of the DSPs in multimode. Together they make a great combo. I recommend the following: If you are for a fuller sound experience, go for a JV1080. If you want the main workhorse, choose a JV2080. But be prepared to swap out or layer the sounds when doing a production with another better synth like the EX5.
Can you please explain more about the difference between the 1080 and the 2080, especially in terms of effects? I don't plan to buy any extra cards but do plan to buy some 3rd party patch libraries, specifically ones by LFO Store and Don Solaris. I'm mostly interested in pads and textural stuff. I plan on using the multitimbral and route sounds out all of the outputs, so the layers can be panned in a surround sound field. You mentioned the 1080 being a fully sound, if you can expand on what you mean it would be very helpful. I had been leaning towards getting a JV1080 because it seems to be the easiest to find in good condition for a decent price. I like the idea of the 2080 being a bit more user-friendly due to a better screen, and also I like that it has more effects but I honestly have never really heard them in action, at least that I can tell.
@@beatnikcafe Hi, I used to own a JV-1080, which I replaced many years ago with a JV-2080. As far as I recall, the 2080 generally has a brighter overall sound compared with the 1080, which tends to sound a bit duller but consequently can subjectively sound a bit 'fuller' and 'warmer' than the 2080. I suppose it must have something to do with upgraded DACs on the 2080.
In terms of the effects, you get three EFX multieffects processors on the 2080, as opposed to only one on the 1080. This means that when you are working multitimbrally on the 2080, you can have up to three parts that can retain all their effects settings and routing from single patch mode, which definitely helps.
If you are going to be doing a lot of your own programming and patch design from the front panel, you would really appreciate the larger screen on the 2080, which can obviously show a lot more information at once, including graphics for things like envelopes and routing.
Finally, if you only ever consider getting one expansion card, the Vintage Synth card is definitely the one to go for (SR-JV80-04). I've found that for textures and pads, it massively increases the sonic palette of the synth, so that might be something that could work for you.
@@jamieferguson4380 thank you so much for your response, and also for mentioning the vintage expansion, I may consider it too, as it sounds pretty good from what I heard so far. I think I’m going to get the 2080, the extra effects and just being newer seems like a good choice.
@@beatnikcafe Thanks. I really think you've made the right choice going with the 2080, as the larger screen makes navigating the user interface a much easier and more enjoyable experience.
I forgot to mention that the 2080 also responds to standard MIDI CC numbers for things like filter cutoff, resonance and envelopes, unlike the 1080.
I really don't think you will regret buying a JV in 2022. Mine is still going strong and in daily use, for what it's worth!
Beautiful playing Sir
Thanks a lot! Really appreciated! 💪🏽👌🏽✌🏽🤙🏽
1010 for life
I’m not sure if my mind is playing tricks on me, but it sounds like the JV-2080 and the JV-1010 sound a bit more clean and crisp.
Your ears and mind are not playing tricks. The 1080 is indeed more noise and less crisp.
The big advance of the JV2080 is that it is way more easy editable because of it larger LCD ! I have 3x JD990 and JV2080 is identical in editing though sounds less 'transparent' and open than the JD990. It is also 32Khz vs 41Khz
sK3LeTvM 3x JD! 🤩
Since a few weeks I have one also and I’m so impressed. It sounds just so different.
That's why I have no jd990. Because you have 3 of them 😢😜
They call it "Nylon Rhodes", but it is the GM "nylon string guitar" :)
Get yourself an xv5050 it compliments very well the mv8000 and Vs2400 same gen hardware you can add also two srx. I got orchestral and ethnic. Got one to sell in Europe without srx for those interested.
The XV-5050 is indeed a great module.
Just sold the X-5080 because of buying a JD-800....
thanks for the video. Xp 60/-80 is the same jv1080 or 2080? Thank you
2080 seems to be more refined and mixed1080 sounds like a pre-mix, and 1010 sounds like a light version of 1080
Hair splitting. Same sounds, just depends on output noise, impedence, level etc.
very similar..2080 has 3 efx which is a big bonus
bradleylinemihler I confirm that statement!!
@@theMIDImaniac ya ihave the xp80 which is a jv1080 with a keyboard and an arpeggiator. All the jv1080 based synths are timeless but would have to say from what Ive heard there is something extra in the jd990 alright. the prices have gone insane for the jd
But the JV1010 has the same effects as the 2080, and the DAC from the XV5080, but yeah in a mix I do not think anyone would notice :)
Jv 1010 is fine to me. Is there any rack modulation of nord stage 3???
Daniel Rocha ITZ the 1010 is an excellent module.
I’m not into the Clavia-synths so I don’t know if there’s a rack version. Clavia Nord Modular perhaps?
@@theMIDImaniac But I wanted nord piano. Only modulete
Thank you so much !!!
And thank you for watching/listening and commenting!
Wish you’d compared organ sounds!
I have a chance to get a 1080 or the 2080 right now for a good price. What unit would you choose over the other? leaning toward the 2080 for the bigger screen.
You will be more happy with the 2080.
More sounds, more fx, more slots for cards and like you’ve mentioned - the bigger screen.
1080 is nostalgia, 2080 is an improvement.
Good luck on your decision.
@@theMIDImaniac knew about the extra expansion slots but more sounds by default? damn nice! that pretty much sells me on it if it has more sounds.
@@ZZEROO99 yes, it has 2 or 3 banks more and you’ll love those sounds.
There is no doubt that the JV-1080 sounds better than the JV-1010 and for that matter better than the JV-2080. It has a dramatic powerful sound with more scale and the effects are more vivid, something this demo does not make clear. I think you have to play the sounds yourself on a full-size keyboard with aftertouch to really appreciate the difference. The JV- 2080 is clean sounding but lacks the warm rich sound of the earlier modules. What is surprising is how good the JV-1010 is given the price!
Thanks for your comment. I admit that the 1080 is a great machine. I sold the 1080 and the 2080 to buy the 5080 but somehow the 5080 sounds too clean.
I kept the 1010 to have at least that 1080-feeling.
The JV1010 seems to have less high and low end, more mid range-y.
2080 is great, 3fx insert, 8 board slots, display LCD bigger, great to edit parameters... i love 2080... but in the question 'sound engine', there is no difference between the 3 modules
Thank you
Акустик Бюро and thank you too! 👌🏽✌🏽
Does it make sense? For example, such workstations as Motif or Kronos have many tool libraries that can be loaded from a PC to a workstation.While this module is pretty limited, or am I wrong?
What do you mean, does it make sense?
These modules are perhaps limited but on the other hand used a lot in the music industry. Some sounds are the basis of popular songs.
I’m not familiar with Motif/Kronos.
There are indeed workstations with much more possibilities.
These are just modules. Nothing more and nothing less.
@@theMIDImaniac Yes, I know about it and in this you are right. That is why I am asking you if it makes sense today to just have a sound module or not. for example The same VST tools replace these modules, on the other hand, the stability on the module is better. For example, the same MB8800 or MC909 has on board, in addition to instruments, but also a sequerzer, which is justified for its use in the modern world(they are also great instruments for live performances). As for Motif or Kronos, these are instruments with the same power (the sequencer is the same as on the MB8800 on the Motif, one kronos is more powerful, in addition, there are 9 engines)as on the MB8800, but in addition they have good integration with the PC for this they were created, for example, for Motif I have more than 38 gigabytes of commercial libraries, each instrument consists of 8 components that can be adjusted on an instrument or on a PC, toin order to just listen to them, you will need many months of continuous listening. I talked about keyboard workstations, although Motif is available in the REC version, but it is cut down, for example, there are no 6-8 thousand performers in it,not to mention the rest of the possibilities. I ask about the modules, since there is an opportunity to purchase several from Roland and Korg, there were no such Rek modules in my studio before, I only felt them exclusively as an acquaintance from my colleagues. My question is, in addition to the sounds, what can the module do today? Thanks for your answer and your time!Does it make sense for me to clutter up my studio with additional hardware using these modules? And Happy New Year to you and your loved ones!
sorry but 5080 for the win! been lost in mine most of the day. awesome.
So in addition to your DAW, you opt to use a digital recorder?
Bobcatt22 well...my DAW is the Roland MV-8800 and therefore I use the VS-2480 as my digital recorder.
I don’t use a computer DAW. For me #hardwareonly 😁✌🏽
I have all three of them. I really like the JV-2080 but I noticed that sound output is sometimes clipping and I have to set Main Volume really low to avoid this. And also I noticed some kind of latency on some patches. No latency ever of 1080 or 1010... Have you ever come across of some of these problems with your JV-2080?
Hi! Thanks for passing by and for asking.
I had the JV-2080 just a few months and I’ve never had that latency issue. Clipping yes. I had that also with the 1080 but always adjusted the mixer.
Thank you for quick answer. I mean not just that my Audio Interfce is clipping, sometimes the module clipps itself at the output stage. So I have to lower Main Volume pot and if that is not enough even set Wave Gain do -6dB for example bank E 047 Phaser MC. Anyway thank you so much for amazing video!
I prefer JV 1010... ❤️
The JV-1080 sounds the purest, the JV-1010 sounds thin and compressed, the JV-2080 sounds like a processed JV-1080.
The jv1080 is the winner when it comes to sound quality at 44.1 khz the jv2020 had only 39.0 khz a cheap trick to free up patchmemmory nice demo👍❤️
And that's why I sold the XV-5080 and bought the 1080 again.
That's absolutely INCORRECT. Both are 32k.
Only JD800 & JD990 are 44.1khz.
Correct info for all units below
JV-80 32k sample rate DAC: 18-bit PCM69P
JV-90 32k sample rate DAC: 18-bit PCM69AU-1
JV-880 32k sample rate DAC: 18-bit PCM69AP (main out)*
JV-1080 32k sample rate DAC: 18-bit UPD63200GS-E2
JV-2080 32k sample rate DAC: 18-bit PCM69AU
XP-30 32k sample rate DAC: 24-bit AK4324
XP-50 32k sample rate DAC: 18-bit UPD63200GS-E2
XP-60 32k sample rate DAC: 18-bit PCM69AU
XP-80 32k sample rate DAC: 18-bit PCM69AU
JD-800 44k1 sample rate DAC: 18-bit PCM61
JD-990 44k1 sample rate DAC: 18-bit PCM61P
From Don Solaris' Webpage - "I’ve read on GS forum some people claimed JV-1080 to be 44kHz DAC, but this is simply not true. If it was, then for start, the mirror effect (aliasing) would happen at 22 kHz, not 16 kHz"
I use a 1010 now I want a 1080 , I think it sounds best
Nice! One question sir..how conect the module sound jv1010?? A one soundcard? Sorry mi inglish y am from spain .
Suli gimenez hola!
Gracias por tu comentario y pregunta.
A ver, cual tarjeta tienes? Tiene entradas MIDI?
Y que quieres hacer?
Mándame tus ideas/preguntas.
Seguimos en Castellano porque vivo en Baiona, Galicia 😉✌🏽
Un abrazo.
@@theMIDImaniac tengo una focusrite 2i4 2 gen. Si tiene entradas midi. Lo que quiero es armar pistas en cubase. Y tener la mayor calidad posible,gracias por responder
Suli gimenez entonces lo tienes todo fácil.
Audio Out del JV-1010 a Audio In del Focusrite.
Midi In del JV-1010 al Midi Out del Focusrite.
Midi In del Focusrite al Midi Out de un teclado Midi.
No se como funciona Cubase pero seguramente es fácil de crear pistas Midi y Audio.
Así puedes grabar pistas con información Midi y pistas con audio todo sincronizado.
Un saludo.
@@theMIDImaniac vale pues muchas gracias !! Cuando tenga el pc lo probaré. Ya por último como favor, podrías grabar una pista súper rapida de piano y bajo con el método que me acabas de mencionar y mandarmelo a mi email para ver como suena?cuando tengas tiempo algo súper rápido. Como digo y si no pues nada ya me as ayudado bastante jjj un saludo muy amable
Suli gimenez vale, voy a grabar un vídeo para ti cuando tengo tiempo.
Va a ser una grabación del JV con mi tarjeta de sonido y Logic X
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Compare pitch shift effect...
i had 2080 in 1998 :)
Wedlug mnie 1 . 1080, 2. 2080, 3. 1010, ale nie we wszystkich barwach. Mam 2 pierwsze dopiero kupilem.
may i ask whats that sound in the begining ?
Of course you may ;-). This sound is coming from the JP-8080. Unfortunately not from one of the used units from the video.
Hi!Wonderfull demo.Which piano sounds the best to your ears?Perhaps jv1080 ?
Rishan Dorna thanks a lot!
My personal flavour is 1. 1080, 2. 1010 and 3. 2080.
I have the 5080 also. Sounds great too but the crispy sounds of the 1080/1010 are making it much nicer. 5080 too clean.
@@theMIDImaniac do you have Integra too? What you think compared to 1080, 2080 5080? Also, between 1080 x 2080, do they sound the same?
I have a 2080 on its way from the East of The Land Down Under to the Wild West. It should get here some time this year! I can't wait! Oh, wait! I have to wait. I should get a keyboard with waited keys!
Hahaha! Creative usage of language. Good luck in waiting and enjoy the 2080!
@@theMIDImaniac I got my 2080, and an Arturia Keylab 88mkii to play it with. I also have (well technically I have it, but it's out on loan atm!) a Roland RS-70 stage piano, which is also 16 channel multi-timbral. That should keep me busy for a while! The 2080 is bigger than I thought it would be, and I think it looks really impressive. I'm looking forward to a deep dive into JVEdit!
Correction: JV PatchEd.
Character In the video It's great, I like it a lot $$
Oh, thanks a lot! :D :D :D
1080 sounds warmer than the 2080 and 1010
And that's the reason why I kept the 1080!
@@theMIDImaniac goede keus gemaakt :-)!!!
Dont they have the same sounds?
Yes, they have the same sounds. The reason why I made a comparison vid was because people say that the JV-1080 sounds better due to it's chipset and that the JV-2080 is sounding too sharp.
To me they sound the same although I have the feeling that the 2080 has a bit more depth in the effects. I mean...it's an enhanced version of the 1080.
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I found out some interesting things about this series of synths recently.
It turns out that Roland liked to use their custom chipsets for quite a long time in different synths. I guess it makes sense, given the amount of investment it must have taking to get the chips made.
But, I didn't realise until a few years ago how far they went with that. Turns out that the basis for most of the JV series is the same as the old SC-55 synths.
The SC-55 main chip was used in things like the MC-303 Groovebox, and obviously lots of PC sound cards etc.
The JV series is just an extension of that old design, with more voices and CC params, and effects.
I've been looking into the data format of the SR-JV80 cards, too, and they all share the same basic format across all of those synths, right back to the SC-55. (once I'd figured out the sneaky scrambling that Roland did on the data and address signals).
It's neat to look at some of the schematics, and spot the same type of chips used for many of them...
www.synfo.nl/pages/servicemanuals.html
I only own the JV-1080, and sold my MC-303 a couple of years back.
IIRC, the 1080 uses a sampling rate of 32 KHz, and I think the 2080 does, too. So the main difference in sound is going to be in the type of DAC used, and even more so in the types of opamp for the final filtering.
There are articles on a few sites which said that the JV series use "MP3 style" compression, which is far from it.
They use a much simpler ADPCM style compression, but with separate tables that relate directly to the main sample data.
I'm hoping to eventually make hardware synths based on FPGAs, which are able to play the same sample ROMs as the JV series, and the LA32 chip (MT-32, D-50 etc.).
I agree that the 1080 often sounds warmer on certain sounds, for whatever reason.
If the ROMs and patches are exactly the same for those sounds on all three machines, then it can only really be the analog filtering done on the audio outputs that make the difference.
It is possible to modify most of these synths with a direct digital output which bypasses the DACs and obviously all of the analog stuff.
I might try that on the JV-1080 soon, and upload some clips.
Jv1080 the best
Do you use the editor to model these waves tables?
No, these wavetables are not modeled at all by an editor.
There's an editor on PATCHed for the JV-series but I didn't make time for it yet.
Interesting observations - I find that 2080 is darkest sounding, slight rolloff of highend. jv 1010 is in the middle with 1080 having the most highend and detail. What is best? that is up to the patch. I think most of the patches were calibrated for 1080 and might explain why it sounds "better" - I think Eric Persing has confirmed this, but I personally prefer a highend rolloff on digital patches to prevent ear-fatigue. The factory patches makes the 1080 sound best.
1080 is darker machine then 2080.
I have had the JV1010 and XP-30. XV-2020 and XV-5050. The JV1010 DACs are much worse then the others. Background noise, less dynamic range and some distortion.
I do have the XV-5050 now (all other machines are sold) and I agree with you.
It is one Family . But ... Someone prefers mother, another daughter . I prefer daughter😊.2080 is younger than 1080 .
1010 is propably the youngest but sounds like adopted .
Love your explanation ✌🏽👌🏽
1080 for me every time!
Indeed an awesome machine.
That sound is different.
I notice that the JD has that same ‘fat’ sound.
@@theMIDImaniac Yes! it's very strange that this happens with many Roland Synths, Although they have the same soundchip they have radically different sound and tone characteristics. and its only in a Vid like this that the differences are exposed. Great informative post!
Would have rather heard some strings and pads etc to be honest.
they really are the same...2080 has 2 extra EFX which can change things tho
Yeah, that can make a serious difference. Thanks for commenting that!
@@theMIDImaniac yep all effects off and patches all sound the same regardless of which JV/XP machine you use:)
Great job on this comparison! Does the JV-1010 have an internal battery which needs to be replaced once it's dead? If so how hard would it be to replace it?
Saludos desde Logroño
Hola vecino! Bueno...Logroño - Baiona es bastante lejos jejeje.
Thanks for passing by and leaving your question here.
The JV-1010 does have indeed an internal battery. My experience with replacing CR-2032 batteries is that it is quite easy.
Only on my DX-100 it was difficult because it was soldered but the rest of my Roland Synths were easy to replace.
Here a link to the service notes of the JV-1010.
www.synthxl.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/11/jv-1010-service-notes.pdf
Muchísimas gracias y un abrazo fuerte!
@@theMIDImaniacUn millón de gracias! Estoy a punto de comprar un JV-1010. Un saludo y quién sabe si algún dia coincidimos, Tengo 47 tacos soy un tarado de la música. Un abrazo.
The JV1080 and JV2080 share the same system, but JV2080 has 8 expansions and the JV1080 4
That’s indeed one of the benefits of the 2080. The bigger screen is also nice and the 3 fx group.
The JV2080 and JV1010 also contain an extra bank of 128 preset patches, not in the JV1080 that are excellent.
The 2080 sounds more brilliant and clear , the JV 1010 its a cheap version of the 1080, the 1080 sounds more analog, the sounds seems to me more weighted
Nice playing. I don't know too much about these units and trying to not let the name sequencer skew my opinion, but seems to me: 2080 seems most modern technology wise and most "realistic" 1010: sound the most "dated", but my favorite by far, very Roland, not quite realistic but that's kind of the point. very bright. sounds analog even. 1080: much closer to 2080, less dynamic range, like the sample bits aren't as high conclusion: I like synthy sounds so pick to 1010 as that thing would cut through mix and it just sounds so sweet, other wise for "realistic" sounds more suited for a formal, the 2080. And 1080 pales in comparison to those 2.
Thank you for your great comment.
I sold recently my XV-5080 to rebuy the JV-1080 because of the gritty sound.
I love the 1010 too.
With those two I have all the sounds of the 2080.
Tiny 1010 Kills....but no screen editing! We need to get the BCR working on all tones. Computer editing of 1010 no fun.
:D I am with you!
Great comparison. Good job! Check out my patches for the Roland JV/XV series here: www.softsound.dk/index.php/products/presets-patches/hardware-synths/roland-jv880-1080-vol-1
Thanks for your comment! I just bought your sounds to give it a try. Thanks!
@@theMIDImaniac Thanks a lot :-). Hope you enjoy, and please let me know if there´s anything I can do.
SoftSound.dk ok, thanks! Let’s find out how they are. Thanks for putting all the effort.
there is a big difference when it comes to warm pads. The JV1080 is much warmer.
I had to add some pads, you're right. Too bad YT doesn't allow adding content to an existing video. For a next vid ;-)
JV1010 is the analog little sister LOL I just bought one and two cards for it.
I"d put my XV5050 aside them. Sounds the same for the mentioned patches. Cheers
I totally agree with you. That's why I did a comparison between the XV-5080 and the JV-1010 just to show what you're mentioning here.
Ha ha ha . Przy 110 barwie najlepieje zabrzmial 1010.
Piano is a real shame. Even my Roland FP30 sounds better.
xv5080 sounds bland and soulless
Great demo. Got a Integra-7 to cover similar ground. The JV and XV modules are hard to beat.
Great demo. Got a Integra-7 to cover similar ground. The JV and XV modules are hard to beat.