Time for new skirting boards - easy scribe tips! (Renovation Part 29)
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- Опубликовано: 2 сен 2021
- Scribing skirting boards / baseboards is feared by many but in this video I’ll take you along on my skirting board fitting journey and give you some tips for ultra-fast scribes. I’ll also answer that age-old question, should skirting boards be tight against the floor or should you leave a gap?
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LOVE the sandpaper on the off cut. Genius.
Yeah, that one tip is worth the video alone.
How was the sandpaper on it lol
Cheers! Held on with spray glue. 👍
@@richardorton918 i wrap the sandpaper around a wooden spoon handle
The skirting looks splendid - just like it grew there. Not easy to do when nothing is square, plumb or level. I admired two of your clever tricks: the "sandpaper" and boxing in to hide the heating pipes.
Cheers Bob! Yeah, these old houses can be a challenge. Especially since the brick walls are a nightmare to fix in to. 👍😁
Love your work. Very therapeutic to watch. I still have and use my original B&D workmate, like yours, which I bought in 1978, just as I started my C&G Carp/joinery apprenticeship. Still Love learning, and watching your skills. Never underestimate yourself, which you do too often. Great work.
Fantastic video and most helpful explanation. The end result looks really great, despite the later adhesive issues. The sandpaper hack I particularly like.
In addition to the stellar scribing and general building work, the music choices throughout this series have really enhanced the whole experience of watching you work Andy. 😉👌
Cheers - glad you enjoyed it! But of Northumbrian folk influence this week. 👍😁
@@GosforthHandyman I concur with Mandy. So many videos on YT have intrusive music but Andy's method of using it to accompany dialogue-free sections of the presentation is particularly pleasant and effective. And I do enjoy the music chosen: in this video, what is the piece which starts around 08:15? It's lovely, evocative.
@@htimsid I just checked it on Shazam - it's Vårya by Sandra Marteleur. Very nice music choices in Andy's videos.
I grew up in a house built in 1898. I enjoy immensely watching you work, because our baseboards looked exactly like you are installing! It's so pretty. Today, many times, a cheapie rubber, is placed as the baseboard. Thank you! USA
Andy, a belated thank you for this video. Over Christmas I found myself fitting new skirting boards in our lounge-room (I removed the old ones to lay some laminate floorboards).
I am not a particularly handy person but your tips on scribing made a huge difference for me, giving me the confidence to give it a go.
I’ve seen video’s on scribing before, some of which were more confusing than help, but the way you explained your approach made it seem simple and easy to follow. In the end I was really happy with my first go and won’t hesitate to tackle the task again.
I get something out of every video you make and they are all highly entertaining.
Thanks again.
Michael
Hey Andy, next time you have to use grab adhesive, try an offcut first, apply a nice glob to one side of the MDF skirt/archi/whatever, then push onto the wall, THEN remove it! If there's adhesive left on both surfaces you're good to go, just plant it back in place again. Sounds daft but that way you know there is good contact on both surfaces
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Thanks for the video Andy, really good stuff.
One reason I had been given for doing the skirting boards after the carpet is laid is the knee bump stretching device the carpet layers use can't miss and therefore damage the finish on the new skirting. (but perhaps the carpet layers in the UK take a bit more care than their counterparts in Oz!). The other thing I like about doing the skirting later is you get to see the full height of the skirting board.
Two valuable "takeaways" for me in this video were: 1) it seems obvious now, but making sure the skirting board is vertical when attaching it to the wall. 2) to clean up the cut, making a sanding block to match the profile - priceless. Cheers, David
One thing I learnt when doing skirting is that you should use expanding foam in any of the gaps left by broken or missing plaster.
Love the skribing, going to steal that for the next project!
Love the music, Andy, so quiet and gentle. Another great job 🌞
Cheers Ray! 👍👍
I’m renovating our 60’s house at the moment, solid floors downstairs, so I reduced my pipes to 10mm plastic, as you have done, but I bought skirtings that had pipe rebates, so they went on a treat. I’m sure you know of their existence, but thought it was worth a mention. Keep at it, it’s looking good! Cheers
Great stuff! Yup, defo an option if it's in a design that goes with the house. 👍
Have to say good results in fairness for some doing this as a diy project. we use a cordless jigsaw for our scribes using a fine small diameter blade for the tighter radius. A nice sharp round rasp it also good on torus to clean the round and add a little more to the back cut.
Thank you so much. I think you are so good at the job and teaching how to do the jobs.
Another great vid, thanks. Absolutely loved the tip with the sandpaper, I've never seen that before. Regards to boxing in.... I definitely think that's the best way to do it, just make sure you raise the top of the box about 2mm above the top of the skirting so you don't have to try to fill and level them to match each other. You will almost certainly get cracks. Having the box raised slightly above the skirting just makes it look like it's all one piece and was made that way👍.
Good tip for raising the boxing and creating a little quirk! 👍
Never had trouble with no nonsense glue before. Many moons ago I was labouring for a carpenter friend ( no longer with us) . He was up against it fitting out 12 rooms ,doors and frames ,architraves, window boards ,skirting etc. Cut a long story short I gave him a hand ,he taught me how to do window boards , and skirting . He said stand in the door way ,look at the longest runs of walls and skirting those first . Less scribes he reckoned , worked a treat . we finished on time ,and I learned some skills . God bless him.
Yup great tip! Plus it's easier to do the scribes on shorter boards. RIP to your carpenter friend. 👍
@@GosforthHandyman Thanks Andy.
I worked as a site carpenter for many years and when training was told to avoid having a mitre and a sribe on the same board. So that If you have to adjust one you aren't affecting the other.
Handy tip: Use a flap disc when scribing for your internals! You will not get a better more accurate scribe!
There were some very useful tips there and I admire your attention to detail. Haven't used the water based adhesive so can't comment but support your view on MDF for skirtings and architrave. Liked your scribing method! Keep going, long way to go yet!!!
Agree with the adhesive and it failing. I’ve used 54 tubes of it and the only place I found it to work best was when I was putting on pvc panels. Afraid the rest will fail 🤦. Looking nice now at your place and I think we’ve been hitting the same stages nearly all the way through so is fantastic to have that little bit more advice. Keep up the good work
Looking really good - I have used lots of various no nail type adhesives for years and never really felt confident they will stand the test of time - I have now found a adhesive that really works and sticks and sets pretty fast it’s called MEGA STRENGTH ADHESIVE sold in Wickes made by STS - it’s a polyurethane adhesive and it’s ace too good in fact - keep up the good work 👍🏼👍🏼
Another bitty, fiddly job out of the way. Looks good as well and I really like the boxing method as well
Cheers! Nearly there!
I am enjoying this series, what I do miss is the good old fashioned anglo saxon words that normally go with a house renovation.
coming along nicely well done
Nice work! takes longer retrofitting in an older property. I call it vintage building when I have to match new and old work As you know making new work plumb and level against old work it sticks out like a sore thumb so I match the existing somewhat so it blends. love the content
Cheers bud!
Love the sandpaper trick worked on site as a chippy for 20 plus years and have never seen that, every days a school day! I still use hand saw and coping saw for scribes, find it easier and quicker. I cut the scribe at an angle so that they are easier to adjust. TBF you make the jig saw look easy though.
Cheers bud! And once you've made up the sanding board for a few different profiles they last for ages. 👍👍
Hello Andy mate. Love the videos, was up your end in Gosforth tother day and bloody surprised me how nice it was. Hope u get there in the end. God speed. John
Cheers bud! Getting there!
Thanks, it's getting there and looking nice
I should’ve watched the whole video before commenting on the skirting. Thanks for explaining your reasoning for fitting it. I do apologise. I have learnt my lesson and will only comment at the end in future.
A great job as usual. I liked your jigsaw method for scribing the skirting boards.
Cheers! Work pretty well and quite easy once you've tried it a few times. 👍
I've never seen the rough cut and then molded sanding technique for scribing... brilliant! :D
I've been using sticky foam to fit my skirtings this week, found it works really well and one can goes miles 👍
Cheers! Heard a few folk recommending that now! 👍👍
Also stops draughts getting in.
the sandpaper block template is a great idea ,my old design and tech support teacher told us about using a sandpaper mould instead of spending a long time fine tuning cuts
Defo, works really well in a lot of different situations. 👍👍
Looking good, Andy!
Cheers!
Looking great Andy 👍. Love the tip for the sandpaper spray mounted onto skirting to perfect scribes, genius! The adhesive issues are a strange one, I’ve used that type for years in literally 100’s of properties and never had an issue. I’m usually sticking to bare freshly plastered walls, so can only assume you’ve had a reaction between the mist coat of paint and the adhesive - not good either way and certainly something I’ll bear in mind.
Cheers! Yeah, I've had other issues with that contract matt so wouldn't be surprised if that was to blame. Awful stuff. 👍😂
The boxed-out skirting makes a great dust trap
I am currently having a go with a foam gun glue. Seen it used in USA video and easy to apply and goes a lot further than the tubes. Never thought of using jig saw upside down for the scribe trick. Always done it by hand.
I'm hearing good things about PU adhesive - worth checking out. 👍
Another recommendation for No More Nails applied in small circles... worked great. It also helps to apply pressure against the skirtingboard whilst the adhesive goes off, I had some kettle bells from 10 to 16 kg that were ideal. Kind of limits the speed you can do the job, but it's then there for the duration.
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Couple of things I've found with grab adhesives, pros and cons really... I find the thinner water based gear means skirting, architraves etc will sit closer to the wall. The solvent based equivalent, being thicker tends to be harder to push into place, so you end up with a bigger gap sometimes.
Also, if the bead of solvent based adhesive is thick, it can take a while before it really firms up, leaving a bit of movement...and the chance of whatever you are fixing sagging, so it might need tacking into place.
Another great video Andy
Good vid, I used the same jigsaw as you but switched to a barrel grip, feels loads better on the wrist
when im fitting skirting i get a short bit of skirting to write the measurments on and to use as a thickness gauge. then sart in a room on a double square cut or against an architrave etc. i use my laser distance measurer and work my way around the room anti clockwise using the scrap bit to hold it out the thickness of the skirting that will have been fitted. then take 2mm off the read out to allow a bit of tolerance to get it to fit.
i go anti clockwise because im right handed so it means im scribing the right hand end all the time and its easier . i often do 2-3 rooms at a time and cut all them together and mark them by the room and a number if they are very similar measurments.
great tip with the sanding board. definetly using that going forward
The method for making a scribe is a good tip!
The method to hide the heating pipes as used downstairs with the cutout made in the board is good IMO, from normal viewing angles it's invisible.
Where carpet goes I would set the skirting against the floor boards, when flooring like tiles or laminate is used skirting goes on top anyway after lying the flooring.
Reminds me of my previous house.Every single wall was like a dogs hind leg.Great work there though.
I liked the sandpaper trick i will use that next time.Thanks for uploading.
I like to chase the central heating pipes into the wall and bring them out into a metal (single socket type) box behind the radiator. This is neat and doesn't interfere with the skirting at all.
Looks great. Good job. Love the videos. 😊😊
Thank you! 👍😁
"Nothing is flat, nothing is plumb, nothing is true" - didn't realise you'd seen our house 😉 I used MDF skirting when we did hard floors throughout the house. At least something ended up straight !
Thanks - a terrific video - clearly you are king of skirting boards!
The sandpaper tip looks very useful. Personally, fitting skirtings is one of my most hated jobs, for all of the reasons you showed in the video.
Incidentally, doing a scarf joint (or not) for long runs is perhaps a useful topic.
Cheers! Yes, scarf joints on joins is a must. 👍😁
I thought I was ok with DIY until I watched your videos
When you first mentioned the bit behind the front door, I was thinking that looks like plenty of room to me.
Ha, yeah it's close. 👍
Multi stick works a treat!
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Another great video, thank you. The contract matt paint is designed for new plaster and so is quite an open structure, which is chalky/dusty when dry. Maybe that assisted in causing the glue to fail. Just a thought.
Cheers! Yeah, I think this might be to blame too. I need to do some tests. 😢👍
Had the same issue with that adhesive on freshly plastered and primed walls. No problems with it on older painted walls at all. I reckoned the new plaster sucked the moisture out of it even though the walls were misted.
u r doing a great job keep it up
Cheers bud!
I used that glue for my skirtings with no fixings and they are still nicely holding firm..
No idea what's going on with these ones 😂
You should try Toolstation instant nails, and apply it in circles so you get like a suction effect. I've also been using soudal gripall solvent free recently which has been good aswell
I commented the other week saying I wished you chipped the rad pipes into the wall but that looks really good you have used mini bore for the rad pipes yeah? My plumber didn’t want to use it with mine being concrete floor downstairs so I had to chip mine in and use angle valves out from the wall, but yours does look nice and neat your skirtings are finishing the renovation off nicely 👌 it’s good when you get to this stage!
Cheers! Yeah, my plumber was a fan of the 10mm for the tails so happy with this and looks really good! 👍
The solvent free adhesive needs specific application in my experience. Usually wiping down with a damp cloth, apply to the skirting, push to the wall, remove again then push back into place.
I did wipe down the wall but that contract matt is terrible. Will never use it again. Could well be to blame. 👍
Love the sandpaper tip, I’ll be doing that.
I would have chased in the radiator pipes I think, not a fan of boxing, always makes me wonder what it’s hiding!
Cheers! Chasing brick is a nightmare mind. 👍
Sounds like Northumbrian pipes (Katherine Tickell) - for the background music at the beginning..... delightful....and the "glass door" looks better for the fitting of your sympathetic architrave.
Cheers! Yes, I thought it was quite traditional Northumbrian music. Certainly influenced. 👍
I’ve been using spray foam and pins for my recent jobs, works so much better for me compared to grab adhesive
Yup heard good things about this! 👍👍
You and Morgoth are my two favourite Northeasterners 👍
Thank you! 👍
Always start in a room right to left of your right handed then you always do the scribe with your right hand and the scribe goes on the right butting up your previous flat. I learned that from RUclips.
If I was sticking skirting again now, Id use multistick every time Ive been really happy with it. For the ones you plan on taking off again Silicone applied in circle seemed to work well, kind of creates a suction effect and easy to get off.
Agree about the circle technique, makes a series of little suction cups. I did them the size of £2 coins spaced out every 3 or 4 inches. Worked a treat.
Good tip!
Re gap or no gap if fitting into a solid floor laminate/tiles etc I put 2 layers of thin card (cereal carton) under at various points then when painting you can insert card or paper under to protect the surface
Yup I sometimes do this on solid floors too - good tip!
Hi sir. Yes a bit of a disappointment regarding the adhesive, no doubt many others have come unstuck, excuse the pun with this product . As it happens in your case its not a mega problem , I’ll be sticking to good old no more nails which I’ve used for years . We often joke if you took all the adhesive out of our house it would probably fall down . Like the idea of the jigsaw and sandpaper , I did all mine with a mitre cut and a coping saw but you way is definitely quicker and better . Nice to have these updates bless you. Best wishes and kind regards as always 😀👍👍👍
Thank you and take care! 👍👍
Might have to steal that tip about the sandpaper on the off cut.
Like my dad always said before he left to go the shop for a loaf back in 2001, try your best, caulk the rest
Love it hahahaha!
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Just fixed 15m of picture frame at 3m off floor. Used the No Nonsense Solvent Free, not a single physical fixing. Stuck over Fibreliner. Not one issue, can't recommend it enough.
I don't think it matters how often or how many any one does a day, you still need to take care to do a good job. As for the carpet grips! Termites love them!
I also think it's a personal choice for on the floor or on the carpet, Either way the carpet will get paint on it if one is not very careful!
Cheers.
Thanks for sharing! I was about to click off when I saw you were using the 'complete Nonsense' solvent free shite. But glad to see future you fessing up to how terrible it really is! I tried it many moons ago on a kitchen job. All it had to do was hold a couple of 3mm packers in place, and, surprise, surprise; it just wasn't up to the task. Longer working time? The swine just wouldn't go off, and the packers kept falling off the wall.
I fitted some skirting in my own kitchen temporarily using hot glue. It is still holding strong after months, and will break off easily when I'm ready to renew the flooring.
I use GE Silicone II for adhering all kinds of materials in construction.
It works well as a glue and sealer.
If you want something more temporary, try latex caulk. It doesn't solidify as hard as silicone caulk.
Silicone is a little too permanent for this, but yes I've found normal caulk works pretty well! 👍
@8:50 Ya gotta love that there is a dust collection bag on the saw but it only catches about 25% of the mess.
Yeah, it don't work great. 😂😬
I found my belt sander useful with bits sticking out from wall, in my 30's property.
Indeed! The belt sanded is a beast for fixing stuff like this. 👍
Soudal fix all. Job done.
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Good progress 👍🏻 Always preferred fixings rather than glue for skirtings bcoz they get whacked often and glue can rip off the plaster should the skirtings need removing. Slower though since more filler and paint needed. Many thanks for the update and tips 🙏🏻
Cheers! Yeah, fixings are a nightmare in older houses since the bricks are so hard. SDS everywhere. 😢
I'm with you on this. I've tried glues and can't get on with them.
I don't think the gap under skirting boards (base boards) here in the states(usa) is not even a discussion i have ever heard of! I do enjoy seeing the ways you do things in the UK. Very nice job! I do love old houses but they are not straight or level ever!
Cheers and glad to hear it! The gap is an on-going argument over here. 😂👍
im so excited its almost moving day!!? weve all been on this journy with you. whats the first movie you guys are gonna watch\?
Ha ha watch this space! 👍
Thanks for the heads up on the adhesive! I have a ton of skirting to do so good to know! Think I'll stick with trusty Pinkgrip! Good tip on the scrap skirting sanding block, not seen that one before.
Great vid. Water based products shrink. Skirtings (Baseboard in my world) get poly construction adhesive.
Thought gaps under skirting were best practice to account for flooring changes (laminate), to account for out of level floors like you said. The gap would be dictated by the difference between the highest and lowest point of the floor in the room
Love the taste of MDF dust in the morning 🤪
hi very impressed n its never easy in an old house ,,,i do quite a bit of skirtings and usually its a day to do a house but yours is quite a challenge to any joiner ,,,i use an angle grinder with a rough sanding disc to remove wood for scribes ,,,but enjoyed your video ,,,,
Cheers! Yeah seen a few folks using an angle grinder for the scribes. Fast once you get the hang of it! 👍
Whoa that sandpaper tip 🤯
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Try EverBuild MultiStick for your skirting boards - not expensive & works well !
I put my skirtings on with No More Nails. They are still on!
Me too, worked great.
Yeah, I think the problem is this water-based No Nonsense stuff... 🙄🤔
How do you create glued sand paper? Great idea how did you figure that out? I love it!
Another canny vid Andy. I may have been tempted to use decorators caulk to fix the skirtings temporarily instead of water based adhesive! As you know, it's quite flexible as opposed to grab adhesive. I suppose it's getting a balance between the skirtings being "eye sweet" and them being level. The only problem you may have if the skirtings were not level, is if you intend to have a patterned wallpaper, then it may highlight the unlevelness (😁) of the skirtings! My preference would be to fit the skirts tight to the floor to stop any beasties from taking up residence.
Here in West Monkseaton we get quite a few big 8 legged monsters🕷🕷🕷🕸🕸🕸 making their presence felt in September/October! Keep up the good work😍
Decorate chalk doesn’t set like glue it will fall off once it drys out in a few months
That’s the point.Andy does’nt want a permanent fix!
Ha, I ended up using caulk to fix the ones that fell off - worked better than the No Nonsense adhesive. 👍😂
Andy - a popular RUclips carpenter did a bit of a test with various grab adhesives (maybe last year). The solvent free types generally didn’t do that well against the more expensive polymer ones in an mdf skirting situation. I can’t recall the details so might be worth you watching. Might of been the primed (but still porous) mdf sucking the moisture out of the adhesive before it has time to bond properly.
I’ve not had much of a problem with my go to adhesive “gripfill solvent free” but I do keep some stixall handy for the jobs where I want something to stick with no arguments 😁
Was that Robin Clevett? I need to look it up. 👍
@@GosforthHandyman yes mate
The scribing is great, I'm definitely trying this instead of internal mitres. Unfortunately my next job is polystyrene coving; don't think it'll work for that.
Not keen on the cables coming through the skirting. Will a patress box go over the hole? I think I would grab the diamond disk angle grinder and SDS chisels to chase out for oval conduit and backing box(es) before plastering. Bit of a pain but would look nicer.
In the US old homes have an additional molding called the shoe (bumper) made of a circular pole cut into fourths called a quarter round. This additional molding is put into the skirting as the bottom most and can be used to make up irregularities in the floor and the walls. Don't you have similar in the UK?
"Character", that made me laugh. My own home certainly has loads of that. Great series of videos Mr Mac, thanks for taking the trouble to pass on all of these tips. Can I ask which model DeWalt mitre saw you are using here and is it recommended?
A spring notch behind the door should stop any rubbing I would think 👍🏽
Nice work - and most disappointing about the Screwfix ‘seems like nonsense’ water based glue. I wonder if priming the walls with a PVA solution may have helped?
Personally I prefer base blocks and butt the skirting up to them .. also love the high deep skits easy to do just rip 200mm or higher 12mm ndd then put moulding onto ( comes ready with the 12mm groove so it sits tight onto of the mdf. Bonus is the groove is deep and allows u some play to ensure it looks level
Yeah! They're good. Not sure they would go with this style though. 👍
I watched this after scrubbing the edge of a carpet, which was black from having a gap between the skirting and the floor. Not the ideal way to spend an evening. I filled the gap with accoustic sealant.
This vid dropped just in time as I’m about to do our living room once I’ve put the wooden flooring down. Is there a solvent based glue you prefer to use/recommend?
Gap or no depends on the build before carpets and tile gap, after carpet and tile hard down. Amd mdf is a carcinogen si a mask is a must unless you have a deathwish. Your 81 sec cope; i can do in half the time with coping saw. Tip: use your mitre saw to cut the straight bits. 3 bed house used to take me half a day, but at 60 its a day
Andy... No Nonsense .... Found out the hard way when customer insisted on using this.... Carpet fitters arrived and knocked a load off... CT1 all the way now... Bob.
Cheers! Yeah, it was after the carpet fitters came that it all fell off. The fitters said they'd seen this a few times with that glue. 😢👍
i all ways go round a room anti clock wise that way the miter saw does most the cutting when it comes to scribing ie cutting the long strait bit on the bottom edge but im right handed
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this is a really handy video as am busy fitting skirtings now how do you mean about a normal jigsaw blade and not a doward cut blade cheers
Great job! Robin Clevett (UK Chippie) who has a RUclips channel and he did one on the various glues for skirting that was pretty interesting, talking about merits of one Vs another. Could be worth a butchers if you wanted to see what he thought
I need to check this out! Haven't seen that one. 👍