Boss Katana Speaker Upgrade (Celestion Vintage 30)
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- Опубликовано: 7 сен 2024
- In this video we will A/B the two speakers. The amp is set to 50watts and is played at a pretty loud volume to drive the speakers.
1:26 - Stock Clean
1:59 - Vintage 30 Clean
2:33 - Stock Crunch
3:22 - Vintage 30 Crunch
4:09 - Stock HiGain
4:39 - Vintage 30 HiGain
Our verdict is the Celestion Vintage 30 is warmer, cleaner and slightly less flabby on the bottom end. It makes the Katana sound less "artificial."
However, beware because the cost of a new speaker is almost half the cost of the amp depending on which model you get.
1:26: Stock Clean
1:59 V30 Clean
2:33 Stock Overdrive
3:22 V30 Overdrive
4:09 Stock High Gain
4:39 V30 High Gain
Thanks for doing this comparison. I have one of these speakers laying around and the big complaint I have about the Katana is the harshness you're referring to. It sort of disappears in the mix when I play with other instruments but practicing by myself sometimes it can drive me nuts. Doing this change right after I finish this comment.
i just got the artist 2 katana and feel exactly the same about the waza kraft speaker , every speaker i tried in it's place i liked better , they were some speakers out ov my crate tube amps and a eminence swamp thing , i read were a guy put his waza craft speaker in his dsl40 marshall and he said it sounds glorious in it ,food for thought ....
Through my headphones, it probably sounds completely different than what you are hearing, there isn't much difference clean. Stock speaker smokes the V30 at high gain, woolly vs fizzy, but again that is through my headphones. Thanks for the video, I was thinking of swapping my Katana's speaker.
You heard correct regarding the high gain, but increasing the bass with the V30 installed is way better
I noticed a lot creamier tone throughout the range clean. It didn't completely change the character of the amp other than that for me. I also noticed what you said about the distortion sound being a little too on the bright side but I don't think it sounded worse than the stock speaker, just different. I'll have to try it myself to see if I like it.
a V30 is definitely gonna go in my 100w Katana MkII amp, sounds a heap better, esp mic'd. Just have to be careful with the V30 being a 60w speaker
Podría ser un v30 y un creambak para darle tanto crujido en las distorsiones y nitidez y frescura en los agudos?? Puede ser que crees
Eso es lo que no entiendo el el caso del BOSS katana 100 mkii como solo tiene que ser 100 watts los dos altavoces por eso no se puede poner dos de 60 watts como son los vintage 30, pero si compro el BOSS katana 100 mkii cabezal de 100 watts puedo comprarme aparte un gabinete que tengan dos v30, así creo yo o que crees ru
I have the katana artist mkii and compared the Waza and v30 and have to say both sound great with their own characteristics, Waza def more bass heavy where the v30 was more tight and defined on low end but also have to note kept the Waza in its original combo cab and v30 was in a custom box I built that sealed air tight
My thought, the V30 has a tighter top end, but It would not transfer well to a Strat or Tele. It would sound more tinny, with less defined bass. I don't hear flab in the stock speaker. I play/record/post to Twanger Twanger Central with big fat beautiful tone, not flab.
Stock is better for Slow Dancing In A Burning Room which I get right now pretty nicely. Same with many blues tones, Jimi Voodoo Chile (the blues one)
I also get closer to SRV than I ever have even with a Fender Deluxe with a Zendrive 2. That rig has great tone but my Kat also gets a very great tone,,, and imo has more clarity than the Fender/Zen.
Wanna buy a great Zendrive 2?
I'll stick with the stock. But I have to say hands down the V30 is the best Celestion speaker I've heard.
I like the stock too!
Thanks for the video but to me the stock speaker sound better.
Thanks for doing this
I think the vintage 30 has a much fuller sound.
Sounds much better with the V30. I use a Jenson c12n in my 1x12 cab and v30's in my 2x12. Both are an improvement over the stock speaker. Much more definition with the v30.
some say that if you change the speaker you can't "have" the acoustic channel. Is this real?
@@bastianmaoro8278 no not true at all. The acoustic channel is just a studio pre amp. It sounds ok but I never use mine. Get a better sound straight through the PA.
Keep in mind a V30 must be broken in for a good long time to get sweet. I have the Artist and still breaking in the Waza. You cant really take a good opinion until speakers get well broken in, both or all speakers. I do not gig with a brand new speaker. I have to break it in very well before I gig with a new rig or cab.
True. The V30 we used was one of mine that was well over 10 years old.
I have one of these and I put a Wazacraft G12W in it. Uuuuge difference.
V30 was way better with high gain!!! Cool!!!
The speaker helps a lot with that but that’s also because their high gain tone was shit, it had way too much bass and no where near enough mids, so the V30s boost the midrange and cut some of the bass. They could’ve gotten a similar tone with just screwing with the tone knobs, that being said, V30s are great speakers and they will definitely help the sound.
Not much difference being the Kat is voiced after a v30 I think the V30 is a little quieter and very slight tighter bass.
What I've found with in making some of these videos is that sometimes what's seems like a big difference in person isn't as noticeable in recordings; and sometimes what seems minimal in the recording is actually exaggerated in person. With this particular instance it's more noticeable in person. The Main difference is in the HiGain sounds. We purposely drove the bass hard to show how much better the V30 could handle it. And the other speaker we did in our other video was the Redback and it handled the bass even better.
If I put a Vintage 30 in mine and run it on 100W, will I damage the amp?
That’s a very good question. I don’t think it will damage your amp. If it was a tube amp I would be much more concerned. However, since the vintage 30 is a 60w speaker, you definitely don’t want to run it at 100w past half volume because if the speaker receives more heat than it can handle then the coil will begin to melt. If you can, try to find the amp’s actual maximum output power.
@@mmagoon67 Thank you. I've been thinking of just getting one of the new 50 watters and putting a new speaker in it and keeping my 100W as a backup.
My friend doesn't really use the 100w setting on his. Honestly the 50w setting seems plenty loud enough.
@@mmagoon67 I rarely even use the 50W setting on mine, to be honest.
Hi. I've got a celestion v30 16ohm . Can I put it in the katana 100mk2 which has an 8 ohm speaker. I love the sound of the v30 but cant spend on the 8ohm version right now. I read online that it won't hurt the amp but might cause some volume loss which is not an issue for me. Is it ok to do the swap??
As far as I know unless someone shows me otherwise it's always best to match the ohms with the amp.
No…sleep… til katana!
Could i put v30 into 50w mk2? Would it have problems since speaker is higher w then amp itself im beginner...
Absolutely. A speaker that can handle more than the wattage of the amp just means you won't be able to hurt the speaker no matter how much you push the amp.
Thats a 50w version ? What speaker should i get for the 50w version ? Impedance 4 or 8 ohms ?
Sorry for the extremely late reply. It's a 100 watt mark 1 amp. 8 ohms impedance.
I ended up swapping the stock speaker for a celestion redback and I've been really happy with it.
Its valid from boss katana 50 mkii or its only for boss katana 100?.
Thanks,excuse me for my inglish level🙏
If you're talking about whether you can swap this same speaker into the 50w as well as the 100w then the answer is yes. I would say the lower the wattage the safer it is.
the 50 watt speake ris awful so its easy to improve
I’m pretty sure more people want a tight sound rather than a fat sound. Fat tones sound like flubby ass. V30 any day.
480p... shit, I must have travelled back to 2009 while sleeping!
I don't ask it to be bad quality lol All I care about is good audio.
Which impedance si better? 8 or 16 ohms?
I was going to do a video a while back answering that question but I couldn't because the 3 tones I recorded were all identical. My conclusion was one isn't better over another, different impedances are available for speaker and cabinet matching only I think. At least that was my experience with what I used. I can't speak for all.
You may be hard pressed finding this info, but if you do be sure to let me know because I'm curious about it too.
@@mmagoon67 sure, so in this video the speaker you used is 8 or 16 ohm?
@@danielcastillo5525 I actually don't remember. I wanna say 8 ohms.
I thought the high gain was better on the V30, otherwise kind of a toss up to my ears.
Agreed. Pretty much every video I’ve ever watched comparing speakers, tube, mics...the clean channels are generally the same. That’s why I typically skip clean channels in my videos.
The V30 was clearer for sure, very minimal but the tone game is a game of MM
If I do this how many ohms and wattage should I get?
If you get the Vintage 30 it will be a 60 watt speaker. Just be sure not to run your amp at full volume. And I'm pretty sure an 8ohm speaker will do, but be sure to get as much info from your owner's manual as you can before you get one.
@@mmagoon67 I never run it at full volume and I have it at 50 watts at all times
@@followthereaper665 Perfect. Donnie's speaker is an 8 ohm so I would assume yours would be too. And he just bought the speaker with the same rating as the original.
@@mmagoon67 I should be able to just look at the stock speaker and see how many ohms it is right? And most importantly, the speaker is quick connect? No soldering required?
@@followthereaper665 Yes, match the stock speaker if it has that information on it.
The Vintage 30 has slightly different sized plugs if I remember. Donnie didn't solder his connections, but securely taped them using electrical tape. But the connectors will, more than likely, be different sizes. So, you would need to figure that out.
What amp was used? A 100 watt mk1?
Yes, the 100w MK 1.
@@mmagoon67 was wondering if you replaced the katana artist speaker or the non-artist speaker. Thanks for the reply
The speaker in my friend’s amp is the non-artist.
@@mmagoon67 thanks for the reply
any celestion speaker i own sound terrible bad at my katana mk2 head.and i can say with my hand at heart that the 5 '' stock speaker sound 10 times better no bs
Using the cheapest guitar ever lol no hate I love my special II
Definitely a cheap guitar but hasn't failed me yet!
Learn to tune the guitar before do speaker swaps. Your ears are not good enough to hear speaker differences if you can't hear you're out of tune!
...noted.