Tulsa Police: Gunman Was Disgruntled Hospital Patient Who Targeted Former Doctor
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- Опубликовано: 11 июн 2024
- Tulsa police officers explained the timeline of the deadly Oklahoma hospital shooting where four people were killed by gunman before dying by a self-inflicted gunshot wound. The authorities believe that the suspect was a former patient at the hospital and targeted a doctor.
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He was my surgeon 10 years ago. He literally saved my life, this was before Obama care and my insurance refused to pay for anything related to my neck and back. My cervical spine had deteriorated to the point Dr Phillips said driving over a speed bump could snap my neck. I would cry myself to sleep at night because of the pain, and fear of it never being fixed, it was considered a pre-existing condition, 3 other doctors denied me because of my insurance. He was the only one that cared, after seeing my MRI, he did emergency 9 hour surgery knowing my insurance was not paying. He is extremely caring and genuinely wants the best for his patients, but he's conservative with pain meds. He doesn't want to see his patients fall into addiction so he only gave me like 45 5 mg of hydrocodone (I think, maybe less) when I left the hospital. I know it came from a place of concern, and appreciate him looking out for me in every aspect. The world has lost a gentle, caring, and extraordinary Surgeon.
Wow. Amazing story. Thank you for sharing. May he Rest In Peace.
And how long before you felt ok again? What did cure your pain that once made you cry yourself to sleep? Cause I can't see the light at the end of the tunnel. 4 wks after hosptilation and I'm in agony
Oh no that's horrible.
Sad and tragic. To be that mad with someone you will actually shoot unarmed people and go after a doctor. This is like a law and order episode
Dr. Stephanie Husen was my orthopedic doctor and also my late husband's doctor. May she rest in peace!
AR15. Ridiculous how these weapons are sold like candy.
Not different the. Any other semi auto rifle. Guy could done with with bolt hunting rifle which shoots much deadlier round. Media makes the ar15 out to be this all powerful horrible gun so that’s what shooters pick since it’s gun Media recommends. Probably best they dot choose 308 or 3006 rifle which would go through multiple people. Look up Texas tower shooter.
You lie. These firearms were not sold like candy is.
Keep in mind it was a guy with a gun that stopped this
Great question I’m trying to figure that out myself 🤔
@@dave8599 Police are very different from civilians.
@@rachelt4792 how so they often train less. Also police are civilians they aren’t military units,
Texas need to learn from this chief. He got his information together and to me sound accurate as fxxk.
They didn't do anything. Guy killed 4 people and shot himself before they even got to the 2nd floor. To be fair, there wasn't much they could do.
Johnny Tanise--this Texas RN agrees with you.
It's "Texas NEEDS to learn.." and it's "to me he SOUNDS accurate as fxxk" Why do you people always leave the "S" off of words?? Please stop butchering the language FFS!!!!
@@kurtwilliams1859 So I guess you don't have an issue with police waiting while that demon butchered those poor babies. SMH
@@timgrey1239 🤡
the woman hiding who was forced to observe what transpired; although not "physically injured," will most likely have severe PTSD.
Well yes she will have PTSD. It sucks. I have it and it’s a b*tch to live with
and survivors guilt...
Yep been there done that! Night terrors, panic attacks, whole nine yards! But some people don’t get it some can just move on. Not many though!
This is a sharp police chief. You can sense his insight.
What a difference competent police officers and leadership makes!
TPD rocks!! 👊🏼
Big city vs. small rural town? More police experience involving violent mental issues?
@@tomthelen8069 Small town cops doing crowd control of parents and threatening to taze them for an hour while kids inside were murdered. How many of those kids would still be alive if they had engaged him instead. Heads need to roll over what happened in TX last week, period, small town pd or not. Starting at the top.
@@tomthelen8069 nothing excuses the sub-human performance of the uvalde police who let 19 children and 2 teachers die. doesn't matter if its big city vs small rural town, they didnt do the one thing they're expected to
@@tomthelen8069 Ew, are you excusing the Ulvade police response??
This is quite unfortunate. As an RN, often, we are caught in this tag between patients and doctors on pain management. Post surgical pain is real but I also understand the regulations for opioids subscriptions doctors have to adhere to. Personally patients should be able to get at least 2 weeks of effective break through pain meds. I’ve had patients get Tylenol orders or the lowest dose of narcotics 2 to 3 days post op which is unrealistic. Not every patient is a drug seeker. I’ve been scolded many a times by doctors advocating for such when it’s absolutely necessary. We have some really good doctors and some are dismissive of patient’s needs. It’s such an unfortunate situation this is. Condolences to all affected by this incident.
I was studying to be a RN then I saved a womans life & got spinel stenosis & had 7 foot surgeries. After each I got off opiods but back pain is all consuming not just when u step on ur feet. Covid killed 5 nurses I went to school with but this chronic pain with little amount of pain meds would hurt my soul since Ive had 20 surgeries. I NOW KNOW PAIN & who cares if I die Drs dont care about my pain! Cartels fentanyl I swore Id never give a cent to, is starting to look good & they deliver!
I too am an RN and I agree! Truly sad situation.
People need to learn self care but you don't teach it to them! All you care about is money! I teach self massage to millions here on RUclips. Why don't you f-ing watch it and then pass it on so that people don't have to do the mother f-ing meds!? GET REAL! GET NATURAL and STOP with your B.S!!!
Truth. As a Chronic Pain disabled person, not currently being tormented by the "Inquisition," the Anti-Medication Zealots. But I certainly have been. Every day I suffer, not only from the 5 legitimate and well documented pain conditions/sites, but by daily pushing through pain, pushing.... And sometimes (during parts of 2010-2016; with threats too since), being tormented, even at times tortured, by the self-righteous smug anti-medication zealots -who massively and sweepingly (as if it applied to everybody), pride themselves on tormenting patients with legitimate pain, self-deluding themselves they are "sparing them from addiction" /Except that people differ very much on whether they're prone to addictions (I'm not) or not; and what is true is they are being tormented and tormented instead of medically helped. I should have better relief (so I don't explode) for some of the jobs/ rep. motion tasks I must do. We'll see.
Add to that, some people have gene errors where they may metabolize meds like oxycodeine either to quickly or slowly, so it's less (or more) effective. Oxycodeine has absolutely no effect on my pain, so I use ibuprofen to help dull after surgery pain. If people were treated for these gene errors before getting surgery it might lead to better understanding of pain control.
He wasn't disgruntled, he was in pain. Pain takes away your humanity. My heart goes out to everyone affected.
exactly
Those in the Medical field knows that constant pain, changes a person's personality and mental function.
As a chronic pain patient myself for years, I do have many bad and sometimes unbearable days but I can’t see me putting someone else in pain, let alone take their life. It’s too easy now to go and get a gun to solve problems.
This clown had pain- we all have excruciating pain at times but don't shoot up a place with innocent people everywhere. This cowardly shooter was from Haiti (obvious with Louis surname) and the doctor was prob Black American native. Trump was right about letting in all 'these' from "sh...h0le" countries. R.I.P to the doctors killed, the female hospital worker and the older gentleman patient. FK Louis...
@@lumenmom exactly.
Losing a doctor is like killing half of his patients
...Or saving all of them...Dr. Larry Nasar.
No...I disagree!! It's actually helping his patients!!
Bull 💩
Many Doctor is paid contract killers that still share a smile together with the deceased love ones
This was a very good report. Thank you, sir.
people have determined to get anything thing accomplished you just need to do it yourself. there was a solution to this problem
So glad weed works for my back pain. I was thrown out a 2 story window as a kid by my dad. I've had issues all my life and i'm 35 now. I wake up in the morning stiff and hurting and popping, then have a dab and I am able to function. But without that weed.. I'd not even be able to crawl outa bed.
Pain, is a terrible thing to be in.
Please let tell me that ur dad was saving u from a fire 🔥 .
We have legal medical Marijuana in Oklahoma.
Glad the weed helps you!
So sorry ur dad did that to u! Remember when they stated that weed would lead to heroin. They lied! Some Drs still believe the lie!
@@the1442 Thank you for providing yet another example of how one need not be right to be sure. Don't play with anything sharp, Junior. And be sure to check under the bed for monsters.
Nice job giving a comprehensive, compassionate report on this tragedy 💔💔💔
Compassionate report?
That dude can't even read properly
I know texes people really can't read wow
Yes, this is much more accurate. Excellent job.
@@GREED412RELOADEDcorrect spelling of Texas .
Not that comprehensive he did not state if the doctor blew him off or tried to help him.
So when a doctor messes up your back after surgery, you’re now labeled as a disgruntled patient! This is a wake up call to doctors. Unfortunately, they can’t wake up.
The doctor did not mess up the patient’s back.
@@Thrivinglife3835 How did you know?
Sounds like threat? I hope you're not a cowardly murderer like this nutcase. Also nobody is forcing you to see doctors, just use your healing crystals instead.
Pain will make you do things you'd never do otherwise
Do you justify what that murderer did? Or could he have done it out of hatred and anger?
THIS MAN COULDN'T TOLERATE PAIN, YET HE CHOSE TO INFLICT PAIN UPON OTHERS. HARD BREAKING!
Maybe bc he trusted that Dr. Men handle pain diff than females. They alao feel that they have to be the providers. PAIN either physical or mental causes u to go bananas. Hurt ppl hurt others. Bullies r hurting so they bully, etc. So what if he had pain meds to tolerate pain why is that wrong. Cartels r making fentanyl bc Drs wont prescribe.
make it make sense, right
Hard breaking or heartbreaking?
He was being tormented by his doctors, rather than helped as he repeatedly requested.
@@carlcushmanhybels8159 sure, blame the murder victim. Have you no shame?
This is disgusting! People need to learn they can’t always have their way, and peoples lives are not theirs to take!!! I’m soo sick and tired of this nonsense!!!
👏👏👏 that one ... I've been saying the same thing ... every petty grievance shouldn't end in a massacre ... people are way too over indulged
Chronic Pain drove him crazy! They no longer lower pain with meds bc of those who take them to get high!
👍🏿
@@spicyirwin5835 he had nothing to lose. His life was over once the unrelenting pain had no end in sight because no one can get pain meds. I can see this happening again. A lot of people are suffering. And no one cares because it isn't THEM that is suffering.
As a nurse and a patient with chronic pain, you have no idea how bad this guy was suffering. More often than not the shady side of pain control you don’t know anything about (big pharma violations and overprescribing in the past now controlled by DEA regulations, resulting in the current under- treatment of pain) drives many to suicide and now apparently homicide. Try to educate yourself before you judge people as “wanting to their way”-- it appears this man reached out to the surgeon and I would suspect that the doctor blew him off and denied any responsibility for a botched surgery. I don’t agree with the fact that he killed people but this story likely has a lot more to it than people know. Patients don’t just “shoot up” hospitals for no reason.
If this Police chief had been in charge in Uvalda I think many, many children could have been saved. His officers were well trained and courageous. A model of exceptional police training and professionalism.
My condolences to all who lost loved
ones, friends, and colleagues.
Why is it that people don't realize that it doesn't matter how capable the police are, by the time they react many people are already dead or wounded. This is the nature of the kinds of weapons these mass shooters use. They can even pierce body armor. It's so strange for the rest of the world to hear American citizens brag that their police prevented more deaths when in fact they were unable to prevent 21 deaths (or however many). You cannot subtract imagined deaths from actual deaths and feel proud of yourself! That's not how math works. Sad, so very sad.
I don't think so. The gunman in Uvalde had shot a hundred rounds, which means many of the victims likely were shot more than once. Assault rifles and ammo fire with high velocity and as it enters the body it tears everything to bits and thus vital organs are no longer functional. With so many children being killed and so small, they had to have been riddle little bodies. Likely dying instantly after being shot or very shortly thereof.
True well never know due to officers waiting nearly an hour to confront the shooter.
That would have been great. But in Uvalde they had been ordered to stand down by National feds in DC. They needed the high count.
@@danielpearson6306 They also had to abide by Biden's new school shooter rules and training, which is a stand down policy. It didn't work. The border patrol doesn't take that new training...so this is what we got. And Biden didn't even go to the border to see the death he's causing.
Those tubs of lard in Texas should forever be ashamed
My heart is sinking, I have worked in healthcare for 32 years. Only twice was I involved in incidents where a suspect was a disgruntled patient who killed professional staff. San Diego 1994 1 nurse and 1 emergency room doctor shot because the suspect blamed the ED for his family members death.
I have seen doctors and nurses drive people to suicide. They play God and act out class wars
So whats the solution here? Armed doctors and nurses? This is simply insane. How can people feel they have the right to take others lives? So sad.
You are absolutely right! This is absolutely insane.
Stop coddling b lacks
Arm our doctors!
Yup see to stop a bad guy with a gun you need a good guy with a gun
If it were up to Abbet and Cruze, They'd arm your preschoolers.
Most healthy people don’t know how bad our health system really is... pharmaceutical/insurance companies, and in some cases doctors/medical groups/hospitals themselves
Absolutely!!!
In Europe we look on in disbelief at your health care system, your lack of annual leave and mass shootings. Of course we have our own problems but these are 3 areas that just astound us.
I didn't realize what a joke it was until I had my own issues. People come out maimed and traumatized. Not to mention broke.
Knew someone who was in so much back pain from an injury that they took their own life. They had been at work the day before. Keep in mind that people in pain can do a good job of hiding it at work as no one wants to get fired!!! Too many doctors refuse to believe a patient that's in pain and refuse to prescribe meds. Some hospitals also dictate what can and won't be prescribed. The shooter was wrong in committing murder but laws need to change regarding pain meds to include Medical Marijuana.
I almost checked out because so much pain thank God I didn't go through with it
Pain is a tricky issue. You don't want to deny meds to people in pain. On the other hand, America is in the grips of a fentanyl epidemic. Pain relief vs possible addiction. There are no easy answers.
I have been in hospital 4 weeks they were giving wrong pain meds I was in pain could not handle I told them theses meds not working I was in screaming. Pain I was and still in pain iam home now this so hard it's like they wanna see use in this pain
@@markdoll3184 So sorry,just want to try help. It won't take the pain completely away,but it helps me alot,hope can help you a bit. Medications are too expensive for me,in pain everyday. I infuse bay leave, cloves,mint leave,rosemary,drop ACV,dash white sugar in extra virgin olive oil. It eases so pain can be more manageable. Take care 🙌🏼🕊️
Thabk you, couldn’t have said it better.
Tulsa Police displayed heroic bravery and great skill in responding to a active shooter emergency. This agency deserves great credit for a job well done.
blaaa blaaa blaaa.... Mass shootings are as American as apple pie.
Very well said…thank you!🙏🏼
#backtheblue
Absolutely
Are we going to say this one was a mental health issue as well?? Or are we going to look at the real issue, which is the unchecked access to guns in America.
It would be nice but it will never happen as long as Republican exist.
I dunno that guy in China stabbed 50 people to death in like 5 minutes. That's the future without guns?
This time it was physical pain
Republicans will say that he should have gone to see a psychiatrist.
How would you stop this? he had no criminal record, he had no MHI that could be tracked. He did not state his intention on social media, instead just wrote a letter. He deliberately purchased guns just to do this killing, how do you control intentions especially from the evil mind working overtime to come up with harming others. Thats why the gun control debate is made by morons(democrats) who refuse to acknowledge that there is evil in the world and that blacks can be criminals, then this is just going to get worse.
Love peace and condolences to the families and friends and everyone who has to walk into that hospital to work everyday
Pain patients deserve help not being accused of drug seeking behavior. I’ve been told to just smoke pot for my pain. Patients are treated like criminals.
I've been in daily chronic pain everyday for 7 years. Been to many many doctors. They treate like I'm a addict and laughed at me. Ligit laughed at me. Been through pt three times. Numerous MRI and scans. It took six years until I found out I needed brain surgery.
I will not go back to a pain clinic. They are horrible places. Not one of these medical staff have given me adequate pain relief. I not drink and smoke to get the energy to get up and have some sort of pain killer.
It's ridiculous and sad.
Thank McConnell in Kentucky he started all of this.
It's a human right to live pain free or as close as possible.
These docs are watching us suffer.
Legalize all medicinal plants!!!
#dontpunishpainrally
Have you not heard about the opioid epidemic? Doctors have been sued for oversubscribing. My brother had to be weaned of his and vapes weed.
Interestingly enough this pain patient became a criminal 🤔
What does that have to do with shooting multiple people?
This is true I watched it happen to my Dad. They wouldn't help him. I watched him fall several times and every other step was painful to him. He ended up dying of a Fentanyl overdose trying to self medicate his pain because the doctor wouldn't help him. Some doctors are monsters and yes I do blame them for my father's death
I hope that they do a autopsy on his back to see if the doctor did something wrong. My wife's son-in-law's father had back surgery last year and ended up worse off than before he had it. His doctor just told him he was going to have to live with it, that he must have a low tolerance to pain. No other doctor in the area would toch his back. His son drove him to another doctor 4 hours away and that doctor redid the operation only to find that the other doctor had screwed a screw into his spinal cord that was causing the pain. Yes doctors do make mistake, not all doctors correct their mistakes.
That's it. Blame the murder victim now.
Excellent point.., not justifying the shooting but I thought the same thing. I hope an objective professional does an autopsy just to see if anything what was causing the pain. Some doctors are good, but I’ve worked in a hospital and seen doctors who were not the most honest. Not saying this was the case, however, I agree 💯 with you.
@@asanta2023 "not justifying the shooting But...i'll try to justify it anyway"
@@asanta2023 in some cases the doctors purposely do it so you keep coming back to see them and pay more.
Maybe it was "doctor death" ?
Drs are so worried about addiction they now under medicate patients. Same with the antibiotic scare. We need to help these patients, not turn them away. I’m sorry for all victims.
Unfortunately, they are known to under-prescribe pain meds to Black people.
No the problem is that people go into surgeries with the mindset that they should have zero pain afterwards. Doctors give the safe amount of pain medicine. People need to realize there will be some form of pain while healing and they can’t take a shitload of pain meds
If dude was in that much pain, how did he do all this gun shopping and shooting, he should of been in the ER, doctors can’t hand out pain pills like that, he should of been at a pain clinic
you junkies ruined it for some, not most. most people just want to be high.. in this case, they had prescribed the dosage that is recommended ...
The pain clearly got to his head. It is not an excuse, but once the pain reaches that threshold, it becomes more psychological and less physical. I’m not sure how he could have found help. But he still shouldn’t have caused physical and emotional pain on others just because he was going through it.
Thee years ago I watched my best girlfriend die from stomach and liver cancer. Doctors gave her 18 months to live. Her medication for pain was so ridiculous, a junkie wouldn't even bother to take them. She was in agony and as a result, couldn't eat although she was hungry. Only at the end of her life, which was 3 short months later, and in a Hospice facility, did she receive proper pain meds. I'm sorry people O.D. and get hooked on opioids but it's unfair to the doctors, who get hassled and could loose their medical license, and the people who live in pain as a result. My friend told me she was going to start buying Heroine on the streets because of the pain. If she had done that, she may have gotten that last year of life she so desperately wanted to spend time with her only son and her granddaughter. This is no excuse for what this man did. He obviously didn't understand that the doctor's hands are tied due to the latest ridiculously strict rules re: prescription opioids.
There are other pain pills that could be subscribe for pain besides opioids. Even in the pain was in his head a placebo would have done the job as well. Sorry about your friend. Her case was different. Back problems is an elective surgery. One that most doctors suggest or recommend to their patients. I had several doctors recommended ktme after being in a car accident. They desperately tried to get me to have one However, rejected it and never went back.
@@Lioness1499 I have six herniated discs from my military service and have refused neck and back surgery. I'm in chronic pain and lost two careers. I'm not going to gamble on having any neck or back surgery unless I get to the point of near paralysis or something like that. A lot of times these doctors are just looking to make $$ when they should have been conservative. I went through all kinds of non medicated treatment and they didn't work. The doctor made over $200K though......
@Jane ... WHY are you defending doctors when your best friend was made to suffer like that ?
@@baronedipiemonte3990 So, sorry to hear about your experience. I know your story is true. Thank goodness I was able to evade the same situation. People should definitely evade any elective surgery when possible. Once they get the money the doctor doesn't give you a second thought. Hop you can find some way to ease your pain. Hoping the best for you in the future
@@baronedipiemonte3990 I think your first sentence says enough for me to know what the problem is. Unless you're also the CPA how is it you know exactly how much the surgeons take home cut was?
Someone got tired of being told to suffer from pain by the doctor. It was expected to happen sooner or later.
The doctor saw him twice in five days after post op. Please explain what else, in your professional opinion, he was supposed to do?
@@joliekae some people talk about what could the doctor do give pain meds. I have suffered with back pain for a number of years because of the doctors telling people to suffer because they say it leads to addiction. I never was addicted because I did my meds the way my doctor prescribe them and never went through withdrawals. Didn't understand what they where talking about.
My deepest condolences for the victims and the families who lost Loved ones. 😢Thank you, "Lester Holt." RIP 🌹
*It's nice to see this nice gentleman got his issue resolved in a speedy conclusion.What town or city you recon the media is off to now?*
Mass shootings are as American as apple pie.
Very tragic. My condolences to the victims' families. 🌹🙏
I SAT IN MY RECLINER 2 NIGHTS AGO, CLENCHING THE ARMS THAT I LEFT FINGERPRINTS TO KEEP FROM OFFING MYSELF FROM ALL THE PAIN.
I've been reading the comments here and a few mentioned a supplement called mitragyna speciosa(aka kratom) which they claim is very effective with pain management
I am a Vietnam Vet with two purple hearts. My L/arm being the worst, and while in surgery in Japan, a nurse came to my bedside to inform me that my arm injury was so bad the doctors advised it was necessary to amputate the arm. I wigged out and told them not to remove my arm and as long as it looked like an arm in the sleeve let it alone. When I was recovering from surgery, the first thing I remember was reaching over to feel if my arm was intact, and thankfully it was. It took several months of treatment but I still have my arm at age 84. Later on in life I went into Law Enforcement and while responding to a hot call with lights and siren, I was struck broadside by a car driven by a lady that didn't see a need to stop for me and went around a long line of stopped cars. This was deemed a workers comp injury, and for many months to follow I went through countless surgeries for my neck injury. Back then I was treated with Oxycontin, the non addictive pain medication , yeah right. That medication went on forever, until the workers comp decided no more treatment, based upon what a doctor stated in his report saying the patients pain is all in his head. My CV column is fused and I can barely bend my neck and I am in never ending pain. The doctor with the comment was admitted for a neck injury . While I was in for an appointment a nurse I had gotten to know, informed me a doctor was now a patient is a non stop complainer and demands more and more pain meds. She winked at me and said, oh yes we are waiting for an approval for the pain meds(smile). He will get his pain meds when it's time, after all he knows now just how it feels. I didn't ask who the DR. is. When I went to the VA they treated my arm and leg pain, but not with Oxy, and got me off that. My time is running out and my wife cares for me non stop. The VA here is just wonderful
I hope you read my response to this thread. Pancreatitis is a pain triggered by injury and surgery, like no other. Cuss words and pain pills can’t explain the extreme pain from the acute pancreatic and adrenal crisis from the healing process. I was a clinical RN worked all through hospital snd post op open heart unit, sad situation. Thank you for your service 💜
💜💜
Bless you 🙏
The VA is "wonderful" bull 💩
After we secure all schools with single doors and armed officers, we can move on and do the same for theaters, shopping centers, grocery stores, medical buildings, churches, ballparks, and other locations covered by the Republican/NRA plan. Or we can vote like our lives depend upon it in hopes we get to live long enough to wear Depends.
So many would rather let all that happen before changing gun laws...it's never gonna stop
And revert back to samurai swords, spears, knives, sticks, nanchuckas, Karate, kungfu, etc... Nothing changes...
Giving more control to an already tyrannical government is absolute insanity.
Malls also & flea markets & dont forget Jan 6 with attempted coup!
@@skippy4653 🤣 delusional
The gunman was in so much pain he was able to go pawn shopping,gun shopping,dr shopping....TBH what about a psychotic break caused from the medication? very sad prayers to everyone...
That sounds more likely. I don't know too many people who are able to go shopping a couple days after back surgery.
We'll never know what kind of internal and external torment this guy was experiencing that would make him do that.. But as they say, "but for the grace of God go I.."
People can resolve to do a lot of things when they think their pain is untreatable. The surgery was supposed to treat the pain. The surgeon got his large cheque and likely decided that he had done his duty.
They get their limited amt & take more than tiny amt prescribed to get out of bed. I do that to go to the grocery store. Then take massive Bendryl & stay in bed & dont move the next day to make up for pills I took to get food so I imagine he had enough. I know 5 who killed themselves but they labeled it an OD instead of suicide. When they got their script they just took it all.
@Don
Maybe you should read about this doctor before making such an asinine comment. From accounts he was a kind and thorough doctors. His patients say he ran late because he spent time with his patients. You and do many others are defending an evil murderer. It’s disgusting.
He probably couldn't get needed pain pills. You have to beg for just a few pain pills at a time and it's a pain to do all the refills, then they treat you like you're a criminal. Always one extreme to another.
i've seen it correspond to age pretty heavily- if you're 50 years old, you get benefit of the doubt, prescribed a reasonable quantity that you need
if you're 25-40, you are presumed suspect, must be looking for a high, no chance you have pain.
it's a bad time to have pain in America. There is no help, just endless Physical Therapy and Advil recommendations.
@@austinh1028 Physical therapy helped me but if it hadn't I would eventually have begged for pain medication or I would've ended myself. I refused to take any pain meds (not even Advil or Tylenol) but I wasn't as bad off as many people are.
Bedridden & my DL has expired so now I cant get my pain meds until i go to DMV.
Well like I’ve said before my condolences to everyone involved……
no one cares
Mass shootings are as American as apple pie.
Nothing original I’ve heard this hundreds times
We keep saying it.
@@Arcwol Clearly you care enough to comment
The murderer thought a botched surgery hurt him, so his solution was to destroy his life and others. Evil man!
@@RichBuddy to be fair, that’s mostly because of the issues with opiate and benzo use in America
This man was a hero and we need more like him
@@justin-2473that the hospitals get people hooked on mostly .
The teen who just murdered those innocent folks in buffalo New York thought people of colour in your country were taking over and hated such folks. I bet you think he is just mentally ill and not evil. Your country is filled with demonic, gun loving demons. No God, No peace. Know God, know peace.
@@justin-2473 To be fair, the doctors are the ones that started the opiate and benzo issues by taking money to throw them at everyone so no matter what angle you look at it from they're in the wrong
Never have surgery on your back. My grandma did at 87, after surgery it was if her soul had been taken. The back is very delicate. Whelp my grandma went from not being able to cook, drive, or move like before. She wasn’t her self anymore. Whelp she did 6 months after having surgery.
This is what is happening to me right now...shame on back surgeons ! I now have pulmonary cement embolism in both lungs, my son has to do most everything for me. Iam in worse shape now then before surgery. Lookin for a good lawyer, sue for neglect. Now I have pain in my lungs and heart everytime a walk. I signed a form knowing the risk but I did not sign a form for neglect!!!
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@@deborahwhit9583 I know certain humans who survived neck surgery is aus and in CA, I guess you have to know certain humans to come out unscathed..
He is making sure he gives an exact timeline. I feel like he is really throwing shade at the Ulvalde Tx,cops and they deserve it
In fairness, the Tulsa police didn't have to confront a live shooter
@@KG10toTH5 I thought they shot him, I could be getting the story mixed up. They are happening so often now I can’t even keep up. To be honest, I no longer listen or read all the details for my own sanity 😔
So very sad & totally awful😭😭😭😭 ❤❤❤ God help us a!l😪😭😱
That soon after surgery. All those medications can really mess a person up. He wasn’t in his right mind. Not to excuse what he did, but it’s a traumatic event.
He didnt have pain meds was the prob. Back pain is so bad that it can drive u to murder. I know 5 who killed themselves bc they cut back pain meds.
@@spicyirwin5835 I know people too. It takes a lot of time to recover. I can’t believe he was up and around already. With the holiday weekend, I bet no one was available.
Thousands have surgery every day and don’t do this.
@@channahnoyb4803 that’s true.
This doesn't justify what this guy did but the medical system is a bad disaster right now. I don't know what's going on with doctors but they are also killing people by not taking care of their patients. My friend had a headache for years and her doctor kept telling her you're just stressed. No scans no nothing. When I visited her I told her to get a different doctor a lot of times because they're like this for women. Her headache got bad and she went into an ER on a Saturday and was dead the next Tuesday from a brain tumor. Is that not murder? She didn't get to meet her grandchildren or see her children get married. I have family members going through this right now, they're so sick they lost their jobs. They have different doctors and different issues but the doctors don't even try to get them diagnosed. In fact they're being abused instead of the doctors taking it seriously even when there's all kinds of bad test results. And lawyers won't even take a case unless the malpractice is easy to prove and the person died.
Omg, this is almost exactly what happened to my sister! She was labeled an addict so they didn’t look until it was too late!
Back pain is no joke, I never had surgery after I split one of my vertebra in half. Was out of commission for weeks just to do basic tasks.
It still sucks, but I refuse surgery and I refuse opiates. Luckily I can walk around and manage it at this point.
I have chronic back pain and my wife has Harrington rods spanning cervical to lower thoracic spine so needless to say her back pain is tremendous but neither of us has thought about killing someone else because of it.
@@kmlckd Same, I don't understand going on a shooting streak to only commit suicide, regardless of some lame excuse.
As bad as it sounds, if you are going to go do mass murder, instead just off yourself.
Best yet, go get some mental health treatment, even though it costs a ton in the USA.
Gotta get the weapons out of the mix regardless.
Prayers for the families of the ones killed.
His back must have really hurt. I'm surprised there haven't been more shootings like this. We need to end the war on drugs and make opiates available over the counter again.
🙄🙄🙄🙄 Start in your neighborhood first.
@@boxesbinslidsllc you might think differently if you get spine Arthritis and have to deal with the American healthcare system... There is a reason the rate of depression and suicide is so high with people with chronic back pain...
Who cares if a chronic pain sufferer isnt in pain. They took an oath!
@@austinh1028 labeling a suicide an OD is just wrong! Sure thats how they killed themselves but effects stats.
@@austinh1028 I don't take away people's pain tolerance levels. But the solution for my pain would not be to harm others. Do you know sometimes the things that show up in our bodies, is a result of anger, unforgiveness, and bitterness. People search outwardly for a,solution when sometimes its matters concerning the heart. Anger is a big source that many don't realize shows up in the body.
There we go again. How can one person have 3 gun at once??🤔
My brother in law has over 10 . And he's a former church pastor.
NOT TOO BRIGHT, ARE YOU?
@@mikejohnson2173Let's give guns to religious people, like that has ever been a good thing throughout history.
@@mikejohnson2173 ask him if he was packing heat when he was preaching.
This is what happens when you only treat people enough to make them leave and come back for more money. The doctor and hospital was bleeding him dry while he was in immense pain.
Your proof?? What a sad commentary!
Something is fishy here, entering a building of that nature with a rifle should not be that easy
Take one step back, getting a gun like that should be virtually impossible, then you don't need security, hardened doors and potential slaughter avoided.
Our entire system is dying before eyes.
💸WHEN AMERICANS GET A HOSPITAL BILL FOR OVER $15,000 WHAT DO YOU EXPECT IN A COUNTRY THAT COLLECTS TAX AND DOESN'T PROVIDE SINGLE PAYER MEDICAL SERVICES🇺🇲👈
American act as if America is the most prosperous country in the world. Why can't America afford free health care?
Socialized medicine is the answer, but wait 😳
@@fu9793 For shooting up schools, Shopping malls, hospitals, subways etc.
@@TT-qo9dv That is communism... (or is it socialism?)... better dead than red. So there you go.
No one forced him to make that bill, that was his choice. Second the story had nothing to do with a hospital bill. So if we go with your view 15,000 split fours ways their lives were only worth 3,750 each. Trifling
My deepest condolences to all the families of the victims.
May God watch over us daily.
Gun's bless America the land of the spree.
Mass shootings are as American as apple pie.
This is what happens when you essentially ban pain meds.
No joke. Obviously most people don't pick up weapons but pain isn't a joke
Amazing respond time by law enforcement.
And yet it still wasn't quick enough to prevent 3 murders. People are content these days to say "Well he could have killed more". Ban weapons of mass destruction!
Great time response, but unfortunately the shooter fully accomplished his goal, as he killed the man he went after.
Thank you for your service and God bless you and your lovely wife.❤️✝️🙏🏽
Get rid of the guns.
@Mike Hawk I agree with you. It's not the guns. It's the mental health or other problems with the shooters. I think Nate had a gut reaction and cares about people. But my humble opinion is Nate doesn't realize this is a false solution. If people didnt3have guns, some will use knives, bombs, their our cars, etc as weapons. Furthermore. In a country as diverse as the USA how would 400 plus million guns be encouraged to be gotten rid of anyway? That's more guns that citizens. Anyway I don't think Nate thought that through.
Better yet, move to another country.
Its not the guns, its the people behind them. Yes due to mental instability. Again!!! Another case of this. I think that gun shops need to ask basic question before giving paperwork out for the nics check. And before they can purchase. If the gun shop owner or worker sees any disturbance in that individual. Then they shouldnt sell them anything.
Let’s give more people access to mental healthcare. Never mind. Republicans won’t allow that.
@@mikejohnson2173 OK Mike, but what is the case scenario for possibly owning an AR-15 with high-capacity magazines? Those are weapons of mass destruction. I agree that it's too late in the march of history for most Americans to give up their guns but that's just a sad commentary on the state of America today. You're all going to H*** as your worship at the altar of guns.
Regardless of the quarrel, it’s no excuse to take a life.
*It's a blessing this gentleman is no longer suffering*
Pain is real
Pain can make you absolutely insanely crazy!! This is just a very very sad outcome for ALL involved. Terrible turn of events.
Great presser by the chief.
I wonder how many patients on that floor after this went down, self checked out.
R.I.P.. Amen
Ty, for the reading of the names.
This is a problem, and the doctors say they CANNOT give you pain meds (true story). Mainly because we have elected officials sticking their fingers in doctors business. I’m surprised it’s taken this long.
Amen🙏✌️🌻🦋
The problem in this situation was elected officials have allowed ready access to guns, not that elected officials pore over physicians. Usually the surgeons don't handle opiate management after the first few days or weeks of surgery.
@@KG10toTH5 even the medias wording is biased “he was mad about the surgery”, he was mad about the aftercare. And the aftercare is managed by elected numbnuts. Go ahead and get you some pain and find out that docs just sit there and say so?
I mean it seems reasonable to have a waiting period to buy guns . If they are irrational maybe waiting a certain time period would give them time to cool off and think reasonably ?
nope, 2nd Amendment justifies it all and we should follow it religiously. /sarcasm
We need to open up mental asylums again not more jails
Thanks to Reagan for closure of many mental health institutions.
Amen🙏✌️
@@armaellis6358 Alzheimers was his karma yet really Nancy's. He forgot! Forgetting what a toilet is scares me! Reagan cost tax payers so much more by closing mental hospitals, clogged the courts & when they self medicate they hurt others. Lives stolen PRICELESS. Did my thesis decades ago on the cost boy has it gone up! Brain is part of the body. Trump wanted to take Social Security away. Why take care of the elderly also who paid into it. Of course he wanted to bomb Mex, shoot Mexs, Faucis head on WH fence then came Pence & Pelosi. WE MUST VOTE TO REMAIN A DEMOCRACY! Not an autocracy! If Ukraine can fight we can VOTE. Im in so much pain but I WILL ALWAYS VOTE & FACT CHK. Think I made an error on a Senator but police backed her but my gut says diff. Too funny some dont take a min to vote yet Im second guessing & beating myself up. Body lang classes on how to spot liars is hard to do when voting.
I don’t know if this is true or not with this case. But I’ve seen many of my friends go and have surgery and get nothing for pain but Tylenol. Surgeries with orthopedic surgeons getting no pain management. Doctors are so afraid of getting sued for addiction they do not give pain meds after surgery anymore. I can’t imagine having major surgery and offering no pain meds. I had back surgery years ago and I was given hundreds of pain pills. It went from too much pain medicine to zero pain medicine. I couldn’t imagine being in so much agony not being able to take anything but a Tylenol for days on days on days complaining of extreme pain. I feel bad that you could see the guy was desperate but no one would help him. He was just asking for pain relief but because you can’t charge for that he wasn’t given anything.
Maybe he went crazy after being in agony for so long. What he did wasn’t right just make that clear. My prayers to the family were affected.
People think the guy maybe should’ve gone on the street and bought some opioids. That’s Russian roulette because fentanyl is almost in all of them which can cause immediate overdose.
They used to give pain meds all the time for surgery before 2016 for decades and very few people who had addiction type personality would become addicted. He could’ve been sent to pain management and given medicine.
Amazing job officers...thank you for all you do!
It feels like we are at 2016/2017 all over again
Nothing is logical when you are in so much pain.
I’ve seen people in extreme, unrelenting pain and they didn’t go on a murder spree. It’s disgusting how many unstable people are freely roaming and defending this guy, like they would do it too. Maybe your guns and any other weapons should be confiscated.
@@channahnoyb4803 maybe you shouldn't assume I'm defending the guy. Maybe you shouldn't assume I'm unstable. Maybe you shouldn't judge innocent people you have no way of knowing guilty. I said pain makes it so you don't think straight, in other words he was outta his mind. I SAID YOU CANT THINK STRAIGHT IN ALL THAT PAIN.
AND YOUR CHOICE OF WHAT POLITICAL PARTY WARSHIP, IS WRONG TOO.
So if this is wrong for you, an unusual day you wouldn't normally go around sounding off at something like my statement without more context, go back to bed, take a nap, get up on the other side!
And just to clarify
Retrumplicans are the only ones who own guns.
Excellent report.
As a medical tech reaching out to a person after care. I understand their pain. This could have been avoided.
Yes, it could but sometimes doctors just move on to the next patient. The patient are just numbers.
It could've been avoided if the shooter decided to just shoot himself instead of others. Coward murderer.
Sue the surgeon
Victims who witnessed these traumatic massacres, does not mean they are not serious injured in several ways. It would be nice if law enforcement would stop minimizing such trauma. I get it they're saying the person is still alive, that does not mean they are not for life traumatically injured psychologically emotionally and physically from having been a witness to such horrific crimes. That looks like nothing more than damage control to me.
Yeah they want to talk about soldiers having PTSD from the war, but these people can experience the same thing from the horrible things they saw
The police don't have anything to hide here; the perpetrator even killed himself.
Hey! Little webmaster, thanks for giving me commercials only rarely interrupted by the news.
On one hand, you have doctors that swear they can't prescibe anything because they could lose their license. On the other, you have government officials that say they don't mean for the mandate to ban opioid. Yet, at the end, these doctors rather not prescribe them at all, instead of risking losing their license. They forced the only place to get pain medication is at pain management, but with the overwhelming number of people doing the same thing, most are no longer accepting new patients. Then you have those, like me, who live in a rural area where, there are no pain management doctors, only family physicians.
I lost most of my life on that roundabout and will never recover from the PTSD of being tortured
USA is such a wackadoodle society - gun mad - no universal healthcare
Prayers for the family's 🙏🏿
Why don't you pray to your god that he stop them.... nothing fails like prayers
Pray also that AR-15's are banned, along with high-capacity magazines.
@@bipslone8880 maybe God is living it up to free will and refuses to intervene until we accept that gun laws need to be changed by us not him.
@@yolita1498 Maybe God is just a delusion
So sad this happened God bless.
It's sad!
No background check..no wait..no nothing!!!!!
Thank, Republicans, for that! is crazy right? when I was a teenager, I wanted a gun I had to wait until 21 and a lot of background check back in the late 80's I just can't believe how easy is to "legally" buy a weapon now... everything just for the GUN MAKERS TO MAKE MORE MONEY!! Republicans and weapon makers are a Mafia
Freedom is scary
Be aware of what you are saying.
Where did it say no background check? If you buy a gun from a FFL dealer you will always have a background check.
He did background check. Waiting period would just gave him more planning time and had it happen week or so later. Or he’d got impatient and made a bomb from the manny common available stuff with no background checks
An outlier in that it wasn't domestic violence, family violence, or generalized misogyny this time
It's pretty awful that these things are so normalized that that was my first thought
There was a DV case in Michigan this past weekend: a man shot & killed his wife & 3 young children. The motive can be anything these days, from simple arguments to domestic violence to hate/ WS to road rage or disgruntled patients like in this case. Everything has to be 'solved' by shooting. 😪🤦
@@Galaxie08 Interesting study years ago-a few years after Columbine-trying to figure out what makes people think. Male college students were tasked to carry a bunch of stuff down a hallway. The researchers has some a-hole bang into him in the hallway. Some men smirked or looked annoyed, flipped the a-hole the bird, and picked up the stuff and continued on. Other men took it as a personal affront and got confrontational. They repeated it with a male and female carrying things and the a-hole ran into the female. The flip 'em off men and immediately helped the female pick up the stuff. The confrontational ones got even more confrontational. Then got around to helping pick up the stuff and completing the task they were given.
One of the most interesting and enlightening gun violence studies I ever read
Ego, chivalry, access to guns...Bushmasters' "Man Card"
God bless each one of you on both sides
Hate has no color or boundaries. Treat people the way you want to be treated.
Eye for an eye? Spine for a spine?
Doctors don’t believe black people can feel pain. A nurse refused to give me pain medication after a c-section with my twins in January. A white doctor wrote my pain medication schedule on the white board. I told her that’s why I specifically requested to no surgery because I can’t handle the painful recovery. The nurse still wouldn’t assist me with the horrible pain. I couldn’t walk or anything. A black, male doctor entered my room. I stated, “She thinks we can’t feel pain.”. He responded, “I know that we can feel pain.”. He gave me some pain medication. I can’t deal.
The doctor murdered was black.
It's not just a "black" issue.
So Horrifying.......we have to take these guns away from people like this. and make it impossible for them to get their hands on this....these kinds of shootings don't happen in any other so-called "civilized" country. And sending sympathy to the loved ones of these dear people.
Praying 🙏
Pain is not an excuse to murder people. Period.
A nutter with a gun? In America? No way!
If I was American I'd seriously start looking at immigrating elsewhere. What a joke.
We r trust me.. but no one will have us cuz we're too violent
@@AeltgenXIV It’s borderline hilarious to me the idea that some guy so easily just buy an assault rifle and a pistol (the pistol from a pawn shop of all places). I’m 30 and have never held let alone fired anything in my entire life. Why do citizens need access to weapons of war?
I'll stay here, thanks. Go hide in your safe space.
@@n00bspanker smh try reading the bill of rights, it says it right in it, "necessary to the security of a free State." Are you naive enough to think you'd talk a Putin out of power? Assault rifle is a PR term with no definition btw
This is crazy not safe anywhere
One “stupid RN Practitioner” laughed at me when I was in *a lot* of back pain in Tucson Az. She sent me to St Mary’s hospital where she assured me they weregonna give me pain meds. When I got there, they gave me ibuprofen! I felt humilliated. I felt they treated me like a drug addict making things up in order to get high on drugs. They charged me like $500.00 per the visit for nothing, plus the other medical bill I got after seeing that stupid RN Practitioner.
So, is legal to buy guns and illegal to prescribe meds to people who genuinly needs them???
Shame on the USA!!!
It seems odd that a surgeon would not see his patient that soon after a surgery. There are so many assumptions. Surgeons can give you painkillers for 30 days. But regardless, maybe painkillers were not easing his pain. I have no idea why that happened. But I live in the real world and to all of the people who are accusatory to him because of assumptions think about this. Physicians who deal with back pain among others have a DEA number and not the patient. It is because of the abuse of prescriptions made by physicians that got doctors walk in the line because the DEA is watching them. Now doctors assume because you say you're in pain that you must be some junkie trying to get them in trouble with the drug enforcement agency? There was a time before the opioid crisis where doctors prescribed painkillers when people were in serious pain and we didn't get addicted. It is the reoccurring monthly prescriptions that did this to America and now everybody suffers needlessly out of respect for those who swear to do no harm.
And Oklahoma has jailed at least two physicians for prescribing pain medications recently it may have been in association with overdoses.
Yeah, and the DEA has no freakn business doing what it is doing in the medical profession. DEA has overridden your right to access pain killers because their bureaucracy and interpretations of drug abuse.
According to news reports the Doctor saw him twice and after each visit the shooter bought a gun.
@@shihtzusrule9115 maybe they killed themselves. I know of 5 who ODed on purpose yet they didnt list suicide as their death. Maybe families wanted life ins.
The doctor saw the guy twice within five days of surgery. What more do you want? For the doctor to drop all other patients? Screw anyone sympathizing with the shooter.
What a wonderful country!
Welcome to 'MERICA! LOL!
Well at least your response time is very good the office as well trained to watch we are hearing good job
Patient gunman was a victim of Patient neglect a common treatment for the poor. Somebody might have a little more concern the next time. F the poor guy They thought. They got paid to practice on him. He got a little practice back. Bystanders should have protected their selves.
I at the age of 48 had a radical double mascetomy was discharged with pain meds but for the next several months I was I annoyed 😠 pain at my 30 day post op appointment I asked for more pain meds,, they said NO,,I was a single parent an still had to work but needed to take at least a half of pill every 6-12 hours.. I was SO uncomfortable in my own skin,, for heavens sake I just had major amputation!!! They left me like this an refused to Pain manage ME! How cruel! I have no history of drug abuse. If I’d known they were going to be like this I would of not gone thru the surgery.
Probably could've retained a lawyer to sue the doctor for less than the cost of the guns. Such needless violence.
No they made laws that docs and staff can't be sued for inadequate services. People like me and chronic pain every single day we cannot take it in most of them do commit suicide or other acts. This is what the government has done to us everyone can thank Mitch McConnell from Kentucky he's the one that started this.
Doctors face no consequences anymore. So this is what you get.
You Lie. Doctors and staff can be sued, loose their license to practice medicine. They can even
be jailed if criminal intent, fraud or such is involved.
@@dave8599 not here In Michigan
@@jacksaloman9513 Such a stupid comment. Dr aren't miracle workers, and you go into thr surgery knowing thr potential outcomes. He was just a selfish jerk; too bad he included other people in his last selfish act.
OMG. I cant believe this.
My question still the same, "why this kind of thing keep happening?"
As i said why they didnt get him back in the hospital keep him and see why he was hurting
Because there is usually a healing time after surgery, and because surgeons don't tend to give narcotics for more than a few days after surgery is over.
They won't do that...I have lung and heart pain, taking the VA almost one month to see a pulmonologist. Cement within the Pulmonary veins from kyphoplastys. Hopefully I won't die before that.