PLAYING ESTES FEELS EMPTY NOW
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Estes has the highest healing among all supports, but Floryn overshadows him and all other supports. The reason for that is Floryn's healing abilities can be casted on a safe distance. Heck, her ultimate disregards how far her allies are. While Estes on the other hand needs to be close to his allies to fully utilize his healing potential.
Don't get me wrong though, He's great when he is teamed up with heroes that doesn't require much mobility. 🙆♂️🙆♂️
also another important note is that Flory's ultimate makes all allies immune to anti heal for 2 secs and that's literally why she's so good because it makes building anti heal kinda useless when it's time for team fights.
Estes can be easily countered by carmilla, as long ss she's banned, he has a higher chance to survive
@@JohnArden4444carmilla + luo yi and it's done for estes
@@ZiiRasu bro is fucked if there's a AOE hero waiting for him
@@Bahog_Bilat69someone who's said estes better than floryn is coping. She's basically soraka and kusa. The different between them just floryn cant clear minion wave and carry team but they can. Floryn skill 1 need target also its just single target.
Agree tbh he is so underwhelming right now. With so much burst in this meta your heals just cant keep up
we need more tanky heroes to rise up for supports to rise up but moontoon however, they buffing tanks damage instead of their tankiness. How many times I have to tell the developers that we need more tankiness not more damage. Everyone and their mother are dealing high damage nowdays
I think Moonton needs to start reworking supports like they did to Rafa in order for them to actually rise
Maybe give them a playmaking skill like they did to Mathilda? Or a skill that has global presence like Floryn and Angela?
Who was responsible for removing most tanks in the exp lane?
@@Tl.2255True. Gatot had spell vamp and an amped damage in his enhanced basic attacks but not like this explosive damage and Life-steal.
The Devs are out of their minds.
Whatever you say, but this skin of estes is🔥🔥🔥🔥
Nah i agree with you 🔥🔥
Agreed
Estes needs a revamp I wish they make his ultimate Enhance his second skill too to immobilize enemies
They could also give him extra movement speed when his passive is active
0:20 estes can heal vexana's lord😮
Estes can heal summons with his ult
I always stick to my Estes as a Tanky Fighter tho. Only problem is that most of the time Roams are sticking to Gold Lane to babysit feeding marksman which always guarantee loses.
As estes main, its not anti heal but aoe heroes that really F your team up. Also, its best to use estes with tanky hero team.
Btw, from experience, once your team get ahead and get used to your healing (aka let them dive towers and get out safe) once that happen, get ready to be targeted by 5 enemy + being abandoned by your team 🤣.
the xp lane should tanky, estes is very rarely gat banned now, which mean he is balance support healer now, in this crazy burst damage era.
I've been saying this for YEARS mate the anti-heal effect should be 35%, not 50% bruh it should be a way to reduce the power of sustain heroes, not just straight up negate them
Sincerely, a Ruby Main
Nerf Akai
I'd say buffing Akai makes sense since HIS PIN DOWNTIME ON MID-LATE GAME IS TOO LONG
And even if the Lifebane effect gets nerfed, ESTES STILL NEED A DAMN UBE-FOCUSED LINEUP TO WORK
If they do reduce the anti heal then "certain" metas will come back and then all hell breaks loose
It should have reduced effect to supports, or they should introduce some sort of item for healers to combat anti heal
Yeah. Antiheal from items is just too much. It makes sense if it's a hero's ability but it's just an item
That's why they created flask of oasis, oracle and support emblem is there as well bruh. Initially, anti-heal was -50% and for a very long time. Dealing with estes is a pain with trash team in solos. I rarely won when there is estes on the enemy and rarely loses when in mine as long as the estes "rotates" and not baby sit a single hero. 50% healing reduction is just right.
In this META, playmaking or jockey healing (hence the reason why Angela is currently at Conditional tier) requirement for roamers becomes the reason why heroes like Estes and Rafa (although solid against slow-reliant heroes like Yve and Gloo as a cheeze pick) became underused. Also due to the fact that Estes requires a UBE-focused lineup to actually work
No UBE-focused lineup = no hope for Estes
Heck, even Floryn, Jaypee and Milez special, overshadows those two too because global heal
Who is jaypee and Milez special
What's an UBE lineup?
@ Commonly composed of 2 tanky heroes, 2 backline DMG dealers and Estes
@alemansprototypeguy u didnt explain the jaypee and milez special what are those bruh
@@blacktear-bd3jp Technically main heroes that gave major impact to the game
Milez mains supports
Jaypee is sometimes an support, fighter, assassin, MM or a tank main considering his past records from ArkAngel to Liquid
you can still play healer as long you have the right heroes on your team well if you pick estes but all of your team mate is so squishy that can be easily burst by enemy he will be useless
That is not fair… Whi tank can always be picked and support not?
@ Playmaking now mandatory for roamers since assassins are rampant unless they need Angela for healing and extra mobility supplement or Mathilda as a mobile playmaker
with the amount of brust damage hero's in the rise I really dont see healer meta coming anytime soon
Even vexanas lord is happy with Estes heal
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What if:
- Estes Passive got reworked
- His ult now removes control effects on him (like Wanwan 2nd)
that's a good start.
THATS WHAT I WAS THINKINGGG
Put this person on the rework team 👆
Although floryn has soraka ult, estes is more similar to soraka due to his low mobility, lower healing range, and low hp to make up for the high healing output. The problem is Soraka can heal regardless of range, so even if she’s too far she can still buy time for her teammates by ulting. Whereas Estes needs to be somewhat nearby to help. This also makes it more likely for him to get caught in cc or take aoe damage. To counteract this, I would just make Estes ult uninterruptible by cc during the cast time. I think it’s fair that skilled players should be able to buffer cc so that his ult still goes off even if he gets hit by the cc as he pressed it before he got stunned.
they should make more support item like league had, if they want to copy better commit with it
estes with his superior white skin ❤️
Every time he uses his ult he throws sick rave party
It needed to be a "fast" game to dominate with Estes - meaning the game ends in 10-12 minutes and your team wins. When late game comes, it's hard to dominate even if you have meta heroes on your team as the enemy team gets their items and their damage is enough to kill your team as well. And no, Anti Heal items isn't the issue here as well. Estes can't tank that much especially if they have AoE damage, tons of CC skills and heroes that can "one shot kill" a hero. Which is why Estes won't do much in SoloQ, unless your teammates how to utilize him really well.
Estes couldn't heal himself with 1st skill when there's a nearby team at range even he's hp is lower than the whole team.
Just aim his heal away from teammates
No, there's a targeting priority settings and it affects Estes' heal too
"Devil my cry, hororo chan"
Estes just doesnt exist in match anymore even in the ban list
Bro meanwhile my server peeps really clueless enough to ban him when estes gets countered by tigreal 🤦🤦🤦
@@Tl.2255 Or Luo Yi. Or Atlas. Or Odette. Or any hero that thrives when enemies are close together. He can be annoying sure, but he’s really not THAT big of a threat when Joy, Lukas and Zhuxin exist.
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Maybe need to add stun effect to his passive
I wish they make it so that Estes' excess heal turns to shield 1.5 times the excess heal
He's really good with new mage. ZHUXIN can be tankier and estes just slows them and keeps you alive
Rafaela meta is coming.
Just because you can't use every hero without using brain cells doesn't mean it's not good. Estes requires a 5 man lobby to make it work, not efficient in solo q. He's very solid in 5 man team if they build around estes and the estes has to know how to time properly
I highly agree
Try using his passive during ult. It recharges fast... be as aggressive as u can while his Ult is active
if your team doesn't have burst damage heroes and enemy estes is a nightmare for you.
Respect for alu to be exp laner almost no one want alu to be exp laner. For me its alu flicker for exp
I hate this situation, support is the most outshined role, and healer are even more… I'm sick of this… (main Rafaela)
And this is effect mino to as he is the only tank that treats like healer supports and left rot in bottom of tank roam as setter his ability is not enough not like 2019-2022 when his rage still there ... I hate rage it over Bering and unlike now day lock ult hero with energy bar under there HP bar (i will say lukas and phovius because they are the new one that got this system) but the difference are at those time mino rage will decrease mean while this hero they only move up not down even if there ult is lock and behind there own gimmick it still better than mino rage that decrease... That system actually doesn't need to be gone but just the decrease just erase and like phovius just keep it there if you not use ult it just fine system untill there and stop stupid nerf when he is already and most of time is at the bottom....
Honestly floryn over shadowed estes. Shes easer to play. She doesn't need to constantly fallow core or mm. Movement speed isn't really an issue since she could literally be at the fountain and heal teammates. And plus with two holy crystals in late game can easily heal beyond half health of a tank/hard feel fighter not to mention anti heal is completely useless against her
While estes consume too much mana has a very slow movement speed just okay heal (if semi tank which further reduced healing) and really really really needs a good teammates order not to be targeted
It's sad seeing so much potential Lost to a single item from the enemy team's tank...
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Bro how come NONE of them were buying any anti-lifesteal????
They should buff oracle make it stronger to counter anti-heal items and its healing effect and receive to stay longer in the team fight
When will be support time to shine? (Healer meta was never true… they always got outshined by tanks), I want my RAFA TO SHINE!
I didn't know his ult reset his 1st skill
Since Assasins Meta is Back And Utility is now Nerf we rather see a pickoff or set roam, Since Supports Often Rely on Teamates Survivability Like Support are best paired with utility tanks who can tanked damaged and also gives damage. But now since assassin meta is back team often prefers engagers and pickoffs to set fight for the assassins and to burst them down so that's why Support Era is Over once Utility Era is Over.
I do think estes passive is useless just like rafa like why put dmg passive on a healer/support heroes? It's probably one of the reasons they are not used
Estes would be even more niche if he has less way of dealing damage or slow, the passive is very useful. In fact one of Estes' roles is poke.
The passive is one of the things he has aside from heal, and as we know it his heal isn't always effective.
During early game his poking abilities are great for someone that is able to heal others a lot, mid-late game the slow can be crucial to catch or prevent someone escaping.
I'll go with Rafa instead. To speed up the process😂
This can be easily fixed if they just added a small magic damage if an enemy touch the link.
thats unnecessary, rather add some kind of cc whether it be slow or immobilise
Maybe CC, like displacement + stun on 2nd skill works better since playmaking is a must for roamers in the current META since assassins are rampant lately
Estes already has a slow with his second skill.
The last thing estes need is more cc, that literally punishes you for trying to lock him and making it more frustrating to deal with.
Adding a small damage to the link will allow him to utilize glowing wand and ice queen wand.
0:19 realize vexana eternal guard ulti can heal 😅😅😅
Maybe buff his ult like when active it will reduce the anti heal from 50% to 35%
Bruh I didn't know tapping the 1st skill auto aims to the ally with the lowest hp I always be aimin it
I hope they bring back Healer Meta like before. I'm sick of today's Meta
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I like this
hes actually good, but once an enemy bought an antiheal item, he becomes so squishy 😔😔💔
for me Estes is the worst support in the current meta, why would u pick him when Floryn exist?
I would rather have Rafaela than Estes in my Team, since the changes on anti-heal every one builds now, plus to many burst and AoE heroes in this meta
HEAR ME OUT:
0.5 sec of cc immunity whenever estes uses his ultimate 😁
Not really useful, 0.5s cc immunity after ult wouldn't do anything, the trouble of cc is before he cast ult because after he has ult no matter if he is stunned or what he's already doing and getting heals
U know what the feeling to be hunt by enemy while playing estes,mathilda,baxia, kufra,khaled,hilda,rafaela,phoveus..everybody want to killing u😂
the only support that is thriving in this meta is mathilda, rest is just very mid
Honestly though, floryn lowkey OP.
Imagine having your heal available globally, and isn't affected by anti-heal.
Also, with flask of the oasis, floryn becomes difficult to burst down by midgame,
and with fleeting time, ult heal becomes spammable by lategame, can keep sieging and never going back to base for everyone.
Plus the option of buffing your teammate with +60 damage right at the start btw
You mean when WAS healing meta. Healers were top picks when oasis flask was first introduced and tank junglers were all the rage, because healers were the key to outlive the tanks in teamfights.
Now with assassin back in the meta, healers return to their old state of being inferior to tanks because a single good set can turn the whole tide of battle, and they can protect the team carry better
Everytime there's an estes, expect the team to stick together like dumb fucks.. In high rank today, it's easily countered by a single dominance and an aoe skills / cc. 🤷
Don’t even try to bring tank meta back
I HATE THAT META!😡😡🤮🤮
They should buff his second skill, maybe a stun for 0.2 seconds and slow so he can delete skills like the ultimate of pharsa ecc….
I wanted Estes's skin from that chest but got Franco's skin instead 🥲 I think I should have taken gold lane chest atleast chances were higher on getting Layla or hanabi skin as I don't have any Layla skin and only basic hanabi skin
I dont know if ur using mage emblem or support emblem but thats a lot of cdr items for a cdr build, i recommend removing rhe cdr boots instead change it to either the def or sp.def one