A mentor once told me. " it's very simple, they don't want us to eat at their restaurants or play on their golf courses or live in their neighborhoods"
@@bryanbrett8943 What's preventing you from opening a business? You can't start a side hustle? People are doing it every day. Tell me why everyone eles can, and you can't?
You think they care if you have the money to move into their neighborhood? Not really. What you think they keep a list of names?? That's what you are implying.
@@ClarenceJBoddicker1987 You cannot even fathom how deeply screwed you are, if you never break a few rules to get ahead like your employers are happy to do whenever they‘re able to. Content cotton picker. 😂
All of my employers either stole from me (was included in lots of those typical mass lawsuits), did coke in the office, lied to everyone, and/or were abusive. Honestly couldn't give a flying fart if employees decided to hide truths to protect themselves.
Sounds like these CEOs are deathly afraid that people will work multiple jobs, basically accelerating their road to retirement and financial freedom and not even NEED to get up and work for ANYONE anymore. And you know we just can't have a bunch of stress-free, healthy, relaxed, happy and financially stable humans running amuck with a bunch of free time 🙄
I have a secret for you... your employer doesn't really care about "having leverage" over you. What they care about is getting an honest day's work out of an honest day's pay from you. I don't know why people seem to think that they are indispensable to an employer, especially an employer that is a large corporation. At some point, you'll realize that the larger a company is the less significant you are to them because they'll always be able to find a replacement for you.
@@2020Max1 I disagree. If you talk about leaving and starting your own business, many companies would try to give you the boot before you can successfully transition as like you said, they will need to replace you. They don’t want to be left high and dry either which can happen if an employee has options. Either a business of their own or another potential job that can help them when negotiating pay and bidding on other jobs.
Construction job I did if I finished too quickly they just gave me more work of which I could still handle. As I was there to learn. The supervisor who was above me was intimidated because upper management specifically called for me to do these jobs it threatened his position which caused me to become a target. I was already dealing with BS from other companies hating us because we were not a union lift safety harness was stolen some tools as well. I eventually said fuck it and ghosted because I didn't feel appreciated and I was tired of stuff being stolen not having that harness made my job 10 times harder as it is because Id have to borrow one from a co worker which meant waiting awhile since everyone else has work to do. Those harnesses are around 300 dollars guys that's a quarter of a paycheck I hope whoever stole it broke a leg at some point. Thieves deserve their hands be smashed with a freaken hammer. But this whole working two jobs being theft...what a load of bullshit I feel like that CEO doesn't even know what theft is.
@DarwinAward Still waiting on some corp to come up with the brilliant plan to make you hourly until you make overtime, then you get auto-shifted to salaried.
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Yeah. Once a manager told me i have the most important job because we are the ones in contact with the customers. I told him if that is true then why are we getting the lowest pay if we are THAT IMPORTANT. He looked at me and had nothing to say.
@@ForgottenKnight1 actually he didn't. It seemed at the time there was an investigation from the head office for fraud and they found out he was fraudulent with work hours. So he got fired. 😌
That's why I miss the company I last worked at. I was in a car crash and am unable to work currently. But while I was there I had 150 hours of vacation 2 weeks sick time 3 days personal days 2 floater days And 3 wellness days and I was paid very well because of how important I was to them As a non cdl driver at the time I was making $26 psr hour Yes I got over time But I also had a lot of support such as hey if you want to take the next day off you can or we can lighten your day to go home early. If my wife or kids were sick they said bye go home and don't call us tomorrow I got so lucky with my last job I didn't want to leave. You ate very correct though the majority don't want to pay what you are worth and it can take a while to find out if they will It's good to know you're a good reliable worker That's great Then the company should show it as well by incentives Like raises Bonuses Time off Support All those can make a great difference in how long you can get good people to stay Like I said I got very lucky I hope you do as well with your employer in the future
People don’t get a second job because they just love working. It’s usually because their 1st job doesn’t pay enough for them to pay their bills. If you don’t want your employees working second jobs, pay a living wage
No, its most likely, because they realized that for the most part oversight of large development teams is severely lacking, and you could probably commit a fraction of your time without penalty from your manager. So they gamed the system, by getting hired at two places, while the minimum amount of work to not get fired. This is dishonest. They are being paid for their time not their productivity. If they wanted to do this, and they are very productive workers, then they should have had a discussion with both companies about doing free-lance or contractual work which would result in productivity based pay not time based pay.
@@Serfdomftw i hate when people say “doing the minimal amount of work as to not get fired” i bet you those people do exactly what they are hired to do… an offer letter is a contract between me and my employer, i do whats requested and they pay me for that service. Plumbers dont tackle extra issues free of charge. Mechanics dont fix the engine knocking when your transmission is broken without further compensation. Too many idiots think that theyre daddy that can tell employees to do their chores but also make up new responsibilities on the spot. Like nah if its not in my contract kick rocks, and if I’m efficient, not my fault I’m good at my craft, thats why you’re paying me
@@Serfdomftw not sure where you work where people can just not do their jobs but bare minimum to me sounds like efficiency. Calling me clueless because your first comment can be interpreted in multiple ways, especially when employers always complain about people not going the extra mile on linkedin is hilarious to me and closer to being clueless 😂 I’ve never heard employers complain about people not doing all their duties, its always complaining about not using that extra time to do things that arent listed in your duties/responsibilities.
Or sell to millions of clients. By their own reasoning, they should sell to 1 and only 1 client, no more. Otherwise would be disloyalty to that client.
There's nothing wrong with that though....the fact they provided so many jobs in the first place automatically makes them many, many times better than you in every measurable metric. People will literally have a dream of one day attaining a certain level of success, and scoff and the ones that are already there, at the same time. Same types of people that think if they were alive in 1928 Germany, that THEY would have stopped him...when it's obvious they would have been making the salute.
Yes it is exactly the dynamics of an abusive relationship, a narcissistic personality takes anything but total unquestioning obedience to them as a personal attack
Boomers: "These lazy millennials, they don't wanna work two jobs!" Also Boomers: "You're working two jobs!? You're fired!" You literally can't effing win.
A person empowering themselves with more income = stealing. A company overworking salaried, exempt employees for 60+ hours per week = "That's just business. Gotta please the client!"
So basically they are saying, “I’m allowed to have multiple sources of income because I’m so smart and wonderful! You are my lowly employee, so I demand strict loyalty. You will only earn what I choose to give you. I own you!”
@@simonebernacchia5724 rofl actually if you have to have two jobs, you're playing the game wrong. That's why you're poor and will always reeeeee at the rich. But MUH Equality! Lol.
CEO: "You're a thief for working two jobs. Devote all of your life to me!" Me: "You're the thief if you underpay someone to the point where they are forced to work another job just to be able to afford basic necessities and barely keep up with the cost of living."
sounds just like the government and their cronies - every time the little citizens find out a way to climb up the financial ladder and get one step closer to become members of the same golf club the wealthy elite go to, a financial crush or some new regulation comes up and kick everybody 10 steps down while adding another 50 steps to the same ladder
If you work that job on company time then yes you are stealing. This was two simultaneous jobs you cant do that. You cant work one job while being paid for your time by another. As a result they performed horribly at both jobs.
@@cstuartdc except they werent productive .did you bother reading anything of the memo outside his selective highlights? i suggest pausing and reading using your brains instead of your ears
My ex-employer told me she is upset with me for telling her what I think about her business and advertising strategy (I am an e-commerce advisor and digital marketer) and she said: "I am not upset about your feelings and thoughts. I am upset that you are sharing them with me. It's like when my husband tells me he doesn't like my hair. Why would you say that? I don't want to hear that." Not only that she treated our business relationship as romantic, but she also didn't want any negative feedback and didn't let me do my job. Why did you hire an advisor if you don't want an honest opinion -which also includes negative feedback? Do you want to progress and look good (as a reference to her hair looking bad) or do you want to do whatever you want be cheered for it no matter how stupid it is and fail? Some people simply don't have the mind space for anything that doesn't make them look good and fit their illusion regardless of how much that illusion differs from reality - no matter the cost. Her business is failing bad and I am glad I left.
@@youtubesucks1499 Unacceptable? According to whom? To what party's interest and benefit? Yeah....the company, not the talent. Do lawyers have to divulge other clients? Do Doctors have to divulge other patients? Do tradesman have to divulge other customers? If there is conflict of interest, then there is a conflict of interest, and no business relationship shall be established.
He invested in them, there's a difference - they just happen to be private cos. If you create your own stock portfolio of 10-12 stocks, do you consider yourself working 12 jobs lmao.
The employer doesn't see your life as belonging to you. They see that they are buying you. If there were not laws in place, they would have you working 24/7
I work in a grocery store overnight stocking since losing a management job during covid. I recently told my boss I was getting a second job because 12.65 doesn't pay the bills. He told me I couldn't be full time if I had a second job because that meant they couldn't "rely" on me. So I asked for a raise and then was told "we just don't have room for that right now". So basically they don't pay enough and know it but they would rather lose me then pay me a bit more.
Yes, that's what happens when there are jobs that have a high supply of workers in them. Part of this issue is immigration policy (if you're in the lower states) as low paying jobs have artificially high supplies of untrained, unskilled work. This means that people are paid less and are more disposable.
Give you a .10 raise and expect you to appreciate the raise, I think they should keep it, if that's all they can afford then they need to keep that money.
This happened once. I was working at McDonald's and Dairy Queen on two different shifts. When the DQ boss asked me if I could switch shifts, i told him about my other job, and he fired me right there
Yeah I think some of them are just afraid of the poor but its not really stealing when you look at it because your putting in double the work. I'm not sure how some people can work two jobs though unless one of the schedules is consistent. A lot of 9-5s actually have broken schedules. One day you might work 5am-2pm the next day its 11-8pm then the rest of the week you will be 2-10 accept on Sunday when they want you to be there at 4am. You really got to know people to work two jobs because to be honest the only way I could work two is if I did one job at home or I was the owner of a businesses were I wrote my own schedule.
Never tell your employer you don't have enough work. When I was a lot younger and very Naïve I would go to my bosses whenever I had sped through my work because it was usually brainless tasks that anyone with half a brain could game-ify and have done before the end of the day, usually well before noon. I was never rewarded for being faster than anybody else, I was never given praise, I was just given more and more work since apparently I could handle it or I was let go because once they saw how I operated, they just told other people how to do my job and then they no longer needed me so yeah, never tell your employer you need more work as from my experience, it never works out how you intend. Companies don't seem to care about hard work or loyalty in 2022 so do what is best for you.
Leave out the key details of HOW you do your job. In a previous data analytics job I was using Wolfram Mathematica to generate the reports. After that contract ended, I received a number of panicked emails asking how I had been producing all that work. I told them "Excel Macros", and "good luck".
Well, if company is trying to get the max amount of income from you, why you would not try to do the same? Like the conversation between mike and harvey in suits "You put your interests above mine. Im just putting mine next to yours"
Yeah, if anything inflate the time it takes to do a task so as to manage expectations. The last thing you want is for them to come through and expect you to perform tasks at a given rate when you *literally can't do that*. It's much better to do a work slow down, and set a lower bar while still accomplishing all of your work. The kicker is it pushes the company to hire more people. Like, this just in y'all, but companies don't hire people out of the goodness of their heart. They're for profit operations. If you do more work, then you eliminate the number of possible jobs at a company.
They want to guilt you into thinking this is “stealing” because at the end of the day they want you to work for them 100% and make them money. They expect employees to have the same level of motivation and energy as the CEO/Owner. At the end of the day, the employer signed up for the subscription-employee’s work, employees provide the service-working, and the employer pays. Idk why jobs make it more than that, I don’t owe you anything outside of my normal work hours.
I never understood the no two job policy. You, as a human, should be free to do what you like as long as you can fulfill the minimum requirements for each job. I was questioned about it once. I was working as an engineer during the day and loaded trucks for a shipping company on night shift to pay off my credit card debt more quickly. I think it all comes down to control. That is why companies hate workers doing work from home. The companies perceive that they are losing control.
it's a risk management issue - "I know that my devs are working less than 8 hours a day and I am fine with that, but I want to make sure that if something goes wrong and we need a fast response they will be there to do their duties and not finishing some task for a side hustle."
@@volodiafyk Except, if your employee is fulfilling all their duties, what risk are you hedging that way? They have already done what you've told them, so there is nothing else for them to do anyway
I went into a temp agency for some extra cash when I was starting my business. they paid very little but it was enough to pay the bills while I got my business off the ground over the next year. I nearly signed the contract until I read "we will repossess all wages if you ever call off a day without excuse". I inquired and they said it meant nothing because I wouldn't call off... I explained I have a business I'm building and only doing their job for the extra cash and that I would call off in a heart beat if my business became more lucrative (which it did months later). They immediately became enraged and called me ungrateful and said I was making a mistake. I smiled back and said "looks like your true colors are showing. glad I dodged the bullet on this one" and walked out. I heard the lady yelling at her CO worker saying she'd never met someone like me before. I hope she learned something that day.
Guys, never sign noncompete agreements or NVAs. All you are doing is setting yourself up to get sued by your former employer, when you leave. As long as it doesn't hurt your primary job, work two jobs.
Companies are already doing checks to make sure you left your previous job before you start a new one. And explicitly putting that on job offers, paperwork.
Kris, that is one of the reasons people leave industries they have been in for decades. They didn't realize the non compete they signed didn't have an expiration date!
Around here, it's law that if a non-compete causes you to be unable to find a new place of employment, then your old employer owes you your full salary, even without you working there, until the non-compete binds you. If your old employer tries to sue you for going to another company, then they could literally screw themselves over. And the most that the company could demand of you is the amount of extra compensation that they owe you for signing the non-compete. Now, granted, I live in Europe, but still.
@@Maelstromme It wasn't. And I even managed to get some partying in as well. To be fair, I did not work 70 hours EVERY week, and that 3 job thing was only for about 8 months. I dropped back to a more reasonable 50 hours of work a week after that.
Common morals aren't really applicable in capitalist relations. Everyone is basically doing what they can get away with. His tirade raises the question: "If I do my absolute best in your job, will you promise to never fire me?". This douche thinks he has the right to preach like he is Trotsky, but his socialist ethics only work in one direction.
@@mulattoassassin Also, I think if you work one well paying job and get a wage reduction you can collect unemployment. But, if you are working more than one job to afford rent or support a family or live a middle class lifestyle and lose one of those jobs, then you can't collect unemployment on that job until you get another. That is something we need to look into.
@@simonebernacchia5724 Well, yes, they see it as buying the exclusive rights to your labor or time for 9 hours a day. They then want to get every drop of blood out of you that they can and the more you work they don't pay you more. This might not be an issue if there was a defined limit on the project or work like an actor has on a movie. Sure, you give them everything you got to make that movie, but there are very clear union standards, pay rates, and an employment contract, all of which we don't have. And that is project based work with gaps in work with no stigma etc. etc.
People been calling it out, it's just nice to have someone to rally behind. No one has yet been strong enough to call out and stand against the BS. Hopefully we get more influential people to push this needle and put the people that quote, "I pay the market price" for jobs on blast and change the pay for everyone and all jobs for the better.
@@justsomeguy6336 A small influence is still a great influence. At least someone has the balls to speak out, instead of most who hide and take what's given to them with no fight at all in them.
I worked for the state of Missrouri as a fuel device inspector a while ago. We worked 4 ten hour shifts Monday-Thursday. I was thinking about picking up a zero turn mower to cut grass on Fridays and the occasional Saturday for extra money. My boss was like "Oh yeah we have a few guys who do something like that." He then talked to me about all the things other guys do to make money on the side. I learned how to make some hardwood furniture. I can't imagine people getting mad about someone else doing well. If you finish the tasks assigned to you for the week, see you Monday. That should be the mentality.
Yep, this is the reason I'm not overemployed. You still have to effectively work two jobs, doesn't matter if its 40hrs or 80hrs, the mental load is the same. It's very impressive to me that people can actually do that for long periods of time.
@@Nerobyrne Sometimes they are paid adequately BUT the adequate pay does not cut in your area for all the cost of living, especially urban areas like Los Angeles
I'm so in support of quiet quitting because it's seriously just part of the rules of playing this game we call work. If the bosses and companies want to use leverage for more work you can't be mad when workers do the same. I find this whole movement both infuriating and fascinating at the lack of self awareness these companies response.
I just recently witnessed the amount of leverage a person with two jobs can have. The higher ups wanted to bring (force) the rest of my team back to the office despite them working perfectly fine from home the past 2 years. One of them works part time for this company (15-20 years) while also working remotely for another job. My direct boss argued with the higher ups that they could just quit if forced back. Lo and behold, said person doesn't have to come into the office :p
When you are essential to a business and have another job or verified other options in the industry you get to do whatever tf you want as long as you produce results lol.
That person must have been worth keeping. So many times people who don’t want to come back can be replaced. The better you are at your job the more you can write your own rules. I am a Millennial who has been working from home 15 years and have made it non negotiable.
@@clutchboi4038 The essential part is 100% true. I work in a shop and can do almost everything there.. Other guys try to do just 1 thing and not learn much else. when work slows down and Boss needs to send A few guys home. I volunteer to go but he won't send me home, he says I need you Here, the other guys are on the chopping block. 🤣
You know, the funny part is when he referenced being in two meetings for two different companies. Let's be honest, those meetings don't need to happen. I read an article where one worker had 4 full time jobs and rotated between three business meetings at the same time. A lot of companies use meetings as attendance, not their real function.
Lol that's awesome, hope that dude piled up some savings I tried to find the story but ended up with a lot of "why it's unethical to work more than 2 full time jobs" articles lol.
@@MatthewEaton thanks! Very interesting read. I've felt the same throughout my life, that most jobs are just too easy and I could do 1-3 at once if dedicated. 70+ hours a week is wild to work though, not sure I could do that long term. Gotta say I'm very interested in this wkf stuff now... Wonder if I can pick up a relatively easy part time wkf job for extra cash...
I was once brought in for an interview at Costco because the manager saw on my application that I had two jobs. Literally same day I submitted it, he called and was like "You work two jobs?", and then shedualed me for an interview. I didnt make the cut, but I felt like he was impressed that I had two jobs as a young person, and saw it as working hard and being dedicated. Now having two jobs is stealing I guess apparently...literally people will sit and think of anything to have a problem with, I dont know why Im surprised XD
I am a CEO of a software company. I encourage all my employees to go and get a second job. As soon as you deliver to me certain things by the end of 2 weeks (we negotiate what's going to be delivered). When I talk to my employees I always ask how they are doing on a second job. If anything needs to be adjusted becase this particular week is crazy for them. The only requirement for employees- they have to bring value and profit to me. During hiring process i tell everyone that my goal is to make company profitable. And your goal should be making living and developing your skills. Our goals are different. They should be different. They are different. This is working incredibly well and I feel so bad for CEO stucked in the past who cannot understand the world has changed.
Wow, what company do you run? What if both companies _need_ some engineer for a big push? What if the other company had an emergency over the weekend and your engineer is now exhausted? This seems very naïve to me...
@@ericomfg Yeah, it's not very realistic. Usually if someone is able to successfully work a 2nd full-time job. Its because they are so under-utilized in their first full-time job they can work the 2nd full-time job basically un-noticed. The only way I see this working is if this company allowed this job to be #2 priority from the employees 2nd job. Because I don't know of many companies that would hire someone full-time and then be a lesser priority to another job or project. It kinda defeats the purpose of employing them full-time. Its clear even this CEO draws the line at being #2, so why would they expect another company to be #2 ?
I work a full time job, and I also contract on the side. My contract work is done on weekends (only requires roughly 4-6 hours a week to maintain/modify old RPG code). During my work week, my FTJ gets 100% of my attention, and I've gotten nothing but glowing reviews, and my contract employer has been very pleased with my performance. It can be done, but requires immense discipline. Not everyone can do it.
I'm slow to respond to my emails and teams messages, because I don't watch my inbox all the time, and actually execute my work. The expectation that I drop doing something immediately to respond to another asinine email and lost track of where I was, and have to start over again is ridiculous.
Management never understands this because they actually do NOT do anything except watch their email and Teams and bother people because they have nothing else to do. Like my manager always sitting and watching his emails and IMs just waiting and waiting for something new to come in to respond to. They are an overpaid admin assistant to themselves.
@@riseabove3082 💯. Most businesses could let go of a significant number of their managers and they would still run perfectly well. I respect the hardworking cleaners way more than the overpaid, egotistical managers who sit around barely doing anything.
I worked for a boss like that once. I worked two 40hr jobs because neither one paid very much. My main job threatened to fire me when I took a week off to cover a shift for a guy on my second job. Like what? I have vacation time, you can't say no to me taking vacation time.
someone should tell that CEO that He is the thief for stealing his employees time and not compensating enough for it, therefore creating the necessity of two jobs.
It’s rich when CEOs have multiple businesses and companies that they are running and operating. You can be a CEO at one company and simultaneously you are operating investments like real estate, portfolios with millions of dollars where they can double their money. This is rich.
Depends on the job. If two jobs are paying you to be available for the exact same amount of time, then you're stealing. It's akin to airline companies selling the same seat twice because people don't show up.
@@tctopcat1981 That's incorrect. It all depends on what your employer permits or how you're paid for your work. If you're being paid an hourly wage (ie, for your time to be available to work), you cannot morally sell that same time to someone else. It's only moral if your employer permits you to do so. If you're working piecemeal, in general, you can do whatever the crap you want as long as you meet the quota established by your employer. It's not really hard. Not sure why this needs to be explained to you.
@@Rundvelt I will rephrase that so you understand. If you are working on an hourly rate you should not take any breaks within those hours or you are stealing....by your logic.
A friend of mine who is very successful and wealthy gave me some advice: always be working on your own business on the side. . It is not easy to do when you are working 12 hour days.
I agree with you 100%. As long as the employment contract does not forbid it, your time is your time and you should be able to work for two different employers, part time or full time.
Companies love when "hustle culture" is exploitable in employee's mindset but when it's for personal use it's called criminal. These talking head CEO's are out of touch and trying to work an angle.
The 1950's style of working at one job for 50 years until you retire is over! Most people will have 2 jobs and most most likely need it. This "CEO" is crazy!
I cant imagine simping for your multi-millionaire boss or multi-billion dollar company? It must be some some kind of effective influence to convince people to adhere to some sort of loyalty code to a company that would let you go and not skip a beat
I was working at McDonald's and taco Bell / pizza hut as a kid in summer.. they tried this crap at McDonald's....I said match the salary that I would be missing if I quit the other guys when I said that they left me the hell alone!
I mean, working 2 jobs simultaneously and not showing up to meetings, following through with work promised is dickish but definitely not more than people that are just slacking on their only job, which I'm pretty sure this CEO knows plenty of.
Stealing: to steal another's property ( private, intellectual, work). having two three or more jobs is NOT stealing but not compensating correctly for someones work IS STEALING. I know professors who are experts at job accumulation. one even has 250 JOBS! ( most of them are board member jobs where you have to just show up once or twice a month or is just on a "need to" basis). What IS stealing is expecting people to do extra hours and not getting compensated for the extra hours put in. I know a guy in LA that worked 2 jobs to make ends meet. 9-5 and then from 1800-2 am. He did what was required and stipulated by the contracts.
bro the so called "giants" in Indian IT industry are also quite stubborn and are firing employees who are doing 2 jobs and everyone knows that these giants don't pay enough for which employees are forced to take 2 jobs.
I have a friend who completes his days work in 2 hours and then plays video games the rest of the time... Nice gig if you can swing it (he works a government job) To be clear - he does all the work expected of him, so no foul.
@@BlackRain_ oh he is always learning new skills. He's a bit of a braniac. He's more well read than me and he's half my age. Honestly that's probably part of the reason he gets his work done so fast.
@@justinwhite2725 Video games are for children, brah. He could surely be doing something a lot more constructive. He's just coasting... surfing the time away.
I just walked away from a job in local government, in which my boss was a neurotic, two-faced spaz and the city manager was paranoid and distrusting of his own staff for myriad reasons. Meanwhile, that city manager worked in at least one contract role outside of the office, and was only in the office an average of three days a week. Then he wondered why the turnover was skyrocketing by the time I left... 😂 Oh, and the gem, staff were always called "family." The only thing scary for me is that I have no new job lined up at this time.
I left my funeral home career as it was starting to become a dead-end job. Took a 2 year sabbatical with some FU I aint paying taxes income on the side. Currently there are more job openings than people willing to fill them.
@@MichielDeSnuyter Weirdly, while it's true that there's more job listings than people willing to fill them, I've encountered a ton of hiring managers seeking unicorns. They don't want a real person to fill the position, who needs a fair wage or worse, might require training. They want a Stafford-Smiler sporting the body of a 20 year old and the experience of a 40 year old to say "yes Master" for no money and be happily worked to death. Since that person doesn't exist the position stays "open" and the problem remains. 🤦♀️ What's wrong with hiring managers these days?
I would love to have one job. I have to work a full time job and squeeze in as many side hustles as I can make time for and it’s still not enough to support my family
I'm not going to shame you, get what you can, but as a disabled veteran in a sea of veterans getting "slashed and burned" find something to fall back on. The safety nets always get yanked.
Wow, those that work hard and working two jobs get punished...that explained why slackers always get rewarded. Another reason to never go above and beyond
I work two jobs. Both my bosses are aware and my second boss works around my primary job's schedule. Being up front and not agreeing to noncompetes is the key. Shrug EDIT: Both my jobs have meetings with no cameras, we have them but for some of our rural team members, bandwidth is an issue so as a curtesy, we keep the cameras off. My wife doesn't sign up for benefits because mine are better, even with the spouse premium. While I have two jobs, I do not fit any of those criteria he mentioned.
I have two jobs and my boss likes the idea or simply doesn't care as long as I do my work for them. I'm a security guard from 7am to 7pm, Thursday through Monday. I snuck in my other job as tech support and customer service, then work as usual on Tuesday and Wednesday. This CEO is crazy. Overworking isn't for everyone but as a CEO, at least me, I would be proud of the effort and hard work each day.
I am all for having 2 salaried jobs as long as you can handle both. I’m working with a BSA who randomly misses meetings, including the daily standup (I’m the PO). He doesn’t reply to emails unless you remind him 3 times, and he seems generally disconnected. All of his deliverables are late too. He’s an anchor on my pod right now, and I think he’s working 2 jobs. He is the example that drives me crazy because he obviously can’t handle both. I still think all the executives are being hyperbolic about this, and hypocritical, but if someone is not meeting expectations let them go. If they’re managing both, who cares?
Yep, I have one of those too, he misses meetings, he's showing offline in zoom for hours, then one of his kids always seems to have a problem they have to be picked up from school, the have taken to the doctor etc etc. Its one excuse after another. He's falling behind on his tasks creating a backlog, After a while you just know he working more than one job, and he's not handling it well.
The second "job" could also be drugs. I'm constantly dumbfounded by my coworkers' behavior, until I remember "Oh yeah, everyone's on xanax, fentanyl, and/or meth."
The argument that people are stealing a job from someone else if they work two jobs is so ridiculous, just wow. For one thing, it's not stealing because nobody's entitled to that job, the employer can employ whomever they please! For another, taken to its logical extreme, that would have a horrible consequence for the CEO - labor costs would skyrocket! That is, if nobody can work more than one job, especially if they can't work multiple part-time jobs, then the supply of laborers available to meet labor demands ("jobs") will decrease significantly. This means more money is required to attract one laborer to one job relative to the competing jobs. This is literal supply and demand, the most basic form of economics, a field that CEOs are supposed to be extremely well-versed in (or so I thought). Want cheap(er) labor? Encourage people to fill multiple job openings. Want (more) expensive labor? Encourage people to only fill one job opening. That simple.
If neither job interferes with each other and your performance is within keeping for the standards set forth by both employers, then there should be no issue.
To think a company has a right to your unpaid free time is ridiculous. Unless you’re working for a competitor whereby there may be a conflict of interest, your time off is none of your employer’s business.
As long as you're not working at a competitor and schedules don't conflict then I don't see the issue. I've worked two jobs before and about to go back to two jobs because I want to buy a house soon and two will get me to that goal faster than just one. I don't know how it's stealing, especially when most people I've met at my work don't even want to work one job. So people like me that want to work two jobs make up for the lazy people who want to sit at home.
Dude you don’t have to justify working two jobs by calling everyone else lazy. That’s counterproductive. You were fine justifying that you have a goal, having two jobs help you reach that goal, and you have the means to satisfy the job requirement while holding down two jobs. But in no way shape or form does calling other people lazy do anything to help your argument except make you come out looking like an asshole. If you can call others lazy, ceo can call you out for holding down two jobs that are time synchronized. I guess this is where overemployment hits hustle culture, and this channel isn’t a fan of hustle culture at all. Yeah, I think that’s my issue, you have insecurity that is rooted in hustle culture vs just being humble about working two jobs.
some people are lazy and dont do their job. Thats a reality of work, this channel focuses a lot on the misdeeds of employers but workers often have their share of flaws too.
The problem is a lot of these cushy engineer jobs give you tons of leverage to think and try to make work fun, with the expectation that you're actually working as hard as you can. I'll ask my engineers often how they feel, how I can help make work easier, etc. and there's a ton of freedom and discretion there. If an engineer is having a slow month that is OK usually, and even expected, but it is extremely dishonest to take advantage of your employers kindness in taking it easy on you while you crank hard for some other company.
one of my previous IT contract gigs, my manager (who up to date has been the laziest/worst manager I've had), knew I had my sub contracting after hours. He asked me to quit that job or I would get fired. The new contract paid more so I quit. I continued to kill it at my new job but I kept making my manager look bad because he was known to be useless, leaving tasks untouched, never documenting anything, just over all terrible. Anyway, he was always looking for reasons to let me go and one day found out I didn't document something that he didn't specify. Once I was let go, he looks at me and says "well, you still have your sub contracting business right?" (the one he asked me to quit months prior).. Gotta love them boomers..
An old firm I worked for was salaried and the boss was a classic boomer mentality.. if your not in front of your desk your not working. I have high expectations and the company expects a minimum of 40 hours a week. Well I am glad you said that, my maximum is 40 hours a week lol
I work two jobs. In one of my work contracts it specifically states that I cannot take secondary employment. However I learnt the hard way at the start of Covid where I was stood down at last minute notice due to lockdowns (multiple) and my salary almost halved during the the first 8 months. I burned through my savings in the first six months of Covid trying to keep afloat. I got desperate and managed to score a second job working from home just to make ends meet. My hours were returned to normal two and a half years after Covid started. Too little too late. I will never allow myself to be in such a vulnerable position. Yes our govt gave packages to help struggling families and singles during Covid however it covered the bare minimum. I still had responsibilities to pay for. I manage both jobs and got promoted at my secondary job. I make it work. Never allow yourself to be vulnerable to homelessness.
I don't call it a lie when an employer does not ask a particular question. We are told "DON'T " offer up to much information and I have found employers leave a lot of holes in the one sided conversations in the past. Do the best you can with cards you have and when it isn't working for you pack up and leave.
People have had more than one job since the dawn of history… These idiots have no idea what it’s like in the real world… He can fire under performers all he wants but he can’t lecture everyone on ethics like that.
Being “overemployed” is the reason I have a house now. I will absolutely being doing it again first chance I get. It’s a big reason places are pushing for remote work to end. Like he said. Employees are figuring out things out and the games is swinging in our favor. They don’t like us having options. They really think we’re slaves
I thought they wanted us to work overtime or have 2 jobs considering that they don't pay us much anymore. Make up your minds, rich people. You're totally confusing.
Mr. Davis is operating under the delusion of the employee from the 1950s, where employees worked their ENTIRE LIVES for a single company (also when a single salary could pay for housing/food/savings/education and the like). They don't want their employees working 2 F/T jobs because then they might save enough to leave their current /company/position for something they truly enjoy. He's not saying this to take an ethical stand, he's saying it because it gives the employee financial stability and companies need their workers to be financially unstable so they can come back to work each day.
If you're gonna do it, at least think it all the way through. If you get caught there's a chance you'll lose both jobs. The one employer might tell the other when they find out. You might even get sued for the wages you earned if you put in time sheet hours for both jobs you couldn't possibly have worked simultaneously.
Most of the time, these are software engineers who are working in the tech space - Silicon Valley, Austin, LA, NY etc. Although a 'big' industry these companies HR departments and the external talent companies that service them talk to each other. Get caught once, say goodbye to your career.
I have been through some nasty layofs and if always sucks . You give the company your all and boom your out . That's why OE is good , you get to play at their game . And like your said if you are meeting deadlines and your work is done there should be no issue . It's up to the "project managers " to do their job and assign more work , but I will not ask for more
Thanks for making these videos. If we just sit silent in our corporate work culture in the US things will never change. You are 💯 in regards to CEOs and companies flipping the script when they fire you when it’s a “business decision”. It really gets under my skin when companies use words like “family” which creates this false sense of security. Please continue to call out the BS in a professional way.
I remember I was working for a startup company for a guy trying to get this big website off the ground. I was in a desperate situation at the time and needed a place to stay, and was working part time at McDonald's. The guy basically said I could work 15 hours a week for him for free rent so I moved it. This turned into me being guilted gaslit and manipulated into quitting my job at McDonald's and coming to work full time for him for 50 bucks a week plus the free rent. I was an idiot and should never have agreed but this guy was a master manipulator. I was doing EVERYTHING for this guy, graphic design, server admin, back and front end web development, the list goes on. It was never ever enough for him, and to put the cherry on top, he took me working for other people after work to make a little extra cash to be able to live as basically time that should have gone to him. I was working for another guy maybe 6 hours a week for extra cash to be able to survive and this guy had the balls to go and threaten that guy to never give me money again, they had been friends at one point. I eventually quit under his nose to go work for a real company making really good money, fuck that guy. So many people in businesses are narcissist that see their employees as their property.
A mentor once told me. " it's very simple, they don't want us to eat at their restaurants or play on their golf courses or live in their neighborhoods"
Not true. Not even close to the truth.
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@@youtubesucks1499 prove it...i don't believe you.
@@bryanbrett8943 What's preventing you from opening a business?
You can't start a side hustle? People are doing it every day.
Tell me why everyone eles can, and you can't?
You think they care if you have the money to move into their neighborhood?
Not really. What you think they keep a list of names??
That's what you are implying.
Why not lie to an employer? Employers lie to employees all the time.
You could be breaching your employment contract.
@@ClarenceJBoddicker1987 like i care about that
@@ClarenceJBoddicker1987 You cannot even fathom how deeply screwed you are, if you never break a few rules to get ahead like your employers are happy to do whenever they‘re able to. Content cotton picker. 😂
True. Employers lie to you all the time, and consider it perfectly justified, because (insert arbitrary self-beneficial reason here).
All of my employers either stole from me (was included in lots of those typical mass lawsuits), did coke in the office, lied to everyone, and/or were abusive. Honestly couldn't give a flying fart if employees decided to hide truths to protect themselves.
Sounds like these CEOs are deathly afraid that people will work multiple jobs, basically accelerating their road to retirement and financial freedom and not even NEED to get up and work for ANYONE anymore. And you know we just can't have a bunch of stress-free, healthy, relaxed, happy and financially stable humans running amuck with a bunch of free time 🙄
That's the point, they do not want you to get out of corporate slavery!
I agree with you!. They want you to be enslaved and not be financially independent and be subservient to them until you are too old.
The system is designed to keep you poor and give you just enough cash to pay your debts. Any extra money you make just gets taxed. We are debt slaves.
How can they “own” your free time? I don’t get how it’s legal to control your time and how you choose to use it when not at work.
Exactly they need to keep people cowed and enslaved
They’re just upset that they lose the leverage of threatening you that you’ll lose your job if you won’t play by their rules.
Yeah more or less what's going on.
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Exactly right..
I have a secret for you... your employer doesn't really care about "having leverage" over you. What they care about is getting an honest day's work out of an honest day's pay from you. I don't know why people seem to think that they are indispensable to an employer, especially an employer that is a large corporation. At some point, you'll realize that the larger a company is the less significant you are to them because they'll always be able to find a replacement for you.
@@2020Max1 I disagree. If you talk about leaving and starting your own business, many companies would try to give you the boot before you can successfully transition as like you said, they will need to replace you. They don’t want to be left high and dry either which can happen if an employee has options. Either a business of their own or another potential job that can help them when negotiating pay and bidding on other jobs.
They love it when they can work you more than 40 hours, they hate it if you finish all your work in less than 40 hours.
other way around
@@awk3340 not if you're salaried. You're thinking hourly employees.
Construction job I did if I finished too quickly they just gave me more work of which I could still handle. As I was there to learn. The supervisor who was above me was intimidated because upper management specifically called for me to do these jobs it threatened his position which caused me to become a target. I was already dealing with BS from other companies hating us because we were not a union lift safety harness was stolen some tools as well. I eventually said fuck it and ghosted because I didn't feel appreciated and I was tired of stuff being stolen not having that harness made my job 10 times harder as it is because Id have to borrow one from a co worker which meant waiting awhile since everyone else has work to do. Those harnesses are around 300 dollars guys that's a quarter of a paycheck I hope whoever stole it broke a leg at some point. Thieves deserve their hands be smashed with a freaken hammer. But this whole working two jobs being theft...what a load of bullshit I feel like that CEO doesn't even know what theft is.
There control freaks.
@DarwinAward Still waiting on some corp to come up with the brilliant plan to make you hourly until you make overtime, then you get auto-shifted to salaried.
Yeah. Once a manager told me i have the most important job because we are the ones in contact with the customers. I told him if that is true then why are we getting the lowest pay if we are THAT IMPORTANT.
He looked at me and had nothing to say.
You hit him in his ego. He immediately started thinking how to replace you.
😂 *Blank Stare*
You definitely fluffed his feathers
@@ForgottenKnight1 actually he didn't. It seemed at the time there was an investigation from the head office for fraud and they found out he was fraudulent with work hours. So he got fired. 😌
That's why I miss the company I last worked at.
I was in a car crash and am unable to work currently.
But while I was there I had 150 hours of vacation
2 weeks sick time
3 days personal days
2 floater days
And 3 wellness days and I was paid very well because of how important I was to them
As a non cdl driver at the time I was making $26 psr hour
Yes I got over time
But I also had a lot of support such as hey if you want to take the next day off you can or we can lighten your day to go home early.
If my wife or kids were sick they said bye go home and don't call us tomorrow
I got so lucky with my last job I didn't want to leave.
You ate very correct though the majority don't want to pay what you are worth and it can take a while to find out if they will
It's good to know you're a good reliable worker
That's great
Then the company should show it as well by incentives
Like raises
Bonuses
Time off
Support
All those can make a great difference in how long you can get good people to stay
Like I said I got very lucky
I hope you do as well with your employer in the future
People don’t get a second job because they just love working. It’s usually because their 1st job doesn’t pay enough for them to pay their bills. If you don’t want your employees working second jobs, pay a living wage
No, its most likely, because they realized that for the most part oversight of large development teams is severely lacking, and you could probably commit a fraction of your time without penalty from your manager.
So they gamed the system, by getting hired at two places, while the minimum amount of work to not get fired. This is dishonest. They are being paid for their time not their productivity.
If they wanted to do this, and they are very productive workers, then they should have had a discussion with both companies about doing free-lance or contractual work which would result in productivity based pay not time based pay.
@@Serfdomftw i hate when people say “doing the minimal amount of work as to not get fired” i bet you those people do exactly what they are hired to do… an offer letter is a contract between me and my employer, i do whats requested and they pay me for that service. Plumbers dont tackle extra issues free of charge. Mechanics dont fix the engine knocking when your transmission is broken without further compensation. Too many idiots think that theyre daddy that can tell employees to do their chores but also make up new responsibilities on the spot. Like nah if its not in my contract kick rocks, and if I’m efficient, not my fault I’m good at my craft, thats why you’re paying me
@@Serfdomftw
Your name is apt to feudal system you seem to enjoy working or rather being used and abused at
@@nashonabo821 You are absolutely clueless.
If you are efficient and doing your job properly, you are not doing the bare minimum to not get fired.
@@Serfdomftw not sure where you work where people can just not do their jobs but bare minimum to me sounds like efficiency. Calling me clueless because your first comment can be interpreted in multiple ways, especially when employers always complain about people not going the extra mile on linkedin is hilarious to me and closer to being clueless 😂 I’ve never heard employers complain about people not doing all their duties, its always complaining about not using that extra time to do things that arent listed in your duties/responsibilities.
Gotta love when corporate officials want to call "ethics" in to question😂 while they will lay people off to keep their bonuses.
For real!
Ethics is just a stupid word stupid people use and conflate with morality.
Or sell to millions of clients. By their own reasoning, they should sell to 1 and only 1 client, no more. Otherwise would be disloyalty to that client.
Yep! There is not a single honest company out there. Lie to them all. Corporate stooges are never ever your friend
There's nothing wrong with that though....the fact they provided so many jobs in the first place automatically makes them many, many times better than you in every measurable metric.
People will literally have a dream of one day attaining a certain level of success, and scoff and the ones that are already there, at the same time.
Same types of people that think if they were alive in 1928 Germany, that THEY would have stopped him...when it's obvious they would have been making the salute.
Yes it is exactly the dynamics of an abusive relationship, a narcissistic personality takes anything but total unquestioning obedience to them as a personal attack
"When people get used to preferential treatment, equal treatment seems like discrimination."
- Thomas Sowell
Boomers: "These lazy millennials, they don't wanna work two jobs!"
Also Boomers: "You're working two jobs!? You're fired!"
You literally can't effing win.
And there's your game winner...
A person empowering themselves with more income = stealing. A company overworking salaried, exempt employees for 60+ hours per week = "That's just business. Gotta please the client!"
So- you just grouped all "Boomers" together as a single group, the same way this CEO did to everyone who worked two jobs.
@@cuivre2004 That's how some of us M's roll sometimes, sad to say. It's always the fault of someone else.
@@kevinmach730 not always just when it is
So basically they are saying, “I’m allowed to have multiple sources of income because I’m so smart and wonderful! You are my lowly employee, so I demand strict loyalty. You will only earn what I choose to give you. I own you!”
Like "mere humans cannot do our own game, how dare ye!"
@@simonebernacchia5724 rofl actually if you have to have two jobs, you're playing the game wrong. That's why you're poor and will always reeeeee at the rich. But MUH Equality! Lol.
No they are not. How are so dumb?
Thats not what their saying. He literally clarified that
He said you cant be on the clock for his job and someone elses at the same time dummy.
CEO: "You're a thief for working two jobs. Devote all of your life to me!"
Me: "You're the thief if you underpay someone to the point where they are forced to work another job just to be able to afford basic necessities and barely keep up with the cost of living."
Then show up in a maid dress the day after that sort of rant
Boomer CEO: Managing 3 companies, renting 15 aparments
Millenial: It would be nice to have 2nd income
Boomer CEO: Noooo its illegal you little trash
sounds just like the government and their cronies - every time the little citizens find out a way to climb up the financial ladder and get one step closer to become members of the same golf club the wealthy elite go to, a financial crush or some new regulation comes up and kick everybody 10 steps down while adding another 50 steps to the same ladder
The world economic forum motto.
@@cstuartdc exactly
If you work that job on company time then yes you are stealing. This was two simultaneous jobs you cant do that. You cant work one job while being paid for your time by another. As a result they performed horribly at both jobs.
@@cstuartdc except they werent productive .did you bother reading anything of the memo outside his selective highlights? i suggest pausing and reading using your brains instead of your ears
Remember back in 2013 when a McDonald's CEO wrote out a whole thing about how you could survive off of minimum wage? It involved working two jobs.
The CEO should do that. He should give away everything he has and survive off of minimum wage. I bet many would like to see it.
Lol it won't make you rich
@@igordasunddas3377 why should he and why would he? only an idiot past teenage years would work for minimum wages.(for very long)
I’m pretty sure they did it again recently
@@AxelXionSora get a roommate and quit crying. Nobody owes you a living
My ex-employer told me she is upset with me for telling her what I think about her business and advertising strategy (I am an e-commerce advisor and digital marketer) and she said: "I am not upset about your feelings and thoughts. I am upset that you are sharing them with me. It's like when my husband tells me he doesn't like my hair. Why would you say that? I don't want to hear that." Not only that she treated our business relationship as romantic, but she also didn't want any negative feedback and didn't let me do my job. Why did you hire an advisor if you don't want an honest opinion -which also includes negative feedback? Do you want to progress and look good (as a reference to her hair looking bad) or do you want to do whatever you want be cheered for it no matter how stupid it is and fail? Some people simply don't have the mind space for anything that doesn't make them look good and fit their illusion regardless of how much that illusion differs from reality - no matter the cost. Her business is failing bad and I am glad I left.
Sounds like it could have been an easy job to OE at if the pay was worth it 👀
I've never heard of a man acting this way, so take that into consideration when finding a new job.
Privacy is not lying by omission. You don't owe someone all the details of your life.
You do if its asked in the interview.
It depends on whether there is a legitimate business need for the question. Thus the phrase "it's none of your business".
@@doesntmatter5319 During the interview and hiring process it should be very clear that holding a second job is unacceptable.
@@youtubesucks1499 Unacceptable? According to whom? To what party's interest and benefit? Yeah....the company, not the talent. Do lawyers have to divulge other clients? Do Doctors have to divulge other patients? Do tradesman have to divulge other customers? If there is conflict of interest, then there is a conflict of interest, and no business relationship shall be established.
@@youtubesucks1499 Your posting is unacceptable
- Complains about people working two jobs.
- Works for 12 companies.
He just wants slaves with less rights than him.
He invested in them, there's a difference - they just happen to be private cos. If you create your own stock portfolio of 10-12 stocks, do you consider yourself working 12 jobs lmao.
@@jlinsy So you mean he's a parasite?
@@jlinsy common stock give you no control over companies inner workings and if they did then yes, it would be a job.
@@jlinsy nah it’s the same because he’s is still earning money and dedicates time to working on his investment.
S.
It’s obvious that that man has never struggled a day in his life.
Clearly this CEO and many bosses think that they actually OWN you
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What’s ironic is how these Boomer CEO’s will call your generation “Entitled.”
The offices are the new plantations.
they hate it when their slaves aren't truly theirs
The employer doesn't see your life as belonging to you. They see that they are buying you. If there were not laws in place, they would have you working 24/7
I work in a grocery store overnight stocking since losing a management job during covid. I recently told my boss I was getting a second job because 12.65 doesn't pay the bills. He told me I couldn't be full time if I had a second job because that meant they couldn't "rely" on me. So I asked for a raise and then was told "we just don't have room for that right now". So basically they don't pay enough and know it but they would rather lose me then pay me a bit more.
Yes, they would rather lose you than your availability.
@@cstuartdc No, they just fire you.
They want someone that works for fulltime for them at $13/hr.
Yes, that's what happens when there are jobs that have a high supply of workers in them. Part of this issue is immigration policy (if you're in the lower states) as low paying jobs have artificially high supplies of untrained, unskilled work. This means that people are paid less and are more disposable.
Give you a .10 raise and expect you to appreciate the raise, I think they should keep it, if that's all they can afford then they need to keep that money.
This happened once. I was working at McDonald's and Dairy Queen on two different shifts. When the DQ boss asked me if I could switch shifts, i told him about my other job, and he fired me right there
"Physical Therapy."
Next time tell them you have classes online or in person. Jc for a min wage job?
Sounds about right
@Earth should have told the manger you would stay with just that company if she doubled your wage an been a smart ass 😂
@Earth 🙏 praying for you
"Hey, you're stealing someone else's job!"
"Okay, pay us enough money so we don't have to work two jobs!"
"No."
😂 Exactly!!
So performing shitty at 2 jobs instead of excelling at 1 should be acceptable?
@@naes124 who said they were performing shitty. You could excel at both. Dear god the quality of work was brought up by you.
Yeah I think some of them are just afraid of the poor but its not really stealing when you look at it because your putting in double the work. I'm not sure how some people can work two jobs though unless one of the schedules is consistent. A lot of 9-5s actually have broken schedules. One day you might work 5am-2pm the next day its 11-8pm then the rest of the week you will be 2-10 accept on Sunday when they want you to be there at 4am.
You really got to know people to work two jobs because to be honest the only way I could work two is if I did one job at home or I was the owner of a businesses were I wrote my own schedule.
@@josiahtaylor9888 If you are working 2 full time jobs.. 80 hours a week... someone is going to get the short end.
Never tell your employer you don't have enough work. When I was a lot younger and very Naïve I would go to my bosses whenever I had sped through my work because it was usually brainless tasks that anyone with half a brain could game-ify and have done before the end of the day, usually well before noon. I was never rewarded for being faster than anybody else, I was never given praise, I was just given more and more work since apparently I could handle it or I was let go because once they saw how I operated, they just told other people how to do my job and then they no longer needed me so yeah, never tell your employer you need more work as from my experience, it never works out how you intend. Companies don't seem to care about hard work or loyalty in 2022 so do what is best for you.
Leave out the key details of HOW you do your job. In a previous data analytics job I was using Wolfram Mathematica to generate the reports. After that contract ended, I received a number of panicked emails asking how I had been producing all that work. I told them "Excel Macros", and "good luck".
@@itfrombits2302 To be fair IF the company is good, then they deserve to improve from employee opinions and expertise
Well, if company is trying to get the max amount of income from you, why you would not try to do the same?
Like the conversation between mike and harvey in suits
"You put your interests above mine. Im just putting mine next to yours"
@@MikeRoss19923the company control are lives .
Yeah, if anything inflate the time it takes to do a task so as to manage expectations. The last thing you want is for them to come through and expect you to perform tasks at a given rate when you *literally can't do that*. It's much better to do a work slow down, and set a lower bar while still accomplishing all of your work. The kicker is it pushes the company to hire more people. Like, this just in y'all, but companies don't hire people out of the goodness of their heart. They're for profit operations. If you do more work, then you eliminate the number of possible jobs at a company.
They want to guilt you into thinking this is “stealing” because at the end of the day they want you to work for them 100% and make them money. They expect employees to have the same level of motivation and energy as the CEO/Owner. At the end of the day, the employer signed up for the subscription-employee’s work, employees provide the service-working, and the employer pays. Idk why jobs make it more than that, I don’t owe you anything outside of my normal work hours.
You don't even owe them that. For whatever reason or no reason at all you can work somwhere else if you please.
He's got _some nerve_ when two jobs has become the bare minimum for *survival* in this day and age!
Apparently that CEO is not paying enough if employees are needing to work 2 job’s!
Most likely employees can't manage their money
@@dieseltu1035 Lol bullshit
I am going to pretend to be surprised because a CEO doesn't want others to make as much money as they do.
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and thats the truth on it, haters gonna hate
I never understood the no two job policy. You, as a human, should be free to do what you like as long as you can fulfill the minimum requirements for each job. I was questioned about it once. I was working as an engineer during the day and loaded trucks for a shipping company on night shift to pay off my credit card debt more quickly. I think it all comes down to control. That is why companies hate workers doing work from home. The companies perceive that they are losing control.
In Switzerland it's forbidden for health reasons, but we also have a minimum wage that covers the basic cost of living.
Its control. Period
Yes, exactly, it is a CONTROL issue for them.
it's a risk management issue - "I know that my devs are working less than 8 hours a day and I am fine with that, but I want to make sure that if something goes wrong and we need a fast response they will be there to do their duties and not finishing some task for a side hustle."
@@volodiafyk Except, if your employee is fulfilling all their duties, what risk are you hedging that way? They have already done what you've told them, so there is nothing else for them to do anyway
I went into a temp agency for some extra cash when I was starting my business. they paid very little but it was enough to pay the bills while I got my business off the ground over the next year. I nearly signed the contract until I read "we will repossess all wages if you ever call off a day without excuse". I inquired and they said it meant nothing because I wouldn't call off... I explained I have a business I'm building and only doing their job for the extra cash and that I would call off in a heart beat if my business became more lucrative (which it did months later). They immediately became enraged and called me ungrateful and said I was making a mistake. I smiled back and said "looks like your true colors are showing. glad I dodged the bullet on this one" and walked out. I heard the lady yelling at her CO worker saying she'd never met someone like me before. I hope she learned something that day.
So fuckin stupid and unaware.
Ppl do this all the time
“Be my slave and only rely on me to survive.” I am so anti-CEO and pro-capitalist. You have multiple clients so let me have multiple jobs.
This is the logic that makes sense. If there are multiple clients, then employees can have multiple jobs. I thumbs-up your comment in agreement.
Guys, never sign noncompete agreements or NVAs. All you are doing is setting yourself up to get sued by your former employer, when you leave. As long as it doesn't hurt your primary job, work two jobs.
I 1000% agree.
That can take you to court decades later because they never put an expiration date on those clauses
yeah, noncompete are bs
Companies are already doing checks to make sure you left your previous job before you start a new one. And explicitly putting that on job offers, paperwork.
Kris, that is one of the reasons people leave industries they have been in for decades. They didn't realize the non compete they signed didn't have an expiration date!
Around here, it's law that if a non-compete causes you to be unable to find a new place of employment, then your old employer owes you your full salary, even without you working there, until the non-compete binds you.
If your old employer tries to sue you for going to another company, then they could literally screw themselves over.
And the most that the company could demand of you is the amount of extra compensation that they owe you for signing the non-compete.
Now, granted, I live in Europe, but still.
I worked 3 jobs, for 70 hours a week (total) while also doing 18-20 credit hours of college work during my junior and senior years at Michigan State.
I remember those days #Clemson
Hey, you do what you gotta do. That’s a motto I pretty much live by, especially since complaining doesn’t change the situation
That seems almost impossible.
@@Maelstromme It wasn't. And I even managed to get some partying in as well. To be fair, I did not work 70 hours EVERY week, and that 3 job thing was only for about 8 months. I dropped back to a more reasonable 50 hours of work a week after that.
The employer doesn't see your life as belonging to you. They see that they are buying you.
Common morals aren't really applicable in capitalist relations. Everyone is basically doing what they can get away with. His tirade raises the question: "If I do my absolute best in your job, will you promise to never fire me?". This douche thinks he has the right to preach like he is Trotsky, but his socialist ethics only work in one direction.
It’s based off of slavery they took the mind set of slavery to make huge profits and pay people peanuts.
Just RENTING me, for eight hours
@@mulattoassassin Also, I think if you work one well paying job and get a wage reduction you can collect unemployment. But, if you are working more than one job to afford rent or support a family or live a middle class lifestyle and lose one of those jobs, then you can't collect unemployment on that job until you get another. That is something we need to look into.
@@simonebernacchia5724 Well, yes, they see it as buying the exclusive rights to your labor or time for 9 hours a day. They then want to get every drop of blood out of you that they can and the more you work they don't pay you more. This might not be an issue if there was a defined limit on the project or work like an actor has on a movie. Sure, you give them everything you got to make that movie, but there are very clear union standards, pay rates, and an employment contract, all of which we don't have. And that is project based work with gaps in work with no stigma etc. etc.
So glad you call out these dudes in power on their insane words and actions. No one else has the balls to do it but you do. Thank you.
I wouldn't say that, exactly.
However, he's really good at it ^.^
It just sucks that people keep putting up with it.
People been calling it out, it's just nice to have someone to rally behind. No one has yet been strong enough to call out and stand against the BS. Hopefully we get more influential people to push this needle and put the people that quote, "I pay the market price" for jobs on blast and change the pay for everyone and all jobs for the better.
And nothing will come of it
@@justsomeguy6336 A small influence is still a great influence. At least someone has the balls to speak out, instead of most who hide and take what's given to them with no fight at all in them.
@@The__Gent Nothing will happen
Saw this post on LinkedIn and knew Joshua Fluke was going to talk about it 😂😂😂
I worked for the state of Missrouri as a fuel device inspector a while ago. We worked 4 ten hour shifts Monday-Thursday. I was thinking about picking up a zero turn mower to cut grass on Fridays and the occasional Saturday for extra money. My boss was like "Oh yeah we have a few guys who do something like that." He then talked to me about all the things other guys do to make money on the side. I learned how to make some hardwood furniture. I can't imagine people getting mad about someone else doing well. If you finish the tasks assigned to you for the week, see you Monday. That should be the mentality.
Exactly. People don’t understand that being OverEmployed isn’t a cakewalk. You still put in hard work, and you get paid for it. It’s that simple
not to mention the reason people are overemployed is usually because they're underpaid.
And whose fault is that?
Yep, this is the reason I'm not overemployed. You still have to effectively work two jobs, doesn't matter if its 40hrs or 80hrs, the mental load is the same. It's very impressive to me that people can actually do that for long periods of time.
@@Nerobyrne Sometimes they are paid adequately BUT the adequate pay does not cut in your area for all the cost of living, especially urban areas like Los Angeles
@@simonebernacchia5724 but wouldn't that mean it's not adequate?
@@Nerobyrne exactly why I don't take lead or manger positions anymore😂🤣
I'm so in support of quiet quitting because it's seriously just part of the rules of playing this game we call work. If the bosses and companies want to use leverage for more work you can't be mad when workers do the same. I find this whole movement both infuriating and fascinating at the lack of self awareness these companies response.
I just recently witnessed the amount of leverage a person with two jobs can have. The higher ups wanted to bring (force) the rest of my team back to the office despite them working perfectly fine from home the past 2 years. One of them works part time for this company (15-20 years) while also working remotely for another job. My direct boss argued with the higher ups that they could just quit if forced back.
Lo and behold, said person doesn't have to come into the office :p
that's why it is the one simple trick that all CEOs hate
When you are essential to a business and have another job or verified other options in the industry you get to do whatever tf you want as long as you produce results lol.
That person must have been worth keeping. So many times people who don’t want to come back can be replaced. The better you are at your job the more you can write your own rules. I am a Millennial who has been working from home 15 years and have made it non negotiable.
@@clutchboi4038 I just typed essentially the same thing!
@@clutchboi4038 The essential part is 100% true. I work in a shop and can do almost everything there.. Other guys try to do just 1 thing and not learn much else. when work slows down and Boss needs to send A few guys home. I volunteer to go but he won't send me home, he says I need you Here, the other guys are on the chopping block. 🤣
You know, the funny part is when he referenced being in two meetings for two different companies. Let's be honest, those meetings don't need to happen. I read an article where one worker had 4 full time jobs and rotated between three business meetings at the same time. A lot of companies use meetings as attendance, not their real function.
Lol that's awesome, hope that dude piled up some savings
I tried to find the story but ended up with a lot of "why it's unethical to work more than 2 full time jobs" articles lol.
Oh, sounds great!
In Germany you are tracked with tax agency, meaning with 2 or 3 jobs you pay so many taxes, It's not always worth
@@MiaMizuno People working two jobs still pay taxes in the US though..
@@MrIgorkap I know, I mentioned we have an extra tax that charges on top of the 60%
@@MatthewEaton thanks! Very interesting read. I've felt the same throughout my life, that most jobs are just too easy and I could do 1-3 at once if dedicated. 70+ hours a week is wild to work though, not sure I could do that long term. Gotta say I'm very interested in this wkf stuff now... Wonder if I can pick up a relatively easy part time wkf job for extra cash...
I was once brought in for an interview at Costco because the manager saw on my application that I had two jobs. Literally same day I submitted it, he called and was like "You work two jobs?", and then shedualed me for an interview. I didnt make the cut, but I felt like he was impressed that I had two jobs as a young person, and saw it as working hard and being dedicated. Now having two jobs is stealing I guess apparently...literally people will sit and think of anything to have a problem with, I dont know why Im surprised XD
I am a CEO of a software company. I encourage all my employees to go and get a second job. As soon as you deliver to me certain things by the end of 2 weeks (we negotiate what's going to be delivered). When I talk to my employees I always ask how they are doing on a second job. If anything needs to be adjusted becase this particular week is crazy for them. The only requirement for employees- they have to bring value and profit to me. During hiring process i tell everyone that my goal is to make company profitable. And your goal should be making living and developing your skills. Our goals are different. They should be different. They are different. This is working incredibly well and I feel so bad for CEO stucked in the past who cannot understand the world has changed.
Don't happen to be in Texas, do you? :-D
Wow, what company do you run? What if both companies _need_ some engineer for a big push? What if the other company had an emergency over the weekend and your engineer is now exhausted? This seems very naïve to me...
You should be the standard.
@@ericomfg Yeah, it's not very realistic.
Usually if someone is able to successfully work a 2nd full-time job. Its because they are so under-utilized in their first full-time job they can work the 2nd full-time job basically un-noticed.
The only way I see this working is if this company allowed this job to be #2 priority from the employees 2nd job.
Because I don't know of many companies that would hire someone full-time and then be a lesser priority to another job or project. It kinda defeats the purpose of employing them full-time. Its clear even this CEO draws the line at being #2, so why would they expect another company to be #2 ?
It you need FE or Fullstack Javascript dev from Europe let me know, there will be no overlap due to time difference :)
I work a full time job, and I also contract on the side. My contract work is done on weekends (only requires roughly 4-6 hours a week to maintain/modify old RPG code). During my work week, my FTJ gets 100% of my attention, and I've gotten nothing but glowing reviews, and my contract employer has been very pleased with my performance. It can be done, but requires immense discipline. Not everyone can do it.
I'm slow to respond to my emails and teams messages, because I don't watch my inbox all the time, and actually execute my work. The expectation that I drop doing something immediately to respond to another asinine email and lost track of where I was, and have to start over again is ridiculous.
but how can manager feel important if you don't constantly check email and messages and answer immediately
Can’t you be an octopus 🐙 and use all of your tentacles?
Management never understands this because they actually do NOT do anything except watch their email and Teams and bother people because they have nothing else to do. Like my manager always sitting and watching his emails and IMs just waiting and waiting for something new to come in to respond to. They are an overpaid admin assistant to themselves.
@@riseabove3082 💯. Most businesses could let go of a significant number of their managers and they would still run perfectly well. I respect the hardworking cleaners way more than the overpaid, egotistical managers who sit around barely doing anything.
I worked for a boss like that once. I worked two 40hr jobs because neither one paid very much. My main job threatened to fire me when I took a week off to cover a shift for a guy on my second job. Like what? I have vacation time, you can't say no to me taking vacation time.
Companies also hate when you use your vacation, personal days and sick time. Crazy how that works....
@@StrokaReviews why? were eligible
someone should tell that CEO that He is the thief for stealing his employees time and not compensating enough for it, therefore creating the necessity of two jobs.
It’s rich when CEOs have multiple businesses and companies that they are running and operating. You can be a CEO at one company and simultaneously you are operating investments like real estate, portfolios with millions of dollars where they can double their money. This is rich.
They're on various Boards of Directors too
@@hahamasala Yes and get stipends each year to serve on these board of directors.
Once someone sits on two boards they need to get over worrying about their employees having two jobs.
Depends on the job. If two jobs are paying you to be available for the exact same amount of time, then you're stealing. It's akin to airline companies selling the same seat twice because people don't show up.
@Rundvelt so never do any private stuff during work hours and be 100% available. Otherwise you are stealing.
@@tctopcat1981 That's incorrect. It all depends on what your employer permits or how you're paid for your work.
If you're being paid an hourly wage (ie, for your time to be available to work), you cannot morally sell that same time to someone else. It's only moral if your employer permits you to do so.
If you're working piecemeal, in general, you can do whatever the crap you want as long as you meet the quota established by your employer.
It's not really hard. Not sure why this needs to be explained to you.
@@Rundvelt I will rephrase that so you understand. If you are working on an hourly rate you should not take any breaks within those hours or you are stealing....by your logic.
@@Rundvelt In no way is that stealing lol
"You are hired as full time slave. Your soul, time, and energy is mine."
Videos like these actually make me wanna get a second job 😂
A friend of mine who is very successful and wealthy gave me some advice: always be working on your own business on the side.
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It is not easy to do when you are working 12 hour days.
Same
Yup
I agree with you 100%. As long as the employment contract does not forbid it, your time is your time and you should be able to work for two different employers, part time or full time.
Your time is YOUR time, no matter what a contract says. Prioritise yourself, with no exceptions.
Companies love when "hustle culture" is exploitable in employee's mindset but when it's for personal use it's called criminal. These talking head CEO's are out of touch and trying to work an angle.
The 1950's style of working at one job for 50 years until you retire is over!
Most people will have 2 jobs and most most likely need it. This "CEO" is crazy!
Imagine: "The company is stealing from the employees if they have more than one employee." Turnabout is fair play.
Trust me. If one employee is enough an employer would never hire a second.
I cant imagine simping for your multi-millionaire boss or multi-billion dollar company? It must be some some kind of effective influence to convince people to adhere to some sort of loyalty code to a company that would let you go and not skip a beat
I was working at McDonald's and taco Bell / pizza hut as a kid in summer.. they tried this crap at McDonald's....I said match the salary that I would be missing if I quit the other guys when I said that they left me the hell alone!
Like CEO's do not lie and deceive their employees.
Say it!
@@MsLotusBlooms right?!! ✌
The System ain’t loyal so they should mind their business
I mean, working 2 jobs simultaneously and not showing up to meetings, following through with work promised is dickish but definitely not more than people that are just slacking on their only job, which I'm pretty sure this CEO knows plenty of.
You think those sorts DON'T get fired and framed as stealing from the company?
How many meetings are a waste of time?
Stealing: to steal another's property ( private, intellectual, work). having two three or more jobs is NOT stealing but not compensating correctly for someones work IS STEALING. I know professors who are experts at job accumulation. one even has 250 JOBS! ( most of them are board member jobs where you have to just show up once or twice a month or is just on a "need to" basis). What IS stealing is expecting people to do extra hours and not getting compensated for the extra hours put in. I know a guy in LA that worked 2 jobs to make ends meet. 9-5 and then from 1800-2 am. He did what was required and stipulated by the contracts.
bro the so called "giants" in Indian IT industry are also quite stubborn and are firing employees who are doing 2 jobs and everyone knows that these giants don't pay enough for which employees are forced to take 2 jobs.
I have a friend who completes his days work in 2 hours and then plays video games the rest of the time...
Nice gig if you can swing it (he works a government job)
To be clear - he does all the work expected of him, so no foul.
I'm india also government jobs are like that
They play games n get paid a ton
But government teaching jobs are bad
In this scenario - he's just cheating himself by not using the time to learn a new skill etc.
@@BlackRain_ oh he is always learning new skills. He's a bit of a braniac. He's more well read than me and he's half my age.
Honestly that's probably part of the reason he gets his work done so fast.
@@justinwhite2725 Video games are for children, brah. He could surely be doing something a lot more constructive. He's just coasting... surfing the time away.
Oh shut up. Video games are fun. So are movies and shows.
I just walked away from a job in local government, in which my boss was a neurotic, two-faced spaz and the city manager was paranoid and distrusting of his own staff for myriad reasons. Meanwhile, that city manager worked in at least one contract role outside of the office, and was only in the office an average of three days a week. Then he wondered why the turnover was skyrocketing by the time I left... 😂 Oh, and the gem, staff were always called "family." The only thing scary for me is that I have no new job lined up at this time.
Government jobs are the worst. The most corrupt managers and leaders work in Government.
I left my funeral home career as it was starting to become a dead-end job.
Took a 2 year sabbatical with some FU I aint paying taxes income on the side.
Currently there are more job openings than people willing to fill them.
Best of luck, you will find something better out there!!
@@MichielDeSnuyter Weirdly, while it's true that there's more job listings than people willing to fill them, I've encountered a ton of hiring managers seeking unicorns. They don't want a real person to fill the position, who needs a fair wage or worse, might require training. They want a Stafford-Smiler sporting the body of a 20 year old and the experience of a 40 year old to say "yes Master" for no money and be happily worked to death. Since that person doesn't exist the position stays "open" and the problem remains. 🤦♀️
What's wrong with hiring managers these days?
Ever since the 2008 downturn, I vowed never to be dependent on one employer again.
💯💯
I would love to have one job. I have to work a full time job and squeeze in as many side hustles as I can make time for and it’s still not enough to support my family
This is why I am unemployed and life on welfare because I am an honest person.
I'm not going to shame you, get what you can, but as a disabled veteran in a sea of veterans getting "slashed and burned" find something to fall back on. The safety nets always get yanked.
Wow, those that work hard and working two jobs get punished...that explained why slackers always get rewarded. Another reason to never go above and beyond
They learn the hard way
I work two jobs. Both my bosses are aware and my second boss works around my primary job's schedule. Being up front and not agreeing to noncompetes is the key. Shrug
EDIT: Both my jobs have meetings with no cameras, we have them but for some of our rural team members, bandwidth is an issue so as a curtesy, we keep the cameras off. My wife doesn't sign up for benefits because mine are better, even with the spouse premium. While I have two jobs, I do not fit any of those criteria he mentioned.
I have two jobs and my boss likes the idea or simply doesn't care as long as I do my work for them. I'm a security guard from 7am to 7pm, Thursday through Monday. I snuck in my other job as tech support and customer service, then work as usual on Tuesday and Wednesday. This CEO is crazy. Overworking isn't for everyone but as a CEO, at least me, I would be proud of the effort and hard work each day.
You weren't working both jobs at the same time though. These employees were and that's what he is condemning.
I bet the CEO does multiple jobs, being on multiple boards, etc. "Okay for me, but not for thee!"
Every company forces the employees to be “faithful” to the company. But NO company is faithful to the employees.
If these people can, they would try to control every minute of your waking life.
I am all for having 2 salaried jobs as long as you can handle both. I’m working with a BSA who randomly misses meetings, including the daily standup (I’m the PO). He doesn’t reply to emails unless you remind him 3 times, and he seems generally disconnected. All of his deliverables are late too. He’s an anchor on my pod right now, and I think he’s working 2 jobs. He is the example that drives me crazy because he obviously can’t handle both. I still think all the executives are being hyperbolic about this, and hypocritical, but if someone is not meeting expectations let them go. If they’re managing both, who cares?
Yep, I have one of those too, he misses meetings, he's showing offline in zoom for hours, then one of his kids always seems to have a problem they have to be picked up from school, the have taken to the doctor etc etc. Its one excuse after another. He's falling behind on his tasks creating a backlog,
After a while you just know he working more than one job, and he's not handling it well.
@@jefflewis4 it's scary how similar your case is to mine!
The second "job" could also be drugs. I'm constantly dumbfounded by my coworkers' behavior, until I remember "Oh yeah, everyone's on xanax, fentanyl, and/or meth."
The argument that people are stealing a job from someone else if they work two jobs is so ridiculous, just wow. For one thing, it's not stealing because nobody's entitled to that job, the employer can employ whomever they please! For another, taken to its logical extreme, that would have a horrible consequence for the CEO - labor costs would skyrocket! That is, if nobody can work more than one job, especially if they can't work multiple part-time jobs, then the supply of laborers available to meet labor demands ("jobs") will decrease significantly. This means more money is required to attract one laborer to one job relative to the competing jobs. This is literal supply and demand, the most basic form of economics, a field that CEOs are supposed to be extremely well-versed in (or so I thought).
Want cheap(er) labor? Encourage people to fill multiple job openings.
Want (more) expensive labor? Encourage people to only fill one job opening.
That simple.
If neither job interferes with each other and your performance is within keeping for the standards set forth by both employers, then there should be no issue.
To think a company has a right to your unpaid free time is ridiculous. Unless you’re working for a competitor whereby there may be a conflict of interest, your time off is none of your employer’s business.
Here's a crazy idea,Instead of buying a 4th vacation home in Key West - Pay the employees enough so they don't need a 2nd job to make ends meet.
As long as you're not working at a competitor and schedules don't conflict then I don't see the issue. I've worked two jobs before and about to go back to two jobs because I want to buy a house soon and two will get me to that goal faster than just one. I don't know how it's stealing, especially when most people I've met at my work don't even want to work one job. So people like me that want to work two jobs make up for the lazy people who want to sit at home.
Exclusivity clauses are more common now, for minimum wage jobs. Which is ridiculous.
Dude you don’t have to justify working two jobs by calling everyone else lazy. That’s counterproductive. You were fine justifying that you have a goal, having two jobs help you reach that goal, and you have the means to satisfy the job requirement while holding down two jobs. But in no way shape or form does calling other people lazy do anything to help your argument except make you come out looking like an asshole. If you can call others lazy, ceo can call you out for holding down two jobs that are time synchronized.
I guess this is where overemployment hits hustle culture, and this channel isn’t a fan of hustle culture at all. Yeah, I think that’s my issue, you have insecurity that is rooted in hustle culture vs just being humble about working two jobs.
some people are lazy and dont do their job. Thats a reality of work, this channel focuses a lot on the misdeeds of employers but workers often have their share of flaws too.
@@ilyarepin7750 bootlicking for what
The problem is a lot of these cushy engineer jobs give you tons of leverage to think and try to make work fun, with the expectation that you're actually working as hard as you can. I'll ask my engineers often how they feel, how I can help make work easier, etc. and there's a ton of freedom and discretion there. If an engineer is having a slow month that is OK usually, and even expected, but it is extremely dishonest to take advantage of your employers kindness in taking it easy on you while you crank hard for some other company.
It's not theft so long as you fulfill your obligations
one of my previous IT contract gigs, my manager (who up to date has been the laziest/worst manager I've had), knew I had my sub contracting after hours. He asked me to quit that job or I would get fired. The new contract paid more so I quit. I continued to kill it at my new job but I kept making my manager look bad because he was known to be useless, leaving tasks untouched, never documenting anything, just over all terrible. Anyway, he was always looking for reasons to let me go and one day found out I didn't document something that he didn't specify. Once I was let go, he looks at me and says "well, you still have your sub contracting business right?" (the one he asked me to quit months prior).. Gotta love them boomers..
That guy was just a jackass wwho happened to be a boomer
An old firm I worked for was salaried and the boss was a classic boomer mentality.. if your not in front of your desk your not working. I have high expectations and the company expects a minimum of 40 hours a week. Well I am glad you said that, my maximum is 40 hours a week lol
I work two jobs. In one of my work contracts it specifically states that I cannot take secondary employment. However I learnt the hard way at the start of Covid where I was stood down at last minute notice due to lockdowns (multiple) and my salary almost halved during the the first 8 months. I burned through my savings in the first six months of Covid trying to keep afloat. I got desperate and managed to score a second job working from home just to make ends meet.
My hours were returned to normal two and a half years after Covid started. Too little too late. I will never allow myself to be in such a vulnerable position. Yes our govt gave packages to help struggling families and singles during Covid however it covered the bare minimum. I still had responsibilities to pay for. I manage both jobs and got promoted at my secondary job. I make it work. Never allow yourself to be vulnerable to homelessness.
I don't call it a lie when an employer does not ask a particular question. We are told "DON'T " offer up to much information and I have found employers leave a lot of holes in the one sided conversations in the past. Do the best you can with cards you have and when it isn't working for you pack up and leave.
People have had more than one job since the dawn of history…
These idiots have no idea what it’s like in the real world…
He can fire under performers all he wants but he can’t lecture everyone on ethics like that.
"The core moral issue"
-The same people who say "Its just business" when they lay you off
Imagine if the employers paid them enough to work at one......
I got laid off by telling them I was done with my work and helping another department. :D It was lovely.
Being “overemployed” is the reason I have a house now. I will absolutely being doing it again first chance I get. It’s a big reason places are pushing for remote work to end. Like he said. Employees are figuring out things out and the games is swinging in our favor. They don’t like us having options. They really think we’re slaves
Thank you for your content. I was a lapdog for guys like this for nearly a decade before I realized I was throwing my potential away.
I thought they wanted us to work overtime or have 2 jobs considering that they don't pay us much anymore. Make up your minds, rich people. You're totally confusing.
A CEO saying "You're stealing"
The irony is not lost on me 😂😂
I've worked 3-4 jobs at times.😁 I delivered every single time for all of them and I never told any of them about it.
This channel needs to be way bigger
Mr. Davis is operating under the delusion of the employee from the 1950s, where employees worked their ENTIRE LIVES for a single company (also when a single salary could pay for housing/food/savings/education and the like). They don't want their employees working 2 F/T jobs because then they might save enough to leave their current /company/position for something they truly enjoy.
He's not saying this to take an ethical stand, he's saying it because it gives the employee financial stability and companies need their workers to be financially unstable so they can come back to work each day.
Screw your NDA's and non-competes. Just do it. It's ok if you get caught, you still have your other job!
If you're gonna do it, at least think it all the way through.
If you get caught there's a chance you'll lose both jobs. The one employer might tell the other when they find out.
You might even get sued for the wages you earned if you put in time sheet hours for both jobs you couldn't possibly have worked simultaneously.
Most of the time, these are software engineers who are working in the tech space - Silicon Valley, Austin, LA, NY etc.
Although a 'big' industry these companies HR departments and the external talent companies that service them talk to each other.
Get caught once, say goodbye to your career.
I have been through some nasty layofs and if always sucks . You give the company your all and boom your out . That's why OE is good , you get to play at their game . And like your said if you are meeting deadlines and your work is done there should be no issue . It's up to the "project managers " to do their job and assign more work , but I will not ask for more
Own five companies? Hard-working entrepreneur.
Work for two companies? Literally a criminal.
Thanks for making these videos. If we just sit silent in our corporate work culture in the US things will never change. You are 💯 in regards to CEOs and companies flipping the script when they fire you when it’s a “business decision”. It really gets under my skin when companies use words like “family” which creates this false sense of security. Please continue to call out the BS in a professional way.
I remember I was working for a startup company for a guy trying to get this big website off the ground. I was in a desperate situation at the time and needed a place to stay, and was working part time at McDonald's. The guy basically said I could work 15 hours a week for him for free rent so I moved it. This turned into me being guilted gaslit and manipulated into quitting my job at McDonald's and coming to work full time for him for 50 bucks a week plus the free rent. I was an idiot and should never have agreed but this guy was a master manipulator. I was doing EVERYTHING for this guy, graphic design, server admin, back and front end web development, the list goes on. It was never ever enough for him, and to put the cherry on top, he took me working for other people after work to make a little extra cash to be able to live as basically time that should have gone to him. I was working for another guy maybe 6 hours a week for extra cash to be able to survive and this guy had the balls to go and threaten that guy to never give me money again, they had been friends at one point. I eventually quit under his nose to go work for a real company making really good money, fuck that guy. So many people in businesses are narcissist that see their employees as their property.
These employers should be impressed not disgusted. How many people have the ability to do this?