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@@PhoenixTalon I absolutely _had_ to say something about that very thing! Of all of the great stuff in the video to find something to comment about, there was zero doubt in my mind what my comment would *have* to be about, the very moment I heard that! (Edited because I'm a dumbass)
It is truly apparent that Adam fully respected and admired parts of Jamie - they just had different personalities and that made working side by side for all those years more and more difficult. The differences made the show better and both Adam and Jamie would admit they are better off for the team-up but not something they want to do again. I respect that.
This perspective should be more promoted. We are all vastly different people, with vastly different tastes. It's important that we as a people just learn to accept each other as is, whether we like each other a lot, a little, not at all, etc, because we are all capable of being valuable. If someone refuses to be a valuable team member, that's when you reject them. Not just because you don't agree perfectly.
Also, remember that Adam was already working for Jamie before Mythbusters! So, they had a "track record", but, the show changed their relationship as well.... And since few of us will have been at the start up of a cable t.v. program at the time, it's hard to capture the challenges they faced.
Over the years people have seemingly fixated on this idea that Jamie and Adam didn't get along or they hated each other but from my perspective it doesn't seem much different than working with your colleagues in any team-based project. I've worked in groups with people who I respect and admire for some reason or another, but I would NEVER hang out with them after work. I'd never go to lunch with them unless work was involved. I would never invite them around to my house for drinks. I'd never ask if they wanna do any activity whatsoever. I don't hate them, they just do not connect with me on a level I want to do that. This is what most of my acquaintances are like and it's been like this wherever I've worked. The people who become my friends are so because we had something to connect us outside the work, the rest I do not hate, I just won't hang out with them. It's really that simple.
@@jksmellie THIS! I said exactly the same thing on another of Adam's videos. I have never 'hated' anyone that I have worked with. I can't even say I really disliked anyone I worked with. That said, most of the people I have worked with during my life, I would never hang out with after work, or on a personal level.
I think part of the reason the show worked was that Adam and Jamie were such different personalities and they sparked off each other. Complementary rather than conflicting.
I always saw Adam and Jamie as two teachers in the same school teaching the same subject. Adam may be the teacher that prefers to teach using visuals and hands on experiments. Jamie preferred numbers and formulas. Some of us prefer the visuals while others preferred the formulas. Sure, they may sometimes disagree on the other's teaching methodologies but at the end of the day, they both wanted us to learn the same thing and reach the same place.
Jaime would be the teacher who wouldn't lose any sleep failing a student who had a 69% in his class though the student did his absolute best but just needed a little extra help.
@@DonMarzzoni You would be shocked at how many people would enjoy Jamie’s class. He is not at all an uncommon thinker. I have ran into similar types in all different fields, and I would dare to say that many “experts” I’ve worked with are super similar… we need to celebrate both types of learners/educators to see the best in folks
@DonMarzzoni I always identified much easier with Jamie. I see him as more technical and methodical and Adam as more artistic when approaching the same subject.
I think the most clear show of that was when both of them made a foam fat guy (Crash Cushion myth) and the two totally different yet equally viable way of getting there.
You could tell Savage did not appreciate being shocked by a prop. The salt was real, beforehand he was like “is this going to shock me?” Afterwards he was like “ that was dangerous, I could have died”
The thing I like most about these questions is that Adam's answer is always fair and without bitterness. It's so easy for show partners to slide into talking shit about each other once the show's over for years and years. He's never had anything bad to say about Jamie, and there's always respect and admiration in all these stories.
I've always heard Penn and Teller talk about their relationship in a similar way. They started as colleagues. They don't have a lot of similar interests, and they only rarely ever get together outside of work. But Teller was also the first person outside the immediate family to meet Penn's daughter when she was born.
I think they're relationship is a little bit different but thats just my opinion. It seems to me jamie and adam respected each other as colleagues but weren't really friends so they didn't hang out outside of work. Penn and teller probably do consider each other both colleagues and friends but probably figure they spend almost every day with each other anyway so the socializing isn't really necessary.
its always interesting how people always misinterpret yours and Jaime's relationship, everyone seems to think you didn't like each other due to not being best friends off set or that you dont talk often. like you dont ask someone you despise to come work for you on a tv show. its almost like they've never had working relationships in their lives where you click with a fellow coworker so well that you can communicate without talking, or constructively disagree and produce better work because of it and yet...outside of work...you dont hang out, or send Christmas cards to each other
I thought the same thing. Whenever Adam mentions Jamie here on Tested, he always talks about him with a great deal of respect. They may have had different approaches, but they were still people who willingly worked together.
@@thegentlemanpirate13 Respect is the best word to describe their relationship. They both knew each other's skills and personality and even with completely different interests they could still focus on the work and respect each other. It takes a lot of maturity to do that for so many years. It's probably why the show worked so well.
Jamie did an interview with a Finnish magazine this month where he said almost exactly the same as Adam always does. They weren't friends, they were colleagues that had a lot of respect for each other and how each other worked. He even said for Mythbusters, they needed a Yin and Yang relationship for it to work. People seem to think that if you're not friends, you're enemies. No. That's not how life works folks!
The back and forth between you two, I didn’t recognize it back then of course but I’ve realized it’s two very capable people striving for the same end goal and honestly it’s excellent to observe. That said the nature that Jamie played things close to the vest and how the stories afterward of learning Russian and living on a boat create a mythos to his persona. Even the story of him training down his reaction time can really only be met with a shrug and a “of course he could do that” because it just seems like something he would do.
So the saying goes that 'You are the average of the five people you surround yourself with'. If Jamie and the others (Grant) etc. were part of Adams circle, even the tough days would have been a learning exercise that many of us could only dream of. Adam is the man I admire so much now because of his willingness to reflect on challenges, learn from them, and actively seek out those who provided him often difficult but always rewarding, growth experiences. Adam is what I strive to become, creative, slightly mad but also willing to fail quickly and fall forward. I can only thank the others for helping him become someone that I wish (and I expect so many others) desire to emulate. Thanks for making my childhood and thanks for being an excellent role model as an adult.
I think I completely understand what Adam means when he says he doesn't like Jamie, but loved working with him. That's exactly what I feel when I think about my supervisor. He's a self-identified dick, but we get along and work well together for the most part. I don't think we could really be friends outside work, though. We would probably appear to be friends to anyone watching us banter while we work, but we're fundamentally different people in so many ways.
I work _really well_ with "self identified assholes", no idea why. The non-stop back and forth insults and banter is great, but usually that's their entire personality. Hard to form a meaningful connection with someone that doesn't have depth IMO.
I would love to have an update on what Jamie is doing. He was as big as you in my childhood. It was awesome to see him on tested at the beginning. Maybe one day we will have a visit from him again here.
Taken from Wikipedia: "In November 2021, Hyneman was appointed professor of practice at LUT University in Lappeenranta, Finland for a five-year term until November 2026"
Last i heard he made some sort of Omega Military-type fire fighting tank thingamadoo. It's pretty nice that even though we don't hear from him, he's putting his efforts into something that might save lives one day.
I've been re-watching MythBusters again and I really enjoy the play between you & Jamie... sometimes there is a little "tension" because someone fscked something up, but other times, the collaboration and "MythBusters Mind Melds" are just amazing to see when you come up with solutions together. So what if you weren't friends off set, I am not friends with my co-workers outside of the office either, but I still enjoy working and collaborating with them (we're software engineers)
@@tested Though, It would be fun if you could convince him to pop up on Tested at least once. Especially if you could get him to Q&A alone. It would be nice but I'm not going to hold my breath.
It's always good to hear collaborators talk highly of each other. You see these sensationist articles that Adam and Jamie hated each other, but that is clearly not true. Didn't always agree or get along, but who does?
Absolutely. Jamie described their working relationship as yin and yang very recently. Respected each other but they weren't friends. I think people get tied up with it because it's a very comparable show to Top Gear/The Grand Tour in many ways and they have a different working dynamic as a three. Not being friends doesn't mean you're automatically enemies. They respected each other as colleagues and both being so different as personalities but sharing a passion is what made the show work.
i think it would be neat if mythbusters came back not as like a regular show but maybe 2 or 3 (extended?) episodes a year with the purpose of revisiting old myths by utilizing all the advancements since the first time around.
revisiting, improving, covering myths that were dismissed (due to technological limits or other), and myths never considered (new and old). Plenty of smaller myths that people could do at home now (or some youtube channels like TKOR sometimes does), but there are tons where it would be near impossible to do at home. Many of the explosion myths and some of the gun myths would still be almost impossible to do at home. Some classics are fine to redo every so often (needle in a haystack could have a 3rd run). Without m5 and m7, it would be really different but that would be fine because it would be a whole new thing. I still think a recurring version of the search would be great. Adam or other mythbusters would hopefully cameo and participate somehow. In a season you would have a winner multiple times times and then start with a new set of people, 3 or 4 episodes per group/winner maybe. With this configuration it would be easy to do a best of the best round comprised of winners. Since it would not be searching for the new mythbusters cast, would need a name other than the search (mythbusters: CC (continued competition)?), and the metrics used to eliminate people would probably need to be changed. Science/education/mythbusters meets tv competitions-cooking/bladesmithing/so many types exist, why not this? Ideally this would be done on a different platform so the advertisers issues do not limit (floatplane?). But not being on larger network means lower budget too...so that part is true pipe dream.
I liked to see the different approaches of Jamie and Adam. The competition part also added to that. Sometimes I love the straight forward approach of Jamie, but then the crazy approach of Adam would inspire me to think differently about how to solve a problem. Mythbusters was comfort food to me.
Thanks for the shout out to The FIRST robotics community. As a FRC mentor for the last 12 years there is no other program that offers high school students anything even close to the opportunity that is present in this program.
A friend and I took a road trip from oregon to San Francisco to ride bikes around the city for a couple days. We ended up in an industrial area and I said “I bet the mythbusters warehouse is somewhere around here .” I later googled the location of the myth busters warehouse and we were only 4 blocks away when I made that comment.
Oh, I'm so happy you read Chronicles of Amber! It's a series my dad got me to read and it's one of my favorites. I'd love to ask your top 3 Sci-fi/Fantasy series, if you're not busy and get an opportunity to reply. 😊
The show wouldn't be the same without some sort of conflict. Personally I believe growth and understanding come from friction and conflict, and showing that to the audience I believe is essential to the process of learning and understanding.
I'm glad that the worst arguments seemed to be Jamie annoyed that Adam used polish on the turdball. Nothing like the BS that came out of the American Chopper. That show started out so good with each show being about the bikes then it turned into whiny abusive drama.
This is a wonderful example of what a truly respectful society can work: you don’t have to like someone particularly, be best friends or anything; but sharing a mutual respect for each other, their ideas, their approaches and a trust that one can safely reach consensus in letting the others have their way instead of oppressing other opinions - that is a wonderful work and human relationship. And one can still say, no, I’m not hanging out with you for lunch, other people fit me better for this and that.
This reminded me of something I had endless laughs at over the years but had not thought about in a very long time: when Adam would do the hand/finger mustache impersonation of Jamie.
I always loved when Jamie and Adam broke off to try their own ”Methods" especially watching growing up. In school we are often denied the opportunity to chase after our own crazy ideas. It was awesome seeing them fail, succeed, shock and take ideas to the extreme. Gotta love when one was "busted" and then they would see what it would take for it to actually happen! Those were so cool
I often feel that people confuse the statement, "didn't like" with "disliked". I don't think Adam ever said he actively disliked Jamie, or am I wrong about that?
There is indeed a huge difference between "we have nothing in common" and "I hate that person". The way I see it from every time I heard Adam talk about their relationship is that they have a lot of respect for each other and value each other's skills but they are also aware that they have completely different personalities and interests. They have been aware of it from the very start. Jamie chose Adam for the show because he knew he didn't have the personality to carry the show himself.
@@chamoo232 That's something many people overlook. If Jamie actively disliked Adam, he would never have reached out to him for the show. If Adam actively disliked Jamie, he would never have agreed to such a far fetched idea for a TV show.
I think people really need to understand that you don't have to be friends or even like a person to be able to be effective at being in a team... I have been a chef all my life, right now I work for a team that is the best I have ever worked with we are tight, create great food and there is very little conflict within the team, but... None of us really share any interests, (Im the only metalhead gamer-nerd for example). I don't speak to my work mates outside of work, sure some of them are friends, but that isn't a requirement for being effective workers. I know their strengths and weaknesses, they know mine, we get the job done and very little actually needs to be said to get that job done... Conversely, I have worked in places where we were all friends, hung out on weekends/after work and for one reason or another the work environment was shit... Some of those people I am still friends with, but I would never work with them again... Liking someone isn't a requirement for being a great team, in fact sometimes it is better to have emotional dis-attachment that way you can be more honest and upfront with people...
I had a small part on our FIRST robotics team at Carl Hayden (the same HIGH school that beat MIT at the ROV competition). shockingly, we, and EVERY TEAM, got a digital gyro chip in our start box. this was the same year the Segway came out, debuting the tech for the public, and was otherwise a several thousand dollar chip, and was only one of dozens of items in the start box! our fee was only like $300 to get the start box and register as a team... so yeah, serious generosity from Dean Kamen
Oxygen rich atmospheres are no joke! The first lesson anybody learns when dealing with O2 cylinders is NO OILY GLOVES! Years ago I worked as a Warranty Engineer for a Med gas delivery system manufacturer. One day I got a call claiming a worker in a hospital had been injured. Of course in the customers mind everything that went wrong was OUR fault. Seems the guy was changing out O2 tanks on a manifold system. So many tanks on either side. He went to open the last cylinder on one end out of 10 or so. Seems 1) The cylinder had a leaky stem seal and 2) He was wearing oily gloves! Pure O2 hits the glove and it caught on fire! Plus the fire instantly ignited the handwheel on top of the cylinder and it became a cutting torch! Caught the wall on fire behind it. So they tried to sue US claiming the manifold itself was at fault! Got the glove (what was left of it) and after some back and forth between our Corporate Legal and theirs we finally convinced them to look at the gas tank supplier! And train their personnel better...
That segment about the Brylcreem myth had one of my favorite lines ever on Mythbusters: "Do not attempt explosive decapitation with hair care products at home."
I want to say that reacting to a hot surface is probably quicker than the average traditional reaction time because your brainstem is already getting the sensory input from the extreme heat and instinctively responding to it very early in that sensory pipeline (before you can even really process the sensation)
We need more shows like junkyard wars or Jamie vs Adam. The showing of kids and everyone that not every problem or task has one solution is important for new ideas
I think it's really difficult for most people to understand a relationship like this. Most people aren't typically this focused or driven and so never encounter a relationship that's purely functional.
I remember one practical joke in particular - Adam getting shocked by the Arc of the Covenant. I remember you looking really unhappy about it and I felt really bad for you. Love all your do - thank you!
The only time I saw Adam legitimately upset was when they wired up the Ark of the Covenant and shocked him. He even called it and asked them if they wired it up before he touched it.
Reaction time: When I was a senior in college I had a suitemate whose boyfriend was in to juggling. He taught me. I got a lot of practice waiting in line at Andy's hot dog cart. I never got beyond the basic 3 ball pattern but was passable at that and continued to practice off and on. Once or twice, when out to dinner, the person next to me accidentally knocked over their water and I caught it before it spilled. I've not practiced in years and doubt I'm still that quick.
Talking about reaction times. I am a factory mechanic who welds and uses torches everyday. I find with hot metal burning me. My reaction has gotten less and less over the years. I have calluses but I feel my body has gotten used to it
I'm curious, if you haven't covered this already, who's idea was it to start Mythbusters in the first place? And thank you so much for your work and videos throughout the years, including this channel!
I don't know why everyone thinks that because Adam and Jamie weren't the best of friends it means they must have been the worst of enemies. Not everyone gets along super well with everyone else but it doesn't mean they can't respect each other's talents and methods, and clearly both of them are incredibly intelligent.
Here’s what I gather about you and Jamie… You loved working together. You enjoyed the collaboration, and even the disagreements, because you disagreed respectfully, and let each other do their own thing at times. Would you hang out with him socially? Sure. Regularly? No. It’s not that you don’t like him… it’s that you just really don’t mesh at all outside your common love of tinkering and working on things like this. Outside of that - you can get along, and do like each other… just not best buddies by any means.
Following up on the practical jokes question, the only time I really felt something a bit beyond "creative friction" or laughs was the Electric Ark. That shock looked like it hurt and seemed like there was a bit of genuine apology needed to you after that. I always appreciated how well the team worked together on things and was greatly saddened when the band moved on. Still, life is change: Keep up the great work and thanks for the many moons of entertaining enlightenment!
Yes, they still make the original Brylcreem pomade but the name is used as a brand for waxes and gels as well. Certainly in the UK where it originates from anyway.
This was actually one of my favorite things about the Marine Corps. You have someone that you may push each others buttons, or don't particularly get along, but the planes have to be in the air, and when you work together, or come up with an idea of how to do something together, it just always seemed to be more gratifying in the end. It was a good feeling. Unfortunately sometimes it was because you felt like you were overcoming another obstacle by default just working with a jerk. That happened on occasion too.
you were talking about the practical jokes aspect from behind the scenes, and all i could think about was the outtake i saw from the ark of the covenant (insert nervouse laugh).
3:24 Jamie got to high level professional counterstrike player level reaction times at well over what is considered the "prime age range" for reaction times. That is insanely impressive.
Im very happy with the new context given to the "me and Jamie didnt like each other" statement you make sometimes cause I genuinely thought you two didnt like each other lol
I was waiting for the Arduino mention when I heard the question about "Would current technology have made testing some of the myths easier". Nice. Love the platform.
I think the myth of you hating each other has grown out of control, correct me if I'm wrong, but the way I saw it was: you were coworkers, you weren't best friends, but you worked well together
I feel like people here "we were not friends" and somehow interpreted that as they didn't like each other. From what I've seen and heard, they didn't hate each other. I have people I work with who are great people to work with. They are intelligent and creative and when we work together, we bring out the best in each other. But we're not friendly enough, or have enough similarities in personailty, that we would enjoy sharing our free time with each other. I feel like this would describe Adam and Jamie.
It amazes me when viewers want you and Jamie to be fighting like feral animals. Adults can disagree and just not be all warm and fuzzy with absolutely hating each others. You can’t always be best friends with coworkers. This is part of living as adults. You all were great together whether you were fuzzy or prickly as hell.
Interesting you ask about practical jokes. I always felt that that time Tori shocked Adam, Adam was really pissed off, and they probably had serious words about it off screen, but they just cut away and didn't show it.
From what I’ve read. Tori REALLY didn’t want to do it and was, perhaps urged to do it for content by the producers. The aftermath lasted for a little longer than shown on film and Adam had to go on a long walk to calm down and make sure there weren’t any serious repercussions on his health. Again, I think Adam was pissed off but more toward the producers and the resolution between him and Tori is genuine. Adana gone on record to say nothing but wonderful and kind things. Again again, I read this online so take this with a pinch of salt.
@@JoshuaBatch Part of me would really like Adam to visit this on this youtube channel, but most of me thinks it should be left by the wayside of history and largely forgotten about.
The Chronicles of Amber are a wonderful set of books and I would Highly recommend that they be read again... As a matter of Fact I will hop onto that now.
Not having chemistry on a personal level doesn't mean that you can't have good chemistry on a professional level if you are both bringing good work ethic and skills to the table in a way where one makes up for the other's shortcomings in a way that just "works". Seeing the very cerebral Jamie contrasting with a big kid like Adam makes me think of the dynamics between Spongebob and Squidward and their personalities have some similarities as well hahaha
I know they had issues with it but surely they could get it to work with enough time.....there are solar farms that essentially already do that where instead of being an array of solar panels its an array of mirrors that focus the sun onto a point in order boil water and they "harvest" the energy from steam power rather than it being directly solar energy.
You should talk to Discovery about letting you use clips from the show! I'd love to see the visual aide as you explain things. Love your Content man you were my childhood! I watched the premiere and never looked back!
The only time I felt a prank or playfulness on the set went wrong is when they did the electric shock arc of the covenant thing with the Bagdad battery and used a real electric fence thing on you. I felt your anger as very genuine in that episode, which I love because it showed the authenticity of the show, because you didn't really run from the negative either.
Kind of reminds of the fallacy of jurisdiction on detective shows. They never actually fight over jurisdiction. In reality if agency A wants jurisdiction agency B will go "you want it, you got it." Why, it takes one more case off of agency B's plate freeing their resources up for something else.
You mentioned how the showrunner sets the collaborative atmosphere but what is the process for denying someone's idea or direction while maintaining that chipper atmosphere? For an extra challenge how about when the crew are volunteers?
I know the subject fascinates people, but it is not uncommon for professionals working at a high level to not be BFF’s outside of work. The Beatles come to mind…
Which is a weird comparison, because the Beatles started by being *very* close to each other, then grew apart because they were growing into adult lives.
Coincidentally, we just watched the "Magic Bullet" episode (talk about an early show!) wherein Jamie and Adam both built an air-gun umbrella assassination device. Jamie tried to make a custom pressure vessel and all that, while Adam just repurposed the innards of a CO2-powered air pistol. Jamie's didn't work so well...
I am inordinately pleased that you like _Chronicles of Amber_ as much as I do! I actually need a new set, as my old one just literally (pun intended) fell apart from usage!
When I tried the MLB fastball speed pitching machine at the batting cages here the 3 (out of 50) I made actual contact with were purely by random chance. All it can do is throw meatballs at an almost standardized speed and predictable trajectory and I still only managed to succeed by accident. I couldn’t even really see it before it was past me. After that I stopped being critical of players. Even the worst hitter in MLB history is 1000x better than me at hitting a baseball.
I've never liked these kinds of questions that kinda throw wedges between Adam and Jamie. They had a working relationship whilst being two almost completely different people so, hindsight being 20/20, it makes perfect sense that they may not have had the best personal relationship. However, they pushed through it and almost never let it show on camera while putting out media changing television
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Do a reunion episode..... Make the jet pack that you guys couldnt get to fly
Thumbs up for the Chronicles of Amber series shout out. My favorite books!
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@@PhoenixTalon I absolutely _had_ to say something about that very thing! Of all of the great stuff in the video to find something to comment about, there was zero doubt in my mind what my comment would *have* to be about, the very moment I heard that!
(Edited because I'm a dumbass)
@@MaryAnnNytowl Ah, a fellow reader with taste. I'm just surprised there are not more comments about it.
It is truly apparent that Adam fully respected and admired parts of Jamie - they just had different personalities and that made working side by side for all those years more and more difficult. The differences made the show better and both Adam and Jamie would admit they are better off for the team-up but not something they want to do again. I respect that.
This perspective should be more promoted. We are all vastly different people, with vastly different tastes. It's important that we as a people just learn to accept each other as is, whether we like each other a lot, a little, not at all, etc, because we are all capable of being valuable. If someone refuses to be a valuable team member, that's when you reject them. Not just because you don't agree perfectly.
Also, remember that Adam was already working for Jamie before Mythbusters!
So, they had a "track record", but, the show changed their relationship as well....
And since few of us will have been at the start up of a cable t.v. program at the time, it's hard to capture the challenges they faced.
Over the years people have seemingly fixated on this idea that Jamie and Adam didn't get along or they hated each other but from my perspective it doesn't seem much different than working with your colleagues in any team-based project.
I've worked in groups with people who I respect and admire for some reason or another, but I would NEVER hang out with them after work. I'd never go to lunch with them unless work was involved. I would never invite them around to my house for drinks. I'd never ask if they wanna do any activity whatsoever. I don't hate them, they just do not connect with me on a level I want to do that.
This is what most of my acquaintances are like and it's been like this wherever I've worked. The people who become my friends are so because we had something to connect us outside the work, the rest I do not hate, I just won't hang out with them. It's really that simple.
@@jksmellie THIS! I said exactly the same thing on another of Adam's videos. I have never 'hated' anyone that I have worked with. I can't even say I really disliked anyone I worked with. That said, most of the people I have worked with during my life, I would never hang out with after work, or on a personal level.
I think part of the reason the show worked was that Adam and Jamie were such different personalities and they sparked off each other. Complementary rather than conflicting.
I always saw Adam and Jamie as two teachers in the same school teaching the same subject. Adam may be the teacher that prefers to teach using visuals and hands on experiments. Jamie preferred numbers and formulas. Some of us prefer the visuals while others preferred the formulas. Sure, they may sometimes disagree on the other's teaching methodologies but at the end of the day, they both wanted us to learn the same thing and reach the same place.
I'll be in Adam's classes no contest. I doubt anyone would enthusiastically want to be in Jaimes class.
Jaime would be the teacher who wouldn't lose any sleep failing a student who had a 69% in his class though the student did his absolute best but just needed a little extra help.
@@DonMarzzoni You would be shocked at how many people would enjoy Jamie’s class. He is not at all an uncommon thinker. I have ran into similar types in all different fields, and I would dare to say that many “experts” I’ve worked with are super similar… we need to celebrate both types of learners/educators to see the best in folks
@DonMarzzoni I always identified much easier with Jamie. I see him as more technical and methodical and Adam as more artistic when approaching the same subject.
The best part of you two were the differences in ideas and execution, a great way to show how there are many ways to approach a single issue. Cheers!
I think the most clear show of that was when both of them made a foam fat guy (Crash Cushion myth) and the two totally different yet equally viable way of getting there.
Their differences wasn't only there LOL
Am I the only one that immediately thought of the hovercrafts they made and tested?
You could tell Savage did not appreciate being shocked by a prop. The salt was real, beforehand he was like “is this going to shock me?” Afterwards he was like “ that was dangerous, I could have died”
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The thing I like most about these questions is that Adam's answer is always fair and without bitterness. It's so easy for show partners to slide into talking shit about each other once the show's over for years and years. He's never had anything bad to say about Jamie, and there's always respect and admiration in all these stories.
I've always heard Penn and Teller talk about their relationship in a similar way. They started as colleagues. They don't have a lot of similar interests, and they only rarely ever get together outside of work. But Teller was also the first person outside the immediate family to meet Penn's daughter when she was born.
I think they're relationship is a little bit different but thats just my opinion. It seems to me jamie and adam respected each other as colleagues but weren't really friends so they didn't hang out outside of work. Penn and teller probably do consider each other both colleagues and friends but probably figure they spend almost every day with each other anyway so the socializing isn't really necessary.
Penn and Teller are best friends they just didn't start out that way.
Penn spoke about it at length in a big think video a while back
@@GinEric84 yeah cause teller was a soft spoken teacher and penn was loud mouthed carnie trash
@@rays5163 Teller isn't that soft spoken in private.
@@GinEric84 despite not being mute. He's pretty far from what I'd call "boisterous"
its always interesting how people always misinterpret yours and Jaime's relationship, everyone seems to think you didn't like each other due to not being best friends off set or that you dont talk often. like you dont ask someone you despise to come work for you on a tv show. its almost like they've never had working relationships in their lives where you click with a fellow coworker so well that you can communicate without talking, or constructively disagree and produce better work because of it and yet...outside of work...you dont hang out, or send Christmas cards to each other
I thought the same thing. Whenever Adam mentions Jamie here on Tested, he always talks about him with a great deal of respect. They may have had different approaches, but they were still people who willingly worked together.
@@thegentlemanpirate13 Respect is the best word to describe their relationship. They both knew each other's skills and personality and even with completely different interests they could still focus on the work and respect each other. It takes a lot of maturity to do that for so many years. It's probably why the show worked so well.
Jamie did an interview with a Finnish magazine this month where he said almost exactly the same as Adam always does. They weren't friends, they were colleagues that had a lot of respect for each other and how each other worked.
He even said for Mythbusters, they needed a Yin and Yang relationship for it to work.
People seem to think that if you're not friends, you're enemies. No. That's not how life works folks!
@@plkrtn Can that interview be found online somewhere?
@@SolarWebsite unfortunately it's behind a paywall.
Adam and Jamie remind me of two puzzle pieces that fit together perfectly, yet come from completely different puzzles
The back and forth between you two, I didn’t recognize it back then of course but I’ve realized it’s two very capable people striving for the same end goal and honestly it’s excellent to observe.
That said the nature that Jamie played things close to the vest and how the stories afterward of learning Russian and living on a boat create a mythos to his persona. Even the story of him training down his reaction time can really only be met with a shrug and a “of course he could do that” because it just seems like something he would do.
So the saying goes that 'You are the average of the five people you surround yourself with'. If Jamie and the others (Grant) etc. were part of Adams circle, even the tough days would have been a learning exercise that many of us could only dream of. Adam is the man I admire so much now because of his willingness to reflect on challenges, learn from them, and actively seek out those who provided him often difficult but always rewarding, growth experiences. Adam is what I strive to become, creative, slightly mad but also willing to fail quickly and fall forward. I can only thank the others for helping him become someone that I wish (and I expect so many others) desire to emulate. Thanks for making my childhood and thanks for being an excellent role model as an adult.
I think I completely understand what Adam means when he says he doesn't like Jamie, but loved working with him. That's exactly what I feel when I think about my supervisor. He's a self-identified dick, but we get along and work well together for the most part. I don't think we could really be friends outside work, though. We would probably appear to be friends to anyone watching us banter while we work, but we're fundamentally different people in so many ways.
I work _really well_ with "self identified assholes", no idea why. The non-stop back and forth insults and banter is great, but usually that's their entire personality. Hard to form a meaningful connection with someone that doesn't have depth IMO.
I would love to have an update on what Jamie is doing. He was as big as you in my childhood. It was awesome to see him on tested at the beginning. Maybe one day we will have a visit from him again here.
Taken from Wikipedia: "In November 2021, Hyneman was appointed professor of practice at LUT University in Lappeenranta, Finland for a five-year term until November 2026"
He's been doing a bunch of military testing as well
Last i heard he made some sort of Omega Military-type fire fighting tank thingamadoo. It's pretty nice that even though we don't hear from him, he's putting his efforts into something that might save lives one day.
@@edwardrhoades6957 From the looks of it, LUT University is like MIT or CalTech, so that's a pretty nice feather in Jamie's cap.
I've been re-watching MythBusters again and I really enjoy the play between you & Jamie... sometimes there is a little "tension" because someone fscked something up, but other times, the collaboration and "MythBusters Mind Melds" are just amazing to see when you come up with solutions together. So what if you weren't friends off set, I am not friends with my co-workers outside of the office either, but I still enjoy working and collaborating with them (we're software engineers)
I'd really love to see Jamie answer these questions too. Just so we can compare their viewpoints and memories over their years of working together
We don't disagree, but Jamie is very very happy living a very very low profile of late.
@@tested And good on him for that! He's had enough publicity over the years
He deserves one, too! Awesome video as usual.
@@tested Though, It would be fun if you could convince him to pop up on Tested at least once. Especially if you could get him to Q&A alone. It would be nice but I'm not going to hold my breath.
@@tested am I wrong in assuming a lot of Jamie's answers would be shorter than his hair?
It's always good to hear collaborators talk highly of each other. You see these sensationist articles that Adam and Jamie hated each other, but that is clearly not true. Didn't always agree or get along, but who does?
Absolutely. Jamie described their working relationship as yin and yang very recently. Respected each other but they weren't friends. I think people get tied up with it because it's a very comparable show to Top Gear/The Grand Tour in many ways and they have a different working dynamic as a three.
Not being friends doesn't mean you're automatically enemies. They respected each other as colleagues and both being so different as personalities but sharing a passion is what made the show work.
Jamie's "pop gun" still cracks me up. It's really cool to see the variety of approaches that all of you would take to the same problem.
i think it would be neat if mythbusters came back not as like a regular show but maybe 2 or 3 (extended?) episodes a year with the purpose of revisiting old myths by utilizing all the advancements since the first time around.
It would be different without grant
revisiting, improving, covering myths that were dismissed (due to technological limits or other), and myths never considered (new and old). Plenty of smaller myths that people could do at home now (or some youtube channels like TKOR sometimes does), but there are tons where it would be near impossible to do at home. Many of the explosion myths and some of the gun myths would still be almost impossible to do at home. Some classics are fine to redo every so often (needle in a haystack could have a 3rd run).
Without m5 and m7, it would be really different but that would be fine because it would be a whole new thing. I still think a recurring version of the search would be great. Adam or other mythbusters would hopefully cameo and participate somehow. In a season you would have a winner multiple times times and then start with a new set of people, 3 or 4 episodes per group/winner maybe. With this configuration it would be easy to do a best of the best round comprised of winners. Since it would not be searching for the new mythbusters cast, would need a name other than the search (mythbusters: CC (continued competition)?), and the metrics used to eliminate people would probably need to be changed. Science/education/mythbusters meets tv competitions-cooking/bladesmithing/so many types exist, why not this?
Ideally this would be done on a different platform so the advertisers issues do not limit (floatplane?). But not being on larger network means lower budget too...so that part is true pipe dream.
I liked to see the different approaches of Jamie and Adam. The competition part also added to that. Sometimes I love the straight forward approach of Jamie, but then the crazy approach of Adam would inspire me to think differently about how to solve a problem. Mythbusters was comfort food to me.
Thanks for the shout out to The FIRST robotics community. As a FRC mentor for the last 12 years there is no other program that offers high school students anything even close to the opportunity that is present in this program.
I'ld like to learn more about it ! Can you point out somewhere to learn more ?! I barely caught the mention, so, bit hard to know where to start !
A friend and I took a road trip from oregon to San Francisco to ride bikes around the city for a couple days. We ended up in an industrial area and I said “I bet the mythbusters warehouse is somewhere around here .”
I later googled the location of the myth busters warehouse and we were only 4 blocks away when I made that comment.
Oh, I'm so happy you read Chronicles of Amber! It's a series my dad got me to read and it's one of my favorites. I'd love to ask your top 3 Sci-fi/Fantasy series, if you're not busy and get an opportunity to reply. 😊
Oh, yes, please answer this!
The show wouldn't be the same without some sort of conflict. Personally I believe growth and understanding come from friction and conflict, and showing that to the audience I believe is essential to the process of learning and understanding.
I'm glad though that any conflict was minor and genuine, and they didn't follow the usual reality formula and try to gin up beefs just for show.
I'm glad that the worst arguments seemed to be Jamie annoyed that Adam used polish on the turdball. Nothing like the BS that came out of the American Chopper. That show started out so good with each show being about the bikes then it turned into whiny abusive drama.
Miss mythbusters so much
This is a wonderful example of what a truly respectful society can work: you don’t have to like someone particularly, be best friends or anything; but sharing a mutual respect for each other, their ideas, their approaches and a trust that one can safely reach consensus in letting the others have their way instead of oppressing other opinions - that is a wonderful work and human relationship. And one can still say, no, I’m not hanging out with you for lunch, other people fit me better for this and that.
This reminded me of something I had endless laughs at over the years but had not thought about in a very long time: when Adam would do the hand/finger mustache impersonation of Jamie.
I always loved when Jamie and Adam broke off to try their own ”Methods" especially watching growing up. In school we are often denied the opportunity to chase after our own crazy ideas. It was awesome seeing them fail, succeed, shock and take ideas to the extreme. Gotta love when one was "busted" and then they would see what it would take for it to actually happen! Those were so cool
Thank you Adam. Your openness & candor made me love the myth busters even more. I wish you and Jamie the best at your own future endeavors.
I often feel that people confuse the statement, "didn't like" with "disliked".
I don't think Adam ever said he actively disliked Jamie, or am I wrong about that?
There is indeed a huge difference between "we have nothing in common" and "I hate that person". The way I see it from every time I heard Adam talk about their relationship is that they have a lot of respect for each other and value each other's skills but they are also aware that they have completely different personalities and interests. They have been aware of it from the very start. Jamie chose Adam for the show because he knew he didn't have the personality to carry the show himself.
@@chamoo232 A strange thing is their contrasting personalities on air worked so well.
@@chamoo232 That's something many people overlook. If Jamie actively disliked Adam, he would never have reached out to him for the show. If Adam actively disliked Jamie, he would never have agreed to such a far fetched idea for a TV show.
Absolutely love these walks down memory lane. Keep up the awesome work , fan for life !!!
Adam is slowly looking more and more like a mad scientist.
I think people really need to understand that you don't have to be friends or even like a person to be able to be effective at being in a team...
I have been a chef all my life, right now I work for a team that is the best I have ever worked with we are tight, create great food and there is very little conflict within the team, but... None of us really share any interests, (Im the only metalhead gamer-nerd for example). I don't speak to my work mates outside of work, sure some of them are friends, but that isn't a requirement for being effective workers. I know their strengths and weaknesses, they know mine, we get the job done and very little actually needs to be said to get that job done...
Conversely, I have worked in places where we were all friends, hung out on weekends/after work and for one reason or another the work environment was shit... Some of those people I am still friends with, but I would never work with them again...
Liking someone isn't a requirement for being a great team, in fact sometimes it is better to have emotional dis-attachment that way you can be more honest and upfront with people...
Pairing two people with different views, able to work respecting eachother is always a benefit to both and the project.
I had a small part on our FIRST robotics team at Carl Hayden (the same HIGH school that beat MIT at the ROV competition). shockingly, we, and EVERY TEAM, got a digital gyro chip in our start box. this was the same year the Segway came out, debuting the tech for the public, and was otherwise a several thousand dollar chip, and was only one of dozens of items in the start box! our fee was only like $300 to get the start box and register as a team... so yeah, serious generosity from Dean Kamen
Oxygen rich atmospheres are no joke! The first lesson anybody learns when dealing with O2 cylinders is NO OILY GLOVES! Years ago I worked as a Warranty Engineer for a Med gas delivery system manufacturer. One day I got a call claiming a worker in a hospital had been injured. Of course in the customers mind everything that went wrong was OUR fault. Seems the guy was changing out O2 tanks on a manifold system. So many tanks on either side. He went to open the last cylinder on one end out of 10 or so. Seems 1) The cylinder had a leaky stem seal and 2) He was wearing oily gloves! Pure O2 hits the glove and it caught on fire! Plus the fire instantly ignited the handwheel on top of the cylinder and it became a cutting torch! Caught the wall on fire behind it. So they tried to sue US claiming the manifold itself was at fault! Got the glove (what was left of it) and after some back and forth between our Corporate Legal and theirs we finally convinced them to look at the gas tank supplier! And train their personnel better...
That segment about the Brylcreem myth had one of my favorite lines ever on Mythbusters: "Do not attempt explosive decapitation with hair care products at home."
I want to say that reacting to a hot surface is probably quicker than the average traditional reaction time because your brainstem is already getting the sensory input from the extreme heat and instinctively responding to it very early in that sensory pipeline (before you can even really process the sensation)
Always good to hear someone giving Seveneves and the genius of Neal Stephenson props - currently enjoying my first read of the reprint of The Big U.
We need more shows like junkyard wars or Jamie vs Adam. The showing of kids and everyone that not every problem or task has one solution is important for new ideas
Junkyard wars was underrated.
I loved the paper jail Cross bow when you go head to head I love it. The head to head and seeing the totally different styles
Thank you, Adam, for Chanel no. 2; that’s now in regular rotation!
I just started rewatching Mythbusters from the first season again. It’s such an awesome show that doesn’t get old
I think it's really difficult for most people to understand a relationship like this. Most people aren't typically this focused or driven and so never encounter a relationship that's purely functional.
I remember one practical joke in particular - Adam getting shocked by the Arc of the Covenant. I remember you looking really unhappy about it and I felt really bad for you. Love all your do - thank you!
The only time I saw Adam legitimately upset was when they wired up the Ark of the Covenant and shocked him. He even called it and asked them if they wired it up before he touched it.
Reaction time: When I was a senior in college I had a suitemate whose boyfriend was in to juggling. He taught me. I got a lot of practice waiting in line at Andy's hot dog cart. I never got beyond the basic 3 ball pattern but was passable at that and continued to practice off and on.
Once or twice, when out to dinner, the person next to me accidentally knocked over their water and I caught it before it spilled.
I've not practiced in years and doubt I'm still that quick.
Talking about reaction times. I am a factory mechanic who welds and uses torches everyday. I find with hot metal burning me. My reaction has gotten less and less over the years. I have calluses but I feel my body has gotten used to it
Jamie and yourself worked great together, along with the rest of the team.
You inspired my life to be a builder sir. Thank you.
I'm curious, if you haven't covered this already, who's idea was it to start Mythbusters in the first place? And thank you so much for your work and videos throughout the years, including this channel!
I don't know why everyone thinks that because Adam and Jamie weren't the best of friends it means they must have been the worst of enemies. Not everyone gets along super well with everyone else but it doesn't mean they can't respect each other's talents and methods, and clearly both of them are incredibly intelligent.
I always enjoyed your team enjoying each other's ideas and celebrating success AND failure!
Here’s what I gather about you and Jamie… You loved working together. You enjoyed the collaboration, and even the disagreements, because you disagreed respectfully, and let each other do their own thing at times.
Would you hang out with him socially? Sure. Regularly? No. It’s not that you don’t like him… it’s that you just really don’t mesh at all outside your common love of tinkering and working on things like this. Outside of that - you can get along, and do like each other… just not best buddies by any means.
Following up on the practical jokes question, the only time I really felt something a bit beyond "creative friction" or laughs was the Electric Ark. That shock looked like it hurt and seemed like there was a bit of genuine apology needed to you after that. I always appreciated how well the team worked together on things and was greatly saddened when the band moved on. Still, life is change: Keep up the great work and thanks for the many moons of entertaining enlightenment!
According to Adam, that was the producer's idea, and nobody really wanted go through with it. That producer was later canned.
Yes, they still make the original Brylcreem pomade but the name is used as a brand for waxes and gels as well. Certainly in the UK where it originates from anyway.
This was actually one of my favorite things about the Marine Corps. You have someone that you may push each others buttons, or don't particularly get along, but the planes have to be in the air, and when you work together, or come up with an idea of how to do something together, it just always seemed to be more gratifying in the end. It was a good feeling. Unfortunately sometimes it was because you felt like you were overcoming another obstacle by default just working with a jerk. That happened on occasion too.
you were talking about the practical jokes aspect from behind the scenes, and all i could think about was the outtake i saw from the ark of the covenant (insert nervouse laugh).
I loved the differences, and the trade-off back-and-forth. 👍
3:24 Jamie got to high level professional counterstrike player level reaction times at well over what is considered the "prime age range" for reaction times. That is insanely impressive.
Im very happy with the new context given to the "me and Jamie didnt like each other" statement you make sometimes cause I genuinely thought you two didnt like each other lol
Adam, rock’n the “mad scientist” look, nailed it!
I was waiting for the Arduino mention when I heard the question about "Would current technology have made testing some of the myths easier". Nice. Love the platform.
I think the myth of you hating each other has grown out of control, correct me if I'm wrong, but the way I saw it was: you were coworkers, you weren't best friends, but you worked well together
I feel like people here "we were not friends" and somehow interpreted that as they didn't like each other. From what I've seen and heard, they didn't hate each other. I have people I work with who are great people to work with. They are intelligent and creative and when we work together, we bring out the best in each other. But we're not friendly enough, or have enough similarities in personailty, that we would enjoy sharing our free time with each other. I feel like this would describe Adam and Jamie.
I'm rewatching star wars (all of em) and I want to thank you for your contributions. ❤
People confuse not liking someone with disliking someone, these two clearly don't dislike eachother.
I was always personally a bigger fan of your personality, but I appreciate what everyone brang to the table.👍
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"Do you feel God?" Kari Byron
It amazes me when viewers want you and Jamie to be fighting like feral animals. Adults can disagree and just not be all warm and fuzzy with absolutely hating each others. You can’t always be best friends with coworkers. This is part of living as adults. You all were great together whether you were fuzzy or prickly as hell.
Interesting you ask about practical jokes. I always felt that that time Tori shocked Adam, Adam was really pissed off, and they probably had serious words about it off screen, but they just cut away and didn't show it.
From what I’ve read. Tori REALLY didn’t want to do it and was, perhaps urged to do it for content by the producers.
The aftermath lasted for a little longer than shown on film and Adam had to go on a long walk to calm down and make sure there weren’t any serious repercussions on his health.
Again, I think Adam was pissed off but more toward the producers and the resolution between him and Tori is genuine. Adana gone on record to say nothing but wonderful and kind things.
Again again, I read this online so take this with a pinch of salt.
@@JoshuaBatch I was under the impression that Kari was more responsible for getting Tory to use the fence energiser
@@JoshuaBatch Part of me would really like Adam to visit this on this youtube channel, but most of me thinks it should be left by the wayside of history and largely forgotten about.
The Chronicles of Amber are a wonderful set of books and I would Highly recommend that they be read again... As a matter of Fact I will hop onto that now.
Not having chemistry on a personal level doesn't mean that you can't have good chemistry on a professional level if you are both bringing good work ethic and skills to the table in a way where one makes up for the other's shortcomings in a way that just "works". Seeing the very cerebral Jamie contrasting with a big kid like Adam makes me think of the dynamics between Spongebob and Squidward and their personalities have some similarities as well hahaha
Chanel No. 2. I'm putting that one in the memory bank for later use.
It took me a full second to register that after Adam said it. Perfect! 🤣
Holy Moly - I watched two videos and all my youtube recommendations are this. Fine. I'll subscribe.
3:52 I felt that. Especially when he wiped his eye. electrified fence shock comes to mind.
I've always wanted to see Archimedes mirrors done with aluminized plastic sheet and variable air pressure.
I know they had issues with it but surely they could get it to work with enough time.....there are solar farms that essentially already do that where instead of being an array of solar panels its an array of mirrors that focus the sun onto a point in order boil water and they "harvest" the energy from steam power rather than it being directly solar energy.
That Nostromo jacket is KILLER! Just went down a delightful window shopping rabbit hole looking for the green bomber jackets with the laced sleeves
Loved your guys dynamic
Some of the best moments were when either of you semi reluctantly acknowledged the other was right. Great joy.😃
You should talk to Discovery about letting you use clips from the show! I'd love to see the visual aide as you explain things. Love your Content man you were my childhood! I watched the premiere and never looked back!
3:48 [baghdad battery flashback intensifies]
You are the first person I’ve heard reference The Chronicles of Amber since my aunt introduced me to them in the 90’s. I love those books.
I love listening to Adam tell stories. Infectious energy.
And Fart?? Really, people? The hypocrisy of hollywood is off the charts.
The only time I felt a prank or playfulness on the set went wrong is when they did the electric shock arc of the covenant thing with the Bagdad battery and used a real electric fence thing on you. I felt your anger as very genuine in that episode, which I love because it showed the authenticity of the show, because you didn't really run from the negative either.
Kind of reminds of the fallacy of jurisdiction on detective shows. They never actually fight over jurisdiction. In reality if agency A wants jurisdiction agency B will go "you want it, you got it." Why, it takes one more case off of agency B's plate freeing their resources up for something else.
You mentioned how the showrunner sets the collaborative atmosphere but what is the process for denying someone's idea or direction while maintaining that chipper atmosphere? For an extra challenge how about when the crew are volunteers?
I know the subject fascinates people, but it is not uncommon for professionals working at a high level to not be BFF’s outside of work. The Beatles come to mind…
Which is a weird comparison, because the Beatles started by being *very* close to each other, then grew apart because they were growing into adult lives.
Amazing video! thank you so much for the memories. helping your algorithm ;-)
I think MythBusters should be brought back. Always loved that show.
Grant's gone (Jessi too), Jamie has zero interest, and Tory and Kari have their lives.
Bailiwick is one of my favorite words. Just around demesne (in the hierarchy of fun words about your domain).
I remember making sh*% shine as being the ultimate mythbusters competition
Coincidentally, we just watched the "Magic Bullet" episode (talk about an early show!) wherein Jamie and Adam both built an air-gun umbrella assassination device. Jamie tried to make a custom pressure vessel and all that, while Adam just repurposed the innards of a CO2-powered air pistol. Jamie's didn't work so well...
Well if it ain't broke...
Thank you for the reminder that SevenEves has been on my too-read pile for years, and it's about time.
I am inordinately pleased that you like _Chronicles of Amber_ as much as I do! I actually need a new set, as my old one just literally (pun intended) fell apart from usage!
I'm just happy someone else knows Chronicles of Amber
When I tried the MLB fastball speed pitching machine at the batting cages here the 3 (out of 50) I made actual contact with were purely by random chance. All it can do is throw meatballs at an almost standardized speed and predictable trajectory and I still only managed to succeed by accident. I couldn’t even really see it before it was past me.
After that I stopped being critical of players. Even the worst hitter in MLB history is 1000x better than me at hitting a baseball.
I've never liked these kinds of questions that kinda throw wedges between Adam and Jamie. They had a working relationship whilst being two almost completely different people so, hindsight being 20/20, it makes perfect sense that they may not have had the best personal relationship. However, they pushed through it and almost never let it show on camera while putting out media changing television
Love this!!!
Adam when's the mythbusters game coming i've been waiting for what feels like over a year? Any news on how complete it is?
Ah, Adam has nothing to do with the game at all.
Wow, a shout out for Chonicals of Amber? Didn't expect that one today but it's much deserved!