Eight desert riding tips for enduro riders︱Cross Training Enduro
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- www.crosstraini... Great tips for desert riding on enduro bikes! Desert riding. It's quite different to typical enduro riding. This is our first ever ride in Australia's outback, so we figured it was a good time to cover some tips for desert riding. Riding technique. The most important thing is to ride within your limits, and expect the unexpected. Hidden rocks. Soft sand. Unstable rocks. Riding off cliffs. If you are seriously injured, it could be hours before emergency services can reach you in the desert. Imagine a 'worst case' scenario, and ride accordingly. Riding in soft sand. Stand on the footpegs and keep your body weight to the rear. Avoid using the front brake, and slow down by reducing throttle instead. Relax and let the motorbike move around. Don't try to over-control the steering. Riding in sand usually becomes easier with speed. Your wheels ride over the sand instead of sinking into the sand. See our training vid about soft sand techniques. Riding over rocky ground. Your riding technique is quite similar. Stand on the footpegs as much as possible. Your legs act as extra suspension and you can control the motorbike better. Keep your weight to the rear. Keep the front wheel light so it will be deflected less by rocks. Use more rear brake than front brake if traction is poor.
Ride in a higher gear to lower the engine revs. This gives you more control over the motorbike, and lessens the chance of the rear wheel spinning on loose rocks. See our training vid about riding in rocky terrain. Stay out of the dust, as much as possible. This was great advice from our lead rider. One rider ignored this and rode straight into a gully with serious consequences. You want the best vision possible in unpredictable terrain. If you want to stay close to a riding buddy, just ride off their 'rear quarter' and let him know you are there. Motorbike setup. If you use tubes, lower air pressures make a big difference in soft sand riding. But increase your air pressure for rocky terrain to avoid punctures. Thorns can be a big problem in some deserts. Some riders use mousses to remove the issue of punctures. The TUbliss system can make puncture repairs much easier as you can just use tyre plugs. A tyre sealant like Slime is another possibility, although not always 100% reliable. Ultra heavy duty tubes will reduce the chance of punctures a lot. See our video comparing the pros and cons of mousses, tubes and TUbliss. Air filter maintenance. Even if you try to avoid dust, your air filter will probably become dirty rapidly. Maintain it well. Ensure it's fitting properly. Consider using a type of 'sock' over your existing air filter for extra insurance... and easier cleaning. Steg Pegz. These are a great idea for desert riding. The rubber pucks hold your boots in place and it takes a lot of strain off the upper body... perfect when you will be standing on the footpegs a lot. Every motorbike in our group had these fitted. Steering dampers. These are probably a good idea if you spend a lot of time riding desert terrain at high speed. They reduce the amount of handlebar movement in soft sand and rocky terrain. Experienced riders often don't bother fitting steering dampers, especially if they only ride in deserts occasionally. But I must admit it worked well for riding in soft sand at speed. Tyres. There is a huge range of options available. Do your research. However, I think it's worth looking at high-profile front tyres like the Shinko 90/100 'fatty'. However, I think it's worth looking at high-profile front tyres like the Shinko 90/100 'fatty'. It raises the front of your motorbike which provides better stability at speed. It's also a wider tyre so it is more likely to ride on top of soft sand than sink into it. Suspension. Soft sand? It can be worth increasing the compression and rebound damping at the front and rear. You can also increase the 'sag' at the rear for more in-line stability. Rocky terrain? If your motorbike is reacting harshly, try decreasing the damping by a few clicks. Motorbike protection. If you mainly ride in soft sand, you can probably keep your motorbike light and not use too much protective gear. But for rocky terrain, a set of handguards and a good skidplate are your basic minimum. Toolkits and spare parts.
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This video also appeared on our adventure channel last year. Here are some extra tips from Green Grind:
A sling bandage can also double as a torniquet
Remember your route to direct emergency services and landmarks
A Space Blanket to keep someone in shock warm
Painkillers (check for legality and also for blood thinning if an operation is needed)
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Oh yeah what’s this? Dessert racing tips? Saying I can’t ride are ya? I see how it is… Thankyou
@@nothinyaseehere9449 No, you can't, because you're just watching these Vid's... 😀
@@PeterR0035 Bahaha mate I’m going riding Thursday I’ll get it filmed me watching these vids while riding bahahahaha good onya bud 🙂
I’m in the finke!!!! I’m in!!!! Bahahahaha im gonna be the first double amputee!!!! Bahahahahaha oh shit…. Got anymore tips oh wise one? And do you wanna film me racing? At least there be some with a legitimate disability in ya videos… bahahahahaha
New Mexico desert rider here - a couple things to add. Wear lighter colored clothing if you’re riding in warm weather. It’ll help reduce how much heat your clothes absorb from the sun and help to reduce fatigue. Wearing a white helmet vs. a dark helmet makes a WORLD of difference in keeping your brain cool and avoiding heat stroke. Bring plenty of water as well. Have fun out there!
Arizona desert rider here. You beat me to the punch, 💯 agree with everything you said.
NM Desert rider as well. Great tips. I need to get a new helmet and will be going with a white one next time.
I used to absolutely hate the sand. I was on a trip with some big group in Michigan, and couldn’t keep my handlebars from collapsing and wiping out. I was then terrified. I literally couldn’t ride it. End of day one I went back to the lodge, got on RUclips and search bike set up riding in sand. I dropped my forks as low as they could go. Adjusted clickers. Lowered tire pressures. Then had to truly learn how to ride. Berry goes over all this in many videos however, I guess I just glossed over it. My next trip was in Moab for five days, one of which days was dedicated to San dunes. I dreaded the day😩. BUT!! I had more fun in the dunes than any of the other days. I learned how to ride!!! I put on 53 miles that day. Most of the group sat around watching me. The climbs. The high speeds. There was a flat area I remember being 5th gear on the rev limiter while easily turning. Guys. Learn how to ride the sand. Weight back. Leave the front brake alone. Copious amounts of throttle. Viola. Once you figure it out. It’s amazing. We did have paddles. But now anywhere I go that has sand I have zero issue, even on a regular tire. I hope this inspires someone. It’s why I wrote it. Because I used to suck. But now I roost.
Great to hear! I was the same a few decades back. I loathed sand! But a few basic tips, some practice, and suddenly it was great fun.
Don't forget your favorite self pleasure device in your tool kit or emergency kit. Each rider can carry their own and at camp you can compare and exchange as needed.
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Every still had a toy somewhere.
Thats for passing the time while waiting on emergency services to arrive.
Epic! Always wondered what the outback looked like. It appears that there had been some rainfall previous to your visit seeing all the greenery around you. All the information was very well thought out and complete to the best of my knowledge. One minor addendum that could be modestly helpful would be to balance your tires so the transfer sections on the tarmac wouldn't be as uncomfortable. I always carry my Garmin in-reach+ on my person while in the isolated areas just in case a mishap separates me from my bike and I can't get back to it. Love your channel, and your positive attitude! Keep em coming.
Thanks Terry! Good point on the tyre balancing.
I've done a couple riding tours with EveRide in the Utah desert, always the beginner tour, and each ride encountered the dust, sand, unstable rocks, etc. Last ride 2 years ago I had a particularly difficult, but fun time. Can't wait to go again since my riding skills have greatly improved, and I have a more appropriate bike for this type of riding.
Say hi to Tyler for me next time you go, Jim. I'd love to ride with him one day...
Fun to watch, I love the mountains.
Thats the only riding we have in Mt Isa rocks and sand lol love the content guys. Riding in someone's dust is extremely dangerous as a mate found out, rode into a wash out and over the bars he went landed on his head and did serious damage.
Beautiful video - and jam packed full of good advice; what's not to love? 🙂
Glad you enjoyed it Claus!
All good. The terrain in this vid is very similar to what I ride in the desert SW. Very enjoyable but must be prepared.
'lower tire pressure on sand' ; I have Motoz tractionator GPS on the rear and find that there is very little / no difference with the tire inflated vs even completely flat, it's a very sturdy tire.
Isn't the whole lower pressure on sand a myth for MOTORCYCLE tires??
For car tires I completely agree, it makes a big difference; because the side walls are MUCH softer and the tire expands on the road with less pressure.
I crossed the Sahara desert 3 times ; Unimog 4x4 truck, 4x4 car and on a motorcycle and did not really feel much/any difference on the motorcycle tires with less pressure in the tires on sand.
What is your idea?
My family was riding quads out in the desert a few years back my sister decided to drive into the side of the road (the side had gotten built up due to a recent grade) she flipped the quad 180 degrees sideways. She was fine, thankfully, but the bars were bent real bad, after a few more hours of riding we stopped, and she pushed on the bars to get off, and the bars snapped off their mounts, We were able to somehow get them back in place with a wrench and a long fat bolt wedging the handles bars back in position. We were able to limp home, but ever since then, I bring a large long bolt, been pretty useful so far. The best tool kit is seat time because you will never know what you do and don't need until you get in those situations.
Glad she wasn't hurt
last time was riding in the desert, broke my rib on a rock. no phone signal, and on a hill climb, so no rescue was able to come. I mange to walk up the hill for an hour with a help from my friends. until we got to a place where the rescue helicopter could land. my advice, always ride with a friend, and to a remote places take a GPS phone. safe rides...
Glad you survived that one, Daniel. I've been riding in a few remote areas lately and have slowed down when I thought about how long it could take to get the hospital...
Great tips for almost any type of riding. There's always those specialize techniques that just aren't common across all terrain. I'm looking forward to a snow and ice video 😁
I found high pressure tyres are better in sand for higher speeds than usual.. it helps lift the tyres up on top. You want your front tyre just skimming along
My wife compound fractured her humorous on a ride (video of the ride on my channel), and I realized I was lacking a couple things.. First- if your first aid kit doesn’t come with a tourniquet, be sure to add one! I thought to myself I could just use the included “sling” rag as one if needed.. not considering if I needed a tourniquet, I would also most likely need a sling..
2- mindfulness and recovery systems. If you ride solo a lot, or with only one other rider, it’s very important to pay attention and remember your route. If you or your partner is injured and can’t move, you will need to direct emergency services to you. You need to remember identifiable landmarks that can be communicated to someone who’s never been where you are. They may also be relying on you to tell them weather they can make it to you by ground ambulance or air. A gps with an SOS function can take a lot of panic out the equation while you’re trying to react real-time to an emergency.
3- Space Blanket. When someone is injured it’s usual protocol to have them lay on the ground (where it’s coldest) in a stable position and not move. Consider they’ve likely been sweating earlier, may have a loss of blood and likely will experience an adrenaline dump and you have the recipe for a very cold person who’s already hurt. I’ve always thought those blankets were…. I don’t know, some kind of gimmick. But after covering my injured wife with a t shirt and watching her shiver for 45 minutes while we waited for help has made a believer out of me.. They cost nothing and weigh even less, no reason not to carry one.
4- Meds. Not every emergency is what you’d consider a “code red- get to the hospital” situation.. I broke my collar bone at Dumont Dunes a few months back. It was a group trip and we all went in a buddies RV, and I wasn’t about to make everyone pack up and leave the day we got there just because I messed up. Compared to other injuries and broken bones, this one was more tolerable and decided I’d stay another night. I made it just fine, but I can’t tell you what I’d have done to have some kind of pain killer or even just some strong ibuprofen.. You never know what you’ll have to “suck up” and for how long, so best be prepared..
5- If at any point while packing for a ride you use the phrase “I probably won’t need it”, punch yourself in the nuts (or ovaries) and pack said item. Simple advice, really.. BUT, it’s the most important.. You see, the day before my wife broke her arm I had just gotten a new riding bag.. When transferring gear from the old bag to the new one I couldn’t find a good spot for my first-aide kit.. Yup.. “I probably won’t need it” was what I said on the day the person closest to me experienced the worst injury of their lives and had me to depend on… Luckily, I had a tow strap to use as a tourniquet in case she needed and there wasn’t much else I could have done with a kit… but that’s just luck.. Don’t kid yourself, you’re not omnipotent and neither can you “decide” nobody will get hurt any given day..
Anyways, as always thanks for the vids and doing what you guys do! I hope this was somewhat helpful
Glad your wife is fine, I hope she's still riding! All great tips too. I'ved added some to the pinned first comment.
She hasn’t gotten back on it yet sadly :/ but she says maybe one day 🤷♂️
Not so much a desert riding mishap, but a HUGE mishap, nonetheless. I came off in the middle of a forest, and shattered my left leg. It took almost 24 hours to get to an emergency room, and I had to ride about 35 k's, in super hard terrain, to get to any kind of transport out of there.... on one leg,. Super uncomfortable situation, to say the least. I'd have made it back, no matter what, but it's well worth understanding that you may end up in an unfavourable situation, with little help. Yes. It can happen to you, too.
Same here about 15 years ago, Marty. Lower legs shattered in muddy ruts. My riding buddy freaked out so I had to make a splint myself. Thankfully a 4WD came along and I got carted out of there. Bloody painful getting jostled around in his rear tray lol.
I never forget that pink gadget in the suggested pack
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shinguards (the ones that include knee protection) are good out bush - I call mine my "snakebangers"
Carrying a simple tow strap has helped us get KTMs out after their inevitable break downs.
I'm freakin' addicted to your content bro and I'm not even from Australia. I'm from the Philippines.
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@@crosstrainingenduro I didn't even exist in 1986. Where did you go here exactly?
Bagio, Benaui, Sapang Palay, Manila...
@@crosstrainingenduro been to manila couple of times but not to the other places you mentioned. Keep creating the cool vids man. I hope to learn even half the skills you have riding a dirtbike. I'm riding a measly yamaha 125 dual sport as a beginner
Another mint video!
How about a light coloured helmet?
I know my Matt black helmet can get bloody hot..
Good point. We always try to buy white helmets if possible.
If you're riding on two-track, two bikes can ride side by side as if each is on single track. Keeps the group tighter and avoids dust.
That is a long ride for dessert, I don't like to have dry mouth with the buzz of a 300 adding to it. The corner store is only a few blocks away and is always stocked up with Ding-Dongs and chocolate milk.
Hey mate, what jetting is your brother running in the 250 se, I have the same bike and ride in the parts of qld.
Any problems with fouling plugs?
Leanest needle out of the Sherco ones supplied. No fouled plugs. Toowoomba Bits n Bits did the setup.
the most important tip if going into remote outback australia is ride a suzuki so you don't break down and perish.
in a desert crossing sit down as much as possible to conserve energy and water use the bump to bounce you into standing position when necessary. put more weight in your back pack than you would for trail riding so you have more body weight to move around to control your overloaded bike in desert sand.
steering damper and steg pegs no not unless you have issues with a poor handling bike or you can't hang on. you need to be able to move your hips from the fuel cap to the luggage rack in the sand dunes and whoops.
The giant pink vibrator in that advanced toolkit...man what do you kids get into out there in the middle of the desert? Lol
What happens in the outback... stays in the outback 😎
Interesting education videos mate. So, 4wding rocky terrain - less PSI; off road riding rocky terrain - increase PSI. Is that because of speed? Faster on the bike but slower in the 4wd?
Generally it's just avoiding punctures and/or rim damage with the bikes... assuming you are riding aggressively. Our group has TUbliss front and rear, and we tend to do rocky sections slowly so we'll go down to 3 to 5psi. Different if we were racing through.
What is the corner marking system?
A few vids on RUclips about it. Or just google it. It would take too long to explain here in text.
Carry lots of zip ties in your crash pad and a spare master link fitted over throttle cable- that way your not digging through your bag to find them.
A far cry from the notoriously steep Sunshine Coast hinterland
Sorry but you didn’t even mention how adding stickers on your bike AND helmet will add horsepower and stability. How can anyone take this video seriously with some important facts left out. I’ll let my kids watch it but will surely point out this absurdity.
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so true...
My best tip for desert riding, is don't bother.
There's nothing interesting about it - what you are looking at now is the same as what you'll see on the other side, except you'll have less fuel.
Riding in a group is worse, as it just goes to show how people with NFI are susceptible to the suggestion it'll be fun.
You ultimately achieve nothing riding across a desert - I know, as I live next to and near a couple.
I agree with your right to express your own opinion.
I wonder if some deserts are more boring than others? On our outback trip it was surprising how much the terrain and scenery changed throughout the day.
@@crosstrainingenduro Most probably.
The 'desert' definition is based on rainfall, not topographical features. I'm sure there's many areas that are visually spectacular.
My comment and opinion are based purely on my personal experience and preferences; which consists of mountainous terrain with lush forests - so the complete opposite up to this point in time. Moab looks interesting.
@@eljuano28 It would be all one-sided if they removed the _'Add a comment'_ option.
We can't all be fanboys of deserts.
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@@ThrottleAddiction Moab is AMAZING.