Project AP1 S2000: Soft Top Delete, Hardtop and Recaro Install
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- Опубликовано: 21 авг 2024
- Project AP1:
Soft top removal: -65 lbs
Forbidden Double-sided Carbon Hardtop: +33 lbs
Recaro Speed/SRD seats: +8 lbs
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Music Tracks:
"Some Kind of Magic 3"
Niklas Gustavsson
"Houses"
"Hard Sell Mini Remix"
"Flow and Friction"
Ketsa
"When"
Stephan Siebert
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I think you should make a video highlighting things to look for and avoid when buying a used S2000, clearly you will do an excellent job because you are so detailed.
front end frame/suspension damage especially in the AP1s because of the stiffer suspension compared to the Ap2. don't buy one with mods, unless you get it for a good price and be prepared to spend a good chunk of change replacing parts... be wary of low compression and inspect retainers on AP1s for cracks. AP2s have thinker retainers and wouldn't hurt to replace the springs with a little heavier set to reduce your chance of valve float at high Rs.
I never understood people that put a hardtop on an s2000. Unless you regularly track or daily the car in bad weather, it defeats the purpose of having a roadster. However, your case is different in that you have two s2k's. Love the hardtop. It also looks damn amazing. I'm a big fan of your channel. Keep the content rollin'!
Thanks Soren. I will say this, I bought my NA Miata in 2005, so I have had convertibles for the past 12 years. Like most things in life, the novelty does wear off. It's not a big deal for me to do without top down anymore, so all of my convertibles are wearing hardtops at this point lol. Plus, I can still just take the hardtop off if the mood strikes.
Long time watcher, first time poster. I applaud your enthusiasm and slight ocd compared to my own when it comes to cars and getting them fixed up right :) huge rotary guy here as well.
Awesome! Thank you Aaron!
Love the roof, looks fantastic
quinn you that dude man keep killing it
Thanks Clive!
At 9:43 where did you get that piece from. Or it's already there when removing the soft top????
it's the soft top tray
This looks so clean without the seeing the roll bar there. :)
Yeah I am digging having the open space back there!
Wow such a nice clean look
great taste in license free music XD
surprised the recaros weigh more than the stock ones
Thanks Charles. Yeah, the seats alone are about the same weight, but the base plates and sliders are what make them a tad heavier.
Great looking top
One of the main reasons I bought the S2000 is because it’s an awesome convertible. Why would I want to eliminate one of it’s best features?
It's all personal preference. I've had convertibles since 2005, so the top down thing doesn't excite me that much anymore. The S2000 is too heavy for a N/A 2.0 / 2.2 and removing the power top assembly saves substantial weight. So for me, it's an easy decision. Plus the hardtop still comes off if I want to drive with the top down. If you like the power soft top, then don't remove it. Nothing wrong either way.
was thinking the same. my 02 has the glass back soft top and I love it. spend 4k and have to lug the top around instead of just hitting a switch? I rarely like to take it out if its not top down weather.
Cuz after the softtop is worn and got a hole in it, its more of a dead weight and semi anti theft device.
@@TheSlipAngle This. For road car enjoyment in locationswith sun, soft top is great. For competition use removing it is a must for weight savings.
@@anthonyc8157 His is not OEM so it wouldn't be a 4k top. You can get a Mugen style top for around 1.5k
Hey man I don’t know if you still are using your channel, but I would love to know where you found the back pieces for the soft drop delete.
I didn't have to buy anything. I re-used all the OEM stuff.
Thanks Quinn, just removed my softtop
Nice!
Clean execution and nice collection! I want to install a hard top, but don’t want to lose the soft top. Also, do you recommend any installation kit?
Poor soft top it never hurt anybody. RIP
lol
I'm about to do a soft top delete and hardtop install myself. Anything I should look out for? I don't want to run into a situation where a hardtop can't be installed because I had to remove or alter a part during the soft top delete. Any help is appreciated and keep up the good content!
Two things, make sure you pay attention to the orientation of running the seat belts through the roll hoops and plastics before bolting them back in. If you mess that up, you have to remove all of the plastics again. Second, by removing the motors and brackets, you lose a threaded receiver in the softop motor bracket for the hardtop brackets. However, since you are still passing the bolt through metal of the chassis, I just added a nut onto the back of it to snug that one hole to the body of the car.
nice work there
Thanks man!
Thank you CQM. I could not have removed my soft top without the aid of this video. I slowed it down to 1/4 speed and it was almost like real time. One question. I purchased a Forbidden USA, Mugen style, fiberglass top with the standard mounts. Where are the mounting points for the brackets? I'm at a loss.
You're welcome. It mounts at the windshield where the factory soft top brackets mount as well as on the side behind the seats. I did an install video a while back: ruclips.net/user/edit?o=U&video_id=ybrbHEhWn-w
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Hey Quinn. I’m planning on removing my soft top and replacing it with a carbon top. My question is, if I keep my factory seats, will it still take 8hrs to complete? I noticed you probably didn’t need to remove the plastic hoops and glove to remove the top. It didn’t seem to be in the way of anything.
Results will vary. I think I had to remove the hoop plastics to get the motors out but maybe I didn't have to. This was done 6 years ago so my memory is a little hazy
Any issues with the hardtop fitment? I'm looking to pick one up but am worried about squeaking and wind noise.
me too i keep my soft top down every chance i get cause i hates the noises lol
Fitment was very good. It did squeak and creak a good amount, but I took some measures to quiet it down and it made a big improvement. I will be releasing a video on this shortly.
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Nice work! Are the seats comfortable? I'm due to replace the worn driver's seat in my 02 AP1 (180 000km!). I want a solid sports seat but one that doesn't beat me up too bad on the daily... Thanks! Keep up the great videos!
Thanks Brad. The seats are pretty good for a daily. The bolsters are more aggressive and are a little more work to get in and out of. The head rests on these are also pretty stiff so if you like to rest your head back that might be an issue as well.
Thanks! I really appreciate the info. I'll keep that in mind!
Bravo 👏
Thanks!
Thanks for responding. Unfortunately, I can't open the link. I think I lost the mounting points behind the seat when I removed the soft top and it's associated frame/hardware. That's where I'm stuck. I appreciate your videos. I'm learning a bunch.
Oh yes, you are correct. You have to remove the side plates from the top assembly and bolt them to the car. You will also have to use a bolt and a nut to help hold those plates back to the body again because they originally threaded into the top assembly. They are body colored pieces if I remember correctly.
Ah...The missing link. Thanks so much.
Anytime!
Found the solution through Izzy's Custom Cages. I needed the race brackets for the rear.
Aftermarket should make one for the new Z4. Since BMW isnt making a Z4M Coupe with the S58 engine.
Nice weight reduction measure. Are you thinking about a roll bar, or do you pass the broomstick test in the recaros ?
I can pass the broomstick test. If the S2000 wasn't so damn heavy I would consider a roll bar because I like the additional safety and chassis rigidity benefits of them but any of the weight saving measures I have implemented so far would pretty much be diminished with the addition of a roll bar.
Awesome. Maybe I need to try those seats and see if I pass. I hate the idea of cutting into the car, but want to take it out to some bigger tracks. Also very curious about how much noise the hardtop produces and the measures you take to improve it. You pretty happy with the quality of the forbidden top?
Are these the recaro sr5 speed chairs ? nice video m8 !
These are SR3/Speeds, but I think the SR5 is the same style as well.
don't know if the real Mugen hardtop has that big gap on the rear deck trunk area between the top and the painted surface of the car but I can't stand that when I see that Gap it would drive me crazy and that's one of the reasons that I'm leaning towards OEM
I've seen big gaps there on cheaper tops, but I think this top's gap is pretty flush. Maybe it just looks bigger in the video, but in person it's pretty good.
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Yup!
Why is this hard top forbidden ? I do not live anywhere near the USA , so that's why i'm asking.
michelinov its the people/shop that makes them like a brand.
Thanks ChubbyCheeks. Yes, Forbidden USA is the brand of hardtop.
What rails did you guys use? Also, did the seats sit lower or the same as the Orem seating position? Ahh I have so many questions :/
Hey bud, I literally moved the seat setup over from my AP2. The complete details for everything I used to make these seats fit can be found in this video and yes they do sit a little lower: ruclips.net/video/JHCT56vXkWo/видео.html
Inspired by you in the UK, have got OEM hardtop and want to delete. Can you share with me the thread for deletion?
This was done years ago. Pretty sure there are good writeups on sk2i.com
Great video...sorry about your poor taste in music
Do you know if there's a way to disable the soft function if you're just putting a hard top on rather than removing the soft top altogether, I know there's a fuse you can pull to allow it to go up and down while the car is moving. I wonder if there's a fuse you can pull that disables the retraction button?
You can run the soft top in full function in conjunction with a hard top. I removed it merely for the weight savings.
Did the hardtop come with a bracket where I could use the factory clip to latch the front without having to take it off and install to the hardtop? I’m not planning to remove my softtop by just adding the hardtop and if I decide to use the softtop, I only need to remove the hardtop and still be able to use the softtop and latch if necessary. Please advise if a separate latch is needed for the hardtop? I’m looking at the forbidden mugen style top
They allow the use of the factory latches but I wasn't confident they would secure it properly at higher speeds, so I went with the bolt in brackets.
Not a fan of this hard top cause it has that huge ass blind spot on the sides.
It's not too bad if you are used to using your mirrors all the time anyways.
Better than the softop
How heavy is the hardtop?
How heavy was the soft top?
How much weight did you loss?
Philip Zettna / 56-31=25😷
this is off topic but what coil packs do you run mine is in need of new ones i always ran oem wondered what you run and if oem do you run ap1 or the cheaper ap2 ones thanks
I am still using my OEM AP1 coils. I haven't had any issues with them yet. I am not sure what the differences are between AP1 and AP2, if any.
What is the name of the box you installed instead of having the soft top retract back? I am looking everywhere online and cannot find it! :(
What box are you referring to? Can you link the time in the video and I'll try to help you out?
Is it possible to do this with an eclipse?
Hey I have a question for you who is the artist that is playing the last song on you Video? I can't find it anywhere.
Songs are in the description
I wonder to know if this carbon fibre intake is any good and if it makes any prooven power gains?
The intake definitely helps top end power with the ram air effect. Removing the snorkel there is a noticeable difference.
Quinn, any issue of wind lift of Mugen replica going at 80Mph+? How do you resolve?
I got wind noise at over 120 mph through the front seal so I switched to fixed latches vs the stocks, but nothing in the rear. I really cranked the rear latches down.
What shift knob is this ? Looks very minimal and almost OEM
Heel-Toe Automotive
Where do you get that cover at 9:54 ?
Hey, do you by any chance know how much weight the whole thing saved? Thx in advance
65 lbs for the entire assembly.
@@TheSlipAngle thx
Yaaaas
Yessss
Garage Quinn Motors bruh please do a giveaway on one of your cars😂
MOO-gen!!! don't take my word for it:
ruclips.net/video/S6xcdTfq_Q8/видео.html
informative vid tho. looking forward to doing this to my AP1 also
LOL. The Tein suspension once gets me all the time too. I say "teens" but I think it's really pronounced like "tains" haha
what rails did you use for the recaros?
I go over the whole setup and install in this video: ruclips.net/video/JHCT56vXkWo/видео.html
Where do you buy the hard top?
Forbidden USA
dude the music sucks anyways awesome car =D
what about the motor to move soft top up and down? did you also take that out?
There are two motors, one on each side and yes I got rid of those too. You can see them dangling when I pulled the whole assembly out.
What wheels are those?
Advan RG-II
I would never do that to my s2k...never!
So don't?
Said that last year and mine came off 2 wks ago
so this guy just buys convertible cars.. just to make them not convertible anymore..?
Apparently. Is that okay?
@@TheSlipAngle you should buy a regular car then make it a convertible and then make that one a hard top too
@@joshuasantiago6069 I also own an RX-8, two FD RX-7s and a Z4M Coupe. Does that count?
@@TheSlipAngle how often do they leave the garage?