Why Did My Ceiling Turn YELLOW?
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- Why did my ceiling turn yellow on this is a textured ceiling that I skim coated over? Let me know in the comment why you think this ceiling turned yellow? Thanks so much for watching and subscribing! -Paul
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I have been doing drywall finishing for years that yellowing is very common on old sheetrock . The sheet rock paper turns brown and when you apply paint or mud the yellow bleeds through, the best remedy is to use oil based primer or Shellac primer the yellow can bleed through latex primer over time. I have seen it worse in a smokers house and rooms that have a wood burning fireplace.
thank you, this helped me
Does this mean there’s moisture in that old drywall? Is it still safe to continue skimming and then painting etc?
@@austinleblanc8735 It almost always turns brown with age, when your skimming if the sheetrock still feels sturdy, and you can tell when your applying you skim coat. Just use a oil based primer I prefer Zinsser Cover Stain primer it is made for covering stains and does a great job, just make sure you don't use latex primer it will bleed through latex primer sealer. Good luck I have done hundreds of those ceilings' over the years.
Hey Paul. My dad and I were one of the ones spraying that stuff in the 70s, and in my area it’s pretty prevalent and I removed around 500 popcorn ceilings and re textured them and have never seen that happen unless it was due to a smoker in the room like others are saying. So I’ve never seen it either.
Yup I think you're 100 percent correct. I did two skim coats on the ceiling I mentioned previously and the ceiling looks exactly like this one in your video. 😉🤦♀
Watched you repair a ceiling hole. That was awesome and fairly easy. I inherited 2 small rental older houses , one is brick and one is wood, a rental mobile and an acre and a half of property. My prior experience was light yard work, and just small repairs, painting, etc. After getting divorced and moving back to the town where these rentals are I have been faced with just about any repair, replace, remodel, yard work you could think of. I learned right off that having quality tools and the correct tools are critical. Armed with You Tube and repair books for every thing I have been slowly getting things done and learning along the way. It seems any job I do there is always some kind of hang up. OMG !! Just found your channel so I'll be spending a lot more time here and on the electrical guys channel. Getting a visual of the process really helps. I decided to start tackling these jobs myself after hiring for the jobs and ending up with crap that I paid way too much for and ended up redoing it myself.
I just had this happen yesterday with a new paint job on a textured ceiling. The flat spots slightly yellowed and the texture areas remained white. There was no yellowing prior to the painting. It is not smoke or water. Definitely a chemical reaction of some kind. A quick google search indicated
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Interesting. Well, I do know that priming the ceiling with Kilz oil base primer made all of the yellow disappear. 👍🏻 Here’s the video: ruclips.net/video/D6oIz8nVg9Q/видео.html Keep me posted on your ceiling and any other information you might find on this. I really appreciate you watching and commenting about your findings. -Paul
Thank you! Same issue. Stains started to appear after about 3 weeks. It was done professionally so hoping that the painter will be back to fix with a primer!
I just discovered this same issue on one ceiling in my new house. I've been skim coating walls and ceilings all over and only this ceiling turned yellow. Luckily I only did one small patch spot before I discovered it, so I thought I'd use Kilz before continuing. Hope that works 🤞🤞
Quick update: after repainting the ceiling, no more issue :) (They didn't use Kilz initially and ceiling was old)
Thanks for posting - I think I'm having the same issue in our ~100yr home. I think the yellow may also come from bituminous sealants. I found this gross stuff while pulling some electrical earlier, and it totally gunked up my spade bit. It was all over the header plate/joist, and I think seeped into the ceiling near the edge by the walls.
That’s it very common on old drywall and the dirt that sits with the insulation when you add moisture it will cause it to show true the drywall. awesome job 👍
The thing is that that the painted white ceiling looked fine before I skim coated it. Thoughts? -Paul
@@PaulPeck drywall compound and Sheetrock retains more moisture then paint that’s why if you paint it you will not get does spots, but when you add compound you will specially if the house it’s a few years old 😃
Smoke is the most common reason . I live and work in the Rockies average 7500ft elv and wood stoves are used used almost every household . So every time i wash the walls and ceilings first just to aviod this . But I use alot of your tips so I hope this helps a bit .
Yeah there is a fireplace in this home. But would the tape joints stay white? The painted ceiling looked fine before I skim coated it. Thoughts? Thanks for watching and commenting Terry! -Paul
@@PaulPeck Try dawn dish soap when thinning mud . I ise about a tea spoon with one box of mud and a cheap water based primer first skim coat and should do the trick hope ithelps .
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@@davetrayford The smoke sticks to anything almost and causes stains along of the time .
Possibly nicotine? From the older previous residents who smoked. My dad smoked like a chimney for years and after we painted our old house with white paint it turned yellow. The nicotine soaked through the drywall over the years. Just my experience.
Really enjoyed your videos. I need to first scrape and then lightly sand my unpainted popcorn ceiling in my 1966 house. I planned to let drywall professionals take it from there, but you seem to encourage a slightly ambitious DIY person to give it a try. I'm still a bit chicken so I'll first check how much it would cost. If it's crazy expensive (90% chance it will be as I live in the SF Bay Area... in the hills no less!) then I'll do one of the smaller bedrooms first.
Thank you Donald!👍🏻 I would get that popcorn tested for asbestos first before doing any scraping.
I’ve seen that a lot. I like to prime them with shellac and I have great results. I don’t like to take risks
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When I skim ceiling i transfer my mud into a tall 18 inch pail and run the 18 to save time. Works well with thin mud. I been taping and finishing for 6 years. You can hold a candle to it and see perfection love the channel.
There's something about using the usg compound 3 that causes this. It only happens when it's patching something out. Idk why either.
When you coat wet on old you will pull dirt out of the ceiling..they age and get dirty...just needs a good primer /sealer and then some good paint
Painter here...Great upload man!
That happens. Just use a good primer before you paint.
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That won’t work I used 3 coats of grade A primer
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I just did one that did exactly the same thing and you could still faintly see it after painting. It also previously had popcorn. I didn't skim the entire ceiling as it was a garage.
I am DYI so what I did was use a small amount of water on a heavy texture ceiling. I testing in 3 area for Asbestos before scraping. I masked up in respirator I left paint under compound alone, some came off with compound but the wetting was what helped keep it from. This yellowing is showing up through as I all skim coating it. I used a little hot mud 20min in on small crack I got prior to it did not show up there. I can run out skim again with 45min. Yet I really just want to roll and put a simple text up. Simple 😊 so what did you end up doing to get stain from nothing coming through. Should I texture, then prime and paint.
Reindeer pizz is my guess! 🤷♂️
Probably wasn’t primed first....good video...happy thanksgiving
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Just done a whole house 7 ceilings where I scraped off all the popcorn then replastered… I’m from the U.K. where we us British gypsum plaster …. 2 weeks later all yellowing to a certain degree. I have no real clue other than it’s definitely a reaction to the popcorn artex
Also is that thinly mixed jointing compound your layering over that ceiling ? After you’ve ‘knifed it down’ do you rub it down ?
I did the paint roller and 14 inch taping knife and I got some cracking (too thick), and some weird skittering (knife too light maybe?). Not sure what caused it, but it was annoying. Also, if you remove popcorn, police the perimeter of the room to make sure you got ALL the popcorn, lest it drag through your mud and leave trenches.
....prior water damage will make it yellow, it will keep coming through unless you hit it with oil based primer...good luck.
High iron content in the water?
Yellow, not red.
Following. I have same issue. I scraped the roll on ceiling last week after I put compound on ceiling it was yellow when it dried
Willing to bet it was a smokers house.. killz works fantastic as a stain hiding primer. My house was a smokers... Had to do the entire house with it. The oil based stuff is a nightmare for smell as expected but the water based is no different in smell than any latex. I'm no expert by any means, but that's just my experience with stains.
Definitely will be using Kilz oil on it! 👍🏻
was the previous owners smokers? Ive seen this happen when anything wet comes into contact with paint that was either cleaned or painted over from smoke staining. The color of the cigarette smoke bleeds through.
Not sure about previous owner smoking Thomas. But there is a fireplace in this home too. -Paul
@@PaulPeck that for sure will cause that same problem
You might need a layer of stain blocker like Kilz
I suppose the remedy would be simply to prime the ceiling with stain blocking paint after you texture it, right?
You are very very good at your job. I wish I could do this half as good as your doing.
I just had this happen yesterday with a new paint job on a textured ceiling. The flat spots slightly yellowed and the texture areas remained white. There was no yellowing prior to the painting. It is not smoke or water. Definitely a chemical reaction of some kind. A quick google search indicated
Possible either water damage (not likely, water is generally more brown. I’m a restoration worker, water/fire/sewage) but looks chem based, water in the mud brings out the color. Killz or a good primer (probably not water based, since water might be an issue) Id grab killz since you can’t positively identify what the issue is, and killz the spots.
Should prime it at least one coat before mud. Then again after & paint. That stuff is like chalk.
Im sealing ( roman pro 999) the popcorn then skim coat- then seal/primer and paint- hoping to avoid any discoloring and or lifting of the popcorn🤞
Hey Paul, when you applied the first coat did you have lines and or some areas that had some small dips? If so do you recommend a light sand before applying the second coat? Finally do you sand at all on the second coat?
So a skin coat of white will fix this then? Cause I just had this happen.
Just removed asbestos pop corn on my dinning room ceiling . Three days later we moved a light fixture to the center of the ceiling and when I went to patch up the cuts we made. The seams of the new drywall turned yellow. I think your theory may be right. But wanted to know id you have found more info. I got worried at first. Its been two days and seams at joints are still yellow.
DIY MY living room ceiling. Must pull old plaster & lathe off & do drywall ceiling. I'm gonna learn skim coating! Done plenty of drywall & carpentry years ago.
You can also use spray can of Kilz number two
Oh that is before you roll it let it dry and then roll your texture
thanks for uploading this, i had this same issue
what was the debate? ??
Could it be the water your useing or is the house humid or damp .
Hey thanks for the video I'm doing the house right now and it's doing the same thing and it had a fireplace and area so we covered that up I went and textured the ceilings it turned yellow on Old sheetrock replaced the new sheetrock I put new sheetrock up and it didn't turn yellow so it is definitely from fireplace or smoke from a fireplace
I do a lot of repairs and remodels like you, Small drywall contracted. You should do more longer videos Also follow you on Instagram too
I feel that when they removed the popcorn, they over wet which wicked the dusty insulation to the surface then they used a thick dryer knock down. So now when you put your mud on it and it was drying, it pulled the stains from the drywall to the surface. That or raccoons peeing in the attic. ":)~
What do you do before you start if there is a water stain on the ceiling?
What is the best ceiling paint to use especially if you a DYI guy ?
The only thing I can come up with is under lying moisture on the attic side of the drywall that has never fully dried and maybe never will unless you use a dryer of some sort, considering the attic side is so hot up there. This is just my theory... I'm a construction laborer and I work for a fella. Paint and drywall is our main bread and butter.
I don’t think that’s it. I didn’t have the issue until I textured the ceiling again and painted. Looks like a proper primer wasn’t used.
Cool and useful drywall video.
Thank for sharing this content idol..love this job
You need to use primer ...
Mabey from heavy smoking in the past ?
I need this guy to do skim coat over my texture ceilings
Where are you located?
I don’t like my texture ceiling any longer. I do want someone to skim coat and then paint the ceiling. I reside in Md . Do you know someone like you that does that work?
Great job man you got skills
Moisture brother before u paint shoot kilz
I definitely will being using Kilz oil base stain blocking primer on this ceiling. Weird thing is the painted ceiling looked fine before I skim coated it? -Paul
how long do you wait for the skimcoat to dry proceeding to the second phase of skim coating ?
you really made that look so much better! can't wait to watch more videos to fix a couple walls and ceilings!!
Have to use oil based primer if smoking was done in the room.
I am am not a professional but I would go over it with Zisser GARDZ
Hello Mr Fix-it!
That looks like something I could do in my bathroom except biggest surface to Smith is around the ceiling light.
Former friend loved steamy showers. Well my mobile home couldn’t deal with the moisture and ceiling application (wasn’t popcorn) began to peel and even fall around the light.
Any thoughts?
Sounds like the ceiling wasn’t primed before it was textured. Also, is there an exhaust fan in that bathroom? Thanks for watching and commenting Marilyn! -Paul
Do you have a link to the exact mud your using.
Possible iron in the water is it a well water
Just prime it with pro block and paint. It will go away. That's from moisture it obviously isn't too compromised or you'd be able to put a finger through it. I'm willing to bet there's no vapor barrier.
The painted white ceiling looked fine before I skimmed over it. How’s that? Thanks for watching and commenting Chad!
What size and kind of roller plz?
Oh wow thats crazy 😳
Probably have to paint at least 3xs possibly color change the whole room
Super moisture bro
But the painted ceiling was perfectly white before I skim coated it? Thoughts?
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People would say its a chemical reaction but I doubt that would be the case with the many ceiling you’ve done using the same mudd amd materials 🤔
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Green top mudd is kinda yellow what are you using
Hi, we recently did our ceiling and the joints turned yellow. We used primer and applied 3 coats of paint aswell but it’s still yellow.. any suggestions how to fix it ?
Use bin primer and paint.
If the residents were smokers or if there was a fire it could possibly be from that. I had one a few years ago that yellowed after I skim coated. Turns out the previous owners were long term smokers and the current owners spent quite a bit of time and money getting the stale smoke smell out of the house.
I skimmed out a 3 bedroom home after removing popcorn and the old aged drywall which had never been sealed to begin with was just orange looking.I gardz entire sealings overall to provide solid base for skim applications followed up with synthetic Bin primer to reduce odor and kill stains then topcoated
smooth mirror like ceilings with ceiling paints.Goi g on a year and still no bleed through whatsoever.
It’s possible. But, there’s no smoke smell and the painted ceiling looked fine before I skim coated it. Also, I wouldn’t think that the tape joints would stay white? Thoughts? Thanks for watching and your comment Caleb.
@@johnturner2146 Good information. I appreciate that John!👍🏻
The job I was preferring too they werent smokers either.House changed hands but werent chain smokers.New owners or old.
Doing this now to my home. Nobody is going to overcharge me!
Someone told me before that was caused by mildew
is there iron in the water?
It city water. So I really don’t think there isn’t that much iron in it like there would be in well water. I appreciate your comment Tom! 👍🏻
Owner probably knew just don't tell you troubleshooting 👍🏿
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I always thought it was nicotine from smokers.
DYI
Rusty blades water damage humidity trapped underneath the pop
Must have been serious water damage prior before you😳
Possible cigarette smoke. I would Oil base Kilz it before painting.
That’s exactly what I did.👍🏻 Here’s the video: ruclips.net/video/D6oIz8nVg9Q/видео.html
like yellow snow. but i know how that happens...
Paint, drywall repairs and plaster.
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That will definitely make the yellow stains go away! 👍🏻
2 coats of a good primer
Yep a good oil base stain blocking primer! 👍🏻
You do not have to smoke to get yellow..they all age with time..
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Water stains
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I would guess smokers lived there.
If you paint with kilz or bin primer would that seal it and hide the yellow?
Yes. I’m going to prime it with Kilz oil base stain blocking primer before I paint it. 👍🏻
Not sure if the previous homeowners smoked or not Shawn.
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Could it just be old paint showing through the thinner parts of the mud?
I'm going to agree with smoke or iron. I'm a new contractor.
Ima dyi’er repairing a damaged ceiling for the first time
your theory is correct, old drywall turns yellow if left uncoated because gypsum absorbs moisture like crazy and hold it - basically it turns into a huge water stain but not from an active leak in a roof but simply from the moisture in the air. If it was an old popcorn ceiling it would have turned yellow by sucking the moisture out of the popcorn - whoever did the popcorn prolly didnt prime well before texture (one of the many problems that not priming before texture can cause) so then the water in your new texture or if you primed first the water in the primer sucked that stain right through to your finish. Now you have to treat it like its a giant water stain. - fyi 27 years of being a rep at sw, and ppg. I have seen 59 million drywall problems give or take 2 million.
Please help me how did you fix this ??? They removed pop corn ceiling in my home and now is yellow 😭 the guys says he doesn’t know how to fix it but I need help cause I’m paying for this to be done to just look yellow
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Cig smoke. Happened to me. It bleeds through.