I think 99% of the watchers believed that Giel had Andrea and they were really surprised by the result...from the live stream, Giel looked much stronger in that heat...but it is not Andrea to blame...I only think that the judges should get their head straight on what they wnat to watch...cause Andrea hasn't been scored high all year long and now he managed to take out Giel on one of his best days...in cold hawaii Cohan, recovering from an injury, took Andrea's out focusing on low kite angles...there is a bit of discrepancy and I feel for Giel, who really put on a great show on marginal wind
Lorenzo clearly won . + kite angles, + blind landings, + heights in the whole heats,+ tot. points, -- crashes, +++ Style. BUT...Like last year kota, the judges always have "special eyes" for Andrea only. Why ???? Last year Lorenzo was clearly robbed for the 90% of the world out there. This year this happened with Giel. And again with Lorenzo in final. Yes they were nearest that last year, but you cannot give a victory "cause of more horizontal travel distance of Andrea" when during skipper meeting you have asked clearly free fall and kite angles... 2 titles in a row robbed to Lorenzo is something that put dark shadows about the transparency of Kota. There are too many $$ interests under to allow the deserved win to Harlem😪
The winner are the judges ! For the 2nd year in a row noone undsterdoot why Lorenzo lost, why Giel didn't advanced against Andrea, why the overall impression score is still something than not 1 rider is able to descirbe. I stopped to think this sport is clean.
@5:08 just remember, human eyes are far more light sensitive than cameras are. Could look a lot darker on camera than it feels in real life. (wait a second, were you there in person maybe?)
The title of the video suggests that the content will analyze whether another rider should have won. It infers that another rider SHOULD have won. But the video does not actually claim or address that. Is it phrased that way so more people will watch it?
For me is clear that watching Giel and Lorenzo heats that Andrea had, also this year, the favours of the judges. I can't say if this is psychological subjection , cause last year Andrea won all, but his year Lorenzo won quite all, so i don't think. When the things goes so strange someone say its always just about money.
@@kitegoofy Height counts only when there is extremity. The kite angles of Lorenzo, free fall, were always better than Andrea's ones during all the event. Also, if you search for a better kite angle you are giving up to the last few meters of height, exactly cause if you launch the loop at the top doesnt go down. So it's "obious" that when you go lower kite angle you sacrifices the 2-3 mt more that Andrea didnt cause was lower kite angles...
being there live, i think the final could have gone either's way, but andrea was going slightly bigger and more extreme than lorenzo in the final. i've seen multiple people argue that giel was robbed against andrea. for sure when watching live it felt like that heat could also have gone either's way (a friend i was with thought andrea was sadly out) but i don't think that it was a real "robbery". stijn vs jamie for example was absolutely clear that stijn was supposed to win, as he was going much bigger than jamie. maybe giel's riding style makes his tricks look less extreme.
Interesting thoughts thanks for sharing 🫶o think Andrea went higher then everyone and that’s the key to winning the event right ? For example Kevin back in the days… he did not have had the creates kite angle or technical tricks, but he won it by going the highest !!
No. Lorenzo was muuuch better. Not only in this final, also during all this event and during all the 2024 year. Is not a case he beated Andrea the last 4 times. But "strangly" when we arrive to Kota , judges always have a very "Special" treatment when Andrea lands and he celebrates as if he had landed the best trick in the world with the kite angle of a downloop. Sad. I would say last year was even worse than this year, but also this year is clear Lorenzo is really being heavily penalised. Last year could be a judges mistakes, but whan it happens for 2 yrs in a row, i stop to believe this is a mistake. Very sad
Interesting! Thanks for sharing !!! I actually thought about it a lot with the celebration of the tricks and I think it really could have made the 0. Something difference that let Andrea win over Lorenzo
Would be interesting to see what happened if they would host the event every year in a different location. Or even do it as the Mega loop by only calling it when the wind is super strong
No ! Lorenzo penalised once agin after last year! And this year the robbed towards Giel to confirm how when is about Kota judges always have differents eyes for Duotone🤮
Useless discussion ….. it is like it is ….. Andrea won again this year ….. every sport regulated by judges is like that….. I love sports with no judges. The fastest is the winner. Very fair very easy .
I think 99% of the watchers believed that Giel had Andrea and they were really surprised by the result...from the live stream, Giel looked much stronger in that heat...but it is not Andrea to blame...I only think that the judges should get their head straight on what they wnat to watch...cause Andrea hasn't been scored high all year long and now he managed to take out Giel on one of his best days...in cold hawaii Cohan, recovering from an injury, took Andrea's out focusing on low kite angles...there is a bit of discrepancy and I feel for Giel, who really put on a great show on marginal wind
I agree ! O got some ideas for that to make judging more transparent so stay tuned 😏
And I do feel for Giel too !!
Lorenzo clearly won . + kite angles, + blind landings, + heights in the whole heats,+ tot. points, -- crashes, +++ Style. BUT...Like last year kota, the judges always have "special eyes" for Andrea only. Why ???? Last year Lorenzo was clearly robbed for the 90% of the world out there. This year this happened with Giel. And again with Lorenzo in final. Yes they were nearest that last year, but you cannot give a victory "cause of more horizontal travel distance of Andrea" when during skipper meeting you have asked clearly free fall and kite angles... 2 titles in a row robbed to Lorenzo is something that put dark shadows about the transparency of Kota. There are too many $$ interests under to allow the deserved win to Harlem😪
Interesting! Thanks for sharing your opinion ! O need to think a bit more about it in detail but good points
I agree either could have won the final but Giel should have won over Andrea then Lorenzo would have won the final for sure
Interesting thought 🤔🤔
agree
Giel got robbed... like i said before... and for the second time its like when u scream u get more points...
Also agree. Eye test Giel won that heat no question.
Nice videos man! Keep it up
Thanks a lot !!!
Geile Videos! Finde die inhaltlich sehr stark!
Thanks a lot !!!
The winner are the judges ! For the 2nd year in a row noone undsterdoot why Lorenzo lost, why Giel didn't advanced against Andrea, why the overall impression score is still something than not 1 rider is able to descirbe. I stopped to think this sport is clean.
I think from the comments I can say…. That it is a common problem 😉
haha 🥲😛
Liking your content mate...... happy to subscribe and get more!
Thanks a lot !! Appreciated 🫶
@@kitegoofy not joking. Well presented, light hearted but insightful.... good luck with the channel
@5:08 just remember, human eyes are far more light sensitive than cameras are. Could look a lot darker on camera than it feels in real life. (wait a second, were you there in person maybe?)
That’s very true!! They have seen more than the cameras for sure ! But it still must have been super hard to ride o guess 😅😂
The title of the video suggests that the content will analyze whether another rider should have won. It infers that another rider SHOULD have won. But the video does not actually claim or address that. Is it phrased that way so more people will watch it?
That is 100% correct !
I said in the video, that either Andrea or Lorenzo would have been a deserved winner. Clear answer to the Titel 😉
For me is clear that watching Giel and Lorenzo heats that Andrea had, also this year, the favours of the judges. I can't say if this is psychological subjection , cause last year Andrea won all, but his year Lorenzo won quite all, so i don't think. When the things goes so strange someone say its always just about money.
Interesting!! I would have love to see it love !! To actually see the difference in height 🤗
@@kitegoofy Height counts only when there is extremity. The kite angles of Lorenzo, free fall, were always better than Andrea's ones during all the event. Also, if you search for a better kite angle you are giving up to the last few meters of height, exactly cause if you launch the loop at the top doesnt go down. So it's "obious" that when you go lower kite angle you sacrifices the 2-3 mt more that Andrea didnt cause was lower kite angles...
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being there live, i think the final could have gone either's way, but andrea was going slightly bigger and more extreme than lorenzo in the final.
i've seen multiple people argue that giel was robbed against andrea. for sure when watching live it felt like that heat could also have gone either's way (a friend i was with thought andrea was sadly out) but i don't think that it was a real "robbery". stijn vs jamie for example was absolutely clear that stijn was supposed to win, as he was going much bigger than jamie. maybe giel's riding style makes his tricks look less extreme.
Interesting thoughts thanks for sharing 🫶o think Andrea went higher then everyone and that’s the key to winning the event right ?
For example Kevin back in the days… he did not have had the creates kite angle or technical tricks, but he won it by going the highest !!
No. Lorenzo was muuuch better. Not only in this final, also during all this event and during all the 2024 year. Is not a case he beated Andrea the last 4 times. But "strangly" when we arrive to Kota , judges always have a very "Special" treatment when Andrea lands and he celebrates as if he had landed the best trick in the world with the kite angle of a downloop. Sad. I would say last year was even worse than this year, but also this year is clear Lorenzo is really being heavily penalised. Last year could be a judges mistakes, but whan it happens for 2 yrs in a row, i stop to believe this is a mistake. Very sad
Interesting! Thanks for sharing !!! I actually thought about it a lot with the celebration of the tricks and I think it really could have made the 0. Something difference that let Andrea win over Lorenzo
I really think they need to move the event to maintain extreme factor. It's not that windy here
Would be interesting to see what happened if they would host the event every year in a different location. Or even do it as the Mega loop by only calling it when the wind is super strong
Giel was underscored, Andrea should not have made the final
He always is 🥹
You will catch kevin in subs
Haha let’s goooo that’s the goal
Die hätten das final auch am Montag in Pelze machen können 😂
Hahahaha 😂😂😂😂
No ! Lorenzo penalised once agin after last year! And this year the robbed towards Giel to confirm how when is about Kota judges always have differents eyes for Duotone🤮
Would be interesting to have a livestream from
The insight if the judging tower too :D
I was there to watch. From live lorenzo was much better than andrea . Judges like last year have always Andrea to favour. Bad
I would have loved to see it live to have my own opinion :((((
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Haha ey ey ey nichts gegen den Bart 😂😂😂
the best rider won
Hehe
Useless discussion ….. it is like it is ….. Andrea won again this year ….. every sport regulated by judges is like that….. I love sports with no judges. The fastest is the winner. Very fair very easy .
Hmmm don’t you think in every sports judges have the last word ?
Are you german?
Could he 😉
@@kitegoofy Only germans speak this kind of gibbish englizzz
Heee don't blame us Germans..
@@tomschuelke7955 We actually thank Habeck for exploiting the german economy. If you know him, tell him thank you!
YES. BEST RIDER WON.
Agree 😉although Lorenzo could have taken the win too
It literally wasn't epic. You sound like the commentators. Trying to make a gale from a fart.
I think it was ! We should start being excited about these conditions as well! It’s not always 35+ knots
It was entertaining… barely. But epic? Nope. Agreed it was not. 🤙