One thing to clarify is that if you want to uninstall Docker and install it on a different Volume, you DON'T have to delete all of the settings. This will retain the data in the volume it's currently installed on (in the example, /volume1/@docker), but will NOT carry any of your containers or data to the new volume when it's installed. However, you'll have a rollback plan if you'd like.
Been running +20 docker containers and a HomeAssistant VM in my 500gb WD RED x2 RAID1 NVME pool for months now and not only is fast but obiously the HDD pool isn't being used all the time and the NAS is way more quiet. Had to set it up via ssh because my DS720+ doesn't allow to use the NVME for volumes, but so far 0 probles. I only have to run the script that allows the NVME pool to be created automatically everytime DSM updates (i have it so it runs on the boot everytime). As I said, appart from that, works like a charm.
First of all I want to thank you for your professionalism and dedication to those of us who are learning to use a Synology Nas. Thanks to your virtual classes my Ds-923+ works perfectly, thanks again. I would like to ask you if it is possible to dedicate a video to how to install Plex in a Storage Pool/volume 2 (nvme) and have the movies located in a Storage Pool/volume 1/Hdd, using the synolgy brand nvme. I was able to install Plex on the nvme, but I couldn't see where I have the movies. (I have only one SNV3410-400G unit installed.)
Thank you! I will try and test it this week to confirm, but I believe that the process is the exact same as it is when configuring Plex. The only difference is that Plex is installed on the NVMe Volume, and the data lives on the HDD volume.
@@WunderTechTutorials I solved the problem, and it is working perfectly and very fast. In any case, I would like to see how you do it, surely more professional than me. Thank you very much in advance.
You'd have to do the same thing I believe (uninstall and re-install), but please look into it before making any changes because I've never done it, and don't know what data you'll lose. You are going to need to take backups and even then, might risk losing your data so proceed at your own risk.
Thks & if you have time; ??Could you compare performance of a large NVMe cache vs pool?? Really though, a 24/7 home NAS is designed primarily for reliability & CPU performance is a low priority. So if at-all possible it's wisest/bestest to off-loaded heavy CPU processing to regular computers.
the shure sm7b will retain background noise free recording 15cm/6inch away from source, and much much further than that, if you are recording in a low noise environment, you do not need to be licking the mice :P just distance yourself and add gain accordingly, it's got PEEEENNNTY gain headroom to :) youre mouth will end up permanently frozen in a 30deg angle on youre face, if you continue like that haha :P thanks for all youre videos!
hah I expected some kind of clickbaity way to warn users about not filling storage array over 80%, which usually is the culprit for slow disk I/O performance :D
I plan to purchase a Synology (probably 5 or 6 bay unit) very near future. I'm thinking of using Seagate Ironwolf drives. What is your recommended size (TB) that is the most reliable? I'm thinking the larger the drive, maybe not as reliable. I was thinking 12TB or maybe 16TB?
I unfortunately have no idea which drives are more reliable than others. I believe Backblaze does an annual test, but I generally focus on the warranty of the drives.
Synology M.2 2280 NVMe SSD SNV3410 400GB $149 VS SAMSUNG 990 PRO SSD 1TB PCIe 4.0 M.2 2280 Internal Solid State Hard Drive $109 2.5x More Storage , and 35% less expensive for the Samsung Drive Synology Tax ? Better Drives ? , I know you might have to run a script to get Samsung Drive to work. What makes Synology Drives better ?
It's a Synology tax like you said and the only "official" option that exists. There are unofficial ways to get it working, but if you go that route, just google your NAS device and check which speed the M.2 slot runs at. Most are Gen3 I believe, so buying a Gen4 device like the 990 Pro is a waste of money.
I first went with the Samsung drives but caching performance didn’t seem all that great so I picked up some used Synology SSD’s to use in my E10M20-T1 10 GbE card. You can find these at BH photo for a nice discount used and they have a solid return policy if you want to try a few options. I did notice much better performance myself and things seem snappier even though the performance test results show the exact same results on my RS2818RP+. Results will definitely vary based on your PCIE slot so try to just find something on the compatibility list. What’s funny is I couldn’t run Synology NVME drives in my 1619xs+ so I have 990’s in there after wearing out some 500Gb 970 EVO’s
Cheers Frank.. Great vid. Does the same apply with the plex data? Just a case of moving it over? As in have to uninstall etc? Or can I just change it to ssd in edit?
If you were starting with a brand new NAS, would it make sense to install the NVMe's first as Storage Pool 1 so that all of the apps ran on the faster storage pool and then install the spinning platter HDD's as Storage Pool 2 to store the data that may not benefit from the faster drives ? Or do I completely miss something fundamental here ?
It shouldn't matter - you can change the setting to default to a certain volume if you'd like, or even just have the system ask every time you install a package.
What an interesting video with interesting solutions Frank. Thanks! ... Something I did for a friend of mine that works with extremely large graphic files is I setup 2 raided NVME drives as his host drives that he can move files onto/off of quickly using 10gb NIC and then have the spinning drives do a sync to/from the NVME drives hourly in the background along with snapshots. This allows him to move / make changes quickly and work over the network right from the NAS but keeps it properly back-up copied using the spinning drives in their own slower RAID configurations. He works with a select amount of files per day and will move them from the spinning drive to the NVME before working with them for the day. It's an interesting setup.
One thing to clarify is that if you want to uninstall Docker and install it on a different Volume, you DON'T have to delete all of the settings. This will retain the data in the volume it's currently installed on (in the example, /volume1/@docker), but will NOT carry any of your containers or data to the new volume when it's installed. However, you'll have a rollback plan if you'd like.
Been running +20 docker containers and a HomeAssistant VM in my 500gb WD RED x2 RAID1 NVME pool for months now and not only is fast but obiously the HDD pool isn't being used all the time and the NAS is way more quiet. Had to set it up via ssh because my DS720+ doesn't allow to use the NVME for volumes, but so far 0 probles. I only have to run the script that allows the NVME pool to be created automatically everytime DSM updates (i have it so it runs on the boot everytime). As I said, appart from that, works like a charm.
First of all I want to thank you for your professionalism and dedication to those of us who are learning to use a Synology Nas. Thanks to your virtual classes my Ds-923+ works perfectly, thanks again. I would like to ask you if it is possible to dedicate a video to how to install Plex in a Storage Pool/volume 2 (nvme) and have the movies located in a Storage Pool/volume 1/Hdd, using the synolgy brand nvme. I was able to install Plex on the nvme, but I couldn't see where I have the movies. (I have only one SNV3410-400G unit installed.)
Thank you! I will try and test it this week to confirm, but I believe that the process is the exact same as it is when configuring Plex. The only difference is that Plex is installed on the NVMe Volume, and the data lives on the HDD volume.
@@WunderTechTutorials I solved the problem, and it is working perfectly and very fast. In any case, I would like to see how you do it, surely more professional than me. Thank you very much in advance.
Any idea how to move synology photo ? i already moved my photo folder to my ssd pool but i would like the app and settings to move too to ssd...
You'd have to do the same thing I believe (uninstall and re-install), but please look into it before making any changes because I've never done it, and don't know what data you'll lose. You are going to need to take backups and even then, might risk losing your data so proceed at your own risk.
Thks & if you have time;
??Could you compare performance of a large NVMe cache vs pool??
Really though, a 24/7 home NAS is designed primarily for reliability & CPU performance is a low priority.
So if at-all possible it's wisest/bestest to off-loaded heavy CPU processing to regular computers.
the shure sm7b will retain background noise free recording 15cm/6inch away from source, and much much further than that, if you are recording in a low noise environment, you do not need to be licking the mice :P just distance yourself and add gain accordingly, it's got PEEEENNNTY gain headroom to :) youre mouth will end up permanently frozen in a 30deg angle on youre face, if you continue like that haha :P
thanks for all youre videos!
hah I expected some kind of clickbaity way to warn users about not filling storage array over 80%, which usually is the culprit for slow disk I/O performance :D
I plan to purchase a Synology (probably 5 or 6 bay unit) very near future. I'm thinking of using Seagate Ironwolf drives. What is your recommended size (TB) that is the most reliable? I'm thinking the larger the drive, maybe not as reliable. I was thinking 12TB or maybe 16TB?
I unfortunately have no idea which drives are more reliable than others. I believe Backblaze does an annual test, but I generally focus on the warranty of the drives.
@@WunderTechTutorials Thanks for follow up..!
Synology M.2 2280 NVMe SSD SNV3410 400GB $149 VS
SAMSUNG 990 PRO SSD 1TB PCIe 4.0 M.2 2280 Internal Solid State Hard Drive $109
2.5x More Storage , and 35% less expensive for the Samsung Drive
Synology Tax ? Better Drives ? , I know you might have to run a script to get Samsung Drive to work.
What makes Synology Drives better ?
It's a Synology tax like you said and the only "official" option that exists. There are unofficial ways to get it working, but if you go that route, just google your NAS device and check which speed the M.2 slot runs at. Most are Gen3 I believe, so buying a Gen4 device like the 990 Pro is a waste of money.
I first went with the Samsung drives but caching performance didn’t seem all that great so I picked up some used Synology SSD’s to use in my E10M20-T1 10 GbE card. You can find these at BH photo for a nice discount used and they have a solid return policy if you want to try a few options. I did notice much better performance myself and things seem snappier even though the performance test results show the exact same results on my RS2818RP+. Results will definitely vary based on your PCIE slot so try to just find something on the compatibility list. What’s funny is I couldn’t run Synology NVME drives in my 1619xs+ so I have 990’s in there after wearing out some 500Gb 970 EVO’s
Cheers Frank.. Great vid. Does the same apply with the plex data? Just a case of moving it over? As in have to uninstall etc? Or can I just change it to ssd in edit?
Thanks! No need to move the actual media over - that can all stay on the HDDs. Just the Plex package running on the NVMe Volume is good enough!
If you were starting with a brand new NAS, would it make sense to install the NVMe's first as Storage Pool 1 so that all of the apps ran on the faster storage pool and then install the spinning platter HDD's as Storage Pool 2 to store the data that may not benefit from the faster drives ? Or do I completely miss something fundamental here ?
It shouldn't matter - you can change the setting to default to a certain volume if you'd like, or even just have the system ask every time you install a package.
I've created the NVME Storage Pool in SHR. Is there a noticeable performance using RAID 1?
No, you'll be fine with SHR.
What an interesting video with interesting solutions Frank. Thanks! ... Something I did for a friend of mine that works with extremely large graphic files is I setup 2 raided NVME drives as his host drives that he can move files onto/off of quickly using 10gb NIC and then have the spinning drives do a sync to/from the NVME drives hourly in the background along with snapshots. This allows him to move / make changes quickly and work over the network right from the NAS but keeps it properly back-up copied using the spinning drives in their own slower RAID configurations. He works with a select amount of files per day and will move them from the spinning drive to the NVME before working with them for the day. It's an interesting setup.
Very cool setup! Thanks for watching!
Brill stuff thank you defo way to go my poor old 1515+ doesn’t do nvme drives lol
Hahaha a future option one day!
@@WunderTechTutorials indeed
why not shr?
SHR is fine!