2 separate questions. From the Giants standpoint, should they have kept him? Absolutely, running backs don’t even make that much relative to other positions. Would Barkley be way worse on the Giants? Of course he would, but he still would’ve resigned there if they were aggressive about paying him. The best thing that could happen to Barkley is that the Giants f’d up and let him walk.
Doggy was correct. As good as Saquon is, he’s not going to carry your team. Even Derrick Henry and Adrian Peterson with their 2000 yard seasons couldn’t carry their teams anywhere. You have to have the QB right.
Yeah I agree. However Daniel Jones wasn’t and isn’t that guy. Jones isn’t a QB1. He’s more like a QB2. And it’s exactly how the Vikings gonna use him. QB2
@@gfrank87 I agree. I view him like a post injury Carson Wentz, in terms of talent. He may not be “The Guy”, but he will always have a role in the league
Honestly, being real, Mad Dog is right. You'd be wasting Saquon's career by keeping him with the Giants, its not like they could draft a QB and win a superbowl while not wasting anymore of Saquon's prime
That would be a great argument from Saquons perspective but his argument is undervaluing Saquon and how important he was for the organization in my opinion
That's BS and you know it bro. We have seen teams protect players all the time. They are a rich franchise they absolutely could've provided. They didn't want to. The fact you agree with mad dog is wild
if they didnt pay daniel jones they would have had the money to at least go get players that can. but they doubled down on a QB that was under performing and a year later release him.
No one is pretending he could fix everything. They failed to build around him year after year. But a competent front office would attempt to trade him or resign him just to keep a division rival from succeeding with your generational talent. And Mad Dog is a liar. He is quoted to saying Saquon wanted 30 million a year and 25 million a year. He was signed to the Eagles for 13 million dollars a year. He is absolutely ridiculous.
Eagles fan here. The only issue I had with not resigning Barkley was why not trade him mid-season or sign and trade? They just let him go for nothing. But hey I ain't complaining
Because they didn’t want to pay him what he was asking and didn’t think anyone else in the league would’ve. That’s why he was allowed to test the market. Trading would’ve been a bad look. They just wanted to try and prove Saquon wrong so they could offer him less to bait him.
Obviously but the Giants paying Daniel jones all that money is basically the reason they lost Saquon. Anyone who watched the giants knew it was about Saquon and the defense. Jones only threw for 15tds🤦🏾♂️beat the overrated Vikings (who had all their wins come in one score games). You don’t give a guy 160mil
@@kevothegoat9891but what would keeping saquon have done for them? Running backs don’t usually last past their early 30s and it was going to take a good 3-5 years to even possibly turn the team around
@@GarrettGriffin-v5b with nabers as a new weapon with saquan they would of been much better than what they are now. You don't pay Jones $160 million dollars when he wasn't the reason they went to the playoffs. Plus you can't compare Barkley to the average running backs shelf life.
That’s not the argument. The argument is they let their star player go to a divisional rival for nothing while paying a terrible QB. Even if it’s just for jersey sales, you keep Saquon.
This is ridiculous strawman nonsense. You do not dump your best player, by that logic if a team isn't good they should get rid of all their good players and just keep the bad. Since the best players would be even better on another team. You think constantly getting rid of good players is a path to improving?
@@CargoCondorovertheroad he’s shattering all his career highs with like 6 games to go. He only had 2 elite level seasons with the giants, the rest were riddled with injured and bad offensive line.
@@JoePesos Hey Mr. Strawman, guess what? I didn’t say they should’ve dumped Saquon. I implied his numbers are better with the Eagles because he has a way better supporting cast than he’s ever had.
If they never paid Daniel jones they could’ve kept Barkley and been in a much better position who knows maybe they could’ve made a move for Jaden Daniels
bro acting like saquon didnt have 1000 rushing yards seasons with the giants. he wouldn’t have a NFL history season but he’d still have a badass season
@ your making my point, these running backs improved their teams, went from good to great teams . Ravens , Eagles are juggernaut’s offensively. Of course no running back is good when getting hit behind the line of scrimmage 🤣 stop it
@@orlys54 The Ravens were just as good if not better last year without Henry, if anything the teams they went to improved their play drastically😂😂😂 when the last time Henry or Saquon played the way they are playing now
I know I've been enjoying the RBs (Saquon Barkley and Josh Jacobs) for my fantasy team that I'm currently #1 in. There's definitely a resurgence and emphasis going back to the run game while utilizing the majority of them as dual threat RBs.
letting go of Saquon Barkley was the right choice for the giants. A bad team really shouldn't pay a RB like him, this issue lies in the fact that the giants paid Daniel Jones, if they would've just let both go in free agency I believe the giants would be in a better situation. Also if saquon was still on the giants they would probably be like 4-7 maybe.
The Giants let both go in Free agency that's why they look how they look. The better option wouldve been to trade both and gain assets toward their rebuild. They let McKinney and Saquon hit FA and released Daniel jones and got not 1 pick in return for any one of em
Nooo, they couldve turned the train around overnight literally, just trade up to get the right qb or wait, and build the team up even more since your not paying your white savior Jones 40 mill a year bs money
You do not let your best player walk out thru free agency, Schoen failed miserably by not trading Saquon and getting value for him, several teams were willing to trade for him.
@@la_sports88 his contract is 3yrs 38mil with incentives it's can be worth up to 46mil. Daniels making 40mil a season a guy the giants didn't even want. Remember the decline his 5th year option before giving him that big contract
Exactly. Look at the holes the Philly OL creates for him. He don’t even get touched a lot of times while Tracy and Singletary get swallowed up behind the LOS half the time.
That wasn't the question though. The question was do the Giants regret letting him go. They let him walk while getting no players or draft picks in return, and now he is playing at a historic level for your division rival. So yeah, I think the Giants might have some regrets about how they handled the situation.
Mad dog is right but wrong about him getting 30 million a year, a running back in the NFL would never get 30 million especially after tearing his ACL a few years ago
Objectively the best move would've been keeping Saquon then trading him if they got to a record like they have now or just for more draft capital to fill out the team more
Chris Russo is the biggest anti-NY when it comes to sports teams. Even when the NYG had successful seasons under Coughlin, he would always criticize. He does not belong up there. His evaluations are nothing but bias against NY. No one should take him seriously!
Jesus Christ it’s been 8 months now just let it go already. Giants did him a favor. Enjoy what you’re seeing. Idk why ESPN have so many idiots working there
I don’t think my team ever really deserved Barkley or he just come too early to the team we weren’t ready for him. From the beginning of his career, I always said he was a potential future Hall of Famer. The problem I have with a lot Giants fans and the front office is not that they aren’t right idea that we didn’t need an RB of his calibre on the team at the time, no is because we realise the value we had in him. New York could have legitimately built a strong team around Saquon and a decent QB (not freaking DJ someone a little better like Tannahill’s level or something). If we had our front office and coach really understand what we had in Barkley we would have franchised DJ and paid Barkley period. He always wanted to stay and loved the Giants. If Barkley even had the O-line we like we had this year, he would be killing it. Let’s face it with Saquon and DJ we got it wrong. Barkley is generational and we should have paid him or not drafted him at all. DJ was not good enough period. I hope Barkley runs for 2160 yard this year and wins the MVP. We deserve to hear about how we fucked up all year period.
@@kuhlil8590 bruhh as a Giants fan i could give af about Barkley lmao i'm happy af with Tracy and he's gonna be a beast for years to come.. If they would of signed Barkley they wouldnt of been able to sign the OL they did in the off season so imagine how much worse they would of been
Mad dog wasn’t making the best points. But I actually agree with him. I think you only splurge on a rb if that’s the only position left that’s needed on your team. The eagles were a running back away, the ravens rb away
Why let your best player walk as a FA instead of trying to trade for players and draft picks? EVERYBODY lnows Saquon would not be having a historic season in NY, but would he be a bad RB? My answer would be no because he's one of the best in the league behind any line. They paid one of the worst QBs $100M+, but never tried or wanted to pay Barkley
Can we honestly say that the Giants with Saquon and Malik Neighbors wouldn’t have had a shot at wildcard spot? The way it played out was literally the worst-case scenario. They weakened themselves AND strengthened one of their division rivals. In the NFL you are in the business of winning games, and Giants organization looks completely clueless on how to do that
If you believe a non QB would be the difference from the giants having 2 wins right now to having 5 or 6 wins right now your delusional this isn’t basketball 1 player especially a RB doesn’t make that much of a difference giants don’t have the offensive line or coaching the eagles have what a horrible take and the fact people liked your comment shows the IQ of the fans in this comment section
There is no other "analyst" I hate more than Doggy. He belongs on talk radio and not on TV. I refuse to watch FT on Weds because of him. The only reason I clicked on this video is because of the title and to hear SA read him his rights (which he didn't do). I hope SA regrets bringing him on, I doubt his grouchy old man takes are moving the needle that much with the ratings.
Optically it looks bad especially because he went to a division rival, however they shouldn’t regret it. The team is a mess. Having Saquon there wouldn’t change the position they are in now. They need a complete overhaul.
I love when they gang up on Doggy and are wrong asf lmao Saquon is on a Good Football team so yes he looks amazing and they are winning with 2 Good wr and a really good QB...NY has none of those things...they have so many other needs than a 6 YR RB...every good RB that walked from they previous team went to a GOOD TEAM...I'm a Raiders fan and I loved Jacob's but wtf did we do with him last year even tho he led the NFL in rushing?Nothing at all...6 years and 1 playoff app lmao 🤣 😅...A smart organization flips that barkely money into multiple starters which the giants and raiders,titans are not...Look at the good RB on bad teams...Doggy is absolutely correct 💯💯A GOOD RB IS ONLY VALUABLE ON A GOOD TEAM!!!!💯ITS THAT SIMPLE🤷🏾♂️
Exactly, Saturday has awful takes and for someone who was a great player, he sure is clueless about the optics of the game. Maybe that’s why he was a terrible NFL coach
Mad Dog forgot that last year (2023)Daniel Jones was out 8 games with a torn ACL so we don't know what the team would have done with both Saquon and Daniel. Stephen A forgot that Saquon wanted the guaranteed money. Giants org. only offered $19,000,000 guaranteed to start in the spring of 2023. They later upped it to $22,000,000. They then franchised him for a lowly $10,00,000 plus $1 milliion more. Philly offered Saquon $4,000,000 more for a total of $26,000,000 guaranteed. His final contract makes it possible for him to earn 46 to 47 million over the course of his contract (including incentives).
They could’ve kept Saquon and drafted Jayden, Drake or even Bo Nix or Michael Penix lol they’d be in a way better situation than now. People love to act like NFL front offices don’t have options.
Mad Dog is right.. what was Barkley gonna do on a bad Giants team.. why give an rb money when that money needs to be spent on a much needed oline and other spots.. Barkley wasn’t going to have a year like this ever if he stayed on the Giants..
Everyone is forgetting that the Giants wanted to KEEP Saquon the GM thought no one would offer Saquon more than 12 million which is the minimum the giants would have to pay to KEEP Saquon and then the GM said test the market and thought Saquon would get no offers OR on the chance that he did get an offer the GM wanted Saquon to give them a chance to match it but Saquon did the sensible thing and signed where he was wanted on a good roster that didn’t play games with his money.
Yup, everyone is all over the place with the Saquan takes, it’s honestly embarrassing. So everyone just thinks the easy target is the giants and they go after them
Is it better for Saquon to be away from the Giants? Of course. Would it be better for Nabors to be away from the Giants? Obviously. Would it be better for any top flight player to be off any bad teams? Goes without saying. But it's not better for those teams who still need to compete despite being undermanned. The ONLY possible justification would be if the salary spent on the star could be reallocated to other players who in total make the team better. But the damage to the Giants in terms of reputation, in terms of attracting free agents, is immeasurably bad. It will be known as the new "Curse of the Bambino". Giants will continue to struggle for the foreseeable future.
Saquon had two healthy years out of five behind an offensive line that wasn't going to improve. If he gets paid, the Giants dont choose Nabers(instead being much more aggressive in pursuing a QB in the draft when NE wasn't willing to trade Maye). The doubt was if Saquon can stay healthy, not simply productive. I love the guy and I wished they tagged him instead of Jones. He could've gotten another major injury. Instead, Jones gets the contract then gets the injuries(the neck being the big one). As a Giants fan, when it comes to neck injuries ...I think of David Wilson(was supposed to be heir apparent to Tiki Barber), Ahmad Bradshaw(wasn't on the team much longer), and Mathias Kiwanuka(DE who was switched to LB and lost a step post recovery). Or other major injuries: Hakeem Nicks with poor circulation in his feet, Steve Smith(not to be confused with Panthers Steve Smith) with microfracture knee surgery in his free agent year that ended his career more or less, Victor Cruz, Sterling Shepherd, Larry Donnell. No guarantee Saquon stays healthy, though I hope so.
Why are they talking about Saquan leaving the Giants still? They should be talking about how the 49ers and Bengals continue to struggle and lose games.
The argument in favor of the Giants making a mistake isn’t saying Saquan has same production as he’s having in Philly. It’s about the ineptitude of the Giants organization building a contending team. Compound not singular!
Analysis like Mad Dog that have never played the game & never been an impact player at anything sport. Are just as Dumb as the Giants GM & Coaching staff ❗️ The mere fact that the Giants GM didn’t listen to the owner saying “ He’d lose sleep if Saquon walked out the door”, was absolutely crazy. That should have let you know Saquon value to the organization & what he meant. Heck his own son told him how to conduct his own business & had a better understanding of evaluating talent. But He did everything but listen to those around him.
Mad Dog is actually right here… he’s not saying Saquon is a bad player, he actually said he’s great. He’s just saying that Giants are just so bad overall that it wouldn’t matter if Saquon was still there. I don’t see anything wrong with what he said
they gave up saquon for because they wanted to pay him 9 million a year vs the 12.5 that the eagles are paying him. Terrible decision making when you have a QB like DJ.
Clearly Mad Dog is the only one with sense. Saquon Barkley is not fixing the Giants and when is the last time a RB who has gotten paid delivered a super bowl????
The problem with Mad Dog viewpoint is there are other players on the team. That would mean they shouldn’t sign Dexter Lawrence or Andrew Thomas because their record didn’t improve.
Maddog is basically showing the problem with NY sports organization is the arrogance of every front office. Giants, Knicks, Jets, Mets and Yankees. Majority of the moves these teams make are head scratchers even for a casual fan..
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If he was still on the Giants, "Is Saquon wasting his career in NY?"
Absolutely. I agree 100%.
this^!
Not even that. Everyone would just think he was overrated and washed.
So few would actually think this lol
Exactly
2 separate questions.
From the Giants standpoint, should they have kept him? Absolutely, running backs don’t even make that much relative to other positions.
Would Barkley be way worse on the Giants? Of course he would, but he still would’ve resigned there if they were aggressive about paying him.
The best thing that could happen to Barkley is that the Giants f’d up and let him walk.
Saquon on the Giants is like 22" chrome wheels on a broken down car.
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Exactly. They don't get it. What's the point of having the best running back if the team around him sucks.
@@KNByamExactly!
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Doggy was correct. As good as Saquon is, he’s not going to carry your team. Even Derrick Henry and Adrian Peterson with their 2000 yard seasons couldn’t carry their teams anywhere. You have to have the QB right.
The giants had 6 years to build a decent o-line to help both Barkley and Daniel Jones, they didn’t. They deserve their impending demise.
The offensive line is average this year. Daniel Jones doesn't know how to read a defense pre-snap to adjust protection.
No, it's not they lost both. They tackled @edwuncleriii1922
Yeah I agree. However Daniel Jones wasn’t and isn’t that guy. Jones isn’t a QB1. He’s more like a QB2. And it’s exactly how the Vikings gonna use him. QB2
@@gfrank87 I agree. I view him like a post injury Carson Wentz, in terms of talent. He may not be “The Guy”, but he will always have a role in the league
Honestly, being real, Mad Dog is right. You'd be wasting Saquon's career by keeping him with the Giants, its not like they could draft a QB and win a superbowl while not wasting anymore of Saquon's prime
It would have been a Lil lit if they got Jayden Daniel's or Baker Mayfield, but hindsight is 20/20
Bro, get mad dog off the show
they had 6 years to fix the team and make barkley the center piece the giants suck and will forever suck
If that was the reason they let him go I could understand that but they let him go because they paid a QB they just let go of
That would be a great argument from Saquons perspective but his argument is undervaluing Saquon and how important he was for the organization in my opinion
Mad Dog is right…the Giants couldn’t provide the protection for Saquon to thrive.
That's BS and you know it bro. We have seen teams protect players all the time. They are a rich franchise they absolutely could've provided. They didn't want to. The fact you agree with mad dog is wild
if they didnt pay daniel jones they would have had the money to at least go get players that can. but they doubled down on a QB that was under performing and a year later release him.
So you let him walk to the enemy? Real smart.
And whose fault is that? For me the answer is that idiot that was on the hard knocks video
Any person who has the self moniker of Mad Dog is never right
Yall are WRONG. Saquon couldnt fix that Dumpster Fire
No one is pretending he could fix everything. They failed to build around him year after year. But a competent front office would attempt to trade him or resign him just to keep a division rival from succeeding with your generational talent.
And Mad Dog is a liar. He is quoted to saying Saquon wanted 30 million a year and 25 million a year. He was signed to the Eagles for 13 million dollars a year. He is absolutely ridiculous.
Eagles fan here. The only issue I had with not resigning Barkley was why not trade him mid-season or sign and trade? They just let him go for nothing. But hey I ain't complaining
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Because they didn’t want to pay him what he was asking and didn’t think anyone else in the league would’ve. That’s why he was allowed to test the market. Trading would’ve been a bad look. They just wanted to try and prove Saquon wrong so they could offer him less to bait him.
Mad Dog has a point. Saquon went into a way better situation than the Giants.
Obviously but the Giants paying Daniel jones all that money is basically the reason they lost Saquon. Anyone who watched the giants knew it was about Saquon and the defense. Jones only threw for 15tds🤦🏾♂️beat the overrated Vikings (who had all their wins come in one score games). You don’t give a guy 160mil
Who cares you don’t let him just walk knowing he can go to a rival like he did with the eagles. Just resign him and trade him
@@kevothegoat9891but what would keeping saquon have done for them? Running backs don’t usually last past their early 30s and it was going to take a good 3-5 years to even possibly turn the team around
@@GarrettGriffin-v5b with nabers as a new weapon with saquan they would of been much better than what they are now. You don't pay Jones $160 million dollars when he wasn't the reason they went to the playoffs. Plus you can't compare Barkley to the average running backs shelf life.
@ what has keeping Jones done for them🙂. Also Saquon was a top 5 pick you drafted him because he’s a generational talent.
Why do people act like Saquon would’ve done this on the Giants? We absolutely suck. Is there not a previous 6 years of evidence?
That’s not the argument. The argument is they let their star player go to a divisional rival for nothing while paying a terrible QB. Even if it’s just for jersey sales, you keep Saquon.
Because he’s been doing it. Are ppl forgetting he was the reason for the little success the giants had. He literally played QB for you guys
This is ridiculous strawman nonsense. You do not dump your best player, by that logic if a team isn't good they should get rid of all their good players and just keep the bad. Since the best players would be even better on another team. You think constantly getting rid of good players is a path to improving?
@@CargoCondorovertheroad he’s shattering all his career highs with like 6 games to go. He only had 2 elite level seasons with the giants, the rest were riddled with injured and bad offensive line.
@@JoePesos Hey Mr. Strawman, guess what? I didn’t say they should’ve dumped Saquon. I implied his numbers are better with the Eagles because he has a way better supporting cast than he’s ever had.
Man y’all know the giants didn’t have a good offensive line, stop the bulljive.
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Huh? Tracy has had success…but saquan would do waaaay better because he’s an elite talent stop the bs
If they never paid Daniel jones they could’ve kept Barkley and been in a much better position who knows maybe they could’ve made a move for Jaden Daniels
bro acting like saquon didnt have 1000 rushing yards seasons with the giants. he wouldn’t have a NFL history season but he’d still have a badass season
The giants did saquon a favor.
Maddog has a point
Barkley would have been ok. Giants still would have stunk
I agree with mad-dog on this one
Not really, he's only looking at the numbers. This is why analytic guys don't have a leg in talking sports or a player's true value.
He does but sucks at explaining it lol
The point he has…is his parrot nose. He doesn’t have a leg to stand on with his argument
The notion that the RB position is dead is stupid AF. Jacob’s , Henry and Barkley have proven that . They improved their teams drastically
That’s a reach, all of their teams were bad with them last season 😂😂😂😂 they just went to better teams that’s all
@ your making my point, these running backs improved their teams, went from good to great teams . Ravens , Eagles are juggernaut’s offensively. Of course no running back is good when getting hit behind the line of scrimmage 🤣 stop it
I love to see it
@@orlys54 The Ravens were just as good if not better last year without Henry, if anything the teams they went to improved their play drastically😂😂😂 when the last time Henry or Saquon played the way they are playing now
I know I've been enjoying the RBs (Saquon Barkley and Josh Jacobs) for my fantasy team that I'm currently #1 in. There's definitely a resurgence and emphasis going back to the run game while utilizing the majority of them as dual threat RBs.
letting go of Saquon Barkley was the right choice for the giants. A bad team really shouldn't pay a RB like him, this issue lies in the fact that the giants paid Daniel Jones, if they would've just let both go in free agency I believe the giants would be in a better situation. Also if saquon was still on the giants they would probably be like 4-7 maybe.
The Giants let both go in Free agency that's why they look how they look. The better option wouldve been to trade both and gain assets toward their rebuild. They let McKinney and Saquon hit FA and released Daniel jones and got not 1 pick in return for any one of em
@@pg2t725 yeah thats also true, truthfully i feel like people should point out the Xavier Mckinney debacle more than the saquon one
Nooo, they couldve turned the train around overnight literally, just trade up to get the right qb or wait, and build the team up even more since your not paying your white savior Jones 40 mill a year bs money
Paying Daniel Jones wasn't the right move.
You do not let your best player walk out thru free agency, Schoen failed miserably by not trading Saquon and getting value for him, several teams were willing to trade for him.
Daniel jones Giants paid $160m
Sequan was 40% offense didn't want pay him $10m yr😂😂😂
bullseye!
Thank you Giants
14 M a year
I'm glad he's with the Eagles
@@la_sports88 his contract is 3yrs 38mil with incentives it's can be worth up to 46mil. Daniels making 40mil a season a guy the giants didn't even want. Remember the decline his 5th year option before giving him that big contract
I’m from da hood. And I don’t know a lot about football but you don’t sell you best weapon to your enemies 😂
They didn't even sell it...dude walked out for free🤷 they got nothing in return.
@ oh dam
Saquan wasn't going to have anywhere near this type of season in New York guys .
Exactly. Look at the holes the Philly OL creates for him. He don’t even get touched a lot of times while Tracy and Singletary get swallowed up behind the LOS half the time.
That wasn't the question though. The question was do the Giants regret letting him go. They let him walk while getting no players or draft picks in return, and now he is playing at a historic level for your division rival. So yeah, I think the Giants might have some regrets about how they handled the situation.
Mad dog is right but wrong about him getting 30 million a year, a running back in the NFL would never get 30 million especially after tearing his ACL a few years ago
I see Kimberly Martin, I’m out.
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Fair!
Fair enough. I can stomach it myself with Mad dog on.
She makes some solid arguments on some debates. I just think there's some of yall sport fans that don't like women debating sports.
Idk man I’m down with the thickness
Eagles are in the Super Bowl. Thank you Giants
"LOOK AT ME DOGGY IM RIGHT HERE LOOK AT ME DOGGY" 😂😂 hilarious
Although I usually disagree with Russo, he's on point here. The Giants can't block for s**t
Exactly!
So they couldn’t cut Daniel Jones and use the money to build an offensive line around Saquon?
Facts
Mad dog is right not to mention Barkley missed like a third of his games in those 6 years
Saquon stays “free saquon he should ask for a trade or leave!!!” Saquon leaves “oh they should have paid him!!! You regret letting him leave now!!!”
As a Giants fan, I wished we extended his contract, but I’m glad he’s out of that organization so he can thrive.
Objectively the best move would've been keeping Saquon then trading him if they got to a record like they have now or just for more draft capital to fill out the team more
Chris Russo is the biggest anti-NY when it comes to sports teams. Even when the NYG had successful seasons under Coughlin, he would always criticize. He does not belong up there. His evaluations are nothing but bias against NY. No one should take him seriously!
Jesus Christ it’s been 8 months now just let it go already. Giants did him a favor. Enjoy what you’re seeing. Idk why ESPN have so many idiots working there
found the giants fan
Lol😂
I don’t think my team ever really deserved Barkley or he just come too early to the team we weren’t ready for him. From the beginning of his career, I always said he was a potential future Hall of Famer. The problem I have with a lot Giants fans and the front office is not that they aren’t right idea that we didn’t need an RB of his calibre on the team at the time, no is because we realise the value we had in him. New York could have legitimately built a strong team around Saquon and a decent QB (not freaking DJ someone a little better like Tannahill’s level or something). If we had our front office and coach really understand what we had in Barkley we would have franchised DJ and paid Barkley period. He always wanted to stay and loved the Giants. If Barkley even had the O-line we like we had this year, he would be killing it. Let’s face it with Saquon and DJ we got it wrong. Barkley is generational and we should have paid him or not drafted him at all. DJ was not good enough period. I hope Barkley runs for 2160 yard this year and wins the MVP. We deserve to hear about how we fucked up all year period.
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@@kuhlil8590 bruhh as a Giants fan i could give af about Barkley lmao i'm happy af with Tracy and he's gonna be a beast for years to come.. If they would of signed Barkley they wouldnt of been able to sign the OL they did in the off season so imagine how much worse they would of been
5:40 But the problem is the way they acted as if Daniel Jones was the best player on their team. That's why they paid him and let saquon walk...
Mad dog wasn’t making the best points. But I actually agree with him. I think you only splurge on a rb if that’s the only position left that’s needed on your team. The eagles were a running back away, the ravens rb away
Why let your best player walk as a FA instead of trying to trade for players and draft picks? EVERYBODY lnows Saquon would not be having a historic season in NY, but would he be a bad RB? My answer would be no because he's one of the best in the league behind any line. They paid one of the worst QBs $100M+, but never tried or wanted to pay Barkley
Mad Dog is right. But should’ve traded him instead of letting him go to free agency. The giants are a bad team with or without him
Doggie is clueless Saquan’s contract is $13.5 Million a year not $30 M!
I’m like who’s going to pay a rb 30 million a year
Can we honestly say that the Giants with Saquon and Malik Neighbors wouldn’t have had a shot at wildcard spot? The way it played out was literally the worst-case scenario. They weakened themselves AND strengthened one of their division rivals. In the NFL you are in the business of winning games, and Giants organization looks completely clueless on how to do that
If you believe a non QB would be the difference from the giants having 2 wins right now to having 5 or 6 wins right now your delusional this isn’t basketball 1 player especially a RB doesn’t make that much of a difference giants don’t have the offensive line or coaching the eagles have what a horrible take and the fact people liked your comment shows the IQ of the fans in this comment section
Mad dog have a great point
Saquon got Daniel Jones Paid, that 6-0 run the giants had was coz of Saquon
There is no other "analyst" I hate more than Doggy. He belongs on talk radio and not on TV. I refuse to watch FT on Weds because of him. The only reason I clicked on this video is because of the title and to hear SA read him his rights (which he didn't do). I hope SA regrets bringing him on, I doubt his grouchy old man takes are moving the needle that much with the ratings.
Kimberley don’t know wtf she be arguing about or trying to 😭
mmhm (triple snap)
I don't tend to agree with mad dog often, but here he had a point
I'm so glad Saquon is OUT of this situation!
Giants was wasting his talent glad he went to eagles to show how much of beast he is
Think mad dog is right, Giants are on full rebuild now, paying saquon doesnt make sense
If Kimberly Martin has no haters I am dead
They’re out here clowning around the day before a holiday and I’m here for it. Today seemed like they were genuinely having a good time.
Optically it looks bad especially because he went to a division rival, however they shouldn’t regret it. The team is a mess. Having Saquon there wouldn’t change the position they are in now. They need a complete overhaul.
They should had got compensation for him. From a business perspective
Agreed, they swear like the Giants would be making any noise
Molly is getting tired of being a moderator. She is getting more involved in these debates and jumping in with her takes.
I love when they gang up on Doggy and are wrong asf lmao Saquon is on a Good Football team so yes he looks amazing and they are winning with 2 Good wr and a really good QB...NY has none of those things...they have so many other needs than a 6 YR RB...every good RB that walked from they previous team went to a GOOD TEAM...I'm a Raiders fan and I loved Jacob's but wtf did we do with him last year even tho he led the NFL in rushing?Nothing at all...6 years and 1 playoff app lmao 🤣 😅...A smart organization flips that barkely money into multiple starters which the giants and raiders,titans are not...Look at the good RB on bad teams...Doggy is absolutely correct 💯💯A GOOD RB IS ONLY VALUABLE ON A GOOD TEAM!!!!💯ITS THAT SIMPLE🤷🏾♂️
Exactly, Saturday has awful takes and for someone who was a great player, he sure is clueless about the optics of the game. Maybe that’s why he was a terrible NFL coach
Jeff Saturday is a Colts legend... but him being a head coach for a year on a trash Colts team should let him know that Mad Dog is right
I miss the days when ESPN analysts didn’t yell at each other.
maybe you shouldn't watch a debate show lol
@@pg2t725 You can debate someone without yelling at them.
Mad Dog forgot that last year (2023)Daniel Jones was out 8 games with a torn ACL so we don't know what the team would have done with both Saquon and Daniel. Stephen A forgot that Saquon wanted the guaranteed money. Giants org. only offered $19,000,000 guaranteed to start in the spring of 2023. They later upped it to $22,000,000. They then franchised him for a lowly $10,00,000 plus $1 milliion more. Philly offered Saquon $4,000,000 more for a total of $26,000,000 guaranteed. His final contract makes it possible for him to earn 46 to 47 million over the course of his contract (including incentives).
Mad dog right man. You swear that Saquon wanted to stay in a losing team. Saquon don’t really care how he got let go.
12:22 the look has me dead 💀
Mad Dog is right
Wrong. You rather overpaid a medicore QB 40mil than a top RB 15. We see what happen when team overpaid a medicore
They could’ve kept Saquon and drafted Jayden, Drake or even Bo Nix or Michael Penix lol they’d be in a way better situation than now. People love to act like NFL front offices don’t have options.
The talent NYG has given up is wild. Collins, OBJ, Cruz, Saquon, Mckenny, Williams, now they got Dex & Nabers who they’ll let go somehow.
Nabers gunna leave if they don’t get a black qb ward/sanders
Mad Dog sounds silly! To double down on the stupid move by NY with the RB ain’t valuable logic is crazy!
Mad Dog is right.. what was Barkley gonna do on a bad Giants team.. why give an rb money when that money needs to be spent on a much needed oline and other spots.. Barkley wasn’t going to have a year like this ever if he stayed on the Giants..
The biggest mistake was refusing to continue 😕 to completely rebuild the team. Extending Daniel Jones and Saquan Barkley aren't the solutions.
can kimberly stop talking
Saturday is really good. Kimberly is on her way amongst these greats
Mad dog is a loud dummy😂
He’s right though
I'm trying to figure out what stage of grief Mad Dog is in now that Saquon Barkley is thriving and becoming an MVP-Caliber player on the Eagles.
I really hate hearing these 2 women argue/debate ... its alot like cackling. Chiney and Monica are dope but these 2 women are soooooooo annoying.
Everyone is forgetting that the Giants wanted to KEEP Saquon the GM thought no one would offer Saquon more than 12 million which is the minimum the giants would have to pay to KEEP Saquon and then the GM said test the market and thought Saquon would get no offers OR on the chance that he did get an offer the GM wanted Saquon to give them a chance to match it but Saquon did the sensible thing and signed where he was wanted on a good roster that didn’t play games with his money.
Yup, everyone is all over the place with the Saquan takes, it’s honestly embarrassing. So everyone just thinks the easy target is the giants and they go after them
Did y'all see Jeff Saturday's face when Mad Dog was talking this ridiculousness😂😂.
“That’s like saying we’ll get rid of Steven A and let Mad Dog do it” 😂😂😂😂
Is it better for Saquon to be away from the Giants? Of course. Would it be better for Nabors to be away from the Giants? Obviously. Would it be better for any top flight player to be off any bad teams? Goes without saying. But it's not better for those teams who still need to compete despite being undermanned. The ONLY possible justification would be if the salary spent on the star could be reallocated to other players who in total make the team better. But the damage to the Giants in terms of reputation, in terms of attracting free agents, is immeasurably bad. It will be known as the new "Curse of the Bambino". Giants will continue to struggle for the foreseeable future.
And ESPN wonders why their ratings have been plummeting for years
Saquon had two healthy years out of five behind an offensive line that wasn't going to improve. If he gets paid, the Giants dont choose Nabers(instead being much more aggressive in pursuing a QB in the draft when NE wasn't willing to trade Maye). The doubt was if Saquon can stay healthy, not simply productive. I love the guy and I wished they tagged him instead of Jones. He could've gotten another major injury. Instead, Jones gets the contract then gets the injuries(the neck being the big one). As a Giants fan, when it comes to neck injuries ...I think of David Wilson(was supposed to be heir apparent to Tiki Barber), Ahmad Bradshaw(wasn't on the team much longer), and Mathias Kiwanuka(DE who was switched to LB and lost a step post recovery). Or other major injuries: Hakeem Nicks with poor circulation in his feet, Steve Smith(not to be confused with Panthers Steve Smith) with microfracture knee surgery in his free agent year that ended his career more or less, Victor Cruz, Sterling Shepherd, Larry Donnell.
No guarantee Saquon stays healthy, though I hope so.
he called doggy clueless and outta his mind 😂😂
This show isn't about what Mad Dog is mad about. It is about what Mad Dog is wrong about.
Why are they talking about Saquan leaving the Giants still? They should be talking about how the 49ers and Bengals continue to struggle and lose games.
Bengals getting a w this week
@15:03 pretty sure I know what the inconsistency is in Doggy's argument
‘Mad dog’ is correct… if Daniel Jones wasn’t paid. Saquan is worth 16, same as CMC.
I agree with Stephen A.
12.5 million is what he got paid per year
Mad Dog makes a good point. The Giants would still be in a bad place with Barkley on the team, because they are poorly run.
Mad Dogg stood on business this whole segment respect! 😂 He’s 100% right though
The mistake the Giants made was not trading Saquon. Simple.
Mad Dog is 100% correct.
Calling MD "too Cute" with that fit on, on national TV is wild asf 😂
9:40 😂 doggy gotta chill on Jeff coaching career fr leave he a legend
The argument in favor of the Giants making a mistake isn’t saying Saquan has same production as he’s having in Philly. It’s about the ineptitude of the Giants organization building a contending team. Compound not singular!
This kinda makes it fill like the RB and QB are equally MVP’s because they make each other better
1:48 bro is right
Funny because Dave Gettlemen said he drafted a gold jacket running back!! Just didn’t realize it would be for a different team 😅😅😅
The giants need a complete rebuild, bad front office, bad players, bad training staff, bad doctors, bad COACHING 👎, everything is bad in NY
Mad Dog is Right on this one.
You can tell who is old school and who is pushing the media narrative.
Analysis like Mad Dog that have never played the game & never been an impact player at anything sport. Are just as Dumb as the Giants GM & Coaching staff ❗️ The mere fact that the Giants GM didn’t listen to the owner saying “ He’d lose sleep if Saquon walked out the door”, was absolutely crazy. That should have let you know Saquon value to the organization & what he meant. Heck his own son told him how to conduct his own business & had a better understanding of evaluating talent. But He did everything but listen to those around him.
Mad Dog is actually right here… he’s not saying Saquon is a bad player, he actually said he’s great. He’s just saying that Giants are just so bad overall that it wouldn’t matter if Saquon was still there. I don’t see anything wrong with what he said
I cannot believe how WRONG everyone except Mad Dog is.
That ending was funny I ain’t going to lie 😂 they got him on that .
Mad dog is absolutely correct. He is in the right situation. Giants have no offensive line
they gave up saquon for because they wanted to pay him 9 million a year vs the 12.5 that the eagles are paying him. Terrible decision making when you have a QB like DJ.
Clearly Mad Dog is the only one with sense. Saquon Barkley is not fixing the Giants and when is the last time a RB who has gotten paid delivered a super bowl????
The problem with Mad Dog viewpoint is there are other players on the team. That would mean they shouldn’t sign Dexter Lawrence or Andrew Thomas because their record didn’t improve.
What most have forgotten is a good running game sets up the passing game.
If you want to understand why Saquon is much better as Miles Sanders(2022)😂 I'm sure he still misses the Oline.
Maddog is basically showing the problem with NY sports organization is the arrogance of every front office. Giants, Knicks, Jets, Mets and Yankees. Majority of the moves these teams make are head scratchers even for a casual fan..
Doggy isn't wrong. The Giants would've paid Barkley and had no money to build around him.
$16 a year isn’t salary cap hit. Yall are slow af lol
If we signed Saquan last year, we would have been just good enough to miss out on Shaduer Sanders and Cam Ward.
Saquon was really the Bugatti sitting in the hood😭😭😭😭
Mad Dog standing on bidnizz🤣🤣🤣🤣💯
Honestly the Giants problem is not fixing that offense line for 10+ years
The idea that Saquon is asking for 25 million is absurd, Mad Dog is such a bleephole, so glad when he was off the airwaves in NY
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