Edward Stow is a first class presenter/researcher, with a fascenating and compelling case in regards to the identity of Jack the Ripper. I for one am convinced Edward Stow has solved this case by naming Lechmere.
It would be extremely interesting if the existing photo of Lechmere could be enhanced in a reverse aging photo process to see him as he would have appeared around 1888. It might give a slightly better idea of how he would square with several witness observations of potential suspects, especially in the case of Elizabeth Stride. "Lipsky" as a reference to assault on women is noteworthy.
Maybe yes but couldn't it just be a random insult at anyone foreign to the speaker? Or couldn't the name caller just have been wrong like witnesses today have proven to be?
Edward Stow is a fantastic presenter. I was born in Grey Eagle Street in 1962 and always fascinated by the Jack the Ripper murders. I am convinced that Lechmere is the Ripper.
@@thehouseoflechmere9407 To Not include that he said his surname was Cross due to the Fact that was his stepfather's surname is pointing to your Deceit about the Truth. Stop calling him Jack the Ripper, there is Zero evidence that he was & your 'reasoning' to accuse him & put that about is Ludicrous.
@bethryan9077 I've mentioned that his stepfather was called cross multiple times and that this is obviously the inspiration for his use of that name. You are only going to look totally foolish by making rash and unfounded accusations, and I really don't want you to look like an idiot. So watch all the films. Every single one.
@@thehouseoflechmere9407 You need to watch your own show pal, you did Not say that. Deary, you haven't even shown any Proof that he Was actually Charles Cross. Having said that, if that is true, when one knows the family lineage of the surname Lechmere, anyone with 3 brain cells would Know why he used his stepfather's surname. Listen up lovey, it is You who's making the big Fool of yourself with your totally unfounded accusations against a nobody & your particularly childish braindead 'reasoning' as to why you have made him into Jack the Ripper as you State like an arrogant Twit. Now run along, I hear your momma calling you.
Audio has improved and more content keeps coming, it can't get better than this. It would be great if you could compare the FBI record on Jack the Ripper with some facts from Lechmere
With all the circumstantial evidence you present in this (and the other videos), it's pretty hard to argue that Lechmere ISN'T the Ripper. I don't know what a court would decide, but as far as I'm concerned (and because of your excellent research), it's case closed on Lechmere. There are just far too many coincidences with this creep. Excellent work!
The court could only respond to what Lechmere himself had to say. It would be very interesting to see what he would have had to say if confronted, for sure.
We can apply Occam’s razor here: the simplest explanation is usually the right one. There are far too many coincidences re Lechmere for him, he’s 100% JTR in my opinion.
Hello from Tasmania! I am always thrilled to see a new video from Edward. I always had a passing interest in the Ripper case, but was very much of the view that it was one of those things for which we would never have an answer. Then I saw the Christer Holmgren documentary and in recent years I was fortunate enough to stumble upon The House of Lechmere and my mind was completely changed. I'm a sceptic by nature, but the fact that Lechmere/Cross was witnessed by Robert Paul essentially standing over the very, very recently deceased (or possibly dying) body of Polly Nichols in an otherwise empty street was for me a complete game-changer. All the 'circumstantial' and corroborative/supporting evidence (such as the geographical, family history and psychological analysis - all of which are legitimate forms of evidence used in modern criminal cases, I might add!) that Edward provides has done nothing but convince me further that Charles Lechmere is the man. I am so impressed by the quality of your research, Edward - please keep the fascinating videos coming! (PS I often wonder whether, had there been less confusion/obfuscation around the discovery of Polly Nichols, the police might have paid closer attention to Lechmere/Cross and the subsequent murders would never have occurred. I believe that Lechmere was very lucky and also very clever in capitalising on the uncertainty and confusion.) PSS - Poor tiger. 😢
You've got it in a nutshell. No other suspect was seen by someone else lingering alone and acting suspiciously right next to the body of one of the victims at or near the time of death and with nobody else in sight or sound. Only Lechmere.
Another excellent episode, Ed. Your East End knowledge and research is unparalleled. The 'coincidences' are mind boggling. I can't believe there are still people who claim Lechmere is a poor suspect. I have to say, Pinchin Street has always felt the most Rippery to me, whenever I've been there on a quiet dark night. Just something about the place. Cheers. Great work.
Yes, that’s quite interesting. In and of themselves, they’re inconsequential - but once they start piling up, and you really consider the implications, the weight of circumstantial evidence really does become rather compelling. That is still not to say that the case is ironclad and that Lechmere is definitely and one hundred per cent without a shadow of a doubt the guilty party - but, if the case were tried today, it would more than likely be sufficient to convict on the basis of reasonable doubt being almost entirely non-existent. There are just too many coincidences, where both juries and judges tend to be allergic to coincidences. Now, Lechmere could simply be ‘the unluckiest man in history’ as Christer Holmgren said in his interviews and the documentaries, but the law also operates on the basis of a reduction to simplest terms logic and according to the principles of plausibility rather than absolute certainty such that luck is by and large eliminated from the equation. A conviction would not be a surprise at all insofar as Lechmere is concerned. He’s right up there.
Hopefully, this November, with the grace of God. You are a supreme researcher, by far, the best of all the RUclips Ripper presenters. I look forward to the next chapter of the case for Lechmere. I am firmly convinced of his guilt.
The term 'jack' was a name given to denote any fit young man.. Jack and Jill, jolly jack tar, spring heeld jack, jack the lad, jack and the beanstalk, jack of all trades ect. And of course.. Jack the ripper. 😮👍
My name is Jackie. Boy, when I started my interest in jtr when I was 12, I got so much crap for it. But, after bringing Donald Rumbelows book to school for show and tell back in 1979, it opened a lot of eyes!
I sooooo want to visit the East End! I visited London way back in 1989, but I did not have the time to go there and I was 21, I was scared to get lost. Ha! I'd go now, all by myself.
Im happy you show the locations and describe what has changed or what has not. I dont suppose i will make it to England and visit the Ripper sites So i will visit thru your videos
18:14 Those eyes. Hard man. Eyes like a white shark. Doesn’t mean he’s definitely the killer**, of course, but he’s most certainly not a man you’d have crossed. ** It’s a real shame there isn’t a photo of him in his late twenties or early to mid-thirties to compare to the sketches and witness statements.
I'll comment as you've asked me to, saying that I find your videos most intriguing. You do a very great job presenting. I'm commenting from Pueblo Colorado.
You have produuced such in depth documetntaries and evidence on Jack the ripper. I am sure you have been the closest to identifying the perpetrator. Thank you I look forward to the next evidence packed documetary👍👍
I would advise re watching these episodes, I have and heard stuff I'd missed first time. Anyway, I did, as you recommended, to get the book Cutting Point by Christer Holmgren. It is an excellent read. First book I've read for a long time. Finished it today. The last chapter is MIND-BLOWING. Hip hip hooray, for you both Ed and Christer for revealing the identity of Jack the ripper.
Yey. Credit where Credit is due, Christer. I was hoping for you to pop in. I am 57 and have been obsessed with unsolved crimes, particularly murder for a long time. I cannot get enough
Excellent and fascinating research into the Lechmere surroundings of youth. If possible, please look more into family connections and associates. Possibly there's something more to the Pelican shield from the previous video secret societies freemasonry sacrifices etc. Yet again another superb video from the researcher, Thank you Edward !
If she was then the location is just off from a route to his work. Very convenient. In one of his videos, Ed makes a point that he might have walked with Robert Paul along Hanbury Street so as not to draw attention to his usual route along Old Montague Street, near where Tabram was killed. It's a very good theory.
You've inspired me to go to Whitechapel for a wander next time im in London Edward, though someone wrote in one of the comments that it's a dodgy area at night. So i will go in the daytime. Im sure the Lipski method of murder would have highlighted for Lechmere one of the methods NOT to use if he wanted to get away with his foul deeds, since Lipski was caught, which may well then have got him considering which methods would work. I believe he would have killed far more women in their rooms were it not so risky for him to be seen entering and leaving such heavily populated areas. In the streets he didn't have so much time to 'express' himself with his victims but at least he was able to hear potential witnesses coming before they saw him. Thanks for the video
I do agree with what you say. I also wonder the location of the murders also centred around vulnerable women where he could access victims and in a secluded place. In this sense it doesn’t necessarily mean that the connection of “Cross” is so solid because that’s where the easiest victims worked.
Another 2 questions how old was Lettchmere when Mary Kelly was so brutally murdered. Just wondered if a degree of his firness would have been required to cary out such a terrible attack on Mary Kelly. and do you think that she was his last victim? ⚘️ Thank you
Excuse me, but I've always thaught it was the offender (witch I by the way don't think is identical with JtR - too many discrepancies in modus operandi there) in Berner Street that shouted out "Lipski!" (10:51). Interesting theory on the white knight though... And by the way Mr Stow, was the Lipski grafitto in Pinchinn Street (13:19) written by chalk or was it perhaps painted? Was it the latter way it may indicate to have been there for a quite a while, and therefore more of a coincidence regarding the torso.
Hi Edward, In terms of who lived where and when. In the case of Robert Paul, in 1881 Robert Paul’s parents and three of his brothers lived at 108 BRADY STREET! I’ll need to check the electoral rolls for subsequent years to see if they still lived there in 1888 when I look into it all again. His brother James in 1881 lived at 5 Bedford Street, this street doesn't exist anymore, but is basically what is today's Sidney Street (no more than two streets away from The Royal London Hospital) and was a crime hotbed. He had an older sister Sarah (married a Johnson) that in 1881 lived at 13 New Church Street (this street has been demolished and built over upon) but I believe it was just North of Hanbury Street (and Cobbet’s Place). Robert Paul’s parents died either side of ‘The Autumn of Terror’, his father in 1887 and his mother in 1889.
@@thehouseoflechmere9407 EXACTLY Edward! It's as tenuous as the evidence for guilt that you have presented for Lechmere in your last two videos...... Hopefully now you see my point in my previous comment? Just as Robert Paul being raised and living in the area, like 1000's of other men at the time, Lechmere is no different to them, the same can be said for all of them. They all would have experienced similar upbringings and exposure to vice.
@andy5xcool No because the places you mentioned for Paul are generalised 'East End' locations with no specific attachment to any event in Paul's childhood that could have been formative. Totally unlike Lechmere's.
@@thehouseoflechmere9407 You know this how? I'm sure you're aware Robert Paul was consciously afraid of "that particular spot' in Buck's Row because so many people had been knocked down there. It wasn't an over night thing to be afraid of that spot. His parents and brothers living in the very street attached to it Brady Street means Robert Paul could have personally witnessed an event there that was formative. You've mentioned several times before that Lechmere's living descendants didn't know about his involvement in the JTR case and that this is an anomaly and is a strike against Lechmere. Have you done a control test for this claim? Have you found and asked living descendants of Robert Paul, P.C.'s Mizen, Thain and Neill, John Richardson, George Hutchinson etc... if they knew of their ancestors involvement in the case?
Just to pre-empt any jokes to my remark of "Robert Paul could have personally witnessed an event there that was formative" and the reply being : "well he witnessed Lechmere there!".
I can barely contain my inquisitive nature of all this Amazing History. Mr. Stow is absolutely World Class Detective of History. It’s just amazing! Lechmere was A Devil 😈 His upbringing & twisted mental state must of been of complete Rage & Murderous Thoughts of these unfortunate women in WhiteChaple . His Mother was the catalyst of his Evil Deeds Thank You So Much Edward Stow From Mikes Grill & BBQ on RUclips here in Los Angeles CA. Cheers 🥂 🇬🇧🇺🇸🏴😎👍🙏
Lechmere had mommy issues. Like the cat brings its trophies home to proud mum's doorstep, no coincidence the proximity to the cats meat shed. I can't help but wonder if he was sending messages or trying to scare his daughter into returning. All that genital mutilation and womb removal business screams Oedipus Complex! Dark obsession with his daughter and deep hatred of his mother, i suspect, is the root of the trauma. A bit of psychological armchair detecting and speculation probably, but can't be any worse than the Tumbelty womb collection or HRH Masonic, mad doctor, eliminate a whore scheme 😂
I have a couple of observations about the Nichols murder. Wouldn't Lechmere have made sure that he knew the routes and times of the beats made by the relevant policemen? If so, he could have quite confidently told Mizen that another policeman was with the body as he would have been sure that another PC would have found it by then. Secondly, if it's correct that Jack met the victims on the main roads through Whitechapel and then led them, or was led, to the murder sites, he must have left his house well before the stated time in order to be sure that he could pick up a woman, go with her to the murder site, have time to kill and mutilate her and still get to work.
I agree, I think Lechmere knew when each policeman would be passing through certain streets. That’s why he knew PC Neil would’ve found the body, that’s why he could tell PC Mizen.
It's totally beyond me how anyone, after watching "The Missing Evidence" feat. Christer Holmgren and Edward's series "The Evidence for Guilt", can still argue that nothing indicates Lechmere. Of course there'll never be hard evidence against him like fingerprints, DNA samples, or the man himself caught on camera, but the circumstantial evidence in his case is mindblowing and overwhelming. Lechmere, as the only one of the "usual suspects" btw, exceeds the point at which one could still talk of unlucky coincidences by a country mile. He's like a forest of red flags, basically unheard of with a truly innocent person, and the more he's investigated the more details come up that fit the picture. The case against him is extremely compelling to say the very least. A prosecutor today, knowing all we know now, would have much more questions for Lechmere to answer than an innocent person should ever have to answer. Which again is, of course, a huge red flag of its own.
Hello ed great information on this video again,question for u,on a previous vid 'ur questions answered' u quote dr brown inquest report on eddowes 'the lobe and auricle ' part which is true,and the sketch which showes no left ear,all correct, it states this on wiki pedia as u point,and is pointed out in varous books on this subject..but have u noticed on the jack the ripper casebook ,in all newspaper reports on dr browns inquest deposition about c eddowes ,it only says lobe,but doesnt include auricle,where it used to say,lobe and auricle,and ive seen the lobe and auricle quote numerous times in the past.its strange perhaps u could check it for urself to see what im on about.cheers ed all the best.
@@thehouseoflechmere9407 any luck ed? Ive found a report in the irish times 5oct which says lobe and auricle but the uk paper reports like the times evening news telegraph and a few other dont include the auricle anymore
@leslierock5005 Patience, patience. The wording is from Dr Frederick Gordon Brown's written inquest report filed with the City of London, now at the London Metropolitan Archives, with the other written reports for the Catherine Eddowes inquest. It is quoted in the Evans and Skinner, Jack the Ripper Sourcebook.
@@thehouseoflechmere9407 brilliant stuff ed,its just the weirdest thing,i remember seeing it in jtr casebook press reports ,in uk based papers ,and now the word auricle is no more. Ive heard so many people over the years say it was just the lobe cut off.in sugdens book he quotes dr brown autopsy report ,which includes the lobe and auricle but later in his book sugden says it was only the lobe when dismissing the dear boss letter. All very stange ed.thanks for having a look.
Hi Edward - I love these videos - just when I think there can't be more that points the finger straight at Lechmere, there is! Assuming the Goulston St. graffiti was done by Lechmere and he was the person who shouted Lipski - I wonder if he could have been trying to frame someone in particular? It just made me think of your theory about him killing Annie Chapman close to where Robert Paul worked in order to hint at it being him. I don't suppose there's any chance that Robert Paul was Jewish?? 😄
@@thehouseoflechmere9407 Do you not think it possible that the killer may have painted 'Lipski' on the fence to heighten the fear of the local population through the suggestion that Lipski had returned to kill again from beyond the grave? Victorians were a superstitious lot, even in the later 1880s so what an additional thrill to gain by creating a situation that might look like a supernatural murderer was on the loose, uncatchable and to all intents and purposes invisible.
Thoroughly enjoying your work and have newly subscribed. One question if you wouldn’t mind addressing it, what theory do you have in terms of why Lechmere might have stopped killing as he went on to live to a ripe old age ?
If it was Lechmere doing these murders, he seems to have been a very craft guy. Would that be something unusual at the time and place where he lived? I mean, would he have been an oddity among his fellow citizens? I am thinking about all that poverty and rough lifestyle in the area at the time. Just a thought.^^
Just because people are born into poverty and ignorance doesn’t mean they’re stupid. If Lechmere is the guy, I’d be willing to bet he had a certain rat cunning about him. “Street smarts” we call it nowadays. The presumption, if he’s guilty, is that he could read and write, which supports the fact he was a shop assistant later in life where those skills would have been a definite asset. This suggests some possibility he could have been the killer if the graffiti and the letters are taken to be genuine. Combine the two and what you’ve got is a portrait of a killer who would definitely have had his wits about him. Plus, given the family name, he probably did think himself cut from better cloth than the social classes he’d have mingled with in Whitechapel. Actually, it’s very easy to imagine him holding classist views because of it, and amongst the myriad other possible influences from his formative years Ed Stow has taken us through, I can most certainly see how his psychopathy might have developed. Plotted on the map, at least, the fact he’s the only suspect who has any connection to some of these areas looks an awful lot like game over if you ask me. Utterly compelling as a suspect - and “compelling” is precisely the sort of narrative that wins prosecuting barristers their trials in court when there’s an absence of hard evidence (e.g., witnesses or a body).
Yes, feliscorax, just as you say, even if a defence lawyer would be able to get him off on grounds of possible doubt, he would nevertheless be the only suspect to warrant a trial. And thereby, he is in a league totally of his own. Nobody comes even close. He did not become a shop assistant later in life, he had his own shop, meaning he would have been both ambitious and knowledgeable. I believe his Lechmere legacy would have made himself simmer with a concoction of pride and a sence of bereavement. And that is a powerful brew.
@@christerholmgren335My mistake, Christer, and thank you for the correction: I’ve seen different statements on this, but if he was a business owner, then that just about sells me on the possible authenticity of the “Dear Boss” letters, too, given their comparative level of literacy (not perfect, by any stretch, and also somewhat idiomatic). He’d definitely have thought himself better than the hoi polloi, I reckon.
Excellent work into the the possibility of Lechmere being the ripper and torso murderer. Any hand writing samples of Lechmere (census maybe) to match against the anti semitic graffiti on the wall where Eddowes apron was found. The letters (Dear Boss etc) could of been written by anyone however the graffiti on the wall where Eddowes apron was left is more likely been left by the ripper, suggesting the ripper may have been anti semitic and a synagogue nearby the Eddowes murder site. If Lechmere was the ripper, then why would he stop, generally killers such as this don't normally stop (arguable). I believe the ripper was responsible for more than the Cano logical five. would of been good if PC Mizen done a body search of Lechmere and Paul at the time when he was knocking on doors, however Lechmere was in the meat trade as a delivery carter. I watched all episodes more than once. Well done Edward for all the brilliant research.
DNA Testing is actually far less reliable than crime dramas would have us believe. It's never actually "Your exact DNA was found at the scene!" it's "some of your DNA markers line up with some of the markers found on the sample the lab tested, so *they* believe you are likely the source, given the circumstances." But there's always the risk of contamination from other sources, even when it is carefully handled. Since any actual piece of evidence from the Ripper murders would have had over a century to become contaminated at this point, the chances of solving the case based on DNA is zero. Fortunately, the circumstantial case against Lechmere is pretty overwhelming.
A bit late to the game, but thank you mr. Stow for the outstanding content. I watched most of the videos where you explain the "red flags" against Lechmere and, for what it's worth, from all I read and watched he is hands down the best suspect, but there is just one thing that does not allow me to be 100% convinced. I know you mentioned that him giving the name Cross helped him basically avoid being investigated in the first few days after Polly Nichols murder, but I still can't wrap my head around the fact that someone didn't put two and two together and start making further inquiries about the man who was first seen literally on the first crime scene. As you said, right next to the body or the middle of the street does not really matter, that person should have been thoroughly investigated before ruling him out. Was communication that bad between police? Thank you again!!!
I think that an important factor in the failure of the police to look closer at Lechmere, was that they had embarrassed themselves badly by claiming that PC Neil was the finder of the body. They flat out denied Pauols story, up until Lechmere emerged from the woodwork. I believe that would have meant that they were reluctant to take the risk of questioning anything Lechmere said. Whether I am right or wrong about that, it also remains that neither the police, the press or any of the scores of ripperologists saw the explosive power built into Lechmere until after a hundred years had passed. And all of that time, the evidence was there! So even if we regard it as mindboggling that somebody could fail to see his potential guilt, we should take into account that we have on record that it is actually something that took a century and more before somebody said ”Hey, wait a sec here …!”
@@christerholmgren335 I think it’s an immense credit to yourself and Ed Stow to have re-examined the evidence as you have done, particularly in following up this line of enquiry. Does it necessarily have to be because the police embarrassed themselves, though? What I mean is, if this is assumed to have been the first murder in a series (debatable, but let’s give the police the benefit of the doubt here), or even simply a murder committed in isolation until the other bodies started to show up, does it really make much difference who found it first? More pertinently, assuming his guilt here, even considering he basically blagged his way past the police with the false name and the false narrative, there seems to have been no procedural follow up. That, to me, speaks either to a lack of established investigative protocols in Scotland Yard’s policing when dealing with a murder scene, any witness, etc.; or, less charitably, it is a reflection on their incompetence and/or laziness. That it was later revealed that their working theory of knowledge was that they were looking for an obvious madman and probably a foreigner (because, of course, nobody English could possibly commit so heinous and brazen a series of murders as dear old Jack) suggests to me that embarrassment isn’t the primary explanation here. I reckon he was able to get away with it because, as an ordinary looking Englishman with a family and steady job, the police - and everyone subsequently - were simply cognitively blinded to the inconsistencies and spooky coincidences. Not you, Christer, but then, you are Swedish so have not got as much skin in the game…
@@christerholmgren335Thank you for your answer, Christer. I think I can go along with that thinking, too. There’s clearly lots going on in this case, but being English myself (and working class), I guess what I’m trying to do is think my way through the various puzzles of this case in such a way that makes sense given my own cultural experiences. Endlessly fascinating this is! I still do think there are certain evidentiary and procedural matters of English law that potentially weigh the scales of justice away from Lechmere (i.e., a good defence barrister might be able to squeeze him through the eye of the needle that is reasonable doubt), but these are minor if they’re even a problem at all. Present this case as it stands to the Crown Prosecution Service and I reckon a warrant for his arrest would be issued. That’s what a lot of the naysayers are missing: the CPS doesn’t require a case to be 100 per cent proven in order to issue the arrest warrant because testing the burden of proof is exactly what the law courts and trial by jury are for.
I don´t think that we are supposed to accept that perhaps having heard about the Jamrach tiger incident would in any way prove guilt in the Ripper murders on Charles Lechmeres behalf. And Edward Stow will be totally aware of this too. What I instead believe he is doing, is to try and form as deep and wide a picture as possible of the circumstances surrounding the life of Charles Lechmere, because all we say, do and think will always be coloured by these circumstances. So while I agree with you that no direct legal implications of guilt follow from the kind of material presented here, I do think that it offers an insight about the context that once helped to mould Charles Lechmere into whatever it was he became. Of course, if we reason that scores of people grew up in the same neighbourhood, and were subjected to the same exact set of occurences without turning into serial killers, it seems that the statistically better bid is that the surroundings were more likely to shape non serial killers than serial killers - but the point Edward is likely making is that once we have somebody within whom a bad seed exists from the beginning, then the kind of surroundings he or she grows up under will be more or less likely to help that seed to grow. if we grow up under the kind of circumstances the wealthy and protected Lechmeres in Herefordshire did or if we grow up in an environment of great need, sharp tiger teeth and sordid murder, may well play a large role for the growing conditions of the seed inside you. That, at least, is what I think is part of the wider picture of evidence Edward Stow is pointing to. I believe that future videos will further clarify this take on things, but let´s wait and see!
In the Buck's row at the time of Polly Nichols murder - Was there any other entrance than Brady St. in the east and Baker's row in the west? Any crossing street/line/row ?
There were quite a few, off the top of my head : Court Street, Queen Ann street, Winthrope street, Woods building alley and of course Thomas Street, from where P.C. Neill entered Buck's Row.
Thanks for the reply. Knowing many having done the same thousands of times before tried to figure out if there was any chance or route (or time) for Jack to hide as he heard Lechmere to enter to Buck's Row. Concidering here Lechmere weren't Jack. Me myself have watched many of Ed's videos and am about to read Christer's The Cutting Point and have already kind of bought the theory of Lechmere's being Jack. "The last nail into the coffin" was as I today for hours of time compared the handwritings of Lechmere and the ones in Jack's letters (especially the Dear Boss letter) Thanks Ed for the work you do it's most interesting take on the East London murders of that time, in fact, addictive 😁👍
@@masan7452 Yes, there were many routes for the killer to escape Buck's Row as Lechmere was approaching. It's arguably the easiest of the crime scenes to escape from. We have to remember he managed to escape far more awkward and enclosed crime scenes than Buck's Row, where there were many people surrounding and overlooking the crime scenes, and nobody witnessed him (leaving post murder anyway.....).
@@thehouseoflechmere9407 To quote you Edward "Many of which had witnesses effectively blocking any culprit's unseen exit". Would that have been the same witnesses that effectively would have seen the culprit's and Polly Nichols' entrance into Buck's Row?
Just reading Cristers book and have picked up on his highly informative point that the Ripper was trying to image the women like the models in that era, with the organs on display. My gosh if this is correct, it makes perfect sense that the Ripper and the Torso murderer may well be the exact same person. So what if he's employing a different mode of operation from a superficial perspective. If Crister is right about that link with the models in museums, that does it for me: the Torso murderer is evidently employing THE SAME mode of operation, because he's still trying to display female bodies as of they are models.
in other documented evidence knowledge of anatomy is said to have been required did letchmere have such knowledge and you also mentioned in a video that you believed letchmere wrote the dear boss letters does it match letchmeres handwriting ? I worked in whitechapel about 7 years but now right next to russell square and go along copenhagen street on my in, hope it doesn’t make me a suspect lol but seriously these questions have been raised about the handwriting and anatomy knowledge you sort of covered the anatomy question by the displays letchmere visited, just wondering if you ever checked the handwriting i guess would be pretty damning evidence if it did
Well one thing to come out of the series, if he is the one, a lot of pain and suffering could have been avoided, if the Police had of dug a bit deeper, he was the first on the scene, with Bucks Row Murder. Should have been thoroughly checked out, whoever was on the list of names, who were present at the inquest. Every person who Raised their right hand, should have had the addresses checked, names, birth details, titles of property, to match the details given on the day of the inquest, when his use of the name Cross, could have been raised with him. Why did you lie under oath, about the name you used, and what else have you lied about, could have been put to him, or better still, say nothing let him think he got away with it, and keep a watch on his movements, with the Police waiting to pounce, at the right time, unfortunately that never happened. And the use of Dogs to get on the scent, they had dogs on Estates for Poachers, why didn't they have a dog anywhere available, to get on the trail.
What would the police have found if they searched his home? If he was clever, as a family man he would have probably kept his murder weapon concealed at another location. It would be unlikely (given he was married) that he would have had trophies of his victims strung up around his house. He would have looked like an ordinary guy. The Cross thing could have been explained easily as he had already used the name at a previous inquest where he was innocent of any crime; the inference being if he used the name when he was innocent, why should it be assumed that he is guilty for using it on this occasion? If the police had suspicions they may have placed a watch on Letchmere to get a closer look at his activities. Unfortunately they didn't. But since he wasn't killing every day, for the most part he would have seemed very unremarkable.
@@huckleberry10ful Some rings were taken from one of the Murders, Annie Chapman , he could of had a some items at his Mothers place, it is not only your own address that is searched, what other contacts he might have had, also could be searched. It could have opened a whole avenue of trails, the name Cross used like you mentioned, he was never challenged with his use of the name, at any time he used it, that's why it was never an issue for him, and probably why he used it again at the inquest into the Bucks Row Murder, because nothing came of it on the other occasion. When catching a suspect, Patience is the number one rule of the game, no matter, how unremarkable a suspect might appear, the most miniscule of detail, or lack of anything tangible, could change very quickly, once one stone is turned, then another is turned after that, and so on.
@@thehouseoflechmere9407 can't help thinking that in this day and age with rhe technological advances and the serious investigations since 1888 whether it might be warranted?
Did Mary Jane Kelly live in the most south dark dot, near L's mother and where L.s children went to school. Is that the connection of Mary to Charles. So perhaps they knew each other from then ???
@@thehouseoflechmere9407 Spooky. I thought there was no connection to Victim 5, but now it seems Charles possible knew Mary. I did read a comment, that Mary knew who JR's identity was.
King British, No other suspect was SEEN BY SOMEONE ELSE lingering alone and acting suspiciously right next to the body of one of the victims at or near the time of death and with nobody else in sight or sound.
King British, Robert Paul said he was suspicious of the guy up ahead (Lechmere) and a bit concerned about him. Lechmere was hanging around acting suspiciously right next to the body of one of the victims. This is fact.
KingBritish ""stood right over the body at all." You've made that up. I never said he was stood over the body. I said he was right next to it, which he was. The road was right next to the body. Try and pay attention.
Previous videos were quite interesting, making some really good points but this one is far-fetched. It would be more convincing if we had info of his actual childhood and traumatic experiences if there were any. Obviously this is impossible to know, it's all speculation. We know nothing of this man, his personality, his ability to form relationships, the family he created, his temper. Nothing. No evidence, not possible to find out any crucial information about him
For me, it is the precise fact that we DO have crucial information and evidence at our hands, that has made Charles Lechmere the strongest suspect there has ever been.
@@christerholmgren335 do we? What was he like as a person? How did his co-workers find him? Was he a caring husband? Did he play with his children? Did he have close friends? Was he loyal and supportive person? Did he keep to himself mostly? Was he happy? A simple man wanting simple things in life? I don't think we can ever find out many things about a person who died 100 years ago. Birth and death certificates, contracts he may have signed, yes. But we infer and speculate based on too little. We can't turn back time and do actual investigation on this man or any man of that time. I too am fascinated by history and all the facts people were able to dig but i see the numerous limitations...
@@annafrufru2962 I was not referring to us having evidence of personal traits. Just as you say, we do not have any such evidence. The evidence I pointed to was the evidence relating to his ”finding” the body of Polly Nichols in Bucks Row. Many say that we do. Ot have any evidence at all against the carman, but that is emphatically untrue. When it comes to evidence about his personal traits, the one thing that coujld provide it today would be if any written sources, like letters and such, was discovered, in which he was described. And to be honest, even if that was to happen, it would likely not provide any conclusive evidence anyway; many people who knew serial killers would have described them as good guys, for the simple reason that they many times masquerade to that effect. It all boils down to psychology, in a sense, and psychology is a very thin and slippery ice to stand on.
@@christerholmgren335I acknowledge you have a case against him but I've been thinking he might have given the name Cross because he would have to take the day off from work in order to go and testify. Since that was the name he used at work, he would have to. Maybe the policeman did not rush to the crime scene and this is why he said that he had been informed that a colleague of his was already there, just to excuse himself for not taking the matter seriously. I mean, there are tons of other people who lived in the "hot spot" where the crimes were committed... And so on. We can find reasons to suspect Lechmere and reasons to acquit him. What if he was just an honest working man who just happened to be there minutes after the murderer had left? And now his name is blackened and tied to this monster for centuries to come? I wouldn't want that for myself even after death. And this is why i question so much. It's all about circumstances. I would really really like to see this case solved and find out who this murderer was. However, i do believe it is impossible. Most police paperwork is missing. No hard evidence. To me, it probably was a man who was never suspected or mentioned. A man who we haven't even heard of. And this is disappointing. Anyhow, this line of investigation is interesting. For me mostly historically. Lots of fascinating information about the era and its people. I learnt so much about Victorian England, the unfortunate people of Whitechapel, the story of this man, Lechmere.
It completely goes without saying that there is a huge amount we don't know and can never know. We can only go on what we do know and that includes background information concerning events around where he lived.
I've been enjoying your videos immensely. I'd like to add on to this. the graffiti, after the double event, most likely referring to the controversy surrounding Lipski. He was fond beneath his victim's bed with acid in his mouth. He tried to blame his two employees. The jury took eight minute, yet there was a huge controversy surrounding whether or not he ought to be executed based solely on the evidence at trial and even queen Victoria was involved. This became a topic of much coverage in the Pall Mall Gazette at the time. The writing. like "lipski" at the site of the torso, could easily be a reference to the on going controversy, and be a misquote of something he read or heard, that to him summed up the controversy. You have an excellent point about the setting and influences, and I wish more time was spent looking at things this way. Lechmere and Hutchinson are my two biggest suspects, for the same reason (which you made clear): delayed inquest appearances. I'd love to chat more about this, as I'm a writer and do much historical research, and I don't think all the murders are necessarily linked, but may be a couple copycats of one original strand
These videos get me so close to the motivations of Jack the ripper, that I feel Charles is the only possible suspect!!
Edward Stow is a first class presenter/researcher, with a fascenating and compelling case in regards to the identity of Jack the Ripper. I for one am convinced Edward Stow has solved this case by naming Lechmere.
Thank you!
I agree.
Great video very informative.
We all evidently have different opinions on this but it is common practice to look into local background details
I concur , very interesting video as usual ed
It would be extremely interesting if the existing photo of Lechmere could be enhanced in a reverse aging photo process to see him as he would have appeared around 1888. It might give a slightly better idea of how he would square with several witness observations of potential suspects, especially in the case of Elizabeth Stride. "Lipsky" as a reference to assault on women is noteworthy.
Maybe yes but couldn't it just be a random insult at anyone foreign to the speaker? Or couldn't the name caller just have been wrong like witnesses today have proven to be?
Edward Stow is a fantastic presenter. I was born in Grey Eagle Street in 1962 and always fascinated by the Jack the Ripper murders. I am convinced that Lechmere is the Ripper.
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@@thehouseoflechmere9407 To Not include that he said his surname was Cross due to the Fact that was his stepfather's surname is pointing to your Deceit about the Truth. Stop calling him Jack the Ripper, there is Zero evidence that he was & your 'reasoning' to accuse him & put that about is Ludicrous.
@bethryan9077
I've mentioned that his stepfather was called cross multiple times and that this is obviously the inspiration for his use of that name.
You are only going to look totally foolish by making rash and unfounded accusations, and I really don't want you to look like an idiot. So watch all the films. Every single one.
@@thehouseoflechmere9407 You need to watch your own show pal, you did Not say that. Deary, you haven't even shown any Proof that he Was actually Charles Cross. Having said that, if that is true, when one knows the family lineage of the surname Lechmere, anyone with 3 brain cells would Know why he used his stepfather's surname. Listen up lovey, it is You who's making the big Fool of yourself with your totally unfounded accusations against a nobody & your particularly childish braindead 'reasoning' as to why you have made him into Jack the Ripper as you State like an arrogant Twit. Now run along, I hear your momma calling you.
Audio has improved and more content keeps coming, it can't get better than this. It would be great if you could compare the FBI record on Jack the Ripper with some facts from Lechmere
"Lechmere's mother ran a cats meat dealership", as we look at a Dominos Pizza sign, LOL! Well you never know!
Ha - that was the location!
The graffiti read "Lipski" whereas these days, it would say "Banksy"🙄🙄🙄🙄
With all the circumstantial evidence you present in this (and the other videos), it's pretty hard to argue that Lechmere ISN'T the Ripper. I don't know what a court would decide, but as far as I'm concerned (and because of your excellent research), it's case closed on Lechmere. There are just far too many coincidences with this creep. Excellent work!
The court could only respond to what Lechmere himself had to say. It would be very interesting to see what he would have had to say if confronted, for sure.
We can apply Occam’s razor here: the simplest explanation is usually the right one. There are far too many coincidences re Lechmere for him, he’s 100% JTR in my opinion.
Lechmere is Jack the Ripper beyond a reasonable doubt by the standards of modern policing. Your work shows this, Edward. Well done indeed.
Thank you
The evidence at beet is circumstantial and ball. The police would do is dig deeper.
Hello from Tasmania! I am always thrilled to see a new video from Edward. I always had a passing interest in the Ripper case, but was very much of the view that it was one of those things for which we would never have an answer. Then I saw the Christer Holmgren documentary and in recent years I was fortunate enough to stumble upon The House of Lechmere and my mind was completely changed. I'm a sceptic by nature, but the fact that Lechmere/Cross was witnessed by Robert Paul essentially standing over the very, very recently deceased (or possibly dying) body of Polly Nichols in an otherwise empty street was for me a complete game-changer. All the 'circumstantial' and corroborative/supporting evidence (such as the geographical, family history and psychological analysis - all of which are legitimate forms of evidence used in modern criminal cases, I might add!) that Edward provides has done nothing but convince me further that Charles Lechmere is the man. I am so impressed by the quality of your research, Edward - please keep the fascinating videos coming! (PS I often wonder whether, had there been less confusion/obfuscation around the discovery of Polly Nichols, the police might have paid closer attention to Lechmere/Cross and the subsequent murders would never have occurred. I believe that Lechmere was very lucky and also very clever in capitalising on the uncertainty and confusion.) PSS - Poor tiger. 😢
You've got it in a nutshell. No other suspect was seen by someone else lingering alone and acting suspiciously right next to the body of one of the victims at or near the time of death and with nobody else in sight or sound. Only Lechmere.
Indeed VJC poor tiger. It was a brutal time for animals - as it still is in some areas of the world. I’m glad the little boy survived, though.
Can't get enough of your videos Edward. Thanks.
Another excellent episode, Ed. Your East End knowledge and research is unparalleled. The 'coincidences' are mind boggling. I can't believe there are still people who claim Lechmere is a poor suspect.
I have to say, Pinchin Street has always felt the most Rippery to me, whenever I've been there on a quiet dark night. Just something about the place.
Cheers. Great work.
Thank you. There will.always be some in denial.
Oh yes, don't we all know it. They think Druitt is more viable 😂.
Cheers Ed!!
I appreciate getting new information and further insight into the life of Lechmere. The work you do is impressive! Thanks Ed
Tremendous. I like how now you’re boiling down to more subtle details.
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Yes, that’s quite interesting. In and of themselves, they’re inconsequential - but once they start piling up, and you really consider the implications, the weight of circumstantial evidence really does become rather compelling. That is still not to say that the case is ironclad and that Lechmere is definitely and one hundred per cent without a shadow of a doubt the guilty party - but, if the case were tried today, it would more than likely be sufficient to convict on the basis of reasonable doubt being almost entirely non-existent. There are just too many coincidences, where both juries and judges tend to be allergic to coincidences. Now, Lechmere could simply be ‘the unluckiest man in history’ as Christer Holmgren said in his interviews and the documentaries, but the law also operates on the basis of a reduction to simplest terms logic and according to the principles of plausibility rather than absolute certainty such that luck is by and large eliminated from the equation. A conviction would not be a surprise at all insofar as Lechmere is concerned. He’s right up there.
Excellent video, Ed ! Thanks for all of your hard work. I miss seeing your jaunty hat !
Oh, how I would love to visit all the places which you have shown us with you as the guide!
You should!
Hopefully, this November, with the grace of God. You are a supreme researcher, by far, the best of all the RUclips Ripper presenters. I look forward to the next chapter of the case for Lechmere. I am firmly convinced of his guilt.
Always interesting, Edward - perfect accompaniment to my baked spuds and ginger cordial. BBBUUURRRPPP!!! My compliments to the chef.
Awesome research Edward. Love to one day walk down those streets myself.
Go for it!
Its well worth it if you can manage it one day. Or night.
Great research. Compelling stuff.
Glad you enjoyed it!
@@thehouseoflechmere9407 I believe that Lechmere threw the boy into the tiger's mouth. Don't you? LMAO.
Meticulous research and compelling fresh insights in every video. Could listen to you all day long, Edward. Thank you for this fascinating content!
My pleasure!
Fantastic presentation, and whats more, very convincing.
Great video. Sunday treat.
Very interesing film - thanks very much. The Lipsky link to the Goulston St graffiti is an interesting idea.
Intriguing
My new favourite YT channel. Thank you so much for the awesome content.
Glad you enjoy it!
@@thehouseoflechmere9407 Very much so. Binge watching your vids atm. Excellent work 👍
Excellent info / analysis Edward. I always look forward to your videos coming out. Great job.
Much appreciated!
Ace work as always. 👏🏽
Thanks again!
Fantastic research. Another quality video
Glad you enjoyed it
The term 'jack' was a name given to denote any fit young man.. Jack and Jill, jolly jack tar, spring heeld jack, jack the lad, jack and the beanstalk, jack of all trades ect. And of course.. Jack the ripper. 😮👍
My name is Jackie. Boy, when I started my interest in jtr when I was 12, I got so much crap for it. But, after bringing Donald Rumbelows book to school for show and tell back in 1979, it opened a lot of eyes!
And I'm a girl!
I sooooo want to visit the East End! I visited London way back in 1989, but I did not have the time to go there and I was 21, I was scared to get lost. Ha! I'd go now, all by myself.
I love how your presentations have evolved Mr Stow. Love your work.
Thank you kindly!
Absolutely Amazing. Thank You Sir So Much. Very Excellent Work You Do. Cheers 🥂 🇬🇧🏴
You are very welcome
Great video. Very informative.
Yet another very interesting video.Ty for sharing this Ed.
Glad you enjoyed it
Outstanding watch Edd, ill see you September 100%
Look forward to it!
Thanks for another great video Ed!
Thanks for watching!
Im happy you show the locations and describe what has changed or what has not.
I dont suppose i will make it to England and visit the Ripper sites So i will visit thru your videos
I'm glad you enjoyed them!
Another very informative video Ed. Did I see on one of the maps a reference to a Swedish hospital? Liz Stride link?
I love this channel it never ceases to entertain educate and intrigue 👌👌👌👌👌
Absolutely brilliant historically fascinating so well.told look forward to more from you ,thank you Edward
Thanks
Liked it before I even watched it because I just know the video is going to be of superb quality.
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Excellent, will watch tonight 👍
Hope you enjoy!
im gettin very near to bein totally convinced Lechmere is our man... enjoyed the vid 🙂xx
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18:14 Those eyes. Hard man. Eyes like a white shark. Doesn’t mean he’s definitely the killer**, of course, but he’s most certainly not a man you’d have crossed.
** It’s a real shame there isn’t a photo of him in his late twenties or early to mid-thirties to compare to the sketches and witness statements.
I'll comment as you've asked me to, saying that I find your videos most intriguing. You do a very great job presenting. I'm commenting from Pueblo Colorado.
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This was really interesting! Thanks ❤
Glad you enjoyed it!
Excellent research once again
That was a good one.... very enjoyable ❤
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You have produuced such in depth documetntaries and evidence on Jack the ripper. I am sure you have been the closest to identifying the perpetrator. Thank you I look forward to the next evidence packed documetary👍👍
Appreciated
Excellent research. I'm on board for lechmere as Jack!
Great!
I would advise re watching these episodes, I have and heard stuff I'd missed first time. Anyway, I did, as you recommended, to get the book Cutting Point by Christer Holmgren. It is an excellent read. First book I've read for a long time. Finished it today. The last chapter is MIND-BLOWING.
Hip hip hooray, for you both Ed and Christer for revealing the identity of Jack the ripper.
There is much more evidence now than when the TV doc came out.
I can almost hear Fred Abberline saying, you've got Jack the Ripper ar last
Thank you kindly, Sir!
Yey. Credit where Credit is due, Christer. I was hoping for you to pop in. I am 57 and have been obsessed with unsolved crimes, particularly murder for a long time. I cannot get enough
I genuinely want to help catch murderers I am not a ghoul, I just can't stand a mystery of a non natural death
I, myself have stabbed. It is not a good feeling
Excellent and fascinating research into the Lechmere surroundings of youth. If possible, please look more into family connections and associates. Possibly there's something more to the Pelican shield from the previous video secret societies freemasonry sacrifices etc. Yet again another superb video from the researcher, Thank you Edward !
More to come
This gives me chills. Do you think Martha Tabram was also a victim of JtR?
I think so.
Yes!
Check out my earlier videos
If she was then the location is just off from a route to his work. Very convenient. In one of his videos, Ed makes a point that he might have walked with Robert Paul along Hanbury Street so as not to draw attention to his usual route along Old Montague Street, near where Tabram was killed. It's a very good theory.
Very compelling Edward, these circumstantial locations must make lechmere NOT being Jack the Ripper as many millions to one.
@@KingBritishYou’ve figured it out! Who’s the killer? Please end the suspense quickly and publish a book.
He's certainly got more red flags than anyone else. He should be on the Liverpool Kop.
@@KingBritish you are too thick to understand
@@davesmith7432 it's already been written its called cutting point.
@@tonysmith3556 thank you cousin
Love your investigative skills. I think he wrote "Lipsky" where the torso was found to taunt the police.
I agree
Christie Holgrem has been a massive help to Stow , his research into the case as been unfaltering and his book is fascinating
You've inspired me to go to Whitechapel for a wander next time im in London Edward, though someone wrote in one of the comments that it's a dodgy area at night. So i will go in the daytime. Im sure the Lipski method of murder would have highlighted for Lechmere one of the methods NOT to use if he wanted to get away with his foul deeds, since Lipski was caught, which may well then have got him considering which methods would work. I believe he would have killed far more women in their rooms were it not so risky for him to be seen entering and leaving such heavily populated areas. In the streets he didn't have so much time to 'express' himself with his victims but at least he was able to hear potential witnesses coming before they saw him. Thanks for the video
Some interesting points. I obviously hang around the Whitechapel area a lot with film gear etc. It is mostly safe.
I do agree with what you say. I also wonder the location of the murders also centred around vulnerable women where he could access victims and in a secluded place. In this sense it doesn’t necessarily mean that the connection of “Cross” is so solid because that’s where the easiest victims worked.
Another 2 questions how old was Lettchmere when Mary Kelly was so brutally murdered. Just wondered if a degree of his firness would have been required to cary out such a terrible attack on Mary Kelly. and do you think that she was his last victim? ⚘️
Thank you
He was about 39 and I don't think she was the last victim
Thank you for the reply 👍👍
Excuse me, but I've always thaught it was the offender (witch I by the way don't think is identical with JtR - too many discrepancies in modus operandi there) in Berner Street that shouted out "Lipski!" (10:51). Interesting theory on the white knight though... And by the way Mr Stow, was the Lipski grafitto in Pinchinn Street (13:19) written by chalk or was it perhaps painted? Was it the latter way it may indicate to have been there for a quite a while, and therefore more of a coincidence regarding the torso.
It was the guy by the pub on the corner who shouted Lipski - I think. I don't think it was recorded how the graffiti was written
@@thehouseoflechmere9407 Thanks for the answer. I'm very much into details you know, as the Devil likes to dwell therein.
That is correct. According to Schwartz, the man attacking Stride is the one that shouted "Lipski".
Yes you are right although in his newspaper interview Schwartz implied it was the other man by the pub who said it.
The graffiti was in big chalk letters
Many people think he didn't write the letters,it was a reporter I do think it was Letchmere,he was found with one of the bodies
Hi Edward,
In terms of who lived where and when. In the case of Robert Paul, in 1881 Robert Paul’s parents and three of his brothers lived at 108 BRADY STREET! I’ll need to check the electoral rolls for subsequent years to see if they still lived there in 1888 when I look into it all again. His brother James in 1881 lived at 5 Bedford Street, this street doesn't exist anymore, but is basically what is today's Sidney Street (no more than two streets away from The Royal London Hospital) and was a crime hotbed. He had an older sister Sarah (married a Johnson) that in 1881 lived at 13 New Church Street (this street has been demolished and built over upon) but I believe it was just North of Hanbury Street (and Cobbet’s Place).
Robert Paul’s parents died either side of ‘The Autumn of Terror’, his father in 1887 and his mother in 1889.
None of that is indicative of anything.
@@thehouseoflechmere9407 EXACTLY Edward! It's as tenuous as the evidence for guilt that you have presented for Lechmere in your last two videos...... Hopefully now you see my point in my previous comment? Just as Robert Paul being raised and living in the area, like 1000's of other men at the time, Lechmere is no different to them, the same can be said for all of them. They all would have experienced similar upbringings and exposure to vice.
@andy5xcool
No because the places you mentioned for Paul are generalised 'East End' locations with no specific attachment to any event in Paul's childhood that could have been formative.
Totally unlike Lechmere's.
@@thehouseoflechmere9407 You know this how?
I'm sure you're aware Robert Paul was consciously afraid of "that particular spot' in Buck's Row because so many people had been knocked down there. It wasn't an over night thing to be afraid of that spot. His parents and brothers living in the very street attached to it Brady Street means Robert Paul could have personally witnessed an event there that was formative.
You've mentioned several times before that Lechmere's living descendants didn't know about his involvement in the JTR case and that this is an anomaly and is a strike against Lechmere. Have you done a control test for this claim? Have you found and asked living descendants of Robert Paul, P.C.'s Mizen, Thain and Neill, John Richardson, George Hutchinson etc... if they knew of their ancestors involvement in the case?
Just to pre-empt any jokes to my remark of "Robert Paul could have personally witnessed an event there that was formative" and the reply being : "well he witnessed Lechmere there!".
Terrific History of The Area where Charles Lechmere Lived, Edward😊🤲
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I can barely contain my inquisitive nature of all this Amazing History. Mr. Stow is absolutely World Class Detective of History. It’s just amazing! Lechmere was A Devil 😈 His upbringing & twisted mental state must of been of complete Rage & Murderous Thoughts of these unfortunate women in WhiteChaple . His Mother was the catalyst of his Evil Deeds Thank You So Much Edward Stow From Mikes Grill & BBQ on RUclips here in Los Angeles CA. Cheers 🥂 🇬🇧🇺🇸🏴😎👍🙏
Thank you... from England!
Lechmere had mommy issues. Like the cat brings its trophies home to proud mum's doorstep, no coincidence the proximity to the cats meat shed. I can't help but wonder if he was sending messages or trying to scare his daughter into returning. All that genital mutilation and womb removal business screams Oedipus Complex! Dark obsession with his daughter and deep hatred of his mother, i suspect, is the root of the trauma. A bit of psychological armchair detecting and speculation probably, but can't be any worse than the Tumbelty womb collection or HRH Masonic, mad doctor, eliminate a whore scheme 😂
I certainly think he had a mother complex
I have a couple of observations about the Nichols murder. Wouldn't Lechmere have made sure that he knew the routes and times of the beats made by the relevant policemen? If so, he could have quite confidently told Mizen that another policeman was with the body as he would have been sure that another PC would have found it by then. Secondly, if it's correct that Jack met the victims on the main roads through Whitechapel and then led them, or was led, to the murder sites, he must have left his house well before the stated time in order to be sure that he could pick up a woman, go with her to the murder site, have time to kill and mutilate her and still get to work.
I agree, I think Lechmere knew when each policeman would be passing through certain streets. That’s why he knew PC Neil would’ve found the body, that’s why he could tell PC Mizen.
I miss your old videos with the maps. You had some info in those omitted from these new ones.
It's totally beyond me how anyone, after watching "The Missing Evidence" feat. Christer Holmgren and Edward's series "The Evidence for Guilt", can still argue that nothing indicates Lechmere. Of course there'll never be hard evidence against him like fingerprints, DNA samples, or the man himself caught on camera, but the circumstantial evidence in his case is mindblowing and overwhelming. Lechmere, as the only one of the "usual suspects" btw, exceeds the point at which one could still talk of unlucky coincidences by a country mile. He's like a forest of red flags, basically unheard of with a truly innocent person, and the more he's investigated the more details come up that fit the picture. The case against him is extremely compelling to say the very least. A prosecutor today, knowing all we know now, would have much more questions for Lechmere to answer than an innocent person should ever have to answer. Which again is, of course, a huge red flag of its own.
Hello ed great information on this video again,question for u,on a previous vid 'ur questions answered' u quote dr brown inquest report on eddowes 'the lobe and auricle ' part which is true,and the sketch which showes no left ear,all correct, it states this on wiki pedia as u point,and is pointed out in varous books on this subject..but have u noticed on the jack the ripper casebook ,in all newspaper reports on dr browns inquest deposition about c eddowes ,it only says lobe,but doesnt include auricle,where it used to say,lobe and auricle,and ive seen the lobe and auricle quote numerous times in the past.its strange perhaps u could check it for urself to see what im on about.cheers ed all the best.
A intimate detail... but ai shall try to check.
@@thehouseoflechmere9407 sorry i should have said no right ear my mistake but anyway one ear was missing thank u ed
@@thehouseoflechmere9407 any luck ed? Ive found a report in the irish times 5oct which says lobe and auricle but the uk paper reports like the times evening news telegraph and a few other dont include the auricle anymore
@leslierock5005
Patience, patience.
The wording is from Dr Frederick Gordon Brown's written inquest report filed with the City of London, now at the London Metropolitan Archives, with the other written reports for the Catherine Eddowes inquest. It is quoted in the Evans and Skinner, Jack the Ripper Sourcebook.
@@thehouseoflechmere9407 brilliant stuff ed,its just the weirdest thing,i remember seeing it in jtr casebook press reports ,in uk based papers ,and now the word auricle is no more. Ive heard so many people over the years say it was just the lobe cut off.in sugdens book he quotes dr brown autopsy report ,which includes the lobe and auricle but later in his book sugden says it was only the lobe when dismissing the dear boss letter. All very stange ed.thanks for having a look.
Hi Edward - I love these videos - just when I think there can't be more that points the finger straight at Lechmere, there is!
Assuming the Goulston St. graffiti was done by Lechmere and he was the person who shouted Lipski - I wonder if he could have been trying to frame someone in particular? It just made me think of your theory about him killing Annie Chapman close to where Robert Paul worked in order to hint at it being him. I don't suppose there's any chance that Robert Paul was Jewish?? 😄
Paul wasn't Jewish. I think the Lipski thing and the Goulston Street graffiti were attempts at misdirection based on underlying anti semitism.
@@thehouseoflechmere9407 Do you not think it possible that the killer may have painted 'Lipski' on the fence to heighten the fear of the local population through the suggestion that Lipski had returned to kill again from beyond the grave? Victorians were a superstitious lot, even in the later 1880s so what an additional thrill to gain by creating a situation that might look like a supernatural murderer was on the loose, uncatchable and to all intents and purposes invisible.
Thoroughly enjoying your work and have newly subscribed. One question if you wouldn’t mind addressing it, what theory do you have in terms of why Lechmere might have stopped killing as he went on to live to a ripe old age ?
If it was Lechmere doing these murders, he seems to have been a very craft guy. Would that be something unusual at the time and place where he lived? I mean, would he have been an oddity among his fellow citizens? I am thinking about all that poverty and rough lifestyle in the area at the time. Just a thought.^^
What I think we can bank on, is that he would have considered himself something else if he was the killer.
@@christerholmgren335 Yeah, that's for sure.
Just because people are born into poverty and ignorance doesn’t mean they’re stupid. If Lechmere is the guy, I’d be willing to bet he had a certain rat cunning about him. “Street smarts” we call it nowadays. The presumption, if he’s guilty, is that he could read and write, which supports the fact he was a shop assistant later in life where those skills would have been a definite asset. This suggests some possibility he could have been the killer if the graffiti and the letters are taken to be genuine. Combine the two and what you’ve got is a portrait of a killer who would definitely have had his wits about him.
Plus, given the family name, he probably did think himself cut from better cloth than the social classes he’d have mingled with in Whitechapel. Actually, it’s very easy to imagine him holding classist views because of it, and amongst the myriad other possible influences from his formative years Ed Stow has taken us through, I can most certainly see how his psychopathy might have developed.
Plotted on the map, at least, the fact he’s the only suspect who has any connection to some of these areas looks an awful lot like game over if you ask me. Utterly compelling as a suspect - and “compelling” is precisely the sort of narrative that wins prosecuting barristers their trials in court when there’s an absence of hard evidence (e.g., witnesses or a body).
Yes, feliscorax, just as you say, even if a defence lawyer would be able to get him off on grounds of possible doubt, he would nevertheless be the only suspect to warrant a trial. And thereby, he is in a league totally of his own. Nobody comes even close. He did not become a shop assistant later in life, he had his own shop, meaning he would have been both ambitious and knowledgeable. I believe his Lechmere legacy would have made himself simmer with a concoction of pride and a sence of bereavement. And that is a powerful brew.
@@christerholmgren335My mistake, Christer, and thank you for the correction: I’ve seen different statements on this, but if he was a business owner, then that just about sells me on the possible authenticity of the “Dear Boss” letters, too, given their comparative level of literacy (not perfect, by any stretch, and also somewhat idiomatic). He’d definitely have thought himself better than the hoi polloi, I reckon.
Will christer be putting his book on Amazon audibles
So far, there are no such plans.
Excellent work into the the possibility of Lechmere being the ripper and torso murderer. Any hand writing samples of Lechmere (census maybe) to match against the anti semitic graffiti on the wall where Eddowes apron was found. The letters (Dear Boss etc) could of been written by anyone however the graffiti on the wall where Eddowes apron was left is more likely been left by the ripper, suggesting the ripper may have been anti semitic and a synagogue nearby the Eddowes murder site. If Lechmere was the ripper, then why would he stop, generally killers such as this don't normally stop (arguable). I believe the ripper was responsible for more than the Cano logical five. would of been good if PC Mizen done a body search of Lechmere and Paul at the time when he was knocking on doors, however Lechmere was in the meat trade as a delivery carter. I watched all episodes more than once. Well done Edward for all the brilliant research.
How can we compare to the Goulston Street grafitti? It was written in chalk on a wall and rubbed off soon after the crime.
I Agree that Lechmere is a very likely candidate, although I doubt he wrote the letters to be honest.
Is there no possibility of DNA on collected evidence?
I'm afraid not
DNA Testing is actually far less reliable than crime dramas would have us believe. It's never actually "Your exact DNA was found at the scene!" it's "some of your DNA markers line up with some of the markers found on the sample the lab tested, so *they* believe you are likely the source, given the circumstances." But there's always the risk of contamination from other sources, even when it is carefully handled. Since any actual piece of evidence from the Ripper murders would have had over a century to become contaminated at this point, the chances of solving the case based on DNA is zero. Fortunately, the circumstantial case against Lechmere is pretty overwhelming.
Wow the East End must have been a right mess in those days.
Arguably it still is.
Worse now 😂😂
A bit late to the game, but thank you mr. Stow for the outstanding content. I watched most of the videos where you explain the "red flags" against Lechmere and, for what it's worth, from all I read and watched he is hands down the best suspect, but there is just one thing that does not allow me to be 100% convinced. I know you mentioned that him giving the name Cross helped him basically avoid being investigated in the first few days after Polly Nichols murder, but I still can't wrap my head around the fact that someone didn't put two and two together and start making further inquiries about the man who was first seen literally on the first crime scene. As you said, right next to the body or the middle of the street does not really matter, that person should have been thoroughly investigated before ruling him out. Was communication that bad between police? Thank you again!!!
I think that an important factor in the failure of the police to look closer at Lechmere, was that they had embarrassed themselves badly by claiming that PC Neil was the finder of the body. They flat out denied Pauols story, up until Lechmere emerged from the woodwork. I believe that would have meant that they were reluctant to take the risk of questioning anything Lechmere said. Whether I am right or wrong about that, it also remains that neither the police, the press or any of the scores of ripperologists saw the explosive power built into Lechmere until after a hundred years had passed. And all of that time, the evidence was there! So even if we regard it as mindboggling that somebody could fail to see his potential guilt, we should take into account that we have on record that it is actually something that took a century and more before somebody said ”Hey, wait a sec here …!”
@@christerholmgren335 I think it’s an immense credit to yourself and Ed Stow to have re-examined the evidence as you have done, particularly in following up this line of enquiry. Does it necessarily have to be because the police embarrassed themselves, though? What I mean is, if this is assumed to have been the first murder in a series (debatable, but let’s give the police the benefit of the doubt here), or even simply a murder committed in isolation until the other bodies started to show up, does it really make much difference who found it first? More pertinently, assuming his guilt here, even considering he basically blagged his way past the police with the false name and the false narrative, there seems to have been no procedural follow up. That, to me, speaks either to a lack of established investigative protocols in Scotland Yard’s policing when dealing with a murder scene, any witness, etc.; or, less charitably, it is a reflection on their incompetence and/or laziness. That it was later revealed that their working theory of knowledge was that they were looking for an obvious madman and probably a foreigner (because, of course, nobody English could possibly commit so heinous and brazen a series of murders as dear old Jack) suggests to me that embarrassment isn’t the primary explanation here. I reckon he was able to get away with it because, as an ordinary looking Englishman with a family and steady job, the police - and everyone subsequently - were simply cognitively blinded to the inconsistencies and spooky coincidences. Not you, Christer, but then, you are Swedish so have not got as much skin in the game…
Hi Felix! Of course, police incomptence
Police incompetence could have done the trick. I regard the embarrasment factor as more of a padlock on the deal.
@@christerholmgren335Thank you for your answer, Christer. I think I can go along with that thinking, too. There’s clearly lots going on in this case, but being English myself (and working class), I guess what I’m trying to do is think my way through the various puzzles of this case in such a way that makes sense given my own cultural experiences. Endlessly fascinating this is!
I still do think there are certain evidentiary and procedural matters of English law that potentially weigh the scales of justice away from Lechmere (i.e., a good defence barrister might be able to squeeze him through the eye of the needle that is reasonable doubt), but these are minor if they’re even a problem at all. Present this case as it stands to the Crown Prosecution Service and I reckon a warrant for his arrest would be issued. That’s what a lot of the naysayers are missing: the CPS doesn’t require a case to be 100 per cent proven in order to issue the arrest warrant because testing the burden of proof is exactly what the law courts and trial by jury are for.
Are there any old photos of lechmeres mum?
No
Charles Booth mapped out his own cruel vile deeds - and he was untouchable.
I think he stopped because tumblety went back to America in late november, if he'd known about him already, what a godsend he was for lechmere
Do we know if Charles Lechmere was left handed.
No idea
I like the in-depth style and the history research is second to none, but to say these incidents are 'evidence of guilt' is frankly ludicrous.
I don´t think that we are supposed to accept that perhaps having heard about the Jamrach tiger incident would in any way prove guilt in the Ripper murders on Charles Lechmeres behalf. And Edward Stow will be totally aware of this too. What I instead believe he is doing, is to try and form as deep and wide a picture as possible of the circumstances surrounding the life of Charles Lechmere, because all we say, do and think will always be coloured by these circumstances. So while I agree with you that no direct legal implications of guilt follow from the kind of material presented here, I do think that it offers an insight about the context that once helped to mould Charles Lechmere into whatever it was he became. Of course, if we reason that scores of people grew up in the same neighbourhood, and were subjected to the same exact set of occurences without turning into serial killers, it seems that the statistically better bid is that the surroundings were more likely to shape non serial killers than serial killers - but the point Edward is likely making is that once we have somebody within whom a bad seed exists from the beginning, then the kind of surroundings he or she grows up under will be more or less likely to help that seed to grow. if we grow up under the kind of circumstances the wealthy and protected Lechmeres in Herefordshire did or if we grow up in an environment of great need, sharp tiger teeth and sordid murder, may well play a large role for the growing conditions of the seed inside you. That, at least, is what I think is part of the wider picture of evidence Edward Stow is pointing to. I believe that future videos will further clarify this take on things, but let´s wait and see!
Yes - and in essence i said that in the film!
In the Buck's row at the time of Polly Nichols murder - Was there any other entrance than Brady St. in the east and Baker's row in the west? Any crossing street/line/row ?
There were quite a few, off the top of my head : Court Street, Queen Ann street, Winthrope street, Woods building alley and of course Thomas Street, from where P.C. Neill entered Buck's Row.
Many of which had witnesses effectively blocking any culprit's unseen exit
Thanks for the reply. Knowing many having done the same thousands of times before tried to figure out if there was any chance or route (or time) for Jack to hide as he heard Lechmere to enter to Buck's Row. Concidering here Lechmere weren't Jack. Me myself have watched many of Ed's videos and am about to read Christer's The Cutting Point and have already kind of bought the theory of Lechmere's being Jack. "The last nail into the coffin" was as I today for hours of time compared the handwritings of Lechmere and the ones in Jack's letters (especially the Dear Boss letter) Thanks Ed for the work you do it's most interesting take on the East London murders of that time, in fact, addictive 😁👍
@@masan7452 Yes, there were many routes for the killer to escape Buck's Row as Lechmere was approaching. It's arguably the easiest of the crime scenes to escape from. We have to remember he managed to escape far more awkward and enclosed crime scenes than Buck's Row, where there were many people surrounding and overlooking the crime scenes, and nobody witnessed him (leaving post murder anyway.....).
@@thehouseoflechmere9407 To quote you Edward "Many of which had witnesses effectively blocking any culprit's unseen exit". Would that have been the same witnesses that effectively would have seen the culprit's and Polly Nichols' entrance into Buck's Row?
Just reading Cristers book and have picked up on his highly informative point that the Ripper was trying to image the women like the models in that era, with the organs on display. My gosh if this is correct, it makes perfect sense that the Ripper and the Torso murderer may well be the exact same person. So what if he's employing a different mode of operation from a superficial perspective. If Crister is right about that link with the models in museums, that does it for me: the Torso murderer is evidently employing THE SAME mode of operation, because he's still trying to display female bodies as of they are models.
in other documented evidence
knowledge of anatomy is said to have been required
did letchmere have such knowledge
and you also mentioned in a video that you believed letchmere wrote the dear boss letters
does it match letchmeres handwriting ?
I worked in whitechapel about 7 years but now right next to russell square and go along copenhagen street on my in, hope it doesn’t make me a suspect lol
but seriously these questions have been raised about the handwriting and anatomy knowledge
you sort of covered the anatomy question by the displays letchmere visited, just wondering if you ever checked the handwriting i guess
would be pretty damning evidence if it did
Could you put a photo of his signature and a ripper letter next to each other to compare
I'm just wondering: Do you really consider the " dear boss" letter to be genuin?
Meaning it's actually written by Jack the ripper?
Yes!
@@thehouseoflechmere9407I'd be really interested in your theory as to why. Why would Lechmere have sent it, just mischief and self aggrandisement?
@@garylancaster8612 both probably
Well one thing to come out of the series, if he is the one, a lot of pain and suffering could have been avoided, if the Police had of dug a bit deeper, he was the first on the scene, with Bucks Row Murder.
Should have been thoroughly checked out, whoever was on the list of names, who were present at the inquest. Every person who Raised their right hand, should have had the addresses checked, names, birth details, titles of property, to match the details given on the day of the inquest, when his use of the name Cross, could have been raised with him.
Why did you lie under oath, about the name you used, and what else have you lied about, could have been put to him, or better still, say nothing let him think he got away with it, and keep a watch on his movements, with the Police waiting to pounce, at the right time, unfortunately that never happened.
And the use of Dogs to get on the scent, they had dogs on Estates for Poachers, why didn't they have a dog anywhere available, to get on the trail.
Good points
What would the police have found if they searched his home? If he was clever, as a family man he would have probably kept his murder weapon concealed at another location. It would be unlikely (given he was married) that he would have had trophies of his victims strung up around his house. He would have looked like an ordinary guy. The Cross thing could have been explained easily as he had already used the name at a previous inquest where he was innocent of any crime; the inference being if he used the name when he was innocent, why should it be assumed that he is guilty for using it on this occasion? If the police had suspicions they may have placed a watch on Letchmere to get a closer look at his activities. Unfortunately they didn't. But since he wasn't killing every day, for the most part he would have seemed very unremarkable.
@@huckleberry10ful Some rings were taken from one of the Murders, Annie Chapman , he could of had a some items at his Mothers place, it is not only your own address that is searched, what other contacts he might have had, also could be searched.
It could have opened a whole avenue of trails, the name Cross used like you mentioned, he was never challenged with his use of the name, at any time he used it, that's why it was never an issue for him, and probably why he used it again at the inquest into the Bucks Row Murder, because nothing came of it on the other occasion.
When catching a suspect, Patience is the number one rule of the game, no matter, how unremarkable a suspect might appear, the most miniscule of detail, or lack of anything tangible, could change very quickly, once one stone is turned, then another is turned after that, and so on.
Watch Martin Fido’s series
Did lechmere work at an abbatoir when he was younger,
He started working for Pickfords when a teenager, so it is unlikely that he worked at an abbatoir before that.
If if was lechmere is there any theories on why he stopped killing?
Watch latest film for that topic
@@thehouseoflechmere9407 definitely 👍
Has there ever been an official "Cold case" review by the met police?
No
@@thehouseoflechmere9407 can't help thinking that in this day and age with rhe technological advances and the serious investigations since 1888 whether it might be warranted?
@@wattyler2994
I guess it's a question of resources
Did Mary Jane Kelly live in the most south dark dot, near L's mother and where L.s children went to school. Is that the connection of Mary to Charles. So perhaps they knew each other from then ???
In essence yes
@@thehouseoflechmere9407 Spooky. I thought there was no connection to Victim 5, but now it seems Charles possible knew Mary. I did read a comment, that Mary knew who JR's identity was.
Banged to rights.
Best. Suspect. Ever.
King British,
No other suspect was SEEN BY SOMEONE ELSE lingering alone and acting suspiciously right next to the body of one of the victims at or near the time of death and with nobody else in sight or sound.
King British,
Robert Paul said he was suspicious of the guy up ahead (Lechmere) and a bit concerned about him.
Lechmere was hanging around acting suspiciously right next to the body of one of the victims. This is fact.
KingBritish
""stood right over the body at all."
You've made that up. I never said he was stood over the body. I said he was right next to it, which he was. The road was right next to the body. Try and pay attention.
No other suspect did - as I said in the video.
How tall was he?
No one knows
I wonder how lechmere got that mars bar on his boat race.
What's so wild about jtr is he thought what's the worse things I could do with my knives...an he did them an got away with it.
Jack the Ripper certainly is not the first serial killer. Countess Elizabeth Bathory and many before this case. Nonetheless great video and research 👍
Previous videos were quite interesting, making some really good points but this one is far-fetched.
It would be more convincing if we had info of his actual childhood and traumatic experiences if there were any. Obviously this is impossible to know, it's all speculation.
We know nothing of this man, his personality, his ability to form relationships, the family he created, his temper. Nothing. No evidence, not possible to find out any crucial information about him
For me, it is the precise fact that we DO have crucial information and evidence at our hands, that has made Charles Lechmere the strongest suspect there has ever been.
@@christerholmgren335 do we?
What was he like as a person? How did his co-workers find him? Was he a caring husband? Did he play with his children? Did he have close friends? Was he loyal and supportive person? Did he keep to himself mostly? Was he happy? A simple man wanting simple things in life? I don't think we can ever find out many things about a person who died 100 years ago. Birth and death certificates, contracts he may have signed, yes. But we infer and speculate based on too little.
We can't turn back time and do actual investigation on this man or any man of that time.
I too am fascinated by history and all the facts people were able to dig but i see the numerous limitations...
@@annafrufru2962 I was not referring to us having evidence of personal traits. Just as you say, we do not have any such evidence. The evidence I pointed to was the evidence relating to his ”finding” the body of Polly Nichols in Bucks Row. Many say that we do. Ot have any evidence at all against the carman, but that is emphatically untrue. When it comes to evidence about his personal traits, the one thing that coujld provide it today would be if any written sources, like letters and such, was discovered, in which he was described. And to be honest, even if that was to happen, it would likely not provide any conclusive evidence anyway; many people who knew serial killers would have described them as good guys, for the simple reason that they many times masquerade to that effect. It all boils down to psychology, in a sense, and psychology is a very thin and slippery ice to stand on.
@@christerholmgren335I acknowledge you have a case against him but I've been thinking he might have given the name Cross because he would have to take the day off from work in order to go and testify. Since that was the name he used at work, he would have to.
Maybe the policeman did not rush to the crime scene and this is why he said that he had been informed that a colleague of his was already there, just to excuse himself for not taking the matter seriously. I mean, there are tons of other people who lived in the "hot spot" where the crimes were committed... And so on. We can find reasons to suspect Lechmere and reasons to acquit him. What if he was just an honest working man who just happened to be there minutes after the murderer had left? And now his name is blackened and tied to this monster for centuries to come? I wouldn't want that for myself even after death. And this is why i question so much. It's all about circumstances.
I would really really like to see this case solved and find out who this murderer was. However, i do believe it is impossible. Most police paperwork is missing. No hard evidence. To me, it probably was a man who was never suspected or mentioned. A man who we haven't even heard of. And this is disappointing.
Anyhow, this line of investigation is interesting. For me mostly historically. Lots of fascinating information about the era and its people. I learnt so much about Victorian England, the unfortunate people of Whitechapel, the story of this man, Lechmere.
It completely goes without saying that there is a huge amount we don't know and can never know.
We can only go on what we do know and that includes background information concerning events around where he lived.
I've been enjoying your videos immensely. I'd like to add on to this. the graffiti, after the double event, most likely referring to the controversy surrounding Lipski. He was fond beneath his victim's bed with acid in his mouth. He tried to blame his two employees. The jury took eight minute, yet there was a huge controversy surrounding whether or not he ought to be executed based solely on the evidence at trial and even queen Victoria was involved. This became a topic of much coverage in the Pall Mall Gazette at the time. The writing. like "lipski" at the site of the torso, could easily be a reference to the on going controversy, and be a misquote of something he read or heard, that to him summed up the controversy. You have an excellent point about the setting and influences, and I wish more time was spent looking at things this way. Lechmere and Hutchinson are my two biggest suspects, for the same reason (which you made clear): delayed inquest appearances. I'd love to chat more about this, as I'm a writer and do much historical research, and I don't think all the murders are necessarily linked, but may be a couple copycats of one original strand
this is the only plausible suspect ever brought to light.
Indeed