Neil Postman gives a talk in LA for Apple folks. Be sure to check out the second half, where he "opens" up and answers questions from audience interesting ways.
This is great, thanks for posting. There seems to be only a few outsiders to current technologies. I think exploring the downside of "computer technology" is a necessity, these days.
It is not easy to be a critic of technology and yet heard by people. Neil Postman's success (though one can argue how many people actually care what he needs to say) is partly based on his delivery; being humorous, and showing that he is compassionate about humanity, etc. There are others who sounds just being critical; but Postman is different.
Some parts of the talk are really profound. When he says that technology changes fundamental things about us... A really amazing message... Thanks again!
Part of that was Postman's immense erudition. He had deep roots in the humanities and down to earth sense of humor, qualities often missing from critics coming from only a sociological orientation, for example.
Thanks for posting this. criminal it has such low views. got lost in the 'matrix' so to speak - of course as they don't want people to think about what they are actually doing with an iPad.
+pawnfish VPRI does not seem to have other Neil Postman talks but we have some others. By "more like this", what kind of topics or speakers are you thinking of?
As for Neil Postman, this is the only movie we have at Viewpoints. There are some other public lectures I see on RUclips and elsewhere. This one is unique as the talk was given a group through personal connection and has a lot of Q&A time that in my opinion looks more engaging.
We need to break this 100 minutes into 10 minute segments. Listen at one hour 30 minute.... a classroom where everyone learns by mistakes a classroom is a place where you can make mistakes. if you had such a classroom, you wouldn't need a computer.... NEIL POSTMAN
John Dewey advocated the "fearless classroom" and Seymour (mrentioned in minute 1 hour 35) says that "The computer makes the classroom more open " and allows students to take the initiative
pardon my punctuation and or grammar , but ive tutored native american college kids, who, cant read or write at the level once considered, (not too long ago) 6th grade and its pathetic. obscenely, there is no shame , either. read a ruler correctly, then work w fractions ? never. play an instrument? the asian kids seem to have a corner on the piano, and sometimes guitar too. i taught guitar. moving forward lets learn a wee bit of largely useless foreign language so maybe one day , i can order soup like a less than dignified, pandering fool and , wether or not i know how to respond to a question at myself, of course others will be deeply impressed and LOVE me like a walking postcard sent from america. or theyll roll their eyes and speak english to me because its faster and easier for them . business. computers or robots will eventually replace most tech jobs, godless techs are to be cast in the cold. they will be angry, bloated, and lacknig much needed skills to navigate past a single room existence or perhaps, doom itself . society itself is slowly being pigeon holed like a piece of irrelevant information
It is certainly more true with cellphones! Right after that part, he talks about the AT&T ads. I've been looking for the clip but have not found it yet.
@15:00 a double edged sword with what Martin Luther proclaimed.. it enabled him to break down some of the lies being propagated and reaching common people - but when one lie is dissolved another replaced. Very tenuous - Martin Luther obviously a devout Christian as well (using that term Christian but they may not have used that title ).. just as Guttenberg so why was Guttenberg not horrified with HIMSELF??? LOL
@@seanwebb605 the content the talk talks about is the corrupting nature of the form…… the camera work, in other words, can afford to be subpar. Yes, I know I am responding a couple of years later. Blame the technology that makes it possible, if you must complain. To me, there is no sense of time in this medium. It is all in the PRESENT.
One of the greatest speeches I've ever heard.
Excellent channel Yoshiki thanks for posting your material and other important archival material .
such a great talk. thank you for uploading
This is great, thanks for posting. There seems to be only a few outsiders to current technologies. I think exploring the downside of "computer technology" is a necessity, these days.
It is not easy to be a critic of technology and yet heard by people. Neil Postman's success (though one can argue how many people actually care what he needs to say) is partly based on his delivery; being humorous, and showing that he is compassionate about humanity, etc. There are others who sounds just being critical; but Postman is different.
Some parts of the talk are really profound. When he says that technology changes fundamental things about us... A really amazing message... Thanks again!
Part of that was Postman's immense erudition. He had deep roots in the humanities and down to earth sense of humor, qualities often missing from critics coming from only a sociological orientation, for example.
Postman’s always worthwhile.
The beginning of his talk is really brilliant
Excellent speech
Thank you for sharing Neil Postman at APPLE! wow!
내용이 너무 좋아요! 감사합니다!!
40:00 Thoreau: Technology is just an improved means for unimproved ends
Fantastic!
Thanks for posting this. criminal it has such low views. got lost in the 'matrix' so to speak - of course as they don't want people to think about what they are actually doing with an iPad.
Talk about a visionary.
1:00:35 "donald needed more information". That guy deserves joke of the year award. Nailed it.
Donald is I think Don Norman, and who said it is Alan Kay., who is the host of the talk.
This talk is great! Do you have more like this?
+pawnfish VPRI does not seem to have other Neil Postman talks but we have some others. By "more like this", what kind of topics or speakers are you thinking of?
As for Neil Postman, this is the only movie we have at Viewpoints. There are some other public lectures I see on RUclips and elsewhere. This one is unique as the talk was given a group through personal connection and has a lot of Q&A time that in my opinion looks more engaging.
We need to break this 100 minutes into 10 minute segments. Listen at one hour 30 minute....
a classroom where everyone learns by mistakes
a classroom is a place where you can make mistakes.
if you had such a classroom, you wouldn't need a computer....
NEIL POSTMAN
exactly!!!!
20:20
TRUTH!
John Dewey advocated the "fearless classroom" and Seymour (mrentioned in minute 1 hour 35) says that "The computer makes the classroom more open " and allows students to take the initiative
pardon my punctuation and or grammar , but
ive tutored native american college kids, who, cant read or write at the level once considered, (not too long ago) 6th grade and its pathetic. obscenely, there is no shame , either.
read a ruler correctly, then work w fractions ? never.
play an instrument? the asian kids seem to have a corner on the piano, and sometimes guitar too. i taught guitar.
moving forward lets learn a wee bit of largely useless foreign language so maybe one day , i can order soup like a less than dignified, pandering fool and , wether or not i know how to respond to a question at myself, of course others will be deeply impressed and LOVE me like a walking postcard sent from america. or theyll roll their eyes and speak english to me because its faster and easier for them . business.
computers or robots will eventually replace most tech jobs, godless techs are to be cast in the cold. they will be angry, bloated, and lacknig much needed skills to navigate past a single room existence or perhaps, doom itself .
society itself is slowly being pigeon holed like a piece of irrelevant information
July 28 1993 my bday
3:20
19:35
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...what technologies un-do to a culture...what a technology un-does is a subject that computer experts apparently know very little about....
The best
we now know the level of misinformation it can deliver
I feel so unexamined ...
When did this talk take place?
When Google still had Americans working for "it "
As the title says, it was on 1993/7/28
@@yoshikiohshima Well I feel silly now.
1:10:15 What would he say today about cellphones? Lol.
It is certainly more true with cellphones! Right after that part, he talks about the AT&T ads. I've been looking for the clip but have not found it yet.
36:20
@34:00
Nice. Replace "Computer" with "AI" and his thought is very much relevant today.
I actually bought two of his books, the end of education and surrender the culture to technology, can’t wait to read them.
@15:00 a double edged sword with what Martin Luther proclaimed.. it enabled him to break down some of the lies being propagated and reaching common people - but when one lie is dissolved another replaced. Very tenuous - Martin Luther obviously a devout Christian as well (using that term Christian but they may not have used that title ).. just as Guttenberg so why was Guttenberg not horrified with HIMSELF??? LOL
_with Don Norman in the audience!
Quite a few famous people were in the audience, I gather.
@@yoshikiohshima After this talk you do not have to apply Postman's ideas to the internet age - you can use them directly. Thanks for sharing!
Now do now
Horrible camera work.
So what? Did you get anything from the ideas? ...or are you 27 years too late?
@@omarpancoast2266You act like I insulted your mother.
@@omarpancoast2266 Of course you realize my comment was a year old by the time you responded to it?
I 'watched' the entire thing with the screen brightness turned all the way off.
@@seanwebb605 the content the talk talks about is the corrupting nature of the form…… the camera work, in other words, can afford to be subpar. Yes, I know I am responding a couple of years later. Blame the technology that makes it possible, if you must complain. To me, there is no sense of time in this medium. It is all in the PRESENT.
Terrible audio recording.
Audio is ok
nextoesc No. the audio is horrible.
Sean Webb once you get past the non-mic’ed introduction, you’ll see the audio is fine.
@@jnnx Not as bad isn't exactly fine.
It was more the odd piano-infused edits that was bad