I just saw this video and went straight to the garage, I had a couple dozen .243 that I had in the tumbler. I did exactly what you said, trimmed to 1.920 and without powder charge or primer seated a 120gn Nosler ballistic tip and chambered it in my Savage 11 predator in 6.5 creedmoor. It went into full battery but I noticed a bit of drag or resistance, very little to be clear. I didn't notice any marks on the case and the neck and shoulder looked fine. I will follow up after fine tuning and putting some of these on paper. I have a few hundred rounds of purchased Hornady brass already loaded but this is such a clever and economical method I think you have single handedly solved the 6.5 Creedmoor brass shortage. Well done.
G'day mate. If you think you're having dramas finding brass, DON'T move to Australia ! I'm definitely going to be trying this mate! I've just received my RPR in Creedmore. Ordered it 5 months ago and brass. Still no brass! I'm going to try your idea and if it works and this isn't a gee up, it has honestly got to be one of the greatest & most helpful RUclips vids that I have watched!!
Thanks for the info. I just completed converting 500 Winchester brass and everything went smoothly. I annealed them first, trimmed, and resized. No crushed case, just do it slowly, some cases will get a little difficult to size. I pulled the die out, clean the inside, and try it again, perfect. Using Forster Co-Ax press made it easy to change out die.
After many many times trying this I have pretty much figured out any 243 case will work , disregard the part where I am selling Remington brass, this video was made pretty much within my first few batches . I have since reloaded those same cases 10-12 times with no issues only neck sizing . Good luck guys !
Thanks for the video. I was able to convert some .243 Winchester watching your video. Was tough to get the brass through the first run but it eventually went in, came out perfect.
Excellent report! Funny, I had given up on Remington brass years ago with a Ruger Target 25-06 that wouldn't shoot minute of softball with reloads. One day I took 5 federal .270 cases, ran thru the sizing die. Touched them up with a Lee trimmer and shot .473 @ 100. Note, old M1 shooters prefer Winch. For its stiffer cases.
I've converted 100 once-fired .243 Win to 6.5CM using this method. I found I had to sand down the shell holder for my Lee press to get the right rim to shoulder dimension. Also, I had a real problem with loose primer pockets using Winchester large rifle primers.
Thanks for the great Video. Like you I am finding 6.5 brass very hard to come by I guess everyone is jumping on the Creedmoor Bandwagon most of the people are using the Logic that if Lapua is the best brass why not use Lapua brass to make 6.5 Creedmoor Brass 243 is a lot cheaper to buy and easier to use I will defiantly give this a try
Hey! He mentioned me! 😁👍🏼 I did the conversion for educational purposes only, and at the time of Drought Years 2012-2015 you can never find any brass for 6.5CM. I could have done the 243, 260 and 22-250 and that’s the easy way out. I have thousands of 308 Win some are BH, Lapua and mixed so that was a fun challenge for me.
MY HUBBY IS ALL EXCITED CALLING BUDDIES IT WORKS. I WAS WAKING UP WHEN HE LISTEN TO THIS HALF ASLEEP "CREAM OF WHEAT" NOW THAT I AM AWAKE IT STILL C.O.W. WHAT IS CREAM OF WHEAT?
Cream of Wheat is a ground wheat breakfast cereal, often used as a filler for fire forming brass to a new caliber. Check your local grocery in the breakfast foods section.
I was hoping to hear back from you by now. You said that if we had any question, let you know. In the meantime, I received my shipment of once fired Remington brass and repeated the procedure of trimming back three of the cases and then putting them into the 6.5mm FL resizing die. I lubricated the entire outside of the case and also the inside of the neck. This time, I was able to get it past the expansion ball, a little progress on that score. However. the resizing of the cases caused about three indentations just below the shoulder. I took just one of the case and I was able to chamber it into my rifle, so I went ahead and reloaded it with a 6.5mm bullet. I figure the indentations will fire form out of the case. I would feel so much better if I didn't get those indentations. If I can get rid of them during the resizing process, I will feel that the entire procedure is a success. Any advice? Thanks.
I recently found out that I can resize 7mm-08 brass too 243 Win. I bought some because 243 is hard to find. I did everything I was supposed to do and after the resizing I tried to seat my first bullet. Bad Idea. The round collapsed at the neck. I than measured the inside diameter of my resized rounds and the brass was thicker than regular 243 brass so I resized the neck with my Lee neck resizing die and the problem is solved. Always check the thickness of the brass in the neck. I won't make that mistake again. Great video. Also, the brass was new Hornady.
If you're looking for precision ammo then skipping trimming your cases when you load is going to change your pressures and change your POI. Just an FYI.
Sweet. Ill be doing this as 6.5 creedmoor brass is crazy expensive from Hornady, Nosler and Norma. Thats all I can find. The Hornady is the cheapest of the bunch but $40 for 50 cases is still way too much for me. Ill be giving this a try as I can find 243 everywhere. Also powder for the 6.5 creedmoor when you can't get H4350: RL17, the new RL16, Ramshot Hunter (phenomenal 6.5 creed powder).
I have 6.5x55 and resize 6mm brass to use in it. Works great just to have extra ammo. Then I have a classic Lee loader I use after that to just neck side and last longer and don't have to use my big press
Those classic Lee Loaders are great. I wish they still sold them. I guess I could probably find them online but I have one in 270, 223 and 308. That little $25 loading kit puts out some of my best loads.
First off, thanks for taking the time for making your video I think it is the best one on youtube for brass sizing to date. One quick question, when sizing the 243 are you using a full length sizing die or a neck sizing die? I have recently purchased a Ruger Enhanced Precision Rifle and am an avid reloader too. I just want to make sure I get the right set of dies for this new to me caliber. I have heard the same thing about the 4350 powder and will definitely pick up some of that 4451 you are using. Thanks again
How do you like the Ruger? Looks bad ass , like an AR but its a bolt action. Was looking at them , not sure yet. Want to read more reviews. Comparing them to the Bergara B-14 HMR in 6.5 CM .
John, you mentioned you used Varget.. I have lots of varget, and im using 140gr Nosler Cus Comp as well. What grain did you find your accuracy node with the varget? I also loaded IMR4064 at 35gr, got sub MOA results. Thanks.
John, nice vid, think I'll give it a go just for shits and giggles as have 100s of 6.5 cases, but I like the idea of being able to form them out of 243s... I happen to have both the 6.5 & .243 RPR....much prefer to 6.5 though.
How many grains of 4451 are you using in your loads? Thx (UPDATE, never mind I search the comments and found that you are using 39 for 140, I was planning on starting with 39 for 143, so I guess is a good start. Thanks and post more videos)
Great video. How do you trim that much off at once? I have a Sinclair trimmer. Seems like a lot of trimming to take off at once...or do you have a better way?
Nice video buddy---I will try myself. What load and MV did you get with your 4451 140 grn? Also how much powder and what MV you get with Varget 140s. Im loading H 4350 now at 43.5 grns and pushing 140s at 2750, and getting sub MOA, But having trouble finding it. Had pretty good results with IMR 4350 as well--same amount of powder but 50ft slower
What about the donut? Neck turning is always a smart thing to do after sizing up or down. You say Nosler brass is soft so you annealed it? Annealing makes it softer? Going from LC 7.62 to 6.5CM is the best way and best results.
I tried doing it with a winchester once fired .243 brass and was not successful at all. I am trying to figure out what I am doing wrong and retracing my steps and still was not successful. Tried 20-25 brass and was only able to get 4-5 converted and even that it's not perfect as one side has that mushroom bump. Though all five fits in my rifle and was able to close the bolt. I am using a winchester once fired deprimed and resize brass, RCBS rockchucker supreme, Hornady FL die, imperial wax. Right now I am convinced that the die I have is a little on the rough area where it touches the shoulder and it's giving me problems. Any help is appreciated.
the guy who shaved the die said it would have been easier to shave the shell holder and gave a reason why he did it. it wasn't a necessary step. he was having some kind of problem and that was his solution to what amounted to his having a brain fart.
great video....i wonder if thesame idea will work for 260 rem...since its in thesame family as 308, 243, 7mm-08 and brass is hard to come by in my geo area.
As most of you already know Lapua has confirmed they are coming out with their own version of 6.5 Creedmoor Brass. Likely to be introduced at SHOT early NEXT YEAR, however, we MAY see some earlier. What really does NOT excite me is they are talking about changing the case to use a Small Rifle Primer akin to the 6.5x47 Lapua. WHY exactly the US Contingent is pushing for this modification is an open question. They mentioned they wanted to use the same Small Rifle Primer as used on the 6.5x47 Lapua, 6mm BR, 6PPC, etc... The OBVIOUS difference here is that, with the lone exception of .308 Palma Brass, all of these cases were DESIGNED with a Small Rifle Primer in mind. The 6.5 Creedmoor wad very clearly designed with a Large Rifle Primer from the start. This will lead to bushing the firing pin hole and replacing the firing pin on SOME rifle and avoiding the brass on others. I personally am hoping that Lapua of Finland winds up going conservatively and sticks with the Large Rifle Primer ORIGINAL DESIGN as there is VERY LITTLE TO IMPROVE UPON... That said time will tell.
Would like to apologize to all of you for not responding , I didn't get any alerts and I had NO Idea anyone even watched it haha . Thanks y'all I will post a video on how I trim them very efficiently . Good luck y'all !
What have you been using to trim your brass. My Lee hand trimmer with the 223 rod has been my best way to do it. Just takes a lot of stopping and measuring
i got some 250 savage cases coming with 6.5 creedmore dies and a neck crimper i have a 22-250 rifle dies and trimer i reload them i also order gun this week and 2 box's of loaded ammo coming with firearm! the dealer working with me!
+gatorred157 i got stuff today i heated necks and water cool them on 250 savage and resized them checked suppler ( sold out) of 250 savage brass now but 243 win brass in stock and 6.5 bullets too, i also have a 243 win and a 6.5x55 well if people have 6mm rem or 244 rem i use 6.5 x 55 swede case lube it send it though 6mm full length size die put it in 6mm and bolt closed neck a little short but it should work!
I gave it another try after several hours. This time, I removed the expander ball and de-capping pin. The .243 case went fully into the 6.5 Creedmoor FL sizing die and the case came out collapsed at the shoulder. I tried this with 3 cases. Just for giggles, I replaced the expander ball to see if it would expand the neck. The expander ball would not enter the case neck. What is it that I don't understand? How do you get a 6.5mm expander ball to pass through a 6mm neck? The collapsing of the case may be cured with Remington brass, as you wrote, but I the expander ball is like putting a square peg into a round hole, at least to my mind.
Robert Christino any lube on outside of case needs to be very very minimal. Also I'm using a hornady die , may be slight differences with our expander ball .
Just wanted to say that because of your video , I ordered my first 6.5 CM. Went with Savage BA10 stealth. I've only loaded 223 and hoping your method will make it affordable with 243 brass. Still have the same results? Still accurate results? Thanks CC
Yes , that's great to hear , thank you I'm glad you liked it . I'm having awesome results , I'm past 10 reloads on some cases . I'm finding Federal brass to be the best now . Good luck man!
I don't know if this will help anyone. I did the trimming at the length he suggested. He is correct about the federal 243 cases. However I couldn't believe that was the only brass. My buddies at the range collect all the 243 for me. So being the mad scientist that I am went to work on figuring out how to use other cases. After cleaning trimming cases to his measurement. Here's the secrete I use a lee die for first setting it is sloppy compared to the hornady die. It will go into the rifle but you will be pushing on bolt hard. Next step use hornady die to finish setting shoulder. It does not crush cases. After this I anneal cases then fire form them to my barrel. After shooting 4-5 times I anneal again keeps the cases from cracking. I use resizing wax not lube. Hope this helps.
Lenny Bowes sorry I certainly did not intended to make it sound like they were the only cases you could use . Just what I was having the best luck with . Thanks for commenting . Good luck!
hi. need some assistance. ive trimmed according to specification. ive put cases theu body die and it chambers n bolt closes perfectly. tje monute i seat a bullet the bolt wont budge to close. any help
+Mahmood Bulbulia only thing I can think is may be a little long and not letting it stretch enough , make sure your trimming it enough on the first run through . I have not tried lapua brass on this technique .
what is the point as hornday brass for the 243 and the creedmore is within a dollar of each other. it is not based on the .308 but the 30T/C. Not the same case. this is a complete joke.
This did not work for me, no matter what I tried. I made the initial cut with a Dremel, then trimmed it down with a proper trimmer. If it worked, I would buy something better, faster, and more efficient, like a chop saw for metal. I trimmed it to 1.920. I lubed it with Imperial lube paste and even swabbed inside the neck with a Q-Tip. I am using a single stage Hornady press. This gives me plenty of torque. I couldn't get past the shoulder. I used as much force as I dared. I didn't want to damage my Redding die. I used Winchester cases but ordered once fired Remington cases online in case this did work. I have a .243 Winchester rifle anyway, so, if it didn't work, I could still use the brass. At first, I thought the 6mm neck wouldn't get past the 6.5mm expanding ball but actually, I can't get past the neck. Comments by others are saying they have been successful. One person said he was even using Winchester brass, like me. That's the only .243 cases I had on hand when I tried it. I even annealed the shoulder and neck after several failures, hoping to make the brass a little softer. I noticed that when you put it through you press, you didn't use a lot of torque on your handle. Mine wouldn't move at all. What am I doing wrong?
I just saw this video and went straight to the garage, I had a couple dozen .243 that I had in the tumbler. I did exactly what you said, trimmed to 1.920 and without powder charge or primer seated a 120gn Nosler ballistic tip and chambered it in my Savage 11 predator in 6.5 creedmoor. It went into full battery but I noticed a bit of drag or resistance, very little to be clear. I didn't notice any marks on the case and the neck and shoulder looked fine. I will follow up after fine tuning and putting some of these on paper. I have a few hundred rounds of purchased Hornady brass already loaded but this is such a clever and economical method I think you have single handedly solved the 6.5 Creedmoor brass shortage. Well done.
Great , let me know how it works out , should fire form perfect and be smooth next sizing . I feel no resistance at all.
G'day mate. If you think you're having dramas finding brass, DON'T move to Australia ! I'm definitely going to be trying this mate! I've just received my RPR in Creedmore. Ordered it 5 months ago and brass. Still no brass!
I'm going to try your idea and if it works and this isn't a gee up, it has honestly got to be one of the greatest & most helpful RUclips vids that I have watched!!
Thank you ! Let me know how it works for you . I'm using a hornady full length die in 6.5 creedmoor
Thanks for the info. I just completed converting 500 Winchester brass and everything went smoothly. I annealed them first, trimmed, and resized. No crushed case, just do it slowly, some cases will get a little difficult to size. I pulled the die out, clean the inside, and try it again, perfect. Using Forster Co-Ax press made it easy to change out die.
After many many times trying this I have pretty much figured out any 243 case will work , disregard the part where I am selling Remington brass, this video was made pretty much within my first few batches . I have since reloaded those same cases 10-12 times with no issues only neck sizing . Good luck guys !
I didn't know Seth Mcfarland reloaded ammo. Cool.
Thanks for the video. I was able to convert some .243 Winchester watching your video. Was tough to get the brass through the first run but it eventually went in, came out perfect.
Excellent report! Funny, I had given up on Remington brass years ago with a Ruger Target 25-06 that wouldn't shoot minute of softball with reloads. One day I took 5 federal .270 cases, ran thru the sizing die. Touched them up with a Lee trimmer and shot .473 @ 100. Note, old M1 shooters prefer Winch. For its stiffer cases.
I've converted 100 once-fired .243 Win to 6.5CM using this method. I found I had to sand down the shell holder for my Lee press to get the right rim to shoulder dimension. Also, I had a real problem with loose primer pockets using Winchester large rifle primers.
7mm08 brass is the best to change to 6.5 Creedmoor
Thanks for the great Video. Like you I am finding 6.5 brass very hard to come by I guess everyone is jumping on the Creedmoor Bandwagon
most of the people are using the Logic that if Lapua is the best brass why not use Lapua brass to make 6.5 Creedmoor Brass 243 is a lot cheaper to buy
and easier to use I will defiantly give this a try
"Non of the above"? Yes, exactly; non of the above. Excellent video!
Thanks John, your info on sizing a 243 case to a creedmoor , I will give it go.
Hey! He mentioned me! 😁👍🏼
I did the conversion for educational purposes only, and at the time of Drought Years 2012-2015 you can never find any brass for 6.5CM. I could have done the 243, 260 and 22-250 and that’s the easy way out. I have thousands of 308 Win some are BH, Lapua and mixed so that was a fun challenge for me.
MY HUBBY IS ALL EXCITED CALLING BUDDIES IT WORKS. I WAS WAKING UP WHEN HE LISTEN TO THIS HALF ASLEEP "CREAM OF WHEAT" NOW THAT I AM AWAKE IT STILL C.O.W. WHAT IS CREAM OF WHEAT?
Cream of Wheat is a ground wheat breakfast cereal, often used as a filler for fire forming brass to a new caliber. Check your local grocery in the breakfast foods section.
Clear and concise.... thanks! Don't understand why you've received some "thumbs down"
Do you have to annealing your cases and love the video by the way brother great job? Please let me knwo if you have to Anneal the case
I was hoping to hear back from you by now. You said that if we had any question, let you know. In the meantime, I received my shipment of once fired Remington brass and repeated the procedure of trimming back three of the cases and then putting them into the 6.5mm FL resizing die. I lubricated the entire outside of the case and also the inside of the neck. This time, I was able to get it past the expansion ball, a little progress on that score. However. the resizing of the cases caused about three indentations just below the shoulder. I took just one of the case and I was able to chamber it into my rifle, so I went ahead and reloaded it with a 6.5mm bullet. I figure the indentations will fire form out of the case. I would feel so much better if I didn't get those indentations. If I can get rid of them during the resizing process, I will feel that the entire procedure is a success. Any advice? Thanks.
Robert Christino the dents are more than likely coming from excess lube , I only use a tiny tiny bit around the neck .
I recently found out that I can resize 7mm-08 brass too 243 Win. I bought some because 243 is hard to find. I did everything I was supposed to do and after the resizing I tried to seat my first bullet. Bad Idea. The round collapsed at the neck. I than measured the inside diameter of my resized rounds and the brass was thicker than regular 243 brass so I resized the neck with my Lee neck resizing die and the problem is solved. Always check the thickness of the brass in the neck. I won't make that mistake again. Great video. Also, the brass was new Hornady.
thanks for doing this vid. very helpful and very well done.
By the way your video helped me make my creedmoor brass I now have 150 brass to reload ...
Great , good luck man !
If you're looking for precision ammo then skipping trimming your cases when you load is going to change your pressures and change your POI. Just an FYI.
You are a legend .Works a treat
good video used ....Winchester... some necks dented but most turned out O.K. thank you again
Try WD40 dry lube for resizing your brass. I like it better than wax.
Sweet. Ill be doing this as 6.5 creedmoor brass is crazy expensive from Hornady, Nosler and Norma. Thats all I can find. The Hornady is the cheapest of the bunch but $40 for 50 cases is still way too much for me. Ill be giving this a try as I can find 243 everywhere.
Also powder for the 6.5 creedmoor when you can't get H4350: RL17, the new RL16, Ramshot Hunter (phenomenal 6.5 creed powder).
I have 6.5x55 and resize 6mm brass to use in it. Works great just to have extra ammo. Then I have a classic Lee loader I use after that to just neck side and last longer and don't have to use my big press
Those classic Lee Loaders are great. I wish they still sold them. I guess I could probably find them online but I have one in 270, 223 and 308. That little $25 loading kit puts out some of my best loads.
Great video. Thanks for trying a variety of products and giving us your insight.
I did like a hundred and fifty of them work fine mix headstamps
I'm having best results with Federal now that I have been doing it a while
how did they turn out with mixed head stamps
First off, thanks for taking the time for making your video I think it is the best one on youtube for brass sizing to date. One quick question, when sizing the 243 are you using a full length sizing die or a neck sizing die? I have recently purchased a Ruger Enhanced Precision Rifle and am an avid reloader too. I just want to make sure I get the right set of dies for this new to me caliber. I have heard the same thing about the 4350 powder and will definitely pick up some of that 4451 you are using. Thanks again
Full length die for this process , once fire formed to my rifle I'm using a neck die . Thank you for your comment !
Ivi. brass works press it and trim it thicker brass load reduction
Thanks for the video. What are you using for a full length sizing die. I used a Hornaday in a Forster press and the case will not chamber.
Wow, not a single word about the case lube you used!
How do you like the Ruger? Looks bad ass , like an AR but its a bolt action. Was looking at them , not sure yet. Want to read more reviews. Comparing them to the Bergara B-14 HMR in 6.5 CM .
John, you mentioned you used Varget.. I have lots of varget, and im using 140gr Nosler Cus Comp as well. What grain did you find your accuracy node with the varget? I also loaded IMR4064 at 35gr, got sub MOA results. Thanks.
John, nice vid, think I'll give it a go just for shits and giggles as have 100s of 6.5 cases, but I like the idea of being able to form them out of 243s... I happen to have both the 6.5 & .243 RPR....much prefer to 6.5 though.
How many grains of 4451 are you using in your loads? Thx (UPDATE, never mind I search the comments and found that you are using 39 for 140, I was planning on starting with 39 for 143, so I guess is a good start. Thanks and post more videos)
Tanks for the video
What die are you using to do the resizing? I have tons of .243 brass that can be converted. I just don't want to use the wrong tool.
Great video. How do you trim that much off at once? I have a Sinclair trimmer. Seems like a lot of trimming to take off at once...or do you have a better way?
Get a customized jig from this guy www.zepprecisionmachines.com/ . I had one ordered and works perfect cutting the 243 to 1.92"
I have a RCBS trimmer with a drill attachment and the reamer and chamfer bit attachment , one step process and it flies , just set it and go.
Nice video buddy---I will try myself. What load and MV did you get with your 4451 140 grn? Also how much powder and what MV you get with Varget 140s. Im loading H 4350 now at 43.5 grns and pushing 140s at 2750, and getting sub MOA, But having trouble finding it. Had pretty good results with IMR 4350 as well--same amount of powder but 50ft slower
I shoot a nice mild 39 gr with 140s
What about the donut? Neck turning is always a smart thing to do after sizing up or down. You say Nosler brass is soft so you annealed it? Annealing makes it softer? Going from LC 7.62 to 6.5CM is the best way and best results.
Ok we'll do it that way . Just posting my best results . After I annealed it did not crush . Once again just posting results .
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I tried doing it with a winchester once fired .243 brass and was not successful at all. I am trying to figure out what I am doing wrong and retracing my steps and still was not successful. Tried 20-25 brass and was only able to get 4-5 converted and even that it's not perfect as one side has that mushroom bump. Though all five fits in my rifle and was able to close the bolt. I am using a winchester once fired deprimed and resize brass, RCBS rockchucker supreme, Hornady FL die, imperial wax. Right now I am convinced that the die I have is a little on the rough area where it touches the shoulder and it's giving me problems. Any help is appreciated.
Thank good info
the guy who shaved the die said it would have been easier to shave the shell holder and gave a reason why he did it. it wasn't a necessary step. he was having some kind of problem and that was his solution to what amounted to his having a brain fart.
Superb Upload!
Next video, do that for 6.5 Swede. Ha I'd be interested.
great video....i wonder if thesame idea will work for 260 rem...since its in thesame family as 308, 243, 7mm-08 and brass is hard to come by in my geo area.
That makes two of us on the .260 Remington Lapua Case...
+Matthew Garrett awesome !
As most of you already know Lapua has confirmed they are coming out with their own version of 6.5 Creedmoor Brass. Likely to be introduced at SHOT early NEXT YEAR, however, we MAY see some earlier. What really does NOT excite me is they are talking about changing the case to use a Small Rifle Primer akin to the 6.5x47 Lapua. WHY exactly the US Contingent is pushing for this modification is an open question. They mentioned they wanted to use the same Small Rifle Primer as used on the 6.5x47 Lapua, 6mm BR, 6PPC, etc... The OBVIOUS difference here is that, with the lone exception of .308 Palma Brass, all of these cases were DESIGNED with a Small Rifle Primer in mind. The 6.5 Creedmoor wad very clearly designed with a Large Rifle Primer from the start. This will lead to bushing the firing pin hole and replacing the firing pin on SOME rifle and avoiding the brass on others. I personally am hoping that Lapua of Finland winds up going conservatively and sticks with the Large Rifle Primer ORIGINAL DESIGN as there is VERY LITTLE TO IMPROVE UPON... That said time will tell.
+Matthew Garrett let's hope it will be a LR primer .
Would like to apologize to all of you for not responding , I didn't get any alerts and I had NO Idea anyone even watched it haha . Thanks y'all I will post a video on how I trim them very efficiently . Good luck y'all !
John Underhill . did you use a case trimmer to cut down the brass ?
What have you been using to trim your brass. My Lee hand trimmer with the 223 rod has been my best way to do it. Just takes a lot of stopping and measuring
Oh yea , I have a RCBS pro trimmer with the drill attachment , just set it up and fly . Very quick when doing volume with a lot of brass coming off.
I thought that was the case, thanks
would sizing 308 to 243, then that 6.5 cm work? or still have to cut down the neck?
i got some 250 savage cases coming with 6.5 creedmore dies and a neck crimper i have a 22-250 rifle dies and trimer i reload them i also order gun this week and 2 box's of loaded ammo coming with firearm! the dealer working with me!
+gatorred157 i got stuff today i heated necks and water cool them on 250 savage and resized them checked suppler ( sold out) of 250 savage brass now but 243 win brass in stock and 6.5 bullets too, i also have a 243 win and a 6.5x55 well if people have 6mm rem or 244 rem i use 6.5 x 55 swede case lube it send it though 6mm full length size die put it in 6mm and bolt closed neck a little short but it should work!
I gave it another try after several hours. This time, I removed the expander ball and de-capping pin. The .243 case went fully into the 6.5 Creedmoor FL sizing die and the case came out collapsed at the shoulder. I tried this with 3 cases. Just for giggles, I replaced the expander ball to see if it would expand the neck. The expander ball would not enter the case neck. What is it that I don't understand? How do you get a 6.5mm expander ball to pass through a 6mm neck? The collapsing of the case may be cured with Remington brass, as you wrote, but I the expander ball is like putting a square peg into a round hole, at least to my mind.
Robert Christino , only put lube inside the neck . Just a tiny bit
Robert Christino any lube on outside of case needs to be very very minimal. Also I'm using a hornady die , may be slight differences with our expander ball .
Hi I'm new to this could you explain why it has to be once fired thanks
It does no have to be . It's cheaper
Just wanted to say that because of your video , I ordered my first 6.5 CM. Went with Savage BA10 stealth. I've only loaded 223 and hoping your method will make it affordable with 243 brass. Still have the same results? Still accurate results? Thanks CC
Yes , that's great to hear , thank you I'm glad you liked it . I'm having awesome results , I'm past 10 reloads on some cases . I'm finding Federal brass to be the best now . Good luck man!
ISN'T IT EASIER TO CONVERT IT TO .260 REMINGTON THEN A 6.5 CREEDMOOR??!!
I don't know if this will help anyone. I did the trimming at the length he suggested. He is correct about the federal 243 cases. However I couldn't believe that was the only brass. My buddies at the range collect all the 243 for me. So being the mad scientist that I am went to work on figuring out how to use other cases. After cleaning trimming cases to his measurement. Here's the secrete I use a lee die for first setting it is sloppy compared to the hornady die. It will go into the rifle but you will be pushing on bolt hard. Next step use hornady die to finish setting shoulder. It does not crush cases. After this I anneal cases then fire form them to my barrel. After shooting 4-5 times I anneal again keeps the cases from cracking. I use resizing wax not lube. Hope this helps.
Lenny Bowes sorry I certainly did not intended to make it sound like they were the only cases you could use . Just what I was having the best luck with . Thanks for commenting . Good luck!
Just wanted to ask on the powder what was your starting load for the IMR powder?
39
what about 260 remington brass?
What type of gun you shooting auto or bolt
Both , the RPR I showed in the video , and I have an AR-10 I built
hi. need some assistance. ive trimmed according to specification. ive put cases theu body die and it chambers n bolt closes perfectly. tje monute i seat a bullet the bolt wont budge to close. any help
Your building a donut in the neck somehow . What brass are you using ?
Using lapua brass
+Mahmood Bulbulia only thing I can think is may be a little long and not letting it stretch enough , make sure your trimming it enough on the first run through . I have not tried lapua brass on this technique .
I order Winchester made .243 win brass and tried this but my necks buckle. I think he must have annealed his brass to much making them to soft.
Matthew Jones this is true , use a brass that is not annealed , I believe Remington and federal
John Underhill I just use ppu 22-250 brass now. Works great.
All brass is annealed
I am trying not to sound stupid, but does the type of lube matter?
lacy Lundquist in my experience Imperial Sizing Wax is the best
what is the point as hornday brass for the 243 and the creedmore is within a dollar of each other. it is not based on the .308 but the 30T/C. Not the same case. this is a complete joke.
This did not work for me, no matter what I tried. I made the initial cut with a Dremel, then trimmed it down with a proper trimmer. If it worked, I would buy something better, faster, and more efficient, like a chop saw for metal. I trimmed it to 1.920. I lubed it with Imperial lube paste and even swabbed inside the neck with a Q-Tip. I am using a single stage Hornady press. This gives me plenty of torque. I couldn't get past the shoulder. I used as much force as I dared. I didn't want to damage my Redding die. I used Winchester cases but ordered once fired Remington cases online in case this did work. I have a .243 Winchester rifle anyway, so, if it didn't work, I could still use the brass. At first, I thought the 6mm neck wouldn't get past the 6.5mm expanding ball but actually, I can't get past the neck. Comments by others are saying they have been successful. One person said he was even using Winchester brass, like me. That's the only .243 cases I had on hand when I tried it. I even annealed the shoulder and neck after several failures, hoping to make the brass a little softer. I noticed that when you put it through you press, you didn't use a lot of torque on your handle. Mine wouldn't move at all. What am I doing wrong?
Robert Christino yea something isn't right , I honestly don't know why your having trouble .
what do you guys use to trim the case?
Mobile F I have a RCBS with a power drill attachment . You will get worn out trimming these by hand , lots of brass to come off .
What is I just cut it first. Like how ppl make 300 blackout case?
Never mind
why?
Dude. Could you talk any slower and spend more time not saying much?