How To Retire Early - Our Plan For Financial Independence

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  • Опубликовано: 27 янв 2014
  • Want to know why we do the things we do? Our goal is retire extremely early by saving 75% of our income. If you're interested in financial independence definitely check out Mr. Money Mustache (link below).
    You don't need a high income to retire early. But, you are going to need to give up a lot of "things" for financial freedom. Some people think living without luxury isn't living, we think living without time isn't living. We just want people to know they're making a choice.
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Комментарии • 364

  • @bernardogutierrez8392
    @bernardogutierrez8392 2 года назад +32

    There’s no excuse to not build wealth, there’s so much opportunities to earn money these days.

    • @henryjones6303
      @henryjones6303 2 года назад

      The best way to earn money is by crypto trading, it will amaze you to see how much these traders make daily with just little effort.

    • @derrickadams8416
      @derrickadams8416 2 года назад +2

      @@henryjones6303 I won’t call it little effort, the research and analysis that goes into it is really active.

    • @aureliocantos8466
      @aureliocantos8466 2 года назад +1

      The profits is fantastic but it don’t come easily, I currently earned over $150 trade profit daily, I’m still an amateur compared to what most professional make in minutes. Trading can be quite lucrative when done with the right skills.

    • @liamjohn2756
      @liamjohn2756 2 года назад +3

      @@aureliocantos8466 I totally agree with you bud, it’s one reason I opted for an expert Frost Hilda who’s been handling my trades for a while now, and the profits are mind blowing, if I had know how easy it is to double thousands of dollars in minutes trading crypto then I won’t have to go through so much in life.

    • @billnolan5375
      @billnolan5375 2 года назад

      I’ve always been a holder, I don’t actively trade daily, I can’t handle the risks.

  • @gersonadr2
    @gersonadr2 6 лет назад +23

    This video introduced me to FI and started my entire journey.. Today, I'm sitting 20 months away from retiring at age 35.

    • @MikeAndLaurenTV
      @MikeAndLaurenTV  6 лет назад +3

      That's amazing, congratulations!

    • @SkinnyAnimus
      @SkinnyAnimus 5 лет назад +1

      less than a year left!

    • @FilamentFriday
      @FilamentFriday 4 года назад +2

      How’s that journey going with the latest Covid environment?

    • @gersonadr2
      @gersonadr2 4 года назад +2

      @@FilamentFriday it postponed my journey by at least 1.5 years. This post is kinda old, I moved away from index ETFs and into fixed income / real estate

    • @edgehodl4832
      @edgehodl4832 4 года назад +3

      @@gersonadr2 im 4 years away from retiring at 2024 at age 40 with around 1 mil (considering 10% market return), will check back later to see if i really did lol

  • @travischang2825
    @travischang2825 5 лет назад +3

    "To have the freedom to do what you want", that's the key away for me here. Exploring possibilities and working on projects need this freedom. Thanks guys.

  • @simplybows1
    @simplybows1 9 лет назад +36

    Isn't it weird when you get people's reactions. They think you're crazy when you say you're going to retire at 30-35. I am with you guys 100%. I am 24 and want to build up an empire of something, by the time I'm 30. I am not waiting on my social security for when I'm 65-70..
    It's ridiculous to retire when you have only 15 yrs left.

    • @simplybows1
      @simplybows1 9 лет назад +2

      *****
      Oh awesome! Nice to see that My generation does think about stuff like this!. I've been looking into Passive Income (making your money work for you) versus Active income (9-5 job).
      The same mantra I have been finding with my research is always live well below your means. If you make 4k per month, live on 2k.. also live debt free. There's this really good video on Dave Ramsey's page about buying a car cash throughout your lifetime. It's REALLY good!..
      haha sorry for the long post, but this topic really interest me :p

    • @californiabobby3858
      @californiabobby3858 8 лет назад +1

      +Grace Faith SO few people live by this, but also there are SO few people who are debt free and worry free, keep it up, it WILL pay off. I tell my friends all the time, save, learn about passive income, learn how to invest, because in 25 years time, the world will have changed so much, the cost of living will continue to rise and wages wont keep up with them, of course my friends don't listen, at all, but, it makes me happy to know that me and my partner will be able to relax in our 30s and not worry about when the next paycheck will come in. Keep up the good work and dont ever lose sight of your goals !

    • @kylelougnot3765
      @kylelougnot3765 6 лет назад +1

      Whoever invented the retire old system was not thinking of the worker obviously.

  • @JAYX1NE
    @JAYX1NE 7 лет назад +1

    So glad I'm not the only person who thinks this way about saving.

  • @ev6304
    @ev6304 3 года назад +1

    Seriously first financial channel I ever watch got me into FIRE. Now I watch y’all’s old videos just to get motivates again.

  • @crobinso2000
    @crobinso2000 8 лет назад +10

    "Out of the Box" thinking... very interesting.

  • @HisandHerMoney
    @HisandHerMoney 9 лет назад +3

    Great advice! Loved everything about this video. Thanks for sharing guys.

  • @Pambegay
    @Pambegay 3 года назад +7

    Recently I got into the youtube financial niche, and I’ve taken a deep dive into investing, particularly dividend growth investment as it interests me. Tried several methods trying to figure out the best approach to building my portfolio. So far, I’m making progress with the help of my financial advisor. Back to the video, wonderful job there, always look forward to your next content.

    • @Jakebottom
      @Jakebottom 3 года назад

      It’s almost the same situation here. The difference is that I got off early enough to know that financial planning would help me go a long way. I’m in my 60’s and reaping off my hardwork.

    • @Pambegay
      @Pambegay 3 года назад +1

      Came across Alec Payden at an investment webinar. You can get all the information you need, just leave him a message if you have inquiries Alecpayden (a) g ma il. Com....you can look him up if you like.

    • @FullOption
      @FullOption 3 года назад

      I don’t make that much, but I sure do make enough. However, it will not be a bad idea to hear from a professional.

  • @cheatingfire5813
    @cheatingfire5813 5 лет назад

    Great to see another joined the movement and is succeeding!

  • @Torsan1977
    @Torsan1977 8 лет назад +1

    It suddenly makes sense! Thank you, and good luck!

  • @outproud
    @outproud 8 лет назад +1

    Thanks y'all for sharing your journey with us!

  • @martinstepetin2102
    @martinstepetin2102 6 лет назад

    Love the channel thank you guys

  • @ChunWong
    @ChunWong 8 лет назад +1

    Interesting video, looking forward to seeing more!

  • @californiabobby3858
    @californiabobby3858 8 лет назад +64

    The amount of excuses in the comment section are laughable. this all CAN be done, if you WANT it to be done, its a lot easier to complain and say that someone is wrong because you dont want to put any of this into practice. Not to mention that most people, drink, party, smoke, buy things they dont need, have cars they dont need instead of taking public transport, pay for cable, have an unlimited data plan on their phone, go clothes shopping when they dont need it, buy new shoes frequently and arent saving anything right now. If you REALLY want something, you'll make sure you acquire it, this is why there are so few people who are rich and/or debt free, and so many people who complain that it isnt possible, simply because they have no interest in putting in the work required.

    • @MikeAndLaurenTV
      @MikeAndLaurenTV  8 лет назад +4

      +TheMatban +1 great comment!

    • @mac1bc
      @mac1bc 8 лет назад +1

      this works well if you don't have kids or major medical expenses

    • @1stuart1
      @1stuart1 8 лет назад +2

      +mac1bc, I easily spend more money on beer than I do my kid; not because I drink a lot of beer, but because raising children is much less expensive than people will have you believe. With the single exception of people who pay for expensive child care, people who complain about the expense of parenting are just doing it wrong.

    • @mac1bc
      @mac1bc 8 лет назад

      +Stu A yes child care is one expense, then you have clothes and food items. I'm not saying it's expensive but it is another expense you need to plan for.

    • @TheDatingLab
      @TheDatingLab 8 лет назад +2

      Great comment. Excuses are the killers of achieving your goals.

  • @CashTalkWithMaryM
    @CashTalkWithMaryM 8 лет назад

    Oh my gosh so glad I found you guys, SUBSCRIBED!

  • @michaelbella4803
    @michaelbella4803 8 лет назад

    Beautifully said guys, we are on team with the time/money thing. Great!

  • @troyperez76
    @troyperez76 4 года назад

    I watched you guys all those years ago because of the travel that you did. Then stuck around because of the financials. You two were my first exposure to FI and at the time time did not really understand it all that much but everything you had to say resonated with me. Thanks again starting me on a path towards FI and ultimately Freedom.

  • @BorealSelfReliance
    @BorealSelfReliance 9 лет назад

    great video!

  • @TripSeibold
    @TripSeibold 7 лет назад +2

    I really enjoyed watching this video. Excellent presentation of why it all boils down to savings rate and personal choices!

  • @kungpow108
    @kungpow108 8 лет назад

    Very well put at why you're doing it.

  • @maragringoful
    @maragringoful 10 лет назад

    You guys seems to be having fun. Keep up the good work

  • @paulodeoliveira3368
    @paulodeoliveira3368 9 лет назад +1

    You guys are GREAT. Thanks for inspiring us!
    God bless!

  • @jaymeez
    @jaymeez 10 лет назад

    Well put together video....

  • @marion1476
    @marion1476 10 лет назад +1

    You inspire us. Good job!

  • @CSquadFilms
    @CSquadFilms 7 лет назад

    I love finance videos. They motivate me so much. I hope that everybody succeeds in their goals.

  • @natalieayala7800
    @natalieayala7800 8 лет назад

    this vid was so inspiring thank you ive also been reading mr money mustache lol its doable my husband and I starting planning this we are 24 and we are thinking we may b able to "retire" by 35 with a few rental houses and minimal spending look foward to following you guys!

  • @ravipatel8727
    @ravipatel8727 6 лет назад

    excellent video...amazing thinking...got it what actually I want to know.. thanks

  • @NuevoCanadiense
    @NuevoCanadiense 4 года назад +1

    Los Admiramos Mucho Chicos! Desde Hace 3 años los seguimos, y nuestro Goal va en buen Camino, y ahora que mire su video que ya se retiraron me dan mucho mas Animo! 👏👏

  • @Youd020
    @Youd020 9 лет назад

    you guys are awesome!!

  • @MrDewanchand
    @MrDewanchand 5 лет назад

    Well done.

  • @landdoom1
    @landdoom1 9 лет назад

    I really enjoyed the video. Your goals are different from my personal retirement goals. (I like my smart phone) but I like how you broke it down so that it could include a lot of different options towards different goals.

    • @MikeAndLaurenTV
      @MikeAndLaurenTV  9 лет назад

      landdoom1 Thanks! Glad it was helpful to someone.

  • @twstalder
    @twstalder 7 лет назад +1

    If you think you can do a thing or think you can't do a thing, you're right. - Henry Ford

  • @NewlywedandBroke
    @NewlywedandBroke 9 лет назад

    Awesome, we have so much in common!!!!

  • @directionwood
    @directionwood 8 лет назад

    the making an 18650 battery video brought me to your channel, the debit card and credit card videos were super thought provoking! the video about making the breakfast sandwich reminded me to cook at home, and this is the video that convinced me to subscribe you channel! I love this video and keep making more!

    • @MikeAndLaurenTV
      @MikeAndLaurenTV  8 лет назад

      +Wayne Wood Awesome! It's always interesting to hear how people find us.

  • @durganbuilt5703
    @durganbuilt5703 9 лет назад

    I just watched two of your videos, a saw horse comparison and this one, and loved them both. You have a new subscriber. Keep up the good work!

  • @dlg5485
    @dlg5485 7 лет назад +2

    Unfortunately, I learned these lessons way late and didn't even start saving until my late 30s. Now I'm 47 and almost debt free (within 3 yrs) and I'm currently saving 35% of my income which I'll increase to 60% after my mortgage is paid off. I will retire when I reach my goal of $750k, hopefully by age 55, and spend the rest of my days traveling. I really wish I'd been smarter with money when I was younger and not purchased new cars and such. Most of us think we need that crap and that we have all the time in the world to save when we're older, but I'm here to tell you, time is extremely limited and if you want to spend more of it doing things you enjoy, start saving now. It doesn't matter if you're 22 and fresh out of college or in your 50s, start saving as much of your income as you can afford to right now and increase it every time your pay increases.

  • @LogBaseTwo
    @LogBaseTwo 9 лет назад

    Just wanted to let you know that I ended up here from Mathias Wandels channel. Saw one of your comments and thought I would check you out.

    • @MikeAndLaurenTV
      @MikeAndLaurenTV  9 лет назад

      Joseph Henry Awesome! Thanks for checking it out.

  • @marinakurban2586
    @marinakurban2586 9 лет назад +3

    If only I could save all the money I send back to my family, I would have probably retired by now:). Anyways, I so agree with your philosophy, "Spend frugally on things I do not care about and extravagantly on things I do care about". In my case, I invest in to my family, quite extravagantly:) pretty much with all my earnings. Being frugal is not difficult when you love some one so deeply:). Investing in human lives equivalent investing in to eternity. Anyways, you do inspire me guys on being even more conscientious about my daily financial choices. Keep up the good work!

  • @blackgriffin6445
    @blackgriffin6445 5 лет назад

    Nice!

  • @johnconklin9039
    @johnconklin9039 8 лет назад

    Great advice... it is all in the choices you make. Wish info like this and investing by the common person would have more available 30 years ago.

  • @bena.7896
    @bena.7896 8 лет назад

    Hey Mike and Lauren, I like your videos editing. Which softwares are you guys using?

  • @Mistrblank
    @Mistrblank 9 лет назад

    Found your channel on a sawhorse comparison video... found this video and you're easily subbed now.

  • @lordsknight4687
    @lordsknight4687 9 лет назад

    So glad that you make Tithing and charitable giving a priority. It shows that you are not cheap or stingy, you are good stewards with what you have and content to live within your means so that you may live an abundant life and not be slaves to debt. I am cheering for you.

  • @corght
    @corght 8 лет назад

    I really like your way of thinking.

  • @MrSoup38
    @MrSoup38 6 лет назад +1

    I am not going to act like I know them to say this is a good plan for them or not. However, this isn't news or surprising. What it comes down to is what they think will achieve maximum happiness and there is a reason why so many people don't do this.
    You basically have to believe that the life you living as a minimalist is the best that the life has to offer for you. If you firmly believe this, then go for it. Seeing that they are under 30, I would still suggest them to see what is REALLY out there. If you only had a 'boring' desk job and you think that's what a workplace is, then you either don't believe that you can become someone more successful (even outside of money that you make), or you are lying to yourself thinking that you know what it feels like to work as a difference maker in the company/organization that you are part of.
    Unless you made so much money that you have the freedom to travel, learn, make and create as much as you want, there are so much limitation on what you experience as 'freedom' with a budget. I agree you shouldn't trade your time just for sake of working to cover your expenses but the POINT is to have a job where you aren't told what to do all the time. If you are talented, you get to work to travel, learn, make, and create. On top of this, you make more than enough money to cover unexpected cost (injury, accident, etc), not waste time on small details, be able to give back to community, take risks, and trade money to save time. I'd say reach that level of success where you can dictate what you do at your work and what you do outside of work first. If you've never experienced this, then you really are missing out on what life has to offer for you in terms of maximum happiness.

  • @tomj528
    @tomj528 8 лет назад +1

    The only problem with your plan is health care which makes it impossible to live on so little, especially as you get older. Remember, if you run out of money when you're older you may not be able to go back to work to earn more. Other than that, great job! A high rate of savings is cool and it's great that you guys have figured that out relatively young...welcome to the club! Don't forget to look into the awesome tax benefits of a low income/high savings rate like the form 8880 savers credit which can completely wipe out any income tax liability.

  • @gcuzwak
    @gcuzwak 7 лет назад +7

    This video has honestly changed my life. I wonder why this video isn't all that popular. Or why haven't I seen a video like this ever in my life.

  • @AnaxofRhodes
    @AnaxofRhodes 5 лет назад +1

    Smart phones have gotten to the point of near-necessity. I had a blackberry-style phone for years, only upgraded a few months ago. Phone was $200, plan for 1 person is $40/month, 1-time accessories were $30 I think. Smaller house/rent, cutting back on restaurants, and cheaper and fewer car purchases are the real money savers.

  • @WellBehavedWallet
    @WellBehavedWallet 9 лет назад +2

    Fantastic video! Timely, useful info delivered with candor and wit-- oh yeah. Just subscribed. (it was the *please* that did it. ;-)) You guys are great.

    • @MikeAndLaurenTV
      @MikeAndLaurenTV  9 лет назад

      Sustainable135 Thanks! Glad to have you along for the ride :)

  • @Mdowns888
    @Mdowns888 8 лет назад +2

    inspiring

  • @bza069
    @bza069 9 лет назад

    great !!!

  • @BorealSelfReliance
    @BorealSelfReliance 8 лет назад +6

    Great vid! I am 28 and wish I was more intentional about saving when I first started wkrking.

    • @MikeAndLaurenTV
      @MikeAndLaurenTV  8 лет назад

      +Nates Homestead Lifestyle Thanks!

    • @ipedros7
      @ipedros7 8 лет назад +1

      +Nates Homestead Lifestyle if that's something you are interested in, the time to start is always today. Doesn't matter how old. Even starting at 10-20% of your income will give you a helping hand later on.

  • @MoonLiteNite
    @MoonLiteNite 8 лет назад +23

    30th? damn i thought i was crazy for having my house paid off for by 30....

    • @heathermalakas4077
      @heathermalakas4077 7 лет назад

      They missed the boat and will return to work later in life

    • @Falcodrin
      @Falcodrin 7 лет назад

      Heather Malakas only if they want to. Some people do get bored. My grandfather can't stand being retired so he "works" full time housesitting for my uncle and caring for my cousins. If they get bored they have the freedom to do little gigs and stuff. They have the freedom to travel which most people will never have because they live of social security.

    • @nickandrejev6408
      @nickandrejev6408 6 лет назад

      This was great, I have been researching "your path to financial freedom" for a while now, and I think this has helped. Ever heard of - Ferapt Freedom Fanboy - (do a google search ) ? Ive heard some interesting things about it and my brother in law got great results with it.

  • @felixthecat5416
    @felixthecat5416 9 лет назад

    MnL great vid peppy n cheap two words I love-- But if poss can u talk about the banks to avoid that are set for bail-ins? Just sum comsen stuff about actually keeping the money u save?

  • @bobankr
    @bobankr 7 лет назад +1

    I like you guys even though I'm, like your grandpa. You be on the right track and You be good people, yeah!

  • @queenofyeay
    @queenofyeay 8 лет назад

    I wish I'd had this sort of vision to refer to back in the day... I felt like a veritable KING retiring at the age of 54! While I STILL feel like a king (because I'm retired, dontcha know) I don't feel quite as accomplished. I hope you manage to pull this off. I will say this, you do have the right idea when it comes to used things. I would also suggest that buying a car can also provide a way to save money, for instance, twice now I have bought really nice cars that I paid cash for, one I owned for 13 years and it was still a good car when I sold it. Both cars had two things in common they both have salvaged titles AND cost me roughly half of a non repaired car in a comparable condition. With a trusted mechanic to look over a lightly damaged car that has been repaired you can save big money, and if you are handy, and find a lightly damaged car to repair yourself; you can save far more! In my first 20 years of driving and owning a variety of cars I had car loans on three cars, and two motorcycles. In the LAST 20 years of driving I have had zero car loans and two salvaged cars in that time.

  • @green2882
    @green2882 10 лет назад +1

    this is my goal in life, and my motto is "Live, don't survive"

  • @jamespatton3720
    @jamespatton3720 15 дней назад

    This just popped up in my feed,l used to follow you two up till about 5 years ago. I was wandering what you have been doing since?

  • @rickforse8518
    @rickforse8518 5 лет назад +1

    The average premiums for health insurance for a family in 2018 was $1,168.00/month. So don't forget to through THAT in there. This one thing is keeping me from retiring RIGHT NOW. Basically, I am stuck working until I can get medicare...or I need a windfall of about $200K to cover me.

  • @ricebowl3
    @ricebowl3 10 лет назад +1

    hell yeah!

  • @jkopvo
    @jkopvo 10 лет назад

    Nice video. Good plan! As you're saving up your nest egg (maybe you talk about this in another video), how do you plan to invest the nest egg money to produce ongoing income?

  • @Poplicola08
    @Poplicola08 6 лет назад +1

    Have you started a college/education fund for Hudson? I'd be interested in your strategy or suggestions for these.

  • @1stay_humble178
    @1stay_humble178 4 года назад

    We are a 1% club my guy 9/10 people refuse to save any money at all idk how ppl blow through their paychecks blows my mind but I’m on the same mission but I got a mortgage to pay off still that I’m grinding for keep stacking and chasing them goals 💪

  • @sanrasuzumaki942
    @sanrasuzumaki942 7 лет назад

    That sounds very good and I never thought of it, thanks for the wakeup, now to look into investments and that kind of stuff.

  • @MrPlaneCrashers
    @MrPlaneCrashers 8 лет назад +29

    Well, I am 15. And people already say I am a nerd. You just made much worse. Oh well. At least I will be able to think about my future now!

    • @TheRoughRice
      @TheRoughRice 6 лет назад

      Plane crashers o

    • @KA-iq2ko
      @KA-iq2ko 5 лет назад

      Go through my saved and created playlists.

  • @mariusgheorgheradutiu181
    @mariusgheorgheradutiu181 5 лет назад

    You are a funny and beautiful couple! Good luck! Greetings from Romania!

  • @cefteldore
    @cefteldore 5 лет назад +1

    Lauren, you're an exquisite creature :)

  • @MusicloverX88
    @MusicloverX88 6 лет назад

    You guys remind me of Jim and Pam from The Office.

    • @MikeAndLaurenTV
      @MikeAndLaurenTV  6 лет назад

      That might be the nicest compliment we've ever received 😊

  • @feetstreatz2094
    @feetstreatz2094 8 лет назад

    assets! Passive income producing assets! Thats key!!

  • @mikefinley4572
    @mikefinley4572 8 лет назад

    Well done! I wish you both the very best and I applaud your efforts. Check out my third book, Graduation! It details this issue regarding the math AND the psychological aspect as well. Onward!

  • @theflafau
    @theflafau 7 лет назад

    Subscribed wonder how long this idea works for.... Are pan handlers technically retired?

  • @TheFinancialScout
    @TheFinancialScout 7 лет назад

    Good job. I have a similar goal but I don't know how to achieve it. Isn't there a penalty for withdrawing from your retirement before a certain age? Was the 20% penalty factored into the withdraw and what is your plan to remain cash flow positive?

    • @badass6656
      @badass6656 7 лет назад

      You may need to learn about investing and financial markets. In the video they did not mention how to manage the capital sum. if you are truly committed you will do the work required.

  • @CrazyBalt95
    @CrazyBalt95 8 лет назад +6

    4296 US Dollars a year is minimum salary in Lithuania. Imagine how mutch time would it take to save some money to retire early, not to mention that all the things seem really expensive here.

    • @jarimantas9744
      @jarimantas9744 8 лет назад

      +Krawiakin Lietuva! Jo neimanoma butu.. :(

  • @amingrullon3860
    @amingrullon3860 6 лет назад

    So it’s pretty close to your goal date. How is it going? Any update?

  • @calivalley9056
    @calivalley9056 8 лет назад

    Awesome info, where I'm at, 40 and just retired from military, took a major pay cut but didn't matter because we are debt and mortgage free. Everything has changed since we payed our mortgage off. Mistakes we made: 30 year loan and second, refinanced to a 15 year biweekly. Payed extra $600 month. I got fed up and payed all my savings on house except IRA and six month emergency fund. Since then our savings has grown what seems like exponentially. The bigger take way, we didn't need a 2500 square foot house! Family of four with son who is leaving for collage, (payed for by CA disabled VET program), leaves us with this huge house and three empty rooms full of "stuff/ junk/waste". Now pay cash for everything but the funny thing is we don't need anything. I have never felt more free in my life. Dreaming of selling everything and moving to Uruguay or Ecuador, passports in hand! Make the sacrifices and leave the rat race.

  • @lorenamartinez3457
    @lorenamartinez3457 7 лет назад

    How did you guys invest your money? I planning on a Roth IRA account... what are you thoughts? thanks for the video!🙋

  • @misha_bloom
    @misha_bloom 5 лет назад

    great video, thank you for sharing, you guys have great channel. I just wanted to add that people need to include taxes in their calculations. Example with $50k income. I live in Brooklyn NY, so total income tax will be $11,968(smartasset.com), so after taxes you have $38,032.00 in your pocket, if you chose to save $5K, then you have $33,032 left to spend, some of these spendings will be work related (lunch, clothes, commute etc.), so let's say you will need only $30k. Because if you will get you income from Index funds(dividends or capital gains) or some other passive sources, your taxes will be way lower than W2 taxes.So income tax could be zero or very low, so you would not need to replace $45K, because 26% of that amount goes to taxes anyways, you would need something like $30k-$35k to maintain the same life style. That way you can get to FI way faster, just based on your income tax.
    I also think it might be easier to make more money than save more, if you income is on a lower side. You can invest in the market and also in yourself (books, courses, seminars etc). It's nice if you can save $20 a month by using a dumb phone, but you can learn a new skill and get a raise or get a job that pays more, like $10K or $20K a year in extra income can make process easier and you can keep your smart phone :). I prefer to focus on how to make more money: side hustles, online business, investments and biggest expenses first -taxes, rent, eating out/lunch, transportation etc. Just calculate your annual expenses by a category and start with the highest.
    Mike and Lauren thank you for your work and positive energy, it's pretty cool to see how you guys growing and keep doing fun videos about personal finance.

  • @navyman4
    @navyman4 9 лет назад +3

    EXACTLY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
    I was about to call BS on this vid when they cited the $1.125 million requirement. But their point was to debunk it. BRAVO.
    I know for a fact I don't need that much. MY BILLS happen to be all paid off. My utilities amount to only $1000 PER MONTH. $250 play money is included in that.
    I don't need $1.2 million.

  • @AnthonyStromDesign
    @AnthonyStromDesign 6 лет назад

    What about Health insurance? Did you account for that? Even if you purchase insurance yourself, the premium will keep going up. Most jobs offers health insurance so if you don't work then there goes that option.

  • @rodneygonzales2781
    @rodneygonzales2781 9 лет назад +2

    Not bad...I think the music in the background is a bit distracting

  • @CENATHON
    @CENATHON 7 лет назад

    This is smart, ur lucky u have eachother cause i would be a paid if one of u guys didnt want to do it

  • @davidlevang1
    @davidlevang1 6 лет назад

    Just saw this video... did you make your July 2018 goal?

  • @alibeatz2170
    @alibeatz2170 7 лет назад +1

    Everyone is retired, its just the case that what you do in your life makes you happy.

  • @ErickaWilliamsCC
    @ErickaWilliamsCC 10 лет назад +4

    great stuff. mr money mustache talks about retiring in 7 years if you have a plan. I would personally prefer to invest in a duplex each year to two years, by moving after 12-24 months into the next duplex until i get to 4 duplexes total replacing your 20k-30k income. Also there are some homes in dallas and houston area for 50k that are not war zones and receive 750-800 rent a month.

    • @MikeAndLaurenTV
      @MikeAndLaurenTV  10 лет назад

      Our plan is to do a mix of stocks and real estate. Unfortunately we don't have many duplexes here in florida.

  • @capi1lope
    @capi1lope 9 лет назад

    You know what's funny? I was going to ask if you'd ever read MMM. Sounds like you're quite familiar with Badassery.

    • @MikeAndLaurenTV
      @MikeAndLaurenTV  9 лет назад

      capi1lope Indeed. In fact, we got to meet MMM himself at FinCon last year. It was awesome!

  • @cutweldngrind
    @cutweldngrind 6 лет назад

    Im putting away 12% of my salary in a 401k. I was thinking this morning in cranking it up to 20 to 22% that way I have less cash to throw away. I am mid 30s and would like to retire sooner. I dont have a pension plan at work but my employeer matchs us 6%. I still have a minute on your video to go but good info.

  • @ChasingTheSunn
    @ChasingTheSunn 9 лет назад +2

    I love all of your video's. I was wondering if you could do a video on what types stocks/bonds you invest in. I'm 40 years old and I want to retire in 10 years. I have taking the needed steps to free up $400 bucks a month to invest, however I'm not sure where to put that money. I have a Roth Ira and have some money invested , however I wanted to know where to put it going forward , for greater returns. Thanks

    • @JohnGrayFinance
      @JohnGrayFinance 7 лет назад

      Anna Mals I would recommend mutual funds as opposed to single stock

  • @CarnifaxMachine
    @CarnifaxMachine 8 лет назад

    How are you calculating "saving x percent of your income"?
    For example, my goal is 50%. I calculate that by taking 50% of my weighted average annual gross income (before taxes, excluding bonuses). Then I count saving as any contribution to my 401(k), company match, Roth IRA, and brokerage acct (I exclude HSA contributions).
    Some people might be looking at after-tax take-home income, or including house equity into their "savings." Clarity would be appreciated.

  • @emikami1
    @emikami1 7 лет назад +1

    These extreme early retirement videos propagated by many assumptions never seem to die.
    I'm all for cutting expense and making your financial life more efficient but I think
    I need to clarify some of the assumptions behind this math.
    During the accumulation phase, it is simply using average returns of the stock market and
    average inflation. During distribution it is using the 4% rule.
    Average historic return might be around 10% and average inflation might be
    around 3%. The combination is about (1.1 / 1.03) = 1.06796 or around 6.8%. Notice that
    inflation itself is compounding. Notice there's no tax in this equation. Therefore, even
    if the assumption were met during your accumulation phase, unless all of your investments
    can produce tax free returns, it will fall short. So tax is the first problem.
    Second problem. Average returns may not happen during your accumulation phase.
    Goal of getting this done by 30 is a major challenge because the time period is rather short
    for most people. A lot of people went through college and many majors end up taking 5 years
    instead of 4. You start earning full time income at around 23 so that leaves only about 7
    years. There are plenty of 7 year periods which the stock market has not produced negative
    returns and many more which the returns were negative after inflation.
    The first 2 problems aren't that bad because you can see obviously that the plan failed by the
    time you reach 30 so you simply keep working until you hit that magic number of 25 times of
    your expense.
    Then the plan is to switch to a balance fund of about 50% stocks and 50% bonds. Supposedly
    by historic returns after inflation, a person can withdrawal 4% of the balance in the first
    year and increase the withdrawal every year by the rate of inflation and the result was that
    96% of the time the portfolio lasted _30 years_. Notice that if the first 2 hurdles were met,
    and you happily quit at age 30, there's a 4% chance you will run out of money by the time you
    are 60. You won't be eligible for social security because of the age and you also may not
    have 10 years of work record so you may never get it even at age 70. In fact, you may not even
    get medicare at age 65. The 4% chance is based on the past and may not be the case in the future.
    Currently, we face extraordinary low interest rate so half of that portfolio is nowhere near
    average so there's a pretty good chance the 4% chance is more like 15% chance and maybe
    even that is being optimistic. So this problem is way worse than the first 2 problems. When
    combined with the fault mentioned in the video of needing to stay within the budget for a
    lifetime creates a bigger problem because you may have random setbacks that didn't happen
    during your accumulation phase that you didn't expect into the future.
    The 4th problem is that every person's inflation rate is different and even varied depending
    on what you need to spend money at their life cycle. When you are young, most of the expense
    might be for housing and transportation. But as you get older, the health care cost becomes a
    much more significant percentage thus your personal inflation rate tends to go up. Another
    inflation killer is education expense if you want to help your kids through college. Inflation
    rate is not known in advanced and inflation rate for your personal situation often can be
    higher than the official numbers.
    Thus, there's a need to overshoot the target beyond the 4% rule especially if you are going to
    retire well before 30 years prior to your life expectancy. 4% rule was fine for people retiring
    about age 60 because people may be dead by 90 or even if they survive it, at least they will have
    social security and medicare by then so it isn't a complete loss. If you try this at age 30, you
    are asking for trouble. To mitigate the risks somewhat, you need a lot more cash especially to
    cover many years in the early retirement. But with CD rates so low, the money required to do that
    is huge. There's been times in the stock market which took 15 years to recover after inflation
    so imagine having to save 15 years of expense just in CD's and to overcome inflation during those
    15 years. Even that's not really guaranteed...it is merely something that has happened in history.
    So if 4% rule is ok at age 65 to cover the possibility of living to 95 and even that has a failure
    rate of 4%, at age 30, you plan the same way and cover for 65 years of retirement is a totally different
    picture. 30 years at 4% withdrawal rate implies 1.22% internal rate of return after inflation.
    If you extend it to 65 years, the withdrawal rate drops to 2.237%. You need 44.7 times your expense
    to do the same thing at age 30. In other words, you need 1.79 times as you though you needed by
    the 4% rule at age 30. Even when returns are higher than this rate, if the returns started off
    negative early in retirement, it becomes difficult to recover from even if the average return
    were to regress back to the the average of about 4-5%. This is why there's a 4% failure rate at
    30 years with the 4% rule. This isn't even accounting for the other issues I already mentioned
    such as personal inflation rate and random events in life.

  • @kellyvillelocal7254
    @kellyvillelocal7254 7 лет назад

    Great video guys, thanks.
    This is a great philosophy for building money for retirement and then living by the same frugality. The only other point I would make on this video is that it is based upon a retirement period of 25 years (i.e. spend $25k for 25 years = $625k). Therefore, if you retire after 17 years after spending $25k and saving $25k per year and you started work at 25, then you retire at age 42 and you can live on $25k for 25 years to age 67. Then what do you do when the money runs out and you are still skinny but healthy?
    I am just saying that you need to think about it ...

  • @AcerbusGaming
    @AcerbusGaming 10 лет назад

    can you make a video about renting out properties.

    • @MikeAndLaurenTV
      @MikeAndLaurenTV  10 лет назад

      AcerbusGaming We're still working on getting our rental property. But when we do get it finalized, for sure!

  • @GrantAllenVideo
    @GrantAllenVideo 7 лет назад

    dudes! i'll be following you, and all good mustachians should. But I have a huge question that i haven't been able to answer. How do you get the money that you want to retire early with out of the accounts? is there a special place or method that let's you deposit money into investments, but also withdraw your 4% each year in your 30's without the hefty penalties that an IRA or 401K would? is it just a taxable account? Where do you put your "nest egg" so that it is available to you in early retirement (before the age of 59 and a half)?

    • @imanolperez3230
      @imanolperez3230 7 лет назад +1

      For example, you might want to invest in companies that pay high dividends. You would have your principal invested in these companies, and you would not touch that money nor the profits of that money. The only thing you would keep are the dividends the companies pay.
      For example, there are ETFs that invest in companies with high dividend yield. Vanguard High Dividend Yield is one example of such ETFs.

  • @dissakornseethongchart135
    @dissakornseethongchart135 8 лет назад +1

    This is Gold. I've only seen two videos from this channel including this one and I love it already. Subscribed!

  • @chris000089
    @chris000089 5 лет назад +1

    You don’t need to sit in a cubicle all day. Bar tending one or two nights a week is a good source of income.

  • @_cloudface_
    @_cloudface_ 8 лет назад

    It's a year later-did you make it?

  • @h.junior8218
    @h.junior8218 6 лет назад

    its may 2018, how is the plan going?

  • @hexodeci
    @hexodeci 9 лет назад

    Sorry I dont know if you cover this in another video....whats your 75% calculation? mortgage / 401k included in that?

    • @MikeAndLaurenTV
      @MikeAndLaurenTV  9 лет назад

      Shane Daley Hey Shane, great question. You can check out the "Mike and Lauren Exposed" video for a breakdown with real numbers. But basically we take all of our savings, including IRAs, 401k's etc. and divide that by our income. So if we save $3500 each month out of $5k earned, that would be a 70% savings rate.

  • @superplan89
    @superplan89 6 лет назад

    Should we not invest in 401 k anymore, I plan to quit as soon as I can live off my nest egg, or could we get the 401k when we turn 59

  • @benmoffat7509
    @benmoffat7509 10 лет назад

    Great video guys. I love this subject matter.
    I stumbled upon the early retirement community about a year ago and haven't looked back. I'm currently 30 and plan to retire by 40. Our (me and my pregnant wife) current savings rate is 40% - I'm hoping to get this to 50% by year end and steadily increase it from there.
    Good luck with your goal!