Current standard demons considering a Bane of Doom: Bad results : (for 5 mana you don't want 1 drops either so..) *Flame imp *Malcherzaar's imp *Void walker *Blood imp *Unlicensed bullshit *Howlfiend* *Street trickster Good results: *Dread Infernal *Abyssal *Lakkari Felhound *Despicable Dreadlord *Doom guard *Felguard *Pitlord *Illidan *Jaraxxus *Prince Malchezaar *Krul "Meh..." result: *Void terror Out of 20 demons, you have 8 bad and 11 good which makes Bane of Doom an average 57.8947368421% worth of playing in a kazakus deck. I would say it's pretty good percentage. If Kripp plays it... then nevermind. Never fucking lucky all the time. Yeah forgot to say, sorry for bad englando, Cheers
There's 2 Demons I don't want from Bane of Doom, and apothecary is definitely one off them. But getting a 3/6 howlfiend in a non-discard deck is probably the worst. at least I can make use of, or kill off a 5/5. BTW, unlicensed Krul the unshackled with unlicensed apothecary in your hands is best self OTK
1:25 "I attacked [his 1/3] the first time in case he had Rockpool, that way I could Mortal Coil and kill his guy" That line doesn't make any sense. If he had Rockpool, his guy would be a 2/2 after he attacked your 1/2 Voidwalker. Mortal Coil would be useless.
No, as I already said above, it would be a 2/2 AFTER he attacked the Voidwalker. It would be a 2/3 before he attacked the Voidwalker, because Rockpool Hunter gives +1/+1.
I never understand why they like to print cards like cursed blade and UA that make other cards so bad. The chance of cursed blade always made malkorok risky. and it's almost too risky to play bane of doom in a deck with the new warlock death knight because rolling a UA makes the death knight unplayable.
Bane of Doom is better now if anything, there's one demon that's so bad it hurts your end game. All the other standard demons except Street Trickster are good.
Nevermind the fact that it can also spawn blood imps and other 1 drop demons. Sure, they're nice but if you were to add it up it's deal 2 summon a flame imp (or another 1 drop demon) is worth a little less than 2 mana, paying 5 for that and it having the requirement to kill it's target just makes it rather bad. Sure, you may high roll and get a 6/6. But for every 6/6 there's a demon that actually HURTS you if it's summoned
Wait, wasn't Kibler dead at the end of the video if he hadn't gotten a Cornered Sentry? He had 15 damage and could kill tar lurker with 10 damage and punch face for victory? He said he wasn't but I'm a little confused.
As you Played no demons after until you hit 10 mana you could of played gulden right then. Then not summon until you kill it again as he would of revived last
I'm a new player..... 3 druids in a row playing ranked.... can I just.... just.... just.... I got to rank 19 on a win streak because y'know most players that rank are not good at building decks.... but 3 druids later and I'm back at rank 20.
Brian Tjokroadiguno wrong, they come in simultaneously and the UA sees the rest come in, it's happened and been tested time and time again, look at other videos for proof
That's why Shamans get rekt when they evolve a full board and one of the cards is UA. For example, totems count as one drops so if you evolve one level you could end up with a Doomsayer, but if you play Thrall DK you evolve two levels so your totems could become UAs. (Now I wonder if enyone's ever gotten lethal with Devolve on their opponent if a 4 drop turns into UA.)
Not. The unlicensed apothecary is still on the board, so summoning all the other demons will still kill him. The only way would be to remove the apothecary in some way that isn't killing it. Hex, polymorph or devolve, basically, none of which were going to show up in this game.
Demons created by Bane of Doom will not actually get summoned by Guldan because they aren't summoned by the player themself. I've tried this on multiple occasions. Jaraxxus's infernals on the other hand will be summoned if they die. So really Brian had nothing to worry about here. He just thought that he did.
francisco ribeiro Test it. I'm telling you I have and that it does not work. I think you are mistaken. The way bane of doom works is the card summons the demon, not the player, and Guldan specifically says to summon demons you summon. I have tested this multiple times and not gotten any of my demons back that died after bane of doom summoned a random one. I'm 500+ wins with warlock and I play the class all the time.
Play the tar lurker to protect the apotecary! (Ok, he didnt kill it), so u could play the guldan INMEDIATLY before killing the apotecary, that way, u would not be killed by it
Then you still die when apothecary blasts you for all the demons Gul'Dan resurrects. He blasts you for every minion you summon with him around, not just the ones summoned simultaneously with him.
Yes, that's the problem. If apothecary is (still) alive when Gul'Dan brings a bunch of demons back, he will shoot you for 5 damage for each of those summoned Demons. (Just as he would when if you'd bring him back with Gul'Dan.) In summary: Alive Apothecary -> Gul'Dan summons X demons -> you take X times 5 damage. Dead Apothecary -> Gul'Dan summons X demons + apothecary -> you take X times 5 damage. The only way to possibly survive it (outside of having enough life to spare) is if you have more dead demons than you have minion spaces. That way you can get extremely lucky and only bring back the non-apothecary demons.
"again, so kind of you to join me"
stijn jacobs "A game"* :)
"again" is more fun if you just nethered him away Ivor Ploom :P
Shiro has been missing from the vids too long at this point 0.0
How looong can this go on?
free me =(
shiro kidnapped confirmed
Good riddance
If Brian was asian we would have made unfunny jokes about it but we can't do even that :(
Current standard demons considering a Bane of Doom:
Bad results : (for 5 mana you don't want 1 drops either so..)
*Flame imp
*Malcherzaar's imp
*Void walker
*Blood imp
*Unlicensed bullshit
*Howlfiend*
*Street trickster
Good results:
*Dread Infernal
*Abyssal
*Lakkari Felhound
*Despicable Dreadlord
*Doom guard
*Felguard
*Pitlord
*Illidan
*Jaraxxus
*Prince Malchezaar
*Krul
"Meh..." result:
*Void terror
Out of 20 demons, you have 8 bad and 11 good which makes Bane of Doom an average 57.8947368421% worth of playing in a kazakus deck. I would say it's pretty good percentage. If Kripp plays it... then nevermind. Never fucking lucky all the time.
Yeah forgot to say, sorry for bad englando, Cheers
No Succubus?
Shit! i missed her!
Hey kibler, i really liked your deathknight rexxar deck can you play it more? Sorry for my english
Lucas Santos dont need to apologize, man (:
Kid?
weirdBox Heh. Nothin personnel kid
*personal
And yet you call me a kid.
Lucas Santos br?
bruh kibler pissed in the beginning ;)
yung n8 I'm guessing Twitch chat was heckling again lol
The same old Twitch char lethal.
There's 2 Demons I don't want from Bane of Doom, and apothecary is definitely one off them. But getting a 3/6 howlfiend in a non-discard deck is probably the worst. at least I can make use of, or kill off a 5/5.
BTW, unlicensed Krul the unshackled with unlicensed apothecary in your hands is best self OTK
Have you seen the magic trick Mediv pulled at 5:15 ?
Wow that was insane
One does not simply banish Medivh from the board.
1:25 "I attacked [his 1/3] the first time in case he had Rockpool, that way I could Mortal Coil and kill his guy"
That line doesn't make any sense. If he had Rockpool, his guy would be a 2/2 after he attacked your 1/2 Voidwalker. Mortal Coil would be useless.
He's drunk 80% of the time when he's streaming.
No, as I already said above, it would be a 2/2 AFTER he attacked the Voidwalker. It would be a 2/3 before he attacked the Voidwalker, because Rockpool Hunter gives +1/+1.
You are stupid as shit.
InfinityGamesOn 1/2 becomes 2/3 then attacks the 1/2 becoming a 2/2. You are stupid as shit.
I never understand why they like to print cards like cursed blade and UA that make other cards so bad. The chance of cursed blade always made malkorok risky. and it's almost too risky to play bane of doom in a deck with the new warlock death knight because rolling a UA makes the death knight unplayable.
Mages feels the same about mad bomber.
Matt Ender why? Actually curious
I think he meant Bomb Squad the five mana 2/2 with deathrattle deal five to your hero. It was added to intentionally make firelands portal worse
Viktor Falk think he meant firelands and bomb squad not the 2 drop mad bomber.
It's a way to indirectly nerf strong cards like Malkorok and Firelands Portal.
well played, made the right sacrifices
is it still 100% winrate?
Wait does apothecary actually dmg you like that? Its technically all played at the same time right like krul?
I'm glad to see that warlock is at least somewhat good again
I just opened the mage quest twice, i thought this shouldn't or if its a bug
you should play 1 trachery , just in case you want to give an unwanted minion to your opponent
That card is the reason I don't play bane of doom anymore, even in wild. It used to be one of my favorite cards....
Deck list?
video starts with Brian being annoyed
extraordinary
If I were in your shoes: F*ck this f*cking rng! F*CK!! *concede*
Was twisting nether really always in the game! I could have sworn it was added in one of the early expansions
Indeed it's a classic card
I think DOOM is Karazhan, but Nether is either Classic or Basic.
I played evolve shaman and evolved a board of 2 drops and I was at 15 health. I got apothecary and got rekt
This is precisely why I never run unlicensed apothecary, or why it should only ever see play with treachery
Sick video maaan.....
Beginning of the video Kibler sounds pretty salty XD
Kibs you hould post your decks' code so we can copy and paste it
Join the Gul'Dan they say UGH!
that opponents Tespa Cardbackback tho
click 4 for that thumbnail moment
Natalie, we need longer videos
Did someone just get rekt in the beginning?
That paladin should have been going face since the turn he played rallying blade.
Paladin was probably afraid of Faceless Shambler, so he traded into Ddrake.
Yeah bane of doom is such a shit card with current demons
Bane of Doom is better now if anything, there's one demon that's so bad it hurts your end game. All the other standard demons except Street Trickster are good.
"Howlfiend is good"
Somers h o w l f r e i n d
Test Test so five mana deal two damage summon a howlfiend is good?
Nevermind the fact that it can also spawn blood imps and other 1 drop demons. Sure, they're nice but if you were to add it up it's deal 2 summon a flame imp (or another 1 drop demon) is worth a little less than 2 mana, paying 5 for that and it having the requirement to kill it's target just makes it rather bad. Sure, you may high roll and get a 6/6. But for every 6/6 there's a demon that actually HURTS you if it's summoned
Wait, wasn't Kibler dead at the end of the video if he hadn't gotten a Cornered Sentry? He had 15 damage and could kill tar lurker with 10 damage and punch face for victory? He said he wasn't but I'm a little confused.
Kibler would've killed the megasaur if he didn't get the sentry.
Oooh right, whoops, I see now.
ELITEGundam because he was going to trade kun with the 5/4 but got the 2/6 from atiesh bloodbloom before he attacked so he went face
he still had a 7/7 to trade into one of his opponents minions?
he would trade if he wasn't get a that taunt, otherwise, if he would still go face whitout another taunt he would be dead
6:46 played into concecration lethal by not trading
Wouldn't consecration been lethal anyway? It hits all enemies, including face, not just minions.
Consecration would been lethal anyway, should traded for playing into equality tough
Max Overpower you're an idiot.
but he still had 2 hp so concencration would kill him anyway
Bloody hellfire!
Came here for the thumbnail.
Considering that guy does 5 for every minion u play it really should a bigger than merely a 5/5
Hahahaha xD I was the one who forgot that Drain Soul can't target face so I called missed lethal xD Stupid me ;d
As you
Played no demons after until you hit 10 mana you could of played gulden right then. Then not summon until you kill it again as he would of revived last
Can you play this deck without Krul the Unshackled? 😃
Coasterfreak01 no
Trump got legend with Demon Handlock. It changes a lot of stuff though.
Coasterfreak01 highlanderlock without Krul and Reno? I think it's better then just to make one of the other DK warlock decks
Kiblers deck doesn't contain reno because reno isn't in standard.
i'M gOnNa GeT nUmBeR 1 lEgEnD
Kibler always playing the wackiest decks. Warlock is decently powerful and popular but just look at that list!
I still have nightmare on that demon..ughhh
Another game where he wins by getting extremely lucky.
Super salt from Kibler at the beginning of this one lol
Noice ass game!
I lost a game for the same reason! Ahahah... I hate that card!
Yes
I'm a new player..... 3 druids in a row playing ranked.... can I just.... just.... just.... I got to rank 19 on a win streak because y'know most players that rank are not good at building decks.... but 3 druids later and I'm back at rank 20.
Bromora Gaming that's how the start of a new season works. All the net Decker's will bugger of to rank 10 in a few days.
Atticblur thank god xD
And that friends is why bane of doom sounds good, but honestly just sucks.
Give decklist code to us mobile players
i really hate that stupid unlicensed demon it cost me a match i was winning
Maybe remove Bane of Doom? :/
i play hs on tablet. the quality of the cards in yours vids is better than mine when i play 😓🔫
Elezard Gaming he is playing on PC. Tablet and phone card quality really suck
lucifer Kai i know that he plays on pc but thanks
Elezard Gaming I misunderstood your comment lol. Because I thought you think he is playing with tablet like you and his card quality is better lol
lucifer Kai lol
Is the quality better on laptops? As opposed to phone or tablet?
Bane of doom has gotten some awful rolls in the last 2 expansions (howlfiend and unlicensed apothecary)
UA is MSG
for some reason I though JTU was before MSG
And good rolls. You can't say it's only negative.
This is not mtg btw, apothecary was the last demon, so if u played guldan u would have taken 0 damage
Brian Tjokroadiguno wrong, they come in simultaneously and the UA sees the rest come in, it's happened and been tested time and time again, look at other videos for proof
That's why Shamans get rekt when they evolve a full board and one of the cards is UA. For example, totems count as one drops so if you evolve one level you could end up with a Doomsayer, but if you play Thrall DK you evolve two levels so your totems could become UAs. (Now I wonder if enyone's ever gotten lethal with Devolve on their opponent if a 4 drop turns into UA.)
Brian Tjokroadiguno Not how it works. UA hits 5 for every demon summoned. It's been tested and verified.
That last play was risky, if the opponent ran consecration in his deck it was lethal o.o
Play Tar Lurker on 9 and Gul'Dan on 10, so it doesnt revive the Apothecary. That would've worked or not?!
Not. The unlicensed apothecary is still on the board, so summoning all the other demons will still kill him. The only way would be to remove the apothecary in some way that isn't killing it. Hex, polymorph or devolve, basically, none of which were going to show up in this game.
DrakonIL brainfart... Thanks that makes total sense.
If Kibler is running spell break he can break the apothecary and try to keep it alive for a guldan the next turn.
Or rng favours him and apothecary revives last.
blizzard nerf streamers plz
Any of u Guys are watching this and think tonyourself to get all cards of hearthstone because i m not strong in Legendary and Epic number of cards
...What?
Demons created by Bane of Doom will not actually get summoned by Guldan because they aren't summoned by the player themself. I've tried this on multiple occasions. Jaraxxus's infernals on the other hand will be summoned if they die. So really Brian had nothing to worry about here. He just thought that he did.
GameRage Dad that's just incorrect any demon that is summoned for bane and then dies will be summoned by guldan it's happened to me before
francisco ribeiro Test it. I'm telling you I have and that it does not work. I think you are mistaken. The way bane of doom works is the card summons the demon, not the player, and Guldan specifically says to summon demons you summon. I have tested this multiple times and not gotten any of my demons back that died after bane of doom summoned a random one. I'm 500+ wins with warlock and I play the class all the time.
whats he even saying at the start of the video
Play the tar lurker to protect the apotecary!
(Ok, he didnt kill it), so u could play the guldan INMEDIATLY before killing the apotecary, that way, u would not be killed by it
Then you still die when apothecary blasts you for all the demons Gul'Dan resurrects. He blasts you for every minion you summon with him around, not just the ones summoned simultaneously with him.
NivMizzet89 nope, because the apotecary didnt died
Edit: ohhh wait, now i understood!! U are right xD (i would have lost that match) xD
Yes, that's the problem. If apothecary is (still) alive when Gul'Dan brings a bunch of demons back, he will shoot you for 5 damage for each of those summoned Demons. (Just as he would when if you'd bring him back with Gul'Dan.) In summary:
Alive Apothecary -> Gul'Dan summons X demons -> you take X times 5 damage.
Dead Apothecary -> Gul'Dan summons X demons + apothecary -> you take X times 5 damage.
The only way to possibly survive it (outside of having enough life to spare) is if you have more dead demons than you have minion spaces. That way you can get extremely lucky and only bring back the non-apothecary demons.
Other possibility would be to silence it, keep it alive one more turn, then play Gul'dan DK.
caliscribe i thought that too, but who runs a silence effect with warlock???
The game is ruined by RNG: make cards that instantly win or lose the game when randomly generated. I rate 7/7 good job blizzard
I"ve been seeing a lot of highlights where Shamans are getting ruined by Apothocary when they evolve a full board.
Biggierino Cheeserino Kripperino ii
It's a card game, anyway in most of the cases the winner is the one who draw better cards.
bane of doom is garbage
Someone give me legendaries
Lol
heres an idea, dont play bane of doom.
First?