Why Pro Heihachi Players Prefer Double Electric Combo over Triple Electric Combo?

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  • Опубликовано: 25 окт 2024

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  • @FortuneKOF
    @FortuneKOF 9 часов назад +61

    *watches pro players do a different combo*
    *Labs and discovers the reason*
    *Declares he will use the optimized version*
    *Immediately applies it in replays*
    This is exactly why labbing, researching and applying is so important. It's exactly why there is always a reason to practice.

  • @nensho._
    @nensho._ 49 минут назад +2

    This is how crazy the scaling is in this game lmaoo

  • @illiahryhorak5860
    @illiahryhorak5860 9 часов назад +37

    Haha, always thought, that the more electrics - the better combos you get. Thanks for the update.

    • @lumineanwari2126
      @lumineanwari2126 3 часа назад +1

      Yea , I don't think any other mishima really gets any benefit from doing triple electrics except for kazuya and even then it's not that massive of a difference in combo damage in comparison to a double electric , I would say it's more like a way of showing more execution rather than the damage it self or in other ways some may say it's the mishima brain

    • @esqeleteT8
      @esqeleteT8 2 часа назад

      @@lumineanwari2126 he gains like literally 1 more damage and loses wallcarry, plus is way harder than 2 ewgf and way harder than heis's 3 ewgf combo

  • @Carlisho
    @Carlisho 2 часа назад +7

    OBJECTION!!!
    “Triple electric not only looks cooler with higher style points, but you also send the opponent a message, which is more important than the win 😎”

    • @mwkan772
      @mwkan772  2 часа назад +1

      Haha yeah true

  • @Garyee__
    @Garyee__ 9 часов назад +26

    fun fact, when you do heat burst at the wall you can do jab into df3. It is the max damage wall combo if you do it this way. Only works if you heatburst.

    • @thejoekage9499
      @thejoekage9499 5 часов назад +1

      probably not after the high wall splat sneaking in the 1+2, but in every other instance with less hits yes

    • @Garyee__
      @Garyee__ 3 часа назад

      @@thejoekage9499 no it will work after the high wall splat trust me

  • @Exslider2
    @Exslider2 8 часов назад +8

    The double electric into hellsweep combo is actually really cool in my opinion and it also fits Heihachi very well considering how he uses hellsweep in the past games.

  • @RyzingSol
    @RyzingSol 5 часов назад +7

    Double electric is more consistent. Plus, it carries to the wall from far away.

  • @joshhawickhorst4114
    @joshhawickhorst4114 59 минут назад

    Wow, I remember fighting you back when you were red ranks man… now I’m stealing your heihachi tech lmao. That’s inspiring

  • @HELLRAISER02
    @HELLRAISER02 9 часов назад +5

    Ever since i saw a combo guide i always did stance hellsweep combo cuz it looked cool but it can be awkward to input, but ye fun to see dmg go up

  • @FWCrash
    @FWCrash 8 часов назад +11

    MainMan called me someone with no brain cells after telling him in chat that i use the hellsweep route after he mentioned "his" combo with the df1 being superior :)

    • @Meminjo
      @Meminjo 5 часов назад

      TMM is a narcissistic manchild with an overinflated ego, who doesn't think he needs to lab anything because he's been playing for 25 years. This is the reason he struggles so much in ranked, but he also has a really toxic mindset and abuses his chat on the daily.
      Why anyone puts up with his nonsense is beyond me.

    • @RizalBoon
      @RizalBoon 3 часа назад

      Bet he gonna try refute this video as well 😂

    • @mwkan772
      @mwkan772  2 часа назад +1

      xD

  • @Autoswitched
    @Autoswitched 51 минуту назад

    triple electric combo ending the combo with b2 charged into dash cd4,3 will do 83 to 85 depending on if you hit the golden b2. This is the combo i was stapling which does 4 more damage without resources

  • @Hachijo3GS
    @Hachijo3GS 5 часов назад +2

    For wall travel on 3x electrics, you do f3 then df1,2 just frame.. TMM already experimented the best results

    • @mwkan772
      @mwkan772  2 часа назад +1

      I see^^ Thanks for the info bro

  • @hedelynsepada5837
    @hedelynsepada5837 2 часа назад

    the paul one is insane

  • @El-Burrito
    @El-Burrito 5 часов назад

    Good stuff! Gonna start using this too now.

  • @Dirtgut
    @Dirtgut 7 часов назад +2

    if you just have wall awareness you can change which combo you do based on the distance.

  • @lesleyguevarra5374
    @lesleyguevarra5374 2 часа назад

    I think it has to do with the filler, the F3D extensions give it way more dmg and wall travel, that might be no shit for people but just wanted to point out to those who are picking Heihachi up

  • @zaimrana2746
    @zaimrana2746 9 часов назад +1

    Actually you can quite consistently get cd44 3 after bound for the 3xelectric combo by doing a ssl after bound. It does more damage than the double electric staple and I mainly use that combo (still has inferior wall travel though).

  • @SGHNTZ
    @SGHNTZ 6 часов назад

    The thing is the 3x EWGF combo is more consistent from off axis. Atleast that's how I feel.

  • @meeep873
    @meeep873 2 часа назад

    For the stage that has far wall go for ss2 into thunder stance 1 for the ender it does more damage

  • @johnysimps1191
    @johnysimps1191 2 часа назад

    If you end triple electric with SS2f1 it will deal 83 dmg i believe. Don't know about wall travel but it's more dmg. Might be better in infinite stages over 2 electrics

  • @smugaladdin8372
    @smugaladdin8372 8 часов назад

    After bound in the 3 ewgf combo you can ssl when you reach the opponent and cd443 will connect.
    This is also possible if you do ch b4, charge b2, electric etc, but the side step timing is very tight.

  • @MaNickgga
    @MaNickgga 5 часов назад

    When I'm on the left I'm a god, but when I'm on the right I'm dead. Gotta learn to play Mishima's on the right side

  • @NomoregoodnamesD8
    @NomoregoodnamesD8 9 часов назад +6

    3 electric seems more consistent, or at least more intuitive.
    f+3,d WKG.DF4,4,1 having no buffer window while also being like a 20 frame hold input instead of a fast motion input just feels muddy.

    • @FWCrash
      @FWCrash 8 часов назад

      i disagree, but to each their own. I never drop it

    • @sundragonbro2080
      @sundragonbro2080 7 часов назад

      3 electrics is not more consistent but w/e floats ur boat

  • @nhanle9218
    @nhanle9218 2 часа назад

    Personally i like 3 electrics with ss 2,1 ender for max dmg... 2 electrics into hellsweep drops a lot.. people just tech roll and if it lags 100% youll drop it. Sorry im taking guaranteed max dmg with triple eletrics

  • @edsoad
    @edsoad 16 минут назад

    If you have heat and a decent wall splat why dont you do 1, b1,1+2>d3,1+2?

  • @krullexneo
    @krullexneo 4 часа назад +1

    This video caused me to head back to the lab and I just figured this out, give it a try!
    Do 3x ewgf and after the bound run up close, do a charged b2 and then a fast dash into hellsweep and it should connect. It's 83 damage (85 with gold spark) and the same if not more wall carry as the 2x ewgf combo :D

  • @drhighpinger7934
    @drhighpinger7934 8 часов назад

    Me too , completely changed my combo

  • @sucinistro
    @sucinistro 4 часа назад

    Cool stuff

  • @OrionTekken
    @OrionTekken 5 часов назад

    With the triple electric you can do uf34 into qcf2 though

  • @PUNCHEDPUNCHEDPUNCHED
    @PUNCHEDPUNCHEDPUNCHED 58 минут назад

    Not a Hei player, only sub, but I prefer it because it has more sauce lmao

  • @Krando_
    @Krando_ 3 часа назад

    Still have yet to see a heihachi do my electric combo, its more dmg than both dunno about wall carry tho.

  • @GozieZilla
    @GozieZilla 7 часов назад +3

    3 electric combo does more than 77 damage lol, you're ending it wrong. Hellsweep is not the optimal combo ender

    • @digaum1657
      @digaum1657 4 часа назад

      dude didn't discover D3, 2 yet is seems. I usually finish with b2, heatburst, b2 again and d3,1. is not even optimal and I get 90+ damage lol

  • @digaum1657
    @digaum1657 5 часов назад

    sorry, I go for style and not damage or wall carry. And you didn't try to do the 90+ damage route with heatburt so i'll just keep doing my triple eletric bc it's cool as fuck

  • @castorcrossfit6721
    @castorcrossfit6721 56 минут назад

    Bro at the end of the combo instead of doing the hellsweep do sidestep 2 into raijin and then 1, you get 7 more damage

  • @縣
    @縣 8 часов назад +1

    Just a quick thing about the title, you should remove the last question mark as the title is a statement and not a question.

    • @digaum1657
      @digaum1657 4 часа назад

      wtf. It's clearly a question. A question that the video answers...

  • @finalfilms28
    @finalfilms28 8 часов назад

    Actually, triple electric is still max damage if you replace the df1 with f3,stance1. Wall carry without a doubt goes to the hellsweep combo however.

    • @krullexneo
      @krullexneo 7 часов назад

      It works out the same damage as df1 in the end as it's only 1 damage difference but the scaling makes it equal by the end of your combo. df1 is far more consistent for smaller hurtbox characters. I've had f3, 1 whiff so many times and noticed most higher ranked players user df1 and after testing. It's the same damage at the end of your combo. Also SSL before you hellsweep and you can do 2 lows into the high instead of 1

    • @finalfilms28
      @finalfilms28 6 часов назад

      @@krullexneo oh, interesting. To be fair, I only labbed damage up to the bound. Plus, triple electric is 1 less hit I believe, so I always assumed there was more room for optimization. Works out anyway as I have a lot of muscle memory for the hellsweep route, and I dropped triple electric route sometimes anyways, which i mitigated through a deep dash 3rd electric (which almost makes the route universal across the cast but is SO much harder on heihachi than kazuya). Appreciate the response.

    • @krullexneo
      @krullexneo 5 часов назад

      @@finalfilms28 Yeah even though Hei has a pewgf like Kaz his ewgf hits higher up it seems, Kaz's hits far lower down making more electrics easier :D I've just done some testing and it would seem doing the hellsweep route is indeed better as it's only 1 damage less (if you do double hellsweep ender after 3 electrics) and it is better wall carry and keeps you closer to the opponent

  • @TheLaxed
    @TheLaxed 5 часов назад

    Pro players? hell i was doing double electric into hell sweeps because it did the same amount of damage, and it just felt more natural to me.

  • @Fariorn
    @Fariorn 6 часов назад

    Good Video! Insane Execution!

    • @mwkan772
      @mwkan772  2 часа назад

      Glad you liked it^^

  • @RuTo94
    @RuTo94 6 часов назад

    Heihachi wall carry is disgusting lol 😂

  • @krullexneo
    @krullexneo 7 часов назад

    SSL before the hellsweep :)

    • @stealthexecutor563
      @stealthexecutor563 7 часов назад +1

      Still less wallcarry.

    • @krullexneo
      @krullexneo 5 часов назад +1

      @@stealthexecutor563 It's 80 damage and same wallcarry. Though it does leave you further away from them.
      EDIT: After further testing, it is less wall carry. I had the angle off. Seems like the triple ewgf combo starts to veer off to the left while the other keeps them more centre so it helps with taking them closer to the wall
      EDIT EDIT: After more further testing, I discovered you can do triple ewgf and instead of doing SSL into double low hellsweep, you can actually do back 2 charged then into a quick dash up single hellsweep for 83 damage, same wall carry as the double ewgf but 4 more damage and looks cool lol
      EDITEDITEDIT: It's 85 damage if you get the gold spark charge

  • @terrariaguy114
    @terrariaguy114 9 часов назад

    i do sidestep 2-stance-1 as an ender if i cant hit wall

  • @runayswarts970
    @runayswarts970 7 часов назад +1

    You end triple electric combo badly

  • @Cat_in_The-Box
    @Cat_in_The-Box 9 часов назад

    Good info

    • @mwkan772
      @mwkan772  2 часа назад

      Glad it was helpful^^

  • @Alsry1
    @Alsry1 9 часов назад

    Have you tried the ewgf dewgf pewgf cd441 combo?

    • @mwkan772
      @mwkan772  2 часа назад

      that's kinda hard...there are chances for it to drop

  • @mehmetjj9163
    @mehmetjj9163 4 часа назад

    Can someone help me out? Whenever i did the 2 electric hellsweep combo the hellsweep whiffs 50% of the time even though i tried timing the cd and 4 input together or tried mashing. It just isn't consistent because I'm stupid did anyone experience the same issue?

    • @mwkan772
      @mwkan772  2 часа назад

      press df after going into stance
      as he does crouch dash..immediately input hell sweep

  • @Zendgar
    @Zendgar 9 часов назад

    can u play reina please?

    • @mwkan772
      @mwkan772  2 часа назад

      I will try but rn i'm very busy in studies :(

  • @certainperson
    @certainperson 8 часов назад +1

    I prefer just uppercut cuz I can't do an electric

  • @Pavian651
    @Pavian651 9 часов назад

    If you have no wall triple electric goes up to 85 damage your follow up is just wrong in that case...

    • @Pavian651
      @Pavian651 9 часов назад

      Double is just better for wall carrys and damage on Walls then

    • @digaum1657
      @digaum1657 4 часа назад

      I can do more then 90 damage if you end with d3,1 after a hold b2. fuck wall carry if I can get 90+ damage and good oki

    • @justhit6673
      @justhit6673 4 часа назад

      @@digaum1657why take 90+ when the wall gives 100+

    • @digaum1657
      @digaum1657 3 часа назад

      @@justhit6673 bc it's cooler, I get good oki and if i'm close enough I'll still get the wall combo

  • @mazenyasser7208
    @mazenyasser7208 5 часов назад

    I've known this since day 1 of Heihachi 😅

  • @siggy-san
    @siggy-san 3 часа назад

    Thanks for indirectly calling me a pro player 🥲 I always preferred this combo route

    • @mwkan772
      @mwkan772  2 часа назад +1

      haha
      I respect every player..whether that player is pro or not

    • @siggy-san
      @siggy-san 2 часа назад

      @@mwkan772 I expected nothing less from the pro 😊👍