So, this was fun, Chris! As soon as I saw the notification for this video, I determined to play along; I jumped to my pen cases to grab my WS 3008s (I have the 3008 and 3008A models, in gold-toned and chrome finishes). As you went along, I saw the Lanbitou 3059, so I grabbed a couple of those as well. Since I fancy myself the Queen of the Cheap Chinese pen, I've got a bit of a collection! LOL! I'm very fond of all of these pens; both nib styles that I have write well ( I did some very minor smoothing on one of them) and they don't give me any problems. I purchased all of mine in sets from Amazon, 'cause: I'm also Queen of Instant Gratification, and I believe in havig backups and backups of the backups! Glad to see that *disassembly* is easy, though I haven't done that yet. I keep *wanting* to purchase a TWSBI Diamond 580 AL, just for comparison's sake, but the Cheap Chinese pen lady in my head simply never allows this to happen....**sigh**... Enjoy the holiday and thank you for the surprise pen review!
Sister Sun I find it exciting to have 10 pens for the price of one TWSBI too. He he. Have ordered 3 so far. Let’s hope I hit the jackpot before I hit the limit (price of one TWSBI).
I noticed that my first 3008 (which may or may not be an A) differs from the batch of 4 received from Amazon and sold as an A. All were sold as new and bought in a stock configuration. The first visually resembles the nib on my Lamy Safari. On the new batch of four the nib visually resembles a Pilot or similar. I'm a newbie so this is all guesswork based purely on failing eyesight and without any Pilots in my collection for a proper comparison, but there seems to be a variation in nibs shipped as stock on the 3008/3008A, which is interesting. They all seem to write flawlessly, whatever they are!
@@PolyMathWannaBe62 so timely is your question, as I’ve used two of the Lanbitou pens in my version of September’s 30 inks in 30 days. I hadn’t used either of them since last YEAR around this time! (I’d moved offices and a group of my pens were misplaced (or in the Alternate Universe: you choose!) Still inked, when found, and though the FEEDS were dry, a twisting of the piston flooded them with (old) fresh ink ✍️ and we were off to the races! I’m using them as accent colors in some of my research notes, and they’ve not failed me. Maybe I’m just fortunate. I’m here for that! Lololol
I'm just beginning to learn about pens from Wing Sung and Pen BBS. The only Chinese pens I own are 2 Jinhaos so I'm enjoying exploring this whole new world of pens. I'm sorry to hear about your friend who passed away. My condolences.
Hi gadgetstop321 - it is so much fun to explore pens! I've found these 3008s are fun for me even with the small tinkering projects that have come along with them. My very favorite Chinese pen is Jinhaao X750. Thank you - I miss her very much and I was blessed to learn a lot from her and enjoyed writing letters back and forth.
Hi Sharon! I like the idea that with the cheaper pen like the 3008 - even some of the aggressive ink I wouldn't mind trying it one of those where I'd about lose it if I ruined a TWSBI. :)
A few thoughts. The 3008A with the Pilot style nib has a locking feature that helps to secure the filler knob if you continue to turn it clockwise once the piston is fully up, whereas the standard one does not. This comes in useful for those who post the pen, since the cap posts onto the filler knob & turning the posted cap actuates the piston. Lately there are a variety of supposed 3008s sold as Wing Sung but with different features, making me think Wing Sung might be licensing the design to other manufacturers. Some have a contoured tripod grip and some don't. Some have a smooth barrel and some (the ones I like most) have a kind of facetting to the barrel that feels nice in the hand. Check out the Wing Sung 3011 for an interesting variant with a Pilot style nib, tripod grip, locking filler knob but with dimensions and styling comparable to the Pilot 78G/78G+. The Wing Sung 3009 is interesting too, available in nibbed and brush pen variants. For the Lanbitou 3059 the biggest issue many have found is that the nib dries out terribly. The hack is to get a Jinhao 599 (available for a handful of loose pocket change), remove the inner cap liner and then fit it inside the Lanbitou cap. Result: a Frankentou 3599 with zero drying out or flow issues. Win!
Hi Graham -- oh wow this is interesting - I have not purchased any Chinese pens in almost a year I think so I've missed some of these developments! Now I'm eager to so some research. Also, my most enjoyable way to do that is to catch up with chrisrap52's videos!!! That cap hack sounds amazing!!!! I have a bunch of those 599s around here. That will be a great project thank you so much!
Oh Chris, thank you so much for the review! Your reviews are great, it is better than you think, they are very sincere and honest. I hope you keep doing it! I've already bought two 3008, now I'm waiting them to arrive here in Brazil! You are the best! Thank you so much!
I have one inked up right now and it has been since Oct. 30 (with KOBE #41) and it just amazes me the writing I am getting from it!!!! So glad you like yours!!!!
I have 3, with another on order. The first I really love, smooth, wet and fabulous. Unfortunately the other 2 just don’t flow at all. I haven’t tinkered properly, yet. I still may. I have high hopes for #4. Thanks for another great video. The taking apart, super helpful.
Hi Kaarin - good luck with #4 !!! I'm glad the take apart part was helpful -- the video I linked helps me so much that each time I need to do the full take apart I watch it!
Great review, thank you. I only discovered this pen recently and now have five. The latch at the top can be a little temperamental but these are so cheap and - here in the UK at least - a replacement could be here the next working day. For something so cost-effective, you really can't go wrong. On a separate note, I was sorry to hear about your departed friend. It's obvious that you cared a lot for her and treasured her friendship. I have no doubt she felt the same.
Hi Graham - thank you! These are still some of my favorite pens! I have 2 clear ones and a pink and blue one now. I love how they can be easily taken apart to clean and grease too. :) Besides being very inexpensive!
@@ChrisSaenz13 Thanks for the reply. I'm very much a lazy person with appalling handwriting. I like pens that I can just throw in a box or bag, use and abuse. I doubt I'll be particularly gentle and loving with these (though I really should try). It seems these will be able to withstand a little rough treatment. One other thought. Unless you've latched the top, if you post these then any turns on the cap will actuate the piston and dump ink. I normally post my pens but on this model it may be best to avoid doing that. Otherwise a good all-round workhorse.
You and Chrisrap52 make such a good case for these Chinese pens. I have two PenBBS pens (neither of which writes) so I haven't ventured into the Wing Sung models. Great review, Chris. Thanks and Happy 4th!
Hi Donna -- Happy 4th!!!! I have yet to try any Pen BBS Pens. The Wing Sung's I really have had a positive experience with. OH that's such a bummer on your pens that won't write -- I've been there with a few pens myself & I know it's not a fun predicament to be in!!!! Sometimes it can turn out to be an ink issue or a nib issue that I can correct other times it's just as if the pen has a grudge.
Chris firstly let me say how sorry I am that you lost your friend very sincerely and respectfully. Regarding the wing sung 3008 i have a couple and they are very good I find with the Lamy style nib, everything you said i agree with.
Thank you Matthew - I appreciate the thoughts about my friend. It was a big shock - she was in her early 40s and it was an aggressive cancer. I saved all her letters and it's amazing everything I had started to learn from her - she was very experienced with pens. I read her blog and she watched my videos. :) Oh yes the Wing Sung 3008 is a pen I'm super glad I took a chance on!!!!
Hi Christopher - I agree! I really love mine and somehow the fact they are not expensive just makes me enjoy them more I guess without worrying I'll ruin them!!!
Hi Chris, thanks for the thorough review. I have a Wing Sung 3008 too and really like it. I may have imagined it but I thought I saw a tiny spot of ink on the exterior one day. Maybe... Anyway, I disassembled it (very easy, as you show) and treated all the joints to a little smear of silicon grease, stocked to keep my eye droppers ink-tight. And, hey presto!, there's been no discernible ink egress since. Maybe I didn't need to but it can only help, is how I see it.
Hi Humboles -- I absolutely love my Wing Sung 3008s -- they write a lot more wet than my TWSBIs! Glad to hear you like yours too!! And having just taken apart my TWSBI Mini to grease the piston ... I wish it were as easy as the Wing Sung 3008. :)
I did the same with mines, they were leaking ink from the ring just above the nib. I particularly like the nibs better than Lamy as they are too wet and too broad for me. I then ordered a batch of no-branded replacements from AliExpress which were even better that I ended up changing all Lamys and Wing-Sung for them 😅 Regards
I love my Wing Sung 3008, they are a superb writer. I agree with you on the comfort over Twsbi 580. I rarely use it because of the weight, even though it’s a wonderful writer. I have 4 Wing Sung and I enjoy italic or broader nibs, I have tried putting my Lamy nibs on them and they all fall down, they are loose. Did you alter your Lamy nibs to fit them? I would love to use a 1.1 stub nib on them.
Hi @UARELOVE1010 - I didn't alter my 3008s ... the Lamy nibs fit slightly loose on mine but I keep my eye on them and the only thing I make sure -- is to take them off before I clean the pen so that I don't lose the nib by accident in the sink! My 3008s are old and from maybe some of the first waves of them I think ... the later ones I got a few were too loose also like you described. Have you tried the Jinhao 80s? They are one of the pens I most like putting Lamy nibs onto. I did some reviews of how to do it too because those have the opposite issue: it's a bear getting the stock nib off and the Lamy nibs fit very tightly ... the pen body resembles the Lamy 2000/Lamy Studio but it is a cartridge converter pen!
Thanks Chris! That was quite an in-depth review of the Wing Sung 3008. I remember this was something of a revelation when it appeared; i.e. to get a piston-filling fountain pen at this price point. The 3008 is still fantastic value and can be found on eBay for less than the price of a coffee. What I like about the pen is how comfortable it feels in my hand. As far as dislikes; the piston knob seems to have too much play and feels a bit loose. Nevertheless it all works well and for the money you really can't do much better.
Hi David -- I really did mean to mention that piston knob feeling loose. I know it hasn't given me any real trouble but it is an annoyance. Overall I love this pen still after all this time! Many of my early cheap pen purchases stay in a drawer but not these!
Nice review, tomorrow will arrive me 4 wing sung 3008 from amazon. I ordered a fine nib.... I get used to write with the lamy al star ef and the pilot metropolitan fine... in my case is to make notes for the college so I prefer to use the minimum amount of pages... so it’ s probably this fine nib won’t work for me...
Hi Fernando - I hope you enjoy the 3008s they are still among my favorites!!!!! I like putting the Lamy nibs on them too which makes them so versatile!!!
@@ChrisSaenz13 Thanks, I´m testing the wing sung pens... I filled the pens with faber castell pink (very cheap), Parker quink blue and lamy amazonite. I have problems with the pink and the parker Quink.... However the pen with the lamy amazonite works very nicely... Is it because the ink?? Do yo recomend me to clean the pens?? Other thing the nibs aren´t like lamy ... are like the metropolitan.. Thank you
The point of zinc plating is to discourage corrosion so those screws you bought should suffice. I understand from another pen-o-phile recently that newer stocks of the 3008 have a corrosion-resistant cap screw from new. Seems later variants also got a positive 'click' mechanism on the piston actuating knob, so it should get to the closed position and stay there (hopefully!)
Hi Humboles - thank you - oh these are encouraging updates about the 3008s. I really love these pens, they take down so easily with no tools for very thorough cleaning and I have had great results writing with them! Admittedly, I pop on Lamy nibs. LOL
I got the Paili version of that which is dubbed Paili 013. They are very solid pens (I mean the acrylic, as it feels very hard on the hand) but prone to scratches and fingerprints. Even though, they are very nice writers, I just had to clean the slit as it was kind or dirty and filled with Iroshizuku Shin Kai and voilà !!!
Hi Margret - oh I hope you can find one. Is e-bay the same in the USA and UK? I don't know much about that. I hate the long wait when the pens come from China but the prices have been very good!
@@ChrisSaenz13 I expect there are different vendors on us v UK though many will be the same. Amazon also has us and UK versions. I've got toomanypens though so no rush !
i got a 3008 with a pilot style nib and i have to say theere is something funky going on with my nib it hard starts all the time but when it does write its a champ i am waiting for my loupe to come in the mail and then i can finally see whats going on i could get my phone to see whats going on but thats such a hastle with my new set up maybe ill show my pilot style nib :)
Hi Marilyn - - I'm curious now about the pilot style nib on the Wing Sung 3008 because I didn't realize they were making them. I'm behind on watching chrisrap52s videos he probably has covered that. Oh a loupe will help you a lot to see what's up with the nib. Hard starts are the pits. Good luck getting it to write consistently!
Hi Chris! I bought my Wing Sung after watching this video. Thank you for showing me how to disassemble. I got two of them from China, one of them wrote so well but the other did not write at all. I tried to clean, change my inks, prime my feed but nothing worked. Is there anything else I can do?
Hi Vanilla -- oh gosh I'm sorry to hear one would not write at all that's depressing! The only other thing I know to try is putting a Lamy nib on it ... that has really been amazing with mine but there could be some defect I'm not aware of with the pen you got. I always suspect the nib first in any pen not writing situation ... however I don't have that many years experience and I don't know if maybe feeds can be defective? Do you have a Lamy nib you could try on the pen. If that works then it's most likely nib related and possible that some tuning will help it. I use brass shim material I buy at Goulet pens to open up nibs sometimes and I also use their micro-mesh -- I watch nib smoothing videos from The Pen Habit and from I think Troy LaPlante to learn more about how to do that.
@@ChrisSaenz13 Thank you Chris for the detailed explanation. I do not have a Lamy nib. I will try the other methods you had suggested. I have also contacted the seller. I love the other Wing Sung 3008 pen, it is fantastic.
I had this model of the 3008 with a Lamy 1.1 nib on it and gave it away.! I miss it. I ordered one again and it didn't have the Lamy type nib. The original wing sung fine nib was great and it's on a Wing Sung 6359 now. I am looking to buy the original 3008 if they are still available.
Hi Neil - I had found a seller on e-bay that I will order from if I get another one: chasewang. The pens will come from China so there will be a wait. The pictures show the Lamy style nib. Oh wow - I'd miss mine too if I gave it away! It is the kind of pen though that anyone can enjoy I think so I understand you wanting to share it with someone!!!!!
I got one for even cheaper ($1.25) than the wing sung. It has a different clip but no brand on it. It is really good. The EF nib writes similar to my Pilot Kakuno nib. The nib varies line width a bit over time like the steel is not as hardened on the cheaper pen. Which is okay because of the price. I also can't figure out how to take the piston end off of it even after watching you do so. I don't want to break the pen so I will just leave it as it is. Mine posts but at first it was difficult and I didn't think it did. I have been trying to figure out the grade of stainless steel that goes into modern pens and how they are hardened. I think it would make a good "how it's made" movie.
Aloha Chris! The Wing Sung 3008 was one of my first pens and I found it to be quite a joy to use. At the time, I didn't know that it had a Lamy style nib, but later found out when I briefly tried a Lamy Vista (returned it as I had my doubts if it was authentic!) and was able to swap the Lamy medium for the Wing Sung fine nib. Everything worked fine with both pens. The only thing that bothers me on the Wing Sung 3008 is the loose knob on the piston filler. Is that normal? I hope it's much better on the TWSBI models such as the TWSBI Eco? Hope you had a wonderful 4th of July and my condolences to your pen friend. Mahalo, Thomas
Hi Thomas - yes that is true of my 3008s too the piston knob has some play - it's loose - whereas the TWSBIs - Ecos & 580s that is NOT the case. Sometimes I admit that makes me nervous but so far I've had no issues with it - and since I don't post it that's probably good. Happy 4th Thomas. And thank you - I miss my pen friend very much - she was so young (early 40s) and had an aggressive cancer that seemed to come out of nowhere. I have saved all her letters.
Hi Tarvinder - interesting! I'll look into that - I have some pens from Fountain Pen Revolution but I don't think the feeds are hIndian and made - they are ebonite though.
Hi Chris, I'm not familiar with this pen but after watching your video I would consider buying it. Especially since I have a couple (maybe more) of Lamy nibs lying around, lol. Amazon did have them to buy, but how can you tell if their pens accept the Lamy or Pilot nibs? I really like pens that you can completely disassemble, and then easily put back together. Do you know of any Demonstrator FPs that use an interchangeable #6 nib? Maybe one that is also an eyedropper converter pen? I hope that you had a good 4th of July! I am so far behind in my video watching; don't know how I'm going to catch up on everything. Ginger
Hi Ginger! It was a nice 4th here!!! Oh I can relate - my "watch later" list in my You Tube Library is huge! Well, as far as demonstrator fountain pens using a #6 nib and able to be eyedroppered - have you considered a Noodler's Ahab clear? It comes with a Noodler's flex nib but I believe you can put a regular #6 nib in it. That's the one in a reasonable price range that I can think of. I'll give it some more thought......
My Watch Later list just keeps on growing, lol. Between you, chrisrap52, waskisquirrel, pens and tea, plus some travel vloggers I've got so much! I'm not complaining. There's always something to watch while working on my BuJo or eating lunch. I've researched the Ahab quite extensively. Watched lots of videos, read reviews and decided that it wasn't for me because of its foul odor. My sense of smell became more sensitive after getting pleurisy a couple of years ago. If there was a way to get rid of the smell completely I would be buying at least a couple of their pens. I think the Noodler's pens are some of the prettiest pens, and their prices are wonderful. Glad you had a good 4th.
Basically, wing sung 3008 appears to be copying the 580's and the ws 6359 mimics the lamy al star's. Not hating, just saying. Like your channel. I subscribed!
Evening. Do you mind telling me if there is a locking mechanism for the piston twisting portion. My concern is that it would accidentally turn in my pocket and spill the ink somehow.
Hi Duhizy - I have noticed that it just has a little bit of "play" in it (the piston knob) but it has never accidentally spilled ink on me ... that being said, I don't ever post the pen. I have to be honest and say I don't really know if it has a locking mechanism or not. I will try to find out.
So, this was fun, Chris!
As soon as I saw the notification for this video, I determined to play along; I jumped to my pen cases to grab my WS 3008s (I have the 3008 and 3008A models, in gold-toned and chrome finishes). As you went along, I saw the Lanbitou 3059, so I grabbed a couple of those as well. Since I fancy myself the Queen of the Cheap Chinese pen, I've got a bit of a collection! LOL!
I'm very fond of all of these pens; both nib styles that I have write well ( I did some very minor smoothing on one of them) and they don't give me any problems.
I purchased all of mine in sets from Amazon, 'cause: I'm also Queen of Instant Gratification, and I believe in havig backups and backups of the backups!
Glad to see that *disassembly* is easy, though I haven't done that yet.
I keep *wanting* to purchase a TWSBI Diamond 580 AL, just for comparison's sake, but the Cheap Chinese pen lady in my head simply never allows this to happen....**sigh**...
Enjoy the holiday and thank you for the surprise pen review!
Sister Sun ha ha. Loved that post! It added to the pleasure of the video. Thank you so much. Best wishes from India.
Sister Sun I find it exciting to have 10 pens for the price of one TWSBI too. He he. Have ordered 3 so far. Let’s hope I hit the jackpot before I hit the limit (price of one TWSBI).
I noticed that my first 3008 (which may or may not be an A) differs from the batch of 4 received from Amazon and sold as an A. All were sold as new and bought in a stock configuration. The first visually resembles the nib on my Lamy Safari. On the new batch of four the nib visually resembles a Pilot or similar. I'm a newbie so this is all guesswork based purely on failing eyesight and without any Pilots in my collection for a proper comparison, but there seems to be a variation in nibs shipped as stock on the 3008/3008A, which is interesting. They all seem to write flawlessly, whatever they are!
Do your Labitous dry up after a few days? Thanks
@@PolyMathWannaBe62 so timely is your question, as I’ve used two of the Lanbitou pens in my version of September’s 30 inks in 30 days. I hadn’t used either of them since last YEAR around this time! (I’d moved offices and a group of my pens were misplaced (or in the Alternate Universe: you choose!)
Still inked, when found, and though the FEEDS were dry, a twisting of the piston flooded them with (old) fresh ink ✍️ and we were off to the races!
I’m using them as accent colors in some of my research notes, and they’ve not failed me. Maybe I’m just fortunate. I’m here for that! Lololol
I'm just beginning to learn about pens from Wing Sung and Pen BBS. The only Chinese pens I own are 2 Jinhaos so I'm enjoying exploring this whole new world of pens. I'm sorry to hear about your friend who passed away. My condolences.
Hi gadgetstop321 - it is so much fun to explore pens! I've found these 3008s are fun for me even with the small tinkering projects that have come along with them. My very favorite Chinese pen is Jinhaao X750. Thank you - I miss her very much and I was blessed to learn a lot from her and enjoyed writing letters back and forth.
I have a 3008 and have never inked it. But I bought it before any of my Eco's. I admit as soon as I started using the Eco's, I never looked back!
Hi Sharon! I like the idea that with the cheaper pen like the 3008 - even some of the aggressive ink I wouldn't mind trying it one of those where I'd about lose it if I ruined a TWSBI. :)
A few thoughts. The 3008A with the Pilot style nib has a locking feature that helps to secure the filler knob if you continue to turn it clockwise once the piston is fully up, whereas the standard one does not. This comes in useful for those who post the pen, since the cap posts onto the filler knob & turning the posted cap actuates the piston. Lately there are a variety of supposed 3008s sold as Wing Sung but with different features, making me think Wing Sung might be licensing the design to other manufacturers. Some have a contoured tripod grip and some don't. Some have a smooth barrel and some (the ones I like most) have a kind of facetting to the barrel that feels nice in the hand. Check out the Wing Sung 3011 for an interesting variant with a Pilot style nib, tripod grip, locking filler knob but with dimensions and styling comparable to the Pilot 78G/78G+. The Wing Sung 3009 is interesting too, available in nibbed and brush pen variants. For the Lanbitou 3059 the biggest issue many have found is that the nib dries out terribly. The hack is to get a Jinhao 599 (available for a handful of loose pocket change), remove the inner cap liner and then fit it inside the Lanbitou cap. Result: a Frankentou 3599 with zero drying out or flow issues. Win!
Hi Graham -- oh wow this is interesting - I have not purchased any Chinese pens in almost a year I think so I've missed some of these developments! Now I'm eager to so some research. Also, my most enjoyable way to do that is to catch up with chrisrap52's videos!!!
That cap hack sounds amazing!!!! I have a bunch of those 599s around here. That will be a great project thank you so much!
@@ChrisSaenz13 Glad it was of interest and I agree about Chris with his amazing videos.
Oh Chris, thank you so much for the review! Your reviews are great, it is better than you think, they are very sincere and honest. I hope you keep doing it! I've already bought two 3008, now I'm waiting them to arrive here in Brazil! You are the best! Thank you so much!
Hi Gustavo - thank you! I hope you will enjoy your 3008s and that the wait won't be too long! These have been great daily writers for me!
Just got one of these guys. They are a true bargain.
I have one inked up right now and it has been since Oct. 30 (with KOBE #41) and it just amazes me the writing I am getting from it!!!! So glad you like yours!!!!
I have 3, with another on order. The first I really love, smooth, wet and fabulous. Unfortunately the other 2 just don’t flow at all. I haven’t tinkered properly, yet. I still may. I have high hopes for #4. Thanks for another great video. The taking apart, super helpful.
Hi Kaarin - good luck with #4 !!! I'm glad the take apart part was helpful -- the video I linked helps me so much that each time I need to do the full take apart I watch it!
Thanks for the great video. I have not inked my 3008 for over a year. You heve inspired me. I am going to ink it up again. ;-)
Hi Donna! Oh yes - do ink it up! :)
Great review, thank you. I only discovered this pen recently and now have five. The latch at the top can be a little temperamental but these are so cheap and - here in the UK at least - a replacement could be here the next working day. For something so cost-effective, you really can't go wrong. On a separate note, I was sorry to hear about your departed friend. It's obvious that you cared a lot for her and treasured her friendship. I have no doubt she felt the same.
Hi Graham - thank you! These are still some of my favorite pens! I have 2 clear ones and a pink and blue one now. I love how they can be easily taken apart to clean and grease too. :) Besides being very inexpensive!
@@ChrisSaenz13 Thanks for the reply. I'm very much a lazy person with appalling handwriting. I like pens that I can just throw in a box or bag, use and abuse. I doubt I'll be particularly gentle and loving with these (though I really should try). It seems these will be able to withstand a little rough treatment. One other thought. Unless you've latched the top, if you post these then any turns on the cap will actuate the piston and dump ink. I normally post my pens but on this model it may be best to avoid doing that. Otherwise a good all-round workhorse.
You and Chrisrap52 make such a good case for these Chinese pens. I have two PenBBS pens (neither of which writes) so I haven't ventured into the Wing Sung models. Great review, Chris. Thanks and Happy 4th!
Hi Donna -- Happy 4th!!!! I have yet to try any Pen BBS Pens. The Wing Sung's I really have had a positive experience with. OH that's such a bummer on your pens that won't write -- I've been there with a few pens myself & I know it's not a fun predicament to be in!!!! Sometimes it can turn out to be an ink issue or a nib issue that I can correct other times it's just as if the pen has a grudge.
Chris firstly let me say how sorry I am that you lost your friend very sincerely and respectfully.
Regarding the wing sung 3008 i have a couple and they are very good I find with the Lamy style nib, everything you said i agree with.
Thank you Matthew - I appreciate the thoughts about my friend. It was a big shock - she was in her early 40s and it was an aggressive cancer. I saved all her letters and it's amazing everything I had started to learn from her - she was very experienced with pens. I read her blog and she watched my videos. :) Oh yes the Wing Sung 3008 is a pen I'm super glad I took a chance on!!!!
@@ChrisSaenz13 Its so sad when someone so young is taken from this earthly plain especially when it's painful also.
Paint the screw with a bit of nail lacquer and it will seat fine and avoid corrosion. Regards from Ibiza.
Great idea!!! Thank you!
The Wing Sung 3008 is a good knock-a-round pen. I use several sets for drawing in waterproof inks in 3 inks and nibs.
Hi Christopher - I agree! I really love mine and somehow the fact they are not expensive just makes me enjoy them more I guess without worrying I'll ruin them!!!
Hi Chris, thanks for the thorough review. I have a Wing Sung 3008 too and really like it. I may have imagined it but I thought I saw a tiny spot of ink on the exterior one day. Maybe... Anyway, I disassembled it (very easy, as you show) and treated all the joints to a little smear of silicon grease, stocked to keep my eye droppers ink-tight. And, hey presto!, there's been no discernible ink egress since. Maybe I didn't need to but it can only help, is how I see it.
Hi Humboles -- I absolutely love my Wing Sung 3008s -- they write a lot more wet than my TWSBIs! Glad to hear you like yours too!! And having just taken apart my TWSBI Mini to grease the piston ... I wish it were as easy as the Wing Sung 3008. :)
I did the same with mines, they were leaking ink from the ring just above the nib. I particularly like the nibs better than Lamy as they are too wet and too broad for me. I then ordered a batch of no-branded replacements from AliExpress which were even better that I ended up changing all Lamys and Wing-Sung for them 😅 Regards
Thank you for your video and happy forth of July!
Hi James - Happy belated 4th of July!
I love my Wing Sung 3008, they are a superb writer. I agree with you on the comfort over Twsbi 580. I rarely use it because of the weight, even though it’s a wonderful writer. I have 4 Wing Sung and I enjoy italic or broader nibs, I have tried putting my Lamy nibs on them and they all fall down, they are loose. Did you alter your Lamy nibs to fit them? I would love to use a 1.1 stub nib on them.
Hi @UARELOVE1010 - I didn't alter my 3008s ... the Lamy nibs fit slightly loose on mine but I keep my eye on them and the only thing I make sure -- is to take them off before I clean the pen so that I don't lose the nib by accident in the sink! My 3008s are old and from maybe some of the first waves of them I think ... the later ones I got a few were too loose also like you described. Have you tried the Jinhao 80s? They are one of the pens I most like putting Lamy nibs onto. I did some reviews of how to do it too because those have the opposite issue: it's a bear getting the stock nib off and the Lamy nibs fit very tightly ... the pen body resembles the Lamy 2000/Lamy Studio but it is a cartridge converter pen!
Thanks Chris! That was quite an in-depth review of the Wing Sung 3008. I remember this was something of a revelation when it appeared; i.e. to get a piston-filling fountain pen at this price point. The 3008 is still fantastic value and can be found on eBay for less than the price of a coffee. What I like about the pen is how comfortable it feels in my hand. As far as dislikes; the piston knob seems to have too much play and feels a bit loose. Nevertheless it all works well and for the money you really can't do much better.
Hi David -- I really did mean to mention that piston knob feeling loose. I know it hasn't given me any real trouble but it is an annoyance. Overall I love this pen still after all this time! Many of my early cheap pen purchases stay in a drawer but not these!
I have the Wing Sung 3008 it’s a great pen. TFS
Hi Missy Pooh!!! :)
Nice review, tomorrow will arrive me 4 wing sung 3008 from amazon. I ordered a fine nib.... I get used to write with the lamy al star ef and the pilot metropolitan fine... in my case is to make notes for the college so I prefer to use the minimum amount of pages... so it’ s probably this fine nib won’t work for me...
Hi Fernando - I hope you enjoy the 3008s they are still among my favorites!!!!! I like putting the Lamy nibs on them too which makes them so versatile!!!
@@ChrisSaenz13 Thanks, I´m testing the wing sung pens... I filled the pens with faber castell pink (very cheap), Parker quink blue and lamy amazonite. I have problems with the pink and the parker Quink.... However the pen with the lamy amazonite works very nicely... Is it because the ink?? Do yo recomend me to clean the pens?? Other thing the nibs aren´t like lamy ... are like the metropolitan.. Thank you
The point of zinc plating is to discourage corrosion so those screws you bought should suffice. I understand from another pen-o-phile recently that newer stocks of the 3008 have a corrosion-resistant cap screw from new. Seems later variants also got a positive 'click' mechanism on the piston actuating knob, so it should get to the closed position and stay there (hopefully!)
Hi Humboles - thank you - oh these are encouraging updates about the 3008s. I really love these pens, they take down so easily with no tools for very thorough cleaning and I have had great results writing with them! Admittedly, I pop on Lamy nibs. LOL
Chris, have you seen the new Wing Sung, 3013 I think, vacuum fillers. They use the Pilot style nib and run in the $9-$15 range.
I have not seen that one yet! Thanks for mentioning it! I'm going to check it out also want to catch up watching chrisrap52s videos.
I got the Paili version of that which is dubbed Paili 013. They are very solid pens (I mean the acrylic, as it feels very hard on the hand) but prone to scratches and fingerprints. Even though, they are very nice writers, I just had to clean the slit as it was kind or dirty and filled with Iroshizuku Shin Kai and voilà !!!
great review. Looked around for current availability - found options on ebay but not lamy style nib - amazon seems to be sold out
Hi Margret - oh I hope you can find one. Is e-bay the same in the USA and UK? I don't know much about that. I hate the long wait when the pens come from China but the prices have been very good!
@@ChrisSaenz13 I expect there are different vendors on us v UK though many will be the same. Amazon also has us and UK versions. I've got toomanypens though so no rush !
i got a 3008 with a pilot style nib and i have to say theere is something funky going on with my nib it hard starts all the time but when it does write its a champ i am waiting for my loupe to come in the mail and then i can finally see whats going on i could get my phone to see whats going on but thats such a hastle with my new set up maybe ill show my pilot style nib :)
Hi Marilyn - - I'm curious now about the pilot style nib on the Wing Sung 3008 because I didn't realize they were making them. I'm behind on watching chrisrap52s videos he probably has covered that. Oh a loupe will help you a lot to see what's up with the nib. Hard starts are the pits. Good luck getting it to write consistently!
@@ChrisSaenz13 ill make a video on it tomorrow
Hi Chris! I bought my Wing Sung after watching this video. Thank you for showing me how to disassemble. I got two of them from China, one of them wrote so well but the other did not write at all. I tried to clean, change my inks, prime my feed but nothing worked. Is there anything else I can do?
Hi Vanilla -- oh gosh I'm sorry to hear one would not write at all that's depressing! The only other thing I know to try is putting a Lamy nib on it ... that has really been amazing with mine but there could be some defect I'm not aware of with the pen you got. I always suspect the nib first in any pen not writing situation ... however I don't have that many years experience and I don't know if maybe feeds can be defective? Do you have a Lamy nib you could try on the pen. If that works then it's most likely nib related and possible that some tuning will help it. I use brass shim material I buy at Goulet pens to open up nibs sometimes and I also use their micro-mesh -- I watch nib smoothing videos from The Pen Habit and from I think Troy LaPlante to learn more about how to do that.
@@ChrisSaenz13 Thank you Chris for the detailed explanation. I do not have a Lamy nib. I will try the other methods you had suggested. I have also contacted the seller. I love the other Wing Sung 3008 pen, it is fantastic.
I made a surprise discovery! I could fit my Jinhao x750 nib and feed in my Wing sung 3008. It is quite a wet writer!!
I had this model of the 3008 with a Lamy 1.1 nib on it and gave it away.!
I miss it. I ordered one again and it didn't have the Lamy type nib.
The original wing sung fine nib was great and it's on a Wing Sung 6359 now.
I am looking to buy the original 3008 if they are still available.
Hi Neil - I had found a seller on e-bay that I will order from if I get another one: chasewang. The pens will come from China so there will be a wait. The pictures show the Lamy style nib. Oh wow - I'd miss mine too if I gave it away! It is the kind of pen though that anyone can enjoy I think so I understand you wanting to share it with someone!!!!!
Thank you for the videos.
You're most welcome - thank you for watching & commenting!!!
I got one for even cheaper ($1.25) than the wing sung. It has a different clip but no brand on it. It is really good. The EF nib writes similar to my Pilot Kakuno nib. The nib varies line width a bit over time like the steel is not as hardened on the cheaper pen. Which is okay because of the price. I also can't figure out how to take the piston end off of it even after watching you do so. I don't want to break the pen so I will just leave it as it is. Mine posts but at first it was difficult and I didn't think it did.
I have been trying to figure out the grade of stainless steel that goes into modern pens and how they are hardened. I think it would make a good "how it's made" movie.
Hi tjojones -- wow you got a real bargain!!!! :)
Aloha Chris! The Wing Sung 3008 was one of my first pens and I found it to be quite a joy to use. At the time, I didn't know that it had a Lamy style nib, but later found out when I briefly tried a Lamy Vista (returned it as I had my doubts if it was authentic!) and was able to swap the Lamy medium for the Wing Sung fine nib. Everything worked fine with both pens. The only thing that bothers me on the Wing Sung 3008 is the loose knob on the piston filler. Is that normal? I hope it's much better on the TWSBI models such as the TWSBI Eco? Hope you had a wonderful 4th of July and my condolences to your pen friend. Mahalo, Thomas
Hi Thomas - yes that is true of my 3008s too the piston knob has some play - it's loose - whereas the TWSBIs - Ecos & 580s that is NOT the case. Sometimes I admit that makes me nervous but so far I've had no issues with it - and since I don't post it that's probably good. Happy 4th Thomas. And thank you - I miss my pen friend very much - she was so young (early 40s) and had an aggressive cancer that seemed to come out of nowhere. I have saved all her letters.
Really Really liked your review. If you can get hold of any hand made ebonite pen from Indian pen makers and review them.
Hi Tarvinder - interesting! I'll look into that - I have some pens from Fountain Pen Revolution but I don't think the feeds are hIndian and made - they are ebonite though.
Hi Chris, I'm not familiar with this pen but after watching your video I would consider buying it. Especially since I have a couple (maybe more) of Lamy nibs lying around, lol. Amazon did have them to buy, but how can you tell if their pens accept the Lamy or Pilot nibs? I really like pens that you can completely disassemble, and then easily put back together.
Do you know of any Demonstrator FPs that use an interchangeable #6 nib? Maybe one that is also an eyedropper converter pen?
I hope that you had a good 4th of July! I am so far behind in my video watching; don't know how I'm going to catch up on everything. Ginger
Hi Ginger! It was a nice 4th here!!! Oh I can relate - my "watch later" list in my You Tube Library is huge! Well, as far as demonstrator fountain pens using a #6 nib and able to be eyedroppered - have you considered a Noodler's Ahab clear? It comes with a Noodler's flex nib but I believe you can put a regular #6 nib in it. That's the one in a reasonable price range that I can think of. I'll give it some more thought......
My Watch Later list just keeps on growing, lol. Between you, chrisrap52, waskisquirrel, pens and tea, plus some travel vloggers I've got so much! I'm not complaining. There's always something to watch while working on my BuJo or eating lunch.
I've researched the Ahab quite extensively. Watched lots of videos, read reviews and decided that it wasn't for me because of its foul odor. My sense of smell became more sensitive after getting pleurisy a couple of years ago. If there was a way to get rid of the smell completely I would be buying at least a couple of their pens. I think the Noodler's pens are some of the prettiest pens, and their prices are wonderful. Glad you had a good 4th.
I am definitely on Team Wing Sing now.
Basically, wing sung 3008 appears to be copying the 580's and the ws 6359 mimics the lamy al star's. Not hating, just saying.
Like your channel. I subscribed!
Hi No: Six - welcome! Oh yes definitely some copying going on with the Chinese pens! In a few cases I wish it worked in reverse too! :)
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Yeah, like that piston locking mechanism.
HAPPY 4TH OF JULY
Thank you!!! Happy 4th to you as well!!!!
wish.com has them in a pilot style nib and aliexpress.com has them has them in the lamy style nib
Evening. Do you mind telling me if there is a locking mechanism for the piston twisting portion. My concern is that it would accidentally turn in my pocket and spill the ink somehow.
Hi Duhizy - I have noticed that it just has a little bit of "play" in it (the piston knob) but it has never accidentally spilled ink on me ... that being said, I don't ever post the pen. I have to be honest and say I don't really know if it has a locking mechanism or not. I will try to find out.