I appreciate hearing about the children in these cases, and what happened to them afterwards. It's always so tragic when they end up losing their parents like this.
I feel sad for Frankie, girls were married off so young and abuse was rampant. Who knows if she was actually the killer as she never received a fair trial.
“Who knows if she was the killer.” There’s no doubt that she was the killer. The blood in the cabin they shared, bones in the fireplace. The real question and only question is whether she killed him in self-defense. As you stated, women were abused quite often back then, and even while most of them lived with the abuse, there were changes in society at this time. Women were beginning to fight for equity and rights in both society and their home.
The district attorney-investigator suspected she was completely innocent, for many good reasons. But because she confessed to the crime he had no choice but to arrest & try her. (Frankie's cabin, where she lived with her husband, was half a mile from her parent's homestead. The D.A. believed she had run to her father for help the evening her husband threatened to shoot their crying baby. It was winter & cabin fever had made his violent drunken rage worse than usual. Her father & brother immediately went to her cabin to confront her husband. Whether his death was accidental or deliberate, don't recall. But they dismembered, burned & buried his remains. Afterwards, knowing both men would hang for the crime, leaving the family destitute without male providers, her Father told Frankie to take the fall for the murder. He convinced her that all would be fine - that a jury & judge would never hang a young girl who had a little baby to care for. Wrong. Her father gambled Frankie's life & lost. His last words to her meant, "Stay silent & save the family!" And she did. The proud but cold reality of pioneer mountain life in the 1830s.)
@@___LC___ True, there were no legal watchdogs or technical means for preventing or recording law abuse. Re Frankie's father, he did care about her. Otherwise he wouldn't have so brutally punished her husband. And he did help her escape jail. He was also correct about public sympathy, in that few wanted to see her hang. People knew their neighbors & that there was likely more to her story than selfish cold hearted murder. Unfortunately the deciding magistrate was a traveling judge, like the D.A., & unfamiliar with Frankie's community. Because crime was so low in this district. In the end, her decision to confess was a sacrifice to ensure the survival of Frankie's mother & younger siblings; her father & brother. The story is sickening but people sometimes had to be harshly practical. Esp if they were poor. Frankie probably understood this, even though she was just a kid.
Agreed. A great episode of Brief case, with the historical and social context to the time and location where the crime took place as well as the subjective prerequisites for the individuals involved.
You know some of those stories paint a really bad picture of them when their not I quit watching them, and Ms. Delong is getting way too deep in enjoyment in condemning them
@@cornbreadfedkirkpatrick9647 I view Ms Delong (of the Deadly Women panel) as the "I told you so" kind of person. Quite a contrast compared to the medical panelist.
Thanks BC, great video as usual, I love this channel! I find these older cases from the past so interesting, and your narration is especially wonderful to listen to, keep up the great work!😊💯👍🏼
The poor girl. The rough situation Frankie was in seemed to be tragically common back then - a speedy courtship leading to a marriage smattered with abuse and neglect, where the only way out is an impulsive and regrettable decision. I'd have rode her out of the state, too.
My my my how times have changed. This man waits until she leaves her house and he goes in and snopes around. He has the audacity to contact the sheriff and with a warrant they collect evidence. If this happened today, the whole case would be tossed out.
Back then, they had no safety net, either. You married an abusive a**? Oh well. That’s your problem. He’s your husband, and he basically can do what he wants to you.
Usually I agree with the verdict but I am not so sure this time. Back in those early days women were considered 2nd class. I can see some judge not caring about bowing to a woman. It was a good story, I liked it. I am glad we have come a long ways since then. Thanks again!
She could well have killed Charlie with a little help from her family but she did not deserve to be executed . Her husband was no choir boy and he was very much responsible for driving her to doing what she did .
Frankie Silver had a messed up life with her husband! Shame she couldn't have just left him! But in those days it probably wasn't so easy.... of course murder is always horrific, but in her case she should have been "let free" 😒
@@tralala9873 well said. Frankie was only 18 as well. What do any of us know about finding a life partner at 18? Poor girl was trapped. My grandma was trapped in a marriage with my abusive drunk grandfather. He could turn on the charm with strangers and others outside the home, but for us he was ugly and scary.
I live in Burke County NC where Frankie was hung and buried. I've been to her gravesite not far from Lake James. I went to school with Charlie's Silver's great great.... grandson
I believe it was for self defense, I would’ve done the same if my life was in danger. My grandfather introduced me to this story as it’s been passed down through generations and it’s neat in a way to see how known it is. As well as it’s neat to hear a bit about Nancy afterwards. Thank you! :)
A cracking narrative BC, thank you. (I saved this one until tonight's bubble bath) I was thoroughly engrossed and wasn't sure what was going to happen until she was hanged. What a sad and short life Frankie had. She must have felt desperate to kill her husband, and she probably felt alone in her relationship struggles. Perhaps she was sleep deprived as a new mother, and not thinking clearly. There's a new series on TV here in May called 'Look What You Made Me Do' about domestic violence. Women who kill their abusive husbands are only now being recognised as acting under duress, their sentences being reduced from 'life'. I wish that we had more details about Frankie, but women (& 18 yr olds) didn't have a voice then. The Brontes had to pretend they were men to be published as authors, just a little time after this. I appreciate how you explain the social context of the main players in your narratives. Great work!
Thank You, Brief Case, Excellent, as ALWAYS!🌟🌟🌟🌟🌟 This is so sad!! Frankie got railroaded!!! I believe she acted in self defense, and her Family helped her! She protected them, I feel. RIP FRANKIE!💔💔💔🙏🙏🙏Brief Case, I'm sending you 🤗🤗💚💚hugs! Everyone stay Safe! See you, same time, same place, Monday!!
This is a case of a young woman who was very badly treated by her husband and with a baby to look after I think his last threat pushed her over the edge. So that's why she retaliated sadly she didn't state how she had been treated when she was arrested as you say this could of saved her from the death penalty so young and sadly left her daughter without parents. Thank you until the next great story join the channel everyone more the merrier.
Wait! I heard about this case! I am of the mind that Frankie had not killed her husband or at the very least not alone. It was such a strange case, a small woman could very much kill a fully grown man if he was incapacitated already but she wouldn’t have been able to dispose of the body without some help. I say this but there was that elderly woman who killed and buried some of her tenants without much help. She had one tenant dig holes but evidence suggests she dumped the bodies alone.
It seems to me that a murder committed in winter and around Christmas time is the setting for a horror story. It is cold, but during the festivities of the holiday season, it goes unnoticed on the outside. Inside, however, a domestic disturbance became extremely violent. For a young woman like Frankie to be charged, convicted and hanged at 18, people must’ve speculated about the going’s on in the Silver home. I don’t know if Frankie had anyone to look after Nancy if she decided to go to work and bring some extra income to the house, even when it was encouraging for women to do so. I guess Charlie felt that Frankie should stay at home and take care of it because if Frankie got a job, it probably would’ve led to getting more knowledge and that, in Charlie’s mind, would probably mean that she would be more self reliant and would go on without him. Stay safe, my friend.😎
odd question but: how did they know that it was his bones and blood and not some animal? I mean in the winter time , without a man, she would have had to hunt for her own food.
Wow! That comment from her dad at her execution was very eerie. Seems like he was afraid she was going to implicate another family member to me. I feel sorry for her if it was self defense. Too bad she didn't just come clean. Thank you for this regular awesome start to my week, Mr. Case. 😉
I was thinking something similar. It might have been selfdefence, or something like manslaughter but instead of reporting it immediately, getting rid of evidence and trying to hide it had her in a less favourable position.
@@annabogumil4110 It might have been selfdefence but some other familymember came with a bad advice of trying to get rid of the body (and eventually evidence to her favour) instead of reporting it immediately?
These are all very interesting points. This case really got me thinking too! Frankie's father made that comment which definitely implies the involvement of other family member/s.. but I can't imagine a father letting his daughter take all the blame if other evidence might have saved her from the gallows. Did she really convince family member/s to help her murder Charlie? (It seems a mighty huge job for one young woman to do alone.. murdering, chopping up and burning the body! 🤔) Or was she really a battered wife (for which there is no hard evidence) - acted in self defence and possibly got others to help dispose of the body after the killing? I am convinced she had help in some way! So many theories abound, but whatever really happened inside the family cabin on that fateful night will always remain a mystery. A very messed up case.. and totally intriguing 😱
Afternoon BC and BC peeps, My feeling is it was probably self defence and her family disposed of the body, awful court proceedings but prob all were in 1800's. Poor little daughter, makes you wonder what she saw.
The father's comment at her hanging, certainly makes you wonder if her male family members had done the dirty deed & she paid the price for their guilt
@@tross8863 Interesting to hear that the present population of Morgantown , hold such a collective view on the case, so many years later, as the saying goes there's no smoke without fire & her stature would certainly not have been sufficient to overwhelm someone of her husband's size alone ! so she was either a part of the family doing the deed & complicit in the crime or innocent until after the fact & given up as the scapegoat to save their skin's society at the time being in favour of male rather than the female rule. Also woman were more prone to using poison during that period rather than butchery skills! I think she was an innocent not just because of her age but doubt that even in the heat of temper she would have been able to do the deed & afterwards plan the disposal of the corpse, definitely someone more life experienced had a hand in the matter!
OR, since the dead man's parents took custody of the child, there was some concern how they would treat her if Frankie had killed her husband to stop him hurting the child.
Well, Mister Rogers always said "wishing doesn't make it so", meaning that if it ever DID happen, it's not your fault for wishing it. I'm guessing prayer works similarly; you might have asked God, but it's His choice. Hope you've either found a more deserving man (or woman), or are reveling in your independence!
The LORD said to forgive so people like you and I can be forgiven. Not saying it was right to what he was doing to you. That was wrong. But does to wrongs? Make it right? I personelly found out it doesn't. Using self as the example. I hope you were able to move on in your life, and meet someone who would be true blue to you and each other. The marriage bed was defiled. As it were. I can understand. Been through that myself. On several occations. I Pray your life is now happy and joyful. Sincerely, me (-:
@John Hicks inappropriate. Wrong place. Want to get on your atheistic high horse, go start a blog. If you want to discuss the case, or leave a friendly comment, welcome to the community. If you're just going to be a troll (as you have been to this point), beat it, you aren't welcome.
I grew up in Morganton, NC and this story is a bit of a local legend these days. The old courthouse where the trial was held is still there too. Felt a bit nostalgic and went to see what about the legend was on RUclips. Did not disappoint.
I woud never thought that she will commit a horrendous crime on her husband 3 days before Christmas of 1831. Not to mention that her family was somehow involved in the murder. But I guess Frankie took her secret to the grave and that is why it is still being talked about today in North Carolina. So many assumptions as to what really happened to her husband, we will never know.
She would have struggled to move his dead body (they're heavy) and I wondered if that's why she dismembered him. I'm not sure that an 18 yr old woman would have had the stomach for such a grisly act. It'd be good to have more information.
Caroline R.....women back then were a different breed. She'd have had to gut, skin and de-bone animals that they hunted.....so I'm sure she could have done it to a human, no problem
I live in this area, BC (Mitchell County, North Carolina), and grew up hearing Frankie's story. Nice to see one of my favorite You Tubers covering it! 👍
I wonder why the judge overlooked that the evidence was found by someone who just walked into Frankie's house uninvited ( which we would call "breaking and entering" ).
That’s what I was thinking! I was wondering why the cop over looked it. Also why didn’t Charlie’s dad find all that when he went to his son’s house just a couple days after he disappeared?
I'm pretty sure that evidence obtained without a warrant is not allowed in court. He was not "invited" in and saw the evidence, nor was he a Peace Officer. So, to support your argument, why would the judge allow this evidence in court, let alone allowing the "witnesses" to speak to each other and get their "story" straight! Total miscarriage of justice!... Just my opinion...
_Hello everyone!_ 🙋🏻♀️💕 Frankie Silver.. (beautiful name) oh she was so young.. What a mess they made of the trial! I can't imagine this was anything but self defense. Charlie was an abusive man. Really enjoyed this fascinating but very sad tale.. thankyou so much BC💼 Hope you're enjoying your time off work 🤗
@@tross8863 Awww, I just adore the name, T 🤗 I used to want it to be my name as a kid as I loved the Frankie & Johnny song 🎵🎶😄 My sis named her cat Frankie but he's a boy.. I love it as a girl's name :)
Another fascinating case. Poor woman was probably acting in self defence against a drunken, brutish husband. Her dad's last words to her sound like the family knew the husband was violent and cruel, and others in her family were involved in the killing, and who could blame them?
I know the trial took place in Morganton, but sources I read sound like they lived nearer to Kona? There’s a pic online of part of the chimney of the cabin. It’s the only part of the home still standing. It looks like it’s out in the middle of the woods. I know this is odd, but I’d love to go see it.
We live around the border of Burke and Lincoln county. I normally play these videos for background noise while working, it snapped me to attention when i realized how close to home this was. The main Silver family home is still standing and habited and is under ongoing renovation. His pronunciation of Morganton got a chuckle out of me for sure.
Thank you for telling us what happened to her daughter afterwards. I always wonder what happen to the poor children who lose both their parents. I would like to think it was self defense but I think that her father, making her hide the truth, was wrong. These cases are always so sad because the murder is also a victim of the abuse they suffered and you wish there was a different outcome. So sad. Another great job BC. 👏
Excellent video thanks. Amazing how far American legal system has come. She couldnt testify on her behalf? That seems a bit odd. Nowadays the defendant absolutly makes that decision. Also what's with the towsperson essentially breaking and entering into her home? Any evidence, by todays standards, he found could be thrown out and possibly the entire case. Very interesting, thanks again.
It's too bad Frankie did not get as far away as fast as she could keeping up her disguise as a boy. She had a poor defense attorney it was stacked against her
She almost got away, but was caught at the border when a local Sheriff stopped them and asked her "is your name Frankie"? And her father, who must have been very stressed out, actually said "no sir *her* name is Johnny", thus blowing her cover. True story, sadly.
@@BriefCaseOfficial Absolutely great, thanks. And thanks again for treating us to these slices of history. They're all fabulous in that there are so many psychological layers. Sorry...I'm a libra. I have a tendency to see three sides of a coin. But that's why you are so intriguing. *sigh* stop me before I keep gushing
If only she'd had different defence! IMO, the father wanted her to take her secrets to the grave as he was probably involved in disposal of the body. Thanks for the info about her daughter, I always wonder what happens to the ones left behind. Kindest Wishes Xxx 🙏🏼 ❤️ 🍀 🗺️ 🏴
Unfortunately, Frankie is not the only minor who was executed in the United States. Two that readily come to mind are George Stinney (who was fourteen, and put to death in the electric chair in 1944) and Hannah Ocuish (who was 12, and hung in 1786).
Brilliantly narrated as always BC. A very sad case, I believe it was most likely self defense. I have to wonder how a petite woman like her could have done something like that(i guess it is possible) but I think she did have help from her family. Enjoy the rest of your week!
This story was on deadly women but, once again you always include details not told on deadly women.. Men who abuse their wives/girlfriends should have their hands chop off and eyes dig out then left to die..
Well BC, you’ve done it again! I’ve just found you before I do my exercise on my treadmill (neurologist’s orders!) and I’m so happy to say I’ve got you for company! 👍👍👍 cheers chum!!! 🥰 stay safe guys!
Thank you ! The Ballad of Frankie Silver(s) is a classic NC murder ballad, well worth checking out lyrics .. I am partial to Clarence Ashley's 1966 version 🙂
That happened to be a month ago (I wasn't hanged, just had problems posting my replies) I'm almost sure someone had reported me. The trouble went away in about 4 days
I read "The Ballad of Frankie Silver" a few years ago, it was written by Sharyn McCrumb. It tells the story that lead up to her hanging. In my opinion Frankie was wrongly convicted, her no account father allowed his daughter to be hanged to cover up his own sins. Get a copy of this book, you will not be disappointed. There are several books in The Ballad Series, I read them all, SM is an exceptional author!
@@lazyhomebody1356 Did you like the book? Have you read any of her other books in the ballad series? I highly recommend "The Hangman's Beautiful Daughter" & "The Rosewood Casket" both are from the series. Oh, we can't forget "The Ballad of Tom Dooley" Another good author is Sandra Dallas, "Prayers for Sale", "Alice's Tulips" and "The Diary of Mattie Spencer", the latter is my favorite by SD..
@@mangot589 Ah yes, I loved Miss Nora too. Nora Bonesteel's Christmas Past was the last book in The ballad Series, I believe, at least it was the last one I read. I have never found another series quiet as interesting & entertaining as this one. Vicki Lane is another good Appalachian fiction writer, I especially enjoyed "Signs in the blood" from her "Elizabeth Goodweather Appalachian Mysteries." So many good books, so little time. 🙂
@@Agapy8888 Hallo Lovely Person, kind wishes to you! Spring here but still cold ❄. Will make a video of flowers soon and put it up on my wee channel Xxx Blessed Be Xxx
I am a direct descendant of Charles and Frankie Silver and you are correct, Nancy was raised by the Stewart's. Nancy's second husband was Neil Robinson, where my side of the family comes from. Nancy lived the remainder of her life in Ellijay, Georgia, where she is buried. My great grandfather, Julius Robinson named all of his children after his half siblings ( the Parkers).
I live near Kona, NC. I've been to Charlie's grave site. He is buried in a small cemetery behind an old white wood frame church. The church sits on a hill overlooking a small valley once owned by Charlie's people. Charlie's grave is marked by three old headstones. Parts of Charlie's body were found in three locations. This gruesome discovery making the three, side by side, graves necessary. The view of the Appalachian mountains is breathtaking and a fitting place for Charlie's eternal rest. I attempted to find Frankie's gravesite. She is buried on private property located outside of Morganton, NC. I wasn't able to gain access to the property. Frankie's father and two of brothers were in Kentucky at the time Charlie was killed. Her Mother and younger brother were on their home place. Some folks, at the time and even still, believe Frankie killed Charlie in self defense. She then asked her Mother and brother to help her dispose of Charlie's remains. Sharyn McCrumb has brilliantly presented this sad and woeful tale in her novel The Ballad of Frankie Silver. An excellent read.
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Thank you BC but I don’t need skillshare ! I think frankies dad killed him and helped daughter chop him up
Where did you get the painting at 8:48? It's wonderful
that pencil sketch is really pretty
I appreciate hearing about the children in these cases, and what happened to them afterwards. It's always so tragic when they end up losing their parents like this.
My thoughts too.
I am a descendant and we did just fine, thanks.
Another set of young lives cut short, sadly - nice to have the follow up of Frankie's daughter, though.
I feel sad for Frankie, girls were married off so young and abuse was rampant. Who knows if she was actually the killer as she never received a fair trial.
“Who knows if she was the killer.” There’s no doubt that she was the killer. The blood in the cabin they shared, bones in the fireplace. The real question and only question is whether she killed him in self-defense. As you stated, women were abused quite often back then, and even while most of them lived with the abuse, there were changes in society at this time. Women were beginning to fight for equity and rights in both society and their home.
Sometimes the trial wasn't fair and they were executed anyway or they just disappeared and never seen or heard of again
The district attorney-investigator suspected she was completely innocent, for many good reasons. But because she confessed to the crime he had no choice but to arrest & try her. (Frankie's cabin, where she lived with her husband, was half a mile from her parent's homestead. The D.A. believed she had run to her father for help the evening her husband threatened to shoot their crying baby. It was winter & cabin fever had made his violent drunken rage worse than usual. Her father & brother immediately went to her cabin to confront her husband. Whether his death was accidental or deliberate, don't recall. But they dismembered, burned & buried his remains. Afterwards, knowing both men would hang for the crime, leaving the family destitute without male providers, her Father told Frankie to take the fall for the murder. He convinced her that all would be fine - that a jury & judge would never hang a young girl who had a little baby to care for. Wrong. Her father gambled Frankie's life & lost. His last words to her meant, "Stay silent & save the family!" And she did. The proud but cold reality of pioneer mountain life in the 1830s.)
@@elmerbefuddled2156 Yes, back then far more than today, people were pushed into a false confession through various means of torture and threats.
@@___LC___ True, there were no legal watchdogs or technical means for preventing or recording law abuse. Re Frankie's father, he did care about her. Otherwise he wouldn't have so brutally punished her husband. And he did help her escape jail. He was also correct about public sympathy, in that few wanted to see her hang. People knew their neighbors & that there was likely more to her story than selfish cold hearted murder. Unfortunately the deciding magistrate was a traveling judge, like the D.A., & unfamiliar with Frankie's community. Because crime was so low in this district. In the end, her decision to confess was a sacrifice to ensure the survival of Frankie's mother & younger siblings; her father & brother. The story is sickening but people sometimes had to be harshly practical. Esp if they were poor. Frankie probably understood this, even though she was just a kid.
Brief Case, thank you so much. Deadly Women did an episode on this story, but your version is better. Thank you. (Hi BC Fam!)
I saw that too. Her dad's words creeped me out.
Agreed. A great episode of Brief case, with the historical and social context to the time and location where the crime took place as well as the subjective prerequisites for the individuals involved.
I love that episode
You know some of those stories paint a really bad picture of them when their not I quit watching them, and Ms. Delong is getting way too deep in enjoyment in condemning them
@@cornbreadfedkirkpatrick9647 I view Ms Delong (of the Deadly Women panel) as the "I told you so" kind of person. Quite a contrast compared to the medical panelist.
Thanks BC!! Awesome as always!!
Hope everyone has a fantastic day!! Blessings & Love to All! 💕
Hi from sunny Greece on a break and hearing you , I will listen to it better at night at home but love to listen to you stay safe
Thanks You too
Thanks BC, great video as usual, I love this channel! I find these older cases from the past so interesting, and your narration is especially wonderful to listen to, keep up the great work!😊💯👍🏼
Thankyou
Another fine episode I've never heard of! Thank you!
Some real VINTAGE on this channel! I appreciate your work!
Thanks for listening
The poor girl. The rough situation Frankie was in seemed to be tragically common back then - a speedy courtship leading to a marriage smattered with abuse and neglect, where the only way out is an impulsive and regrettable decision. I'd have rode her out of the state, too.
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Love your storys, they are amazingly calming yet disturbing at the same time.
Thankyou
My my my how times have changed. This man waits until she leaves her house and he goes in and snopes around. He has the audacity to contact the sheriff and with a warrant they collect evidence. If this happened today, the whole case would be tossed out.
I know I maybe should not feel sorry for Frankie but I do. I know you cannot go around killing your spouse but she probably snapped.
She didn't kill him, it was just put on her..her dad was a coward and let her hang in his place
Back then, they had no safety net, either. You married an abusive a**? Oh well. That’s your problem. He’s your husband, and he basically can do what he wants to you.
I really enjoyed your picks for the scenes, absolutely beautiful, another great brief case. Excellent as always, keep them coming, thank you BC.🇨🇦🐘🍁🤗
Thankyou :)
Love knowing that on Monday I have your uploads to look forward to!
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@@BriefCaseOfficial Monday morning highlight!! Thank YOU for all the hard work and the videos!!! Have a great week .
Usually I agree with the verdict but I am not so sure this time. Back in those early days women were considered 2nd class. I can see some judge not caring about bowing to a woman. It was a good story, I liked it. I am glad we have come a long ways since then. Thanks again!
Great work again brief case, just in time for bedtime down under, thanks take care mate
Very awesome narration I enjoy your stories thank you for your hard work
Thankyou so much
Excellent video! Fascinating story.
Thanks for listening
@@BriefCaseOfficial always welcome.
A case from my home state? How cool! I'm stoked.
She could well have killed Charlie with a little help from her family but she did not deserve to be executed . Her husband was no choir boy and he was very much responsible for driving her to doing what she did .
I agree. You can't allow someone to ruin your life. It's the only one you get
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Thank U for doin this Case💙I've never heard about this one and being from North Carolina, it's interesting to learn about❤️ Excellent Work as Always🤘
Thankyou :)
The artwork is really beautiful in this. Did you do it? How do you plead?
No I did not do it, well not the drawings but most of the snow photos were my own :)
@@BriefCaseOfficial Really lovely.
Oh!!! I grew up in Burke County, NC. Never heard of this story
I live in Western NC and have considered moving to Morganton. I had no idea this happened here. These cases are so interesting (and sad).
Frankie Silver had a messed up life with her husband! Shame she couldn't have just left him! But in those days it probably wasn't so easy.... of course murder is always horrific, but in her case she should have been "let free" 😒
Divorce was near impossible and very very expensive and spousal abandonment was a crime. She would’ve been thrown in prison.
@@tralala9873 well said.
Frankie was only 18 as well. What do any of us know about finding a life partner at 18?
Poor girl was trapped.
My grandma was trapped in a marriage with my abusive drunk grandfather. He could turn on the charm with strangers and others outside the home, but for us he was ugly and scary.
Love the art 🎨 work.
Such a sad case.
Thanks
Good history information
I live in Burke County NC where Frankie was hung and buried. I've been to her gravesite not far from Lake James. I went to school with Charlie's Silver's great great.... grandson
Mann that ambient track that I first heard through lemmino is soooo good
Thanks, BC!
Ancher excellent story 🥰 love it.
Thankyou
I believe it was for self defense, I would’ve done the same if my life was in danger. My grandfather introduced me to this story as it’s been passed down through generations and it’s neat in a way to see how known it is. As well as it’s neat to hear a bit about Nancy afterwards. Thank you! :)
Such a sad story :(
A cracking narrative BC,
thank you.
(I saved this one until tonight's bubble bath)
I was thoroughly engrossed and wasn't sure what was going to happen until she was hanged.
What a sad and short life Frankie had.
She must have felt desperate to kill her husband, and she probably felt alone in her relationship struggles. Perhaps she was sleep deprived as a new mother, and not thinking clearly.
There's a new series on TV here in May called 'Look What You Made Me Do' about domestic violence. Women who kill their abusive husbands are only now being recognised as acting under duress, their sentences being reduced from 'life'.
I wish that we had more details about Frankie, but women (& 18 yr olds) didn't have a voice then.
The Brontes had to pretend they were men to be published as authors, just a little time after this.
I appreciate how you explain the social context of the main players in your narratives.
Great work!
Thankyou
My favorite story teller🤘🖤
Thankyou
What a story, and so long ago. Sleep on Charlie and Frankie. Sleep on.
Dang. I live 25 mins from Burke County
Thank You, Brief Case, Excellent, as ALWAYS!🌟🌟🌟🌟🌟 This is so sad!! Frankie got railroaded!!! I believe she acted in self defense, and her Family helped her! She protected them, I feel. RIP FRANKIE!💔💔💔🙏🙏🙏Brief Case, I'm sending you 🤗🤗💚💚hugs! Everyone stay Safe! See you, same time, same place, Monday!!
Poor Frankie...
That was great Brief Case, I have never heard of that case🇨🇮🧚♂️☘
It was a recommendation from a subscriber who lives very close to Kona :)
Missed you greatly, brother! How have you been?
Haven't been anywhere, 12pm UK time every monday :)
I live here in North Carolina and never heard of this. Also I have never of the county that her daughter died in either.
This is a case of a young woman who was very badly treated by her husband and with a baby to look after I think his last threat pushed her over the edge. So that's why she retaliated sadly she didn't state how she had been treated when she was arrested as you say this could of saved her from the death penalty so young and sadly left her daughter without parents. Thank you until the next great story join the channel everyone more the merrier.
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Wait! I heard about this case! I am of the mind that Frankie had not killed her husband or at the very least not alone. It was such a strange case, a small woman could very much kill a fully grown man if he was incapacitated already but she wouldn’t have been able to dispose of the body without some help. I say this but there was that elderly woman who killed and buried some of her tenants without much help. She had one tenant dig holes but evidence suggests she dumped the bodies alone.
Murder is murder and she got what she deserved no matter how sad it is. Thank you. And like
It seems to me that a murder committed in winter and around Christmas time is the setting for a horror story. It is cold, but during the festivities of the holiday season, it goes unnoticed on the outside. Inside, however, a domestic disturbance became extremely violent. For a young woman like Frankie to be charged, convicted and hanged at 18, people must’ve speculated about the going’s on in the Silver home.
I don’t know if Frankie had anyone to look after Nancy if she decided to go to work and bring some extra income to the house, even when it was encouraging for women to do so.
I guess Charlie felt that Frankie should stay at home and take care of it because if Frankie got a job, it probably would’ve led to getting more knowledge and that, in Charlie’s mind, would probably mean that she would be more self reliant and would go on without him.
Stay safe, my friend.😎
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So sad. Two lives gone and a child orphaned bcs of the scourge of abuse.
odd question but: how did they know that it was his bones and blood and not some animal? I mean in the winter time , without a man, she would have had to hunt for her own food.
So terribly sad, and what a gruesome job that dismemberment and burning was,...... bleaccchhhhhhhhhhh
I enjoy the stories but absolutely hate the mid-story advertising.
Sorry, I do noy have channel membership or Patreon so I do need need some financial income to keep the channel going
Ya know BC you're the only one who's ever got me to Like Mondays lol
I needed this right now! I couldn’t find an episode I hadn’t listened to - I love these for bed 🥰
Thanks for watching :)
What do u mean bed you goober, i just woke up??
I always find these type of comments funny. You're basically saying "Your content is so boring it helps me fall asleep, thank you!" 😁
Thank you for saying "hanged". Pictures are hung, people are hanged. Great episode as always.
@@disco4535 it’s comforting😂
Wow! That comment from her dad at her execution was very eerie. Seems like he was afraid she was going to implicate another family member to me. I feel sorry for her if it was self defense. Too bad she didn't just come clean. Thank you for this regular awesome start to my week, Mr. Case. 😉
I think it's Brief; Mr. Case would be his father! 🤣 Have a great day! 😃
But if there was another family member, then I think it is not self defense.
I was thinking something similar. It might have been selfdefence, or something like manslaughter but instead of reporting it immediately, getting rid of evidence and trying to hide it had her in a less favourable position.
@@annabogumil4110 It might have been selfdefence but some other familymember came with a bad advice of trying to get rid of the body (and eventually evidence to her favour) instead of reporting it immediately?
These are all very interesting points. This case really got me thinking too! Frankie's father made that comment which definitely implies the involvement of other family member/s.. but I can't imagine a father letting his daughter take all the blame if other evidence might have saved her from the gallows.
Did she really convince family member/s to help her murder Charlie? (It seems a mighty huge job for one young woman to do alone.. murdering, chopping up and burning the body! 🤔)
Or was she really a battered wife (for which there is no hard evidence) - acted in self defence and possibly got others to help dispose of the body after the killing? I am convinced she had help in some way!
So many theories abound, but whatever really happened inside the family cabin on that fateful night will always remain a mystery. A very messed up case.. and totally intriguing 😱
Afternoon BC and BC peeps, My feeling is it was probably self defence and her family disposed of the body, awful court proceedings but prob all were in 1800's. Poor little daughter, makes you wonder what she saw.
I really like the wintery and rustic atmosphere of this cold case
Thankyou :)
I just turned my heat back on.
The father's comment at her hanging, certainly makes you wonder if her male family members had done the dirty deed & she paid the price for their guilt
That's what the majority of us here in Morganton believe..
@@tross8863 Interesting to hear that the present population of Morgantown , hold such a collective view on the case, so many years later, as the saying goes there's no smoke without fire & her stature would certainly not have been sufficient to overwhelm someone of her husband's size alone ! so she was either a part of the family doing the deed & complicit in the crime or innocent until after the fact & given up as the scapegoat to save their skin's society at the time being in favour of male rather than the female rule. Also woman were more prone to using poison during that period rather than butchery skills! I think she was an innocent not just because of her age but doubt that even in the heat of temper she would have been able to do the deed & afterwards plan the disposal of the corpse, definitely someone more life experienced had a hand in the matter!
OR, since the dead man's parents took custody of the child, there was some concern how they would treat her if Frankie had killed her husband to stop him hurting the child.
Anyone else think hanging is barbaric?
@@susanmccormick6022 There's no kindly way to execute a person. Maybe the cup of hemlock gives the condemned a little sense of control.
When my ex abusive husband used to go "camping by himself" (visiting his mistress) I used to pray he would drive over a cliff. #jacobcash
I helped my eldest daughter empty the bank and the house to move to my country house.
Well, Mister Rogers always said "wishing doesn't make it so", meaning that if it ever DID happen, it's not your fault for wishing it. I'm guessing prayer works similarly; you might have asked God, but it's His choice. Hope you've either found a more deserving man (or woman), or are reveling in your independence!
damn, glad you ended the relationship
The LORD said to forgive so people like you and I can be forgiven. Not saying it was right to what he was doing to you. That was wrong. But does to wrongs? Make it right? I personelly found out it doesn't. Using self as the example. I hope you were able to move on in your life, and meet someone who would be true blue to you and each other. The marriage bed was defiled. As it were. I can understand. Been through that myself. On several occations. I Pray your life is now happy and joyful. Sincerely, me (-:
@John Hicks inappropriate. Wrong place. Want to get on your atheistic high horse, go start a blog. If you want to discuss the case, or leave a friendly comment, welcome to the community. If you're just going to be a troll (as you have been to this point), beat it, you aren't welcome.
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I grew up in Morganton, NC and this story is a bit of a local legend these days. The old courthouse where the trial was held is still there too.
Felt a bit nostalgic and went to see what about the legend was on RUclips. Did not disappoint.
I’m from Morganton as well. I have never heard of this story.
I woud never thought that she will commit a horrendous crime on her husband 3 days before Christmas of 1831. Not to mention that her family was somehow involved in the murder. But I guess Frankie took her secret to the grave and that is why it is still being talked about today in North Carolina. So many assumptions as to what really happened to her husband, we will never know.
This definitely sounds like she had help. Most likely the family. Sad they let her take the fall.
She would have struggled to move his dead body (they're heavy) and I wondered if that's why she dismembered him. I'm not sure that an 18 yr old woman would have had the stomach for such a grisly act.
It'd be good to have more information.
Caroline R.....women back then were a different breed. She'd have had to gut, skin and de-bone animals that they hunted.....so I'm sure she could have done it to a human, no problem
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I live in this area, BC (Mitchell County, North Carolina), and grew up hearing Frankie's story. Nice to see one of my favorite You Tubers covering it! 👍
Thanks Deniese, I hope I did OK, It was a recommendation from a subscriber who lives very close to Kona :)
I wonder why the judge overlooked that the evidence was found by someone who just walked into Frankie's house uninvited ( which we would call "breaking and entering" ).
That’s what I was thinking! I was wondering why the cop over looked it. Also why didn’t Charlie’s dad find all that when he went to his son’s house just a couple days after he disappeared?
I'm pretty sure that evidence obtained without a warrant is not allowed in court. He was not "invited" in and saw the evidence, nor was he a Peace Officer. So, to support your argument, why would the judge allow this evidence in court, let alone allowing the "witnesses" to speak to each other and get their "story" straight! Total miscarriage of justice!... Just my opinion...
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Frankie Silver.. (beautiful name) oh she was so young.. What a mess they made of the trial! I can't imagine this was anything but self defense. Charlie was an abusive man. Really enjoyed this fascinating but very sad tale.. thankyou so much BC💼 Hope you're enjoying your time off work 🤗
I am - Thankyou :)
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Frankie was my grandmother's name 😊
@@tross8863 Awww, I just adore the name, T 🤗 I used to want it to be my name as a kid as I loved the Frankie & Johnny song 🎵🎶😄 My sis named her cat Frankie but he's a boy.. I love it as a girl's name :)
Another fascinating case. Poor woman was probably acting in self defence against a drunken, brutish husband. Her dad's last words to her sound like the family knew the husband was violent and cruel, and others in her family were involved in the killing, and who could blame them?
The dad's last words to her sounds to me that he was telling her to not mention her family. An obvious implication of their involvement.
I think they helped her dispose of the body, I believe her story.
It's rare to get a Brief Case video that takes place in your hometown. xD
Yes, exactly I live in Morganton too. Have all my life..
I know the trial took place in Morganton, but sources I read sound like they lived nearer to Kona? There’s a pic online of part of the chimney of the cabin. It’s the only part of the home still standing. It looks like it’s out in the middle of the woods. I know this is odd, but I’d love to go see it.
We live around the border of Burke and Lincoln county. I normally play these videos for background noise while working, it snapped me to attention when i realized how close to home this was. The main Silver family home is still standing and habited and is under ongoing renovation. His pronunciation of Morganton got a chuckle out of me for sure.
Lived in Morganton most of my life as well. I was always told Frankie Silver was a relative, like a long line of cousins.
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Thank you for telling us what happened to her daughter afterwards. I always wonder what happen to the poor children who lose both their parents. I would like to think it was self defense but I think that her father, making her hide the truth, was wrong. These cases are always so sad because the murder is also a victim of the abuse they suffered and you wish there was a different outcome. So sad. Another great job BC. 👏
Excellent video thanks. Amazing how far American legal system has come. She couldnt testify on her behalf? That seems a bit odd. Nowadays the defendant absolutly makes that decision.
Also what's with the towsperson essentially breaking and entering into her home? Any evidence, by todays standards, he found could be thrown out and possibly the entire case.
Very interesting, thanks again.
Always surprises me how many axe murders there were
Back when people heated their houses with wood, there were lots of axes around They are great weapons, long reach, heavy and intimidating.
"Sorry, Charlie." -- Starkist Tuna
That is so messed up but funny 🤦♀️
Lol
Only the best tasting tuna get to be Starkist
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It's too bad Frankie did not get as far away as fast as she could keeping up her disguise as a boy. She had a poor defense attorney it was stacked against her
She almost got away, but was caught at the border when a local Sheriff stopped them and asked her "is your name Frankie"? And her father, who must have been very stressed out, actually said "no sir *her* name is Johnny", thus blowing her cover. True story, sadly.
Bravo. You make my insomnia worthwhile. 🙃
Hope you are OK
@@BriefCaseOfficial Absolutely great, thanks. And thanks again for treating us to these slices of history. They're all fabulous in that there are so many psychological layers. Sorry...I'm a libra. I have a tendency to see three sides of a coin. But that's why you are so intriguing.
*sigh* stop me before I keep gushing
If only she'd had different defence! IMO, the father wanted her to take her secrets to the grave as he was probably involved in disposal of the body.
Thanks for the info about her daughter, I always wonder what happens to the ones left behind.
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Unfortunately, Frankie is not the only minor who was executed in the United States. Two that readily come to mind are George Stinney (who was fourteen, and put to death in the electric chair in 1944) and Hannah Ocuish (who was 12, and hung in 1786).
Brilliantly narrated as always BC. A very sad case, I believe it was most likely self defense. I have to wonder how a petite woman like her could have done something like that(i guess it is possible) but I think she did have help from her family. Enjoy the rest of your week!
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This story was on deadly women but, once again you always include details not told on deadly women.. Men who abuse their wives/girlfriends should have their hands chop off and eyes dig out then left to die..
Well BC, you’ve done it again! I’ve just found you before I do my exercise on my treadmill (neurologist’s orders!) and I’m so happy to say I’ve got you for company! 👍👍👍 cheers chum!!! 🥰 stay safe guys!
Enjoy the exercise :)
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Thank you ! The Ballad of Frankie Silver(s) is a classic NC murder ballad, well worth checking out lyrics .. I am partial to Clarence Ashley's 1966 version 🙂
Not gonna lie, these 1800s women knew how to dress.
Ikr
Yeah they knew how to dress uncomfortably all right.
@@nameirrelevant387 They knew how to be women, all right.
So glad I finished my homework early. Now I can have breakfast with brief case 😊
BC , Thank you for saying "hanged" , pictures are hung /people are hanged. Having trouble posting comment and that spooks me. 😮
Thanks Darrell, I must confess in one of my first videos I said hung and was kindly corrected and have used hanged ever since
That happened to be a month ago (I wasn't hanged, just had problems posting my replies) I'm almost sure someone had reported me. The trouble went away in about 4 days
I read "The Ballad of Frankie Silver" a few years ago, it was written by Sharyn McCrumb. It tells the story that lead up to her hanging. In my opinion Frankie was wrongly convicted, her no account father allowed his daughter to be hanged to cover up his own sins. Get a copy of this book, you will not be disappointed. There are several books in The Ballad Series, I read them all, SM is an exceptional author!
Thanks
So that's why the name seemed familiar! I've read it
@@lazyhomebody1356 Did you like the book? Have you read any of her other books in the ballad series? I highly recommend "The Hangman's Beautiful Daughter" & "The Rosewood Casket" both are from the series. Oh, we can't forget "The Ballad of Tom Dooley" Another good author is Sandra Dallas, "Prayers for Sale", "Alice's Tulips" and "The Diary of Mattie Spencer", the latter is my favorite by SD..
Those are really excellent books! I’ve read them all too. I especially love her Nora Bonesteel series.
@@mangot589 Ah yes, I loved Miss Nora too. Nora Bonesteel's Christmas Past was the last book in The ballad Series, I believe, at least it was the last one I read. I have never found another series quiet as interesting & entertaining as this one. Vicki Lane is another good Appalachian fiction writer, I especially enjoyed "Signs in the blood" from her "Elizabeth Goodweather Appalachian Mysteries." So many good books, so little time. 🙂
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So sad, some men just lose integrity, and a victim emerges from it...
Is that victim blaming? .....cancelled!
@@grantwatt4559 ? it means the man was beating her, so she had to retaliate...
Just looked up Nancy Silver. I see it was her maternal grandparents who reared her. That wasn't clear. Good case, though. Poor Frankie.
Huh? Maybe they took her in after a while. As far as I know, his parents took her after the execution.
I am a direct descendant of Charles and Frankie Silver and you are correct, Nancy was raised by the Stewart's. Nancy's second husband was Neil Robinson, where my side of the family comes from. Nancy lived the remainder of her life in Ellijay, Georgia, where she is buried. My great grandfather, Julius Robinson named all of his children after his half siblings ( the Parkers).
@@pamelawrenn8664 Thank you for that information.
I live near Kona, NC. I've been to Charlie's grave site. He is buried in a small cemetery behind an old white wood frame church. The church sits on a hill overlooking a small valley once owned by Charlie's people. Charlie's grave is marked by three old headstones. Parts of Charlie's body were found in three locations. This gruesome discovery making the three, side by side, graves necessary. The view of the Appalachian mountains is breathtaking and a fitting place for Charlie's eternal rest.
I attempted to find Frankie's gravesite. She is buried on private property located outside of Morganton, NC. I wasn't able to gain access to the property.
Frankie's father and two of brothers were in Kentucky at the time Charlie was killed. Her Mother and younger brother were on their home place. Some folks, at the time and even still, believe Frankie killed Charlie in self defense. She then asked her Mother and brother to help her dispose of Charlie's remains.
Sharyn McCrumb has brilliantly presented this sad and woeful tale in her novel The Ballad of Frankie Silver. An excellent read.
Excellent information - Thankyou
Thanks for giving us a little more information Terry. It's such an interesting story.
Yes! I've read it and agree.. In fact I have enjoyed all of the books by Ms. McCrumb that I've read or listened to. 👍😎
I think she killed him in self defence, and maybe her family helped her with the body.🌺