Milwaukee M12 Gen 2 FUEL Hammer Drill Review
HTML-код
- Опубликовано: 20 янв 2018
- Home Depot: homedepot.sjv.io/1MQR9
ACME Tools: shrsl.com/10k9x
Milwaukee shaved a ton of length and some weight off of the new M12 Gen 2 hammer drill, while maintaining the same 350 in-lbs of torque and max RPM of 1,700. Even with identical specs on paper, the Gen 2 feels more powerful. 
Наука
I got one of these drills and a kit and I didn't think much of it. Now after owning it for a few months it is a favorite. I even sleep with it it's so comforting
🤣
Lol you make me wna go buy that kit now it's only 229 with free tool right now I can return tool and keep kit ? Well they give me money or store credit back ?
If Home Depot lists them as separate SKUs on the receipt, then you can return one item and keep the other. They'll give you money back if you have your receipt, and will prorate the return to reflect the discount. So if the kit was $229 and you got a free $99 bare tool, they'll give you $69 back for the return of the bonus tool.
I am a low voltage technician and i use this drill gen 2 and the impact driver everyday and they get the job done no problem, love them. People get impressed when they see its a 12v drill hammer drilling haha !
The thorough comparison between generations 1 and 2, of Milwaukee’s FUEL hammer-drill, is highly appreciated. Good job, Doresoom Reviews.
I work at Home Depot and found the gen 1 12v with the two batteries in one of our clearance bays for $90. Had to wait until lunch to buy it and thank god nobody got it before me. It is a fantastic drill!
You cant buy things while you're at work? Or set them aside for later? Seems like Home Depot still gets the money, why does it matter if an employee or a customer buys it
I got my gen 1's 2 speed impact 12 v and h-drill 4 the price of $99.99 hard case 2-4.0 Ah batteries charger and not on clearance but in-place of 2 brushed 1's with bag and charger because my Ace hardware did not have the brushed in the store.
Got Europe version made in china - 135 euros
@@dizzy4303 it's pretty standard to not be able to buy things on company time at retail stores. If you're on the clock, they're paying you to be working not doing personal shopping. But I understand what you mean...I used to buy stuff on the clock at Best Buy all the time while there were no customers needing help 🤷♂️
It’s nice but 3/8 Chuck, I hope that won’t affect me body work
Great video! Used multiple uses, and over uses for the drill. Gotta see what's the max strength and regular strength of the drill. Thanks man! Most videos ONLY show drilling holes in wood.
Build quality seems great. I use a Dewalt gyroscopic screwdriver for low duty work and this Milwaukee for mid duty work and this works amazing for all server construction needs
Think this showing has pushed me towards starting an M12 setup. For me it was between the M12 Fuel drill and impact driver kit and Makita's subcompact 18v setup to get me started, but honestly within the Milwaukee M12 line, there are so many other tools that I would actually use that take the same batteries that aren't available in Makita's 18v LXT line and I don't think I really need 18v for what I do. There's a Dremel-style rotary tool (that works with Dremel accessories and outpowers any cordless Dremel), a freaking 12v soldering iron, a nice and compact oscillating multitool, a bunch of work lights and lamps, and one of my favorites being the 2nd gen of the USB power source which can now charge M12 batteries though USB as well as charge other devices like cell phones and power the M12 heated clothing. Milwaukee seems to understand that not everyone wants just miniaturized versions of larger 18v tools. There is some crossover where it makes sense like drills and drivers, the hakzall/sawzall, jigsaws and such, but I like that they have diversified their 12v line into its own thing to take advantage of how much smaller the batteries are and therefore the tools that run off of it can be. Can get a kit with the M12 Fuel non-hammer drill (I don't work with masonry) and impact driver, both look like the 2nd gen versions, with one 2ah compact battery, and one 4ah XC battery, bag, and charger for just north of $200 with employee discount at the hardware store I work at. Think I will pull the trigger on that soon.
Thank you for showing us the uses and power of the Milwaukee gen 2 m12 tools
I drilled some half inch holes with my gen 1 fuel once. Did a 1/4 pilot hole first and then the 1/2. Not ideal for regular use doing that, but for only every now and then and all the normal stuff i do with it, its been awesome for 3 years so far
Great overview! I recently picked one up without realizing it was a new model, I like the more compact size and good to see it's got some performance improvements.
I've got the m12 fuel 2nd gen and my boss and I had a competition between my m12 and his 18v xrp hammer drill. Both had 5/36nd bit at the same length and mine was faster.
I’m getting this Black Friday with impact at Home Depot for $169 I’m excited for this
That's a killer deal!
I wish I had a need for this seems nice but for small stuff I like my b&d 8 volt impact driver.
I am slowly adding more 12v tools to my to my everyday tool box......this is a win win for Milwaukee as well as the end user....good review brother
Thanks! The $99 Gen 1 kit with Packout deal is coming back this Christmas too!
Great review. Quality video. Thank you!
In 30 years as a tradesman I have barely ever used the clutch settings on drill/drivers. As long as the tool has a decent quality variable speed trigger and you have a modicum of control over your finger you don’t need it.
I've been in construction just as long and use the clutch settings every so often, usually when I don't want to drive a fastener too deep or drilling with a hole saw or paddle bit and want to take a little stress off the drill.
same but I like the clutch for certain fasteners especially when doing pocket screws.
Good for tapping holes
Clutch is indispensable for tapping, and for saving breaking your wrist with larger hole saws on a smaller drill that has no side handle. But it must be mechanical; the electronic clutch on this gen 2 is useless. It's a brake not a clutch ; not responsive enough to instantly divert torque ..
Best video I’ve saw on this drill
The audio on this video is really good
Thanks for these reviews! This and the impact one. Very good reviews!
Hour and a half later, I now own the impact driver and hammer drill combo...
LOL, good choice! It's a great combo kit!
Hey,
Great video. Thanks for sharing. Gonna check out your gen2 m12 impact vid.
Great revue!
Got it super fast! So far so good!
Thx for the demo
Just bought this tool from the home dumpot. One bill, for tool, 2.0 battery, bag, and charger. It has eluded me for a whole year. It and the 3/8 stubby, the right angle die grinder, and maybe the cut-off tool. It drills 1/4” holes in masonry and cement before quick can even get ready. At this point it’s the last of my m12 tools on my wish list and the most satisfying other than the multitool, which I haven’t even used yet. I say that it doesn’t beat the multitool because I use my dewalt multitool all the time under sinks and on closet flanges at work, but I’m yet to use my m12 for my own sidework. But I already know it’s gonna kill it.
They got the drill driver kit with m12 osc tool for $200 right now. Im about to buy it because its too good of a deal not to... Already have m18 drill + driver but they're pretty heavy and i only need their full power occasionally.
Nice review, thanks.
I was most interested in how this would do in concrete, and now I have my answer. Time to upgrade from my dewalt 20v XR kit to the m12 fuel. As a fiber tech I don’t need the extra weight or power.
Most m12 tools outperform the m18 and 20xr stuff
@@CalebsCars not Fuel versions lol
@@Tre16 yea they do. The impacts don’t per say but the m12 stuff has been much more reliable for me than any m18. Especially for drills and hex impacts. Not the high torque but the m12 stubby has done me no wrong
@@CalebsCars doing no wrong is not outperforming though. Any M18 fuel version of these are much more powerful. That being said, if my M12 Fuel kit can't do the job, my company better supply the tool because these lil guys are work horses. But they have limitations.
Great comparison and demonstration
Update: I just ordered the #2598-22 kit, plus a free tool (#2457-20, 3/8" ratchet) for $244 after tax.
It all started when I saw the m12 fuel hammer drill kit that I've been wanting for $100... Great sales going on. Honestly, thats the only time I buy Milwaukee. If youre already on the platform like myself its a no brainer. A 2+4aH battery and charger normally costs $130.
Now consider I paid $100 on top of that and got a tool bag (NBD), the M12 fuel hammer drill, fuel driver, and a 3/8" ratchet. All of which are about $130 EACH "tool only". C'mon Bruh... Itd be stupid not to buy it. I honestly only wanted the drill and batteries, but ill probably keep the driver and try to sell the ratchet and that annoying m12 charger. I already have two that I dont need.
I have the M18 Fuel hammer drill/driver, however I've found that the drill is pretty cumbersome. I specifically chose them for the power, didnt consider the weight very seriously, "hey its only 4.8lbs"...
M18 is great dont get me wrong, the main reason I got the drill was its ability to bore large forstners and hole saws. However! The other 99% of the time when im just drilling small holes, its mildly inconvenient lol.
I also have to say with my intermittent use mainly drilling 1/4" or smaller holes, my 5aH battery lasts me literal weeks. No joke. If youre doing high demand stuff, yes you can drain it fast. If you arent giving it full send all the time it should last you plenty of time.
I'm excited to get my hands on the m12, Im pretty sure im going to love it, and on the rare occasion I need to bore a bunch of holes ill pull out the m18. Kinda sad to leave it on the shelf but hey, it was cheaper than a drill press.
The gen 1 to me seemed a better driller. With 1/8- 1/2” twist drill seemed smoother and turns more straight doesn’t wobble. And to me it seems more powerful too. Can feel the torque more in gen 1 then gen 2
I got both gen 2 the impact and the hammer drill and a charger with a 2.0 and a 4.0 for 179.00 I’m happy for waiting for a sale.
Does the Gen 2 kit come with the plastic case, or a bag? I really like the rigid case vs the bags in general. The Gen 1 seems to still be in a case and that was one of the reasons I was looking at the Milwaukee. Nice review!
The Gen 2 individual tool kits come with a plastic case. The kit with the impact driver and drill come with a soft bag.
I have one ordered i was looking at the cheap walmart drills for around 60 bucks i just got the fuel m12 hammer drill on discount for around that bare tool since i have the cordless ratchet
Just got the m12 hammer/impact combo with the 4.0 & 2.0 at Home Depot with a free m12 ratchet tool, well worth it. Got it for $229.
I now have (2) 4.0 and (2) 2.0 batteries. I have the m12 chainsaw as well with a 4.0 and will add on more and more. Love these tools.
That's a killer deal!
Just bought the kit off Amazon. Happy that it comes with batteries so I can buy a bare tool ratchet soon
Loc Luke, did you get your ratchet yet? I decided to get the Fuel 1/2” ratchet. I also got an adapter kit, so I can attach both 3/8” and 1/4 sockets. Decided to go this route for the higher torque value offered in the 1/2” ratchet.
@@martylucas8557 I picked up the 3/8s a year ago yup. Love it! I'm sure that 1/2 will do you well!
Loc Luke, I keep thinking...how did I ever get by without this tool! I was putting a new sink in my Daughter and Son in Law’s house last week. The freakin sink had 10 clips, with a really thin 2.5” threaded bolt and a small nut. I put a 3/8” deep socket and 4” extension on the Fuel Ratchet. I’m not saying it wasn’t with challenges, but what might’ve been a 2 - 3 hour job was cut down to less than an hour. Amazing tool!
Hi,
Does the M12 Gen 2 will be good for wood working with 2" plywood or other hard wood?
Thanks!
# Milwaukee take note side handel option for your next gen or come my way one that would fit fit the gen 2 model just idea I'm really impressed this blows away my Makita set 18v lx all whit brushed metal 10 years only replace the battery three times
Great video seem your the first one to see the improvement with the electronic clutch....great !!
Thanks! Yeah, I'm kind of surprised they didn't advertise that clutch feature. It took me a while using the drill before I figured out exactly what was going on.
Great video. Mine on low torque significantly reduce speed and never reach full rpm. Is it ok?
Thanks a lot for the review. Now my mind is clear about the drill.
positive or negative?
@@rokmarkan5396 totally positive
tnx
9:20 My opinion those holesaw's in general are bad compared to normal bi-metal holesaws for wood and metal.
Yeah, I'm not a huge fan of the hole saw designs that only have a few teeth either, but it was the biggest diameter one I had lying around to test max torque with.
Perfectly balanced. Like all things should be.
This is very impressive. Perfect for the automotive world because of its compact size.
I work mostly under dash, accessory installs. And these m12 fuel drills and drivers are a life saver. Also, if you do use them in automotive, look in to the right angle drill and right angle driver m12 series. You won't be disappointed!
This is a great review!! 👋
Thanks!
Does the chuck collar spin loosely it feels like home depot gave me a defective one the speed is about the same on all of the clutch settings except for highest
That ramp up time does the same thing on other drills
Wow.. I looked away while you were cleaning that blue bit and your other hand was on the trigger👁👄👁.. great video.. got the m12 fuel gen2 combo few days ago.. already made 2 benches using the impact.. can't wait to get deeper into the m12 lineup..
How has the combo kit been holding up ??? Thinking of going to hone depot
Amazing power
I use my m12 surge impact driver to drill holes up to 3/8" in 1/4" steel beams all day. Then I switch to a large dewalt drill to make 1/2" and 5/8"
How does it do in concrete with aggregate?
Para perforar con brocas grandes tienes que perforar primero con una guía más delgada
Good video.
Thanks for the review. I have a full set of Makita 18v and bought this over the Makita sub compact kit because of the metal chuck and the impact driver that came with it has a quick insert chuck. Awesome kit overall, very happy with it! Downsides are the size of the handle takes a while to get used to being a sleeved battery, it's much fatter and the ergonomics of the Makita is just so nice. Also, the Fuel 12v impact driver is much bigger than my Makita 18v impact driver, especially with an XC battery, how is that even compact lol. The battery charging time is also not on par with Makita. I'm not a fan of the ramp up period, I find that it slows down the work flow.
thanks for this comment, may have swayed me to makita
@@dmb3428 You won't regret it. The chuck on the Makita is actually not a downer even if it's not a quick release chuck as you will rarely take off the bit holder anyway.
Hello sir, great video can impact drivers work on concrete also?
No, a hammer drill like this one provides an axial impulse to chip away at concrete while it's drilling. An impact driver only provides a torsional impulse, which won't accomplish the same thing.
Thank you for this excellent video, I am getting this drill but I am new to impact and notice they work great, so, just to make sure, if I want the impact I would need a second drill model or this one does impact for screw work. (probably nerdy question sorry but I got my other drill stolen and lack time for research, thank you :-0). )
Yes, if you want an impact driver the accompanying model to this drill is the 2553-20. This drill is a hammer drill, which means it has a mode that exerts an axial impulse to chip away at masonry or concrete when using a masonry bit. You can drive screws with it, but it doesn't work the same way as an impact driver. An impact driver exerts a torque impulse to assist in driving screws or lag bolts.
@@DoresoomReviews Thank you very, I ordered the 2598-22 KIt, This should be plenty fun, light and effective.
If you have never used an impact driver you will be amazed. With a drill you have to put a lot of force to keep the bit in the screw. The impact just sends it, way less pressure and it just drives it until you stop.
Jimbo Richardson Got the kit, am very impred😊
Other 12 v systems do not stand a chance in hell with the gen 2 Milwaukees
..through pine
AEG are the same company, I’ve owned a 12v AEG for years, love it and use it more than any other tool bar none.
NO PADDLE BIT?
Hi would be nice to see the test with both....
I left out the Gen 1 footage for sake of brevity. It stalls out on both the forstner and the hole saw tests.
Agree, that’s what I was hopping for as well but I guess it’s s review not s comparison.
Been trying to find videos comparisons online and very few comparing gen1 to gen2 right now.
I have the gen 2 drill. I was thinking if getting the m12 screwdriver. Do you think it's worth it or does the drill serve the same purpose with the torque settings? I do light work so impact driver is too powerful for what I need
The screwdriver has clutch settings to limit torque too. In my opinion, the screwdriver is almost completely redundant to the drill. The only situation I can see it being better at is if you're swapping bits a whole bunch, and only use hex shank drill bits. It would be faster than messing with the drill's chuck in that situation.
If you're looking for something to complement the drill, I'd look at the M12 Surge. I use that and my 12V Bosch Flexiclick almost exclusively around the house for home improvement projects.
I was blown away how useful this 2nd gen Fuel setup is....have to have them right along side the M18’s (Or the M18’s along side them?) That good.
Thanks for this review. They have it right now for the same price for the kit, both tools, AND a FREE $149 12v Ratchet tool. Cant pass that up. :)
Awesome do you have a link or the name of the place selling it thanks
Home Depot: homedepot.sjv.io/DV3Wen
Got one yesterday, I like your video. You know what you’re talking about...
Thanks!
The major problem with hummerdrill was ocasional chuck release. DId they fix That?
With the Gen 1, I remember having the same issue you describe a few times. I haven't had it release yet with the Gen 2 so far, but don't know if they made any design changes to specifically address it.
Get you a Rohm chuck for it and you'll have iron grip. Granted they run about $60, but its a big upgrade to this and the M18 2704 drills too
Dizzy where can I buy that chuck I've been looking for one
You can get them on Amazon, they have quite a few threads, you'll need to know which threads your drill has. You can tell from the reviews what fits what. I think the 2704 drills use 1/2" but I cant remember.
Will this drill 5/8c holes through 1/4" steel? I always use 5 to 6 pilot bits
That might be a tough ask for it. I think I'd use an 18V drill for that if you're doing more than 1 or 2.
Great video, I bought one after watch this😁And 2 batteries 6.0 Ah
does this only apply the hammering feature on the hammer setting? im looking to mainly use this as a screw driving tool, can i just have it on a clutch setting and use it as a screwdriver?
Yes, without the hammer setting you can use it as either a regular drill or a clutched driver. While in hammer mode, you can't use the clutch.
@@DoresoomReviews thanks, very helpful.
It is documented on the instruction manual
What is? If you're talking about the ramp up speed changing with clutch settings, I don't see it mentioned anywhere: documents.milwaukeetool.com/58-14-2500d2.pdf
Hello, the second generation machine is manufactured in which country?
China.
is this able to replace an air powered drill when i'm drilling through pinchwelds installing running boards?
I've never used an air drill and don't do much metalwork, sorry. The guys at Workshop Addict pushed this thing pretty hard on metal drilling in their review though.
thanks
so im guessin u prefer the gen 2....i want the gen 2 impact but gonna wait for price to drop
Yeah, it's got more power, and the variable ramp up rate with the electronic clutch is pretty sweet. In fact, I've already used in in a few situations where the old Gen 1 wouldn't fit due to length.
Can I use the drill setting to screw my subcompact only has the drill setting and not the screw?
Yes, if your drill doesn't have screwdriving settings you can still use it to drive screws in drill mode. You'll just have to be a little more careful not to drive the screws in too far.
@@DoresoomReviews Thank you was a bit worried I’m a first year apprentice first power tool I’ve bought and thought I messed up haha
How does it do with 3/8 concrete bits?
I haven't used it with 3/8" masonry bits, but it does great with 1/4". I think it could handle the extra 1/8" diameter pretty well.
I was biting my nails for the entire hole saw scene 😳
😆
Scary stuff
Be careful and keep your fingers out of harms way .
can i adjust the torque for hammer on gen 2 or it's just running on only one mode ?
No, the clutch only limits torque when the drill is in screwdriving mode. I believe that's true for just about all hammer drills though.
Why would anyone ever need to?
Does Milwaukee make a gen 3 12 volt Hammer drill
This is their latest and greatest 12V hammer drill. If you're in the market though, they are announcing all of their new tools for next year on August 20th. My latest video has instructions on how to watch it live.
nice
What’s the difference between m12 fpd and the m12 fdd
The FPD has a hammer drill mode for drilling into masonry and concrete, the FDD doesn't. I'm assuming the "PD" stands for percussion drill, while the "DD" is for drill/driver.
I got the kit for 89 it was 99 original I guess the prices went down
Is the gen2 spec number 2504-20 or 2504-22?
2504 is the base model number for the Gen 2. The -20 means bare tool, while -22 means a two battery kit. That's the notation Milwaukee uses for all their power tools.
Awesome drill same crap clutch
One thing about the gen 2 that I cant stand is the electric clutch. Who fully clamps down on the trigger when tightening a low torque fastener? Isnt the trigger variable speed anyway? When removing screws, I just like to squeeze at full speed to remove. The "start slow" is pretty annoying. When tightening, it slows down then stops when hitting the torque setting. Then if the torque setting is too low, you have to set it higher and start slow then end slow. I like the old mechanical clutch instead. Start fast and hit the torque and hear it click. Not enough, set it higher and spin it fast until the higher torque is reached. I hope gen 3 goes back to the mechanical clutch. The electric clutch actually slows down productivity.
They went back to a mechanical clutch for the M12 Installation Driver, which came out after this one. So maybe they'll go with mechanical again for Gen 3.
2404-20 vs 2504-20 or 2503-20 ?
all look the same to me ?
The 2404 is the Gen 1 M12 FUEL Hammer Drill, while the 2504 is the Gen 2 M12 FUEL Hammer Drill. Those are the two I compared in this video.
The 2503 is the Gen 2 M12 FUEL Drill, which is just like the 2504 except it doesn't have a hammer function for drilling into masonry.
What’s better this or the new makita 18v subcompact?
I haven't used the Makita LXT subcompacts myself, so keep that in mind. The head of the M12 Gen 2 is bigger that that of the Makita subcompact, but they come out to just about the same overall weight due to the smaller 12V batteries. Performance specs are about the same too, although the M12 has 10% higher no load RPM. It mostly comes down to which platform you want to be on.
I just bought this Gen 2 hammer drill with charger and 1 battery for $99.00 from Home Depot.
Great deal!
I think the features associated with their electronic clutch turn me off. I like the collar selector and the constant ramp-up better. I may try to find a Gen1 before they all disappear.
I think you can still grab the one battery Gen 1 kit with Packout case for $99 - which is a great deal.
How does the e clutch work compared to a gen 1 traditional clutch?
They both perform fairly well. It seems like the electronic clutch on the Gen 2 has higher resolution at low torque ranges, and steps up nonlinearly in larger increments for the higher torque settings. I was using the Gen 1 and Gen 2 back to back for the same driving tasks, and with 3/4" #8 wood screws I had the Gen 1 on clutch setting 5 and the Gen 2 on clutch setting 11.
can you do a video(or just respond to me) about the proper way to tighten a drill chuck? different professionals are literally saying different things online. some say tighten all the way till you hear a few tiny ratcheting sounds, but some say after you hear the ratcheting, loosen one full non-ratcheting click. umm what?
I've heard some people back it off one click, but I don't. From the manual: "To close the chuck jaws, turn the sleeve in the clockwise direction. The bit is secure when the chuck makes a ratcheting sound and the sleeve
can not be rotated any further."
@@DoresoomReviewsthanks bro bro.
Gen 1 with hammer at my home depot was only $80 for the full kit today ...that's a no brainer xD
That is an AWESOME deal!
I got it for 64$ :D
even better! with prices like that why buy then next gen
Chris H I bought both the impact and drill with the pack out each for that price. And I also got the gen 2 kit. Gen 2 for me gen 1 for dad. Cause they both rock
Yes they do i've tried both but prefer the gen 1 for my uses, I mainly use the 18v impact but didn't need an 18v hammer drill when I have a 36v Hilti, so the 12v was and is perfect ,wasn't expecting much from it but I am impressed
milwaukee 💗💗💗💗😘😘😘😘
What's the price on the gen2?
$129 bare tool, but you can often find free battery or other combo deals for it.
Can I mount shelves to 1950s block home with this tool? I see it’s $100 at home Dumbpot.
Yes, you'll need a masonry bit to use with it.
@@DoresoomReviews thank you.
The clutch setting on the Gen 2 is terrible! I need it for installing screws and not over tightening them. I returned the gen 2 because of this. With the electronic clutch it limits the speed of installing the screw.
I got both gen 1 H-DRILL AND 2 SPEED IMPACT 4 the price of $99.99 on sale in place of the regular brushed 1's Ace hardware had on sale non hammer drill and Impact.
That's a great deal!
what is better sir?
That seems a little open ended. What are you comparing?
🔥🔥🔥
Which screw / drill bits are compatible with the GEN 1 M12? Also is an adapter necessary or will any drill bit work well ? Thanks !
It's got a 1/2" chuck, so you can use any 1/4" hex shank bits or up to 1/2" diameter round shank drill bits.
Doresoom Reviews thanks and would you recommend a certain set that works the best with this M12? Thanks
I don't really have a favorite. Bosch, Makita, and Milwaukee all make pretty good bits.
Is a gen 3 coming out soon ?
If it is, there should be an announcement at NPS19 next month. I'll be going and posting live updates on Instagram: instagram.com/doresoom/
@@DoresoomReviews nice.. thanks for the quick reply.
Kind of confusing to keep up with all the power tools, seems that they come out with new ones every year.
I'll be looking forward the update.
@@DoresoomReviews subscribed 👍
is that USD price???bcuz that m12 brushless hammer drill with 2 batteries is $150 canadian dollar
www.homedepot.ca/product/milwaukee-tool-m12-fuel-12v-li-ion-1-2-inch-brushless-cordless-hammer-drill-kit-with-4-0-ah-2-0-ah-batteries/1001160144
That's USD price at product launch. I think they've lowered it or added freebies in the meantime.
No, the delayed spin-up in lower clutch settings is maddeningly annoying, and everyone hates it. That's why they nixed it in the Gen3's; went back to mechanical clutch. Thank God. There is no greater admission of this misstep than Milwaukee trying it, and then trashing it. If you want slower speed, do what every human on the planet who has any experience with a drill does: control the trigger. That's what it's for. By forcing slow spin-up, you break that contract of control, and hand-tool-eye coordination. The connection between the user's brain and the workpiece gets messed up. Like watching a movie with the sound out of sync. And that delay adds up when you have real work to do. Don't get me wrong, Milwaukee's drills are great. I have one, but it's a gen3 - not the gen2. They dropped the ball on the gen2. To say that the delay is a "great feature", is either fraudulent (which reviewers tend to do when they get free stuff), or just plain ignorant.
I use my gen1 with a 3/8 inch masonry bit all day, just replace batteries when necessary.
Does it go through concrete okay? @david
can i use the hammer drill as a screwdriver? would that work ? thanks heaps
Yes, just put it in screwdriving mode by setting the clutch to your desired torque level.
Thanks! But then I reckon there is no torque setting in gen 2 is it?
The electronic clutch of the Gen 2 is pretty good at rough torque control, but it's not going to be as accurate as something like a torque wrench.
@@DoresoomReviews appreciate that! I’m in the middle of getting a screwdriver, but everywhere is promoting the combo kit (impact driver and hammer drill), therefore I’m really frustrated if I can use hammer drill as a screwdriver. Thanks so much !
Why do they even bother to make the 2aH batteries....?
Lots of people like the compact form factor of the 2Ah batteries, myself included. I suspect they haven't phased them out for the compact 3Ah because it's cheaper to include the 2Ah in kits, and it gives people an incentive to buy the latest and greatest 3Ah separately.