Jagex is Mismanaging their Content Creators
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- Опубликовано: 22 окт 2024
- I don't like making videos like this, but I think this one in particular needs to be made. I don't understand why these decisions were made, so hopefully something gets done so this does not happen in the future.
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Hey Crystal here! Appreciate the kind words. I stream RS full-time and absolutely love and obsessed with the game. Albeit I’m not really well versed in RS lore, I appreciate how incredible it is and I really enjoyed the new quest and did a proper walk through of it on release.
I saw that! My free time hasn't lined up with when you are usually live, but I usually browse twitch in my downtime so I'm sure I'll stop by at one point or another. Glad to hear you enjoyed the quest! I'm playing through it now and it's pretty nuts lol.
Completely understandable, I’m in the UK so might not align up. But appreciate it and glad to see you’re enjoying the quest too!
Hey, just to point out a couple of things that of course people outside of the creator discord wouldn't know (how could you of course!) - The listed streamers weren't ''chosen''.
A Jmod pinged the entire discord asking anyone who wanted to be in the mention, to let them know and they would be mentioned.
These people were just the ones that asked / responded.
For example if I had replied and said ''Sure ill be live at launch here is my link'' I would have also been on there too. I just didn't stream the quest.
As for the content creator discord, I am certain if you dm a jmod (prob a CM on twitter) you would get an invite :) There isn't a sub requirement or anything. They just need to be aware of the creator and sometimes they just need a nudge to actually get you the invite. (I didn't get an invite until I literally HAD to be in there for golden gnomes). But there are plenty of people in there with 500 subs for example!
Creators mentioned are there purely because they replied to that question from the jmod.
I understand that, to be clear, my primary issue is that the process should probably be a bit more involved than click this button for a free promo. My main criticism is that Jagex should be more involved in who they promo. If a new quest is coming out, I feel like everyone benefits from having people who really care about the lore of the game being showcased by Jagex. I'm not saying that other people shouldn't get the chance, it just seems weird to me that we're showcasing someone who has a policy that they REFUSE to not spacebar quests being featured on the new quest. If the current process can select that person for the new quest, then it has to be adapted. Also, FWIW, I didn't know there was a creator discord until I made this video and creators told me lol.
@@raphtheboygenius as i understand these people were not sponsored in any way, and i commend Jagex for not just picking PR mouthpieces. just gamers :)
Gamers that don't even play rs3 anymore were given a shout out. Super weird & sloppy by Jagex. @@timothybradford4
@@kodsue target audience for this is new players who are not familiar with runescape.
SPEAK FACTS RAPH. I've had both those bums blocked on Twitter forever. A few other big name cc's are also on the chopping block for spreading negativity with their popularity. Need a huge overhaul on who jagex promotes and works with.
It’s generally hard to find any positive players these days. Not only is out current social climate pretty volatile (people don’t know how to be human to other people anymore. For example even just trash talking a recent update can make a few people really sad if they actively worked on it), but the GAMING community as a whole has become so incredibly terrible to the games, devs and each other.
And it’s sad because even if it’s not presented in a toxic manner, a lot of the “good” content creators are just as bad but just don’t outwardly present it. For example that weird dude “TheRSGuy”. The one with the really high pitched voice and inability to sit still. He constantly shames the game but is forced to put on a smile because his only skill set is RuneScape 3 and he can’t make a living otherwise. Recently someone found a revolution bar for P4 Telos that basically does the phase for you. And he’s saying stuff like “this is a real game we play guys.” ‘and “there’s no challenge left in this game”. Dudes talking about a 10 year old boss and there are quite a few really difficult challenges in this game regardless of ONE phase of a decade old boss being able to utilize revolution.
Then you have emotionally unstable people who leave the game because of an optional cosmetic hero pass. Or because they’ve played the game for 20 years and have no content and then think Jagex not releasing a new update every week is akin to ‘no content’. (It’s not, most games have a LOT less content overall and being released).
It’s not a Jagex problem or a RuneScape problem. It’s a reflection of how we are as a society lol. Every gaming community fucking sucks these days. Every fandom sucks. Everything sucks lmao.
We love stormy, Crystal is very nice, but yeah - i would be a liar if i said it didn't bother me to see this beautiful quest space barred. also thx for the shout out bro. i'm glad the quest still had rlly positive reception overall.
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@@ChevalricRS what raph said about you is spot on lmao
Edit: Chev, wasn't trying to hurt your feelings, bro. Sorry
Thanks :)
@@ChevalricRS nothing personal, just to clarify xd
nothing personal just had to shit on the guy xd xd xd
good on you for calling this out
I actually know Prideslayer. He got me to come over to RS3 from osrs and hes always doing things to help new players in the community. Its clear he would have been a better choice.
Thanks for bringing attention to this. RS3 content space could really use a J1mmy, his OSRS videos are insane.
Seems like they were picked cause the play test Necro at the time, so Jagex knew them. Should have double-checked the content now though
Hi :) I’m sure you know this already, Stormy read out the entire quest dialogue on the stream including the lore books, he just didn’t post his vod. He also has almost completed the entire game as a true trimmer with only clue logs left. With this quest being the biggest update of the year so far and future content updates looking dire, he had no choice but to start playing osrs because rs3 wasn’t fun anymore. Stormy is still passionate about rs3 and if a clue update or new content comes out he would be back in a heartbeat. He also reads the rs3 patch notes on stream almost every Monday night if he is able to :)
I've actually been talking to stormy for a bit about this, I appreciate you commenting. To be clear, the ONLY issue I have is that based on his current content, it seems weird for him to be a featured creator. I have no issues with him, and I think he's a really nice guy. After talking to him he was super understanding and relatively sympathetic to my position. I appreciate the comment and I have no ill will towards stormy. I'm sure we'll be in touch moving forward as well.
A lot of the rs3 creators bait the negativity, because it gets more views I think. And feeds a giant problem rs3 has been having in general
Hi Raph, I also make lore content for the game and am active, getting out about a video a month (sometimes more sometimes less). I unfortunately don’t stream and also don’t have a big following but there are many passionate lore hounds out here in the community. I don’t focus on new content, I like to tell stories of old but I do have a playlist showcasing in depth lore on various slayer creatures in Runescape and I am currently doing a series on the entire lore of morytania. I try to involve other creators and members of the community by helping me voice dialogue from in game text as well which is really fun. I hope that going forward, with such a small content creator sphere we can come together to support and lift one another up and continue to build positive impacts for our game :)
It's straightup laziness on jagex's part. No due diligence and effort from their end. Plain and simple
I agree no hate to the actual content creators. But the strangest thing is Mod Stu in prideslayers interview was that the quest was made with him in mind!! He clearly streamed it all very carefully like a lore hound, why was this person with infinite passion with something sort of made for him not a featured creator?
I think it is common knowledge but Jagex as a company is bad about endorsing their creators. Mod's individually have to go out of their way to interact which is just bizzare that it isnt pushed by the company itself. I would make the maker space so good
I completely forgot about Chev, i seen a few of his videos and he just comes off as an edgelord lol. clickbait titles aside, he likes to "go against the grain" and it just comes off as edgy and pretentious. Jagex wanted to sponsor him for strictly PR reasons is crazy
I usually like to see myself as more a semi-lorehound that cares about lore but do not have the memory capacity to know every detail. I do not spacebar quests but I have a memory of a goldfish where I probably forgot a lot of the quests I've done years ago.
But one thing I can never forget is my hate towards Zamorakians. Spacebarring quests still hurts my soul though >.<
But yeah I do agree that Lorehounds are the best for quest streams.
Some content creators like you mentioned comes to mind, Prideslayer!
If someone wants to spacebar quests, that's okay though. I see where you're coming from that a spacebarer doesn't look good for a new quest. Seems like after reading the comments, the issue lies in how to get featured on the Newspost from Jagex's side.
This is what happens when you pour your heart and soul into a game for years only to have the devs throw it back in your face, I sympathise massively with stormy, he’s completed every single aspect of this game and wants more than anyone else for it to succeed but everyone has a line.
As Chevalric said, Jagex did ask the content creator discord specifically about this quest. So you can't blame the creators for replying and wanting to be mentioned. Ofcourse, this isn't a great criteria but if other content creators wanted to be featured, they could've also replied.
Prideslayer should have been picked. He is very passionate and into the lore of Runescape.
Thank You! Thank you so much for this point you made!
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NGL I didn’t think I was going to like this video based on the title. Everyone has been so negative lately, but you make some strong points sir.
I really try to be positive about the game. If you watch my streams, I'm pretty much always defending Jagex and telling people to stop freaking out over the future of the game. At least once a stream, it will come up that there's no content or that rs3 is mtxscape or some other complaint (used to be about hero pass, but that's over). It's very rare that I criticize Jagex at all. In recent memory, my main criticisms of Jagex are that they don't encourage us to do quests, so most people spacebar through them (which I would argue is bad since our quest system is the best out of any MMO) and that release Lord of Bones was comically weak. Even when Hero Pass stuff was going on, I said that with the content buffs, it was pretty egregious, but after they took those out, it was fine. I would argue that fixed Hero Pass would have been a very good addition to the game as I found it to be way more enjoyable than Yak Track.
Some of Chevalric’s videos have clickbait titles that make them appear negative but turn out to be naming a view he’s going to argue against.
isn't that worse since he's farming outrage for a game he supposedly enjoys?
@@raphtheboygenius Oh yeah, I’m definitely not trying to defend him. Just thought I’d mention it, since it’s something else that bothers me about some of his videos.
@@iamimbisilebut if your not trying to defend him they why mention it at all lmao.
@@Ungulate1 It’s called clarification. Perhaps you’ve head of it. The video was incorrect at one point, so I offered clarification. The fact that someone’s criticism about someone else is incorrect in some way doesn’t mean the latter can be excused.
@@Ungulate1Because ignorance is to be challenged, and nuance has innate value.
From what RSGuy said Prideslayer was supposed to be on the advertised list of streamers and someone at Jagex dropped the ball. RSGuy raided Prideslayer and I watched him do the quest. It was interesting to see him enjoy the quest, however during the time I watched he did kind of say that he is uninterested in much of the game and doesn't engage in much of the content, certainly nowhere to the extent that Stormy has. His knowledge of lore made him a good choice for Jagex to advertise.
I don't know if Stormy streamed the new quest or not because I didn't tune in. I have watched as he almost completed RS3 and then got bored of doing thousands of clue scrolls to try and finish those logs.
CompleteRS hasn't really uploaded in 5 years, so I don't know why you would even suggest him. I have no clue if he even plays anymore, so he could hardly have been chosen as someone to watch.
The point wasn't "let's showcase CompleteRS," it's "if we're doing a launch event around the new lore thing, shouldn't people who care about lore be involved?" I looked up runescape 3 lore and showed the first 3 channels that talked about. That took literally 5 seconds and if Jagex would do 5 more seconds of research they would've seen that Prideslayer is the only one of the first three lore guys that streams.
Also, it is worth considering that if Prideslayer was under the impression he would be featured and sees that in the morning, he would feel super disenfranchised by the company. So, I can totally understand in the moment negativity or an aloofness for a company that may have communicated with him that he was gonna be their guy and then just... didn't do the thing.
i dont interact with skills or clues but i am VERY much interested in the game my friend :D
i can also troll so that might have been a miscommunication friend
@@prideslayer77so that’s on you. "Trolling" serves no purpose and only creates a false perception of you and what you say. Things like this are exactly why this community is so bad.
Jagex has always been like this with content creators as far back as I can remember. Shauny helped a bit but then he left and it went back to this lawlz
It's favourtism the whole content creator discord is a sucking up contest
Chevalric got picked because he visited Jagex and is friends with all community managers
Stormy shouldn't have been picked he provides nothing.
You mustn't have kissed up enough or got on those knees like everyone else. Your videos have helped me more than any of these people
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Damn son! Get um! Let the dog out!
Hahah Raph throwing hooks for breakfast
It's sad that lots of rs3 creators took the path of making hate video's about rs3, milking views, i feel you so much! they should have picked newer streamers and gave them a chance to maybe grow bigger. They choose someone that hates the game is hilarious to me.
TBH. It's slim pickings for Rs3 content creators these days. Would be even worse if they excluded any creators that had anything negative to say about the game. Really show's how bad a state the game is in currently.
dont worry just stay and you will be the #1 rs3 streamer when the remainders go to osrs
Its like Jagex rewarding you sack of Coals , instead of Rune Ores.... Doing it again and again 🚂
As with all things, I guarantee it's about who you know and not what you do. These people have had previous connections with JMods and leveraged that to get promoted more.
I remember back when Shauny was CM he'd go out of his way to engage with content creators on all platforms, since he's left I've seen none do this save for Sponge popping into your stream once. They need to start engaging with the community more to avoid these brain dead decisions they've been rolling out lately.
couldn't have said it better myself
Hi Raph, make a Reaper Crew easy to hard video or playlist. Cool beans and thank you.
I think Jagex is desperate to bring people to rs3, and they currently feel like getting new players is a fools errand so they are trying to get disgruntled former players and osrs players to come back to rs3. Hence the reason they have the negative and osrs creators showcased
As someone who doesn't care a ton about the lore, seeing a recent prideslayer vid where he interviewed a mod and talked about the lore is the first time I felt more invested and that's absolutely someone they should be platforming.
I also like how you put it, these guys are completely entitled to make whatever content they want - the problem is jagex's poor selection and engagement with the cc scene.
And finally you mentioned caring a lot about the scene. This sucks to say but I'd genuinely advise you to try not to do that. It's 2024 and if Jagex is still this poor in understanding its cc scene for rs3 then you're most likely going to end up increasingly frustrated when at best they're gonna make incremental improvements. Applaud you for making the effort though.
Alright, time to write a paragraph.
1. Everyone who was part of the content creator discord was asked if they had any plans for the release of the quest and if they wanted to be mentioned in the news post. Only 4 people replied apparently, but that is why they chose me, stormy, moonfairy and crystal. Is this the best way to showcase all the creators covering this? probably not, but that is how they chose to do it.
2. Yes my titles are negative, big shocker they do better when they are that way. I have experimented with my titles for over a year before this and found that I get 2x the amount of views / Clickthrough rate whenever the titles are like that; there are even studies done on the matter if you are interested in understanding more. If you actually watched the videos, you see that my opinions are very nuanced on most of those topics and quite frankly, i get called out for sucking Jagex off more than being called out for hating them LOL
3. I spacebar through the quest because I am visually impaired and can't physically read the dialogue easily, something I mentioned EVERY TIME I do this and even if you spacebar through quests in runescape, you can still see what is going on on screen; zamorakian warriors = zamorak involvement, guthixian shrine = guthix, you get the point.
4. Yes I only stream new updates now, due to personal reason I couldn't stream every single day anymore like I did for years before this; I even checked with Jagex if it is okay for me to be mentioned when I stream less, as I understand that putting someone up there who doesn't stream much VS others might seem unfair to them.
If you ever want to have a further conversation about this, feel free to add me on Discord: "Chevalric", as I am willing to answer any questions you might have; as I see you care for the game, but going after individuals like this without proper context is a bit of an L.
hey remember a few months ago you dmed me to do some lore stuff w you on stream? and i said definitely?
i am just being real. i would've read everything single of text to you sir if you wanted. how bad did you truly want to enjoy this content? The first real content drop this year aside from combat? i dont want money or clout at all from you id have done it free and not strreamed it to make yours better chev.
and btw i dont hate you or anything Chev but tbh this has actually been a big issue in the community. i thought about not voicing any of this and staying out of it bc im not tryna have shit w stormy hes like a good close friend and does love the lore and been quite the mentor, but Raph isn't really speaking on that. he's speaking on the fact this update really needed positivity and appreciation.
post is public, your opinion is public, our opinion is public its disrespectful? lol dont dm me anymore not interested in your two face bullshit. dont ask me to do something im eager to do and then say you wouldnt expect it. this is hilariously different from your tone in my dms on twitter rn.
If it's well-known that you spacebar through every quest, why are you one of the three premier creators on a quest... Why would you even want Jagex to put a spotlight on you spacebarring through a quest...
Also, I don't believe I attacked your character in any way. My points were pretty concise, 1) you spacebarred the quest and 2) you don't like the game. If you want to argue that you do actually like the game, that's completely fine, but why are you farming outrage on a game that you like? Don't you know that farming outrage is good for you, bad for the environment? I'd argue that if you do like the game, your titles and thumbnails are even more egregious. I didn't say anything about your character. I said, "why did they pick this guy?"
@@ChevalricRSexcuse after excuse quit the game. Ralph’s analysis was spot on of you. Pride slayer raph and many others are a much better representation of the rs streamer community
If ur not in the rs3 content creator discord sucking up to everyone u dont get anything. I mean i was not invited to runefest. And i was nominated for best rs3 content creator last time and was nominated for 2 gnomes before and won 1. If ur not in the circle jerk ur on your own.
On the flip side tho they do let smaller creators take a shot at things.and ur gonna get this problem when rs3 dont have alot of creators left
Without saying anything negative about anyone mentioned in the video, I am subscribed to at least one and watch one of the others, I would say that each content creator has their own style and flavor. I watch some creators for their opinions, some for humor, IMSIKOVIT for his quest guides(by far the guy to strive to imitate) and some out of loyalty even though they may be getting toxic. I think Jagex, and most companies, know exactly what they are doing when they make questionable social media choices. Confusing or negative company posts generate a ton of free press from creators and can stir viewers to engage when they might have been disengaging. My favorite RS3 videos(almost everyone I watch is guilty) are the "there is no new content" and "OMG, MTX is ruining the game", absolutely trashy, whiny content followed by "oh look, a new blah, blah, blah" followed by "new content sucks" and "Jagex doesn't listen". You guys are the best, keep up the soap opera!!
Look man, I think you're misrepresenting what actually happened. It was an open call to anyone who is in the discord, even me someone who is only playing OSRS right now and has since Necromancy. The four in the news post responded which is why they were there. I'm not privy to the actual discussion, but as I understand Prideslayer was supposed to be in the news post but wasn't due to an error, likely due to the fact that he joined the discord right before the quest dropped. Shit happens. All the creators want to have more people in the discord who are creating RS3 content, who knows someone may have even suggested you shortly.
The RS3 creator scene is kind of dead, RSGuy as you mentioned is really pushing the envelope of the category but that's about it. RSGuy is also way too nice to want to take one of those spots on the newspost and would rather other people get exposure, partly due to how he is secure as the #1 streamer in the category but also because he is a genuinely good guy who wants to bring the category up with him. RSGuy even raided Prideslayer which was a great thing to do.
When a piece of PvM content comes out, we don't have a DPM requirement to be in the newspost, they put everybody who want to be in there. There is no selection process, its a FFA. Its only notable because the scene is so dead right now, so there was only 4 people and a couple of those people are barely playing the game
The callout on Chev went a little too far, especially because all of 13 days ago you used a negative title for engagement farming. You remind me a lot of myself back in 2020, right down to the thumbnails and talking about the creator scene. I'd be willing to help if you want some advice lots of really simple things you can do that will help get views. I struggled early on "selling" myself for views, but what I learnt was that regardless of the money the main reason you make videos is to help people and by getting more eyes on your videos you're helping more people
To be clear, my issue is not that these creators suck, it is that some of the creators they selected don't seem like the great picks. I'm not in the creator discord, I didn't even know there is one. Consequently, I wasn't aware that the way to get featured was to say you wanted a feature. My issue is that the selection process probably needs some work if one of the people they selected to showcase a quest has a known "policy" of spacebarring quests. That's my only professional issue with Chev. I don't like his content, but it's not for people like me, so that's fine. If you want to have a semantic discussion about general engagement farming vs. outrage farming, I'm happy to have that, but I'd like to think I do engagement farming while Chev has a lot of content that is outrage farming. If you want to discuss this point further, you can DM me on discord and we can chat. Stormy is a super good guy, was incredibly cordial when we chatted (and we ultimately ended up on the same page). I don't agree that RS3 content creation is dead, but I do think that we're really struggling. It's easy to farm outrage, so that's what most people are doing. Creators need to make content that's more than just "here's how much progress I made on this thing" and guides. However, it feels like this was a big missed opportunity to showcase some of the cool lore guys we have in the community. I think I addressed everything, if you feel like I didn't adequately respond to a point you made, let me know.
Even with a multitude of lore creators, it seems you overlooked the fact that Jagex will only feature individuals who are in the Content Creator discord on their homepage. The issue at hand is that Jagex selects who gets/doesn't get in that discord without a proper application process, and that's what needs to be talked about, this is not a creator problem at all, this video is just pointless.
This video VERY clearly talks about I'm not sure why these creators were chosen, making it a Jagex problem. I'm not even in the creator discord, I didn't know one existed until today. Whatever process they use clearly needs to be updated/expanded if one of the people they picked for the quest has a policy that he space bars quests.
@@raphtheboygeniusIt's understandable that the majority of creators don´t know about the existence of that discord. It´s also meaningful to have a space for jagex and their creators to collaborate on stuff.
However the entire process of getting in that discord feels extremely convoluted when it could literally be simplified through something like an application form with minimal requirements and some terms of agreement rather then "we pick and choose who goes in and who does not".
Not only would it attract more people to create content but it would also expand the pool of creators to pick from for future quest releases.
Chevalric mentioned below only four of them responded to their recent request which kinda showcases the need for a larger pool of creators to pick from, which simply doesn´t exist now.
@@beausz We've been asking for them to have an application process since I joined the Discord back near the end of 2020. Right now there is a lot of red tape to get through to get people in there. I spent like 6-months recommending Nuzz Nuzz to get in.
@@WaswereRS Yeah I would continue to prioritize/rally for a collective effort towards implementing a system like that, rather than creators clashing against eachother over something they lack control over themselves. 👍
Raph, I accept your arguments about questionable choices but hear me out, man: you are a creator yoruself and this video makes you look salty more than anything else and I am commenting this becuase I actually like you. I made my Zuk capes thanks to you and now I am planning doing AoD watching your stuff. So, yeah.... Careful what you put out.
lol yeah that guy chevalric always bitching lmao low key i realized that but thats funny you pointed that out! in fact i commented on his video you complain about everything or something
Looks like Chevelric responded, but to give a 3rd party take, he already has a working relationship with Jagex. Was one of the creator's who got to try necromancy pre-release. This alone is enough to prime him as a target for this kind of thing.
He goes on to express that the spacebar is something due to an impairment, which I was going to mention, but refer to his comment.
His content isn't for me, but if i recall the negative titles are often more for "clickbait" thsn actually the thesis of the video. The fee ive seen have pointed out some negatives, but also had a positive spin on them. Cant confirm if thats still the case, but ive never been a fan of clickbait titles so...
As far as Stormy, I cant say anything. You could be spot on or s mile off snd id have no clue. I just came to add context about Chivelric, but saw he already had so i wanted to just confirm some of it.
Also Prideslayer ahoupd have been promoted for sure.
Chevalric was a prime choice??? Lmao be real
@@dustynbraden8646 I didn't say that. I'm adding missing context. I think their promotion vetting should probably be more robust. I can at least understand why they were chosen is what I'm saying.
I cant say whether Chevalric did a good or bad job, I didn't watch. Did you? If not then neither of us can say much. If you did then that judgment is your own.
In his video on the quest he says right in the beginning that he refuses to read it so he's spacebarring through the whole thing. That is 100% okay to do, even more so if there is a reason behind it besides "I want the reward so skip all the cutscenes," but I'm just not convinced that's a good candidate for showcasing the new quest.
@@raphtheboygenius I don't disagree with that at all. In the other reply I was saying their endorsement should probably have more robust vetting. I just got the impression from your video that you were missing context.
@@jlayman89 I did watch both perspectives of the quest. There is chevalrics bs one and then there was Prideslayers 2 hour journey and breakdown LIVE. Not to mention Mod Stu stating on his podcast that the quest was made with Prideslayer in mind. Chevalric & CO. were simply chosen because they were the ones who responded in the creator discord channel. Why would someone opt in to showcase and not care at all about the content they are showcasing.
helo can u link zuk guide pleaes
Damn, what a complete misrepresentation of Chevalric.
So his videos are either negative or outrage farming. If they are just outrage farming, then I'll take the L on the representation of his position, but you do realize that outrage farming is worse than just being negative about a game, right? Cultivating an audience that doesn't like something just so you can say "hey it's actually not that bad" builds short-term growth at the cost of the game you are playing. Either way, it's a bad look.
@@raphtheboygenius There's a difference between a clickbait thumbnail and deliberately making a negative video on a subject to farm views.
This video is closer to outrage farming than Chev's content is.
@@Kathaareveryone has some special term or way of reordering the perspective in order to fit their narrative.
@@TheSCPStudio Sounds like another way of saying "only interpretations I agree with are correct."
Just like init yeah. Alwsys negative stuff
Chevalric uses clickbait is he not that negative and he does play he just quit streaming.
Outrage farming is worse than actively being negative about a game. You give yourself short-term growth at the cost of the thing you are farming the outrage from. This does not seem like someone I would want to promote if it were my game, but that's just me!
@@raphtheboygenius yea but he is not negative about the game. Watch some of his vids the titles are misleading.
The callout on Chev is spot on , but I'm not surprised since he sees that dude waydott as his mentor. The dude is insufferable.
No the callout on chev is not "spot on". This whole video is delusional, and is the very "outrage farming" that raph claims to be so against.
I literally argue with chev all the time because of how much he loves runescape 3 and disagrees with me because i think it's in a bad place.
How you came to the conclusion that i act as chevs mentor is some next level mental gymnastics you came up with in order to channel some insecurity you hold about runescape 3 not doing so well atm. Go outside.
I'm not outrage farming. My goal isn't to increase my share of the RS3 community space, my goal is to point out a clear issue with how content creators are selected. My video about why quests suck talks about how quests DO suck for the majority of players. If I didn't believe that or if I used the title to say "well actually" then I'd agree with you, but I don't do that. If the way that I can get featured on the main channel is liking Jagex's status for a "truth is", that seems... not correct. Even if a new process came out and it still picked the exact same creators, the current process obviously needs improvements.
@@raphtheboygenius I can agree the current process needs work.
However this video specifically calling out other creators when you clearly aren't very tuned into the creator scene is super out of pocket.
Your suggesting people who haven't made content in 5 years, suggesting that chev doesn't fight tooth and nail for jagex even when the majority of the playerbase disagrees, suggesting that stormy doesn't have 40k hours in the game and clearly deserves a spot in this,
and most of all doing it without the context of them being in the cc discord and it just being a signup message of which only 4 people opted in to. (which by the way i wonder why, it's almost like people aren't interested in showcasing content for RS3 because since Vorkaths release there has basically been no updates.)
This video is in bad taste and its blatant outrage farming I don't see how you can argue it's anything else. Anyway, that's my thoughts on it.
@Waydots here is is . The dude who cant handle criticism and blocks everyone on Twitter.
And again.. for a dude who left rs3 you can't stay way from it 😅
I literally said in the video "2 of the 3 people I mentioned don't even stream, but Pride does so why wasn't he featured?" I really don't know how much clearer I could've been that maybe Jagex should proactively seek out lore guys for the lore thing. I also said that the depth of my research on the lore creators was googling "Runescape 3 lore." Shouldn't Jagex be doing at least that when deciding who is going to showcase their new lore event?
It doesn't matter that Chevalric is pro-Jagex. He has a policy where he refuses to not spacebar quests. Jagex should have some way of saying "maybe not you for this event." Stormy is not currently playing RS3 on stream. He afks off-stream or to the side, but he doesn't play it on stream. His current streaming content is based around Old School. At this point in time, I think it's fair to say Stormy is currently an Old School creator. The process that selects people should probably care whether or not people are actively playing. Stormy and I chatted and we're on good terms, he understands where I'm coming from.
In case it's not clear, my professional issue is not with their content, it is that the selection process should be a little bit more involved than "like my status for a feature." That process is bad, period. A company that is trying to promote creators SHOULD promote creators that are good matches for the content. While you could argue that Stormy is a good fit given his time with the game, a big part of being a good fit for the content should be actively making content around the game.
I understand that you're butthurt about Runescape 3 and that you want to see it burn, but that doesn't mean you need to misrepresent what was in my video. The title is literally Jagex is Mismanaging Content Creators. I don't know how you can read that title, watch the video, and then think that I think the responsibility for this problem is on anyone besides Jagex.
Jagex is mismanaging RS3. Not content creators.
Delete this video.