Masters of Taiwan ep5 - Six Harmony Mantis & Taoist Folk Religion
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- Опубликовано: 6 сен 2024
- In this episode, John takes me to meet Professor Zhuang Rong Ren at the Chinese Culture University to learn about Six Harmony Mantis, or Liuhe Tanglang Quan. After that I head back to the city and meet Ghys, to talks about some different deities in Taiwanese folk Taoism.
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Let me know if you are coming to the USA; I'll take you to see the "real" praying mantis kung fu.
Thank you for a great video! Six harmony praying mantis grandmaster Zhang Xiang San and eight step praying mantis grandmaster Wei Xiao Tang were very good friends during their years in Taiwan. In Taiwan their burial sites were next to each other.
It has some similarities to Xingyiquan.
In the application you can see it but the forms of LiuHe Tang Lang dont look like Tang Lang. I think if someone knows TL but not LiuHe TL and he see just the form, he wouldnt recognize that its TL.
The LiuHe TangLang was really interesting! Great that you focused on applications in your video 👍🏻
The Ba bu Tanglang master (Master Chang) was very impressive.
Liuhe Tanglang probably has good ones too.
this guy's patio is epic
Great episode, particularly the part about folk religion in Taiwan. The noticeable prevalence of folk taoism in Taiwan really surprised me when I went. 100% would watch more of Ghys sharing his knowledge on this topic
Check out his channel, he has some good stuff on there
@@MonkeyStealsPeach is there a link? Cant find one
@@johncasarino5627 wushu quest, tagged in the title
Another great video, but I do wish the section about Liuhe Tanglang was a little longer.
Very nice. Looks a little like xingyiquan, but the power generation is different.
My first thought was, this looks exactly like the Shanxi Xingyi I learned, ESPECIALLY the power generation 😅
That Liuhe Tanglang Quan interview was slammin!
Those circular palms coming in chopping continuously looks absolutely SPECIAL! I wonder if it can be used for attacking like the Wing Chun chain punching... Right-hand side, continuous left and right hacking knife-hand chopping strikes to the neck/Aorta.
I saw a lot of double-palm pushes in this handset, that looked good...
I'm a fan...
I'm a fan!
Anyway, that Liuhe Tanglang interview needs to be longer!
Another stellar video by Monkey Steals Peach!
Thanks for posting this video, doing the interview, and SHARING!
Monkey Steals Peach,
MUCH RESPECT!!!
yes fellow WC see that too the Prof is cool a kind man who is also a deadly mantis
Many thanks :) In addition to Kung Fu, I am also a practicing Druid and found the Taoist stuff very interesting indeed! I think that Druidry and Taoism have much common :)
Interesting, basically Xinyi/Xingyi with mantis hands.
wow
Hope you can share some vintage clip of Han Chin Tang
in practice next.
The Chinese/Taiwan Kung Fu is so beautiful to watch! It's also very effective!
Fascinating.
謝謝分享，不知道這次的台灣武術訪問專題會不會也訪問到季氏八極拳呢？
不好意思，这次没有
@@MonkeyStealsPeach 有點可惜，不過還是很期待你的影片。超棒！
@@akadj4658 師兄不要介意！當時我們有要求季老師的採訪，可是剛好Will來的那段時間季老師去歐洲玩了。下次！
季老师也在wushu quest频道上，你可以看看
@@wushuquestofficial 不會介意啦，只是想說如果有的話，感覺也很棒。
The Shrine statues segment was very interesting. I had no idea about the hole in the back that gets sealed up. What you described though Will is still very much alive within traditional Lion Dance culture in the martial communities. I cannot speak for the lion dance culture that does it for sport and competition, but the traditional ones would dot the eyes with rooster blood and other ingredients before a lion head had danced it's first dance. There's a whole ceremony to "bring the lion spirit from the other world" into the new lion head.
Interesting about the shamanism - how to write "titong?" in Chinese?
乩童
Quite a family that friend of yours has! Biting are a very strange thing in Taiwan, coming in all shapes and sizes, from the abstruse to the unbelievable! A field of research all by its own!
Jitong
three bananas and one bottle of wine for the deity... Guan Yu's eyes are welling up. But since the FiL is a ji-tong, I guess that makes it all all right.
Bro if you're still in taiwan try to meet with Wang Huai Hsiang! It would be a really cool video because his dad was a mantis grandmaster and his nei jin is epic!
At long last, I get a small sample of what Liu He Tanglang or 6 Harmonies Praying Mantis of the Taiwanese Zhang Xiang San Lineage looks like
, earlier this year I’d contacted Will through Jon Nicklin, whose Traditional Internal Chinese Martial Arts Blog in English is probably the best Blog online dedicated to the subject-I had wanted to know if there were any competent teachers of 6 Harmonies Praying Mantis on the East Coast near me or even anywhere in the USA: After not hearing back from Will, I did some of my own research, and as it turns out there seems to be only a handful of competent 6 Harmonies Praying Mantis teachers teaching this Art either here in USA or in Europe.
In Fact, I didn’t find anybody on East Coast, but I did learn that Boris Shih, an indoor Student of Master Zhang Xiang San, taught “Liu He Tanglang” to a handful of Students in California’s Silicone Valley for several years, but stopped teaching and he seems to have disappeared. In Addition, someone mentioned the name Jake Burroughs, and Jason Tsou a well known traditional Taiwanese Chinese Martial Artist in the Los Angeles area, and former student of Adam Hsu is said to be capable of teaching 6 Harmonies Praying Mantis, but Master Jason Tsou concentrates on other styles such as Bajiquan or Muslim Long Fist much More:
On the other hand, on the East Coast of USA, Master Wang Rengang teaches both Hao Family Taiji Plum Blossom Praying Mantis( he is a Hao family lineage holder)in addition to Yiquan-and to a lesser extent Master Rengang teaches Taiji Quan and Baguazhang too: Master Rengang teaches in Queens NY, which has a very large Chinese Asian immigrant population-probably largest in US.
Master Guo Shun Yu, who I met once in NYC’s Chinatown, is primarily a Master of the Chen Style Taiji, and holds Chen Taiji Lineage under the famous Master Ma Hong, but Guo Shun Yu also teaches Taiji Praying Mantis( but it’s not the Taiji-Plum blossom Hybrid style).
So again Will, thanks for posting this clip with Professor Zhuang in Taiwan, as I really enjoyed watching his soft and understated performance so characteristic of this style and other “Internal” styles:
The best clip of Liu He Tanglang that I’ve come across, however is by Master Zhang Dao Jin but not sure if Master Dao Jin is from Taiwan or from Mainland China:
ruclips.net/video/LPslLB2VvYM/видео.html
When it comes to other Substyles of Mantis, such as Plumb blossom or Taiji Praying Mantis one major difference is that Plum Blossom relies more on a Flurry of rapid Punches whereas Taiji Praying Mantis specialises more on single penetrating strikes that would send a deep shockwave through an opponent, similar to the Jins found in Xing Yi Quan: It surely depends on the practitioner, but Taiji Praying Mantis as practiced by some is very much an internal style with strikes and circular throws similar to Baguazhang: and unlike the mediocre skills of the majority of “So Called” Martial Artists” here is a clip of a Taiji Praying Mantis Master with real skills profound and internal:
ruclips.net/video/BRr0wt8TH04/видео.html
Next here is NYC’s Guo Shun Yu demonstrating the Beng Bu form which I understand is a core form shared in common by many Sub styles of Praying Mantis
ruclips.net/video/QXzha4nOxeg/видео.html
And Here is Wang Rengang from Queens demonstrating a Hao family taiji Plum-blossom form:
ruclips.net/video/SwK5faUljfw/видео.html
And to conclude here is a Double Handed Praying mantis Sword form performed by a practitioner probably from Taiwan, were six harmonies praying Mantis seems to be relatively popular: but this Sword form might belong to Taiji or to Plum Blossom Praying Mantis:
ruclips.net/video/Idchwx2q0L0/видео.html
Sorry, I don’t recall receiving any messages asking about Six Harmony Mantis in the East Coast US. That Bengbu clip you posted is not really Bengbu, its a mix of different things and the movements have been altered for performance.
@@MonkeyStealsPeach Interestingly, when I showed Jon, who is more familiar with Taiji Ch’uan than Mantis, a clip Of Master Guo Shun You doing Chen Style Taiji, Jon replied and said something similar, that there seemed to be something unusual about Guo Shun You’s Form, one possible explanation could be that some Chinese Masters never do the same form twice but instead improvise on the spot, like a Jazz Musician, but I never studied any Mantis, and you obviously have much experience and knowledge of Mantis style, and I personally never studied Mantis-On other hand, the other Mantis Clip with Wang Rengang from Queens NY, shows that Master Rengang is probably one of the most competent Taiji Praying Mantis practitioners in USA. Master Wang Rengang is also, I understand, a Kung Fu Brother of Master Li Tailiang, who is based in the New York: Li Tailiang, who is considered by some to be one of the most talented Traditional Chinese Martial Artists teaching in USA: and it seems that Masters Rengang and Liang have exchanged techniques and learnt from each other: Li Tailiang, as I understand, holds lineages in Dai family Xinyi; in Che Style Xingyiquan, and in the Cheng style Baguazhang: the system that Li Tailiang teaches is a synthesis of these three styles:
Here is a good clip of Li Tailiang in action:
ruclips.net/video/Rd16F4Ta_jk/видео.html
Hi Isaac where in the East coast are you located? I am in Boston and I teach Liu He Tang Lang from Zhang Xiang San - Dai Shi Zhe lineage.
This is all well and good in theory but i would to see them redevelop the martial art after testing it against western fighting
Reminds me of Hsing I
I wonder if there is any connection
There is no actual historical connection, no. What looks very Xingyi-ish in here is the Tongbeiquan aspect, since the founder of Liuhe Tanglang had learned Tongbei in Cangzhou. It’s very evident.
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Wah Lum ?
In my opinion too short video about LiuHe tang lang quan,i mean aplication or other rules etc.
Unfortunately that’s all he wanted to show
Very linear the forms. Not very complicated.
Я бы его с двоечки уложил))))